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2:06

to the fusion of entertainment

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and enlightenment. This

2:13

is the Glenn Beck program.

2:16

This is like the devil's comet, you know,

2:18

that you can see once every 200,000 years

2:22

or whatever it is. I mean, occasionally it

2:24

happens, you know. We're not usually around to

2:26

see it in our lifetime. I

2:28

mean, something big happened. In fact, stop the

2:30

music for a second. I need to make

2:32

an announcement. I

2:36

read an article in the New York Times

2:39

that I thought was

2:42

right. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

2:46

The end of a career, right? In front of your eye. I

2:48

mean, it's crazy. And when I share it with you, I think

2:51

you might agree. Somebody,

2:53

one lone person in the basement got a hold of

2:56

the press and was like, I've got to write some

2:58

stuff in here that's right. And

3:00

they went with it. I don't know how it

3:02

happened, but it's an amazing

3:05

assessment on what is really going

3:07

on. Too bad

3:09

none of these people at the New

3:11

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3:14

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is an editorial and it starts out, and I don't

4:23

know how to say her name miss ypi

4:27

It yippee. I hate to say that or

4:29

is it just P

4:32

or pie. I don't know but

4:34

anyway. She is a professor of political

4:37

theory already. I'm dismissing this

4:39

article and She's a

4:41

professor at political theory at the London

4:43

School of Economics. Okay. I'm done okay,

4:46

but I forced myself to read it I

4:49

Want you to listen to this she

4:51

gets it Europe

4:54

is awash with worry Ahead

4:56

of the parliamentary elections widely expected to

4:59

deliver gains to the hard right European

5:02

leaders can barely conceal their

5:04

anxiety in a speech

5:06

in late April president Emmanuel Macron of

5:08

France Captured the prevailing

5:10

mood after eloquently warning of threats

5:13

to the continent he pronounced the

5:15

need for a new newly powerful

5:17

Europe As

5:20

I watched the speech I was

5:22

reminded of Machiavelli's Comments in

5:24

the opening pages of the prince now

5:27

again what warded me off on this But

5:29

I wanted to understand the right or the

5:31

left is The headline

5:34

Europe is about to drown in the river

5:36

of the radical right Okay,

5:40

I hope that's not true Because

5:43

I'm not part of the radical right.

5:45

I'm part of the freedom constitutional right

5:49

So she goes to Machiavelli Here's what

5:51

she says when Machiavelli reflected on the

5:53

crisis of his time among them conflicts

5:55

between major European powers discontent

5:57

with public officials and the

6:00

collapsing legitimacy of the Catholic Church,

6:02

he turned to the Roman Republic for

6:05

inspiration. When

6:07

there's skepticism about values,

6:09

he wrote, history is

6:11

our only remaining guide.

6:14

Well, why do you think people are

6:16

taking on history and trying to destroy it? When

6:20

you don't have values and everything

6:22

around you is collapsing, you must

6:24

go back and see what's been

6:26

done before. So

6:28

history is our only guide. The

6:30

secret to Roman freedom, he

6:33

explained, was neither its

6:35

good fortune nor its military

6:37

might. Instead, it

6:40

lay in the Romans' abilities to

6:42

mediate the conflict between the wealthy

6:44

elites and the vast majority

6:46

of people, or as he

6:49

put it, il grandi and

6:51

il popolo, the

6:54

great and the people. While

6:57

the inherent tendency of the great,

7:00

Machiavelli argued, is to accumulate wealth

7:02

and power to rule the rest,

7:05

the inherent desire of the people

7:07

is to avoid being at the

7:09

elite's mercy. Makes sense,

7:11

right? The elites, they're

7:13

interested in power and money. Everybody

7:16

else is like, you know, that's fine, but I

7:18

don't want to be ruled over by

7:20

you with a cruel hand. The

7:24

clash between the groups generally pulled

7:27

politics in opposite directions,

7:30

yet the Roman Republic had an

7:32

institution, the Tribune of the Plebes,

7:34

that sought to empower the people

7:37

and contain the elites. Only

7:41

by channeling rather than

7:44

suppressing this conflict, Machiavelli

7:46

said, could civic freedom be

7:49

preserved. So

7:51

you don't crush this, you

7:54

channel it, you find a

7:56

way to broker between the two. writes,

8:00

has not heeded his advice.

8:02

For all the democratic rhetoric,

8:04

the European Union is closer

8:06

to an oligarchic institution overseen

8:09

by an unelected body of

8:12

technocrats in the European Commission.

8:14

The block allows for no

8:17

popular consultation on policy,

8:19

let alone participation. Its

8:21

fiscal rules, which impose strict limits

8:23

on the budgets of member states,

8:26

offer protection for the rich while

8:28

imposing austerity on the poor. From

8:31

top to bottom, Europe is

8:33

dominated by the interests of the

8:35

wealthy few who restrict the freedom

8:37

of the many. Its

8:39

predicament, of course, is not

8:41

unique. Businesses, financial

8:43

institutions, credit rating agencies,

8:46

powerful interest groups call

8:48

the shots everywhere, severely

8:51

constraining the power of politicians.

8:54

The European Union is far from

8:56

the worst offender. Still,

8:59

in nation states, the

9:01

semblance of a democratic

9:03

participation can be sustained

9:05

through allegiance to a

9:07

shared constitution. In

9:10

the European Union, whose founding myth is

9:13

the free market, the case is much

9:15

harder to make. The

9:17

transitional character of the block is

9:19

often supposed to be behind European's

9:21

dislike of it. Yet there

9:24

are those who resist the current European Union,

9:26

and they do not do so because it's

9:31

too cosmopolitan. Very

9:33

simply and not unreasonably, they

9:35

resist it because it fails

9:38

to represent them. The

9:41

parliament for which the Europeans will be voting

9:43

next month to take one glaring example of

9:45

the block's lack of democracy has little legislative

9:47

power on its own. It

9:49

tends to merely rubber stamp decisions

9:52

made by commissions. It

9:54

is this representative gap that is filled

9:56

by the radical right, turning

9:58

the problem into a to simple binaries.

10:02

Either you're with them, the state or

10:04

Europe, or you're with the white worker

10:06

or the migrant. With an exception of

10:08

that line, I've agreed with everything she

10:11

has written. It is

10:13

perhaps surprising that the bloc's democratic deficit

10:15

has become a rallying cry for the

10:17

radical right, but it explains

10:20

much of its success. A recent

10:22

poll, for example, showed the European

10:24

citizens are much more concerned about

10:26

poverty, jobs, thriving standards, and climate

10:29

change than they are about migration.

10:32

This suggests that the appeal

10:34

of the radical right lies

10:36

less in its obsessive hostility

10:38

to migrants than in its

10:40

criticism of the bloc's failure

10:42

to address people's everyday concerns.

10:45

European politicians could seek to

10:47

remedy that by changing institutions

10:49

to improve citizens' bargaining power

10:51

and make them feel heard.

10:54

Instead, they prefer to give stern

10:57

lectures. If European

10:59

politicians are increasingly trapped

11:01

in emergency management, it's

11:03

because they have failed in the

11:05

first tasks of politics worthy of

11:07

the name, to diagnose

11:10

the cause of crisis, to

11:12

explain who's represented and who

11:14

is excluded, and to defend

11:16

those whose freedom is endangered.

11:19

The politics of the people presented by

11:21

the radical right may be narrowly

11:25

ethnocentric, but

11:27

it is the only one to

11:30

offer one that speaks directly to

11:32

the people's disillusionment. Our

11:34

modern princes may choose to look away,

11:37

yet as long as the radical

11:39

right continues to dominate the terms

11:41

of mainstream debate, while its historical

11:43

roots are discreetly ignored,

11:46

no appeal to European values will stop the

11:48

river in which we're all about to drown.

11:52

Again, except for that last line, there's two

11:54

lines in here I don't necessarily agree with

11:56

because I don't know who

11:58

the right is. I

12:01

will tell you and I don't know how far the

12:04

right has gone down the road

12:06

with the far right, the racist

12:09

right in Europe. We all agree,

12:11

we all know that racists exist.

12:13

We can debate whether

12:16

the Nazis, they

12:18

are socialists, so we

12:21

can debate whether they're on the right or the left. I

12:24

believe they're on the left because they're

12:26

socialists. They don't believe in the Constitution

12:28

of the United States. That

12:30

separates me with

12:33

a bold, bold legal

12:35

line. Racism. You

12:37

can say that I'm a racist, but I'm not.

12:40

I'm not. How can I

12:42

fight for... Anyway. I'm

12:45

not a Nazi, but the left will deem

12:47

me and you and everybody else a Nazi

12:49

if we disagree with them. That's

12:52

an old trope from

12:54

Europe. You're either a

12:56

national socialist, a Nazi,

12:59

or you're a communist. I'm

13:02

neither. The

13:04

people on the right here in the country, for

13:06

the most part, are neither. We

13:08

want a constitutionally appointed

13:11

government and a

13:13

constitution that is the

13:15

same one we've been operating on for

13:17

over 200 years. There's

13:20

nothing wrong with that constitution. We just

13:22

don't adhere to it. But

13:25

what she's saying here is

13:27

true. This is what I've been saying for, I

13:29

don't know, how many years now, a couple of

13:31

years at least, that

13:33

this is not about left and

13:35

right. It's not about the

13:39

Constitution and racism

13:43

and taxes

13:45

and everything else. It's not. It's

13:48

about a bunch of people who

13:50

are in the elite class that

13:53

just outwardly

13:55

now say, we know

13:57

better. to

14:00

do it our way and if you

14:02

don't like it we'll punish you. That's

14:04

not a democracy, that's not

14:06

a republic, it's just not.

