This conversation was nothing I expected but everything we needed. writer, journalist, and host of the History of Being Black Podcast J Hall tweeted, "Most men say they desire peace in a relationship when in reality, they're really demanding order." This unfiltered perspective was expansive enough to make you laugh, think, and reconsider how Black love and are loved. Listen to the conversation with host Cameo King as they both challenge the concept of peace, masculinity, and the needs of Black men in relationships.