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Hello,

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everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs, and

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this is the Great America show.

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There's more than a little

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wrong in America these days, don't you

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think? I'm sorry to say,

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we

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now know that the foreign born

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population in this country has

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risen to record levels.

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Growing almost get ready for this,

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growing almost one hundred and

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fifty percent

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over the past thirty years.

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our

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population, our foreign born population

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going from twenty million to

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almost forty seven million people.

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And

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the political persecution by

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the Marxist dims continues. And

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as expected, the Marxist dims attorney

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general of New York Latisha James

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has hounded harassed and threatened Donald

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Trump for years. She actually

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campaigned for the AG office in

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Deep Blue New York basically

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promising to throw him in jail. She

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has finally filed a lawsuit against

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the former president who said she's

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a racist and wouldn't have filed that lawsuit

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except she's way down in the polls.

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James lawsuit doesn't amount to

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much after her three year investigation

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into president Trump and his organization.

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That investigation resulted in

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no criminal charges watch however for

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the president or his family, bringing

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what is clearly a politically motivated

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civil suit against the former

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president. The lawsuit does

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go after three of his kids, Eric,

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Don Junior, and Ivanka. The

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lawsuit alleges President Trump inflated

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his net worth by billions of dollars,

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inflated his property's worth to increase

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borrowing power against those assets,

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These are among the ridiculous allegations,

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and I want to note all of the loans,

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all of the loans taken against his properties

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were paid off. Once again,

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I want to reiterate this, all of

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those allegations that she's

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laid out after a three year long

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investigation

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the and

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no criminal charges around

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two? Well, I'll let you finish

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that sentence. Let's not forget

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the numerous times James on

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getting Trump and continued that rhetoric

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once she was elected. Take a listen to

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the crazed venomous James campaigning

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for AG. I'm

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running for attorney general because I will never

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be afraid to

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challenge this illegitimate president when

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I

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have fundamental rights at stake.

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I believe that the president of these United

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States can be indicted for

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criminal offenses. It's important that

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everyone understand that the days of Donald Trump COMING

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TO AN END. HE BUILT HIS WEALTH

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OFF THE BACKS OF NEW YORKERS. WE NEED

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TO FOCUS ON DONALD TRUMP AND HIS ABUSES. WE

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NEED TO follow

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his money. We

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need to find out where he's laundering money.

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All of those

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transactions have happened here in New York

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City. Tell this president other individual

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that no one is above the law. We

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must do our job to ensure that

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the man currently occupying the

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Oval Office is held

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accountable to any and everything he has

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done. The legal system where even the

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most powerful in the country

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cannot use a loophole to

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evade justice. And what we can see

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to people who say, oh, I'm

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not gonna bother to register to vote

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my voice

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doesn't make a difference or I'm just

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one person. I say

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one I say one name. That

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should motivate

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you. Don't be your ass and vote.

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Oh, yeah. Please sue him for us.

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Oh, we can definitely sue. We're gonna be real patient.

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Yeah. He said I know my name personally.

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I love it. No one is

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above the law. including this

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illegitimate president. And

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so I look forward

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I look forward to

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going into the is a attorney general

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every day, suing

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him, defending your rights,

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and then going home.

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Illagitimate

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president. You heard that right?

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Leticia

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James, a full

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on election

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denier.

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she'll probably be brought up on insurrection

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charges any day. Someone

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who certainly hasn't been a fan of former

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president Trump lately IS THE FORMER

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GENERAL WILLIAM BARR. BUT EVEN

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BARR TALKING WITH FOX NEWS

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BACK THE FORMER PRESIDENT Here's

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what he had to say about Leticia

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James charges against the

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former president.

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It's

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hard for me not to conclude. It's a political

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hit job. And this is a woman who campaigned

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for office saying that promising she was

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gonna go after Trump, which I think is

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a tremendous abuse of office to

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go head hunting and targeting individuals. So

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I think she was targeting Trump.

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And this is after three years a civil

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lawsuit, the gist of which is that

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when The Trump Organization borrowed

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money. Trump personally guaranteed

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those loans. And to support that, she's

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claiming that he inflated his assets on

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his financial statements. the loans

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were paid back. These were successful investments

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and the banks were paid back. So

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they've spent three years on this.

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seems to me her trying to make good on a campaign

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promise that she was gonna bring Trump

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down. So so are you suggesting no

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harm, no foul here? Well,

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I'm suggesting this is not the kind of case

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you would want to sink a lot of effort into.

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And I'm also saying that I think the

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proof is probably fairly poultry

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when it comes to Trump.

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But what proof way me that this is

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overreach is that she went after the children.

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This she just says, you know, they conspired.

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She has no evidence that they played a

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role in this. If if your

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parents were gonna help you get a

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buy a car and they were gonna guarantee it

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and submitted their financial statements,

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and they had as complicated a financial

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situation as Trump. Would you be would

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you, you know, feel you had to go out and

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fly spec it and so forth? No.

