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AND SUBSCRIBE Yeah,

1:52

maybe a little bit. Alright,

1:56

I think that's connected with

1:58

the underground stuff. I mean when you

2:00

look at we talked about the underground bases having

2:03

this maybe this Magnetic anomaly

2:05

above like in skinwalker

2:07

these guys have measured this weird magnetic

2:10

anomaly in these areas and

2:12

then there happens to be portals There so

2:14

what if that is connected, right? Absolutely,

2:17

of course check the timestamp in the show notes.

2:19

You want to skipper lazy ramos and

2:22

get right to the point Break

2:24

the interview. There's always a timestamp in

2:26

the show notes and that

2:30

Christmas I guess is our day after Christmas

2:32

episode. We didn't come out on Christmas because

2:35

I Don't know who wants

2:37

to work on Christmas. Yeah There's

2:40

no agenda guys work on Christmas. Well, it's mainly cuz

2:42

who's gonna listen on Christmas too. I mean, it's not

2:44

like, you know Maybe

2:47

some people you know, but

2:50

most people are spending it with friends and family or

2:52

whatever and they're not gonna put a podcast on in

2:54

the background Now

2:58

UFOs and modern disclosure and aliens and

3:00

stuff But some people

3:02

there's some freaks out there and we

3:04

love you guys We love the freaks and

3:06

we're here for you on Boxing Day, which of course

3:08

is a thing in Canada I don't think the state's

3:10

just just a day after Christmas

3:12

down in America. It's a big

3:15

thing here Yes, and it's like the total town

3:17

was shut down today. It was the same as

3:19

Christmas Day. Like everything is closed Nobody

3:22

comes nobody like I don't think

3:24

really people open up on Boxing

3:26

Day and not Christmas Day here in Canada Our

3:29

town was completely shut down yesterday

3:34

But it was pretty open back up today. All

3:36

right Yeah, home hardware

3:38

wasn't open a few things weren't open. But

3:40

for the most part, you know Canadian

3:43

tire and I guess some

3:45

people just do like the one day So

3:50

I got a city in here you guys

3:52

think this is Christmas in Crow free to

3:55

rate who I don't have a Christmas See

3:58

goddamn these Vegas kinds of keep

4:00

calling me should answer no sure answer remember

4:05

when I oh my god remember when I put the lady

4:07

from hello Jared

4:19

who it's

4:24

not coming through Justin

4:27

you're on the air go ahead hi

4:32

on the air with you you're on the air to

4:34

say we're calling

4:36

on behalf of Hilton to win to Marriott Caesars

4:39

and NTM wanted to

4:41

know if we made it worth your while could

4:43

you see yourself coming down to Las Vegas anytime

4:45

with any friends or family in the next three

4:48

years for some biggest baby biggest baby how worth

4:50

my while like a free trip well

4:53

it's not free it's $499 for four days

4:56

and three nights you can bring four adults they

4:59

throw in 200 slot play 200 and

5:01

dining and if you're in Canada

5:03

when you check in they give you a thousand

5:05

dollar hotel and car rental credit that's good dollar

5:08

for dollar and it doesn't expire so it's

5:10

to say thank you mr. grants for you

5:12

or your family's past travel history there's no

5:14

time sure Caesars and NTM your

5:17

comedy all right this is not as funny as I

5:19

thought it would have been better if it

5:21

were like yeah like

5:25

yeah no you know

5:27

the scammers about is he that is

5:30

he still there was it a guy they call me every day almost

5:32

every day really well

5:36

I was like the scammers that the scammers

5:38

are better when they say they're like everything

5:41

Canada or yeah yeah for sure but the

5:43

one guy he's like well the

5:46

Attorney General charged me I was like well

5:48

dude I am this is crazy I am

5:51

the eternal general the Attorney

5:54

General and he's

5:56

like no you're not fuck you fuck you really

6:00

Yeah, yeah I

6:03

hate those calls. I get the ones

6:05

about the visa all the time their visa that about

6:07

about my car just brutal I can't believe they can't

6:09

get rid of the robo calls yet But I mean

6:11

that I was interested to hear what MGM had to

6:13

offer there I was not a bad price

6:15

you should have said are you trying to make up for

6:17

the big hack? Like I don't want to go there and

6:20

be hacked. I mean your your your hotels were hacked And

6:23

that was actually the other

6:25

one. That was

6:28

mandolay, babe That's not a bad

6:30

price the four of us could go to Vegas for a hundred

6:32

bucks each What

6:36

was it each still a pretty good deal and

6:40

We get fifteen hundred bucks Hotel

6:42

car see my mind was already

6:44

working like home We was her a cact

6:46

around there. We could buck it around the

6:48

cacti. Yeah, there is a cacti Contact

6:50

of the cabin that is There

6:53

is a cacti me a contact if you haven't calm

6:55

if you want to get tickets to the eclipse We

6:57

got the big eclipse festival coming of course in April

7:00

April 6th to 9th. I'm utopia, Texas Eclipse

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Come check it out with us

7:08

the snake bros Ben from uncharted x

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caverns and Right

7:18

it's gonna be a time and this happens

7:20

to be a total clips which

7:23

is gonna be pretty balling on itself B.

7:25

Why OB and all sorts of

7:27

stuff you could drink you could party you listen

7:29

to tunes you could Do experiments

7:31

you could do whatever you want to do just

7:35

do anything crazy or violent just don't hurt

7:37

anybody or yourself But

7:39

we're gonna have a time and of course a few

7:41

other events next year It's wonderful

7:43

round of Carlson and

7:46

a few one of our own up down in duck

7:48

creek village, Utah One of our favorite places

7:50

we've tried out in the middle of summer down

7:52

there with her busy Dave Madison Brown and Powell

7:55

Check out the stars from Bryce Canyon Contact

7:58

at the camera Yeah. Check

8:02

it out. Next year Canada trip's

8:04

on Siltier. That was a big hit. Yeah,

8:07

yeah, that'll be great. That's up in the mountains and near

8:11

Invermeer, right? In BC, kind of like

8:13

Eastern BC, almost Alberta. Go from Calgary

8:15

to there. Jump in the river,

8:17

jump in the river, the natural hot springs. It

8:22

was dope. It was a dope trip. So

8:25

do you want to hear the synchronicity or? Ah,

8:27

well, I was going to play it. Yes, I

8:29

do, but not just yet. I mean, you

8:33

know, I'll be honest. I

8:36

don't know which way to take it because

8:38

some of your synchro's are pretty hurting, but

8:41

I'm hoping this one will, will not be

8:43

that way. Why do you know it's mine? Oh,

8:46

well, I don't know. New York. Yeah,

8:48

it is. I

8:57

want a good snore from a

8:59

synchronicity. Rain region out then down,

9:01

I might give it to me.

