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your entire order. Hello,

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everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show.

1:06

Great to have you with us. The

1:09

House Republican Party is preparing articles

1:11

of impeachment against Joe Biden. Congressman

1:14

Cory Mills of Florida is

1:16

the one filing. He says Biden

1:18

is coercing the Israelis, telling them

1:21

that they either cease their war

1:23

with Hamas or they'll stop all

1:25

funding. It's very clear

1:28

this for that quid pro quo. And that's

1:31

impeachable. New York civil

1:33

judge Arthur Ingeron is under investigation

1:35

now coming after claims surfaced that

1:38

he received advice from a prominent

1:40

New York attorney just weeks before

1:42

ordering the president to

1:45

pay a four hundred and fifty four

1:47

million dollar judgment. That

1:49

number was larger, apparently because

1:51

of what the attorney told

1:53

the judge. His advice

1:55

was reportedly to significantly inflate the

1:57

bond Trump had to pay. The

2:00

investigation has been brought by the New

2:02

York State Commission on Judicial Conduct. The

2:05

commission is trying to determine

2:07

whether Angaron violated judicial conduct

2:09

rules. Watching these New

2:11

York judges, I don't think that they

2:13

could violate New York conduct rules no

2:15

matter what they did. In

2:17

the judges' trial, Angaron claimed Trump and

2:20

each of the defendants participated

2:22

in aiding and abetting the

2:24

conspiracy. Stay with

2:26

me here, the conspiracy to commit

2:28

insurance fraud. It seems like

2:30

Angaron might be the one who's

2:32

guilty of committing a conspiracy. Our

2:35

guest today is Margo Cleveland. She's the

2:37

senior legal correspondent for The Federalist. And

2:39

Margo Cleveland, thanks and welcome to The

2:42

Great America Show. Great to have you

2:44

with us. Thanks for being here. Let's

2:47

start with your article and

2:50

your excellent reporting on

2:52

what is a president

2:54

to do. One

2:56

decides to withhold lethal

2:58

aid to an ally. The other

3:01

does the same. One

3:03

gets impeached, as you pointed out. And

3:05

one has a photo opportunity to talk

3:08

about what a glorious leader he is.

3:10

Talking about, of course, Joe Biden. Yes,

3:13

there's a double standard that we're seeing.

3:15

But the bigger picture is what

3:17

President Biden has done to

3:19

our ally, Israel. And

3:22

all he is doing by

3:24

withholding weapons, making these

3:27

types of announcements is

3:29

emboldening Hamas. They

3:31

realize that they just hold out long

3:33

enough that Biden will somehow think he

3:35

can pressure Israel. And

3:38

it is ignoring the fact that

3:40

we have American hostages still being

3:42

held in Gaza. Biden

3:44

is doing the exact wrong thing

3:46

here. He should be

3:48

demanding Hamas release the hostages and

3:51

having Israel do what they

3:53

need to end Gaza's reign.

3:55

Excuse me, Hamas's reign in

3:57

Gaza. It's

4:00

really, to me, it's

4:03

amazing. It's been six months. We

4:06

don't have accurate information about

4:08

those hostages. We don't

4:10

know how many are still alive. And

4:13

we don't have any sense whatsoever as

4:16

to why the Biden regime

4:18

has decided it has somehow

4:21

been empowered to meddle,

4:24

intervene in Israeli

4:27

politics and to take

4:29

on Benjamin Netanyahu while they're at

4:31

war. It's

4:33

crazy. It is

4:35

crazy. It's appalling. And you have

4:37

to wonder whether

4:39

he thinks this is a political

4:43

gain to him or if he just

4:45

has advisors who are running the show

4:47

who don't

4:49

want to defeat Hamas,

4:52

which is just inexplicable.

4:55

Well, so many people talk about the

4:57

influence of Iran within the State Department,

5:00

within the national security

5:04

apparatus of the United States

5:06

under Joe Biden. And

5:08

they have some considerable

5:10

justification for their claims.

5:14

But the idea that we should

5:16

expect more of an Anthony Blinken,

5:19

more of a Jake Sullivan, is

5:22

also a very

5:25

difficult posture for

5:27

anyone because they have proved

5:29

themselves to be inept. They've

5:32

been inaccurate in all of their pretense

5:35

to prescience when it comes to

5:37

foreign policy and particularly

5:39

U.S. foreign policy and predicting outcomes

5:42

in the Middle East in particular. And

5:46

it just goes on. And I

5:48

don't think anyone at this point should

5:51

any way be surprised that failure

5:53

after failure has been the result.