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No. She's entitled to rely

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on the CFO in the account and

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super prepared her father's

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statement. Now, I'm not even sure if she

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has a good case against Trump himself, but

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what ultimately persuades me

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that this is a political hit

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job is she grossly

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overreaches when she tries to drag the children

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into this. Yes, they had roles

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in the business. But this was

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his personal financial statement.

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It was prepared by the CFO accounting

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firms were involved in it. The

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children aren't going to know the details of

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that and be able and nor are they affected

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in the real world to do their own due diligence

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and have it, you know, reviewed independently. And

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so this this to me looks like

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gross overreach, which I think is gonna end up

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backfiring on them because I think it will make

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people sympathetic for Trump that this

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is another example of

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people piling on because of

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Trump's derangement syndrome. This, you know,

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this strong desire to, you know, to

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to to punish him.

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So once again, president Trump left

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to fight on. He fought

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for six long years through hoax

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after hoax frame up after frame

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up false allegation after

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false allegation. But you and

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I know the persecutions of the past

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six years have only proved

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wrongdoing on the part of the Marxist

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dens and the deep state,

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and produced never even

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one act of wrongdoing by president

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Trump. in their six years

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of trying very hard. Joining

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us today is a man who spent four

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years working alongside President

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Trump. our guest today is Russ

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Vogt. He was initially the

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deputy director of the office of management

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and budget He finished his

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tenure in the Trump administration as

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the forty second director of the office

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of management and budget. Russ is

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now the president of the center for

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renewing America. Russ, it's

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great to have you back with us here on the Great

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America show. Let's start

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with, if I may, the overall political

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atmospheric and the country right now.

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We're watching the president of the United

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States declare that we will intervene

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on behalf of Taiwan. We're

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China to invade. There seem

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to be a lot of Biden staff members

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who apparently outrank the president

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because they follow each set of his

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remarks. whether on sixty minutes or

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a speech at the UN with

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denials, contradictions of

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the clearly now, puppet

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president's remarks and somehow

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the National Corporate Media listens

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to them and not the president.

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Strange, don't you think?

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And as usual, There's confusion

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all around. These are very

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peculiar happenings at the White House

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and throughout the Biden administration.

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Your thoughts, Russ. It's

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a

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pretty dangerous time in our country. I can't

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remember a more dangerous time.

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The country isn't credibly

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divided. We're really in the midst of the

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cold civil war. And one of the

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reasons we are so divided is that we

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are facing seventy five million

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of us are facing the

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reality that the national security apparatus

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is quite frankly weaponized against

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us and considering us domestic terrorists.

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And that is done on behalf

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of this regime, of which

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Joe Biden is essentially

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in charge of it, but we have a hard

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time believing that he is fully in

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charge of it based on every public appearance that

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he makes and based on

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everything that he states with some

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degree of clarity seemingly being

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walked back by his staff. And so

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you know, you can also get

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to the border, you can get to inflation, you

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can get to gas prices, but we are in a

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very rough situation headed

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into an election that I hope the American

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people are able to speak clearly

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and send the Cavalry our way.

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And

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in that recent interview

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with if you could call it an interview with

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Scott Kelley on sixty

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minutes, the the president saying,

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he would tell Putin that there

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will be consequences. It was

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a very threatening response to

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Penny's question. The president did not

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bring it up, but Penny did. And

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I I have to say, with a man with his

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impairments, his obvious

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he's obviously

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compromised in a number of ways

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in countries important

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countries on the globe. I'm

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I'm I just can't imagine him being a

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wartime president in the entire

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nation, not diving

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for bunkers. Yeah.

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He is not prepared

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to do that. No form leader

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can take him seriously. Our allies

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would not be confidence in any sort

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of alliance in which we were leading that.

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And this president largely needs

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to take the strategy of speaking less to

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the American people. because

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it just creates confusion every

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time he opens his mouth. And

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it's it's unfortunately something that he he's just

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not fit for the presidency. And

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as we look at the legislation

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that he has pushed through, this

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is the the national debt

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has risen to thirty one trillion

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dollars. now well in excess of the

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size of the annual GDP.

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He has been spending money

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left and right without

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seemingly any constraint

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whatsoever from the Congress or either

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party. Really? And

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we are looking at very difficult

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times ahead with fiscal policy,

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if you can call it a policy, but

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this fiscal actions

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that he's taken. Talking

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about a high inflationary environment,

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we're we're about to find out what one

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really looks like at this rate.

