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now it's time for this week's

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episode of Dragnet, the original air

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date, March 16th, 1950, and the

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title is The Big Boys. The

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story you are about to hear is

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true. Only the names

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have been changed to protect the

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innocent. Dragnet. You're

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a detective, Sergeant. You're assigned

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to robbery detail. Four

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young hoodlums wanted for a series of robberies

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are headed for your city. They're

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armed, reckless, cold-blooded. Your

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job. Get them. Dragnet.

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The documented drama of an actual crime.

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While the next 30 minutes in cooperation with

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the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel

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step by step on the side of the

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law through an actual case from official police

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files. From beginning to

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end, from crime to punishment, Dragnet

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is the story of your police

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force in action. This

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is Friday, December 10th. It was cold in

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Los Angeles. We were working a

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day watch out of robbery detail. My

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partner's Ben Romero, the boss's Thad Brown Chief

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of Detectives. My name's Friday. It

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was 7.55 a.m. when I got to room 27A,

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robbery detail. Morning. Hi,

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Joe. Morning. Hi, Joe.

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Cold out, isn't it?

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Frank, what are you doing

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here this early? Can't you sleep? I'm waiting for something.

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Special liver letter from my brother. One

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up in Frisco with a police department? Yeah. Only up

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there. They don't like it when you call it Frisco.

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Yeah. He's in robbery detail.

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Called him last night. All

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three kids had their tonsils up the same day. Thought

3:52

it'd be nice to call and see how they work.

3:54

All three at once. Yeah. Tonsils

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are nothing these days. How'd they make up?

3:58

Good. They're home already. What's the

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letter got to do with it? Oh, well, my brother

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told me he was sending down some dope on

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four pretty rough characters. Things are headed our way,

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sending mugshots too. You and your

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brother running a detective agency on the side? It's

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a little irregular. The official correspondence will come a

4:14

little later. What do you know about the guys?

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Almost killed a man. I didn't get any

4:19

details. It's all in the letter. Ought

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to be here any minute. Melted at noon yesterday.

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How come you moved down here with your family,

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Frank? Looks like it up north? Well, like L.A.

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better. More elbow room. Here you live in a

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house and a lot, not just an apartment. I

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get it. Robbery

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Friday. This is Wilson. The only shop

4:37

is that job. No, I think so. Hold it, will

4:39

you? Tony here? Huh?

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Well, I didn't see you behind that paper. For

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me? Yeah, he's here. Well, if he's not busy asking

4:46

to come over to order with that, especially a couple

4:48

of Mexican girls who can't speak English. I

4:51

guess we can spare him for a while. I'll tell

4:53

him. What's up? That's Wilson in auto detail. He'd

4:55

like you to go over and ask his interpreter for a couple

4:57

of Mexican girls. Are they pretty? You're

4:59

not going down there to marry him. I'll bet

5:01

you while I'm at parties. Eh,

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nothing much doing. Slow date. They

5:10

don't come often enough for me. If

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they did, we'd be out of a job. It

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was one of those rare slow days. We

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killed a couple of hours going over the daily report, cleaned

5:23

out the top drawer of my desk, sharpened a

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few pencils. At 10.15

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a.m., the special delivery letter came to a

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frame. He slipped the top open with

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his pocket knife and shook out four mud shots. Here

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it is. Following four

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men wanted for robberies, auto thefts, and

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safe burglaries in San Francisco Bay Area.

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Cliff Small, 19. George

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Shum, 20. Both escaped from Preston.

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Julius Carver, 18. Fred

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Malek, 20. Both army deserters. Well,

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let's check out that APB from SF last week.

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What are the records, does that? Small

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shot an army captain during an argument at a bar And

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two capers these men shot it out with

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us and escaped information shows all four left

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for Los Angeles several days

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ago Driving stolen car

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blue Chevrolet probably using cold plates. Let

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me see those lunch in here Now

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we know who we're looking for brother tell

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us were Just

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a couple of nice girls that got mixed up with

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the wrong guys take a look at these pictures wait

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Tony Oh the mugs from San Francisco. Yeah, says her

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in a stolen car cold plates That's

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how these girls were picked up in a hot car, huh?

