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for a for loop. Hello!

1:18

Everybody I'm Lou Dobbs and welcome to

1:20

the Great America show! Thanks for being

1:23

with this! It turns out Joe Biden

1:25

isn't the only Marxist him and D

1:27

C who is well getting a little

1:29

slower. Take. A Listen to Senate

1:32

Majority Leader Chuck Schumer. Talking.

1:34

To the American people with a straight

1:36

face and telling them Joe Biden is

1:38

mental acuity. Is. Great and

1:40

any suggestion otherwise is right

1:42

wing propaganda. I'd talk

1:44

to President Biden, you know, regularly off,

1:47

sometimes several times in a week. I'm

1:49

usually several times in a week is

1:51

mental. Acuity is great. It's fine, it's

1:53

as good as it's been over the

1:56

years. I've been speaking to him for

1:58

thirty years since we. worked on the

2:00

Brady bill in the assault weapons ban when I was

2:02

a young

2:04

congressman and

2:08

uh... he's he's he's fine all

2:10

this right-wing propaganda that he's mental

2:12

acuity is declined is wrong he's

2:14

going to win the election because he has a

2:16

great record because uh...

2:19

more and more americans are seeing that

2:21

record if Schumer seriously

2:23

believes this president isn't a minute and

2:25

impaired he might be right there with

2:27

him don't you think our

2:29

guest today is alex jones the alex

2:32

jones and alex it's uh... always great

2:34

to see you it's been a long

2:36

while but we're delighted to have you here

2:38

and to have a chance to have a little talk

2:41

about what in the world is going

2:43

on in america i'm

2:46

glad you raised that up front because you sent me a

2:48

few questions but you didn't add that one and that's what

2:50

i was gonna say what is

2:52

it like when you add the top

2:54

show in the english speaking world we're

2:56

not you know trying to

2:59

be first place here but a bigger show the tucker out on fox

3:02

when you're on cnn reaching ten million people

3:04

a day conservatively predicting

3:09

twenty years ago you know eighteen

3:11

years ago everything that's happened

3:13

so our job is much easier as

3:15

patriots that are anti-globalist i

3:18

mean you pioneered on main street media the first

3:20

person ever break all this so i was gonna

3:22

ask you when you asked me questions what is

3:24

it like now to now

3:26

be here when the one must enjoy

3:28

a little girl sent all sound just

3:31

like you did twenty-something years ago well

3:33

it sounds like music to me because uh... i i

3:36

didn't hear any uh... by any like

3:38

voices like mine so i well i would

3:41

say i will preserve that you were

3:44

amazing throughout your career you started

3:47

uh... is a as skeptic of all

3:49

that is establishment and uh... you know

3:51

my hands off to you every dear

3:54

but i was out in the wilderness i mean i was out in

3:56

the wilderness i was a bush leaguer when

3:58

i was doing a youth And

4:00

it showed that freedom is popular.

4:03

You have the number one show, as I

4:05

said, covering freedom just like all the

4:07

top shows now are populist

4:10

anti-globalist. So I think that's a very

4:12

positive thing about the awakening that we've

4:14

reached. I've been a populist

4:16

all along. I've always said, you know, populist,

4:20

they say it like it's a dirty word. In

4:22

my view, it means people. And if you're

4:24

not for the people of this country,

4:26

who the hell are you for? So

4:28

if you don't call yourself a populist, I want

4:30

you to say exactly what you are, what you

4:32

do, because you sound like an

4:35

enemy of this great republic. And

4:37

I felt that way from the outset, as you suggest.

4:40

And I know this, that there are enough

4:43

voices. You were talking about Tucker and everyone

4:46

out there. I am

4:48

so delighted to have people with

4:50

strong and bright, principled

4:52

voices out talking about what matters

4:55

to this country. That's

4:57

a joy to me to watch it,

4:59

to still be part of it. I'm thrilled to be

5:02

still in the arena fighting. You know, I may not

5:04

land as many punches, but I sure do. Well,

5:07

I guess I'd land a few, but it's harder to take

5:09

if I'll put it that way. Go

5:11

ahead, Alex. Go ahead. No,

5:15

I just know when I'm coming on with you, but I

5:17

want to talk about you, because when I look at who

5:19

in the last 30, 40 years

5:21

has had the biggest effect against this

5:24

anti-American agenda. It's Ron Paul,

5:26

it's Lou Dobbs, and then kind of we all came

5:28

later. And I'm going to tell you what, we're Tucker.

