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Ep 218 | Is the Global Cabal a Conspiracy Theory? | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Ep 218 | Is the Global Cabal a Conspiracy Theory? | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Ep 218 | Is the Global Cabal a Conspiracy Theory? | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Ep 218 | Is the Global Cabal a Conspiracy Theory? | The Glenn Beck Podcast

Saturday, 27th April 2024
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And now a Blaze Media Podcast.

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Today's guest, I have I've

0:06

seen him speak. He's

0:09

incredible as a speaker. I have

0:12

read his articles and he gets it.

0:14

He gets it. And and I think

0:16

this is what he gets. We're

0:20

all living in the Wizard of Oz. That's that's

0:23

what's happening. Globalist leaders are

0:25

the wizard hiding behind the curtain,

0:27

pulling all the strings. The

0:29

deep state politicians are the wicked witch

0:31

of the east, employing all kinds of

0:34

bureaucratic flying monkeys to come after us.

0:36

I know this sounds crazy, but oh,

0:39

I'll get you, my pretty. You

0:41

and I were Dorothy, hoping that we're

0:43

going to wake up in Kansas and realize it was

0:45

all a dream. Right now,

0:47

we're in the part of the movie

0:50

where we're about to realize that

0:52

the wizard is really actually a phony

0:54

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0:57

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1:00

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1:03

else the flying monkeys eat us, I think it

1:05

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1:08

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1:10

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1:13

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1:15

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1:17

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1:19

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1:22

Who's behind our spiral into

1:25

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1:27

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1:30

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1:32

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1:35

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1:37

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1:40

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1:42

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Thank you so much for being part of

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as my family is you know we were

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we were just talking. Before

5:02

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5:04

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5:06

open answer away. It

5:10

changes everything and you begin

5:12

to understand And I think

5:14

the people who. Have

5:17

been awake. Are becoming much

5:19

more form wide awake. right now. it's

5:21

almost like we had the jitters from

5:23

so much caffeine. so much information we

5:25

know. What

5:28

we're facing so. Let's.

5:30

See for you get some people to. Just.

5:33

Maybe you know feet lease hit Snooze

5:36

Alarm and just wait for a little

5:38

bit. You

5:40

talk about all of the

5:42

things that are important effect

5:44

your your latest book indoctrinating

5:47

our children to death. Is.

5:50

Remarkable and I want to go there.

5:53

But I I want to start. With.

5:56

what you call the deep what is it the

5:58

deep control them of America. And I want to

6:00

start here. There are

6:04

those with ill intent and then there are those

6:11

who are part of

6:14

something but they don't necessarily know

6:16

they're part of something and they

6:19

think they're doing good, right?

6:22

There's no question. In fact, that's kind of the world

6:24

I grew up in, Glenn. We were

6:26

taught that the UN was the hope for

6:29

humanity, that this was the way we were

6:31

going to end war, we were going to

6:33

end conflict, we were going to end poverty.

6:35

And the vast majority of people working for

6:37

the machine genuinely believe that they're doing good.

6:40

They may be okay with the idea that

6:42

the ends justify the means. They may be

6:44

okay with a little bit of lying here

6:46

and there to bring humanity along. Correct. But

6:48

the overwhelming majority of these people do

6:51

truly believe when they go to bed at night that

6:53

they're doing good for the world. It's

6:55

when you get one step above that when

6:57

you find the people with ill intent, the

6:59

people who really do understand that they want

7:01

tyranny, that they want to eliminate

7:03

human liberty, that they want to control the

7:06

lives and micromanage the lives of basically everybody

7:08

on the planet. But even them, I don't

7:10

think, I mean some of them probably yes,

7:13

but even them, they would

7:16

very convince themselves that

7:18

yes, it benefits me but it will

7:21

benefit all of humanity. I mean Hitler

7:24

wasn't saying, how could I just

7:26

make everybody miserable? He had even

7:30

convinced himself that it was

7:32

good but it's harder

7:34

at that level I think. And

7:38

that's what you find a lot with these guys.

7:40

They've convinced themselves that they're so superior to the

7:43

rest of humanity that their plan for our lives

7:45

would be better than our plan for our lives.

7:47

But I like to go back to the Scripture

7:49

scene. Three thousand years ago David wrote in Psalm

7:51

2 about the kings of the earth, the rulers.

7:54

Some translations of the Scriptures say

7:57

conspire, others say they take counsel

7:59

together against Lord and his anointed.

8:01

So you have people thousands of years

8:03

ago who were working together against God,

8:05

against God's purposes, against God's people and

8:08

these kinds of people are still around

8:10

today and unfortunately they're in positions of

8:12

authority in government and big corporations and

8:15

media and the fruit of their

8:17

wickedness is what we see all around us, our

8:19

collapsing society, the war on the middle class, the

8:21

attacks on our liberties. And

8:23

so I do think there are really people with

8:25

ill intent, yes they've convinced themselves that they're better

8:28

than us, they've convinced themselves that there's too many

8:30

of us on the planet and that they're

8:32

going to do good by having a lower

8:34

population but it's wickedness all the same. Yeah

8:37

and it's interesting to me

8:39

that at least the

8:42

way I read it with Donald Trump is he's not

8:44

in their club, he may have wanted to be

8:47

in their club but he's not

8:49

in their club, never has

8:51

been, has this connection to

8:53

America that that club despises,

8:57

he sees it as a great light

9:01

in the world that it does

9:04

make people wealthier and happier and everything

9:06

else. And

9:10

this other group, all

9:13

intellectual who just really

9:16

truly believe people like

9:18

Donald Trump are dummies

9:22

and dangerous and

9:24

I kind of feel a little like Donald

9:26

Trump. I've never been in the, and

9:30

I don't necessarily belong there but

9:32

I've never been in the intellectual

9:34

cool kids club, all the people

9:36

around me will all be like,

9:38

oh yeah we're going to

9:40

have this big and you're like, oh okay. And

9:43

Donald is like that too. What

9:46

is that? What's caused

9:49

that? What club is he not in?

9:52

He's not in any of the really significant clubs or

9:54

the people who like to think they run the world.

9:56

Actually before I wrote Indoctrinating Our Children to Death, I

9:58

did a book at Deep State, government behind

10:00

the scenes where I go through at

10:02

least the critical organizations that are involved

10:04

in this push for undermining national sovereignty,

10:07

overthrowing our Constitution, eliminating individual liberty, and

10:09

you've got a whole bunch of the

10:11

really big ones that stand out explored

10:13

like the Council on Foreign Relations, you

10:15

know, the policymaking class. So

10:17

many of them come from that background.

10:19

You've got the Bilderberg group, you know,

10:22

one of the groups that he has

10:24

not participated in, which is unusual for

10:26

somebody at that high level in politics

10:28

is the Bohemian Club. This group out

10:30

in Northern California, they meet at this weird

10:32

compound in the redwood for it, and actually

10:35

somebody hacked Colin Powell's emails,

10:38

and he had sat next to, I guess, Stephen

10:40

Harper, the former prime minister of Canada, and so

10:42

he wrote to his friend up in Canada, the

10:45

former Justice Minister, and he said, yeah, we were

10:47

just at Bohemian Club, and we all know Trump

10:49

is going to be a disaster. So he's

10:52

not from that world of

10:54

kind of the elites, and

10:56

he had some connections to them just by

10:58

virtue of his wealth and his business,

11:00

and but he was pro-America, and

11:02

he is pro-America, and his instincts

11:06

have almost always been right. You know, we don't want

11:08

the globalism, we don't want to surrender our sovereignty, we

11:10

want to protect the middle class in America. Unfortunately,

11:13

a lot of these deep

11:15

stators, for lack of a better term, weaseled their way

11:18

into his administration. They manipulated him on some key points.

11:20

I suspect it'll be much more difficult for them to

11:22

do that in a second term, but

11:24

I think that's why they really

11:26

don't like him, is because they don't control

11:28

him, they don't have the leverage, they don't

11:30

know what he may or may not do,

11:32

and he doesn't need the world the same

11:34

way. I mean, it's clear

11:37

to me the reason why Donald Trump is

11:39

so hated, not by the press or anybody

11:42

else, but by that elite

11:44

ruling class all over, is they

11:47

have, they've divvied things

11:49

up. They know the trouble,

11:51

they've known it before 2008. Trouble is coming, it's

11:53

an opportunity

11:57

To control the destruction. Of

12:00

all of this and as the Fabian

12:02

Society used to say to rebuild the

12:04

world their shape the world's closer to

12:06

our hearts desire. She's

12:09

not in on that. the

12:11

strength bomb and ah, And.

12:13

They have to stop the stuff that they

12:15

hate him because of his tweets or anything

12:17

else. He will be the

12:20

one that stops that movement if he's

12:22

allowed to really go forward right? That's

12:24

exactly what he did during his first

12:26

ceremony. He was a one man human

12:28

wrecking ball when it came to his

12:31

decisions. have glaucoma the goes I go

12:33

to his face your human angered says

12:35

is the perfect as easy as added

12:37

Unesco, the you in education agency, his

12:40

dumping the World Health Organization, the Un

12:42

are really from works Mrs getting us

12:44

out of the Paris Agreement and this

12:46

as far as the elites are concerned.

12:49

Is is just absolute heresy. How dare

12:51

you attack the institutions of globalism? This

12:53

is what all enlightened people everywhere said

12:56

beliefs. And so they're now that the

12:58

Elites are now ready to move beyond

13:00

the nation states. They won't necessarily come

13:03

on, say that as openly as as

13:05

if they should. They won't necessarily explain

13:07

the implications of that everybody's But they're

13:10

setting up these international institutions, this architecture

13:12

of globalism if you else or and

13:14

they know that Donald Trump's instincts in

13:16

favor of the nation State in. Favor

13:19

of patriotism are a major

13:21

major problem when it comes

13:23

to that agenda. We we

13:25

know that this is true

13:27

just because I think. Rex

13:31

it is a good example. Breaks.