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Don't you think? I do believe

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that. And I think that's another aspect of the

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interview that you mentioned is that he tried to

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make it sound as if we're, you know, it's

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a status flow and they're not heaping on additional

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spending. But the reality is

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they cancel student loans to the

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tune of or one

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trillion dollars. And that

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alone is equal to about seventy

11:47

five basis points that the Fed

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has to then raise rates

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or do something in terms of their balance sheet to

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counteract. And

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the Biden administration is trying to say, hey, you

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know, the Fed, you guys are you guys are

11:59

independent, but they're just making life

12:02

harder and they're doing nothing to

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have a fiscal policy that would

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actually attempt to deal with the

12:08

inflation where we get back to balancing our

12:10

books and being able to make

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wise decisions with the people's money

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You know, we've had it's been a long time

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since, you know, we had that kind of

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bipartisan consensus by Congress

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to come along and actually cut

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spending. It was we tried to do it in the Trump

12:26

administration, and Congress just resisted

12:28

as as every turn. But

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Biden has has done the opposite. that he's led in

12:32

the wrong direction unilaterally

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and with his budgets, and we have

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inflation as a result of that.

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Any thoughts about why the

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Republican part part and I'm not saying

12:43

that they could have prevented

12:45

or even slowed him down. because

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of their their in the minority

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in both bodies.

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But there there have not

12:54

been even vocal on the issue. into

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my way of thinking your thoughts?

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My thoughts are a little complicated

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on this. In one sense, I think that the the

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strongest fiscal conservatives for the last

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several years when

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Trump was in charge, spent

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every waking moment right trying to

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prevent a coup happening at the Department

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of Justice. And so the

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people most likely to pick a spending

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fight were had higher

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priorities at that moment. The

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larger issue is that DC is

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basically a political cartel that

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likes to spend money on the bureaucracy

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that they are really a

13:32

a good part of directing on their

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behalf. So they don't pass real laws

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anymore. They just give authority to agencies

13:39

to pass laws, and then they use the

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spending process to

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keep them in check. and they've

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largely created this this issue that

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all of us fiscal conservatives have to deal

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with where they say it's not a

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good spending cut unless it's coming

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from entitlements.

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Well,

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their entitlements need to be reformed

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over time. President Trump had a

13:59

particularly good strategy of doing that. But

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the we can't actually ever

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discuss cutting the spending that

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happens on an annual basis that members

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actually vote on. I mean, what

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what craziness is that.

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And yet, that's the large that's the

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consensus that governs even

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people who who who want to deal

14:17

with our fiscal imbalances.

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And so we've got a lot of work to do, Lou.

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I'm gonna actually be doing a budget

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myself. The Center for Renewing

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America will put it out right at in

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November, mid November. We're gonna --

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Right. -- go in a in a in a in a

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MAGA way, in America

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first way, how you balance the budget in

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ten years with the right set of

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priorities that the American people would actually

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support. Outstanding.

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Now that's an exciting announcement

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that you're making, I

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I just think that's that's terrific.

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And I wish that I

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can't wait to see your work

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product on that because, to me, it's one

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of the most important issues facing the

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nation certainly. No, I

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agree. And I think that's you know, we

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wanna prove to the political class it

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can be done. If you don't wanna do it,

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have the hard conversations about why

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you don't wanna do it. But one of those

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reasons will not be that you can't. Yeah.

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And and, of course, one of

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the other part of this is the

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politics of it all. While

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this president is sending out checks

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to just about everyone, in

15:23

advance of the election, thousand

15:25

dollar checks, eight hundred dollar checks.

15:28

For giving student loans to

15:30

the tune as you pointed out of almost

15:32

a trillion dollars. It's

15:35

very hard to tell

15:37

your your your campaign

15:39

committees and your colleagues

15:41

in congress if you're a Republican that,

15:43

alright, guys, we're gonna balance the budget when we're

15:45

going to be the responsible

15:47

adults and leaders

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of this party. and do

15:52

that, but that is obviously

15:54

exactly what the nation requires.

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Howard Bauchner:

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It does. And their strategy

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seems to be,

15:59

and I talk about this a lot. Their

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strategy seems to just be to

16:04

continually lie to the American people

16:06

and say that they either not the

16:08

reason that inflation is where it is, that

16:10

the war in Ukraine brain is or

16:12

gas prices. And I think

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that they they just they're not

16:16

being honest with the American

16:18

people, nor have

16:20

a healthy respect for the

16:22

American people are very bright. They

16:24

have great intuitive sense

16:26

to them and that when they're being lied

16:28

to and that does not cause them

16:30

to have greater credibility for their

16:32

government, that caused them to have

16:34

increased resentment and bitterness and

16:36

that only leads to the further divisions in

16:38

our country. Howard Bauchner:

16:39

Well, for example, when

16:42

you use the Biden administration of

16:44

lying, we really should look at

16:47

the deficit reduction act.

16:49

The, excuse me, the inflation reduction

16:51

act I guess

16:53

they can use those terms interchangeably

16:56

depending on the subject. But

16:58

it's amazing to be that

17:00

they have the gall, the temerity,

17:03

to to call that legislation.

17:05

In the Inflation reduction

17:08

act, even as they're spending

17:10

eighty billion dollars on eighty

17:12

seven thousand new MRS

17:16

agents, It's it's really

17:18

it's really breathtaking. Stop, isn't

17:20

it? It is. You know,

17:23

it certainly did not deserve to be called

17:25

the Inflation Reduction Act nor

17:27

do they have any track

17:29

record of reducing the deficit.