5:57

Absolutely. And I think the one positive

5:59

of the The failure and the

6:01

way the Biden administration is handling

6:03

it is that Israel no longer

6:06

is seeking to appease the United

6:08

States. They are not going to

6:10

back down on destroying Hamas and

6:12

making sure that this

6:14

type of Holocaust that happened

6:17

in October, making sure it

6:19

never happens again. It's

6:21

unfortunate that America is

6:23

going to suffer because it is a

6:25

decline in our strength in the world,

6:28

but I don't think in this case it's going

6:30

to have any impact on what Israel does. I

6:33

one hope so because that would make

6:35

us responsible for for their

6:38

their pain, their suffering, their

6:40

death in in war. I

6:43

precisely what we do not want to be.

6:45

We want to make certain that they are

6:48

victorious in their war against Hamas and

6:50

Iran. Every

6:53

other terrorist group in the region, nothing

6:56

less could be our goal. If

6:59

we have a rational leader in

7:01

the White House, we do not. I

7:04

cannot tell you who's running

7:06

this puppet government that

7:09

is has a front man by the name of Joe

7:12

Biden. But we're

7:15

we're in deep need of removing

7:17

them from the power structure of

7:19

the U.S. government. Let's

7:22

turn to also the role of this

7:25

Biden regime. And

7:27

it's it's pitifully feeble

7:30

response to these pro

7:32

Hamas demonstrators, protesters. And

7:35

a lot of people want to call them students. But

7:38

I believe that we're safe. We're

7:40

on safe ground saying that

7:43

most of the leaders

7:45

are professional agitators. They

7:47

have connections to terrorist

7:49

groups and are

7:51

working toward quite different goals than

7:53

any other college

7:55

protester would be at this point.

7:58

Obviously, the. The protests have

8:00

been organized and run by

8:03

professionals. And

8:06

this is shown the weakness of

8:08

both the administrations, the

8:11

board of trustees, the presidents

8:13

of these universities, with exception

8:15

of about maybe a handful.

8:18

They've been timid. They

8:20

have been weak. And they are

8:23

reflecting what Biden is demonstrating

8:25

from the White House. It looks like

8:27

a mirror image of

8:29

enfeeblement and actually

8:31

a strong preference for

8:34

the anti-Semitic nonsense

8:36

and violence that we're seeing on

8:39

these campuses. And that

8:41

is regrettable indeed. It

8:43

is. And to borrow a phrase of theirs,

8:45

the chickens have come home to roost. They've

8:48

spent way too much time with

8:51

academics thinking that

8:53

this type of coddling

8:56

and this frankly Marxism is something

8:58

to celebrate that you see the faculty

9:00

members probably joining in more than some

9:02

of the students. But the

9:04

government should be looking at who is

9:06

funding this because we're not talking about

9:09

peaceful protests. We're talking about

9:11

violence. We're talking about the trespass

9:13

to these private buildings. And

9:15

it should be stopped. It

9:18

should be indeed. And George Washington University,

9:20

you talk about chickens coming home to

9:23

roost. They're

9:26

modest, I'll be kind. They're modest

9:28

response to encampments,

9:30

to these protests that were

9:32

vicious and virulent.

9:36

And the president of George Washington

9:38

University finds herself trying, trying

9:40

to get local police help now

9:44

to keep her from being on the

9:46

guillotine list as the protesters put it,

9:49

threatening the beheading of her

9:52

and the members of her board of trustees.

9:56

We're seeing quite a,

9:58

it's quite a revelation right now.