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They went for a ride with a couple of guys They met at a

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movie when the car ran out of

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gas the boys dug the girls got picked up They

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have a lead on the guy. No, not a thing

6:46

the young guys around 20 You

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think these might be the ones from Frisco. Let's talk to

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girls. Come on Frank you

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want to cover the office? Oh, yeah, sure They

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speak English at all not enough to make sense

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That's Dolores and this one is Marie Senior

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it assess the senior son in pay others the

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robbery detail. They say in a Sarah was there

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is a good Good one. This is a

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nice you must not matter He

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says I didn't do anything. I suppose they told you

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all they know already. They're not much help They say

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they don't know anything about the fellows. They were with

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show him these ask him if they've ever seen him

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before These

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are the guys who took him out last night ask

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him Carver

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and Malik the army deserves ask him to

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describe me come on

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She said the parents were

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young, and they were black.

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She said they sat in the car all the time, it was dark.

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But they looked very handsome and they talked nice. Where did

8:10

the fellas pick him up? They told me in

8:12

front of the Jubilee Theater, second in Broadway. Yeah,

8:14

and then what? The girls couldn't

8:16

understand English, but they understood when the boys

8:18

motioned him to happen. Yeah. And

8:22

they accepted the idea of being with his friends.

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I don't know. Maria Creo,

8:28

do you have a question for me,

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the Englishman? She says no.

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Marie thought she recognized him from Church Sunday. But

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he was mistaken. But

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she was mistaken. It must have been some date. The

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boys couldn't talk Spanish and the girls couldn't talk English.

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Where'd they go on this ride, Tony? They don't know

8:44

the streets, they just know they got to the beach,

8:46

and then they turned around and went about halfway back

8:49

when the car ran out of gas. Hmm. Ask

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him again. See if he can get Marie here

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to talk. And Maria? Yes. And

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what's the time you're waiting for? I

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don't know. I'm Maria. First

9:02

of all, we're going to be in

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a hotel. And

9:07

first of all, we're going to be in a

9:09

hotel. And

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the girls are going to be in a hotel. She

9:13

doesn't know, but she remembers they stopped in their little

9:15

hotel. The girls waited while the boys

9:18

took a little puppy out of their car and put it

9:20

in their room. A puppy? Well, if they don't know where

9:22

the hotel was, maybe they can tell us what it was

9:24

near. Hmm. What's the

9:26

time you're waiting for? Hmm.

9:29

In the morning, I'm waiting for a gas

9:32

station. She

9:34

says there was a gas station on the corner. What

9:36

else? What else? The

9:39

door of the hotel was closed. Two

9:43

or three garages. Two or three?

9:46

Yes, three of them closed. Hmm. She

9:49

says across the car tracks there were two or three big

9:51

garages. Yeah. Hmm. Could

9:54

be in the West Lake District. That's the

9:56

garage and the second-rate hotel's around there. The

9:59

East First Street. Maybe Grand

10:01

Avenue and Pico. Pico! Pico!

10:03

I want to go to the hotel!

10:07

Pico! We

10:11

took the girls with us and drove out to

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Grand and Pico, and then up and down Pico's

10:15

slow until the girls pointed out a hotel just

10:17

south of Flower. They weren't sure. Ben and I

10:20

got out. They walked up to the hotel desk.

10:22

The clerk was just starting to vacuum. We're

10:26

looking for Julius Carbon, Fred and Malik. Can they

10:29

stand here? What's the name? Can't hear you over

10:31

the vacuum. Julius Carbon and Fred and Malik? No,

10:34

I'm not here. Police officers. Can you

10:36

take a look at these pictures? Well,

10:39

it could have been two of the boys who checked out

10:41

this morning, but they didn't look

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as tough as this. How many were there? Four.

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Here are two more pictures. Can you have a look, please? Could

10:50

be. About the right age. How long did they stay?