17:31

This was AAA spending

17:33

bill. This was a a green new deal,

17:35

down payment bill. And they are starting to articulate now

17:38

now that they are past a couple of

17:40

new cycles beyond the

17:42

inflation reduction act being signed

17:44

into law. but it also put

17:46

into place more

17:49

apparatus that's really what I would call Wolk

17:51

and Weaponize. And so you've

17:53

got the IRS, you know, just think

17:55

about the treasury department itself,

17:57

which the IRS is within, is a fifteen

17:59

billion dollar

17:59

agency department. Now

18:02

you're gonna give eighty

18:04

billion dollars to the IRS.

18:07

I mean, I

18:09

understand the need to supercharge it if that's your

18:11

policy, but, I mean, they just come up with

18:13

these numbers on napkins and and

18:15

and put them into bills. And

18:18

And

18:18

then what that the reality is that's

18:21

gonna be audits as far as the

18:23

eye can see. Small businesses

18:25

owners aren't gonna have the accountants. There's

18:27

not enough accounts out there to go work the IRS. So

18:29

the the small businesses that are making

18:31

tough play calls in their LLCs

18:33

are not gonna have accounts to defend

18:35

them and they're gonna be paying a lot

18:37

more, and they're probably just gonna

18:39

make altogether different decisions that

18:41

are less inclined to grow the economy

18:44

and provide jobs, and we're gonna be facing a host of

18:46

issues, but that's just the start. There's a

18:48

host of other programs within

18:51

that bill that they misnamed intentionally

18:53

the inflation reduction act.

18:55

Russ, tell us about the lawsuit

18:58

that you brought against the the

19:00

Biden administration. Sure. We

19:01

have filed two complaints to

19:03

the IRS to

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raise the level

19:08

of awareness and to get some new

19:10

precedent in investigations on the

19:12

books at the IRS. Hopefully, they do

19:14

their job against Mark

19:16

Zuckerberg, Burke, and Priscilla Chan,

19:19

who donated four hundred million

19:21

dollars to intervene the last election.

19:24

But here's the issue. They gave

19:26

money to c

19:28

three, which are tax deductible non

19:30

profits for the purpose of educational which

19:32

are barred from participating or intervening in

19:35

elections. And so they didn't just go out and

19:37

create a pack. They

19:39

spent money donated

19:41

it, took the

19:43

the the deduction, and was

19:45

able to put money into

19:47

these. And what are these those organizations do,

19:49

the Center for Tech and Civic Life,

19:52

Center for Election, Innovation, Research.

19:54

They literally privatized to

19:57

the the the election

19:59

apparatus into the hands of

20:02

Democratic partisan operatives

20:04

to the and there's poor

20:06

stories all over the place. They didn't just set up a

20:08

program that says, hey, anyone that might have

20:10

a hard time and need help

20:13

in COVID to make sure the elections were

20:15

safe and clean. No, they didn't do that.

20:17

They'd looked at the map and they said, these are the

20:19

counties and here's the states where we

20:21

need to hypercharge voter registration

20:23

and create systematic voter

20:26

fraud really largely around mail and

20:28

voting. And they

20:30

they grants and they had very,

20:32

very restrictive contract agreements with the

20:34

grant recipients that said they had to be per

20:37

involved. They need to on an ongoing

20:39

basis have the data. they need

20:41

their staff needs to be consultants.

20:43

In one case, they had four out of

20:45

five keys to all of the ballots

20:47

being stored from absentee

20:50

ballots. So this is a huge

20:52

aspect of how the left rigged

20:54

the last election, and we believe they did

20:57

it illegally through the

20:59

donations of Marcus Zuckerberg and

21:01

Priscilla Chan that we have as

21:03

a movement called Zuckerberg's And

21:05

it's a major problem. We think the IRS should speak

21:07

to it. If the IRS is not willing to

21:09

on this administration, it will the complaint

21:11

will still be there for a future administration.

21:15

And

21:15

on that issue, the

21:18

and we talked about all that

21:20

transpired in the twenty twenty election.

21:23

Also great suspicions about and

21:25

charges about the president himself

21:27

charging the electronic voting companies

21:29

were part of a conspiracy and

21:31

an operation to switch boats from

21:34

him at one point, he put it

21:36

as as algorithms

21:38

that would drive those boats.

21:41

and his attorneys, put

21:43

it that way. Your thoughts about

21:45

the role of the electronic voting

21:47

systems and why we've never

21:50

had in about two years. We haven't

21:52

had a real investigation

21:55

of what transpired in

21:58

that election, whether it's electronic

21:59

voting, whether it's mail in voting.

22:02

We've had superficial and

22:04

very

22:04

spotty reports, but nothing

22:07

holistic in the

22:09

way of an investigation or

22:11

a conclusion. Yeah.