13:33

It didn't those people that were

13:35

for bricks. it did not see

13:38

Europe or it takes. What they

13:40

hated was. Bureaucrats

13:42

from all over. Making.

13:45

Decisions that didn't make sense to

13:47

them. And would make them

13:50

less or telling them be less

13:52

proud of your country. You.

13:55

Don't have to be a heater Of

13:57

Texas has a good example of this.

14:00

I've never heard a Texan say New

14:02

York City sucks. I'm a

14:04

Texan now, but not by birth, so

14:07

I can say it. And New York

14:09

City socks Som. Would. They always

14:11

say is where you from. Five.

14:13

From New York. Ah! Well.

14:16

Start taxes or for the here. it's a

14:18

nice place you know to mean that's

14:20

what people what they are. his pride. On

14:23

where you're from but it doesn't mean

14:25

hatred and their. That. This

14:27

global elite Once you to

14:29

sever your ties. To.

14:32

All of your traditions, All of

14:34

the things that you've done well.

14:37

All of your history. Absolutely

14:39

everything. And that's what people are

14:42

pushing back on. Who are you

14:44

to tell me? That.

14:46

My country which I love. And.

14:48

I understand is made bad mistakes of times.

14:51

Needs. To be forgotten Unless

14:53

fine know we matter. And

14:57

and that really is I think the core of

14:59

the issue. And and I've been outside the United

15:01

States the vast majority of my life. I grew

15:03

up in Latin America, Europe Africa so I you

15:06

know I've seen all of that and that I

15:08

said. He has given me a greater appreciation of

15:10

America and America as he has I think a

15:12

special place of hatred for the elites, not just

15:15

because it's it's a nice unstable because of the

15:17

principles that it was founded on. This is what

15:19

they really can't stand. Yes, they want to undermine

15:21

and A since they they want to move toward

15:24

these regional governments like the European Union, the African.

15:26

Union or and Kissinger outline this in

15:28

his book World Order sir.com Schwab he

15:30

outlined. it is but great resets that

15:32

America I think they they especially hate

15:34

this country because the principles and based

15:36

on are not compatible with their vision

15:38

for the world's is of the principles

15:41

and our founders enshrined in the Declaration

15:43

of Independence that God created us equally.

15:45

God gave us rights and our mission

15:47

is to protect these rights Buddies or

15:49

biblical principles. God. said dot

15:51

shalt not murders to have a right to

15:53

life guard said government exists to punish evil

15:55

so the government should punish murderers and thieves

15:57

he said yeah right properties and they can't

15:59

stand those principles. So they have to destroy

16:02

not just the nation of America, not just

16:04

the physical space and the people, but they

16:06

have to discredit the ideas that's based on

16:08

it. I think we're entering that phase. So

16:10

do you think that it's

16:15

the ideas are

16:18

more important like you have a

16:20

right to property and everything else to

16:23

them that they hate that more

16:25

than they hate the fact that

16:28

you're just letting anyone have

16:30

a say? You're just

16:32

letting the unwashed masses their

16:35

morons. You know what I

16:37

mean? Which one do you think they go together?

16:40

Yeah, I mean that's really the essence of

16:42

America. America is different than other nations. Traditionally

16:45

nations have been defined by a common

16:47

culture, a common language, maybe a common

16:49

ethnicity, the Hungarians, the Swedes, whatever, the

16:52

French, the Germans. But America is unique

16:54

in that it's founded on these principles,

16:56

these ideas like we the

16:58

people should govern ourselves under God. God's the

17:00

one who gave us rights, not the king,

17:02

not the government, etc. And they

17:05

do want to ultimately undermine the nation state. You

17:07

see this is an institution

17:09

that God actually ordained. You go back to Deuteronomy,

17:12

you go to Acts, you see God is the

17:14

one who divided mankind into nations. And so there

17:16

is this effort to undermine nations

17:18

as an identity, as an

17:20

institution. But America is double

17:23

plus bad, if you will, because not only

17:26

are we a nation, a very powerful nation

17:28

with a vibrant middle class, at least we

17:30

were, but we're also founded on these principles

17:32

that are fundamentally incompatible with their vision for

17:34

the world. When

17:38

did this... I mean there's

17:40

always been people that, you know, wanted

17:42

to be the Lord and Lady, and

17:44

you're a serf. That's

17:46

just the way it is. That's why God intended it.

17:49

So that's always been there. But

17:51

this just seems different

17:54

to me. When did

17:56

this start as a nation? As

18:03

so every

18:05

institution, every higher

18:07

education, it's all

18:09

just packed with this attitude.

18:12

When did that start? When did that happen? Well,

18:15

I think there's several different ways of looking at it.

18:17

I mean, if you want to look at the rebellion

18:19

starting in the Garden of Eden, the

18:21

Tower of Babel, people have always been rebelling against

18:23

God and His commands. But I

18:25

think the modern iteration of this, especially

18:27

in the Western world, is more recent.

18:29

So what I think really defined the

18:31

Western world was its attachment to biblical

18:33

principles, the gospel, the

18:36

spread of Christianity. That really was the essence

18:38

of what the Western world was. Yeah, there

18:40

were some Roman and Greek influences, but primarily

18:42

it was the Christian heritage. And

18:45

as we have moved away from that over

18:47

the last 60, 70 years, and

18:49

of course the process began earlier, you

18:51

see now all of the institutions becoming

18:53

corrupt. And I think that agenda

18:55

has been there really from the beginning. I

18:57

think it's diabolical, but its success in the

19:00

Western world is more recent. And I'd say

19:02

you could go back 100 years

19:04

and look really at the critical institutions that

19:06

are moving us toward globalism, like the Council

19:08

on Foreign Relations. You go back maybe

19:10

70 years. The Woodrow Wilson. Oh, for example,

19:13

you had a progressive movement. But

19:15

these trends were there before. I mean, you can

19:17

go back to the mid-1800s. You've

19:20

got Karl Marx. You go back before that,

19:22

you've got people like Robert Owen. So there

19:24

have been people with these ideas. There

19:27

was a big giant brick wall

19:29

in their path, an insurmountable obstacle.

19:31

And that obstacle over a period

19:33

of generations with constant warfare indoctrinating

19:36

children, that big brick wall that

19:38

was in their way is now crumbling. And so

19:40

now we see the manifestation of this so clearly.

19:42

So you bring up God. So

19:44

let's go to an even bigger picture when

19:46

I said, when did it start? I

19:48

think when a third

19:51

of the angels were lost and

19:56

Satan is cast out, that whole

19:58

argument was about individual

20:01

choice. You

20:03

are going to choose. You are going

20:06

to, yes, you're going to suffer and

20:08

you're going to, you know, whatever, but

20:10

you will have freedom of

20:12

choice. Satan said, no,

20:14

no, no, no, you don't want all the suffer,

20:16

you don't want all of that, what kind of

20:18

person are you? I thought you were a good

20:21

guy. Now you're making everybody suffer and

20:23

you're saying some of us are going to be lost. I'll

20:26

tell them what to do. I think

20:28

what we're experiencing now is

20:32

the same battle that is found

20:34

in the falling of a third

20:36

of the angels. And it's the

20:39

same, I think it's the same

20:41

argument as well. How do you get a

20:43

third of the angels who are seeing God

20:45

all the time, praising Him, standing there? They

20:48

know who He is. How

20:50

do you get them to turn on Him? You

20:52

have to make Him into a monster through

20:55

compassion. You have to say, He wants

20:59

some of you lost. He's not

21:01

going to save everybody. He wants you

21:03

to suffer. I'm telling you there's a way to

21:05

not suffer. Do

21:07

you think of that theory? You're absolutely correct.

21:09

And one of the things that you see,

21:12

and this has been going on for hundreds

21:14

of years, is this movement to try to

21:16

make that exact argument, right? God is oppressive.

21:18

God's got all these rules for your life,

21:20

you know, how mean of Him to say

21:22

that you shall not and you must do

21:24

this. You know, why not have total freedom?

21:26

And you see actually a lot of self-proclaimed

21:29

Satanists make these arguments. Do what thou wilt

21:31

shall be the whole of the law, right?

21:33

We don't need to obey those silly moral

21:35

codes. You know, who does God think He

21:37

is going to oppose those things? And

21:40

for a long time, those kind of

21:42

base instincts, especially in the Western world,

21:44

were held in check because the rest

21:46

of society said, no, wait, these are

21:48

important. These are good things. But now

21:50

we see that breaking down after a

21:52

period of multiple generations of constant attack,

21:54

indoctrination of multiple generations of children. And

21:56

so we're now moving into a new phase

21:59

of the battle. with you. This is all

22:01

the same struggle between good and evil

22:03

that's been going on from the dawn

22:05

of humanity. And it's maybe a

22:07

new phase in that battle, but ultimately the core

22:09

of the battle is still the same. So

22:12

when you say council foreign

22:14

relations, Bilderberg's, Rothschild's,

22:20

the Club of Rome, those

22:23

are all key words to

22:25

go. Oh, and do you

22:27

have foil on your windows? You

22:29

know what I mean? They're all

22:32

conspiracy. Many

22:34

of them, when you

22:36

say them, they're also a laser

22:40

pointer to go anti-semite. What

22:43

do you... Take

22:47

me through those and show me how it's not

22:50

a conspiracy or what parts

22:52

are false. Who

22:55

are they? Great

22:57

questions. And I would say, first of all, there's two ditches

22:59

that one can fall in on

23:01

these issues. There's the one ditch, and

23:03

some people fall into this ditch, that these

23:06

individuals, these organizations are so powerful, they

23:08

practically attribute divine God-like powers. Nothing can

23:10

happen without their permission. They run everything

23:12

in the world. And that's ludicrous. Of

23:14

course they don't. They're not God. They

23:17

don't control things. And then

23:19

there's the other ditch that one can fall in that says, oh,

23:21

there's nothing to see here. That's just

23:23

a nice nonpartisan think tank. Well, it's not just

23:25

a nice nonpartisan think tank. And to go

23:27

back to what we started this conversation with, certainly not

23:29

everybody who's a member of the Council on Foreign Relations,

23:32

they have about 5,000 members, is an

23:34

evil-doing conspirator who wants to enslave humanity. A lot

23:36

of these people are people who would be nice

23:38

to have a drink with, might be nice to

23:40

have a coffee with, might be nice to have

23:43

lunch with. They're people who believe what

23:45

they're doing is good. They're

23:47

people who believe that the world would

23:49

be better without this attachment to national

23:52

sovereignty where more power and responsibility was

23:54

transferred to international institutions like the UN.