5:30

I'm friends with Tucker. I love Tucker. He's amazing. Hopefully

5:33

he'll have you on his show soon. He should.

5:36

But I just look back to the

5:38

people that were telling me about this

5:40

first. My grandfather's, both my mother's dad

5:43

and my father's dad, they weren't on air. But

5:46

they were both aware of this because

5:48

they were learned, educated men. So

5:51

I just realized that it's like the rock in the

5:53

pond. So we can see the big waves

5:55

now out from the edge of it. But

5:57

I'm just saying Lou Dobbs was one of the original big

5:59

waves. rocks thrown in the pond. So, uh,

6:02

you know, I don't care about Hollywood people. I don't

6:04

care about sports people, none of that, but I do

6:06

get a little bit giddy talking to you because I'm

6:09

smart enough to look back and say, if there

6:11

wasn't Lou Dobbs for all

6:13

those years on air, uh, you

6:16

know, the only person in mainstream media saying, and we

6:18

would be in a lot of trouble today and we're

6:20

still in a lot of trouble, we're in a lot

6:22

better position thanks to you. So I know it's a

6:24

little bit, uh, little bit, uh,

6:26

about me groveling here, but I'm not, we

6:29

need to recognize the people that were, you

6:31

know, trailblazers and you're a Maverick brother. Well,

6:34

thank you. And I take that as high praise

6:36

and coming from you, uh, you know, I, I

6:38

was, uh, you were talking about being out in

6:40

the, the, the Bush, you were, you

6:42

were only in the Bush because people were scared

6:44

to death of you in that establishment. And they

6:46

were putting you back as far as they could,

6:48

as long as they could. And you broke through

6:50

and, uh, uh, hallelujah brother. And

6:53

it's, and it's like you say, it

6:55

is a, it's a great

6:57

gathering. These voices now, uh,

6:59

to hear them taking up the

7:01

issues that matter instead of the, the

7:03

Pablum of the mainstream national corporate

7:05

legacy, whatever you want to call

7:08

Marxist media, uh, people are

7:10

wising up to it in a hurry. And

7:12

it's, uh, it's wonderful to see. And the

7:14

question only now is, is

7:16

it, uh, soon enough, uh, because we're sitting

7:19

here 10 months away from an election. Uh,

7:21

it's, I, I truly believe it. Uh, you know, a

7:23

lot of people say it's existential. It's all of this.

7:26

I think it's our last best chance, uh,

7:28

period. And we got to, we got to

7:30

move ahead. I want to

7:32

ask you back in those days, if you

7:34

could have ever have imagined, uh, in

7:37

your earliest days that this country would

7:39

have a 2000 mile long border

7:41

that they turned over to the Mexican

7:44

drug cartels, there's no middle man. Biden

7:46

just handed it over to the cartels

7:48

and the border patrol is afraid to

7:50

get near it, uh, the, uh, the

7:52

national guard has to on their side

7:54

edge up to it. But

7:56

No one is dealing with the reality

7:58

that is the car. Hells Control

8:01

Mexico and our border. Agents

8:04

total worldwide. Are you know bad? Twenty

8:06

some years go near exposing in the

8:08

last decade on Fox Business all adds.

8:11

It was a problem but but but

8:13

not but other fifty times or more

8:15

like to have now is is road

8:17

warrior bizarre. You don't have to go

8:19

looking for smugglers or kids we loaded

8:21

mans wealthier parents. You go there freeman

8:23

thirty minutes and you are just I

8:26

know I I'm. Dizzy.