9:03

Hey, don't you please read it

9:05

low. Yeah. So

9:08

I play this game with my family

9:10

that it's called Joker's Wilder. Some people

9:12

call it marbles and jokers or jokers

9:14

and pegs. It's like, it's a card

9:16

game. Then you move your pegs around the

9:18

board and try to move them out of your, it's almost

9:21

like sorry. Do you remember playing the story of the kid? What?

9:23

What kind of board? Like it comes with a

9:26

board? Egg board. No, you make it like,

9:28

it's kind of like a camping, it's kind

9:30

of like a camping game where like people just make

9:32

their own versions. All you need is three decks of

9:34

cards, 20 marbles, and

9:38

five marbles of four different colors, you know, and

9:41

you move them out based on your cards and you go

9:43

around the board and you knock each other out. Where do

9:45

you get the board? You just make

9:47

it. You just make it out of anything.

9:49

The stone, there's wood. Is it a circle

9:51

or? Well, the point is, is that, so

9:54

for Christmas, my family was saying, well,

9:56

why don't we play like online?

9:58

I like, we can show you the board. And so

10:00

I said well, why don't I make one?

10:02

So I went into the one of the D&D

10:05

programs that we used for playing online and

10:07

I made I whipped up a virtual board

10:10

And then we found a virtual card website

10:14

That we can deal each other cards and we

10:16

played virtually this game So

10:19

I moved the pegs around the virtual board and we

10:21

did our virtual card game with the family So I

10:23

did that with my my mom and my sister and

10:25

stuff. It was a blast on Christmas I

10:29

Wonderful so I guess

10:31

I mean it's better than not hanging out with

10:33

them So my yeah, exactly.

10:35

So my my sister's boyfriend's son comes

10:38

in and he says There's

10:42

a Pharaoh there's a Pharaoh Roshay Rapper

10:46

on the floor and it wasn't there when I

10:48

left and my sister's getting all excited because she

10:50

thinks the dog Ate a Pharaoh Roshay and if

10:53

the dog her little tiny dog eats

10:55

chocolate like you'll probably die right? Apparently

10:57

like chocolate's not good for dogs Yeah,

10:59

but you know, I've seen some dogs

11:01

pound some chocolate. They're just fine So

11:05

anyways, this is the thing. Oh god. Our

11:07

dog finally was licking the garage for a

11:09

few times No,

11:13

yeah, that's what fucking did it What

11:16

he didn't die? But he

11:18

you know thousands of

11:20

dollars to repair The

11:23

little dog yeah, yeah, remember he

11:25

almost died back in the day they'll taco Ultimately,

11:28

that was definitely in the garage

11:31

floor. Look at oh my god That

11:33

little master's ate some chocolate though, and he didn't

11:35

die like the mother knows do that crushed like

11:37

a lot of chocolate They were okay. I know

11:39

they say not to do it. It's not good.

11:41

But here's the thing None

11:44

of that shit. We're eating his chocolates I

11:47

guess very little chocolate and actual

11:49

chocolate and a Ferrero Rocher, you

11:51

know, it's all just like that's

11:53

what it's like Fancy sugar. That's

11:56

what my my sister's boyfriend's had is like

11:58

maybe it's cuz it wasn't real chocolate Yeah,

12:01

100%. You know, if you get dropped some

12:03

baker's chocolate or something, then, you know, What

12:07

did your little dog get sick on the blood, like leftover

12:09

deer blood or something like that? We didn't know he got

12:11

into a lot of stuff. He was eating like where the

12:13

brains were from a skull I cleaned out. Oh,

12:15

well, but he was also like, there's blood on the floor. He

12:18

was just like, you know, for the guys don't need to sit

12:20

like, Licking the

12:22

floor. And what happened to it? I think

12:24

that's ultimately what got him was that look,

12:26

right? For like, there's fucking there's a bunch

12:28

of stains on it. From

12:31

oil and gas. What

12:33

what what happened to him? Got

12:35

super sick. And he had to go to that memory.

12:37

Don't you run for all this? You never told me

12:40

about it. I think you were around. I

12:42

swear you were. I swear you were like. I'm

12:45

maybe not. No, no, you were out

12:48

of cack, I think, right? What? I don't

12:50

remember any of this. I feel like I'm

12:52

in a dream right now. Yeah, or were

12:54

we? We were not even one that I

12:57

didn't go to. No,

13:00

no, because I didn't come to mom.

13:03

Did you come? No, she didn't come to Montana.

13:05

That was me. Did you come to Montana? No,

13:07

I did. It's gross. So it wasn't then. It

13:10

was before that. Well, I

13:12

can't remember now. But what would

13:14

they do? Would they do them? Put them

13:16

on antibiotics or something like that? Much steroids

13:18

and all sorts of stuff.

13:20

He was actually in a little dog

13:22

hospital for several days. Wow. And

13:26

then a bunch of medicine. So

13:29

it was gross. I mean, if there was a time there, I

13:31

was like, I don't know, because

13:33

he got out of the hospital and then went back in.

13:35

You know what? I might be saying Miles might have been

13:38

the one who was around for that. Right. Yeah. So,

13:41

wow. Anyway, so we were kind of trying to

13:44

figure out if the dog had eaten it or

13:46

whatever, right? It's just weird. This

13:48

rapper showed up at an hour. So

13:50

then today. No, sorry. Yes, that

13:52

is a pro. No, no, it's

13:54

still going on. So Christmas Day, we stop

13:57

at Maria's friend's place like

13:59

just just. on the way to her parents,

14:01

like we just make a quick stop, like a quick Christmas

14:03

day stop, right? And

14:05

she's telling us the story about how

14:07

they found a whole bunch of rappers on

14:09

the floor and their dog had eaten eight

14:12

Pharaoh Roches. I'm

14:14

like, are you kidding me? Is that a Pharaoh Rochet

14:16

ad? Isn't

14:19

that weird? I'm like, what?

14:22

Another Pharaoh Rochet dog story? I

14:24

don't even visit a

14:26

lot of people or do a lot of

14:29

things, you know, and everybody's having these

14:31

instances with Pharaoh Rochet rappers and

14:33

dogs. I don't know. Sweet.

