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haunted Exchange Hotel. The

2:04

Exchange Hotel in Pennsylvania is

2:06

home to many spirits. Originally

2:09

constructed as an opulent hotel along a

2:11

rail line, it would soon find its

2:13

rooms converted to a triage center during

2:15

the war. More than

2:18

70,000 soldiers would pass through the

2:20

rooms of the Exchange Hotel during

2:22

the Civil War. Roughly

2:24

1% would take their last breath at

2:26

the hotel. This means nearly 700 soldiers

2:29

would die at the

2:32

Exchange Hotel. After the war,

2:34

it was converted back into a

2:36

hotel, a hotel that would almost

2:38

immediately begin being known as the

2:40

Haunted Location in town. Murder,

2:43

suicide, and other dark events would grace

2:45

its steps before eventually being shuttered in

2:47

the 1970s as tourism died down. This

2:52

is the story of the Haunted

2:54

Exchange Hotel shared by Christie Summer

2:56

of Soul Sisters paranormal. The

2:59

Exchange Hotel is located in

3:01

Gordonville, Virginia. That's

3:03

about an hour northwest of Richmond, Virginia,

3:05

about two hours south of D.C. Essentially,

3:08

it was a very small quaint town.

3:11

Even if you go there today, it really looks

3:13

like you're stepping back into history. In

3:16

the 1940s, the

3:18

railroad came into Gordonville and it essentially

3:21

acted as an economic catalyst for the

3:23

region. Because those

3:25

goods and services were now able

3:28

to get into that quaint town, it really

3:30

began to grow and thrive. And

3:33

then in about the 1950s, I mean 1850s, sorry, in 1854, three

3:35

railroad lines, the Orange,

3:43

the Alexander, and the largest of which

3:45

was the Virginia Central Line,

3:48

actually converged in Gordonville, which

3:50

meant that at the time, goods

3:52

and services could come from the north,

3:54

south, east, and the west. So it

3:57

was really an exchange

3:59

spot. for people and

4:01

goods in the region. And

4:04

so because of that, they needed

4:06

a location where those passengers that

4:08

would come and get off one

4:10

rail line could wait in

4:12

comfort for the other trains to come in, for

4:14

the next train to come in. So what they did is

4:17

they built, several people in the

4:19

area started building taverns and

4:21

restaurants and hotels in the area.

4:23

So these people could have that

4:25

luxury spot to wait for their

4:27

next train. So it essentially became

4:29

an exchange location. In,

4:32

let's see, 1859, there was a tavern that

4:36

was located on the property that is now

4:38

the exchange hotel. It was just a

4:40

tavern, but it then ended up burning down.

4:43

And so the owner of that property

4:45

decided that he wanted to build a large

4:47

opulent hotel where people could actually spend the

4:49

night. So he built

4:52

this hotel, it was three stories,

4:55

and it was very opulent for

4:57

the time. It had eight large guest rooms

4:59

that had high ceilings, had large windows, had

5:02

large varandas that passengers could sit and

5:05

wait for their next train, or they

5:07

actually had a small restaurant where you

5:09

could have food. So

5:12

it was really a hub of

5:14

the community there in

5:16

Gordonville. And so after,

5:20

when the Civil War started around 1860, in

5:25

1861, Virginia succeeded from the Union and

5:28

troops started departing from the town of Gordonville

5:30

via these train stations. So they would put

5:32

a Harper's Ferry and some of

5:34

those other locations to report for duty.

5:37

And so the railroad lines became a

5:39

transit line for soldiers and munitions

5:42

rather than goods and services at that point.