22:13

I mean,

22:14

it's and we definitely need more information

22:16

about. I think we know enough that we gotta get

22:18

back to mail in voting or away from

22:20

mail in voting and we

22:23

gotta get back to in person voting,

22:25

in paper ballots. Those

22:27

are the things that

22:29

we can have greater confidence

22:31

as an American people about

22:33

being able to

22:33

go into the polls and having every vote

22:36

counted. And our view

22:38

and I think the president Trump's

22:40

view is we need to have more audits. We need

22:42

to have more investigations. And

22:45

how are we gonna be able to fix this stuff? If

22:47

we don't continue to mine

22:50

into the last election. And so that's

22:52

what we really have done in our sister

22:54

organization, the election integrity network by

22:56

Clea and Mitchell, Right.

22:58

What we really do is we're we try

23:00

to keep mining. And then as we find

23:03

things, we make these issues, national

23:05

issues. So we just suffered ongoing

23:07

systemic voter fraud in North Carolina

23:09

where they were pre populating the

23:12

driver's license for people to be able to when

23:14

you come to get applications for a driver's

23:16

license, pre populating them to be as

23:18

citizens to vote vote vote in

23:20

North Carolina elections. And they said,

23:23

well, we we solved the problem. And we said, no.

23:25

We don't believe that you've actually looked at the

23:27

problems statewide. And so those are the

23:29

kinds of things that we've gotta get a

23:31

handle on would include, like, your

23:33

question, one of those has to be the

23:35

machines over time to really be

23:37

able to connect all of the dots in the way that

23:39

we've had a lot of anecdotal evidence

23:41

according to. I've

23:42

been covering electronic voting

23:46

skeptically to put it kindly

23:48

skeptically for almost two

23:50

decades now. And we are

23:52

sitting here now with the Department

23:54

of Homeland Security and its

23:57

agency, the the election

23:59

assistance group,

24:01

Home Land Security really is nothing

24:03

more than a outsourcer

24:06

and a function area

24:08

of some sort of hub, if

24:10

you will. for

24:12

a surveillance of the

24:15

electronic voting machines themselves. But

24:18

there's no no

24:18

actual understanding of what's

24:21

happening in each jurisdiction, standards

24:23

that have to be complied

24:25

with. It's all advisory. and

24:29

the the voting public never gets to look

24:31

into what they are, in point of

24:33

fact, black boxes. We

24:35

don't see the contents, neither do the

24:37

secretaries of state nor the

24:39

county clerks or the election

24:41

commissions that run our

24:43

elections. and data in and of itself

24:45

cries

24:46

out for oversight.

24:48

No question. I

24:49

mean, we've got

24:51

We

24:52

we've had kind of a oh, it's

24:55

unfortunately, I'm gonna say once in

24:57

generation, but we know if you've been following

24:59

elections historically, There's voter fraud,

25:02

systemic fraud that's that goes back

25:04

generations, and we saw a

25:06

tsunami of it in this

25:08

last election And there's so many

25:10

threads that we gotta run down. And

25:12

the answer is not. Let's stop talking

25:14

about it. The answer is continue

25:17

refine and investigate, smoke

25:19

out, and fix so that we

25:21

can have confidence when we go to

25:23

the polls. And

25:24

it's it's interesting that the democrats

25:28

were screaming about

25:30

voter fraud in

25:33

twenty sixteen But in twenty

25:35

twenty, they want to say that

25:37

everything is just fine and

25:39

let's move all move along

25:41

here. it it's quite a change in attitude

25:43

when the Democrats in terms of electronic

25:45

voting, I will say this. The the Democrats

25:47

were the greater critics of electronic

25:50

voting. over the course of

25:52

most of that twenty years

25:54

right up to twenty twenty.

25:56

Twenty nineteen, they were still

25:58

leading senators, Democratic

26:01

senators. We're complaining about the

26:03

failure to replace old

26:05

machines and to assure

26:07

the integrity of those machines.

26:10

And suddenly, in

26:12

twenty twenty, oh, everything is fine here.

26:14

And again, just move

26:16

along. our side

26:16

is the complete reverse. And

26:19

so as a result, we

26:21

are always the conservatives, the

26:23

Republicans are always behind the

26:25

eight ball. because

26:26

there is

26:27

a a fear to

26:29

be able to do what is what's

26:31

necessary from a public policy standpoint or

26:33

from an oversight perspective

26:36

to do what's necessary in that moment to save the

26:38

country as opposed to making sure that

26:40

you're a hundred percent in line

26:42

with everything you've ever said before.