8:28

Or stone death by how insane it

8:30

is. And and I'm flying to the

8:32

border and being groped to get there

8:35

and grub to fly back. And

8:37

is illustrates how our side as is

8:39

all the security airport. But. In

8:42

the border is completely wide open and the

8:44

border patrol. To. Due to their

8:46

brain. Irritation has been

8:48

turned into a facilitator of the

8:50

crime and it just shows the

8:52

social contract broken. We know the

8:54

Nc O's the Your Spouse or

8:56

Fox Business without your troubles. Finally

8:59

homeowners are seeing these Democrats. We

9:01

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are some in business for democrat

9:07

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9:09

but also how them from Forty

9:11

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9:15

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and Paemen. Will collapse

9:20

the contrary and that's exactly was designed

9:22

to do so. That's why I have

9:24

a sickening see. Like you know I'm

9:26

optimistic consuming awakenings like as know what

9:28

you said tell its crunch time isn't

9:30

tuck them the of the danger with

9:32

a nice. And really feel that

9:35

America is that the crossroads right else

9:37

was the most portal actually and in

9:39

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9:41

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9:43

As you know elections are only a

9:46

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9:48

stuff is free. set of the little

9:50

test whether or something and a zip

9:52

ties with his is good is truly

9:55

amazing that work this point has for.

9:58

it is amazing and were We're talking with

10:00

the amazing Alex Jones. We're going to take

10:02

just a quick break. We're going to be

10:04

right back. We're talking with

10:07

Alex Jones about the things that matter and

10:09

matters most. Of course, this country,

10:11

the United States of America. You don't hear

10:13

people say United States of America a lot,

10:15

do you? You don't even hear

10:17

them talk about the United States anymore. They'll sort

10:19

of whisper America,

10:22

but they won't. That was my

10:24

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12:24

force up and in. As a

12:26

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12:28

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12:30

My friend by said point blank

12:32

to bid for some. I talked

12:35

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12:37

was a problem when the in

12:39

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12:41

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12:44

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12:46

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12:49

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12:51

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12:53

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12:56

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12:58

credit. These agree patriots are We

13:00

right now are facing total surveillance.

13:03

We are facing a total loss

13:05

of constitutional. Rights because the American

13:07

people are taking it on. How

13:10

much more can we take? the

13:12

house? Or absolute I.

13:14

I look at Tucker for years ago. He

13:16

gets a call from the an essay and

13:18

you're being spied on. He

13:20

talks about it. They don't and I

13:22

am. Atlanta Wash Symposiums Yeah, we've got

13:25

your private messages and we've got transcripts

13:27

your phone calls. Sad as a huge

13:29

felony. Against a journalist. And.

13:31

Nixon. Was. Removed from

13:33

office for far less. And so

13:36

there's this emboldened. Arrogance

13:38

to all of it. and. I

13:41

don't like Obama but he shouldn't mean spot

13:43

on by the and I say and then

13:45

we have probably noticed a tribe. And

13:48

then and then problem of presidential

13:50

elected trump and then applied what's

13:52

the right terms of nominee Trump

13:55

and and and then and then.

13:58

He was the President's But the point

14:00

is the entire time. They. Were

14:02

spying on him. Trying to

14:04

find something. Said. They.

14:07

Didn't find his wife was Saturday President

14:09

legs for president. They have to fake

14:11

impeachments and the rush to get an

14:13

animal. Watch him to marshal hearings. Six.

14:16

Years ago. And they're just

14:18

flat out ourselves as a Russian agents. Ever

14:20

been to Russia that involves a nice you

14:22

know nothing about Russia when it comes to

14:24

being parents but urges say on a Russian

14:26

agents all of Trump's supporters russian agents because

14:28

they're the global as that are selling out

14:30

time for it. And so they

14:33

need a project on the Us that

14:35

we're the unfaithful once him so he

14:37

other general public knows is not true

14:39

but they use that designation. To.

14:42

Spy on us and it's totally

14:44

illegal. And. Soviet were kind

14:46

of already inside. The. Tyranny

14:48

to completely the the question is, how high

14:50

are they going to turn it up? To

14:53

you you're right in are just

14:55

were of do they stop if

14:58

they stop at all We are

15:00

right now and the national mainstream

15:02

media's will not acknowledge. That.

15:04

These Marxists who control the

15:06

Democrat party, the Mark Dems

15:08

who are the masters of

15:10

this puppet President Biden. They

15:12

control the entire Federal government.

15:15

This. Is this is no joke anymore?