14:36

Yeah, but all right. It's

14:40

pretty weird, pretty weird, isn't it? I mean,

14:42

it's not very good. I

14:45

mean, it's the one of your more popular Christmas

14:47

chocolate treats. You

14:49

know, I don't like them. I mean, out of all the

14:51

chocolate treats. I

14:54

don't like them. I don't like them. Here's my problem.

14:56

It might not air. It looks like a nice big

14:58

chocolate bar, but it seems like it's supposed to be

15:00

air. I think my favorite

15:03

are the, have you

15:05

tried to like kinder chocolate bars? I

15:07

don't like those either. They don't taste like

15:09

real chocolate. They

15:13

taste like European to me. Well, none of them

15:15

are real chocolate, man. None of them, like if

15:17

you had to break down the actual cocoa percentage,

15:19

probably like less than 10%, for sure. What's

15:23

your favorite there, that fucking corn or

15:26

something? I just like, you know, like a

15:28

lot of gold or something, you

15:30

know? A lot of gold. What the fuck is

15:32

that? You mean like, you want a whole box

15:34

of chocolates? I just think you're like... You've

15:37

called me like the, you said that it's

15:39

the ones that the old people like. Like

15:41

I like all the

15:44

caramel, not the caramel necessarily, but the ones with

15:46

the nougat and the stuff in them. The

15:50

nougat? That's racist. A nougat. A

15:53

nougat. A nougat. Yeah,

16:00

you know what? What about the

16:02

old like the peppermint ones, like

16:04

those little flat peppermint ones? Those

16:07

are old people ones. My grandma always had those. They were

16:09

like, I forget what they were called. The after eats are

16:11

good. The after eats are good. That's

16:13

what it is. Yeah, the after. But

16:17

I don't know. Plain chocolate to be honest with

16:19

you. I don't like all the stuff in there.

16:21

I just like like rosebuds. Just plain chocolate rosebuds.

16:24

And they're probably not chocolate eaters, but. No,

16:26

no, like just like. The

16:29

awesome white dog was fine. He ate

16:31

like eight. He pounded back. Because

16:34

he's white and he's just a beautiful

16:36

looking dog. Like

16:39

if he was back, he wouldn't be beautiful. No,

16:43

he just happened to be. But he had

16:45

a cone on his head because he has to stop licking

16:47

his wounds or something. So, you know,

16:51

but just a super good dog. I mean, anyways,

16:54

he was fine. He ate like himself

16:57

and ate my mom

16:59

and I both times. You

17:01

guys are a team. Yeah. I'll

17:04

say how come Maria didn't play? She

17:08

was in bed. I.

17:10

She's not doing very well. Right

17:13

now. I wonder how do you I'd like

17:15

to hear more about this game that you can play online.

17:17

Can you just play any card game online then we can

17:20

just play poker? Yeah, you could. I

17:22

think. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like deck of cards.

17:25

There's no way to cheat. No,

17:29

no, you can't cheat. Yeah, that's the thing. You

17:31

all log into a table or something. Yeah,

17:35

exactly. Yeah, it's pretty easy. It's

17:37

pretty as far as like, you

17:39

know, having like your parents

17:41

play and stuff that maybe not used to

17:43

online stuff. It's pretty easy and intuitive. You

17:45

just you just pick up a card. You play

17:47

your card, you discard it, you press the button,

17:50

the play button, and then it goes to the

17:52

next person. Sue Breeze. Really good

17:54

for you. You know, Christian pick like the

17:56

number of cards you want to deal out, the number

17:58

of decks you want to use. Exactly. You

18:01

play Go Fish. Yeah, you could

18:03

play whatever you want in a war. War. Yeah,

18:08

I mean there's a couple different, different elements. This

18:10

was the one that seemed to be the easiest to

18:12

use for whatever you want. I'm

18:17

intrigued by this weird game that doesn't need

18:20

a board or anything. Yeah, well,

18:23

I mean I can show it to you if you want me to, you

18:25

know. Not

18:27

now, but you know, maybe we could teach you.

18:30

It sounds cooler than Dungeons and Dragons. I mean

18:32

it involves cards and like... Oh my gosh, you

18:35

know, you're like, you're about a silly card game

18:37

and like D&D is the most complex, like, interesting,

18:39

creative game ever and you just don't even know

18:41

what it's like. What a thing to say. And

18:44

you like sort of fantasy and sci-fi too, so

18:46

I mean you'd think that. I

18:49

like to read about it. I don't like to pretend

18:51

I'm in the book. Just

18:54

give me your heart. I'm not just like, man, I

18:56

wish I was in this book right now. I'll do

18:58

what's up. It's

19:02

just entertaining. We

19:04

should mention that we're doing the Fandango. We

19:07

should, yeah. Did we do it last year? I

19:09

think we took a few years off, right? Yeah,

19:12

it was getting to be a bit of a shit show it seems like.

19:14

So what are we doing? Yeah. Well,

19:16

I don't know yet, but we're going

19:18

to connect with the... ...cruiser

19:21

from Stakeboys and

19:23

take some calls, I guess, or just shoot the

19:25

shit with them. I mean, we haven't talked to

19:27

them really in a long time, so there'll be

19:30

plenty to catch up on and chat about just

19:32

with them. But it looks like

19:34

we'll also like field some

19:36

calls in their Zoom room or however they

19:38

do it. However they do, because they probably

19:41

just be in their Zoom thing. If you want to get in,

19:43

you can call in and give you the number because you can

19:46

just call into Zoom, right? Yeah,

19:48

you can just call in to Zoom, yeah. So they're going

19:50

to handle it. They're going to handle the infrastructure and we'll

19:52

just go in there and do that. That's

19:55

right. So the

19:57

Christmas Fandango is back. January

20:00

1st, right? January 1st. Monday,

20:02

January 1st. New Year's holiday. Fandango.

20:04

I guess. I

20:07

think we're asking on Christmas. We'll

20:10

do it on January 1st and we'll Fandango

20:13

and call in if you want. It'll be, looks

20:15

like we got it scheduled from 5 PM

20:18

to 7 PM Pacific and,

20:21

uh, 6

20:24

PM. Is it? No. 5

20:27

to 7 Pacific would be 8 to 8 to 10. I

20:31

forget what fucking time now. Um,

20:33

I better check. I better check. Now that

20:35

I'm talking about it, I better get the

20:38

time. Right. Yeah. In the meantime, I'm going

20:40

to talk about a new audio book for

20:42

Christmas. I mean, it's Rudolph Steiner's Christianity as

20:44

Mystical Fact and the Mysteries

20:46

of Antiquity. It's on our

20:48

podcast and it's coming out in audible as

20:50

well, but it's on our podcast. It was

20:52

written in 1902 as

20:55

simultaneously mysticism and fact. Christianity is

20:57

a breakthrough in the historical development

20:59

of humanity for which the mysteries

21:02

with the results that they brought about from

21:04

a prior evolutionary stage. That's from Rudolph Steiner.