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Just two nights. Did

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they have a puff with them? What? I

10:57

said they have a puff with them. Puppy

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Dog? Yes, they did. Yes, a little

11:02

collie puff. Did they pay up? No,

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they skipped out, owing me two days. Can

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we see how they registered, please? Shut off this

11:10

dang vacuum. A person can hardly hear themselves

11:12

think over that dragon. Now,

11:16

I want to see the register. We use

11:18

cards here. Let

11:21

me see. Now,

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here they are. Bob

11:27

Reynolds, Jack Sharp,

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Jim Smith, and

11:33

William Grant, Las Vegas, Nevada.

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I must have picked those names out of a hat. They

11:39

say where they were going? No forwarding address. Did

11:42

they write these cards out themselves? I bet they did.

11:44

That's the law. You mind if

11:46

we borrow them for a while, we'll have them photo-stated and return to

11:48

you. We're supposed to keep them, you know. You'll get them back. I

11:51

like to do everything legal.

11:54

Those boys in some kind of trouble. Did

11:56

they leave anything in their room? They

11:58

did. It's all in the vacuum. Grab him to come back,

12:00

give us a ring, will ya? Here's our card. Robbery

12:03

detail. Who'd they rob? They took you

12:05

for two days rent. It

12:09

was 2 p.m. when Tony Chavez picked us up.

12:11

He had Frank O'Donnell with him. We

12:13

stopped at a dairy lunch and I called the

12:15

office and we split up into two teams. While

12:17

Tony and Frank checked parking lots in the neighborhood

12:19

for stolen cars, Ben and I ran down the

12:21

other hotels. In the next

12:24

three hours, we talked to a dozen desk

12:26

clerks and roaming house managers. Always the same

12:28

answer, no. 5.30

12:30

p.m. we tried the Achilles Hotel on Grand

12:32

Avenue. We walked into an overheated lobby crowded

12:35

with modern furniture. There were a

12:37

couple of canary cages in front of the faded wall

12:39

tapestries. The desk clerk was a woman in her early

12:41

40s. Good

12:43

afternoon, ma'am, please Austin. Please, Austin.

12:45

Lomber! Lomber, will you see

12:48

that big policeman? Well, just take a minute.

12:50

We'd like to know if you recognize these pictures here. No.

12:54

Next one? No. No,

12:57

we only take in honest, hardworking men. Don't like

12:59

anybody lazing around the rooms all day. It keeps

13:01

me from cleaning up. Any of your rumors got

13:04

a collie puff? A dog? I'd die before

13:06

I'd allow a dog in this house. Well,

13:08

if these fellas were the dogs riding around the room,

13:10

would you please phone us? Here's the number. Millie. Now,

13:13

get on back in there, honey. Work nice more. Go

13:15

on, you. Go on, go on. Millie's

13:17

on the nest now. Yes, ma'am. We'd

13:20

appreciate you watching for these men. For your own

13:22

protection, too. No, I'll let you know. Thank you,

13:24

ma'am. Let's go back. Who say before you go, would you

13:26

gentlemen do me a favor, seeing as how you're policing? Yes,

13:29

ma'am. Mr. Marinelli, up in room 410, the week behind this

13:31

rent, would you do me a favor and go up and

13:33

talk to him? I'm sorry, lady, we can't handle it. That's a

13:35

civil matter. I'd advise you to go to room 260 and

13:38

out to City Hall and see the city attorneys. They'll help you. Well,

13:40

I wonder if we're gonna kill you. They'll help you, Billy. That's

13:45

the way it went. It was dark out

13:47

now and getting cold again. We walked back to Pico

13:50

and Flower to pick up Frank and Tony. Tony was

13:52

there waiting for us. All right,

13:54

come on up to the next corner. Frank's up there. We

13:56

got a hot car state there. Yeah. It's

13:58

half a block from the hotel where the guys... You had any luck? No.

14:02

You find anything in the car? Key's still in it,

14:04

nothing else. Well, they could have stole the glass right

14:06

after they left the girls, huh? I called in and

14:08

checked. It was taken in front of 1190-foot Doheny Drive

14:10

between 2 and 4 this morning. We got out of

14:12

code for it. That's about

14:14

six blocks from where they ditched the car with the girls in

14:16

it. Yeah, we're out of gas. It's all downhill.

14:18

It would have been the next way for them to go.