5:45

So you had all of these troops that were

5:47

coming in, mostly from the

5:49

Confederates, that were coming in

5:51

and using this as a transit location

5:53

to get to various battlefields. And

5:56

even in 1862, the military came in and

5:58

they took over this hotel. and

6:00

they used it as a hospital, mostly

6:02

a triage hospital for those troops. It

6:04

was called the Gordonville Receiving Hospital. So

6:08

these troops would come in via

6:10

those train lines again and now

6:12

these troops are wounded, they're dying,

6:14

they have various diseases. So

6:16

the hospital was, like

6:18

I said, a triage hospital where

6:21

they would very quickly treat whatever

6:23

the ailments were, the

6:25

wounds were, mostly through amputations

6:28

and a lot through just

6:31

patching up and such. And then they would stick

6:33

them outside after they were triaged, they would stick

6:35

them outside and people would take them up and

6:38

put them back on the train lines to go

6:40

to larger hospitals like Richmond or

6:42

Charlottesville or something like that. So

6:45

while a lot of soldiers came

6:47

through that hospital, about

6:49

70,000 troops went through that hospital in

6:53

its time of operation between

6:56

1962 and 1865, only

7:01

about 1% of them actually died

7:03

there. So there was roughly 660

7:06

Confederate troops that died there and

7:08

about 23 Union soldiers that died

7:10

there because they did accept some

7:13

Union troops as well. It's

7:15

interesting to think, you know, 1% sounds

7:17

like a small number but then you take 1% of

7:20

70,000, it's like, okay,

7:22

600 some people dying in one

7:25

location that was not a traditional

7:27

hospital is a pretty high number.

7:31

Exactly, yeah, exactly. So when you think about

7:33

it, and because those men were dying and

7:35

there's still troops coming in to be triaged,

7:37

they didn't have anything to do with them.

7:39

So what they did is they actually had

7:41

a field right behind the

7:43

hospital where they just dug a big

7:45

hole and started plopping these troops in, their bodies.

7:48

So they would essentially just put these bodies in there

7:51

and bury them. And then the next guy that died,

7:53

they just put him on top of him and bury

7:55

him. And so that continued until

7:57

about, like I said, until the hospital. was

8:00

closed in 1865. So

8:03

later those men that were buried there,

8:05

they were interred at a nearby cemetery,

8:07

but up until that time, when

8:10

they could get back to that, there were just about 700

8:13

men, their bodies were just

8:15

laying out there behind this field, behind the hospital

8:17

in this field. And

8:19

so after the hospital closed in 1865,

8:22

and during the reconstruction, it was

8:24

returned to a hospital, yeah, a

8:26

hotel. And, but

8:29

it was also used as an education

8:31

center for free slaves. So those that

8:33

were freed from the Civil War, they

8:35

needed a place to be educated. And

8:37

so this hotel that was a hospital

8:39

was now turned back into a hotel

8:42

and an education center. It

8:44

did function as a hotel until about 1970. And

8:46

then the tourism began

8:48

to decline in the area. So then

8:51

it was it was bought by the city

8:53

of Gordonville, and is now the Exchange Hotel

8:55

and Civil War Museum. So it

8:57

does have a long and storied history.