15:17

This is not a party that's

15:19

interested in politics. This is a

15:21

party that's interested in Dominion and

15:23

they mean to possess power in

15:26

perpetuity And me while we have

15:28

a we have a fight over

15:30

the national or the Republican National

15:32

Committee or were having a fights

15:34

over elect tours and and stuff

15:36

to set the margins with. The

15:38

reality is that government of ours

15:40

is in the hands of a

15:42

foreign power. That Foreign power? I

15:44

don't mean. In terms of geography

15:46

I mean in terms of foreign

15:48

in the sense that it is

15:50

alien to everything this country stands

15:52

for. The people who are the

15:54

marxist dems who control that are

15:56

aliens unto themselves and to the

15:58

rest of his. Contrary, we are

16:01

looking at a gesture at a desperate

16:03

or inflection point in our history and

16:05

it's of whether or not we have

16:07

the guts to stand up to the

16:10

conflict that is surely comics. Will it

16:12

be open conflict? I don't know. but

16:14

it will be conflict and there will

16:16

be pain and there will be loss

16:19

and there will be sacrificed. Our and

16:21

there's no way around it and people

16:23

have to steal themselves to that. And

16:26

I don't know if the American people

16:28

have that in their spine, right? Now.

16:31

Unless right? live and your separate. I

16:33

learned so much from you. We.

16:35

Think of Russia or China and are certainly adversaries.

16:37

China's when we out of control and evil and

16:40

hugely one of the democratic party. Him and people

16:42

like my for coddled on republican side so you

16:44

it's a huge real threat. But. That

16:46

the the globalists, the leftist, the marxists.

16:48

they really hate America even when they

16:51

run as they still see it because

16:53

I'm a christian background because it did

16:55

opposed the Soviet Union of things as

16:57

the enemy. And they are

16:59

the main threat and I am at.

17:01

They are like a foreign government. They

17:03

are a fifth column. They.

17:05

Really are an alien groups to our

17:08

country? Black Rock's in the big banks

17:10

and the money and thus Hollywood of

17:12

the whole woke saying is just a

17:14

corporate. Told

17:16

with all these minions literally worships

17:18

the contrary and is bigger threat

17:21

a shiny As I'd say, it's

17:23

twenty percent of friends. And

17:25

and Russia's temper sell a threat. But. That's

17:27

a thirty percent of thread. Is.

17:29

Our own domestic enemies, that of openness

17:31

up to Islamic invasions and a criminal

17:33

invasion that of run our dollar down

17:36

or that are similar in of a

17:38

mentally ill people. In. Charge

17:40

Flying Airplanes. I mean, they

17:42

are, Admittedly, Trying

17:45

to bring now me all structured. Digits.

17:48

Problem And I'm unsure Clark feminists is

17:50

on steroids. What? What's crazy is

17:52

there in the house? Sit there undermining that

17:55

they're going to be destroyed by it. So

17:57

that are. So what are the Oswald? Them

18:00

for to sick ideologies. That.

18:02

That you really are mentally ill at and

18:04

I don't think they think two, three, four

18:06

steps ahead. I agree with you. I

18:09

don't know. Because. There's a big

18:11

awakening happening. the average conservative or populace a

18:13

christian now knows. Wait, we're in trouble. But.

18:15

I still don't think they knew what you

18:17

do. Twenty years ago, Hundred forty years ago

18:19

of just out. Diabolical.

18:22

For Sears and I just don't know

18:24

the even our best people realize that

18:26

were two minutes to midnight and that

18:29

this is this is the crisis not

18:31

as of America would civilization because of

18:33

the global was get full control and

18:35

they can eradicate the idea of American

18:37

freedom. Then all we have as call

18:40

Schwab and Bill Gates's ideology of scientific

18:42

tyranny and so that's why they're at

18:44

war with us because that even though

18:46

some for superpower, the freedom we generated

18:48

that these the the productivity it's still

18:51

it's existential. To them because they want

18:53

to get rid of any ember of

18:55

freedom that they believed read night later

18:57

and display some. Vivid.

19:00

Or your as you're absolutely

19:02

right that if you look

19:04

at as in terms of

19:06

economics were looking at a

19:08

country which are are large

19:10

corporations are the sex industry

19:12

itself a massive capital of

19:14

valuations. Three trillion if you're

19:16

are a bit easier to

19:18

through or to go by.