26:44

The left doesn't think that way. They get away with

26:46

it from the media. But until we get that

26:49

approach, we're gonna have a hard time beating

26:51

them back. Yeah. That's

26:52

a terrific way to say that,

26:54

Russ. And I I have not heard

26:56

anyone else put it that way. Could you repeat that

26:58

for the audience? because I think that is

27:00

a profound statement for

27:03

what is a complete

27:07

differentiating element

27:09

between

27:10

the two parties. Sure. You know, if

27:12

my interest is to get a raise,

27:14

what's the reason I wanna get

27:17

that raise? If my position is I wanna get a raise. Well, I want

27:19

that raise because I wanna spend more time

27:21

with my family and go on vacations and

27:23

and spend time with them. If I get the raise,

27:25

but I have to work lot

27:28

longer, I've gotten my position, but I've

27:30

hurt my interests. And so those two

27:32

things have been separated. The

27:34

the left never is

27:36

away or separate it from their interests.

27:38

They always make sure that their positions

27:40

are aligned with their interests so that

27:42

if they get what they want, they

27:45

have

27:45

actually served

27:46

their strategic purpose. And I think that's

27:48

the thing that our guys are just not

27:50

savvy enough and or

27:53

is part of the way they play the game is that they

27:55

can actually get what they've said that

27:57

they would they were gonna try to

27:59

do for their voters. But at the end

28:01

of the day, they are not really here to

28:04

actually save the country, which is

28:06

what we all put them in office

28:08

to do. Exactly.

28:10

And, again, well set.

28:12

As I said, I've never heard anybody put it

28:14

the way you just did. and

28:16

I think you're one hundred percent right. The

28:19

question of IQ in the

28:21

party, the party

28:23

leadership, I I I'm

28:25

not going to I'll ask you. I

28:27

I know you have to live and work in

28:29

Washington DC, but I've got to put it this

28:32

way. you obviously have the courage of your principles

28:34

and your and your philosophy.

28:37

You're not going to be too worried about what I'm

28:39

going to ask here. But

28:41

the IQs there just seems

28:43

to be an IQ differential again

28:47

between the leadership of the Republican

28:49

Party and the Democratic party.

28:51

Is that just a

28:55

superficial appearance? Or is there

28:57

something to it? Well, I think about

28:59

it

28:59

a little more institutionally, and I

29:01

think about it from the standpoint of that

29:04

Washington DC is essentially a

29:06

political cartel. where

29:08

the

29:08

uni party establishment

29:10

is what we typically would call them,

29:12

basically leaves policy points

29:14

on the board intentionally

29:17

because

29:17

it involves risk.

29:19

And that risk means that they are less

29:21

likely to have the same amount of status.

29:23

So they would rather say, No.

29:25

We are not gonna have a debate about

29:28

what's actually happening with the

29:30

invasion along the border and use the

29:32

word invasion they don't conversation

29:34

about what Planned Parenthood

29:36

was doing with the federal funding

29:38

that they were receiving because there's

29:41

risk involved in that. And

29:43

unfortunately, it's politics. There's risk

29:45

involved. And to be able to

29:47

articulate to the American people, you

29:49

can you have to do that to accomplish your objectives. But here's

29:51

the thing. There's a vast super majority

29:54

out there for the America first

29:56

objective America first agenda. The

29:58

cultural issue that Donald Trump ran on. There's

30:00

a super majority out there that he was just

30:02

beginning to crack. And

30:04

that involves risk, but it's such

30:06

high reward and it's the only thing that's gonna save the country. So

30:08

to your question, I look at

30:10

it in this institutionally to

30:13

say, it's intended.

30:15

It it's intended to be able

30:17

to keep people away from

30:19

the issues that are also the

30:22

cartel busting issues. They can't

30:24

go back and explain why they're not willing

30:26

to use the word invasion and

30:28

invoke it to their voters. So they've got come up with

30:30

shiny objects that distract from those

30:32

cartel busting issues because

30:34

those are are most critical to

30:36

preserving their power.

30:38

And again, that

30:41

power is rising dramatically

30:43

in Washington DC for the

30:45

what I call the Marxist dims who

30:48

control the Democrat Party and

30:50

the Marxist dims who are the masters

30:52

of what I consider to be. the

30:54

first puppet president in this country's

30:57

history. It is it's an extraordinary

30:59

time, and I really don't know how

31:01

to get at it. we have

31:03

very few we we

31:05

have no corporate legacy

31:10

media willing

31:11

to investigate anything. They're not

31:13

going to follow even the most

31:16

apparent transgressions.

31:19

of the party. And so

31:21

without oversight of either the government

31:23

or the oversight of our

31:26

what used to be the

31:28

the

31:28

fourth of state. We're

31:31

we're just in real trouble here,

31:33

aren't we?

31:34

We are. And I think that's one of the

31:36

reasons why I think it's so important to create new

31:39

institutions that

31:39

are not kind of warped by last forty,

31:42

fifty years of kind of

31:44

the in cohearancies of of a

31:46

particular view of conservatism. I

31:48

think you need new legal paradigms

31:50

that be that go back

31:52

to the reality of what the founders

31:55

not just the words that they used in their original meaning,

31:57

but their original understandings of

31:59

what those of the separation of powers. If

32:01

they were in these positions, how would

32:04

they respond. They would respond fundamentally differently

32:06

than our our our two

32:08

sides because they

32:11

they had they they meant for titanic

32:14

struggles between the branches, between the beds

32:16

and the states. And that's what we need

32:18

to get back to, and we need

32:20

new legal paradigms to do that. It's one of the

32:22

reasons that we've started our centers to help

32:24

them think through that and not

32:26

just be scared by oh,

32:28

they're, you know, four circuit opinions,

32:30

none of which have been opined by the

32:32

Supreme Court. And they would suggest

32:34

that you don't have this ability even though the

32:36

plain words or the institution would

32:38

allow you to to to think in these terms.