14:09

And it's not sustainable and that's

14:12

why people are feeling more and more like maybe

14:15

there's a civil war, God forbid,

14:17

a civil war, you know, in the next

14:19

five years. Why?

14:22

Because you cannot

14:25

push a free people into

14:28

servitude easily, nicely.

14:32

You eventually have to beat those who

14:34

are saying, no I'm not going there,

14:37

you don't have that right. You eventually

14:40

have to eliminate them, silence them or

14:42

kill them. This

14:47

person at the New York Times, believe

14:51

it or not, at the... I don't

14:53

know what her... I don't know, I'd love

14:55

to talk to her because this is this

14:57

is an op-ed where I say, okay, I

15:00

understand where you're coming now. So

15:04

can we sit down and actually have

15:06

a conversation? Because you seem,

15:08

at least in this one piece of writing, to

15:12

honestly be seeking what the

15:14

real problem is and you're

15:17

not just defaulting into thorough

15:19

Nazis. Because they're not.

15:22

Just because people in Great

15:26

Britain want to fly their

15:28

flag and not the EU, which

15:30

they have no emotional attachment

15:32

to, because they're

15:34

proud of their country. I

15:37

always think of Texans. Texans will always

15:39

say, where you from? I'm from

15:41

Kansas. Ah, it's

15:43

a great place. It's not Texas, but it's a great

15:45

place. That's

15:47

not xenophobia, that's

15:49

not arrogance.

15:52

That is a pride

15:54

for where you're from that

15:57

is appropriate. You're not denigrating

15:59

other places. You're just saying my place

16:01

is great. You got to see Texas That's

16:05

what Europeans are saying that

16:07

Germany is fine. It's great, but

16:10

it's not Italy They're

16:16

tired of people ruling over

16:18

them and we all

16:20

know it I can't say we all

16:22

know it I think 50% of

16:25

the count of the country is awake I don't

16:27

know what's wrong with the rest of the country.

16:29

I don't know how you don't see this at

16:32

this point. I Mean if

16:34

you have a suggestion on What

16:37

I'm missing What am I

16:39

missing to tell the American people or is it

16:41

just that they're not here? That

16:44

you know this audience gets it but for

16:47

some reason or another there the others are

16:49

just too You

16:51

know convinced of whatever and

16:53

just are not here, but I don't know what

16:55

I'm missing How

16:57

to talk to the American people and say

16:59

how do you not see this? You

17:03

don't want a government with more power Everything

17:07

that they told you I went through

17:09

this list yesterday. Hey banks are too

17:11

big to fail We got

17:13

to cut them down to size so they

17:15

passed all this legislation and have the banks

17:17

gotten smaller or bigger Who's

17:20

who's the bank that's being hurt the

17:22

ones that are part of the Federal

17:24

Reserve? The big banks

17:26

or the little guys that are your

17:28

neighborhood banks which one is more likely

17:31

to close Certainly

17:33

not Citibank Not

17:35

Bank of America. It's

17:37

most likely your little bank Are

17:41

are we are we closer to peace

17:43

today or nuclear

17:46

war We're

17:48

not closer to war We're

17:51

closer to nuclear war than we

17:53

have been probably since the 1980s

17:56

and that's happened in the last three years When

17:59

you ask yourself are we better off or

18:02

worse off as a nation are

18:04

we better off or worse off as

18:06

a city are you better off or

18:09

worse off your state better off or

18:11

worse off there are things that your state can

18:13

do Florida is a great example

18:15

of it but

18:17

those who are following the opposite

18:19

direction just look at Florida and

18:22

California to massive sunshine states which

18:25

one would you rather live in forget

18:28

the landscape

18:31

and the beauty I

18:34

think California wins in beauty and

18:36

it doesn't have humidity so it wins but

18:38

when you look past that which

18:42

one there's no way I

18:44

would live in California and

18:46

I would in a heartbeat in Florida

18:50

ones going for the Constitution and

18:52

common sense the other one is

18:55

going over the cliff of progressive

18:57

insanity back

18:59

in just a minute things

19:02

might be getting

19:04

much much worse in Israel before they

19:07

get to get before they become better

19:09

not only have the attacks increased but

19:11

from both Hamas and Hezbollah since October

19:14

7th they also just

19:17

understandably rejected the joke of a

19:19

ceasefire proposal coming in from Hamas

19:22

and they're planning on you know

19:24

continuing to fight the international

19:26

fellowship of Christians and Jews is there on

19:28

the ground in Israel helping in every way there

19:30

can they can look I want Israel to

19:32

be able to fight its own war I

19:35

don't want to be there but I do want to

19:37

support the innocent people I don't

19:39

understand why this is so controversial you

19:42

know everybody is going after Russia

19:46

and you want to help the Ukrainian

19:48

people well Israel

19:50

was the one that was attacked and

19:53

why are we helping them look

19:56

I don't want the government to do everything that we

19:58

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no better than the nazis uh...

24:58

and you know we

25:00

all have these conflicts

25:03

in us some bigger than other and

25:06

that we wanted to make sure that we

25:08

showed both sides of patent that we don't

25:10

we don't make anybody into a hero uh...

25:13

without showing this is the heroic stuff

25:15

they did and this is the questionable

25:17

or really bad stuff they did jeffrey

25:21

epstein's black book is

25:25

up for auction now

25:28

this is not the

25:30

book that he had when he died

25:32

this is a book from around the

25:34

year two thousand that he lost

25:37

somebody had it they found it in

25:39

the street of new york uh...

25:42

it's been verified that it is his

25:44

handwriting it is his book uh...

25:47

they picked it up and then just put

25:50

it in a box and left it in

25:52

a storage you know unit and

25:55

ever since this epstein thing has been going on

25:58

they're like i got a book about the book I know as

26:01

but where did I put that book they went through their storage

26:03

unit and found it then

26:05

they brought it to Alexander Historical Auctions

26:07

which is a really good auction house

26:10

and they they put it

26:13

up with unredacted names and

26:15

numbers you can't see

26:17

it you can go and you know visit

26:19

the book if you're interested in buying it

26:21

and look through it you can't take pictures

26:24

of it or anything else but the black

26:26

book is for sale they're saying it's gonna

26:28

go between 100

26:30

and 200 thousand dollars now

26:33

my question is is this

26:36

is this just a passing

26:39

big but it's still like a passing

26:41

blip like I'm really not interested in

26:44

the Lindbergh trial who

26:47

cares right you know I mean it

26:50

was a big thing at the time is this

26:52

a big thing just at the time and

26:56

what would change that I think is was

26:59

he or will we ever

27:01

find out he was an operative for

27:03

our government or other governments hmm

27:08

I don't know that's kind of the rumor right now

27:11

right yeah the CIA yeah what do

27:13

you what do you what's your first thought on

27:15

Epstein's book having it I mean I'd love

27:17

to I'd love to have it just to read the

27:19

names on the air yeah you'd have to believe though

27:21

there was you know it was like George

27:23

Soros like we'd already know about it

27:25

right I think yeah that page would

27:27

be missing right yeah exactly all the

27:30

S's are missing and the G's right

27:32

so I kind of think that there's

27:34

maybe not going to be a massive

27:36

story in it though it is an

27:38

incredible if I can if we were

27:40

considering really buying it I would send

27:42

somebody up to look through it and

27:44

tell me is there anything in it

27:46

I'm right worth you know

27:48

if it's like squeaky from I don't really care

27:50

it would be I would care squeaky from it on that

27:53

that would have been good I would be crazy yeah be

27:55

nuts yeah that's an interesting one I

27:57

mean because is it just here's a

27:59

guy who who did some really terrible things,

28:01

like Jeffrey Dahmer merchandise, you're not buying that.

28:04

Yeah, I'm not buying that. I'm not buying Michael Jackson stuff. Right.

28:07

I don't really... Would you buy O.J.'s stuff? Because

28:10

that was pretty big. Yeah. Yeah,

28:13

if it was something really big... That wasn't just a

28:15

flash in the pan. It was pretty big. But I

28:17

think that's the best... I have an O.J. Simpson baseball

28:19

card. That's all I have on the... A baseball card?

28:21

Oh, not baseball. Wow, that's incredible. That is a huge

28:24

story. Shut up. He played baseball. A

28:26

football card, yes. Yeah, I

28:28

mean, because I think O.J. is on the level

28:30

of Lindbergh, right, historically. Yeah,

28:32

historically. Like to us right now, obviously, it's

28:34

a lot bigger because it happened in the 90s.

28:36

Right. But, you know, in 50

28:39

years, I don't know that it's... The only thing that

28:41

would be worth in that is somehow or another finding

28:43

a way to capture the

28:49

African-American response to

28:51

O.J. setting him

28:53

free because he was

28:56

finally able to beat the man. Right.

28:59

And by the way, jurors from the trial have said that's

29:01

what they did. Yeah. Not glen... Right.