21:08

So he talks about the mysteries and their

21:11

wisdom, the Greek sages, Plato, the wisdom

21:14

of the mysteries and the myth, the

21:16

wiz, the mystery wisdom of Egypt, the

21:18

gospels, the Lazarus miracle, the apocalypse of

21:21

St. John, Jesus and his historical background,

21:24

the nature of Christianity, Christianity and heathen wisdom

21:26

and St. Augustine and the church. That

21:29

book is actually free this month on

21:32

the I Don't Brain audiobook podcast. There

21:34

you go. And what other ones? Malleus

21:36

Maleficarum as well. Malleus

21:39

Maleficarum and

21:43

the hammer of the witches and the world.

21:45

I thought that would couple up nice. I

21:47

like how you do those earliest vampire chronicles.

21:49

Kind of like they're going to taste some

21:51

fiction. Fantasy Dungeons and Dragons stuff

21:53

with some witches and some vampires. So

21:56

they learned that some of their meetups that I gotta be

21:58

easy on what I say about these. Dungeons and

22:00

Dragons because I don't I am ostracizing a

22:02

very very large percentage of the audience like

22:05

I don't know if it's 50% But

22:07

it's pushing 50% At

22:11

least 30 or 40 percent of the audience

22:13

are fond of Dungeons and Dragons Unbelievable.

22:16

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25:33

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25:35

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25:38

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25:40

who who they are a book calm

25:42

as their website and I

25:45

found it here. So Leslie Shaw She's

25:48

she's been a lifelong science fiction fan

25:50

very route very well read in that

25:52

genre She's had a keen

25:54

interest in ufology spent many years of reading and

25:56

research in that field She's written news articles poetry

25:59

and now is completed their first book, Who They

26:01

Are and What They're Up To, in which

26:03

she expounds on the theories about UFOs and beings

26:05

who are flying them. She

26:07

and her husband, Steven, now reside

26:09

in California. Steven

26:13

wrote the content for

26:15

a website that's detailing methods using

26:17

homeopathy and Chinese medicine as adjacent

26:19

treatments for cancer. His

26:22

family has a long multi-generational history

26:24

of strange otherworldly phenomena. And

26:27

there's more about that if you read the

26:29

preface of the book. Yeah,

26:33

he was a state-licensed practitioner of Chinese medicine

26:35

and acupuncture for 20 years and a teacher

26:37

of the Yang and Chen styles of Tai

26:39

Chi, Quan for 23 years. So

26:44

yeah, pretty fast. It was actually

26:46

fascinating, Chad. And interesting. Yeah, it

26:48

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26:50

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28:49

Leslie and Stephen Shaw, thanks for joining us in

28:51

Great America. Welcome, how you doing? Thank

28:53

you for having me. Very well, thank you. Good,

28:55

good, yeah. It was great timing. Thanks for coming

28:58

on short notice. You know, we

29:00

got in contact and usually, you know, I'm booking about a

29:02

month in advance, but we had an opening this week. So

29:04

thank you for the short notice. And, you know, I did

29:06

have a chance to peruse your book. It

29:09

was really, I do have a sort of a bit of a

29:11

personal synchronicity. I mean, it's probably not, Darren's gonna just laugh. It's

29:14

nothing, but I was talking to friends and

29:16

family on my way to Darren's. And I was

29:19

thinking about trying to get you guys on a

29:21

real short notice here about your

29:23

book. And I didn't really look into exactly what

29:26

your book was about, but we were talking about how

29:29

this ancient history, this lost ancient history

29:31

in UFOs is all connected, right? It's

29:33

not necessarily about ETs, but there's a

29:35

deeper connection there. And then I

29:37

started reading your book and it was like sort of

29:40

answering all the questions that I was

29:42

talking to my friends and family about. So, yeah,

29:45

we're very science driven and we don't

29:47

jump down rabbit holes. So we're, you

29:50

know, pretty sanguine in that

29:52

way. So we don't, you know, our theories don't

29:54

require wormholes or portholes or or

30:01

interstellar travel?

30:04

Necessarily. That's a good point, yeah.

30:08

Is it pretty nuts and bolts then? Is

30:10

that pretty safe to say? I

30:12

guess that's the term I've heard thrown out, nuts and

30:14

bolts. Well, we're just taking

30:16

from what we've been able to garner

30:19

from things that have been written,

30:21

everything from the Bible to the

30:23

Mahabharata, to Chinese

30:25

texts, to our own experiences, and

30:28

just using logic. Instead

30:32

of just jumping down, all of

30:34

a sudden it's got to be an Einstein-Rosen

30:36

bridge, and they have to have

30:38

all this technology. No, no,

30:41

that's what it states in the

30:43

Bible. We're just

30:45

looking at it from the standpoint, because I was

30:47

very much into science because I was a doctor

30:49

for 20 years. I

30:51

look at things very much from my logical

30:53

and courses-not-zebra standpoint.

30:57

Our theories began to evolve once

30:59

we realized that UFO fact

31:01

and UFO theories were not aligning.

31:05

The theories were that there's coming from

31:09

vast interstellar distances, but

31:12

our research shows that these things are making an appearance

31:14

about 100,000 times per year. So

31:19

are they coming here 100,000 times a

31:21

year from Al-Sintari or wherever, or

31:24

do they live here as

31:26

we surmise that they're already

31:28

here in underground bases? Massive

31:32

cities. Before we get

31:34

into your overall theory, why

31:38

did you decide to write a book like this? Because

31:41

a lot of people write as if they

31:43

don't want to say what's going on. They're

31:46

just like, here's all the stuff, we don't really have a theory. But

31:48

you guys started to put it out there and say, it's

31:51

more about this. I'm sure it's not

31:53

dogmatic about that. But what we've

31:55

come out with is different, was

31:57

to actually come to conclusions. the

32:00

data and come

32:02

to conclusions that

32:06

people could relate to. We

32:08

really had two motivating factors. One

32:10

of them was Leslie having seen two

32:13

UFOs herself. She'd

32:15

always kind of 95% believed me about

32:17

certain things that I had said. And

32:20

then also two, to try and help to explain

32:22

all the things that had been happening in

32:24

my life throughout and in my

32:26

three generations of my family that were just

32:29

quite unexplainable. So they were two motivating

32:31

factors. So about 20 some odd years

32:34

ago, we started more

32:36

seriously before the

32:38

smartphones and kind of thing like that. We started

32:40

really kind of looking into it and trying

32:43

to sift through and trying to make some

32:45

sense. So part of us trying to make

32:47

sense for ourselves to explain and

32:50

just to learn. Right. I

32:52

mean, he has seen three UFOs before.