19:20

Earth's Amazon Apple were tossing

19:22

trillions of dollars and three

19:24

your torture. Almost Ten Ten

19:26

trillion dollars in three companies

19:28

are. that's. Unheard of That they

19:31

is the idea that this country

19:33

can somehow survived or without being

19:35

stepped on by these elephants Are

19:37

we are the Ui or the

19:39

that the minions we are that

19:41

de minimis or if fragments floating

19:43

in space and they are are

19:45

the all powerful and we have

19:47

to find some way and which

19:49

to bring to heal the idea

19:52

or that does this marks as

19:54

government of ours is going to

19:56

be responses to the to the

19:58

people to the consent. Of the guy. I

20:00

remember you doing business knows whatever

20:02

it was two thousand or whatever.

20:05

And you are covering the breakup of

20:07

Microsoft that it was a monopoly on.

20:09

It was corrupted. deserved it's I look

20:12

at Bill Gates's corruption. other services supporters,

20:14

a layperson. It's nothing compared to the

20:16

three big elements of it. You just

20:18

mentioned Apples and and say Spoken and

20:20

you know Amazon and and Do Losers'

20:22

for Elephants And Martha Hamid. And

20:25

and microsoft as bad. I mean,

20:27

it isn't the answer trust busting, but there's

20:29

no energy for that now. If. There's

20:32

no energy and less so here

20:34

Elon musk and you are a

20:36

disruptor and you do not a

20:38

heel to the of to the

20:40

evil to the principal narrative of

20:42

these marxist stamps and in sodas

20:44

you've got the Fcc, you got

20:46

the F T C, and every

20:48

every every see you you. Have

20:51

a right after year and he'll be

20:53

performing before the Fcc. I think that

20:56

sweet spot that's where we are. We're

20:58

talking with Alex Jones, were talking about

21:00

whether or not to scrape Republic will

21:03

survive and it's up to you when

21:05

itself. Up to our to make it

21:07

will all tried to do our part. I

21:09

am sure we'll be right back Say with.

21:13

Lou Dobbs here armed. A

21:15

lot of that. lets you

21:17

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21:35

Oh, he'll be joining us

21:38

from his arms tonight. As

21:40

our final say, this country's

21:42

as homely. we're

21:50

talking with alex jones and alex

21:52

the idea that we have a

21:55

two thousand mile border is as

21:57

as i said that is why

21:59

open as long as you're paying

22:01

off the cartels because it's their

22:03

property now, not America's, not Mexico.

22:05

And by the way, the cartels

22:07

also are in charge of Lopez

22:09

Obrador, the president of Mexico and

22:12

everyone in his government. So where

22:14

do we stand and how in the

22:17

world is it there's not anyone in

22:19

this country, it seems to me, really

22:21

grasping the desperate moment that

22:23

we live in. And the American people

22:25

seem to be just sucking air through

22:28

their teeth waiting for somebody to say,

22:30

you know, maybe we should be a little outraged at

22:32

this. Well, look at the $90 million spending

22:35

package to Ukraine and

22:37

to Israel that they call a border package. And

22:40

I think they'll pass to the house. I hope they

22:42

don't. And the American people do get that there's

22:45

billions of NGOs to pay for more illegals.

22:48

And it basically gives Biden the power to even open

22:50

the border up more. And they see

22:52

right through it. So, but they feel powerless.

22:54

I mean, just like you and I, at

22:56

least we have platforms to warn people and

22:59

we have border patrol that are whistleblowing and we have

23:01

all this happening. But I

23:03

hate to use the World War Two analogy

23:05

or maybe an Eastern Europe analogy

23:08

after World War Two where Stalin's tanks

23:10

are rolling into your country and it's

23:12

wrong and it's terrible. You want it to stop,

23:14

but it's really happening. And so I think in

23:16

a way, because our government's been

23:18

seized, we're spectators to this. And

23:20

one of the biggest hopes is Trump

23:23

was wildly popular and not a perfect

23:25

person, none of us are, but would

23:27

shut this down overnight. It's

23:29

just fighting with nine

23:31

months left to try to get in there with

23:33

all these false indictments. This is

23:35

way better than any football game and sudden

23:38

death over time or basketball and overtime because

23:40

that stuff's fun and I enjoy it myself,

23:42

but it doesn't matter who wins the game

23:44

at the end of the day. This is

23:46

everything. This is our children. I've

23:48

got kids old enough now, but they have

23:50

grandchildren. I know you're a father and all

23:52

the rest of it. And it's just to

23:54

watch the establishment recklessly

23:57

flush all this security and freedom

24:00

down the toilet for a perceived

24:02

short-term bottom line really

24:04

shows they're disconnected. They're not the elitist

24:06

they say they are. They're not the

24:08

aristocrats they claim because an aristocrat is

24:10

not perfect. If you've got a ruling

24:13

class, they're supposed to hold up society.