23:57

But it's a real group. It has been

23:59

incredibly influential. influential in setting policy in the

24:01

United States for generations. Now you can look

24:03

at virtually every presidential administration for the last

24:05

60 years has been dominated at the cabinet

24:07

level by members of the Council on Foreign

24:09

Relations. It doesn't matter if they're Republican, Democrat.

24:11

You see these people are, they run a

24:13

lot of the big media companies, they run

24:15

a lot of the big banks. Well,

24:17

when you find out, you know, anytime

24:20

Woodrow Wilson is involved, red

24:22

flags go up. But when

24:24

you see why Colonel

24:26

House, I think it was Colonel

24:28

House, that set it up

24:31

because he felt the

24:34

unwashed masses, they don't understand. And

24:37

the media needs to be on our

24:39

side. So we're going to

24:41

come up with the policies because we're the

24:43

elites. We understand it. We'll

24:45

teach it to the media so the

24:47

media can help teach it to the

24:49

people. So it's a

24:51

completely un-American

24:54

kind of, it's

24:56

a brainwashing center really. That's

24:59

how it was designed. Now I don't know how long

25:01

it took before it really became that

25:04

or if it ever fully became that. But

25:07

that was the beginning thought.

25:10

Am I wrong? You're absolutely right.

25:12

And you go back and you look at the origin

25:14

of the CFR. You're right, Colonel Edward Mandel House was

25:16

a key player in that. The reason

25:18

they set it up is because the U.S.

25:20

Senate refused to participate in the League of

25:22

Nations and they wanted to build this international

25:24

architecture. They wanted government power to expand and

25:27

manage the lives of people because a lot of them

25:29

were these utopians. They loved the world and worked better

25:31

that way. And when it

25:34

comes to this issue of anti-Semitism, really

25:36

I think it's absurd when people say

25:38

that. Some of the biggest victims

25:40

of these people and these agendas are actually Jews.

25:44

And when you look at the people who are

25:46

running these institutions, David Rockefeller is a really good

25:48

example. David Rockefeller is not a Jew. Nobody has

25:50

ever accused him of being a Jew and yet

25:52

he was the chairman of the CFR for a

25:54

long time, steering committee member on the Bilderberg. He's

25:57

been a major player in all this. Or

26:00

when people try to say that's anti-Semitic or when

26:02

people try to say it's a conspiracy, I

26:05

say, you know, we need to define our

26:07

terms. That is really ludicrous. And even the

26:09

term conspiracy, this is something that the CIA

26:11

tried to popularize as a term of ridicule.

26:13

I encourage people to open up their dictionaries.

26:15

The word conspiracy just means two

26:17

or more people working in secret

26:19

on some immoral, illegal or nefarious

26:23

objective. So there are conspiracies

26:25

all over the place that nobody would be

26:28

surprised to know that two businessmen conspired to

26:30

fix prices. Nobody would be surprised to know

26:32

that two politicians conspired to get something through

26:34

the legislature. But we're

26:37

trained, almost like Pavlov's dogs,

26:39

we're conditioned to recoil in

26:41

horror when somebody says the term conspiracy.

26:43

Well, we shouldn't. The Department of Justice

26:45

charges people with conspiracy virtually

26:48

every day of the week in this

26:50

country. So do state prosecutors. Well, Cass

26:52

Sunstein with Obama wrote

26:55

that famous argument,

26:58

academic only, that to

27:01

discredit people, you have to

27:03

say this is a conspiracy theory

27:06

even if it is true. You

27:09

call it a conspiracy theory because

27:11

it will at least slow everything

27:13

down. And they have a

27:15

new term now that they've been using, I'm

27:18

sure you've seen malinformation, which is information that's

27:20

true but the elites have determined is being

27:22

put out there for purposes that they disagree

27:24

with. So it's amazing now that we're in

27:27

a world where truth is no longer a

27:29

defense. You can't say that even if it's

27:31

true because, take your term, conspiracy

27:33

theory, malinformation, Russia, whatever it is.

27:36

And I think as people who value

27:38

truth, we should stand on truth regardless

27:42

of what nudgers like

27:44

Cass Sunstein want us to feel

27:46

when we're accused of being so-called

27:48

conspiracy theorists or whatever. But

27:50

there is a difference, right? You said let's define

27:52

the term. There is

27:54

a difference between a conspiracy and

27:56

a conspiracy theory. Absolutely. Right? What

27:59

is the difference? is a conspiracy

28:01

theory is a hypothesis or

28:03

a theory about a possible

28:06

conspiracy. And everybody comes

28:08

up with these. I mean, we're human beings,

28:10

we're not animals, so we notice patterns. I

28:12

don't think it's wise to promote conspiracy theories

28:14

unless and until you have evidence proving that

28:17

it's true. But the fact

28:19

that there are conspiracies is irrefutable. You know,

28:21

to go back to Psalm 2, 3,000 years

28:23

ago, David was writing about the kings of

28:25

the earth and the rulers conspiring. That's how

28:27

a lot of translations render that. It's

28:30

the way humans are, it's the way

28:33

we operate. And, you

28:35

know, if you want to define conspiracy

28:38

only as bad and evil, well,

28:41

there are good conspiracies, I think, as well.

28:43

People that get together and

28:45

say, you know what? I think doing

28:48

X, Y, and Z, I think the secret

28:50

part is where it starts to get a

28:52

little nefarious. But we conspire with each other

28:55

to move things forward and we're always

28:57

on both sides convinced that it's good.

28:59

Yeah. Well, and, you know, I think

29:01

there is something in human nature where

29:04

sometimes we justify things to ourselves that we know

29:06

are not right. And I

29:09

think there's a lot of that going on with the

29:11

elites, you know, to go back to what we started

29:13

the conversation with. A lot of these guys justify conspiring

29:15

with each other. And, you know, David Rockefeller actually uses

29:17

that term to go back to David Rockefeller. If you

29:19

get his autobiography, if you pick up the original copy

29:21

page 405, you'll see

29:23

he's actually bragging. He uses the

29:26

term conspiring. He says, some even believe

29:28

that we, talking about the Rockefeller family,

29:30

are part of a secret cabal, is

29:32

the term he uses, that we're conspiring

29:34

against the best interests of the United

29:36

States with internationalists, or as Trump would

29:38

call them, the globalists, to build a

29:40

more integrated one world political and economic

29:42

structure, a one world order, if you

29:44

will. And he says, if that's the

29:46

charge, I stand guilty and I'm proud

29:48

of it. So by David Rockefeller's own

29:50

admission, he is guilty and proud of

29:52

conspiring with a secret cabal

29:55

against the best interests of his own country to build

29:57

a one world order. Correct. So how can somebody say

30:00

there's no conspiracy, the guy's bragging about it.

30:02

It's a smoking gun confession. What more do

30:04

you need? I'm trying to remember the name

30:06

of the professor, I think he was from

30:08

Harvard, wrote Tragedy and Hope. Carol

30:11

Quigley. Bill Clinton's mentor. Right.

30:13

And he comes out in Tragedy

30:15

and Hope and says there's this

30:17

conspiracy, wars will change.

30:21

Everything he outlined is absolutely

30:23

been happening ever since. And

30:26

he said we're doing it to build

30:28

a more stable world. So there's no

30:30

more tragedy like World War I and

30:32

Number II. Wars

30:35

will be different because we've tied all of

30:37

our economies together. He

30:39

was disavowed. I mean,

30:42

I think he was

30:44

with five different presidents. And

30:46

once he wrote the book, they were all like,

30:48

I don't know him. They really threw him under

30:50

the bus. Yeah, threw him under the bus. But

30:52

it's still not well known with

30:56

the average person that yeah,

30:58

they do admit to stuff. They do admit it. I

31:00

keep a copy of his books in my office, Tragedy

31:02

and Hope, and The Hips of the World in Our

31:04

Time and also the Anglo-American establishment. And what he says

31:06

is so fascinating. He's like, you know what, I agree

31:08

with these guys. I've been close to them for decades,

31:11

he says. They even gave me a period of a

31:13

few years to examine their secret papers. And I

31:15

agree, he says, with most of what they're doing.

31:17

He said, my chief difference of opinion is that

31:19

they want to be in the shadows. They want

31:21

to be the secret. And I think their role

31:23

in history, he says, is significant enough that it

31:25

ought to be publicly known. So that is the

31:27

biggest thing for me on all of this stuff.

31:31

I have no problem losing

31:34

a battle, an

31:36

intellectual battle with

31:38

somebody who's actually presenting

31:40

the truth. You know what I mean?