10:00

I think to most Americans to

10:02

see who actually is behind what

10:04

they thought was perhaps a springtime

10:07

passing moment in demonstrations

10:09

by a bunch of students who

10:12

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10:15

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your thoughts right now about what we

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can, in your judgment, expect

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from this administration and from

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the Israeli government. Benjamin

13:09

Netanyahu does not suffer fools

13:12

and he's been called upon to suffer

13:15

a very powerful fool no matter how

13:17

weak he is. I

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don't think Israel is going

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to react in any way

13:25

that is going to harm

13:27

their ability to continue to

13:29

take a part and dismantle

13:31

Hamas. I have a feeling

13:34

what we're going to see is that the

13:36

White House will start to walk back their

13:38

comments, which I think we saw a little

13:40

yesterday from Biden saying no weapons to oh,

13:43

we just mean offensive weapons. And

13:46

I think that as opposed to their iron

13:48

dome. So

13:53

I see that it's going to be

13:55

that Biden has overstepped here. We've

13:57

seen yesterday some chatter of people who.

14:00

were never Trumpers who have actually said,

14:02

this is it for me, what

14:04

he has done, what president Biden has done,

14:06

he's lost my vote. We can't tolerate that.

14:09

So I think we're going to see some

14:11

walking back from Biden and we're going to

14:13

see that with Israel, they're going to continue

14:15

to move forward. They're going to do it

14:18

slowly, but I think they

14:20

always intended to do it. When

14:22

I say slowly, I mean methodically.

14:26

Carefully. Exactly.

14:30

Minimize losses. Absolutely.

14:32

Which they've always done, but we

14:35

saw as soon as Hamas came

14:37

back with their supposed acceptance

14:39

was, which was no acceptance

14:41

of a ceasefire is we'll give you a

14:43

bunch of dead bodies, which

14:45

of course the Israelis want back

14:47

any of the victims of the

14:49

murder, but they immediately went on

14:52

and took over the crossing and

14:54

that's going to change the game,

14:56

but they will continue to move

14:58

in my judgment methodically, carefully

15:01

and taking out. They can find

15:04

out where Hamas is firing these

15:06

weapons from in, in Rapa, which

15:09

is the other part that's just baffling that Biden

15:11

would be condemning Israel when they're

15:14

still using Rapa to target

15:16

the humanitarian crossings that Israel

15:18

had to shut down because

15:20

they were being targeted reopened.

15:23

And what does Hamas do?

15:25

They fire another eight weapons

15:27

to try to shut down the border

15:29

again. So Israel, I think is

15:31

going to continue forward with this and Biden's

15:33

going to end up having to walk it

15:35

back. Indeed.

15:39

Now we have reports that 3,500

15:41

bombs were not delivered to the

15:43

Israelis. Those bombs, smart

15:46

bombs, were not delivered

15:48

as a result, putting Israel in

15:50

the position of doing precisely

15:52

what the Biden administration claims that they

15:54

are trying to prevent, which is they

15:56

will have to use those dumb bombs

15:59

in an urban. area, the

16:01

Hamas terrorists have already

16:05

hardened it with, if you will, the

16:07

targets of the civilian population.

16:11

It's a disaster either way, and

16:14

it is

16:16

such a short-sighted administration,

16:18

or whomever is leading

16:20

them. It makes on its

16:23

face always no sense at all, and

16:25

leads to results that no one should

16:27

ever claim that that was their desire.

16:31

This administration continues to

16:33

be not only an embarrassment, but a

16:35

dangerous embarrassment, not only to us, but

16:38

to the world, to Israel. You

16:42

name it, they're a problem through

16:44

their weakness and their ineptitude.

16:48

I want to turn to, if I

16:50

may, speaking of ineptitude and corruption, the

16:53

January 6 prisoners of war,

16:57

if you will, the hostages as some

16:59

call them. We're

17:02

six months away, just under six months

17:05

away, from the

17:07

election, the presidential election. The

17:09

Justice Department is

17:11

so evil, so corrupt, politically

17:13

corrupt, that they're still

17:16

out arresting people, some of whom

17:18

weren't even in the

17:20

area of the Capitol on January

17:22

6. We just

17:25

learned of a suicide by a

17:27

young man who was arrested

17:30

three months ago. Eight

17:33

charges filed against him, and he committed

17:35

suicide, as others have. This

17:39

is going to go down in history,

17:41

in American history, is one

17:43

of the most shameful episodes of

17:46

our existence. It's

17:48

truly, truly a demonization

17:52

of all that's good and

17:55

right, and the

17:57

foundation of our constitutional republic.