24:15

They're supposed to try to build stability.

24:18

And instead, I know we've got

24:20

all these lawyers and politicians and

24:22

think tanks that just think they're

24:24

invincible. They go back to a great movie made about

24:27

the Deepwater Horizon that was based on

24:29

the transcripts of the

24:32

lawsuit and the British Decrullium criminal

24:34

trial. And so the

24:36

movie with Mark Wahlberg and Kurt Russell's

24:38

ex-law, we've seen it, but

24:40

it's based pretty much as close as you can get to what

24:43

really happened. And they get a

24:45

call from BP's headquarters in the US

24:47

in Houston. And they tell

24:49

the head engineer, the head of the plant, yeah, we're

24:51

spending 30 million a day to drill this super deep

24:53

well. We don't think we need to dump concrete on

24:55

the hole. He goes, let me do an

24:57

equation. He comes back to him and he says, if we

25:00

hit gas at any decent level, it

25:03

will blow up the plant.

25:05

They said, well, we're going to, by saving

25:07

$300 million in the next couple of weeks,

25:09

not putting concrete in the hole to pressurize

25:12

it, we're going to leverage that

25:14

mega extra billion dollars so we don't care. You're

25:16

ordered to do it. And

25:18

so the engineer said, we'll do

25:21

a stress test and just test what you said for

25:23

a few minutes. They did a stress test,

25:25

didn't blow up, turned it off. Just

25:27

the stress test hours later, blew it

25:29

up and killed a bunch of people

25:31

and the biggest wall spill in history.

25:33

And I don't think I know, I've

25:36

talked to a lot of insiders, it's

25:38

that corporate attitude of people in London

25:40

and Houston telling engineers on an oil

25:42

drilling platform with 40 foot thousand deep

25:44

well into the biggest reserve they ever

25:46

found. You don't need to follow

25:48

math. You just go ahead

25:50

and do whatever you want. And I

25:52

think that's the perfect allegory on an

25:54

even bigger scale of where we are.

25:57

We have reached lunatic level bizarnas from

25:59

the ruling class. us. No

26:01

question about it. And anyone who pays

26:03

attention to the stock market, for example,

26:06

has to be struck by the fact

26:08

that we're $34 trillion in debt. We've

26:11

got $2 trillion in annual

26:14

deficits. We have another

26:17

almost $10 trillion in external

26:19

debt. Then we also

26:21

have the Federal Reserve with another

26:23

$8 trillion on its balance sheet

26:26

that has to be worked off.

26:28

And meanwhile, you look over to

26:30

CNBC or Fox Business or whomever,

26:32

and you see these sell

26:36

side personalities saying, you know, you

26:38

got to buy, you got to

26:41

be X, B, Y, Chinese stocks

26:43

by the dozens. They're

26:45

pushing American investment and

26:48

savings into the Chinese

26:50

economy, which is madness

26:52

in of itself. It's

26:55

remarkable. Which is as you know, is imploding. I

26:58

mean, I'm not a business expert like you, but

27:00

I watch it. I'm like, wait, China's imploding. Why

27:02

am I watching CNBC? And it's almost all that

27:04

a China like I'm on a rocket side this

27:06

loop. But am I right? That's really bad advice.

27:08

I mean, this makes Kramer look like a good

27:10

guy. Well,

27:13

I, you know, Kramer, Kramer's a good guy. But

27:15

the fact is, he's also a corporatist guy.

27:18

And that's his world. And that's understandable. But

27:20

here's the real deal. This is the world

27:22

we all live in. And it matters where

27:25

we put our money. And it matters where

27:27

we invest our money. And it matters where

27:29

we put our plants because the simplest truth

27:31

that is in manufacturing is

27:33

that the greatest innovation, the

27:36

greatest inventions have to

27:38

be in proximity to

27:40

markets and the plants that

27:43

fabricate whatever the product may be,

27:45

whether it's a car, whether it

27:47

is advanced technology. And then, no,

27:49

no, you can have the best technology ever. But if you don't

27:51

have infrastructure to do it, you don't have it. And

27:54

if you don't have it in proximity to

27:56

your market, you're even dumber. And guess what?