31:42

This is our goal. This is how

31:44

we see things. This is the way

31:46

we want to go. And somebody else saying

31:49

the opposite. If you have that battle

31:51

back and forth, and it's honest, I

31:53

don't have a problem. I mean, I may not

31:55

like it, but I have less

31:57

of a problem because at least that's

32:00

what people decided and

32:02

who am I to say I'm wrong. They won't

32:05

do that because A,

32:09

why should I engage with these

32:11

idiots, right? And I think

32:15

there's also a sense they understand

32:17

that if these ideas were to

32:19

be discussed out in the open,

32:21

people would like it. They would

32:23

lose, right? But they lose because

32:25

they're nationalists, they're small-minded, they're racist,

32:27

whatever. The right wing extremists. Yeah,

32:30

conspiracy theorists. They've got these terms

32:32

that they're, and it's very unfortunate

32:34

that multiple generations of children

32:36

have now been conditioned in the schools

32:38

to respond this way. It's not that

32:40

they're thinking about the evidence or what

32:42

you've stated. They're just conditioned to respond

32:44

very emotionally to these trigger words. So

32:46

it's not that they're listening to what

32:49

you're saying and evaluating your argument, figuring

32:51

out if it's a logical argument, if

32:53

the conclusion follows logically from the premises.

32:55

They're just having an emotional response like

32:57

Pavlov's dogs were drooling. Well, there's a

32:59

racist or conspiracy theorist without actually thinking

33:01

about it. And so the people who

33:03

are pushing these ideas know that if

33:05

these ideas were to be discussed and

33:08

debated openly, hey, we want to run

33:10

your life for you. We think

33:12

there are too many of you on the

33:14

planet. We want to remove your ability to

33:16

govern yourself as a nation. We want to

33:19

move power and authority to regional and international

33:21

institutions. A fair debate about that would absolutely

33:24

crush this agenda so they can't

33:26

let it happen. Right. You talk

33:28

about a, how do

33:31

you phrase it exactly, a

33:34

backlash building among Americans.

33:39

Can you talk about that? What is that?

33:42

What do you foresee? There's a massive backlash

33:44

building and you see it even in the

33:46

establishment's own polls. There was just one that

33:48

was released recently. Almost 60% of

33:50

Americans see the media as the enemies of

33:52

the people. So people get it. They understand

33:54

that they're being lied to. They understand that

33:56

their country is being systematically destroyed and they don't.

33:58

don't like it. They may not understand it

34:00

all. They may still be tuning into the

34:02

fake media. They know the fake media is

34:04

lying to them. They know the fake media

34:06

is being dishonest, but they

34:09

don't agree with what's happening. They understand

34:11

something is wrong. And so I think

34:13

this backlash is taking various different forms.

34:16

And I think the big risk is that

34:18

the elites themselves or the elitists will

34:21

be able to divert that backlash, divert

34:23

that anger into something that would be

34:25

destructive or at least counterproductive. And so

34:27

that's I think a real danger with

34:30

this backlash is that it could be

34:32

manipulated or misdirected into something that would

34:34

be, again, counterproductive or potentially even destructive.

34:37

And you see the CFR talking about

34:39

this. When the Tea Party was around

34:41

this, you know, how do we channel

34:44

all this anger and all this energy

34:46

into something that at least will be harmless to

34:48

our agenda? And there are very smart

34:50

people who are trying to figure this out right

34:52

now. What do we do? That is the problem

34:55

is, you know, our billionaires on the right, they

34:57

generally, you know, I

35:00

want results. I want it

35:02

right now. And how is it good for

35:04

me? You know what I mean? Where the

35:06

left just seems to be crazy with their

35:08

money. And they are also

35:10

longer term thinkers in some ways.

35:12

They will. They will spend the

35:14

money to plant the seeds to

35:16

explore what can happen. And

35:20

then you have almost every

35:22

academic in the world on

35:25

board with them. So

35:27

anything that you think they've already

35:29

war-gamed forever ago.

35:31

So how do you beat

35:34

that? Well, that's a

35:36

very good question. And you're absolutely right about

35:38

the war-gaming. They've got very, very smart people,

35:40

scenario planners, futurists coming up with, you know,

35:42

they did this with the 2020 election. They

35:45

put together the Transition Integrity Project, George Soros,

35:47

the Podesta's, all the rest of them. Thank

35:50

you for saying this and exposing that. Right.

35:52

And they came up with the foremost likely

35:54

scenarios. And so here are the

35:56

fourth ways we think this could go. And then how do

35:58

we respond in each one of these four? scenario so that

36:00

we can get things to go the way that we want.

36:03

So there are very smart people working on this. But again,

36:05

it goes back to that other ditch that I described. It's

36:08

important that people not fall into the trap of

36:10

believing that these people are all powerful.

36:13

They're absolutely not. If they were all powerful, we would

36:16

have all been losing our liberty a

36:18

long time ago. We wouldn't have still what we

36:20

have in this country. And so I

36:22

think to defeat it, we really need divine assistance.

36:24

You know, as our founding fathers said when they

36:26

went to war with the most powerful empire of

36:28

the day, we're going to rely on divine providence.

36:30

We're going to trust God here. We're going to

36:32

trust in the righteousness of our intentions. We're not

36:34

going to trust our weapons. We're not going to

36:36

trust in princes. We're not going to trust in

36:38

our military. I mean, these are farmers. All

36:41

right. So we really need God's help

36:43

in this battle. So let me stop

36:45

you here because this is so important.

36:48

But if I'm listening and

36:50

I'm somebody who

36:53

doesn't understand what it doesn't have the

36:57

educational background

36:59

to understand what we've

37:01

said, haven't looked into all of the

37:06

things that you've been talking about, we'll

37:09

pick something up from the media and the

37:11

left and they'll say, you're

37:13

a Christian nationalist. Christian

37:16

nationalism, I think is becoming one

37:18

of the most dangerous. It's one

37:20

of those things you war game.

37:22

How can we use this? And

37:26

there is real

37:28

Christian nationalism. There

37:31

is the

37:34

majority, I think, of people that

37:37

don't understand the booby

37:39

trap that that is. They

37:42

also, people are starting to

37:44

say that our founders

37:46

said this system is

37:49

wholly inadequate for a non-religious

37:51

or unethical

37:53

population. So they're

37:56

making the case now, well, we're

37:58

not ethical. We're not moral. we're

38:00

not religious, so this system's

38:02

gotta go. And you have

38:04

now the right, some

38:06

people on the right, making the

38:09

case for extra-constitutional powers and

38:11

bringing the church deep inside the

38:14

state, which is just

38:16

as bad as what the other

38:18

side is doing. And I don't

38:20

think people understand. The average person,

38:23

when they hear, well, yeah, I love

38:25

my country, and am I

38:27

a Christian? Yeah, that's

38:29

not what Christian nationalism is, but

38:31

that's what the media and the puppet

38:34

masters are trying to make

38:36

everybody believe is

38:41

what it is on our side. So

38:43

you go, yeah, well, I don't have a problem with that. It's

38:46

a movie trap. Can you go into

38:48

that at all and tell me your

38:51

thoughts on, because

38:53

I'm seeing it everywhere, your

38:55

thoughts on people on our side asking

38:59

for extra-constitutional powers

39:01

and making this case while times are

39:04

different. Now, I think it's

39:06

incredibly dangerous, right? The Constitution is

39:09

supposed to protect all of us. And

39:11

I do believe the Constitution is one of the

39:14

most incredible documents that was ever written in human

39:16

history, maybe outside of the Bible and a handful

39:18

of others. And what it

39:20

did, probably the most enlightening document I ever

39:23

read about the Constitution was a speech that

39:25

was given by Samuel Langdon. He was the

39:27

head of Harvard back when it was a

39:29

semi-legitimate educational institution to the New

39:31

Hampshire legislature. He was trying to convince them to

39:33

ratify the US Constitution. And

39:36

he explained how the principles of

39:38

government that God had revealed to

39:40

the ancient Hebrews in the Old

39:42

Testament had been distilled and enshrined

39:44

into what would become the

39:46

supreme law of the land. And so this

39:48

is a remarkable document. And we have an

39:50

amendment process. For the people who

39:52

are on all sides, the

39:55

people who are advocating for a restructured

39:58

system or even just the granting. of

40:00

new powers to the federal government, we have

40:02

a process for that. I'd

40:05

like to see some amendments personally. I'd get rid

40:07

of the 16th Amendment. You don't like the armpit,

40:09

right? But we have to do this the lawful

40:11

way. And the great thing about the Constitution is

40:13

it protects all of us. It protects the

40:15

godless and the pagans and the Christians. The

40:17

rule of law is something that all

40:20

of us should want, whether you're a liberal,

40:22

a conservative, a libertarian, it doesn't matter. And

40:25

so I too am very troubled by these calls

40:27

to empower the federal government beyond what the Constitution

40:29

allows, which of course has been going on for

40:31

a very long time. And you see people on

40:33

the right now say, hey, the left is doing

40:35

it. Why don't we do it too? I think

40:38

it's very, very dangerous. Because you have nothing left.

40:40

Right. If we lose that, you

40:42

know, it's chaos, it's anarchy, it's

40:44

tyranny all at once. We've seen

40:47

this grow unnamed,

40:50

at least unnamed by the left,

40:53

in just the executive order. The

40:57

executive order, you can

40:59

see the damage that you

41:02

cannot be one country for four years

41:04

and then be the opposite country for

41:06

four years. And it's

41:08

all tied to unelected

41:11

people, the

41:13

Congress surrendering their powers.

41:16

Every solution that we need is

41:19

just returned to the

41:22

documents. And I

41:26

think people just think that you're just not

41:28

going to be able... It's

41:30

why the progressives forgot

41:33

about the amendment process. Because

41:36

it's too hard. Well, yes,

41:39

it is hard. But keeping

41:41

liberty is the hardest

41:43

thing man has ever tried to do.

