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John McWhorter and Keith Ellison – Prosecuting Derek Chauvin

John McWhorter and Keith Ellison – Prosecuting Derek Chauvin

Released Friday, 5th April 2024
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John McWhorter and Keith Ellison – Prosecuting Derek Chauvin

John McWhorter and Keith Ellison – Prosecuting Derek Chauvin

John McWhorter and Keith Ellison – Prosecuting Derek Chauvin

John McWhorter and Keith Ellison – Prosecuting Derek Chauvin

Friday, 5th April 2024
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0:00 Why Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison wanted to come on TGS

4:42 Keith’s defense of the George Floyd trials’ verdicts

9:54 John: We weren’t wrong to ask the questions we asked, even if our answers came up short at first

13:00: Keith: Liz Collin doesn’t seem to believe that police misconduct actually exists

16:40 How Keith accounts for racial disparities in criminal behavior

21:36 The emotional dimension of prosecution

27:15 Keith’s argument for integration and against charter schools

35:19 The redlining debate

40:00 The burning of Minneapolis’s 3rd Precinct

44:45 Keith: “‘Defund the police’ is dumb”

46:38 What’s causing low police morale?

50:25 Keith’s argument for a two-state solution and re-electing Biden

55:41 Keith: Glenn and John play an important role in political discourse today

Recorded March 30, 2024

Links and Readings

Keith Ellison’s book, Break the Wheel: Ending the Cycle of Police Violence

Glenn and John’s first conversation about The Fall of Minneapolis

Glenn and John talk to Fall of Minneapolis filmmakers Liz Collin and JC Chaix

Glenn and John talk George Floyd after Radley Balko’s first post on the documentary

Radley Balko’s Substack post, “The Retconning of George Floyd, Part One”

Radley Balko’s Substack post, “The Retconning of George Floyd, Part Two”

Radley Balko’s Substack post, “The Retconning of George Floyd, Part Three”

Radley Balko’s response to Coleman Hughes

Alpha News

Rucker Johnson’s working paper, “Long-Run Impacts of School Desegregation & School Quality on Adult Attainments”

John’s NYT piece, “What’s Missing from the Conversation about Systemic Racism”

Equal Justice Initiative website



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