32:54

And then we've

32:56

seen two together after

32:59

that. And my first was in 2005. And

33:02

I did believe

33:04

my husband, I did believe his

33:06

what his alien abduction stories and

33:08

his his his UFO sightings,

33:11

I just didn't believe it. Nine, 100%.

33:13

I believed that

33:15

95%. And then there there's that day

33:17

where you see your own. And now it's 100%. What

33:22

did you see? You

33:25

were traveling west on

33:28

the Highway 62 in Joshua Tree,

33:30

California. And in front

33:32

of us, a bright white light

33:34

started to get brighter and brighter

33:36

and brighter. And I thought it was first was

33:39

a plane maybe coming into Palm

33:41

Springs Airport. But the closer

33:43

it got, I realized there's no there were

33:45

no extra lights like planes have, you know,

33:47

extra blinking lights on the sides. And it

33:49

just was a white light getting brighter and

33:51

brighter and brighter. And

33:54

then it shot away north

33:56

over the northern horizon and

33:58

gone. about a quarter

34:00

of a second. It had to have been

34:02

moving at multiple thousands of miles per hour. And

34:07

it took off at speed.

34:10

It didn't slowly ramp up to

34:12

speed. It was instantaneously

34:14

going at that incredible

34:16

speed. And the

34:19

second one we saw together was

34:21

similar, it was a white light,

34:23

but it was doing very bizarre

34:25

maneuvers, making, you know, not U-turns

34:28

like our planes have to slowly

34:30

bank and make a

34:32

slow U-turn. These were making V-turns

34:35

at speed and hovering, stopping,

34:37

hovering, definitely things are... Soundless and

34:39

weak and there was another couple

34:42

that also... Always silent. Yes, there's

34:44

another couple also too on the

34:46

street where we lived that also

34:48

saw it too at the same time. Yeah. So

34:51

four people saw that particular event.

34:54

But then... I'm sorry.

34:56

That's one of the things that sticks out for

34:58

me is the silence because, you know, people

35:00

like to say, oh, it's a, you know,

35:02

a B2 or it's a stealth thing or

35:04

like, they're so, they're so loud compared to

35:06

the people. The first

35:08

one that it was it like, did

35:11

it kind of look like a star, like it could have

35:13

been the space station or something until it took off? Because

35:16

that's kind of... Yeah, just a white light, a

35:18

round white light getting brighter and brighter, which

35:20

of course, white lights in the sky can

35:22

be any number of things. And

35:25

I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have slapped the label

35:27

of UFO on it just looking at it. But

35:29

then it took off at that speed. At first

35:31

we thought it was an airplane coming into Palm

35:33

Springs airport, but it certainly was not that. It

35:35

was, we just assumed right

35:37

away that it was an airplane.

35:39

But anyway, so that was

35:42

the two that that Leslie saw with me.

35:44

The first one that I saw was when

35:46

I was about 10 years old. It

35:49

was one of those classic orange,

35:51

large globes that was just

35:54

hovering and moving from north to south. And

35:56

it was a nighttime, probably about nine o'clock at night.

35:58

And I, I actually called

36:01

Griffith Park Observatory about that particular

36:03

incident the day after, and I

36:05

talked to the astronomer and

36:07

said, well, you know, sir, we don't have

36:10

our telescopes aimed that

36:14

way, so you wouldn't know anything about

36:16

it. Nothing was reported, but it was

36:18

just like you've heard probably of people

36:20

reporting the orange globes that just are

36:23

very distinct. And the second

36:26

one I saw was with

36:28

another person who was

36:30

a valet at a restaurant

36:32

called the Chart House in

36:35

Malibu, California. It was

36:38

the wintertime. I know it was because it

36:40

was the playoffs being the Boston Red Sox

36:42

and the New York Yankees. And I

36:44

went out to get my car, and it's right on

36:46

the beach, right? So I went

36:48

to get my car, and we both saw this

36:51

white object rise up out of the ocean. And

36:54

then it started doing its crazy maneuvers. And we both

36:56

looked at each other and said, did you see that?

36:59

And he said, yeah, yeah, I saw that.

37:02

And the other one was one

37:04

that was a multiple sighting that was early

37:07

morning. It was like

37:09

8 o'clock in the morning, and a

37:12

number of people saw a silver object

37:14

that was hovering in the sky in Yucca

37:18

Valley. It was reported to the radio

37:20

station. That must have been about 2006

37:22

maybe. And

37:27

then there's the abduction phenomenon

37:29

with his family. It

37:31

seems to have targeted his family

37:34

particularly, he and his brother especially.

37:37

His brother remembered seeing a gray

37:39

alien in his room before he

37:41

blacked out. And another time, he

37:43

heard a sound on the floor. He was in the

37:45

bed, and he heard a sound on the floor thinking

37:47

it was a cat. And he reached down to pet

37:49

the cat. Instead, something grabbed his arm, and

37:52

then he blacked out again. And I'll

37:55

let Steve tell his story. My brother also had

37:57

one too. These all happened about when he was

37:59

a kid. about 16. He had one

38:01

where he was awakened by two bright lights

38:03

outside of his bedroom

38:06

window. And granted, this is a house

38:08

that my dad and I and my

38:10

brother all built with our hands. And

38:13

where we were living, there were no

38:15

houses around. There were no airplanes.

38:18

It was just kind of rare, like a

38:20

sturdist by covering there. And again, he blacked

38:22

out. But for myself, my

38:24

first experiences with weird

38:26

or unusual happened when I

38:29

was three, I would fairly

38:31

commonly be awakened

38:34

in again the middle of the night, early

38:36

morning hours, by this invisible being that would

38:38

be jumping playfully on my

38:40

stomach and my chest. Invisible. And

38:43

invisible. And it was not, you

38:45

know, malicious or anything like that.