14:20

Could be the right car. Better keep the stake on. I

14:22

am. Oh, hi, Frank. Hi.

14:26

You doing any good? No. Frank, you

14:28

and Tony want to go to the car? If you and Tony want to go eat,

14:30

then I'll cover the car. When you get back, we'll

14:32

go for a chop. Good deal. Well, that's

14:37

it in the car, huh? Yeah, all right. Go

14:40

ahead. Mm-hmm. Get

14:46

the radio on. Want

14:50

a cigarette? No. What

14:57

do you think? Well, I don't know. Maybe

15:00

it's the same guys, maybe not. Same neighborhood. Couple

15:04

of things might tie in. Yeah, you

15:06

can't be sure. We're really making headway. About all we

15:08

know is they're in town. Yeah, and

15:10

it's a good-sized town. Right now, it's

15:12

the biggest in the world. 7

15:18

p.m. We knew the

15:20

four gunmen were in town. We knew they'd been seen. We figured

15:22

there was no reason for them to skip town until

15:25

they pulled a job or heard that we were looking for them. Time

15:28

was in their favor. Time to rob,

15:30

time to kill, time to get away. The

15:33

check on the hotels continued. We left

15:35

Frank O'Donnell and Tony Chavez on the stakeout, and Ben

15:37

and I picked up the hotel routine, one

15:40

place after another. 8 p.m. We

15:42

walked down a long, narrow lobby to a

15:44

little, ball-headed man at

15:46

the desk. He was wearing glasses and reading

15:48

a magazine called Astrology. When we

15:50

walked in, he tried to hide the bottle. Police officers. Ah!

15:55

Would you take a look at these pictures, please? What

15:59

for? See if you can identify them. No.

16:04

They don't look familiar to me. They may be

16:07

carrying a collie pup. Collie pup? Let

16:10

me see those pictures again. Alright. They

16:15

look familiar now? They had a

16:17

pup with them, alright. Yes,

16:20

I think so. I

16:22

study faces. Yes, the

16:25

same. Now they're here. I

16:27

don't know. You mean they're out for the evening? I

16:29

don't know. Are they registered here? Yes, they

16:32

are. What room? Are

16:34

they expecting you? Now listen. This is important.

16:36

Just answer the questions. What did

16:38

they do? What's their room number? Second

16:40

floor. Room 22. Do you have a key? Yes,

16:42

to say. Here.

16:47

Thank you. Come on, Ben. We've

16:56

got a really happy. Yeah. Give

17:05

me the key. I'd

17:11

watch it. Well,

17:16

maybe we're home. Clothes,

17:18

shoes, all our stuff here. They'll

17:20

be back. You

17:32

are listening to dragnet for the

17:34

step-by-step solution to an actual police

17:36

case. In

17:43

the files of the Los Angeles Police Department,

17:46

there are countless case histories that never got

17:48

space in the daily newspapers. The

17:50

case of Cliff Small, George Shum, Julius Carver,

17:52

and Fred Malek was one of these. Four

17:56

young hoodlums wanted for a series of

17:58

robberies and petty burglaries. These

18:00

men were armed and they'd shown that they wouldn't hesitate

18:03

to shoot. By comparison

18:05

with the sensational crime headline, the news value

18:07

of this story rated an inch of type

18:09

on the fourth page of the second section.

18:13

Yet the line separating these four young

18:15

thieves from banner headlines and back-page space

18:17

is much thinner than the average citizen

18:19

realizes. The danger in a

18:21

criminal case isn't always determined by the space

18:23

allotted to it in the newspapers. Many

18:26

a peace officer's name has appeared in the

18:29

obituary column of the same newspaper that allotted

18:31

one inch of back-page space to the crime

18:33

story that was considered unimportant. I

18:36

phoned the office and asked for two men to

18:39

cover the stolen car. As soon as the replacements

18:41

arrived, Frank O'Donnell and Tony Chavez left the stake

18:43

out on the stolen car and joined us at

18:45

the hotel. It was 8.55 p.m. But

18:48

what did they do back? Any idea? No,

18:50

sir. I told these other officers.