32:40

So that's how we think about it.

32:42

And the beauty of it is that

32:44

they've never left has only just

32:46

done incremental reform for the last

32:48

hundred years, and there's no reason that we

32:50

can't just adopt fundamentally, radically

32:53

new paradigms that are fundamentally consistent

32:55

with the the our our American founding.

32:57

On

32:58

a somewhat more granular

33:00

level, what does that mean for

33:02

the judiciary that

33:05

is now peepled to

33:08

a quickly rising

33:11

ratio of dims

33:14

to Republican appointed judges

33:17

what does it mean for the

33:19

the attitude of the

33:21

DC courts sitting in DC

33:24

rather than Omaha, Nebraska

33:26

It's very hard to find a jury

33:29

that is even remotely

33:31

remotely tolerant of Republican

33:34

or conservative views. Well,

33:36

you know, part of my last

33:38

comment was getting at the notion that the

33:40

branches have lost their fear of each other

33:42

and the the main culprit has been

33:44

the judiciary branch. I mean, they they don't fear

33:46

the other two bodies because the other

33:48

two bodies have not used their

33:51

constitutional authorities to

33:53

give pause to their other their other

33:56

branch. And so that's, you

33:58

know, when was the last time Congress even

34:00

had a debate about

34:02

taking away the jurisdiction or

34:04

reforming the courts to be

34:06

able to deal with certain issues that

34:08

where they have been out of

34:10

bounds or take the just rampant abuse of national

34:12

injunctions that we saw under the Trump administration

34:14

-- Mhmm. -- how ludicrous is

34:15

that you can have AAAAA

34:20

judge in California put an entire national

34:22

junction on everyone impacting flyover

34:24

country in North Carolina and

34:28

everywhere else. And so those are the

34:30

kinds of debates that we need to have that allows there

34:32

to be some some pause

34:35

by the ports them to say, you

34:37

know what, we need to reind it in here and not be so fragrant

34:40

across the board. And you

34:42

see that

34:44

on the policy issues, but you also see with it with how they're dealing

34:46

with the JA6 prisoners

34:48

and some of the procedural decisions there.

34:50

I mean, everywhere you look, you

34:54

have the the justice system

34:56

outside the bounds in

34:59

temperament and aggressiveness than I think

35:01

their founders would have ever expected. me

35:04

ask you

35:04

again one one more question on

35:06

that issue, and that is the law fair group

35:09

that supports the Marxist dims

35:11

in every way. and

35:14

from whom they draw

35:16

immense talent and huge

35:18

numbers to to people

35:21

their tactical squads in

35:23

an election. It's the

35:26

Republicans, Ronald McDaniel, the

35:28

chair of the Republican

35:30

National Committee, coming out,

35:32

talking about the hallmarks

35:34

of progress in thirty thousand of this

35:36

and thirty and

35:38

meanwhile, We find out a bunch

35:40

of people don't have anybody, people

35:42

in their precincts right now in

35:44

jurisdictions all over the country. We've

35:46

got to square up, law fair, elections,

35:49

and support, and it seems

35:51

madness to me that here we are

35:53

in twenty twenty two. with

35:55

what looks to be a red wave, I

35:58

see every poll

35:58

I well, not every

35:59

poll, but the polls

36:02

I respect showing

36:03

that still. And I'm not sure

36:05

because

36:05

I don't think

36:06

the Republicans have done enough to

36:08

make sure the integrity of this

36:09

election. Your

36:12

thoughts? Well, we have taken it

36:13

upon ourselves and our sister organization

36:15

election integrity network to make sure that

36:17

we're creating the same kind

36:20

of networks of poll

36:22

watchers in key states like Michigan,

36:24

Wisconsin, Pennsylvania,

36:27

North Carolina, Florida, And this is all

36:29

done through our c the citizens for renewing America. And

36:32

what we're doing is not taking the

36:34

model of the Virginia election.

36:37

in the Virginia election, which I honestly

36:39

didn't think we were gonna win

36:41

Lou. I didn't either. I didn't I thought

36:43

that their systemic voter fraud would

36:46

get him across the finish line, but the reality is that

36:48

there had been this coalition stood

36:50

up of just non partisan

36:52

poll watchers that able to

36:54

kept it

36:56

and check. And that same model is being exported

36:58

to states across the

37:00

country, and we won't get it all

37:02

the way there for this

37:04

next election. but it's meant to

37:06

be a permanent infrastructure that doesn't

37:08

rely on parties that come

37:10

and go with different leadership,

37:12

different interests, and to make sure

37:14

the American people have something

37:16

that is a little more permanent and to

37:18

make sure that this is here to

37:20

stay with people who know

37:22

their precincts and know what is the games that are played at the

37:24

county level across the country?