8:59

And because of that, there is a

9:01

lot of reports of paranormal activity, both

9:04

in the hotel itself, and also in

9:06

what's called the summer kitchen, which is

9:08

a small outbuilding that sits adjacent to

9:11

the hotel. Let's talk for a moment

9:13

about the atmosphere in the town when

9:15

the war is going on. And

9:17

the people the people of the

9:19

Gordonville area are,

9:21

you know, they're

9:23

seeing what was once this opulent

9:25

hotel, this is beautiful place now

9:28

it's this, you know, it's completely

9:30

upended as is most of the country

9:32

at that moment in time. So it's not like, oh, the

9:34

hotel just has gone to hell, like everything is, you know,

9:36

not in the greatest shape, and they're in the middle of

9:38

a war. But I mean, that in

9:40

itself, I mean, the emotion of just

9:42

seeing everything dramatically change from, from, you

9:44

know, one to a complete 180 on

9:47

what it was to something else. And what's the

9:50

what's the atmosphere in the town like, as

9:52

this hospital ends up seeing 70,000

9:54

plus soldiers come through during the

9:56

war? You

10:00

know, there is that feeling of, one,

10:02

pride in their soldiers that have gone off to

10:04

war to fight, but then also you've got the

10:07

realization that our guys are

10:09

coming back and they're dying and, you

10:11

know, not just our guys from Gordonville, but from

10:14

all of the Confederate regiments that are out

10:16

there. So, you know, you have

10:18

people that are volunteering to be nurses. You have

10:20

people that are actually being, you

10:22

know, pressed into service as

10:25

runners or nurses or

10:28

essentially assistant personnel to help these doctors

10:30

that have come to do all of

10:32

this triage. So, for example, you know,

10:34

there are reports of these women that

10:36

were pressed into service as nurses that

10:38

couldn't handle it and they ended up

10:40

committing suicide. There's four reports of nurses

10:43

that actually killed themselves because they couldn't

10:45

handle what they were seeing. There

10:47

is a report of a young child in

10:50

his early teens that, you

10:53

know, the report is that he was kind

10:55

of pressed into service to be a runner

10:57

boy to do all these errands and he

10:59

couldn't handle it either. So, he ended up

11:01

hanging himself as well. So, you know, there

11:03

is that very

11:05

morbid feeling

11:07

that is going on through the town at this

11:10

time just because they are

11:12

seeing that death. And again, there's nothing that

11:14

they really can do because it is moving so

11:16

quickly because of the train lines. And again,

11:18

that's why they're having to just throw these men

11:20

that are dying into the field in the

11:22

back as well as moving them from the hospital

11:24

back onto the trains to go to those

11:26

larger hospitals. Sure.

11:29

Being that it did offer

11:33

services and care to

11:35

Union soldiers as well, one,

11:39

you can make your assumptions. This

11:41

was primarily a Confederate hospital, correct?

11:44

Yes, absolutely. So, a majority of

11:46

them, but they weren't turning away any

11:49

of those Union troops that came in, albeit

11:51

it was a smaller number. They're

11:53

not turning them away, but one has to

11:55

guess, are they getting as good of care

11:58

for the day as they are? their

12:00

own would have been getting. One

12:03

would hope. One would hope, yes. One

12:06

would hope, yes. One would hope, but one

12:08

would wonder as well, just seeing as their

12:11

ambivalence for the bodies once they had created

12:13

a mass grave out back, you'd

12:16

have to wonder if that is,

12:20

I don't know, just speaking to human nature of

12:23

the time and one would

12:25

hope. I'm sure there were some that did and

12:27

I would have to wonder if there were

12:29

some that did not and I wonder if any of that

12:33

plays into any of

12:35

this as well in terms of the haunting of

12:37

not getting adequate care, the disposal

12:39

of the bodies in the way

12:41

that they did and any sort

12:44

of anger or

12:48

angst that still is in

12:50

existence because of that. It's

12:52

one of those angles that I kind of wonder about with this.

12:56

I'm sure, you know, there could be absolutely

12:58

anger and resentment towards inequality of care

13:01

and, you know, again, I would hope that

13:03

those professional doctors that came in would treat

13:05

everybody equally, but you just never know. I

13:09

haven't found anything in my research that would

13:11

say that they were treated inferior, but

13:14

you never know. Probably not something

13:17

that would be necessarily documented either

13:20

and no one is exactly around anymore

13:22

to be like, yeah, my uncle's Bernie.

13:25

He saw them come in there and, you

13:27

know, they just they ask their cigars out,

13:29

nothing like that that doesn't

13:31

exist. So

13:35

very interesting. Obviously, such

13:37

a structure that sees

13:41

all the way up to the war through

13:43

the war, it has seen a lot structures

13:46

that don't go through wars That

13:49

are simply hotels that are meeting places

13:51

that are on the rail lines. They

13:54

See a lot of coming and going

13:56

and families, you know, coming and seeing

13:58

each other and. Rating and all

14:00

that. There's a lot of emotions is fraught with

14:03

that, but then you add the war into it.