29:05

And so if you could capture that

29:07

because we're having the opposite right

29:09

now. You know, people

29:11

not looking at the facts

29:13

of anything because they want somebody to

29:16

win one way or another. And

29:19

so that is something to happen with jurors. And

29:21

so it would tell that story, but I don't

29:23

know how to capture that. And remember, you know,

29:25

the Epstein thing is tied into powerful people, even

29:27

if you just, you know, Prince Andrew, right? Like,

29:29

I mean, there's certainly... I don't know that he's

29:31

in that book per se, but I

29:33

will say that my instinct is, yes, you

29:35

should bet on it, largely because

29:37

I think one of the things you do at the

29:40

museum and is part of your mission

29:42

statement over there is to

29:44

preserve history that will be erased.

29:47

And man, the Epstein thing falls directly in

29:49

that category. Like we know about it right

29:52

now. And I don't

29:54

think we know the whole story. And

29:56

the powers that be will do everything they can to

29:58

make sure that goes down. some memory hole that

30:01

we don't remember it like the Lindberg case. They

30:04

want that to go away. So actually

30:07

preserving some of that history I think is a good

30:10

use of resources.

30:13

Of course, if it's, there's nothing interesting in it I

30:16

suppose maybe that's not the case but

30:19

man, I don't know. It seems like we still don't know

30:21

the story on that one. But don't let you see the

30:23

whole thing before you buy it. Yes. Wow.

30:27

You can go and make an appointment and

30:29

you can go up, I was thinking about sending Jason up

30:31

there and he can go up and

30:34

make an appointment and see

30:37

it, see what's in it. You

30:40

can't take a photograph of it and

30:43

no copies of it but you

30:45

can come back and then he could tell me

30:47

this is what's in it, these are the kinds

30:49

of names that are in it that

30:51

he could remember. You

30:54

need to send someone with a photographic memory. I

30:56

know. Do we have a listener with

30:58

a photographic memory? That would be great. I will say

31:01

it seems like if they're showing it to people

31:03

and we don't have any leakages

31:07

on the actual story. Well, they just announced

31:09

it yesterday. Okay. Yeah.

31:12

So at some point you'd think that the story would leak out

31:14

if there was something amazing in it. Not

31:16

necessarily because if you are qualified to go

31:18

see it, you're signed up to bid, you're

31:21

a buyer and if there's someone

31:23

else you don't want anybody to know. Well,

31:26

after you have it. Correct. They

31:28

each vary in length from only a few lines to over

31:30

10 or 15 lines or more

31:32

each. Each of the entries

31:34

have several more names included. Additionally, 94 names

31:37

bear black hand applied check marks.

31:40

Five have been highlighted in yellow. All

31:43

five names, including that of

31:45

President Donald Trump, interesting that that one

31:47

is out, are well

31:49

recognized financial and industrial figures.

31:52

The significance of the checked and highlighted

31:55

names is unknown. The details included in

31:57

the vast majority of the entries are

31:59

mostly unknown. extensive. Epstein

32:02

not only includes the contact

32:05

but in most cases also adds

32:07

other residential addresses and numbers, contact

32:09

information, family members, secretaries

32:11

of media, employees, associates, cell phone

32:13

numbers and at least

32:15

one instant contacts girlfriend's number.

32:18

There's a good deal of information hinting

32:20

at Epstein's sordid pass including the

32:23

very first entry contact information for

32:25

the front desk and five

32:27

apartment numbers corresponding with telephone

32:29

numbers at 301

32:31

E 66th Street. This address

32:34

was home for many young

32:36

models, girlfriends, pilots and lawyers

32:38

associated with Jeffrey Epstein.

32:42

The book contains entries for

32:45

former Ford models, CEO

32:48

Kate Ford as well as an

32:50

entry for Massouse which lists 24

32:53

women's names and numbers with pager numbers

32:55

as well. The history of this

32:57

criminal relic is fascinating the mid-1990s musician living in

33:00

Manhattan discovered the book lying on Fifth

33:02

Avenue sidewalk in midtown. She eventually

33:04

put it in storage was not until 2020 while

33:07

cleaning out her storage unit that she realized

33:09

it belonged to Jeffrey Epstein. She

33:11

reached out to several media outlets not this one

33:13

who failed to react assuming that

33:16

the book was a copy she listed

33:18

it on eBay where it was purchased

33:20

by a graduate student in the northeast who

33:23

has possessed it ever since.

33:29

For how much do we know how much?

33:31

Nope don't know. 2004 Epstein

33:34

Black book was discovered by the FBI

33:36

and used in legal proceedings but this

33:38

copy which came to light after Epstein's

33:41

death was not considered as evidentiary importance

33:43

at the time of its discovery. According

33:46

to Business Insider the 1731 names contained in the two

33:48

volumes together do

33:53

not appear in the 2004 book.

33:56

During its six-month investigation, Business Insider

33:58

journalists had respected forensic document

34:01

examiners, applied and

34:19

was in existence in the late 1990s. A

34:22

copy of that report is available. So

34:24

there's 1,700 names, but

34:28

we don't know why they're named. Nope.

34:30

We... That's interesting. What

34:32

they released, and it's interesting again,

34:36

they released Donald Trump and

34:38

Alan Dershowitz, as names in

34:40

this. Oh my gosh. Of course. Of course. Of

34:43

course. Of course. Donald Trump, Alan

34:45

Dershowitz, Frederick Fakai,

34:47

do you know who that is? F-E-K-K-A-I?

34:51

No. Christie Hefner and

34:53

Edward Kennedy. Huh.

34:58

Frederick Fakai, French hairstylist and

35:00

entrepreneur. Of course. Well,

35:02

who doesn't have a hair... a French hairstylist in their...

35:05

Blackbook. ...makes a bunch of products,

35:07

though. It seems like a big... It has a

35:09

big company making this stuff. It

35:11

appears... So what is your first thought? Yes or

35:13

no? Wow. Should we...

35:16

Can I tell you yes? Go look at it, or

35:18

you would consider buying it. Yeah, I'd look at it,

35:20

and then depending on the name... What is

35:22

significance in history? Long-term. What

35:26

dirtbags we had in office, I guess.

35:30

I mean, you're gonna find out some things

35:32

about people, right? Although, it doesn't say why...

35:34

Again, it doesn't say why they're in the

35:36

book. I mean, we know the Alan Dershowitz

35:38

thing, like we already know the person who

35:40

accused him came out and said, ah, maybe

35:42

it wasn't him. Yeah, he was

35:44

in there because he's the attorney. Right. So

35:47

it's not necessarily going to have... You don't know if it's gonna give you some

35:49

major story that's gonna change history. I will say,

35:51

though, that we're gonna... I'm

35:53

sorry, we do also know that Donald Trump threw him

35:56

out, right, of Mar-a-Lago. Yeah, they

35:58

had him falling out. Long time ago.

36:00

Because he was, you know, I guess

36:03

trying to recruit some of the females. And

36:06

Donald Trump said, get out, don't come back. Yeah,

36:08

no, they're definitely, the Trump thing is, I don't

36:11

know, I think it's a complete disconnect to the

36:13

Epstein story from long, long ago. But

36:16

I will say that otherwise it would have made political

36:18

hay out of that a long time ago. The

36:21

Clinton one is much more, I think, significant. Yeah. You

36:23

know, and that one is, and the

36:25

Gates. I wonder if... I think the Bill Gates

36:28

one too, you have to, some of his comments

36:30

have been written. Really weird about that. Really weird.

36:32

Really weird. His wife's.

36:34

I think Bill Gates has flown under

36:36

the radar as one of, you

36:38

know, just a weird quirky guy for

36:40

so long. I think he may

36:43

end up being one of the true villains

36:45

of our time. I think

36:47

that's quite possible. I think that's quite possible. Yeah.

36:50

Yeah. I mean, the things

36:52

that he wants to do on population

36:54

control, his connections there, his divorce from

36:56

his wife who was like, get

36:58

away from Jeffrey Epstein. We know who he is.

37:02

And he wouldn't get away from Jeffrey

37:04

Epstein and they divorced. That's kind

37:06

of a big deal. Kind of a big deal. Yeah.

37:09

When he's occasionally been pressed on that, it has

37:11

not gone well for Gates. We don't know what

37:13

happened there, but something weird was going on. Very.

37:17

Yeah. And, you know, he stole all the technology from

37:19

Xerox at the first place anyway. Yeah. So

37:21

my understanding. Pat Gray, thank you so much.

37:23

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that lasts a couple of weeks. We

46:40

want to make sure that these are the people that we

46:42

can recommend to you. realestateagentsitrust.com.

46:45

That's realestateagentsitrust.com. Carol

46:49

Rock, the author of the book, You

46:52

Will Own Nothing, a former investment banker.

46:55

Carol, last Friday, I think

46:58

it was, the jobs report came out. It

47:00

was much lower than expected and

47:02

I started seeing things like Bank of America

47:04

saying, we're in stagflation now. Are

47:06

we? If so, what is it and what does

47:08

it mean? Well, let's

47:10

first talk about some of these data points,

47:13

Glenn, and then we can go into stagflation.