18:53

I did tell you, didn't I? Yeah, you said they were out

18:55

for the evening. That's it. I knew I told you something.

18:59

Was it you two? What was it you two?

19:01

Was this fella and I? Oh, yeah. I

19:03

don't remember things I say so good. But I know

19:05

faces. Things. Are you the manager

19:07

here? Oh, no. This place belongs to Claude.

19:09

Claude who? Tinney. Then you're

19:11

in charge now. Only when Claude's not around. This is one

19:14

of his places. Where are we going to stake out, Joe?

19:17

Enough room to turn around in this lobby. That's

19:19

what I've been telling Claude. Claude Tinney. This is one of his

19:21

places. Yeah, maybe you better leave that bottle alone till we get

19:23

this straightened out, huh? Oh, no. I

19:25

don't hit it heavy anymore. Just a

19:27

little nip known again. Crafty in

19:29

here. Any idea where we can wait for these

19:31

fellas and keep an eye on the lobby? No.

19:33

Not enough room in this lobby to turn around in.

19:36

I've said that to Claude. Yeah, we know. Hey, Cler.

19:38

Where does this door lead to? No, don't go in there.

19:41

There a light in the end? I save old bottles. Ragman

19:43

gives me a penny

19:45

each for them. Is

19:48

that a storage room? What's

19:50

that? That room over there. Oh, that's the

19:52

linen room. We keep all the linen there. That's

19:55

about the only place there is, Joe. I still want to wait out

19:57

in the car. All right, we'll wait in there. a

20:00

couple of chairs in there. I'll send the boys back

20:02

when they come in. It'd be better if you'd tell them nothing. How

20:05

are they going to know you're here? We'll tell them. You just don't say

20:07

anything. All right, sir. Now

20:12

then, if I can just have your names, I'll see that

20:14

the boys get the message. Now look, mister, you

20:16

just sit there and read your magazine. Don't say anything. You

20:19

got that? Okay. That's the way you want

20:21

it. Come on, let's go. What's

20:33

that smell in here? Bleach,

20:36

I think. Strong. Mm-hmm. What

20:41

time is it? Can't

20:43

see. Frank, you got a luminous watch.

20:45

Mm-hmm. 9.28. evening,

20:51

mate. evening, sir. Give me an 8

20:54

o'clock call. Yes, sir. All

20:56

right. All right. Smells

21:01

giving me a headache.

21:04

There's a bad in here. Yeah.

21:13

Is there anything I can get you, gentlemen? No, you just stay

21:15

at the desk, will you, please? Say, Claude

21:17

Tinney's his name. He's the manager.

21:19

Remember, you asked him to come in.

21:22

You're the manager. You're the manager. You're

21:24

the manager. You're the manager. You're the manager.

21:26

You're the manager. He's the manager. Remember, you

21:28

asked me about that? Yeah, yeah, we know.

21:31

What do you want him for? Look, you're gonna have to stay away

21:34

from this door. We don't want him to know we're here. Okay.

21:37

That's the way you want it. I

21:42

could use a cigarette. Yeah. All

21:44

we need in here now is smoke. What

21:47

time is it, Frank? Oh. Never

21:49

mind. That's

22:37

it. There's two of them. Ben,

22:39

you come with me. Frank, Tony, stay here. Right.

22:43

All right. We're checking out tomorrow. It's Carver and

22:45

Malik. Let's go, Ben. Yeah, come

22:47

on. Now get your hands up. Hey, what's going

22:49

on? Stand still. Okay. What's the

22:51

beef? Frisk them.

22:56

There's a 380 automatic on Carver. 38 caliber

22:59

revolver in this hip

23:01

pocket. Another 38 on

23:03

Malik. I'll hold it. That's

23:06

it. Put out your hands.

23:11

Let me have your cuffs, Joe. Here you go. Where

23:15

are your pals? What pals? Cliff

23:17

Small and George Shum. We know you're running with them. You

23:20

know that? You know where they are? How

23:22

old are you? What's your name? Fred

23:25

Malik. I'm 20. Tony.

23:28

Yeah. You and Frank want to take them downtown? Right.