27:58

You hear those, you know, that crying. That's

28:00

all those people who invested in those global

28:03

supply chains that screw up nearly every business

28:05

in this country. We're paying a horrible price

28:07

for it. And we're a more dependent nation

28:09

as a result. So let me ask

28:11

you though, I mean, I see what's happening in China. It looks

28:13

really bad. I know that'll drag us

28:15

down partially. We're pivoting to India, but how

28:19

can they be on CNBC and Bloomberg advising

28:21

people to go to China? I'm

28:23

not the big business guru like you, but that sounds

28:26

like really bad advice. Well, it's

28:29

not only, you know, it's just advice.

28:31

And the fact is if you're a corporatist,

28:34

it's wonderful advice. If you're a populist, it

28:36

sucks. I mean, let's be straight forward about

28:38

it. It's a terrible thing. Not for this

28:40

country, not to even be having the conversation

28:43

about building plants as Donald

28:46

Trump said, when he said he's going to bring back

28:48

all the outsourced jobs, all of the plants back

28:50

to America. There's so many out there. It's going

28:52

to take years to bring them home. But if

28:54

we don't, we're going to pay an

28:56

even heavier price. So

28:59

let me ask you this. Did I know you're interviewing me, but it's

29:01

true. You're smart. I mean, when comes the business, I'm

29:03

totally here. What is your, what is your

29:06

debt reckoning? Cause I'm an airman. So my show, you told me during

29:08

the break and cut, come in here in a couple of days. What

29:10

is your debt reckoning? Cause I'm trying to

29:12

tell my family they're, they're concerned. We, I

29:14

don't, I'm pretty smart. I don't know what's

29:16

going to happen financially. That's the one area

29:18

I'm pretty good at other predictions, but I'm like

29:21

a blind bad when it comes to finance and

29:23

the economy and the federal reserve and inflation. I

29:25

mean, what do you, and you said a

29:27

summation really things going on, Ludops. Well

29:30

in summation and

29:33

you're ending this with a, with a very good

29:36

question. And the reality is no one knows the

29:38

answer to it because the complexity

29:40

of this globalist economy that we've

29:42

constructed, uh, the derivatives

29:45

alone are exponentially, uh, greater

29:47

than the physical economy. And

29:49

the physical economy is

29:52

right now there's a veil between,

29:54

a veil, a curtain, a maybe

29:56

even an iron curtain between investors

29:58

and savers. taxpayers

30:01

and working people

30:04

and the financial

30:06

structure that is the lifeblood of it all.

30:09

It is right now such a complicated

30:11

economy for example in China we

30:13

don't know if their GDP goes up 5% or

30:16

10% whatever they say that's what it is because

30:19

there is no clarity and right now there

30:21

is no clarity on what they are saying

30:23

there's such a black box with derivatives in

30:25

China that's what it looks like

30:27

to me is like what's saying back when fried

30:29

or anybody they don't even know the Federal Reserve's

30:31

like oh it places down no it's up oh

30:34

we're in a race race lower to me it

30:36

looks like they don't know what they're doing. They

30:40

know what they're doing they just don't

30:42

care about the consequences and that's the

30:45

chief difference and by the way that

30:47

sounds like a political economy doesn't because

30:49

our politicians are thinking the same way

30:51

as the oligarchs and the corporatists and

30:53

that they're backing up their investments in

30:55

China other places at the

30:57

detriment of Americans. Oftentimes

31:01

with our question and certainly to their

31:03

own benefit but that's the beauty of

31:06

capitalism raw unfettered capitalism laissez-faire

31:08

capitalism Adam Fassett. They don't take

31:10

no responsibility for the consequences of

31:13

your action so long as they

31:15

drive profits. A true

31:18

capitalist takes responsibility and understands

31:20

the impact of society and

31:23

to all of his stakeholders or her stakeholders

31:25

and that is that was that was

31:27

America 1980 1990. Henry Ford was not unleashed. I'm

31:33

interrupted. Sorry go ahead. No you

31:36

were saying 1980 unleashed say it again. Well

31:39

I'm saying to you that we had

31:41

a compassionate conservatism we had a concerned

31:45

capitalism and a

31:47

responsible capitalism. What we're witnessing today

31:50

is a mad rush

31:52

to unexpected unknown and

31:54

unpredictable consequences. Take for

31:57

example the investments in China. It

32:00

could be a black hole. It could also be a fountain

32:03

of capital. We don't know the answer. Everyone

32:06

pretends they do. We take

32:08

our artificial intelligence. We don't know

32:11

whether the extension of artificial intelligence

32:13

is an extraordinarily efficient and utopian

32:15

world for all of us in

32:17

it, or whether there will

32:19

be no room for us in any

32:21

of what is transhumanistly walking. And

32:26

a world that is dominated by machines

32:28

rather than something cranked called a human.