47:16

First, we've seen a couple of bad

47:18

data points and as we've talked about

47:20

before, the data is garbage. We're

47:22

doing the best we can to interpret what

47:25

it is that they're telling us without any

47:27

sense of the actual reality

47:29

behind us. We saw

47:31

before the jobs report that the

47:33

first quarter GDP was down about

47:36

a percent lower than expectations, down to

47:38

1.6% on an annualized basis. Then

47:42

we get the April jobs report and

47:45

that is also down. It's the slowest

47:47

job gain that we've seen in, I

47:50

think, about six months. Again, if you believe

47:52

the data. What that

47:54

first is telling me is that all

47:56

of this money that the government has

47:58

spent to to basically

48:00

window dress the economy, to avoid the

48:03

double-dip recession. Because remember, we did have

48:05

a recession, two quarters of negative growth

48:07

back in 22, then

48:10

we popped out of it and we

48:12

sort of expected we might go down,

48:14

but the government ran these massive deficits

48:17

about two times the

48:19

historical average on a debt to GDP

48:21

basis that we would normally see, and

48:23

they tried to prop up the economy

48:25

so it wouldn't show that we were

48:27

in a recession, at a very expensive

48:29

cost by the way. Normally when you

48:31

have an expanding economy, you would see

48:34

a shrinking deficit, they have

48:36

done the opposite, they ran a big

48:38

deficit to try to create this appearance,

48:40

and with an interest rate financing that

48:42

deficit at the largest point

48:44

in 15 years. So

48:47

we know that we

48:49

are not getting a good return now

48:52

on this window dressing, and it

48:54

is not creating these amazing outcomes

48:56

for the economy, on

48:58

the GDP front, on the jobs front,

49:01

which again could turn around, it's one

49:03

set of data points which shift. Staxlation

49:06

is something that I've talked to

49:08

you about, I've been talking about

49:10

for years as a very possible

49:12

outcome here. And it's very

49:14

much what it sounds like. It is

49:17

when the economy stagnates, when

49:19

you have a low growth number,

49:22

but at the same time you

49:24

have inflation. So you have sort

49:26

of the worst of all worlds,

49:28

you're not making gains in productivity,

49:30

you're not making gains

49:32

in wages and things like that, the

49:34

economy's just hanging out, but you get

49:36

this long term sticky inflation, which

49:39

again we said was very likely

49:41

because the government continued to spend

49:43

at these massive levels, and they

49:45

were working against what the Fed

49:48

was trying to do to bring

49:50

down inflation. So they are actually

49:52

at this point, a likely cause

49:54

of long term inflation, because we

49:56

have to continue to finance these

49:59

massive deficits. And so

50:01

that's the reality of this sticky

50:03

situation. When you hear somebody like

50:05

JP Morgan's Jamie Dimon saying, I'm

50:07

worried that the economy is going

50:09

to look more like the 1970s

50:11

than anything else. This

50:14

is something that they experience, experienced at

50:17

that period of time. And he's seeing

50:19

those parallels, although we are in a

50:21

much worse fiscal situation from a fiscal

50:24

foundation standpoint than we were strangely

50:26

enough in the 1970s. Because of our deficit

50:28

in debt. Correct. Yeah.

50:31

So this means that jobs,

50:34

everything just is the

50:36

same. It doesn't get better. It

50:38

could get worse, but it doesn't generally get

50:40

better for the individual and prices

50:43

continue to go up, right? That's

50:45

what's happening. Correct. Yeah. You're

50:48

not seeing your growth in wages. You're not

50:50

seeing massive growth in companies. The economy just

50:52

sort of putters along. You're

50:55

not seeing the massive layoffs or things that

50:57

you might see with a

50:59

recession. Things are just kind of going

51:01

along, but not really growing at all.

51:04

And you're not seeing that leg at the

51:06

end of the tunnel. But at the same

51:08

time, we're encountering that ongoing sticky inflation that

51:11

we know destroys purchasing power and is really

51:13

born particularly by the middle and working

51:15

class. All right. So Carol, I

51:17

don't want to spend a lot of time on this because I have

51:19

a couple of other things. But you said at

51:22

the beginning of your conversation, you said, if you

51:25

believe the numbers. I don't

51:27

believe the numbers, but the only reason you

51:30

change and fudge numbers is not to stop

51:32

them from looking so good, but stop them

51:34

from looking so bad. And the

51:37

reason why I don't believe them is there's

51:39

just too many times where they've been adjusted.

51:42

And there's always adjustments, but not

51:44

like it has in the last year or so. There's

51:49

just contradictory information. If

51:52

you're somebody who's listening now and

51:54

you don't necessarily have

51:56

that, you don't think that The... Administration

52:00

would go that far in sake

52:02

numbers. What leads? You

52:04

to say if you believe these numbers. Well.

52:08

Like you said they have been a

52:10

lot of anomalies and the numbers and

52:12

you if you can't go back even

52:14

further in we've seen as the method

52:17

of calculation of these numbers that the

52:19

governmental level many times since the Nineteen

52:21

eighties. One of the things that you

52:23

have to remember for something what they

52:26

like inflation is that inflation feeds into

52:28

things. Like cost of living adjustment the

52:30

amount that the to increase social. Security

52:33

pay man realize that so there

52:35

is an actual reason why it

52:37

is that they would one of

52:39

the process number another piece of

52:41

data which I think is very

52:43

important is that entities an individual

52:45

have no longer once you participate

52:47

in government survey. The we have

52:49

seen as an absolute massive decline

52:51

in the participation of the data

52:53

that is being collected by the

52:55

government. Which means when they don't

52:58

have people and businesses responding there

53:00

are more by a season the

53:02

data because. Of the smaller subset of

53:04

people who wanted us and it means that

53:06

they have to run it through their own

53:08

adjustments and seasonal adjustments. and the other I

53:10

guess is in the model Australia and it's

53:12

got servants in garbage out. You put bad

53:15

data and you're going to get bad data

53:17

as to there are a lot of things.

53:19

This isn't just like us. A hey, you

53:21

know that the numbers all were adjusted massively

53:23

are within the same numbers over and over

53:25

again. Speaking to the bad data that there

53:28

are some real structural issues to why many

53:30

of us don't think they visited. Sort of

53:32

worth. Anything. By the way, we're talking

53:34

to Judy Vance and about fifteen minutes right

53:36

now we're with Carol Ross talking about the

53:39

Autonomy and. I. Want to

53:41

bring up. I want to bring up

53:43

something. I was one of most terrifying

53:45

things I've ever seen. It's an interview

53:47

where they are trying to make the

53:49

case for modern monetary theory which is.

53:52

Not modern. It's a very old theory.

53:54

You can just print money and no

53:56

big deal. nothing bad will happen. And

53:59

the. talk to Joe Biden's

54:01

economic advisor. Now, if

54:04

you would, explain who

54:07

Jared Bernstein is. He is, um,

54:09

he's the chair of the council

54:11

of economic advisors for Joe

54:13

Biden, but he's not just

54:15

some slob, right? I

54:20

mean, I'm not, I'm not going to

54:22

a pine on that piece, but what

54:24

I will tell you is he's somebody

54:27

that is very powerful economically. This is

54:29

Joe Biden's Matt, uh, like, you know,

54:31

right hand advisor who has been, by

54:34

the way, since the Obama administration, he

54:36

was Biden's advisor. And this is the

54:38

guy who analyzes and interprets economic development.

54:41

He comes up with economic policies. He

54:43

puts that forth to the president. He's

54:45

been entrenched in think tanks. He's been

54:48

a contributor to CNBC. He writes op

54:50

ed. He was a chief

54:52

economist and economic advisor. You know, previously, I

54:54

mean, this guy is like, you know, from

54:56

the, the left and far left standpoint, one

54:58

of the people who they hang their hat

55:00

on to be the economic advisor. And I

55:02

don't know, are you going to play the

55:04

clip because it's also one of the most

55:07

painful things I've ever watched in my life. I

55:09

want to play, get your comment from it. And I

55:11

just wanted to set up, this is a real player

55:14

in the economy. This is somebody our

55:16

government depends on. Listen

55:18

to him try to explain our

55:22

deficit and what's happening with our

55:24

money. Listen. The

55:26

US government can't go bankrupt because we can

55:28

print our own money. It

55:31

obviously begs the question, why exactly are we

55:33

borrowing an occurrence that we print ourselves? I'm

55:36

waiting for someone to stand up and

55:38

say, why do we borrow our

55:41

own currency in the first place? So

55:44

you said they print the dollars for life.

55:46

Why does the government even borrow? Well,

55:51

the so

55:54

the I mean, again, some of

55:56

this stuff gets some

55:58

of the language that's Some

56:00

of the language and concepts are just confusing. The

56:03

government definitely prints money and

56:05

it definitely lends that money, which is why the

56:08

government definitely prints money and then it

56:10

lends that money by selling

56:13

bonds. Is that what they do? Yeah,

56:19

they sell bonds. Yeah,

56:22

they sell bonds. So they sell bonds and

56:24

people buy the bonds and lend them the money. A

56:29

lot of times, at least to

56:31

my ear with MMT, the language and the concepts

56:33

can be unnecessarily confusing but

56:35

there is no question that the government

56:37

prints money and then it uses

56:39

that money to... So

56:47

yeah, I guess I'm just... I can't really

56:49

talk... I don't get it. I don't

56:51

know what they're talking about because it's like

56:55

the government clearly prints money. It does

56:57

it all the time and it clearly

57:00

borrows. Otherwise you wouldn't be having

57:02

this debt and deficit conversation. So I

57:04

don't think there's anything confusing there. Oh

57:07

my God. Would

57:10

you feel if that was your captain

57:12

and you got onto a plane and he

57:14

said, hey, we're going to be traveling at...