18:00

and order. And by

18:02

the way, in justice there is mercy. These

18:05

corrupt Department of Justice

18:08

prosecutors and

18:10

the overcharging judges have shown no

18:13

mercy at all to anyone. Absolutely

18:16

true and it's unfortunate

18:18

because the Department of Justice

18:20

had an opportunity to

18:23

focus on those who were

18:26

literally engaged in violence or

18:28

had weapons and there were

18:30

some instances of that but

18:33

they focused only on that they

18:35

wouldn't have the narrative that this

18:37

was an insurrection as opposed to

18:39

that there were a few bad

18:41

actors. And by going

18:44

after everyone who was

18:46

physically in the Capitol including ones

18:49

who were waved in, who

18:51

were walking by

18:53

unobstructed and you

18:56

got a couple of that with what

18:58

are you seeing when we saw Justice

19:00

Kavanaugh being his confirmation

19:02

hearing when it was overtaken

19:04

and there was no consequence. So

19:08

the harm that these

19:10

prosecutions are doing it's going to

19:12

be long-lasting. It is showing that there

19:14

is a two-tier system of justice

19:17

and it needs to stop.

19:21

It needs to stop. The frustration

19:23

is for I think nearly all Americans

19:25

who are decent, who care about this

19:27

country, is that

19:30

we have not discovered whatever

19:32

the check and balance is to

19:34

this level of political corruption and

19:37

just wanton disregard for

19:39

law and for the Constitution. That

19:43

we don't have in our system an

19:46

anticipation or an understanding on

19:49

the part of the Founders

19:51

that what would be required

19:53

if you had a president

19:55

who was nothing more than a cognitively

19:58

impaired politically a compromised

20:01

puppet and a cadre

20:04

of Marxist stems

20:06

around him that have

20:08

subverted the entire government and

20:11

taken control of nearly

20:13

every agency, if not every agency, of

20:15

the federal government. And

20:18

you have to add to that the law

20:20

fair that has been going on in the

20:22

states, whether it's in Georgia or New York

20:25

or then obviously the special counsel.

20:28

And you saw that when the

20:30

Supreme Court had their argument about

20:32

the immunity and presidential

20:34

immunity a couple weeks past, it

20:36

was telling to me that what

20:38

you had were both sides doing

20:40

a worst case scenario. The

20:42

one side was, well, we can't

20:45

give immunity because the president might

20:47

assassinate their opponent. That's not

20:49

going to happen. The other side

20:51

was you have to give

20:53

immunity because they're going to be

20:55

politicizing criminal

20:57

charges. That's exactly what our country

20:59

is facing now. So

21:02

as you said, our founding fathers

21:04

didn't anticipate this. They didn't anticipate

21:06

a Georgia County prosecutor with

21:09

her lover coming up with what

21:11

kind of charges they could come

21:14

against the president or a New

21:16

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21:18

officials to try to stop Donald

21:21

Trump from winning the election. So

21:24

it's much worse than what is

21:27

the weaponization of January

21:29

6th is the weaponization

21:31

of all types of prosecution that

21:33

we're seeing. It is. And

21:37

January 6th was the lead

21:39

event, I think, for what we are

21:41

witnessing now. I also

21:43

think, well, you know

21:46

what, we're going to continue right

21:48

after these quick messages. One more break here,

21:50

and then we'll come back to just what's

21:52

going to happen. To all

21:54

of these ignoramuses and black robes

21:57

throughout the New York jurisdiction.

22:00

Georgia and unfortunately other

22:02

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22:04

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There's joy in every journey. We're

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back now with the Federalist, Margot Cleveland.

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And Margot, we were talking about what

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is the shame of this

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country, this justice system. I

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don't think anyone will ever have faith in it again.

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I think it'll take decades to overcome this. So if

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it's to be. overcome. A man

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like Jack Smith is

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a ball-faced ignorant, just

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a disgrace to the very

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idea of a special counsel

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to impartial justice as

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a special counsel and what he has

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done as he rated Mar-a-Lago,

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as he has thought he was being

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so cute and clever when he decided he

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would reach up to the Supreme Court for

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a judgment on immunity. It's

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clear from what Chief Justice John Roberts

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said when he said this looks

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like your rationalization for this

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prosecution, your basis for this

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prosecution is simply

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we can prosecute the President of the United

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States based on the fact that we are

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prosecuting the President of the United States. When