37:26

Howard Bauchner: Your

37:28

thoughts, as

37:28

we're wrapping up here, Russ,

37:32

your thoughts about

37:34

your confidence in this

37:38

election being bare and

37:40

square? I don't think that they

37:41

can pull off what they

37:44

pulled in in twenty in

37:46

twenty six twenty twenty

37:48

again, but they will

37:50

try and they've got big tech

37:52

and they have they are trying to

37:54

innovate. They're trying to instead of

37:56

having Zuckerberg's they're trying to spend billions in voter registration

37:58

at federal agencies. We have a strategy in

38:00

place to prevent them. But at the

38:02

end of the day, I think that people need to

38:04

get out out there and

38:06

vote because I don't

38:08

think that they will be able to get it

38:10

away with it given the amount

38:13

of increased eyes that the conservative movement is flooding the

38:16

zone to make sure is

38:18

everywhere and the amount of eyes

38:20

and attention. I mean, think about it. It

38:22

took us ever since

38:24

the last election to figure out

38:26

what was going on in that. Now we

38:28

know headed into it. Here are their strategies and

38:30

we actually have a game plan to

38:33

prevent it. So the enemy has a vote and we've got to

38:35

be able to keep running our

38:37

routes, but great progress I think

38:39

is being made. Well,

38:42

good. That that's reassuring. And Russ

38:44

is has made a a

38:47

reference an illusion to

38:50

the Biden

38:51

White House and its

38:54

efforts to replace Zuckerberg,

38:57

private capital, high-tech,

39:00

big tech, big social media with its own get

39:02

off the vote initiatives

39:04

that are well funded.

39:06

I have a natural infrastructure

39:09

and doing so with taxpayer dollars.

39:12

Is there no way that a

39:15

successful emergency lawsuit

39:18

lawsuit

39:19

couldn't try to

39:22

stop these folks doing exactly

39:24

what they clearly now plan. I

39:26

say clearly, they are not being transparent

39:28

at all, but it's clear that

39:30

they mean to

39:32

use federal money, federal

39:34

resources and federal taxpayer taxpayer

39:38

money, and federal employees to

39:40

get out the Democrat

39:44

vote?

39:44

We're certainly looking to all options being on

39:46

the table. Right now, we've

39:49

focused on letting them know, letting

39:51

all the bureaucrats know that they don't have

39:53

the appropriations, the spending authority

39:55

from Congress to do what they're being told to do, and

39:57

that there's criminal penalties associated with

39:59

them. And if they don't think those will be

40:01

enforced by future conservative

40:04

administration, they should think twice and go and check with their general counsel. So we

40:06

want that to have a chilling impact.

40:08

Secondly, a lot of these things are

40:11

These strategies by the left are based on

40:13

the foundation of the motor motor law, which,

40:16

yes, provided a mandate as to the

40:18

motor the departments of

40:20

motor vehicle but did not provide a mandate with regard

40:22

to the other partnerships that

40:24

state job centers could have with

40:26

job corps

40:28

centers at Department of Labor or the housing authorities. And

40:30

so we're asking governors and state

40:32

secretaries to say we

40:34

revoke that

40:36

discretionary authority and we are not

40:38

gonna participate in in your

40:40

scheme to to have

40:42

partisan activity done with federal

40:44

taxpayer dollars. So we

40:46

believe those two things right now can have

40:48

an immediate impact to stop this in

40:50

its tracks while we pursue any

40:52

and all

40:54

legal strategies. Russ Vote Center

40:55

for Renewing America doing

41:00

amazing things thinking about

41:02

issues that are

41:04

critically important to the nation's future, and

41:06

in point of fact, the nation's present.

41:09

Russ, we always give our guests

41:11

the the last word here. So

41:13

if you would you're

41:16

concluding thoughts. No. I appreciate the time to talk about the

41:18

where we are on America first

41:20

perspective. Lou, you have been a

41:22

hero

41:22

and a leading thought leader in that

41:25

And so it's a a real privilege to

41:28

be back on your show and to talk

41:30

through to your audience, all the things that

41:32

we're working on. So I

41:34

appreciate it. Thanks so much, Russ. Russ Vogt,

41:35

the head of the center for renewing America.

41:38

Thanks, everybody, for being with us

41:40

here today. and

41:42

please join us tomorrow when our guest will be Kurt Olson,

41:45

outstanding attorney, former Navy Seal,

41:47

who's represented President

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Trump he's representing Mike Lyondell will be talking

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with him about among other things.

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The Mike Lyondell lawsuits against

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the FBI and

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the

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US government. Please be with

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us. Thanks, everybody. Till

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then, God bless you, and make God

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bless America.