23:31

We'll see you down there. Let's go, Frank. Say,

23:36

you got them, huh? Got

23:38

two of them. We're going to wait for the other two

23:40

now. You'll just play it straight and stay away from

23:42

that linen room. How long are you going to be in there? Chambermaid

23:45

starts making up the beds around 7 a.m. She'll have to be

23:47

getting out that linen in there. It's only 10.30, lots of time.

23:51

We change the sheets three times a week in this hotel.

23:54

Not a worry in the world. Let's get back

23:56

in there. I

24:00

know what that smell is in here. It's

24:09

Lysol. Yeah. I

24:11

forgot about that pup. That would be the tip off. I'll go get

24:13

him. Come

24:18

on, little fella. Here

24:20

we go. Come on, boy. He's

24:27

hungry, Joe. Yeah. Yeah. Look,

24:30

I'll put him down on the floor. Don't step on him. Yeah,

24:43

what do you want? Are you going to wait for

24:45

the other two boys? Yeah, well, you get

24:47

away from the door. Say, I want to

24:49

help you all I can. Yeah, yeah. That

24:51

fuzzy little pup of theirs, he's running all around the

24:53

lobby. Yeah, we've got him in here. Yeah, you better

24:55

go out there and get him. He's barking. It'll

24:58

tip him off. Yeah, all right. Now go on

25:00

back to the desk. All right, then. You stay

25:02

in here. I'll see if I can catch him. He

25:04

comes around here again. He'll have to wait in here.

25:08

You'll see your watch. No. Must

25:11

be around 11. Yeah, must be. Is

25:20

that the clark again? Yeah.

25:23

Say, listen. I've been all over the

25:25

lobby. You fellas are in the clear. What do you

25:27

mean? That dog of theirs, he's

25:29

gone. You're in the clear. Look,

25:31

he's in here with us. Now will you stay away from here,

25:34

please? Yeah, it's okay. The

25:36

dog's gone. Hey,

25:46

pop him in the key from 22. Yes, sir. That's

25:49

their room. Come on. Get

25:53

your hands off. Watch him, Joe. Wait, I'm at you.

25:55

Get your hands off me. All right. You

26:00

didn't have to slap me. You didn't have to pull that gun.

26:02

All right, now over here. Stand

26:04

still. 38

26:07

revolver on this one. Here

26:10

it is, 45 colts. What's

26:13

your names? Cliff Small, he's

26:15

George Shum. How old are you? Cops?

26:19

We weren't, you'd be in a lot more trouble than you are.

26:22

I'm so 11. Yeah, now

26:24

let's feed that. 12.15 a.m. We

26:29

took the prisoners down to the city hall to the

26:32

interrogation room. Tony Chavez and Frank

26:34

O'Donnell were there with the other two, Carver

26:36

and Malick. While Ben helped question

26:38

the suspects and made out the necessary reports, I

26:40

went across the street to the Federal Cafe. I

26:43

picked up two 10 cent bottles of milk and a

26:45

few slices of bread. Look

26:50

at him go. He was hungry. Yeah.

26:53

How'd you come out? I got it all here. Let's

26:56

see, four stolen cars, eight known robberies

26:58

in San Francisco. They copped out too.

27:02

Free jobs in Portland, they admit it. You remember

27:04

that Bakersfield liquor store hold up about four weeks

27:06

ago? A Watson job? They pull that? Yeah, probably

27:08

a lot more. They haven't told us all of

27:10

it yet. Got

27:13

out an APB. We'll probably get a

27:15

lot more wants on them. Well, that's it. None

27:17

of them are even old enough to vote yet,

27:19

but they've committed practically every crime in the book.