38:47

It was just like having

38:49

fun. And I just kind of accepted

38:52

it as being something

38:54

that was just normal. I

38:57

had heard about the family spirit guide

38:59

called Old Gleglie that had been showing

39:03

manifesting itself to

39:07

multiple generations of the Shaw and the

39:09

Rowe family. Mostly the Rowe family. By

39:12

the way, it seems like it's the Rowe

39:14

side of the family that my mom made

39:17

name. And funnily enough, you look up the name Rowe. It

39:20

means, it

39:22

translates as the tall red-haired ones,

39:25

which is kind of very

39:27

interesting. So in and of

39:29

itself. But then I fast forward

39:31

to about again, about to the age of

39:33

nine. And I was sleeping in a

39:35

bunk bed at that time in my life. My brother was

39:37

on the bottom. I was on the top. And

39:40

I heard these unusual sounds that

39:42

I heard coming from the living room. So I got

39:44

out of the bunk bed and I started

39:46

walking on the hallway. And my heart

39:48

was pounding. I was like really unusually

39:51

nervous about. I didn't

39:53

know what I was going to see. And I

39:55

just get toward like turning towards to the

39:58

right to go into the living room. And

40:00

I black out and then next thing

40:02

I know about two or three hours later I'm back

40:05

in my bunk bed having no clue what

40:07

had happened, but I'm back in my bunk bed

40:09

and My brother my

40:12

younger brother is now deceased He

40:14

spent a couple years at least sleeping

40:17

in the closet because he told me he was

40:19

scared of quote the little men that would come

40:21

in the middle of the night and Visit

40:24

him. So I just

40:27

again Burgers kids So I just was thinking

40:29

that you know, whatever, you know just for

40:31

kids so anyway,

40:34

the really strangest thing that happened

40:36

to me which happened

40:38

in 1979

40:40

January of 1979 I was 18 years old and number

40:47

of things that happened But one of the

40:49

ones that happened was that I had gotten

40:51

literally scared to sleep in my in my

40:54

room Because I had been being harassed

40:56

and my dad had been being harassed

40:58

and and other things were

41:00

happening So anyways, I was sleeping on the

41:02

couch in the living room and I was

41:04

sleeping, you know face up and I woke

41:06

up about Six

41:08

o'clock 5 36 o'clock in the morning

41:11

was still dark and I looked at

41:13

my piano because I'm a pianist and

41:15

I think but what I was gonna play and I listened

41:17

to a little fountain that was in the Distant room and

41:19

I was thinking well, I'm not gonna get up as too

41:22

early in then from behind me

41:24

from the front door This entity came

41:27

blue white tall blue white entity probably

41:30

six to seven feet tall and

41:32

it was standing but it literally

41:35

kind of Hovered or floated it

41:37

didn't walk but it moved very quickly in

41:39

about two seconds It was by

41:41

my right side and it Literally

41:44

paralyzed me not in a not in a

41:47

terrifying way But just basically the right

41:49

side of my body the whole right

41:51

side of my body I could not move

41:53

and I felt it bend down and

41:56

whisper in my ear You

41:59

know just Like a friendly whisper, I

42:01

couldn't tell whether it was male or female. And

42:05

I was thinking, oh great, I get

42:07

to see the family spirit guide all

42:09

gladly, but by the same time, I

42:11

also couldn't move. So I was

42:13

both really excited, but I was, you know,

42:15

it was the unknown, so I was scared.

42:19

And then eventually I felt

42:21

it, you know, go

42:24

back and then basically go out the front door.

42:27

To this day, I can't remember to

42:29

this day if I went and told my dad

42:32

about what had happened or whether I just had

42:34

that missing time. It's just like that part is

42:36

gone. What I do know though

42:38

is six hours later, it was around 1130

42:40

and I was going to go get some lunch

42:43

for my dad and myself. And I

42:45

decided to reach, because I was a cabinet maker,

42:47

my dad and I were cabinet makers and we

42:50

were working out of our house. So I reached into

42:52

my right hand side pocket to pull out some change.

42:55

And all the coins, all the coins and

42:58

all the nails, especially the coins, they were

43:00

all magnetic or I could

43:02

pick up the coins with the coins. It didn't

43:04

matter which coin I tried. I could pick up

43:06

the coins and they were all

43:08

just sticking to each other. They were magnetized.

43:10

They were all magnetized. Which is supposed to

43:12

be impossible. Which is supposed to be impossible.

43:15

I've been trying since that time to try

43:17

and get an explanation like what could

43:19

do that, what force could do that. I

43:22

can say that it happened and I had witnessed

43:24

and there have

43:26

been, it doesn't matter where I live. I've

43:29

had very unusual things happen in

43:31

at least different homes in which I've lived.

43:33

So it's not a haunting. Yeah, it's not

43:36

like a haunting. It tends to follow the

43:38

family wherever they go. And

43:40

yes, exactly. Where did

43:42

you see that red, the orange orb? That

43:47

was in Woodland Hills, California. California,

43:49

okay. We had a guy on like many

43:51

years ago, I don't know if you guys have ever heard of Terry

43:54

Ray. He wrote a book

43:56

about the orange orbs called The Invasion of the

43:58

Orange Orbs. And for some reason, like. the UFO

44:00

community, this was probably like 2015, 2014, they just

44:02

seemed to kind of ignore it. I mean,

44:06

I thought it was a great book because he

44:08

had plotted all the data from orange, only orange

44:10

orbs and red orbs. Sounds

44:12

interesting. And they were all around,

44:15

not all of them, but the majority of them

44:17

were around nine or ten at night. So that

44:19

matches kind of Stevenson. Yeah. And he tracked them

44:22

from three different locations in the US.

44:24

So one was Catalina Island in California.

44:27

Well, that's very close to where we

44:29

are. Yeah. That's why

44:31

I wondered if it was California that

44:33

you saw that. Yeah. And then yes,

44:36

yeah, Woodland Hills is only about a

44:38

25 minute drive from Woodland Hills to

44:40

the Malibu. Yeah. Go across to Panka

44:42

Canyon. So it's very, it's very close.

44:44

And we can see Catalina just across

44:46

the. Right. So I mean, and

44:49

then there was another, I can't remember whether there

44:51

was one in Florida, I think, and somewhere up

44:53

on the East Coast, maybe I can't remember what

44:55

the third one was, but pretty interesting, interesting book.

44:57

And I mean, I hear that also

44:59

that there's sort of a cloak. It's a cloaking device.

45:01

Like it's just a cover for whatever's flying around there.

45:04

I kind of think

45:06

of these orbs as remote viewing machines,

45:09

like they're spy machines, so to speak. That's

45:12

too small for, they've been, they've

45:15

been, the

45:19

Red Ripper Squadron on the East Coast who

45:21

filmed the Go Fast videos and the gimbal

45:23

videos, they

45:26

got a really close look at one of

45:28

these orbs. It's about 15 foot diameter and

45:30

they're clear. It's almost like clear

45:32

glass and they'll have, they

45:34

have inside them, it

45:38

looks like a metal or a black

45:40

cube spinning inside of it.