41:45

And we've never gotten it right. So

41:49

there is some effort that is involved. And

41:55

I'm glad to hear you say you are as

41:57

concerned because I hear some big...

42:00

big people starting to

42:02

say this. Yep, yep. You know, hey,

42:04

when Donald Trump gets back in office, the gloves

42:06

are off. I said, no, guys,

42:08

that's really, really dangerous because, you know, assuming Donald

42:10

Trump gets elected for another term, somebody's going to

42:12

come after him. And then they're

42:14

going to say, well, hey, Donald Trump, you served all

42:16

these powers. Why shouldn't we serve all these powers? It's

42:19

very, very dangerous. And you're absolutely right, too,

42:21

about the solution to so many of the

42:23

problems that afflict our country right now. Just

42:26

go back to something really simple. Let's have

42:28

the federal government obey the Constitution. If it

42:30

wasn't that huge, if it wasn't that powerful,

42:33

we wouldn't be having these vicious battles against

42:35

each other. It wouldn't be that important who

42:37

won XYZ election because the federal government would

42:40

be small. It'd be sticking to its constitutional

42:42

responsibilities. If we had a discussion about

42:44

what those responsibilities are, we could have

42:46

those debates in our state legislatures or

42:48

in Congress, considering an amendment. But

42:51

this effort to

42:53

overthrow our Constitution, to throw off the

42:56

shackles of the Constitution, regardless

42:59

of where it's coming from, is really, really dangerous.

43:01

And I think people who do value liberty, people

43:03

who do value our civilization, they need to say

43:05

no. Yeah. You

43:08

know, I think it's never been

43:10

more important for people to watch

43:12

international news because what you

43:14

see, wait a minute, the

43:17

farmers are all up in

43:19

arms in Germany and Italy and Sweden

43:23

and England and America,

43:26

and it's all kind of the same thing. You

43:28

start to realize this

43:31

Trump-Biden argument is

43:34

a show. It's all a

43:36

show. I mean, it means something to them.

43:40

But if we could just

43:42

get past the personalities and

43:45

then see and strip it all away

43:47

and go, what kind of

43:49

engine is being built here? What

43:52

are we actually looking at? You realize,

43:54

wait a minute, I

43:57

may like Trump or hate Trump. But

44:00

that's irrelevant because the same argument is

44:02

happening all around the Western world and

44:05

Trump isn't there That's

44:08

right and you see this now you see this Populist

44:11

backlash happening isn't we talked a little bit

44:13

about it here in the United States This

44:15

is a global phenomenon all over Europe you

44:17

have parties that want to crack down on

44:19

the mass migration You have parties that want

44:21

to crack down on the war on farmers

44:23

parties that want to stop this out of

44:26

control expansion of government The censorship the control

44:28

the surrender of sovereignty both to regional and

44:30

to global institutions And it's been

44:32

successful in a lot of place I mean Javier

44:34

Mille in Argentina is a good example that Jair

44:37

Bolsonaro in Brazil was a good example

44:39

of that I mean here wild wilders in the

44:41

Netherlands just Dominated in the

44:43

last election in Switzerland even in Sweden,

44:45

right? I mean even in Sweden you

44:47

have the populist party

44:50

Rising just meteorically in their

44:53

elections and that can be

44:55

dangerous if it's not Connected

44:58

to principles right if it's not if

45:00

it's not constrained and buy something like

45:02

the Constitution and and of course principles,

45:04

correct Talk

45:07

to me a little bit about the

45:09

Collusion if you think there is and conspiracy

45:12

if you think there is It's

45:16

awfully odd that everyone in the

45:18

West has

45:21

borders that don't matter and

45:23

has you know when

45:25

you read about Ireland and They're

45:28

saying the same thing that people

45:30

are saying, you know in New

45:32

York that are like, hey, we're

45:34

overwhelmed here There's

45:36

got it's not a coincidence. Is it

45:38

what is the plan on that? Why

45:40

is that being done? Well,

45:43

it's being done for a number of different reasons

45:45

I think the overarching purpose of it is

45:47

actually to undermine the nation-state like we talked about

45:50

and also to undermine Christianity as

45:52

a cultural force and you

45:54

see this so clearly in Europe that the most recent country I

45:56

lived in before coming back to the United States was Sweden and

45:59

Sweden of course or the brunt of the

46:01

refugee crisis. I mean, it made what happened in

46:03

Germany look mild by comparison. But you see this

46:05

all throughout Europe, right? You look at London. Brits

46:08

are now a minority in their own capital

46:10

city. They have an Islamic mayor. They now

46:13

have a pagan prime minister. This is a

46:15

country that's been an officially Christian country for

46:17

over a thousand years. Something incredibly

46:19

significant is happening and nobody even wants to talk

46:21

about it for fear of what they might be

46:23

called. If you look at Frankfurt, Germans are in

46:25

the minority. You look at Brussels and Belgium. Germans

46:28

are a tiny minority in their own capital

46:30

city, Malmö, Sweden. So this is happening all

46:32

over Europe and of course it will be

46:35

happening here if this continues. And it wouldn't.

46:38

Would you agree with me? It wouldn't

46:40

be bad if those people from other

46:42

countries, no matter their color, religion, or

46:44

anything else, wanted to

46:46

be Swedish. But they don't.

46:48

Yes, correct. And I think that's one of

46:50

the reasons why they're being imported. So what

46:52

happens is you wake up one day and

46:54

you look around and you realize all

46:57

these people in your city, in your community, they

46:59

don't speak your language, they don't share your values,

47:01

they don't know your history. You have

47:03

virtually nothing in common with them other than being a human

47:06

being. You say, well, what do we have these lines on

47:08

the map for? Why do we need

47:10

a nation state? Why not just be citizens

47:12

of the world? And the UN has actually

47:15

been fairly transparent that this is the agenda.

47:17

They hired Peter Sutherland from Goldman Sachs.

47:19

He passed away a few years

47:21

ago, I believe. But he was made the

47:23

UN migration czar. And he said in an

47:25

interview with the UN News Center that they

47:28

posted on the UN News Center website that

47:30

what's happening here is

47:32

a restructuring of the world. We are using

47:34

this migration to undermine a sense of national

47:36

identity. He says we have to get over

47:38

the old chivaliths of borders and the historic

47:40

memories of our own country. And so I

47:42

believe this is actually the strategy. And

47:45

I was in Hungary a few years ago. I was invited

47:47

to the Prime Minister's office and did a 30-minute interview with

47:49

their secretary of state. That's

47:51

exactly what he said. They're trying to undermine the

47:53

nation state. They're trying to undermine Christian

47:55

culture and Christian heritage. And you see it so

47:57

clearly in Europe. It's not quite as obvious. in

48:00

America yet. But like in Sweden, you had

48:02

the lesbian bishop of the Church of Sweden

48:04

say, let's take down the crosses from the

48:06

churches. Let's build prayer rooms to

48:08

Allah in these ancient Swedish churches

48:10

that have been there many cases for a thousand

48:12

years. So it's the de-Christianization

48:15

and it's the undermining of national

48:17

cohesion and national identity. So

48:19

here's what I can't get past, you know, with

48:22

the WEF and the Great Reset. When

48:24

you read what they talk about with food, the

48:28

most frightening sentence

48:30

in that entire plan that I

48:32

read was, we are

48:34

redesigning the entire

48:37

process from seed

48:39

to fork. What

48:44

unbelievable arrogance,

48:46

okay, that you're

48:48

taking thousands of years of

48:51

knowledge from farming and you're

48:53

putting academics in charge who

48:56

have all kinds of different, they might

48:58

think that they're doing good, but

49:01

there's no one stopping saying,

49:03

wait, wait, wait, what

49:06

are the unintended consequences? You

49:09

know, when they say we want to border this world, okay,

49:13

but what are the unintended consequences

49:15

that are coming our way? Yeah,

49:17

and the intended consequences, you look

49:19

at the war on food, I

49:22

first picked up on this trend a decade ago.

49:24

I spent years living in Brazil, I lived in

49:26

South Africa, and so in South Africa I saw

49:28

the president of the country, Jacob Zuma, singing, literally,

49:31

bring me my machine gun, we're going to shoot all the bores.

49:33

And you know, bores is a people group,

49:35

but it also means farmer. I'm like, why would

49:37

anybody want to shoot their farmers? That sounds like

49:39

a recipe for disaster. So then I'm looking at

49:42

Brazil and I was being contacted by people

49:44

I knew there, said, Alex, the government is

49:46

taking hundreds of thousands of heckners out of

49:48

production. They're literally wiping whole towns and villages

49:50

off the map. And the guys are giving

49:52

this land back to this group of Indians

49:54

who supposedly lived here hundreds of years ago.

49:56

So I reached out to this group of

49:58

Indians, the Cervantes Indians, they said. That's not

50:00

our land. In fact, we don't even live in that ecosystem.

50:02

We're from the Ploest, I'm not from the Saab. Wait

50:05

a minute, South Africa, Brazil, they look at China. They

50:07

didn't even need an excuse there. They just said, get

50:09

off this land, peasants. We built two apartments in the

50:11

cities. If you don't like it, we're going to torture

50:14

you and kill you. So then you look at what's

50:16

happening in the Netherlands. You look at Sri Lanka, you

50:18

look at the United States. There aren't pretexts, right? Climate

50:20

change, saving a desert tortoise, you know, whatever it is.