57:17

How does this work again? Would

57:23

you get on that plane? Okay,

57:27

so I'm going to be generous here first,

57:30

Glenn, and then I'm going to be not

57:32

so generous. The first generous thing I will

57:34

say is that we've all been in the

57:36

media for a very long time, you longer

57:38

than me, and we've all had days that

57:40

are somewhat like this where we know something

57:42

really well and we just can't get it

57:44

out. So I'm going to... It

57:47

could be today for me. There have been a few

57:49

times when I just have made absolutely no sense on

57:51

something that I know very well. So it does happen.

57:54

That being said, now that I've been generous, again,

57:57

this is sort of the

57:59

chief architecture. of the

58:01

US economy at this point, going into

58:03

a discussion about MMT, I call it

58:05

magic money tree. I heard that somewhere

58:07

along the line, but that was great.

58:10

And, you know, the main their main thesis is, oh,

58:12

you can, you know, you've got the checkbook, you can

58:14

just write checks. So the

58:17

question that he asked, which anyone who

58:19

lives in Zimbabwe would probably know the

58:21

answer to, why can't the government just

58:24

print as much money as it wants?

58:26

We all know it's highly inflationary. And

58:28

we've been living through that, you know,

58:30

for the past few years. So that's the

58:32

very short answer. Of course, there

58:35

is nuance to this. Of course, there's wonkiness

58:37

that we can go in and explain the Treasury and

58:39

the Fed and not really simple, very,

58:41

very, very, very, very. So a big question to

58:43

me, does he not know the answer? Or

58:45

does he very much know the answer, but

58:48

he doesn't feel like he could admit it

58:50

and hasn't done the prep, which again, you

58:52

know, this is these are politicians and politician

58:54

mouthpieces, you know, they should be able to

58:57

kind of talk around. That's what they do

58:59

all the time. And I

59:01

think the answer is that

59:03

they are just entirely decoupled

59:05

from reality. So they don't

59:07

care. They don't care what it

59:10

is. Money is something very discreet, right? Money

59:12

has three definitions. It is a unit of

59:14

account. It's a medium exchange. It's a store

59:16

of value. But at the end of the

59:19

day, putting that together, what is it is

59:21

a proxy for productivity. It is a estimation

59:23

of the labor that you have because it

59:25

used to be, you know, if you were

59:28

a farmer, you had apples, somebody who had

59:30

was a doctor, a doctor services, you'd have

59:33

to figure out that exchange. Now this creates

59:35

something that's seamless. And so it stands for

59:37

something. Stands much time is

59:40

money. It is, it

59:42

is your output. And so if

59:45

you do not have an increase

59:47

in economic activity, increasing productivity, and

59:49

you put more dollars in the

59:51

system, what are you doing? You're

59:53

putting in more, you know, sort

59:55

of proxies for productivity, they're

59:57

chasing the same amount of goods and services.

1:00:00

It means that those goods and services

1:00:02

have been inflated in value because each

1:00:04

one of those proxies are worthless

1:00:08

But the people if you go to Congress right

1:00:10

now and you ask them to give you that

1:00:12

definition of money that I just gave You that

1:00:14

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1:00:16

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1:00:19

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1:00:21

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1:00:23

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1:00:25

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1:00:27

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1:00:30

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1:00:32

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1:00:34

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1:00:37

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1:00:40

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1:00:42

can't explain because he doesn't he

1:00:44

doesn't want to take a position on

1:00:46

it Because I think they're all in

1:00:49

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1:00:51

he can't he doesn't

1:00:53

want to say I'm in bed with

1:00:55

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1:00:58

I think he also doesn't know how to

1:01:00

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1:01:02

there's a huge gap between

1:01:04

reality and insanity and There

1:01:06

it and I think that's what it is He

1:01:08

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1:01:10

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1:01:14

and the fact of the matter is you

1:01:16

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1:01:19

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1:01:21

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1:01:23

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1:01:25

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1:01:27

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1:01:29

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1:01:32

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1:01:34

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1:01:36

the worst inflationary period in 40 plus years

1:01:39

And these MMT people have not gotten enough

1:01:41

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1:01:43

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1:01:45

shame Because it is

1:01:47

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1:01:49

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Carol, there's a story in the New York Times. I

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would love to get your take on basically trying

1:03:41

to alert people, I guess of this. The Federal Reserve

1:03:43

has engaged in a colossal transformation

1:03:45

of the financial economy, yet

1:03:48

scarcely anyone is noticing. It

1:03:50

goes on to describe it similar to like

1:03:53

walking a herd of elephants through midtown

1:03:55

Manhattan without attracting attention. He says,

1:03:57

I'm not talking about the Fed's decisions on short-term

1:03:59

issues. interest rates which get the headlines, the

1:04:02

Fed cut those steady. I'm talking

1:04:04

about remarkably ambitious and poorly understood

1:04:06

Fed project known as quantitative tightening,

1:04:09

QT for short, that refers

1:04:11

to the Fed's reduction of the treasury

1:04:13

bonds and mortgage-backed securities on a mammoth

1:04:15

balance sheet. Okay, we only have about

1:04:17

80 seconds. We

1:04:20

may have to have you come back for that. But

1:04:22

can you give us a... Okay, let me... Go

1:04:24

ahead. Yeah, let me give

1:04:26

you the bite size. Obviously we have

1:04:28

accommodative policy and we have tightening policy.

1:04:30

The accommodative policy are things like dropping

1:04:32

interest rates and buying bonds, which is

1:04:34

QE. Quantitative tightening

1:04:36

is on the other side of that when

1:04:38

you decide that you're going to do the

1:04:40

opposite. And what they have done is

1:04:42

they said we are no longer... It's not we're going to

1:04:45

sell off our balance sheet, but we're going

1:04:47

to just let it run off. And

1:04:49

we're going to do that in

1:04:51

a more pronounced manner. So they can't

1:04:54

lower interest rates right now. That

1:04:56

would be seen as taboo given the

1:04:58

data, but they can use the QT

1:05:00

lever as a way to be more

1:05:03

accommodative. They're moving away from QT.

1:05:05

So that's basically in a nutshell sort

1:05:07

of a signal to the market that people

1:05:10

who are wonky understand that they are being

1:05:12

accommodative through their balance sheet or they can't

1:05:14

do so with interest rates. That might be such a

1:05:16

version. I think I'm going to have to have you come back to

1:05:18

explain that because I don't really understand that. It

1:05:21

just sounds like another scam. My Jared Bernstein

1:05:23

impression when I come back to it. I

1:05:26

don't know. Is that what they do? Is

1:05:28

that? I don't know. I don't know. I

1:05:31

don't know. I don't know. It's so

1:05:33

cute of me. I know they show up at nine o'clock

1:05:35

every morning. They turn on their office lights. So

1:05:37

I know they're there doing something. I just don't know. I

1:05:40

don't know. Yeah. Carol, thank

1:05:42

you so much. Appreciate it. God bless. JD

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Vance is going to be joining us here in just a

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few minutes. As soon as he jumps on the phone, I

1:07:35

know he's got a very limited schedule, but we wanted to

1:07:37

talk to him about what was going on with the Trump

1:07:39

trial. Also, want to

1:07:41

hear about him possibly being

1:07:44

vice president. How

1:07:46

are those conversations going? Currently tied for the

1:07:48

second, or he's the second favorite. You have

1:07:50

two people tied for first, which is Doug

1:07:52

Burgum and Tim Scott. I don't see either

1:07:54

of those happening. We're just

1:07:56

guessing here. We don't have any inside info on his process.

1:08:00

is the come on you can't even even know his

1:08:02

name I mean yeah whatever come now but it's him

1:08:04

is real it's turning into Bergamania at any moment but

1:08:07

the eyebrow guy is out yeah okay I

1:08:09

just don't see yeah and I don't know

1:08:11

we're getting reporting on it I just don't

1:08:14

believe it it's just my own vibe I

1:08:16

don't know if that's not I don't think

1:08:18

Tim Scott is strong enough yet he might

1:08:20

be later but he's not strong enough yet

1:08:22

I just don't see it he's not strong

1:08:25

enough in defense I still think he's

1:08:27

not gonna cross those loyalty lines that Trump likes

1:08:29

I don't know I could be wrong I love

1:08:31

JD Vance to be vice president JD Vance's I

1:08:33

think he I think he's a real choice I

1:08:36

mean again he doesn't he does not check any

1:08:38

of the intersectional identity politics boxes

1:08:40

but again we're told that Trump doesn't

1:08:42

care about that I certainly don't care

1:08:44

about it he didn't he picked Mike

1:08:46

Pence last time he picked Mike Pence

1:08:48

I think because of his Christian evangelical

1:08:50

he saw that as a weakness I

1:08:52

think that's really and I think that's

1:08:55

personally why he will pick Tulsi

1:08:57

Gabbard because the weakness

1:08:59

this time is women women

1:09:01

and also abortion he

1:09:04

believed now look I this

1:09:06

is not how I feel but every piece

1:09:08

of reporting from inside the White House and Trump's

1:09:10

public statements back up the idea that he thinks

1:09:13

if he goes too far an abortion he's

1:09:15

gonna lose yes that's what it sounds like

1:09:17

and that's what all the reporting inside of

1:09:19

the campaign indicates he's very much trying to

1:09:22

move a girl walk this middle

1:09:24

line he's not abandoning his what he did with the

1:09:26

judges but he's he does not want

1:09:28

that to be the number one thing and a

1:09:30

guy like Mike Pence I wouldn't either would yeah

1:09:32

point in that direction so you think the religious

1:09:34

conservative angle maybe not the one he goes to

1:09:37

hear Tulsi Gabbard I hate

1:09:39

to point out was a birdie-sanders

1:09:41

campaign volunteer so

1:09:43

this is Donald Trump I like her

1:09:45

but I worry about is his pick

1:09:48

is going to be the party after

1:09:51

Donald Trump in four years right that's the

1:09:53

setup for the party who is it gonna

1:09:55

be JD Vance I think would be great

1:09:58

Tulsi Gabbard is not the Republican party party.