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John Roberts says that, I

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would think that these

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corrupt Bidenites and

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Obamaites, I shouldn't neglect him, are

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sort of up on their

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heels kind of wondering how this is going

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to go. What are your thoughts? Because immunity,

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I think even though there's

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a differentiation between the state and the

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federal courts, I do think if the

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Supreme Court rules immunity, all

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of these cases implode

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immediately. So

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the big picture with the New

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York case is very different because

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the charges there are

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not related to anything

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he did as President Trump did

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as president, one of his official

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duties. And the New York

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case, I think, is really the

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one that is the most offensive

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of all of them because

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there are no

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grounds. Every legal scholar

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has looked at this and said, this

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is the first time anyone has been

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charged with this type of New York

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felony based on And it's not

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a crime. It dealt

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with federal election disclosures. And

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the federal government said, this

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is not something we're going to look into. But

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what's so problematic is New

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York and the New York jury

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could convict Trump. And

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years later, it gets

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overturned. The damage is

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already done, which is exactly why the

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case was brought when the case was brought.

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Sure. And, you know, it's

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also important that President

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Trump famously chose not to

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prosecute Hillary Clinton, even though she on

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the face of it was

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guilty of I mean,

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so many laws that were broken. She

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it was disgusting. She was she

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and her campaign were in league

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with the FBI, the Department of

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Justice and Crossfire Hurricane. It was

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her campaign's plan that then was

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foisted upon the

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President President Trump. And

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first as a candidate, it's

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just the ignorance of it all.

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And for the complicity of Judge

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Juan Merchant, the the

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merchant family makes up their

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family business is living

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off fundraising for Marxist Dems.

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And as the Justice Department, I mean,

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the justices, the justices of

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the Supreme Court, look at this, they've

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got to be thinking we've got to give

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some kind of immunity here. They can't just

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hand it back to the local courts. It

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seems to me if they're going to make a difference,

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if they decide the hell with it, you

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know, we're going to just let history take its course,

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they're going to they're going to

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look like the most insidiously corrupt

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and cowardly court in American

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history. Don't you think I

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do think that if they let

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this continue on, it will have

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ramifications that create a. First

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to the supreme Court and that

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it will be part of their

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legacy. I do think that they're

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not going to come out and

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put an end to it because

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the supreme court's role is not

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to decide the fact, but supports

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the standards in place and allow

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the lower courts and to do

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the right thing. And I do

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think though the general populace will

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see that as being kind of

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a cop out by a really

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isn't the supreme court's roll. it.

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Should be the populace is rolled

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his say we're not going to

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tolerate this anymore and it very

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well could be that November is

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where the populace. Guys that.

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Are in the populace from if

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I may be the Chief justice

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knows her responsibility for the administration

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of the Federal judiciary. What he's

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gonna be looking at right now

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has to have give him group

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pause. His mom ducks are a

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considerable the got sick reaction to

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what has become of the judiciary

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over which he presides or his

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intervention is required here because the

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corruption is manifest, it is obvious

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or it will destroy. The Republic

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of He does not act in my opinion. Or

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that burden is squarely on him. Squarely My

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opinions and I don't disagree with you. They

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may not act. But. They should

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or and the Republic will suffer if they

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do know your your thoughts As we wrap

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up. Sir. I think

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that we have to distinguish between the

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federal cases and. The state

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cases as well as the distinction

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between if there is related to

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his office. Unfortunately, I don't think

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it's. Didn't. Have any ramifications and a

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New York case. And because we have

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the principle of federalism, there's going to

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have to be some other sat on

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the State of New York and I

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don't know what that is. Yeah.

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i don't know what could be a

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doesn't move the leadership of the of

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the supreme court than the chief justice

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of because there is no decent office

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holder in Albany who

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has the power to stand up and

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say, enough, this is it. The

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highest court in New York state has

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let this Stalinist

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carnival continue, and

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they're chortling, it seems, in Albany

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and certainly in Manhattan, because

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Donald Trump is under their

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heel, and they know that

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full well. I

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have to say, Margo, it's a delight to

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talk with you, and I hope you'll come

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back soon. We appreciate your reporting and your

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presence with us here today. Thanks so much, Margo.

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Thanks so much, Lou. It's a pleasure. Thanks, everybody,

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for being with us today. Be sure to

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and may God bless America.