27:22

Just one thing more left to work out. What

27:24

do we do with the pub? How about the

27:26

SPCA, that fine home for him? No, not this

27:29

little guy. Why don't you take him, Tony? You

27:31

got kids. You got a deal. I

27:34

keep, I keep, I keep. And

27:38

he married a colleague pero deo en adalante

27:40

espero policía. Translation,

27:43

your mother was a colleague, but from now on you're a

27:45

police dog. The story

27:47

you have just

27:50

heard was true. Only

27:57

the names were changed to protect

27:59

the innocent. On February

28:01

9th, trial was held in Superior Court,

28:03

Department 88, City and County of

28:05

Los Angeles, State of California. In a moment,

28:07

the results of that trial. Clifford

28:18

Small, George Shum, Julius Carver, and Fred

28:20

Malick were released to San Francisco authorities

28:22

where they were tried and convicted on

28:24

eight counts of robbery in the first

28:27

degree. A hold was placed on

28:29

them by the state of Oregon. They

28:31

are now serving their terms in the state

28:33

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29:07

Welcome back. A different episode

29:09

that's practically a day in

29:11

the life of a working

29:13

detective complete with drunk clerks

29:16

and landlady's who expect you to

29:18

harass delinquent tenants for them. I

29:21

also had to chuckle at Ben objecting

29:23

to the notion of smoking in that

29:25

closet. Yeah, a cigarette company

29:28

might be sponsoring the show, but

29:30

come on, man. And

29:32

while it's not hilarious, I do

29:34

actually find the TV version of

29:36

the story to be pretty darn

29:39

amusing with the role of the

29:41

clerk really amped up in terms

29:43

of the comedy value. It's

29:46

the top of story that if you

29:48

want like one of the lighter dragnet

29:50

episodes, even if you prefer the

29:52

lighter episodes from the 1960s,

29:55

this one is perfect when you're in

29:57

the mood for it. Today's

30:00

monologue about the difference between

30:02

front page crime and that

30:05

which goes far into

30:07

the back pages is worthy of

30:09

consideration. Police doing their

30:11

jobs on sort of simple

30:14

barely worth noting cases like

30:16

this prevent the sort

30:18

of headline making crimes that

30:20

really include a lot of

30:22

tragedy. And when you're dealing

30:24

with young armed men who

30:27

have already shot people, it

30:29

really was just a matter of time

30:31

until it became something far more serious

30:34

and dark. But as

30:36

this is, it's a surprisingly entertaining

30:38

episode for as little incident as

30:41

there is. And again

30:43

with some nice little dashes of

30:45

humor. Well now we turn to

30:47

listener comments and feedback. And we

30:49

start over on Facebook with Matthew

30:51

who writes regarding

30:54

Dragnet. I'm not a

30:56

fan of the show unless the plot is

30:58

murder when it's, you know, burglary or a

31:00

kid skipping school. I

31:02

turn this off, but I do

31:05

find the investment swindle story sometimes

31:07

they have is interesting. This one,

31:09

the big kill is really good.

31:11

Well, thank you so much. Appreciate

31:13

the feedback, Matthew. And it just

31:15

goes to show that different folks

31:17

have different things they enjoy even

31:19

about some of these series. I

31:21

like the murder ones well enough.

31:25

But one thing I like about Dragnet

31:27

is how they do have episodes that

31:29

change it up a bit from murder.

31:32

Probably one of my favorites is

31:35

the Big Betty. But of course

31:37

there are plenty of murder cases

31:39

in Dragnet for Matthew and all

31:41

those who prefer just murder cases

31:43

to enjoy. Well now it

31:45

is time for a ceremony of sorts.

31:48

A retirement ceremony. You know

31:50

how they'll retire the numbers

31:52

of players in sports. But

31:55

I retire certain questions that I

31:57

get asked a lot. are

32:01

frequently asked questions

32:04

at FAQ.greatdetectives.net. And

32:07

some of those questions have

32:09

been retired because

32:11

they are not

32:14

particularly pleasant to answer or

32:16

not ask from a particularly

32:18

good place, such as when

32:20

someone will show up

32:22

on a YouTube video, which

32:25

is the 5000th or

32:27

something episode we posted and

32:30

demand that I do a

32:32

completely new format or spend

32:34

thousands of hours changing how

32:37

we do videos in order to cater

32:39

to their particular fancies. And then there

32:41

are questions that get asked quite a

32:43

bit like where my accent

32:45

came from, what our theme music

32:47

is, and rather than take

32:49

time on the air or send

32:52

direct responses to everything, it just

32:54

makes sense to have the FAQ.