50:23

But it's all aimed at undermining the independent

50:25

farmer and rancher. So where are they going

50:27

with it? They want a system where food

50:30

is entirely controlled and

50:32

entirely centralized, literally from the seed, as

50:34

you pointed out. They actually want to

50:36

patent the DNA of the seeds and

50:38

the livestock for every organism that we

50:40

eat, and they're working on that. Bill

50:42

Gates, his dad was a patent attorney,

50:45

they understood early on that controlling the

50:47

intellectual property, controlling the food and the

50:49

energy is the way to

50:51

control humanity. So when you look

50:53

at this war on farmers, it

50:55

seems to me that the intended

50:57

consequences is total domination of mankind. Say

51:02

that again. I heard you. But

51:06

say that again. The intended

51:08

consequences. So

51:11

I mean, you look at the profit motive. Yes,

51:13

a lot of the people involved in this, they

51:15

want to make profit. They figure, hey, if we

51:17

patent the genetic code for this new and improved

51:19

corn that we created in a laboratory or this

51:21

new and improved goat or cow, you know, we're

51:23

going to make a lot of money. And of

51:25

course, a company is obligated to make money. They're

51:27

obligated to earn money for their shareholders. So that's

51:29

the incentive at the basic level. But then you

51:31

look at people like Bill Gates. This

51:33

is a man who's got more wealth than anybody

51:36

could ever possibly know what to do. I don't

51:38

believe it's about money anymore for people like Bill

51:40

Gates. I believe it's about control. And

51:43

you can really discern that just from what

51:45

they're saying publicly. But is it, wait, but

51:47

it's not control

51:49

just because ha ha ha.

51:53

It's an ideology that he has

51:55

believed in for a long time.

51:57

We have to reduce the population.

52:00

He's doing it for all of these

52:02

reasons but he's not being

52:04

honest with anybody. He's not coming out and

52:06

saying those. He's eating around

52:09

the fringes of it. When you listen to

52:11

his speeches, you can put them together and

52:13

go, oh my gosh. But

52:16

he'd deny that. Of course. No

52:18

totalitarian with any sense ever said,

52:20

hey guys, I want to control your life. Hey

52:22

guys, I want to take a lot of your

52:24

money. I want to control what you do on

52:27

your phone. No totalitarian ever said that. It's always

52:29

packaged as, this is for your benefit. It's because

52:31

I love you. It's because I know better. To

52:34

go back to the Bible, Satan disguises himself as an

52:36

angel of light. You'd be a lot less

52:38

likely to fall for it if he showed up with some devil horns

52:40

and a red tail. And he never does. And

52:42

he never does. Talk

52:44

to me about the 50 in 5 plan. So

52:47

the UN has partnered with Bill Gates on

52:50

this, what they call digital public infrastructure.

52:54

Very fancy term. I think the

52:56

simplest way to understand it is they're building

52:58

a giant digital Google Ag for all of

53:00

humanity. So the UN development program has

53:02

officially launched this. It was officially launched at the

53:04

end of last year where they're going to get

53:06

50 government, they call them countries, but really they

53:08

mean government, who impose at

53:10

least some major element of this digital

53:12

public infrastructure on their population within

53:14

five years. That's only 24. Digital

53:18

IDs. And those are already emerging.

53:20

In fact, many states are developing these. I just

53:22

went through the airport yesterday. You can

53:24

scan your digital ID, QR code, right? So that's

53:26

happening. That's really

53:28

one of the main reasons for

53:31

the COVID nonsense. The

53:33

architecture that was laid down is the backbone

53:36

of this global control grid that they're building.

53:38

So then you've got the central bank digital currencies,

53:40

which are already being unveiled. They've already been released.

53:43

The World Economic Forum just set a few days

53:45

ago. Ninety eight percent of the governments, the central

53:47

banks in the world are working on these CBDCs.

53:50

Once they're fully operational, I guarantee you they're going

53:52

to start waging war on cash much more openly.

53:54

They'll say it's a tool for terrorists and pimps

53:57

and every nasty thing. You can tax

53:59

cheats. everything you can think of. Then

54:02

you've got the payment processing systems

54:04

and you've also got, we

54:06

just had the head of the World

54:08

Health Organization talk about this recently, the

54:10

Digital Health Certificates, the Digital Vaccine Passports.

54:13

They're taking what the EU developed during the

54:16

COVID, which by the way, the European Commission

54:18

was promoting vaccine passports in May of 2019,

54:22

long before anybody ever heard of COVID or

54:24

anything like that. So they're taking all of

54:26

this together and they are

54:28

using it to build a control system

54:30

that will not just be able to

54:32

surveil and monitor everything you do on

54:35

an unprecedented scale when you combine it

54:37

with AI, the ability to make sense

54:39

of all this data, it's just mind

54:41

blowing, but also to manipulate

54:43

what you do. And so they're talking

54:46

about this again pretty openly. If you look

54:48

at the World Economic Forum meetings, they talk

54:50

about the benefits of programmable central bank digital

54:52

currency, where they will be able to say

54:54

who can buy what, when under what conditions,

54:56

and then the Bank for International Settlements. Carol

54:58

Quigley, to go back to him for a

55:01

moment, Bill Clinton's mentor,

55:03

the guy who really exposed this global

55:05

agenda to create a one world system,

55:07

he said the apex of the system

55:10

was gonna be the Bank for International Settlements.

55:12

This is an institution that's almost entirely unknown

55:14

to Americans. And what they are

55:16

working on right now, and this is not a secret,

55:18

it's not a conspiracy because it's not happening behind closed

55:20

doors, is what they call

55:22

a universal blockchain ledger. They wanna

55:25

tokenize every asset in the known

55:27

universe, every farm, every car, every

55:30

house, every tree, put

55:32

it on this ledger, this blockchain ledger,

55:34

and then you're only able to interact

55:36

with this blockchain ledger using your biometric

55:38

digital ID, using your central

55:40

bank digital currencies. And so if I wanna buy something

55:43

from you, I can't just hand you a hundred dollar

55:45

bill. I've gotta go on my device, connect

55:47

to this blockchain system, transfer the central

55:49

bank digital currencies to you. And so

55:52

this is a mechanism for controlling humanity

55:54

that I think is really unprecedented in

55:56

human history. And when you take it

55:58

all together, it's very- So,

56:07

I said this to an atheist the

56:09

other day when we were talking about this. And

56:12

I said, I don't know if you've ever read the Bible, but

56:16

this sounds familiar. Two

56:19

thousand years ago, this system

56:23

sounds like the system that would be

56:26

used by the antichrist,

56:29

where there's nowhere you can

56:31

go, there's nothing you can

56:33

buy or sell unless

56:35

you have the mark of the beast,

56:37

as it's referred to there. But

56:40

I'm not saying this is the mark of

56:42

the beast, but I'm saying this is

56:45

exactly what's described, correct?

56:48

Absolutely. If you go to Revelation chapter 13,

56:50

you have this description that two thousand years

56:52

ago, it must have really sounded silly. I

56:54

remember reading it in the 70s when I

56:56

was a kid, thinking, that'll

56:59

never happen. Imagine two thousand

57:01

years ago before computers, before

57:04

any of this, the

57:06

system, the Bible says will force

57:08

everybody, great and small, rich

57:10

and poor, to take this mark to buy or

57:12

sell anything. And again,

57:14

two thousand years ago, that must

57:17

have sounded positively ludicrous. Well, today

57:19

we see at least technologically how

57:21

this would not just be possible, but we're headed

57:23

in that direction. Like you, I don't purport to

57:25

know what might be the mark of the beast.

57:28

I certainly don't claim this is. But

57:31

you see the architecture being laid down

57:33

where a situation could emerge, where people

57:35

could be prevented from buying or selling

57:38

if they won't participate. And so, you know, right

57:40

now, I mentioned Sweden, you've got thousands of people

57:43

in Sweden who have microchips embedded

57:45

in their hand. A lot of this happened during Covid.

57:47

You know, for the first couple of years of Covid,

57:49

the government really took a hands off approach. It was

57:51

probably the freest country in the world when it came

57:53

to Covid. But then they got a new government and

57:55

they started with the vaccine passports. Oh, you're kidding me.

57:57

I didn't know that. Yes. And people got microchips. And

58:00

this had already started a little bit before COVID.

58:02

You could pay for your train fare. You could

58:04

use it as your keys and your ID. So

58:07

it's just implanted just under the screen and the

58:09

hand or the forehead. Yeah, right. You have a

58:11

forehead. You know, you look at

58:13

Neuralink and you think there's a lot of interesting stuff going.

58:17

Yeah. So how

58:22

do you stop this?

58:24

I mean, with AI, with all

58:27

of the brains already

58:29

working on the other side, with

58:32

the governments all falling in line, with

58:35

the media all

58:37

backing that up,

58:41

how do you stand

58:43

without a

58:45

bloody, bloody war? Have

58:48

you thought about the strategies of getting and

58:52

reversing this without and

58:55

winning? Well,

58:57

I think there's a lot of different possibilities

59:00

here. And I would say it begins with

59:02

us as individuals. We have to change our

59:04

shopping habits. We have to do our best

59:06

to stop doing business with people who hate

59:08

us and want to destroy us and start

59:10

doing business with people who share our values

59:13

in our own families. And I think this

59:15

is critical. I would argue

59:17

that one of the main tools that these elitists

59:19

have at their disposal to move humanity in the

59:21

direction that they want us to go is the

59:23

government school system. So I

59:26

would urge parents to think long and hard

59:28

about the kind of education you choose for

59:30

your children. It's one of the most important

59:32

decisions you will make in your life. And

59:34

you can prove that the people who created

59:36

this system, who are running this system, do

59:39

not agree with your values, are consciously working

59:41

to undermine the system of government that we

59:43

have here and to bring out this kind

59:46

of global order and undermine the family. Absolutely.

59:48

I mean, that's one of the primary goals.

59:50

And frankly, it always has been if you

59:52

go back and look at the history of

59:55

how this system emerged. So

59:57

when it comes to the education of your children, pray.