14:05

And this place opens back up as a

14:08

hotel after the war. Or you may

14:10

have mentioned it to earlier, how far after

14:12

The Ward did it does become a hotel

14:14

once again. How many years is span was

14:17

that before? they said hey, we're open

14:19

for business Welcome to the days in. Every

14:23

function and from what I can tell

14:25

up until about thinking seventies and and

14:27

then is geared towards and started away

14:29

in a little bit and you know

14:31

there's click away as of moving goods

14:33

and services rather than the trains and

14:35

so it really did start to decline

14:37

at that point and now I guess

14:40

at it as function as the The

14:42

Exchange Hotel and Civil War Museum and

14:44

it's fascinating because when you walk into

14:46

it and in each new see this

14:48

opulent hotel because it has been very

14:50

well maintained and you just had. Teachers

14:52

are going back in time in a

14:54

sitting on the border into watching the

14:56

trains go by looking out across the

14:58

mountains and you can see where deal

15:00

occasion that people would build actually relax

15:03

and news and a little bit of

15:05

money to stay in this type of

15:07

hotel or the rooms are grand there

15:09

they've got you know large ten twelve

15:11

foot ceilings, the hallways or why there's

15:13

there's a law or of wide staircases

15:15

suits a beautiful has held for what

15:17

it is against go into the rooms

15:19

and saw the hunters are now. Decorated

15:22

if you will Miss. Images

15:26

from the Civil War So you've

15:28

got pictures of of guys without

15:30

legs. Are you guys without arms or

15:32

people laying on of an operating

15:34

table? And actually have a a

15:37

surgery table they are that was a surgery

15:39

cable news during that time. it's an actual

15:41

surgery cable and according to the proprietor their

15:43

it still has blood on it. So there

15:45

there's a lot of reminders of that. She

15:47

can walk any new. see the grandeur of

15:49

the so Tell to begin with and then

15:51

you start walking through the rooms and you're

15:53

like wow You know this is a place.

15:56

Where blood. was spilled so

15:58

you can see why they would that

16:01

heaviness outside of

16:03

the paranormal reports, just that heaviness

16:05

that you

16:07

know what this room was used for

16:09

and what this establishment was used for. Sure.

16:13

I know you said it's a

16:15

museum. Is it a place you can still

16:18

stay or is this just for example purposes,

16:20

this is what the rooms look like. These

16:22

are example rooms. No,

16:25

you can't stay there any longer. You can

16:27

go take a day tour as well

16:29

as do private paranormal investigations which is what we

16:31

did. Okay. Let's

16:33

go back further not to just today but

16:36

let's go back to that massive time window

16:38

because we're talking what roughly

16:40

100 years or so of it

16:42

operating as a hotel after the

16:44

war? Correct. Okay.

16:47

Yeah. So let's go back

16:49

to what was the hotel like when it

16:52

became an operational hotel again after the war.

16:54

Was it up to a grand standard or

16:56

was it just kind of another place to

16:58

stay along the path? From

17:02

what I can tell it did return to

17:04

that grand standard. You

17:06

know like I said the ceilings are

17:08

high, the hallways are wide, the verandas

17:10

huge. You can sit out there

17:12

in rocking chairs and they really

17:14

tried to bring that

17:16

back because I mean the entire country was

17:18

under reconstruction period at the time and I

17:20

think some people wanted to, well a lot

17:22

of people wanted to kind of get back

17:24

to some normalcy if you will and

17:27

I think the Exchange Hotel tried to provide

17:29

that and plus you know that you

17:31

still got these major rail

17:34

systems that are converging in this town

17:37

and that are now being used again

17:39

for goods and services and it's a

17:41

junction point. It's a place where things

17:44

are actually exchanged for lack of a

17:46

better term. You got movement from one

17:48

train to another, people moving, goods moving.

17:51

So there still needed to be some

17:54

type of a place where you could

17:57

rest or wait for your next

17:59

train. And so all

18:01

indications are they went back to this

18:03

grand hotel and then after tourism started

18:05

to decline and the rails You know other

18:07

rail lines started opening and it wasn't

18:09

that big juncture that it was You

18:12

know like everything that started to to go into that period

18:14

of decline How

18:16

far back obviously you have people

18:18

starting to stay here. It's very

18:21

well known. This was a hospital

18:23

Lots of people came through. It's

18:25

no secret what had happened in

18:28

this this hotel And

18:31

obviously ghosts and paranormal and all that,

18:33

you know It was not what it

18:35

is today as far as

18:37

how it's viewed or or what it is But

18:39

there was also you know, there was more superstition

18:41

at the time too That

18:44

would be readily and socially acceptable

18:48

In talks of ghost stories and just kind

18:50

of accepted as well, you know, that's part

18:52

of life But it is what it is

18:54

How far back do do the ghost stories

18:56

go with this hotel after the war where

18:58

people started? Reporting seeing

19:01

things and experiencing things there. How far back

19:03

can you track that whether it just be

19:06

Legend and a story passed down or

19:08

what's the furthest back that you found?