32:57

And the latest question we are going

32:59

to retire is, is that

33:01

your real voice? Which has

33:04

been cropping up a lot

33:06

in recent months. And I

33:08

have not honestly known what

33:10

to make of people asking

33:12

that question. Is it some

33:14

sort of joke or insult that I

33:16

don't fully get? And honestly, I feel

33:18

like when people just ask that question,

33:20

I answer it, and then they don't

33:23

call back. I kind of feel like,

33:25

you know, you do when you answer

33:27

your doorbell and somebody after

33:29

somebody rings it and nobody's there. With

33:32

AI coming out, I'll

33:34

give people the benefit of the

33:37

doubt that hopefully it's not coming

33:39

from any sort of negative place.

33:41

And some are curious like, is

33:43

this an AI generated podcast because

33:46

the voice sounds kind of

33:48

different? Well, I suppose that

33:50

question is understandable.

33:52

Now that I have been

33:55

recording old time radio podcast

33:58

since the Bush administration. And

34:01

as far as I

34:03

know, during the Bush

34:06

administration, there was not

34:08

AI voice generation technology

34:11

available on the level that it

34:13

is today during the Bush administration,

34:15

as far as I know. And

34:18

hopefully that explanation doesn't inspire

34:20

half a dozen conspiracy podcasts.

34:23

The point is that it

34:25

is indeed my voice and

34:28

it's not an intentional affectation.

34:31

Now it might sound a little

34:33

bit different than the normal speaking

34:35

voice if we were sitting down

34:37

having a conversation somewhere, but I

34:39

tend to think that's kind of

34:41

normal. My father was

34:43

an itinerant preacher and we

34:46

saw a lot of preachers

34:48

and they would

34:50

have kind of their preaching presence

34:52

voice, which could be very different

34:56

than the voice they would use

34:58

when going to McDonald's after surface

35:00

to order. I mean, if

35:02

it were, it would be like a comedy

35:05

sketch, but still at the

35:07

base, it's still the

35:09

same voice. And that's

35:11

pretty much what it's like with me. I

35:15

might, very subconsciously, I

35:17

don't come on here recording thinking,

35:19

I'm going to try to affect this

35:21

type of thing. It's just how

35:24

I end up speaking in front of the microphone.

35:26

So it is 100% me and has been for 16

35:28

years. Thank

35:31

you for asking the question. It

35:34

will never be answered again, other

35:36

than it's on the FAQ. So

35:38

you can read it, but I'm

35:40

not going to vocally answer it

35:42

or provide any original response. Well

35:44

now it's time to thank our Patreon

35:46

supporter of the day. And I want

35:49

to go ahead and thank Lewis. Lewis

35:51

has been one of our Patreon supporters

35:53

since March of 2018, currently supporting the

35:56

podcast at the Master Detective level of

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next Saturday with another episode of

36:29

Dragnet. Next Tuesday we'll begin

36:31

to feature Squad Room and

36:33

previously uncirculated episodes of that.

36:35

But join us back here

36:37

on Monday for the Adventures

36:40

of the Falcon where... I've always believed

36:42

in an eye for an eye. I

36:46

hear tell the Falcon is the best private dick in

36:48

New York. You want me to deny it?

36:51

No, I just want you to prove it. Take

36:53

a look at this picture. Not

36:57

bad. Who is she? That's what I expect you to

36:59

find out. She is the gal who got my brother

37:01

in this mess. What makes you so sure? I found

37:03

that picture in his wallet. Doesn't prove anything. It does

37:05

to me. Alright Clayton, assuming

37:09

this is the girl and assuming I find her,

37:11

what then? What do you think?

37:14

I think you intend to kill her. Now

37:16

where did you get that idea? Now

37:18

look Clayton, I know how you must feel about

37:21

your brother. Never mind the pretty speeches. Will you

37:23

find her for me? No. Okay.

37:27

I guess there must be other private detectives

37:29

in New York. Look, if anything happens to

37:31

this girl... You'll yell copper. Yes. I

37:34

wouldn't do that, fella. Because after

37:36

I take care of her, I could

37:38

drop back and take care of you.

37:41

I hope you'll be with us then.

37:43

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