Xavier Smales is an Architect and Andy Tugby is Head of Sustainable Construction at Human Nature, a developer based in the south of England. They join me to discuss their approach to designing sustainable neighbourhoods and how they're putting this into action with a development called The Phoenix.

We discuss urban design principles for sustainable lifestyles, low carbon architecture, circular economy and more.

Click here to see the companion blog post on Substack for visuals of the project!

Find out more about Human Nature and The Phoenix here:
https://www.humannature-places.com/phoenix

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