1:00:00

and think about it long and hard. It's one of the

1:00:02

most important things you're going to do in your life. And

1:00:04

then, you know, at the community and at the state level,

1:00:06

we have a lot of options left to us. So, take

1:00:08

the CBDCs, for example. I'm from Florida. We

1:00:11

have passed a law banning central bank digital

1:00:13

currencies. Here in the state of Texas, you

1:00:15

guys have a gold bullion depository. I've

1:00:18

interviewed some of your legislators. Mark Duratio,

1:00:20

they have a bill that's going to

1:00:22

turn this depository into a

1:00:25

mechanism that will facilitate commerce using gold

1:00:27

and debit cards. So, there's a lot

1:00:29

of things we can do at the

1:00:31

state level. And during COVID, you

1:00:33

know, this is a really good example. I

1:00:35

live in a fairly rural county in

1:00:37

Florida, very conservative. We have very

1:00:40

decent people on our county commission

1:00:42

and our city council, our governor and our legislature

1:00:44

all kind of were united and were not going

1:00:46

along with this change. They flirted with it a

1:00:48

little bit early on. But in my part of

1:00:51

the state, we had basically life

1:00:53

as normal for people who wanted to live

1:00:55

life as normal and our institutions weren't shut

1:00:57

down. We were never forced to put masks

1:00:59

on our face. We're then,

1:01:02

you know, fly to California or Illinois

1:01:04

in New York and it was just

1:01:06

this dystopian, tyrannical system. So, we need

1:01:08

to develop. There's still, because we have

1:01:10

family up in the New York area, and

1:01:15

they're still just freaked

1:01:18

out by everything. They

1:01:20

have fundamentally changed as

1:01:23

people because of that experience. You're in

1:01:25

Texas, you in Florida. We

1:01:27

didn't. We didn't. We went

1:01:30

through some trouble and we have

1:01:33

maybe woken up a little bit

1:01:35

more. But they have

1:01:37

this weird,

1:01:39

weird fear. That's

1:01:42

a critical thing right there. We must say

1:01:44

no to the fear. It's so important. You're

1:01:46

absolutely right. They change the way people think.

1:01:49

I mean, they turn people against their own

1:01:51

families. You can't come to Thanksgiving dinner if

1:01:53

you won't take the shot. What? What kind

1:01:55

of craziness is that? So, we have to

1:01:58

reject the fear and we have to. to

1:02:00

work in the political process at the local, at

1:02:02

the state level. And to go back to the

1:02:04

Constitution, two of our

1:02:06

most important founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson, the primary

1:02:08

author of the Declaration of Independence, James Madison,

1:02:11

known as the father of our Constitution. Early

1:02:13

on in our history, we had the Alien and Sedition

1:02:15

Acts, where the federal government got

1:02:18

a little bit too excited and they

1:02:20

passed laws that were clearly unconstitutional. And

1:02:22

so Madison and Jefferson created

1:02:24

the Virginia and the Kentucky Resolutions. This

1:02:28

was basically saying, look, we are

1:02:30

not going to allow this. And

1:02:32

they both said the rightful remedy

1:02:34

to federal abuses of the powers

1:02:36

that were delegated to them under

1:02:38

the Constitution was for the states

1:02:40

to inter... Even Alexander Hamilton, like

1:02:42

the ultimate federal supremacist among our

1:02:45

founders, said that states could refuse

1:02:47

to cooperate with officers of the Union if and

1:02:49

when things got really bad. So

1:02:51

we have a lot of states right

1:02:53

now, the Louisiana Senate just voted unanimously to

1:02:55

ban these World Health Organization power grabs within

1:02:58

their states. So if we had 25 or

1:03:00

30 Republican controlled states say, look, we're not

1:03:02

going to participate with the central bank digital

1:03:04

currencies, we're not going to participate with the

1:03:07

digital IDs, we're not going to allow you

1:03:09

to shut down our power plants and take

1:03:11

over the farms, it would

1:03:13

be really tough for Washington, D.C. to be

1:03:15

able to impose its will on all these

1:03:17

states. But we need the political pressure from

1:03:19

the public to light a fire under the

1:03:21

high needs of our state officials to hold

1:03:24

this back. Let me play devil's advocate here.

1:03:27

That's all well and good until the federal government says,

1:03:29

fine, you don't get any money. We

1:03:32

are so... Our states are so

1:03:34

addicted to federal monies that...

1:03:38

I mean, how long did we all drive

1:03:40

at 55? How

1:03:43

long did it take Montana

1:03:46

that has a minimum speed limit

1:03:48

of 45 in places and

1:03:50

really no maximum speed

1:03:53

limit because it's different. I

1:03:55

remember going there driving, you know, 80, 90

1:03:58

miles an hour because it was reasonable. straight

1:04:00

flat and then having to go

1:04:02

back and driving 55. He

1:04:04

was like, this is insane. It was all about money. And

1:04:07

you're right, that is one of the crucial

1:04:10

mechanisms that the federal government has used to

1:04:12

bring our states on board with this agenda

1:04:14

and not just on speed, on education, on

1:04:17

energy policy, on transportation. All

1:04:19

these different sectors have really been hijacked by

1:04:21

the federal government. That's how they brought Common

1:04:23

Core in, right? They used federal grants to

1:04:25

convince our states to get on board. And

1:04:27

so I think we're going to need states

1:04:29

to stand up and say, look, we're

1:04:31

not trading our sovereignty. We're not trading

1:04:34

our liberty for money. And

1:04:36

you'll get some constituents who will say, well, that's our tax

1:04:38

money. We demand that you take it. But

1:04:40

it's going to have to start at some point. And

1:04:43

states are going to have to say, look, that's our line in the sand. Take

1:04:46

the transgender thing that's blowing up

1:04:48

right now. The Biden administration has

1:04:50

imposed these new understandings of really

1:04:53

decades old laws to try to force

1:04:55

the transgender issue on every school. Well,

1:04:58

if Tennessee and Oklahoma and Montana and

1:05:00

Idaho and Florida and Texas and South Dakota

1:05:02

and North Dakota all said, yeah, keep your

1:05:04

money, we're not going to do that. What's

1:05:07

the federal government going to do? It would be

1:05:10

a really powerful example. It

1:05:12

would be a really powerful check on federal

1:05:14

authority. And at some point, all the Republican,

1:05:16

right now the House is supposedly under Republican

1:05:19

control. All they got to do

1:05:21

is next time the budget comes around and say,

1:05:23

look, no more funding for the federal government to

1:05:25

bribe and bludgeon states into accepting these unconstitutional policies.

1:05:28

Absolutely. Absolutely. We

1:05:31

seem to be the

1:05:38

pace of the federal government gaining

1:05:41

and creating more and more

1:05:44

power has been

1:05:46

breathtaking in the last few weeks,

1:05:48

especially. All

1:05:51

of this stuff, they, they, you ban

1:05:53

TikTok has to sell. But

1:05:56

then in the same bill, it

1:05:58

doesn't stop the new. owner from

1:06:00

transferring all of that information on all

1:06:03

of us to China.

1:06:06

So what the hell was that? The

1:06:11

laws that are being, not laws,

1:06:14

the regulations that are

1:06:16

just being pulled up, pretty much making

1:06:19

it to where it's the Soviet Union

1:06:21

to where you show me the man,

1:06:24

I'll show you the crime. How

1:06:28

do you, have you

1:06:30

wargamed this out enough to see an

1:06:32

end game? Because

1:06:37

at some point, as you say, it's

1:06:39

boiling up, at some point an event

1:06:41

happens that just sets all

1:06:44

of this into motion. Are

1:06:49

you, how are you seeing

1:06:51

that happening? Are we close?

1:06:55

I mean, could the election be

1:06:57

used? Is

1:07:00

it the dollar that could collapse? What

1:07:02

is your main concern on turning

1:07:04

this machine on fully? Yeah,

1:07:08

the use of crises as a mechanism to

1:07:10

grab enormous amounts of power, this is not

1:07:12

a new innovation. We all remember Romy Manuel

1:07:14

saying crises are a great opportunity. Oh yeah,

1:07:17

two things you didn't think you could do

1:07:19

before. If you go back 200 years, you

1:07:21

look at the great French philosopher, lawmaker, Frederick

1:07:23

Bastiat. He was identified this back

1:07:26

then, these totalitarianists that are using the same

1:07:28

laboratory to concoct the poison and the antidote.