1:10:01

What? If you look at

1:10:03

it, she would tell you. Right, she's not.

1:10:05

But if you look at it from his

1:10:07

perspective, he's got all this divide, everybody

1:10:10

says he's a divider. All right, here's somebody

1:10:12

who I don't agree with on a lot,

1:10:14

but she agrees on certain principles that America

1:10:17

is great, America should come first, we shouldn't

1:10:19

be in all these foreign wars, etc., etc.

1:10:22

I could see her if not vice

1:10:24

president, I could see him, this is

1:10:27

not my hope, but

1:10:29

this is what I could see him doing, he

1:10:31

would think I can appeal

1:10:34

to the people who are

1:10:37

women in the suburbs by saying, come

1:10:40

on, she's more

1:10:42

like you. She works

1:10:44

with me. We're not

1:10:46

what everybody says we are. Right out of

1:10:48

central casting. Right out of central casting. Right

1:10:50

out of central casting. You know, I do

1:10:52

think it's possible. Okay, we have JD Vance

1:10:54

on with us now. Hello,

1:10:56

JD. How are you? How

1:10:59

you doing, man? Great, great to talk to

1:11:01

you. First, I have to ask you, how

1:11:04

are the talks to be vice president going on? I'm

1:11:07

just saying. Well,

1:11:10

you'll be the first to know Glenn, of

1:11:12

course, the media is very curious in this,

1:11:14

but I've never yet had a conversation with

1:11:17

Donald Trump about being vice president. Really? Until

1:11:19

I do, I will assume that this is a lot of

1:11:22

media speculation. Wow. What you do

1:11:24

about nothing. Well, we're pulling for you actually. We're

1:11:26

pulling for you. So let's

1:11:29

talk a little bit about Trump

1:11:31

and the trial. This trial is

1:11:34

more than just a kangaroo court. There's

1:11:38

nothing to this trial. How

1:11:41

do you think it's going? Well,

1:11:43

I think it's, I mean, the only thing that really

1:11:45

matters of course is the court of public opinion because

1:11:48

such a sham trial, I don't think that it's going to

1:11:50

hold up on appeal. You know, the

1:11:52

basic argument here is that he falsified

1:11:55

documents in order to commit a

1:11:57

crime, but they can't even identify which crime he

1:11:59

allegedly committed. Very hard to imagine anything

1:12:01

like that can hold up on appeal. Now

1:12:04

look, it is highlighting,

1:12:06

I think, how corrupt the justice system

1:12:08

has gotten in certain parts of our

1:12:10

country, right? So you have the number

1:12:12

three person at Biden's DOJ who jumps

1:12:14

ship and goes and joins a local

1:12:16

prosecutor office to participate in this. By

1:12:18

the way, he's also, it turns out

1:12:20

a DNC paid consultant. Then

1:12:22

you have, of course, a source funded prosecutor who

1:12:24

brings the case. It's being presided over by a

1:12:27

literal campaign donor to Biden Harris

1:12:29

who is preventing Donald Trump from

1:12:31

even speaking on the merits of the

1:12:34

case in the court of public opinion. So

1:12:37

I think it's really helping Trump politically,

1:12:39

which again, I think is all that

1:12:41

matters because most people who

1:12:43

have any sense of fairness recognize that this

1:12:45

is a sham trial. And so long as

1:12:47

it's helping Trump get elected, I think that's

1:12:50

the thing that matters most. I will tell

1:12:52

you that I think the line of maybe

1:12:54

the year, we're not finished yet, but I

1:12:56

think the line maybe of the year is

1:12:59

Donald Trump when he came out, I think it was yesterday

1:13:01

and said, the

1:13:03

constitution is well worth

1:13:05

me going to jail for. It's

1:13:09

worth more than me trying

1:13:11

to stay out of jail. So put me in

1:13:13

jail. And I thought, wow,

1:13:16

that is a strong, strong

1:13:19

stance. As

1:13:21

a way of driving home mistakes,

1:13:23

doesn't it? Yeah. This guy is

1:13:25

literally trying to prevent him

1:13:28

from speaking. The Democrats have made this

1:13:30

a major political issue. The Democrats are

1:13:32

fundraising off of it. You know, Biden

1:13:34

Harris campaign sending around, you know,

1:13:36

fundraising emails, Oh, isn't it funny that Donald Trump's

1:13:38

in court today sent us money and

1:13:41

yet the judge is preventing Trump

1:13:43

for participating in what is

1:13:45

right now the most lively political debate

1:13:47

of the country. So it

1:13:50

really, I think, again, just drives home how

1:13:52

much these guys have lost their minds. And,

1:13:55

you know, I've even seen

1:13:57

polls here that Biden. People

1:14:00

who plan to vote for Joe Biden recognize this

1:14:02

is fundamentally a sham trial. Now here's the crazy

1:14:04

thing about this, Glenn, is I

1:14:06

do a lot of hostile media. It's one of the things I like

1:14:09

to do is sort of taking our case to the other side. And

1:14:11

I've sat in green rooms with people who

1:14:14

months ago were angry at Alvin Bragg for

1:14:16

bringing this case because it was such a

1:14:18

weak case. But now that it's

1:14:20

the only case that's actually gone to trial

1:14:22

because the rest of them have fallen apart,

1:14:25

you see the media treating this as legitimate.

1:14:27

And I don't think anybody believes them. There's just

1:14:29

no credibility here, and everything that further erodes their

1:14:32

credibility is, in my view, a good thing. So

1:14:34

let me ask you a couple of other questions.

1:14:37

I know we have limited time. Let me

1:14:39

first stop with the campus protest funding. And

1:14:42

Biden holding back aid, bullets

1:14:45

to Israel. Isn't

1:14:47

this exactly what Donald Trump

1:14:49

was impeached for? He

1:14:51

held back congressionally approved

1:14:55

javelins from

1:14:57

Ukraine. And

1:15:00

now Biden is holding back

1:15:02

ammunition from Israel. What's

1:15:05

the difference? There

1:15:07

isn't any difference, of course. The

1:15:09

only real difference is I think

1:15:11

that Donald Trump actually was engaged

1:15:13

in diplomacy and was negotiating with

1:15:15

the Ukrainians and also other

1:15:18

folks in the region about how much aid they

1:15:20

should be providing. Of course, it shouldn't just be

1:15:22

America, whether you support Ukraine or not. What's

1:15:25

different about this is I think you're taking one

1:15:27

of the few truly bipartisan issues in this country

1:15:29

that we should be supporting our ally of Israel,

1:15:31

and you're allowing it to be dictated by the far

1:15:34

left. Now, I have a little

1:15:36

bit of a different take on this, Glenn,

1:15:38

because I think what Biden is doing is

1:15:41

really killing two political birds with one stone

1:15:43

here. One, as I've been warning for months,

1:15:45

we don't have enough ammunition to send to

1:15:47

Ukraine and Israel simultaneously. We

1:15:50

have to pick one. Well, the Biden administration,

1:15:52

I think, has picked the corrupt Ukrainian regime

1:15:54

over our long-term ally of the Israelis. I

1:15:56

think it's just scriptful. But

1:15:58

simultaneously, he's been doing it. he's going to his left

1:16:01

flank and saying, the reason I'm doing this is

1:16:04

because, you know, B.B. is bad and because

1:16:06

we don't like the way that B.B. is

1:16:08

prosecuting the war. So he gets to tell

1:16:10

his left flank what they want to hear

1:16:12

while covering for the fundamental failure of his

1:16:14

foreign policy. If one of the

1:16:17

reasons, Glenn, it was such a bad

1:16:19

idea for Republicans to give Biden this

1:16:21

security fundamental, it's such a big bill

1:16:23

that it sort of allows Biden to

1:16:25

hide his priorities and just have his

1:16:27

cake and eat it too. The

1:16:32

other thing that I want to talk to

1:16:34

you about is the healthcare that is now

1:16:36

going to illegal migrants. How does

1:16:38

this president get away

1:16:41

with so much

1:16:43

executive power? That

1:16:45

there, nobody gave him the

1:16:47

authorization to do this. Nobody gave him

1:16:50

the authorization to spend all of this

1:16:52

money. Nobody gave him the authorization to

1:16:54

relieve or to forgive, quote, all those

1:16:57

loans and time to the

1:16:59

back of the taxpayer. This

1:17:01

is a very important concept in

1:17:04

our constitution. It's why congressmen

1:17:06

have to be reelected every

1:17:09

two years because

1:17:11

we want them to answer

1:17:13

for the money they just spent or

1:17:16

allowed to be spent. Well,

1:17:19

you're right, Glenn. I mean, look, we

1:17:21

know that at this point, Biden is a tyrannical president

1:17:23

who will violate the law and it is a violation

1:17:25

of the law. I don't want

1:17:27

to let us off the hook here because

1:17:29

we should know at this point that when

1:17:31

we appropriate Joe Biden, a big chunk

1:17:34

of money, he is sometimes going to

1:17:36

violate the law in the way that he actually

1:17:38

distributed. And this means that

1:17:40

Congress actually has to take a little bit

1:17:42

more assertive of a role, has

1:17:44

to be willing to cut off certain appropriations,

1:17:47

not write Biden these blank checks. This

1:17:50

is really important, Glenn.

