Why do we always have to talk about race? That’s the question some parents ask as schools in Blue states teach critical race theory and civil rights history. Meanwhile, in some red states, teaching about race and racism has been banned.

Alicia Reese and Robert Crouch, co-moderators of the Presbyterian Church’s Commission on Antiracism and Equity, tell us how they talk about race in the context of the church, and how those lessons can be applied to politically diverse groups.