1:07:30

So we see that today, back

1:07:32

in the summer of 2022, I started, I wrote a talk that

1:07:34

I started giving

1:07:37

around the country about how these evildoers

1:07:39

use crises to move the ball down

1:07:41

the line. And

1:07:43

shortly after that, at the beginning of 2023, the

1:07:45

World Economic Forum put out a big piece on

1:07:48

how we were headed toward a poly-crisis

1:07:50

and that this poly-crisis was going to require

1:07:53

allegedly these big expansions of government power. And

1:07:55

so I think that's coming. I fully expect

1:07:57

a currency crisis, an economic crisis. economic crisis,

1:07:59

I mean we're dealing with the border crisis,

1:08:03

I think there's a very real chance that we'll see a

1:08:05

crisis when it comes to our energy grid

1:08:08

either because of the regulations that the Obama

1:08:10

administration and the Biden administration imposed or, you

1:08:12

know, a hack, a cyber attack of some

1:08:14

sort. So... There's a thousand

1:08:17

ways catastrophic failure

1:08:19

could happen. Absolutely. And

1:08:21

then they will use that as the pretext to say,

1:08:23

well, we're going to save you from this. All

1:08:26

you got to do is give up your money, give up your freedom and we're going

1:08:28

to protect you. And we're going to save

1:08:30

the free market system by violating the free market

1:08:32

system. Yep. And so that's

1:08:35

what they do. And the sooner people

1:08:37

understand that scam, the sooner they can,

1:08:40

when it comes, say, no, we're not going to

1:08:42

give up our freedom in exchange for... This

1:08:44

is something that the founding fathers talked about, right? Well, if

1:08:46

you give up your freedom for security, you're going to

1:08:49

end up with neither. It's just common sense

1:08:51

that totalitarians are not actually interested in

1:08:53

your security or your safety. They're interested in their

1:08:56

power. And so it goes back

1:08:58

to the fear thing. We have to stop

1:09:00

allowing them to scare us. And

1:09:02

we have to recognize the patterns that

1:09:05

they use. I fully expect a series

1:09:07

of major crises, the 2024 election, maybe

1:09:09

the catalyst. And to

1:09:11

go back to the establishment for a moment, they

1:09:13

war-gamed this out. Back in the early 1960s,

1:09:15

the State Department commissioned a report. They hired

1:09:17

a guy called Lincoln Bloomfield, a member of

1:09:20

the CFR, to work on this report. He

1:09:22

had been involved with the OSS, the precursor

1:09:24

of the CIA. And the

1:09:26

report, the title of the report gives it all

1:09:28

away. It was a world effectively controlled by the

1:09:30

United Nations. And it was supposed to be,

1:09:32

you know, how do we figure out how to go from

1:09:34

basically the Westphalian system of sovereign nation

1:09:36

states to this one world system controlled

1:09:39

by the UN. And

1:09:41

he concluded in there, people can get this

1:09:43

report, the fastest way to get there would

1:09:45

be to use war, the threat of war,

1:09:47

and crises. That's what's going to

1:09:49

change people's attitudes. That's what's going to enable them to

1:09:51

do this. And so when we understand

1:09:53

that, we're expecting them to do that, and then

1:09:56

we can push back. Are

1:09:58

you optimistic? It

1:10:01

depends on what day you ask me. Yeah. For

1:10:04

me, it depends on what time you're asking

1:10:06

me. I mean, you change throughout the day.

1:10:09

And you look at the enormity of what

1:10:11

we're facing. It's just sometimes overwhelming. The

1:10:14

forces arrayed against humanity,

1:10:16

against human liberty, against the United States

1:10:18

of America are almost incomprehensible.

1:10:20

There's so much money and so much

1:10:23

power arrayed against everything that we hold

1:10:25

dear. And then

1:10:27

I just say, but God. And

1:10:29

I believe in the sovereignty of God. So yes,

1:10:32

these people are very powerful. They've got a lot of money.

1:10:34

They've got a lot of influence. But God.

1:10:37

And so I don't know where this is going. I

1:10:40

like to be optimistic, but I don't think

1:10:42

it's right to just be foolishly

1:10:44

optimistic. I think it makes sense to prepare

1:10:46

for tough times. Proverbs talks about the wise

1:10:48

man sees trouble coming and prepares himself. It

1:10:51

makes prudent precautions. So I think we need

1:10:53

to operate with that understanding, not out of

1:10:55

a sense of fear, out of a sense

1:10:57

of love for our families, for our neighbors.

1:11:01

But regardless, even if I was 100%

1:11:03

convinced it was over and I'm not

1:11:05

at all, I do think we can

1:11:07

still stop this evil. But

1:11:10

even if I was 100% convinced we were going to lose,

1:11:12

I would probably be doing the same thing. Me

1:11:14

too. We have to stand for truth. We have

1:11:16

to stand for what's right. And we'll trust God with the results. Yeah.

1:11:20

It's interesting. I was much

1:11:23

more on edge

1:11:29

really before COVID because

1:11:33

I hadn't completely surrendered but

1:11:35

God. And

1:11:37

once you do

1:11:40

and you realize your responsibility, he's

1:11:42

not coming in and doing it.

1:11:45

He's not a helicopter parrot. You

1:11:47

got to do your homework. Because he'll let

1:11:50

you sit with that grade at the end. But

1:11:54

I've come to this place that I

1:11:58

trust him so much. know that

1:12:01

he's going

1:12:05

to let us sit and learn from our

1:12:07

lessons because that's what a good dad does. But

1:12:12

in the end, it's amazing,

1:12:14

Jesus was a carpenter and

1:12:17

it's perfect for me at least in

1:12:19

my head, the analogy of a carpenter,

1:12:22

you're sawing wood, there's

1:12:24

sawdust on the floor. But with

1:12:26

God, there's no sawdust on

1:12:29

the floor, there's no waste, even

1:12:31

the bad cuts that you make in wood

1:12:33

that you're like, gotta throw that one out,

1:12:37

he doesn't. When God, all

1:12:39

of the bad will turn

1:12:41

out to be for our good and

1:12:44

when you can get to that point

1:12:48

and surrender to all

1:12:52

I can control is me, my emotions

1:12:54

and how I live and

1:12:57

the best thing I can do to serve

1:12:59

God is to serve my fellow

1:13:02

man and be

1:13:04

a good example because that

1:13:07

is going to be hard. I've said this for 25

1:13:10

years that I believe my audience is going

1:13:12

to, even if

1:13:18

it's in fragments, it will

1:13:20

be there to save the

1:13:23

Republic, the ideas of the Republic

1:13:28

just by being good.

1:13:32

When everyone is freaking, if you

1:13:34

have the knowledge and

1:13:37

you've already come to that place

1:13:39

spiritually, you're like, God, when

1:13:42

everybody's freaking, you can say,

1:13:44

no, no, no, don't go that way. Knowing that

1:13:46

a lot of people will go that way, but you'll

1:13:50

be able to pull some people in

1:13:52

the right direction and protect and

1:13:55

save those fragments. When

1:13:58

you look back to the Old Testament, I encourage

1:14:00

people to read the Old Testament.

1:14:03

There are so many examples of

1:14:05

these battles that look absolutely impossible.

1:14:08

God steps in and helps. You

1:14:11

look at Gideon, for example. God

1:14:13

takes 300 men and crushes this massive army

1:14:16

that had come against God's people. If

1:14:19

we do what we are responsible for, we can

1:14:21

trust God with the rest. I

1:14:23

also encourage people to just look back at the

1:14:26

history of God's people resisting

1:14:28

evil. Daniel chapter

1:14:30

3, I think, is something that all of

1:14:32

us need to go back and revisit. God's

1:14:35

people are in captivity in Babylon under

1:14:37

King Nebuchadnezzar, and he's got this big

1:14:39

golden statue, and he commands that everybody

1:14:41

bow down and worship it when the

1:14:44

music plays. And Shadrach,

1:14:46

Meshach, and Bennego respond and say, look, Cain, we're

1:14:48

not even careful to answer you on this. Our

1:14:51

God can protect us. But

1:14:53

even if He doesn't protect us, we're

1:14:55

still not going to bow down to

1:14:57

your golden idol. And if

1:14:59

more Christians, if more God-fearing people in

1:15:01

this country took that attitude, look,

1:15:04

our God is strong enough to protect us. But even

1:15:06

if He doesn't, we're still not going to bow down

1:15:08

to this giant gold. It's not going to be a

1:15:11

golden statue for us. It might be something different. But

1:15:13

it would be just our job. Right.

1:15:16

Whatever it is, whatever thing that we're being told we

1:15:18

have to bow down to that God has commanded us

1:15:20

not to do, if we stand on

1:15:22

truth, if we trust in God, we

1:15:25

can be confident that no matter what happens, it's going

1:15:27

to work out. And that doesn't mean God's necessarily going

1:15:29

to protect us from the fiery furnace. There

1:15:31

may be serious consequences of saying, no, I'm not going

1:15:33

to bow down to the golden idol. But

1:15:36

if more people learned to trust

1:15:38

God, like Shadrach, Meshach, and Bennego trust

1:15:40

in God, like you just described, your

1:15:42

trust in God, I

1:15:45

think it would give us the backbone. It would

1:15:47

give us the courage to do what's necessary. And

1:15:49

our history is that. You

1:15:52

look at our founding fathers. They

1:15:54

quoted the Bible more than anything else. They had faith

1:15:57

in God and divine providence, and they took

1:15:59

it. took on the most powerful

1:16:01

military power in the world and

1:16:03

they won. Yeah. And

1:16:06

part of the reason of that is George

1:16:08

Washington knew, this is where the

1:16:10

Purple Heart comes from, badge of

1:16:12

merit. Do something that will

1:16:15

find favor in the eyes of the

1:16:17

Lord. Do something, you

1:16:19

know, help people. Be

1:16:21

good. You know, if

1:16:24

we exercise that, that sounds so ridiculous.

1:16:26

It sounds like, hey, why don't you

1:16:28

march around these walls for three days

1:16:31

with a draft. You know what I

1:16:33

mean? It sounds ridiculous, but

1:16:35

it does, you know. Overcome

1:16:38

evil with good. Love your enemies. They're

1:16:40

so counterintuitive. And yet, that's what God

1:16:42

told us to do and the power

1:16:44

of that is unbelievable. I have to

1:16:46

tell you, my staff reminded

1:16:48

me when we were going

1:16:50

over, you know, all the things I wanted

1:16:53

to talk to you about and

1:16:55

they said, do you remember this? Do

1:16:57

you remember this? Do you remember this? I

1:16:59

think you may be the

1:17:02

writer that I have

1:17:06

sent to my producers and said

1:17:08

read this, read this,

1:17:10

read this. I'm not sure,

1:17:13

but you're at least probably in the

1:17:15

top three. I think you're by far

1:17:17

number one actually. I appreciate it. I

1:17:19

love taking your stuff and using

1:17:22

it as an example of

1:17:24

this is right. This is

1:17:26

the right direction. This guy gets

1:17:28

it. So thank you for everything that

1:17:31

you do. Oh, thank you, Glenn. I appreciate it very much.

1:17:33

It's an honor to be here and thank you for all

1:17:35

that you've done for all these years for the truth and

1:17:37

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1:17:44

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