1:17:52

Congress increasingly, again, with

1:17:54

this massive security supplemental, when you write Joe

1:17:56

Biden a check, you can't go to the

1:17:58

American people and say... well, he's

1:18:01

doing this illegally. Well, that's true, but you know

1:18:03

he's gonna do it illegally, so you have to

1:18:06

be a little bit more careful about how we

1:18:08

give this guy authority in the first place. And

1:18:10

I have to say here, Gwen, this

1:18:13

giving healthcare to illegal aliens is,

1:18:15

it should offend

1:18:17

every single American. We

1:18:19

have a social safety net in this

1:18:22

country. Medicaid exists for impoverished people to

1:18:24

help pay their medical bills. If you

1:18:26

allow folks who should not be in

1:18:28

this country to begin with, who are

1:18:30

here illegally, to literally take from the

1:18:33

mouths of American poor children so

1:18:35

that we can fund their healthcare, then

1:18:37

whose side are you really on? And

1:18:40

I think it's becoming increasingly clear that

1:18:42

Biden doesn't like the people who

1:18:44

currently make up the citizenry of this country,

1:18:46

and he's trying to change the way the

1:18:48

country operates, the way that we

1:18:50

distribute resources, the way that we vote, and

1:18:53

that's what his illegal immigration push is all

1:18:55

about. Well, I just cannot believe that, those

1:18:59

at the very bottom of the scale,

1:19:01

the ones that the Democrats have said

1:19:03

they care about the most forever, the

1:19:06

black families that are trapped in

1:19:08

Chicago and are barely making ends

1:19:11

meet, how are they

1:19:13

to view the government

1:19:16

when they're not getting, they're

1:19:18

not being put up in a hotel someplace, they're

1:19:20

not getting all of these perks, and

1:19:23

yet we're doing it for people who

1:19:25

just came here. It, I mean, if

1:19:27

I were on the receiving end or

1:19:29

on the need end of this, and

1:19:31

I was a citizen, I'd be like,

1:19:34

dude, what are you doing? You never did

1:19:36

this for me, you never did this for, you

1:19:38

know, my family as we were struggling. Absolutely,

1:19:42

they just came here, and a lot of them

1:19:44

came here illegally, Glenn. We have veterans who can't

1:19:47

afford healthcare who are sleeping on park benches. At

1:19:49

the same time, we're handing out free healthcare

1:19:52

to people who violated the law to come

1:19:54

to this country in the first place. It's

1:19:56

completely disgraceful, and I think a lot of

1:19:58

people should be looking. around and saying,

1:20:00

who does Joe Biden actually stand for? Right?

1:20:03

The Democrats say that they care about the

1:20:05

little guy. Let me just say

1:20:07

you just a brief story, Glenn. I have a

1:20:09

dear friend of mine who's getting up there in

1:20:11

years, who is now eligible for

1:20:13

Social Security. He basically found out that there

1:20:15

were a number of illegal aliens who had

1:20:18

used his Social Security number to get a

1:20:20

whole host of benefits, including Social Security benefits.

1:20:22

When he went to the government and said,

1:20:24

Hey, I'd like to know who's using these

1:20:26

things so I can report to the police.

1:20:29

They basically told him, no, we don't

1:20:31

reveal people's personal information, even

1:20:33

illegal aliens who are committing Social

1:20:35

Security fraud. This is the

1:20:37

kind of country that Joe Biden has

1:20:40

created where the very things that we

1:20:42

do as a country to help the

1:20:44

least fortunate are being given away to

1:20:46

illegal aliens instead of American citizens. I

1:20:48

cannot stand it. JD,

1:20:51

thank you so much. Senator JD Vance from

1:20:53

Ohio. Always good to have you on. Thank

1:20:55

you. Thanks. One, two, three.

1:20:57

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monitors extremist groups in the U.S.

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He is also an adjunct professor

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at Regent University.

1:30:21

Ryan, welcome back to the program. How are

1:30:23

you? I'm doing well. Thanks for having

1:30:25

me back. Thank you so

1:30:28

much for doing all of this

1:30:30

work. It is

1:30:32

crazy that when I

1:30:34

read your work now, I'm brought back

1:30:37

to 2008 and I see exactly the

1:30:39

same names, the same circle of people

1:30:42

all returning to do what they did

1:30:44

during Occupy Wall Street. That's

1:30:48

exactly right. It's the same model except

1:30:50

this is more successful

1:30:53

and for various reasons

1:30:57

and I'm sorry to say it appears to be

1:30:59

more militant because it's increasingly

1:31:01

militant and revolutionary because

1:31:04

we've been monitoring probably around 250,

1:31:06

300 different groups

1:31:08

all at once and

1:31:11

we haven't fully investigated all of them.

1:31:13

My expectation based on my

1:31:15

past work that you're familiar with with

1:31:17

the Muslim Brotherhood and Phil Haney and

1:31:19

that type of thing was that this

1:31:22

would be a coalition and people

1:31:24

would be surprised by the proportion

1:31:26

of which are Islamist extremists but

1:31:28

there'd be a wide cast of

1:31:30

characters. I've got to tell you, so

1:31:32

far my list, which is only a

1:31:35

portion of what we have,

1:31:37

I've come up with over

1:31:40

120 terrorism-tied organizations involved in

1:31:42

these protests, almost

1:31:44

all of which support Hamas

1:31:46

and the October 7th attacks and I

1:31:48

can prove it because they all said

1:31:50

it. So there isn't much diversity here.

1:31:53

This was conjured up and

1:31:56

is being implemented by a

1:31:58

group of Hamas supporters, some of them. which have ties

1:32:01

to Hamas more directly? So

1:32:05

I remember in 2010, I said

1:32:08

you will see an effort from

1:32:12

Islamists, Marxists, anti-capitalist,

1:32:14

communists, they'll all come

1:32:17

together to disrupt the order

1:32:19

and try to collapse the West. And

1:32:22

I was made fun of because people said, they'll

1:32:24

always say, like the Marxist and the Islamist have

1:32:26

anything to do with each other. And

1:32:28

I said, they're not going to be calling each other

1:32:31

up. They just all

1:32:33

see the opportunity to destroy

1:32:35

more of America and destabilize

1:32:37

us. Do you think that's what's

1:32:39

happening? Any of that? Yeah,

1:32:42

well, you're being proven correct and you're going

1:32:44

to be increasingly proven correctly once we finish

1:32:47

our huge expose, breaking down the entire

1:32:49

makeup of this group and all the

1:32:51

messaging that they're using. And

1:32:54

you're right, they don't call each other up, but

1:32:56

they do communicate on social media, with Telegram, trans

1:32:58

and the rest of it, because their language, their

1:33:00

way of talking is now

1:33:02

so similar because it's so revolutionary and

1:33:05

they've kind of combined their different causes into

1:33:08

one thing, even if they disagree on what

1:33:10

happens after their revolution succeeds. They kind of

1:33:12

put that off to the side. But

1:33:16

yes, that coalition is coming together. And

1:33:18

I would say there's kind of like

1:33:20

four concentric circles where on the outermost

1:33:22

layer you have the more typical Muslim

1:33:24

Brotherhood style groups that are a bit

1:33:27

cautious, but they imply their support for

1:33:29

criminality. Some of them are. But

1:33:32

we condemn terrorism, but if

1:33:35

you know how they talk, you know what

1:33:37

they're saying. And then you have the next

1:33:39

circle in where they're very similar, but they

1:33:41

go a step further in passing around guides

1:33:43

on how to do criminal acts of protest.