19:12

For my research and from what we've been told through

19:14

some of the tours that we've had there it

19:17

started almost instantaneously after the war You

19:20

know reports of shadow figures reports

19:23

of noises footsteps Moaning

19:27

crying those type of things were

19:29

reported There was a report that

19:32

said had carried on through since the Civil War

19:34

of the guy named Major Richards

19:37

who was staying at the hotel

19:39

when he found out or staying in the summer

19:41

kitchen When he found out that

19:43

his wife had cheated on him, so he ended

19:46

up killing her and then hanging himself But

19:48

the rumors are before he hung himself He

19:51

made a promise that he would haunt the

19:53

property forever and All

19:56

indications are that that has come true.

19:58

There's a lot of paranormal investigators that

20:00

go in or or day tour people

20:02

that go in and experience

20:05

some type of you

20:07

know either apparition or paranormal activity

20:10

or feeling that they associate with

20:12

this major they call him the

20:14

major and so I think

20:17

pretty much after the wars

20:19

when some of those reports and ledges really

20:21

started. Wow so it really

20:23

does go back quite a ways. Are

20:28

there any accounts of people

20:30

just staying at the hotel and what

20:32

they experienced in detail any stories other

20:34

than just yes people reported ghostly sightings

20:36

and noises are there any specific accounts

20:38

that you've heard of maybe even first-hand

20:41

from people who had stayed there back

20:43

in the 60s or 70s or anything

20:45

of that nature? Not

20:48

really that I found that have been

20:50

documented mostly just through word of mouth

20:53

you know a friend of a friend stayed

20:55

here one time that sort of thing but

20:59

you know a lot of those accounts are

21:01

being backed up if you will

21:04

by paranormal investigators who have gone

21:06

in and experienced similar

21:08

things so for example one

21:11

of the reports are that there's a woman

21:13

who used to be a slave and

21:15

a servant and a cook in the in the summer

21:17

kitchen and the reports are

21:20

that she appears as a

21:22

shadow figure or if you

21:24

ask her what she's cooking she'll say fried

21:26

chicken and you see her

21:28

walking between the two buildings on some

21:30

instances and these have been documented by

21:32

other paranormal investigators and again these are

21:34

stories that have been passed down that

21:36

we are now getting documentation of. When

21:41

you let me ask you this how

21:43

did you become interested in this

21:46

this property what was it that struck

21:48

you obviously other than being haunted what

21:50

was the what was the beginning of

21:52

the story and your connection with it?

21:57

For us and my team really we

22:00

We really try to look for

22:02

those locations that are historic in

22:04

nature, that have a really great

22:06

story, that even if we

22:08

go in and do a paranormal investigation and

22:11

we find nothing, we can still put a

22:13

great story out there that most people would

22:15

not know about. So, we

22:17

can go to the larger locations like

22:19

Waverly Hills or Moundsville Penitentiary, but most

22:22

people know those histories, most people know

22:24

those stories and those legends. What

22:26

we like to do is find

22:29

the smaller locations that, through the

22:31

paranormal world, that they may have a

22:33

reputation, but for the general public, most

22:35

might not know those stories. And for

22:37

us, the history is the driving force

22:39

behind what we do. So when

22:41

we came across the Exchange Hotel, one

22:43

of our members lives in Virginia and it

22:46

was kind of her deal to

22:48

scope out some locations that we could visit

22:50

in Virginia. And she found the

22:52

Exchange Hotel. When we

22:54

started researching it on our own before

22:56

we even went there, we were just

22:59

fascinated by the transformation from hotel

23:01

to triage hospital, back to

23:03

hotel to now a museum.