45:43

And I think that these orbs are surveillance

45:46

devices. At 15 feet diameter, it

45:48

wouldn't be large enough to accommodate

45:50

a pilot. Oh well, a small

45:53

crew maybe. Yeah. Really? Yeah,

46:00

the same ones that are controlling the Bigfoots

46:02

when they were on, you know, when

46:04

you mentioned seeing that light that took off to

46:07

the North, it reminded me of my

46:09

sighting, which I think was probably

46:11

in 2010. If I have to guess, it

46:13

was either 2010 or 2009, but I want to say it was

46:15

summer 2010, probably,

46:20

but mine was, it was clearly moving

46:23

east to west. So I thought it was like me

46:25

and my buddy, it was the space station

46:27

or a satellite. We were pointing out, we

46:29

were watching it, oh, look, there's a

46:32

satellite or something. Because it was

46:34

moving in a very linear east

46:37

to west sort of trajectory. And

46:39

then about halfway or two thirds

46:42

of the way across the horizon, it took

46:44

off to the North. It was very clearly

46:46

to the North. And it was

46:48

that same sort of thing where there wasn't really any acceleration

46:50

or anything. It was just like, boom.

46:52

And it was, it was gone. It

46:54

happened so fast that you didn't

46:56

really know what the fuck happened. But

46:59

there was some sort of like imprint

47:01

of like the flash, the flashback, like when

47:03

you close your eyes after the lights went

47:05

on of the North, you can see like

47:07

the streaker of it clearly

47:10

going to the North. So that's. Did

47:12

you see the same thing? Like it streaks

47:14

out in a long line and then the

47:17

back of the line catches up with it?

47:19

Yeah, exactly. Like it's gone. And

47:21

then it happened so fast. And we, I mean,

47:24

we were we were admittedly we were smoking a joint.

47:26

So it was me and my buddy and his brother

47:28

and we were that's what we were outside doing. We

47:30

wrote. But it was just because we

47:32

were all just like, whoa, did you see that? Yeah.

47:36

And then we just sort of went on with our

47:38

lives and didn't think didn't

47:40

think much of it ever again. You know, I just assumed

47:43

that I must have been this or must have been that.

47:45

I really wasn't into it at

47:47

the time. I just didn't, you

47:49

know, now I'm doing a podcast about it. I probably if

47:51

it happened now, it'd be a lot more, a

47:54

lot more interested in it. I just kind of took

47:56

it in passing. It was, you know, something

47:58

that I couldn't explain. But

48:00

you know, I didn't really think of it a lot until you

48:02

just mentioned your sighting then there because it

48:05

was a lot like that and it very clearly

48:07

went to the north. Where

48:09

was it in the US? I

48:12

would just just outside of Calgary,

48:14

Alberta, Canada. So that'd be like,

48:17

yeah, straight north. So like,

48:21

oh, like Phoenix, maybe. Great

48:23

Falls, Montana. Vegas,

48:26

we're like straight north of Vegas, pretty much. I

48:29

was wondering, supposedly

48:31

there's a lay line that goes through

48:33

Joshua Tree and it

48:36

seemed to us that this

48:38

thing may have been traveling along

48:40

it. It's near

48:42

where the giant rock and Integratron is,

48:44

if you're familiar with those things,

48:47

George Van Tassel and the Integratron and Giant

48:50

Rock, which used to be the

48:52

largest standing boulder in the world. It seemed

48:54

to me like it was just slowly creeping

48:56

up on being at

48:58

the lay line. But once it was there,

49:01

gone out of the world at 10,000

49:03

miles an hour. We

49:07

wouldn't be surprised if it was that fast.

49:10

We did big fit days this past summer

49:12

up in Willow Creek. And

49:14

then we went to Andersonville and met

49:16

some people. And you know, you just

49:18

meet people in passing and a couple

49:20

of different people talked about green orbs.

49:24

That they had seen. It's always

49:26

like just before dawn and

49:28

going to work like a four or five o'clock in

49:30

the morning and green orbs is going

49:32

along like maybe 20, 30

49:34

feet above the ground and

49:36

then just small again, like

49:39

almost like a drone,

49:41

almost kind of like, but also

49:43

not behaving like a drone. So I started

49:46

sifting millions of

49:48

sightings, just reading and

49:50

reading and reading, move on sightings

49:53

and databases and

49:55

lists. And I keep hearing that

49:58

UFOs are spotted. They're spotted coming out

50:00

of the ocean. They're spotted coming out

50:02

of lakes. They're spotted coming out

50:05

of volcanoes. They're spotted coming out of

50:07

holes that open in

50:09

the side of mesas and

50:11

mountains. Like Mount Shasta. They

50:13

travel sideways in our airspace.

50:16

It's like they're here, just

50:18

traveling around the Earth when

50:21

they need to, when they have to go from one

50:23

place to another. And

50:26

now this will let us down to the

50:28

explanation we have for the cattle mutilations

50:31

too. Oh yes, the

50:35

cattle mutilations, we have a theory for

50:37

it. We believe that

50:39

these creatures are

50:43

essentially related to humans. They're cousins

50:45

of ours that we believe separated

50:48

from our race roughly

50:50

13,000 years ago. And

50:55

when we separated from them, some

50:59

of them kept their technology and the

51:01

thread of their knowledge and some of us did not.

51:04

And I believe that we're dealing

51:06

with cousins, close cousins. When

51:09

I see a gray alien, this thing

51:11

is much closer to the human race

51:13

than our closest relative, the bonobo chimp.

51:16

This thing is much closer to us. I feel

51:19

like I'm looking in a mirror when I'm,

51:21

you know, and the

51:23

Nordics are supposed to be indistinguishable

51:25

from human beings. So

51:28

I see these as cousins

51:30

more than aliens. From

51:33

before the younger drives or afterwards? Well,

51:35

I guess. Before the younger drives, yes.

51:38

When the split happened, when that big cataclysm happened then,

51:41

so sometimes we believe that. That's

51:44

why there was four warning of the

51:46

whole, we've tracked about 1,200 different

51:50

myths and legends from

51:52

every corner of the planet that

51:54

talk about a disembodied voice. And they're

51:57

all remarkably similar, yeah. Disembodied

51:59

voice. says, you know, either

52:01

build an arc or go to high ground.