1:33:45

So they're a little bit more militant. And

1:33:47

then you move further in and those are

1:33:49

the people that are saying, well, we need

1:33:51

to escalate on the college campuses. Let's fight

1:33:53

the police. Let's get a little bit more

1:33:55

destructive. And then there's this inner

1:33:57

circle that I think can be accurately

1:33:59

described. as domestic terrorists and I'm watching

1:34:01

what they're saying to each other and what

1:34:04

they're advocating and they're passing around descriptions

1:34:07

and guides on how to do every

1:34:09

conceivable violent and active sabotage that

1:34:11

you can think of and their

1:34:13

debate and their argument they seem to be

1:34:15

gaining ground is that we're having

1:34:17

so much success that yes of course we should

1:34:19

escalate in the college campuses and the typical places

1:34:21

we show up the congressional offices all that but

1:34:24

we're really doing so well right now that

1:34:26

we should broaden out our campaign and not

1:34:28

make it about influencing opinion and policy but

1:34:31

imposing our will let's dismantle

1:34:34

the nationwide infrastructure that

1:34:37

abables the US and Israeli military

1:34:39

alliance and capitalism all that to

1:34:41

continue so it's no longer a

1:34:44

debate we just make

1:34:46

you follow our orders as as somebody

1:34:48

who you know researchers you know as

1:34:51

a researcher on on terror how

1:34:54

likely is how likely is it

1:34:58

that we're going to see a massive

1:35:01

terror strike even if it's not

1:35:03

something like 9-11

1:35:05

but it's several groups all

1:35:08

around the country doing something

1:35:10

around the same time to just freely

1:35:13

throw us off the

1:35:17

impression I get is that they may not take

1:35:19

the exceptional risk of trying to coordinate

1:35:21

it down to the very second or the

1:35:24

very same hour but generally okay now

1:35:26

it's go time in fact that's what they're saying in

1:35:28

the communication of saying it almost a go time that

1:35:31

some are saying yeah maybe we should wait well while

1:35:33

we do the college campus first it's in that kind

1:35:35

of stage of discussion but they're

1:35:37

all envisioning a large number

1:35:39

of small attacks over a short period

1:35:42

of time and they see that as

1:35:44

the most likely way forward as opposed

1:35:46

to this resource intensive operation

1:35:49

like a 9-11 has a higher chance

1:35:52

of failure right right who

1:35:54

who is actually funding this who are the

1:35:56

big people that are funding well

1:35:59

some of the names that you mentioned certainly are involved,

1:36:01

but I've got to say based on what little

1:36:04

data is available, and people will be shocked how

1:36:06

little data is available and what you can get

1:36:08

away with as a nonprofit

1:36:10

and these different schemes that they have

1:36:12

in order to hide any type of

1:36:14

transparency, but of what little data we

1:36:16

have, the names that you mentioned,

1:36:19

the Soros's, the Tide Foundation,

1:36:21

all of those are donating to

1:36:23

these types of groups that are

1:36:25

putting this together, but that appears

1:36:27

to be a tiny percentage of

1:36:30

the overall spending and revenue that they

1:36:32

have. The rest

1:36:34

seems to be coming through memes unknown,

1:36:36

maybe private donors or businesses, there's these

1:36:38

various schemes that they have, and

1:36:41

that makes it much more frightening

1:36:43

because we don't have a clue in

1:36:46

general. How much money

1:36:48

do you think we're talking about? With

1:36:52

all these groups, if we've

1:36:54

identified 120 terror tide groups just

1:36:57

on our own, there are operating budgets

1:36:59

and everything else, you've got to be talking

1:37:01

about altogether, and definitely millions,

1:37:04

probably tens of billions. Is

1:37:12

there any lead or

1:37:14

is this just a collection of people

1:37:16

that are thinking alike or are they

1:37:20

highly coordinated? They're

1:37:24

highly coordinated when it comes down to the

1:37:26

cell level, and as they're trying to assemble

1:37:29

these types of insurgent and guerrilla networks on

1:37:31

the local level, that's much more

1:37:33

organized. In the broader scheme of things,

1:37:37

doing these types of protests, there's less coordination

1:37:39

because there just doesn't need to be. Everyone's

1:37:41

focused on the same thing, everyone has the

1:37:43

same objectives, so you don't need as much

1:37:45

command and control, but there's certainly organizations that

1:37:47

are more powerful than others, all

1:37:50

sorts of coalitions with

1:37:52

sub-coalitions, and so you

1:37:54

have groups like the US Campaign for Palestinian

1:37:56

Rights that alone has about 300 groups in

1:37:59

their network. They present themselves as

1:38:01

very moderate, but then in the activist

1:38:03

guide, the toolkit that they send around,

1:38:06

they'll have links to websites that talk

1:38:08

about how to do illegal direct actions

1:38:10

as part of the protest. And

1:38:13

of course they have links to Hamas overseas.

1:38:15

They send money to the Palestinian territories for

1:38:17

the BDS campaign, and like a specific structure

1:38:19

that actually has Hamas in it. So it's

1:38:21

not even an indirect thing. But

1:38:24

of course they get mainstream credibility and then they

1:38:27

look just fine, according to the people that talk about these

1:38:29

issues. So, you know, I'm looking

1:38:31

at some of the things that you have

1:38:33

dug up. Now it

1:38:35

looks like UCLA, Columbia, USC, and

1:38:38

other college campus encampments

1:38:40

were planned pretty

1:38:42

much right after October 7th, beginning

1:38:45

in November, 2023. Yeah,

1:38:49

that's definitely true. As soon as one group starts

1:38:51

doing it and starts getting chatty about it, then

1:38:54

other groups are going to start talking to them

1:38:56

about it. So that's a very easy thing to

1:38:58

happen. It started becoming a trend as soon as

1:39:00

the effort began. And

1:39:02

honestly, I think Hamas and their affiliates

1:39:06

would have been crazy not to at least have

1:39:08

some discussion right before they did the October 7th

1:39:10

attacks about, all right, well, how are we going

1:39:12

to operate politically in

1:39:14

the United States and elsewhere in

1:39:17

dealing with the Israeli response? Like that conversation had

1:39:19

to take place. And you might've

1:39:22

seen the fruits of it when immediately after

1:39:24

the attack, at the Students for Justice in

1:39:26

Palestine, saying not just they support the attacks,

1:39:28

which is how most of the media report

1:39:30

in it. Oh, they said they support the

1:39:32

attacks. How outrageous. No, what they actually said

1:39:34

was, and this is an almost direct quote,

1:39:36

is we're not just saying

1:39:38

we're in solidarity with the

1:39:40

resistance movement that carried

1:39:42

out the attack, obviously referring to Hamas, but they don't

1:39:45

want to say a mob. We're

1:39:47

part of it. They absorbed

1:39:49

themselves into it. And

1:39:51

so that they were acting in allegiance to

1:39:54

them under their direction. That crosses

1:39:56

the line into material support for

1:39:58

terrorism. That's the provision. of

1:40:01

personnel and resources. So

1:40:03

that's a very different thing than how the media

1:40:06

characterized and that's why Ron DeSantis was much more

1:40:08

justified than how it was characterized when he shut

1:40:10

down two of the Students

1:40:12

for Justice and Palestine chapters on college campuses

1:40:14

in Florida. It's amazing, amazing

1:40:17

that our government is really doing nothing

1:40:19

on this. What is the percentage of

1:40:21

those that we see on television that

1:40:23

are actual believers know what they're doing

1:40:26

compared to useful idiots? The

1:40:29

majority are going to be useful idiots, I

1:40:31

think, that were enticed by, aside

1:40:33

from being at that age where

1:40:35

you're eager to try to figure out your

1:40:37

role in the world and feel like you're

1:40:39

doing something positive. I mean, it's just psychology

1:40:42

at that age. But the overall message of,

1:40:44

hey, do you oppose genocide? Do

1:40:47

you oppose war? Do you oppose

1:40:49

the conditions of the Palestinians? And

1:40:51

well, here's our argument for opposing

1:40:53

Israel because that will result in

1:40:55

peace, cease fires, and improvement and

1:40:57

liberation for the Palestinians. And

1:41:00

that, to a lot of the people, is

1:41:02

now an intellectual detailed argument. And

1:41:06

I've gotta say, culturally, and

1:41:09

I'm not that old, I'm not that

1:41:11

young, I'm 37, but I've seen a

1:41:13

shift over the past six or seven

1:41:15

years where the unjustified arrogance of

1:41:17

the youth when it comes to political

1:41:19

issues is just outrageous.

1:41:22

It's just a degree of certainty that

1:41:24

exists. And that's really weaponized by these

1:41:26

groups. And for

1:41:28

these to be the elite campuses, it

1:41:31

just shows how bad our

1:41:33

educational system is. These people

1:41:35

are morons, just morons. We're

1:41:39

up against summer and graduations are

1:41:41

happening. What happens in the summer?

1:41:44

Does this go away and then pick back up

1:41:46

in the fall? What is the

1:41:48

plan if you know? I

1:41:52

mean, the plan is definitely to continue as it always

1:41:54

is, but I think unlike the incidents

1:41:56

with Black Lives Matter and other

1:41:58

times in the past, Those are generated

1:42:00

by specific incidents and over time,

1:42:02

the memory of those incidents and

1:42:05

the emotional backlash you anticipate, whereas

1:42:07

this is more of a permanent thing, because

1:42:10

Israel is not going to stop the operations and

1:42:12

Gaza against Hamas. That situation is not going to

1:42:14

resolve itself. And so it has

1:42:16

much more longevity. So

1:42:18

it will continue into the summertime. A lot

1:42:20

of groups have put their credibility on the

1:42:22

line into saying we're going to act over

1:42:24

the summer and into the future. And even

1:42:27

just from a more

1:42:29

selfish operational standpoint, a lot of these

1:42:31

nonprofits seem to be raising a lot

1:42:33

of money and getting a lot of members. And so

1:42:35

regardless of the cause, there's a

1:42:38

real selfish motivation on each one

1:42:40

of those parts to keep the

1:42:42

chaos going. BLM, some people got

1:42:44

very, very rich off of that.

1:42:47

Right, right. Exactly. Ryan,

1:42:49

thank you so much for everything that you do. When

1:42:51

you have more information, please reach out because I'd love

1:42:54

to have you on again. It's

1:42:56

really important work that

1:42:58

should be heard by everybody. Thank you so much. All

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appearances in various movies over

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the years. They're trying to make her look

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like basically she's just a normal actress and

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as occasional time she's never closed on. Trying

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to make her appeal to the jury

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as more of a regular person. She

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does describe this day

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in some level of

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detail of when

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she met Trump at a golf tournament and

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she says that the body

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man, Keith, Keith is his first name, I

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can't think of his last name. Keith

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Trump. Yes, Keith Trump is what she put into

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her phone and he came

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up, asked about would you come to

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dinner with Donald Trump? She

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