23:06

And that's just something that we really felt that we

23:08

wanted to investigate and get that story out. And

23:11

then secondary was to find

23:13

any paranormal activity to back

23:16

up those claims that have already been put forth. I

23:19

see. So when you first

23:21

went in there to do an investigation

23:23

and you said, was

23:26

it the first time you'd been into the building when

23:28

you went in for an investigation? Let me ask you

23:30

that first. It

23:32

was. So what we do is

23:34

we actually like to take a day tour

23:37

before we actually go in for the night.

23:39

So we took a day tour on the

23:41

Thursday before we did our Saturday investigation. And

23:43

we spent a lot of time there just

23:45

kind of getting the lay of the land,

23:47

if you will, just kind of looking around,

23:49

spending a couple hours there, trying

23:51

to process what it looks like and where

23:53

we would set up our equipment. And then we

23:55

went in and did the investigation the following Saturday.

23:59

What was it like? for you and your team

24:01

when you went in for the very

24:03

first time on that day tour, that

24:05

day trip of wandering into that building,

24:07

how did it feel for you? What

24:10

were you experiencing? Was it what you

24:12

expected? Walk us through that. Well,

24:16

I'll kind of step back a little bit

24:18

and start with the town of Gordonsville. You

24:20

know, when you start researching these places, you start

24:23

to kind of picture in your mind what

24:25

it would look like. And so when we

24:27

drove through Gordonsville on that Thursday, it was

24:30

pretty much what we pictured. It's a very quaint little town.

24:33

There are railroad lines that go through it

24:35

and you cross over those. But it really

24:37

is kind of like stepping back in time.

24:39

And then when you pull up to the

24:42

hotel, it looks

24:44

like a very large three-story

24:46

house. And

24:48

so when you kind of step

24:50

back and realize that this was the

24:52

Oculent Hotel that we've been

24:55

researching, it's a pretty surreal feeling to know, okay, we're

24:57

about ready to go in and kind of step back

24:59

in time, if you will. So

25:01

when we went into the hotel

25:04

itself, it really

25:06

was for us to step

25:08

back in history because, like I said, it

25:10

is set up with those

25:13

displays outlining how it

25:15

was used as a the triage

25:18

hospital, a lot of Civil War

25:20

memorabilia, if you will, artifacts. And

25:23

so you walk through

25:25

it again, it's a three-story building, and you

25:28

walk through it and you really start to

25:30

feel like you step back in

25:32

time, step back into history. You know, the floor

25:34

is still a creek. They're all original

25:36

hardwood. You know, you see the

25:38

large rooms, the high

25:40

ceilings, the large veranda. And

25:43

then you put yourself in the hotel situation where,

25:45

okay, this room is, if

25:48

you're back in the 1850s, this room is massive.

25:52

But then when you try to squeeze in a surgery

25:54

table and six recovery

25:56

pots, it starts to become very

25:59

small. So when you have to look at it from

26:02

both angles, which to us

26:04

is interesting, and then starting

26:07

to couple that with the paranormal stories

26:09

and the legends that we've been told,

26:12

you really do start to feel like,

26:14

yes, there is some heaviness here. There

26:16

is some residual energy and

26:18

probably some energy that is willing to interact

26:21

with you if you go in with the

26:23

right intentions. So

26:25

going in for then the investigation, how

26:28

did you prepare, what were your plans

26:30

for the investigation that you and your

26:32

team did to go in and check

26:34

out this building? Well,

26:37

let me start back one and go back to the day

26:39

tool for just one second. Yeah. As

26:42

I told you, there's a summer kitchen and

26:45

that sits on the outside of the main

26:47

building, the main hotel. So when you walk

26:49

into that summer kitchen, it's

26:51

set up like a small cavern area at

26:53

the first level. You've got a little fireplace

26:55

and that's where the cooking would be done.