32:32

Absolutely, it's just an incredible moment to

32:35

be alive. And it makes

32:38

my head spin because there's so many, like you said,

32:40

so many variables going

32:43

into it. And it seems like the

32:45

establishment only thinks first or second order.

32:48

They're not thinking out further what it's gonna do. Yeah,

32:51

and they also, and

32:53

I've just been given a signal that

32:55

this is your last question on your

32:57

show. A

32:59

lot of time. But the reality is

33:01

that right now, this is a country

33:04

with so many problems, desperate problems in

33:06

terms of how we're going to live.

33:08

And you mentioned your children and mine

33:10

and grandchildren in my case. You

33:13

know, we have a great investment in

33:15

their prospects and their future and this

33:17

nation's, I think destiny is

33:19

the way I look at this country's future. It

33:21

is a destiny. But only if

33:24

we ourselves live up to the

33:26

principles of our founders and

33:28

those philosophers and patriots

33:30

who made it possible. Alex

33:33

Jones, I wanna get graded

33:35

on my last answer. I insist

33:37

you've been asking all the, I have to get an

33:39

A, it's A through F. Well,

33:42

I'm interesting, but you're even more interesting.

33:44

It's true. And I'm gonna air this on

33:46

my show and you need to come on my show as soon as you can.

33:48

It's been 10 years. Dut

33:50

level, just past the business expert

33:52

and journalist, talk show host and

33:54

grandpa. When I look at my

33:56

children and they're getting old enough to get together

33:58

and you know, happy. get married and have

34:01

kids. It makes me physically sick because I

34:03

love them so much and they're the only

34:05

investor that matters. And I just

34:07

gut level looking at everything. Trump's not perfect,

34:09

but I can just feel Trump is going

34:11

to protect our future. Just gut level, not

34:13

as intellectual. I just want Trump. Because

34:15

at the end of the day, we have all the math,

34:17

the numbers, he's a good guy, he means well, he agrees

34:20

with us on most things. But gut

34:22

level, obviously better than Michelle

34:24

Obama or Gavin Newsom or

34:27

Biden or any of them. We need Trump.

34:30

Gut level, do you think Trump can make it through all

34:32

this and get in? A and B, what

34:34

can we do to get him in? Well,

34:37

the answer is he has to get in. He

34:40

is committed to that. I wish that more

34:42

Americans were as committed as he to

34:44

his leadership and to this great

34:47

nation. The MAGA

34:49

world, all of us deplorables, America

34:52

first, we're going to be there. But we've got to

34:54

do even more than just vote for him. We've got

34:56

to be part of our community. We've

34:59

got to be in those precincts and we've got

35:01

to be watching and we've got to be doing

35:03

and we've got to be telling anybody who doesn't

35:05

want our eyes on them, go

35:07

to hell. I'll be right here

35:09

watching over our democracy. And

35:12

you just step aside. That's where

35:14

we have to be. And from

35:16

there, I think we start to see excellent

35:18

results if we are living our lives in

35:21

our communities and taking charge of our communities

35:23

rather than letting this

35:25

world wash over us in terms

35:27

of big questions and nonsense spewed

35:29

by the propagandists that we call

35:32

a government spokesman.

35:35

Well, I know one thing's for sure in closing, thanks for having

35:37

me on, is that we're not

35:39

living in boring times. Anybody

35:41

that says I'm bored is not paying

35:43

attention. We are in extremely dangerous

35:46

but also very opportune times,

35:48

as the Chinese say, may live

35:50

in interesting times. That's a double meaning. Lou Dobbs, thank

35:52

you so much for having me on. Love you to

35:54

death, man. Thanks to Alex

35:56

Jones and thank you everybody for being with us.

35:58

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