26:58

And then you go upstairs and there's two bedrooms, which

27:01

is where the servants would sleep. And

27:04

so the reports there in that house

27:06

is that that was where Major Richards,

27:08

as I spoke about before, found out

27:10

that his wife was cheating and he

27:13

killed her and then he hung himself

27:15

in a tree outside. So

27:17

the reports are that when you go up to

27:20

one of the rooms upstairs, there's a heaviness that

27:25

the spirit of the major does not like women. And

27:28

my team is all female. So

27:30

there was three of us that had walked in there. Again, this

27:32

is on the day tour. There are three of us that had

27:35

walked in there and we always carry a voice recorder with us

27:37

during those day tours. And

27:39

one of my team members had said,

27:41

remind me why she doesn't go into this

27:43

room, meaning the proprietor, why doesn't she go

27:46

into this room? And I say, she doesn't

27:48

like this room. It creeps her out. And

27:51

when we went back and listened to

27:53

that reporting, you hear a male behind

27:55

us laughing, kind of like

27:57

an evil he, he, he, he, he laugh. So

28:00

for us, we listened to it that

28:02

night. For us, it really started our

28:04

investigation out in

28:06

an excited manner because we had already caught an

28:09

EVP and that was just during the day tour.

28:12

So during that day

28:14

tour, we also set up a look and

28:17

scout out where we're gonna set up our cameras,

28:19

where we're gonna set up our laser grids, our

28:21

trigger items and such. So when we went back

28:23

on Saturday, we really had in our minds where

28:26

we wanted cameras placed, where we

28:28

wanted our trigger items, what type of

28:30

EVP session questions we were gonna

28:32

ask and some different

28:35

things that we were gonna try in

28:38

order to communicate with the spirits that we felt were still

28:40

there. That's

28:42

really amazing where you already had

28:44

that interaction with

28:47

that male figure, with that story that's

28:49

behind it of what

28:51

had happened there. What's interesting to

28:53

me is the fact that you

28:56

have all those, that death in that building there's

28:59

this one that really stands out that happened

29:01

after the fact or after

29:03

the war that is such

29:07

a big point of this building. And

29:11

we'll talk more about that in a moment and more

29:13

of what was found. But

29:15

do you think that in this

29:17

building, just

29:20

because of all the death and all of

29:22

the sadness and everything that had occurred there

29:25

during the war, that that lent it to

29:27

be not such a positive

29:29

place that there was already such a

29:32

strong emotion in there that could also

29:34

pull the living down with it

29:37

essentially into a depressive state, into doing

29:39

irrational things. I'm not saying that because

29:41

of all the people that died there

29:43

that this man, then after

29:46

he found out his wife was cheating on him that he

29:48

killed himself. But do you think

29:50

that that plays a role in anything when

29:53

it comes to the paranormal? You

29:56

know, it made some extent for

29:59

the... major and I'm just speaking

30:01

just hypothetically you know for the major he's

30:04

already gone through a war he's

30:06

already seen death and so I would

30:08

imagine that at that point death is

30:10

not something that's very scary to you

30:12

anymore and so maybe

30:14

that's the reason why you know he thought

30:17

he had something happy

30:19

in his wife and when he

30:21

found out she was cheating on him you

30:23

know death is just a

30:26

natural part of life now for this guy. We've

30:28

seen it he's lived it he's been immersed

30:30

in it for several years so it

30:32

was nothing for him to kill himself

30:34

to kill her and then kill himself

30:37

and again that's just me speaking hypothetically

30:39

so whether or not the place had

30:41

an impact on him it may

30:44

have but I also feel it was also the

30:46

times that he had lived in and so I

30:50

would think maybe that would be a driving

30:52

factor more so than any residual

30:55

spirits that have been in the house or

30:57

the hotel. Yeah that wraps up part

30:59

one of our interview with Christi Sommer

31:01

of Soul Sisters Paranormal about the haunted

31:04

exchange hotel. In part two we're gonna

31:06

ask what was the ghost child or

31:08

who was the ghost child that Christi

31:11

and her team found inside the hotel?

31:13

What kind of trigger items were used

31:15

to try and entice the spirits to

31:18

come forward? Does an invite

31:20

need to be presented to spirits in

31:22

order for them to use a trigger

31:24

item or can it be done without

31:27

prompting? What is the

31:29

thought process when leaving out food or drink

31:31

for a ghost if they know they can't

31:33

consume it on the other side? Is

31:35

a spirit more likely to move on if

31:38

they know that their story has been told and

31:41

is it ever the role of the living to help the

31:43

dead cross over? Until

31:45

next time for the grave talks I'm Tony

31:47

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