52:03

People were warned all over the planet and

52:07

some survived. But what I think happened

52:10

was they saw it coming, they

52:12

sank some arcs deep underground,

52:14

took their technology with them

52:17

and their knowledge and then left us poor

52:20

schmucks on the surface to just get wiped

52:23

out almost. I was supposedly

52:25

our population has at one point

52:28

had a bottleneck of down to

52:30

about 10,000 individuals and the

52:32

rest of us have

52:35

been born from that our population

52:38

has regenerated from those 10,000

52:40

individuals and that's why our race is not anywhere

52:42

near as diverse as it really should be. Not

52:45

as telepathic, not as diverse, you

52:47

know, their sisters. Absolutely.

52:50

And what we often found with our research is

52:52

just how common asteroids and

52:55

meteorites hit the earth. It's the

52:57

ones that we found so far.

52:59

It's not an uncommon thing to

53:01

happen. So if you have an

53:03

advanced technology, an advanced civilization that

53:05

is tired of losing your technology and

53:07

you can actually see something going to

53:09

happen but you can't do anything really

53:11

about it. Just stay safely underground. No,

53:13

all you got to do is go

53:15

underground. In fact the Chinese have been

53:17

doing that for over a thousand years.

53:19

They have whole cities that are, you

53:21

know, underground. We found Derankuyu in the

53:23

southern part of Turkey. That's

53:25

like 13 stories down. That was

53:27

built, you know, sometime again, you know,

53:31

pre-flood. Right, we

53:34

believe pre-flood. The

53:37

Hiawatha asteroid impact,

53:40

for two decades

53:43

we've known that it happened and

53:46

because they found nano diamonds in the

53:48

soil of the Eselo horizon and the

53:50

Younger Dryas boundary. These are the soil

53:53

layers from that time period. 13,000

53:56

years ago. It shows a layer of charcoal

53:58

like the whole planet. that was almost was

54:00

on fire at the same time. All the

54:03

forests were on fire at the same time.

54:05

Especially the Northern Hemisphere. Especially the Northern Hemisphere.

54:07

It's in like four continents on 10 countries.

54:10

This layer of charcoal

54:12

has been discovered in 13,000 year old soil. And

54:15

so we knew that somehow there

54:18

was a celestial impact of some kind,

54:20

but they couldn't find the crater. And

54:23

because the nano diamonds were

54:25

found in high concentration in

54:27

the East North American continent,

54:30

it was surmised that the crater was hiding

54:32

somewhere under the ice sheet. And

54:34

that's exactly where it was. In

54:37

2016, it was discovered and

54:41

it's under the Hiawatha

54:43

Glacier of Northern Greenland. And

54:47

the impact would have created

54:51

thousand foot tsunamis worldwide.

54:54

And we believe is the source for the great

54:57

flood myths. And

54:59

we believe these pools have dug

55:01

underground and are safe

55:04

in arcs below. And

55:06

then the climate change fluctuations

55:09

after the impact lasted

55:11

about a thousand years. So

55:14

we think they just decided to stay because

55:16

it was miserable on the surface. You

55:19

mentioned a split, any evidence of like,

55:23

because it seems like we had, if we knew it

55:25

was coming, there was some sort of high tech going

55:27

around. Any evidence of anyone

55:29

parting off to the moon? Well,

55:32

actually, I think

55:34

there are some evidence that there's

55:37

lunar bases and also bases on Mars.

55:42

You know, Homo sapiens sapiens, we've

55:45

been in existence for 120,000 years minimum. We

55:49

know that at least 120,000 years, some

55:52

people surmise much longer. But

55:55

mainstream archeology would have you believe that

55:57

we sat around for 107. years,

56:01

making no advancements, living in caves, picking

56:03

fleas off our butts, and freezing our

56:06

nips off for 107,000 years

56:08

until we finally 13,000 years ago just decided to get smarter

56:15

and get some gumption and invent the

56:17

house. Invent

56:20

the will, invent the house, invent

56:23

electricity, or discover electricity. In

56:25

107,000 years, that's enough time for us

56:27

to go from the caves to

56:29

the moon

56:31

seven times.

56:38

We believe that we

56:40

had a more advanced technology civilization

56:42

prior to the Flood. We certainly

56:44

knew how to manipulate rock, that's

56:46

for sure. We knew how to

56:48

manipulate rock. We had lunar bases

56:51

and bases on Mars, sure. Just

56:54

13,000 years for us

56:56

from being shoved

56:58

back into the Stone Age,

57:01

13,000 years is all

57:03

it took to get us back to being

57:05

a space faring, speaking together. Now

57:08

we have Elon Musk. Do

57:10

you think it's a cyclical thing? Do you think it

57:12

happens every 12, 13,000 years type? It's

57:16

certainly possible that they

57:19

were destroyed at some

57:21

point in that 107-year time period and

57:25

got shoved back into the Stone Age themselves

57:28

and had to build back out of it. We

57:32

don't know for sure. There was an asteroid

57:34

impact about 5,000 years ago,

57:36

and that could have

57:38

affected, I mean, I'm sorry, 50,000 years ago,

57:40

and that could have affected the development of

57:42

the human race at that point, too. There

57:48

are a lot of unusual things

57:50

about the human species. Our fascination

57:53

with gold is one of them.

57:55

Oh, and that's a good reason

57:57

why the cattle are being mutilated.

58:00

went underground, they took herds with them,

58:03

and these herds have become non-viable,

58:05

living underground. What do

58:07

they take? They take the genetic material, and

58:10

the tongue and the eye, the sky-facing eye.

58:12

They ex-sanguinate, so they take all the blood,

58:14

and they're taking genetic material, and it's not

58:17

just a science project, it's necessity. And

58:19

we think that's why they're taking humans, is

58:21

they need the genetic material for their

58:24

breeding program. What do you

58:26

mean by genetic material, then? Like sperm

58:29

and actual sperm,

58:31

ovum, eggs, blood,

58:35

of course, things such as

58:37

that, and sometimes they'll take

58:40

a few people and maybe not return them.

58:42

Yeah, I think that's happening, too. So, like, there's

58:45

kind of a missing 411 aspect? Well,

58:49

there's, in Alaska, for instance, where

58:51

there is a lot of UFO activity,

58:53

and we believe at least two underground

58:55

bases, Mount Hayes and

58:57

also the Black Pyramid at Denali,

59:01

people there sometimes disappear, and there's

59:04

16,000 people have gone missing in

59:06

the last 30 years in Alaska.

59:08

We think sometimes they, of course,

59:10

sometimes they're eaten by a bear,

59:12

or lost, or whatever, but we

59:14

think sometimes they're just taken and

59:17

not put back. Yeah,

59:20

exactly. So what it makes

59:22

me think of is that you're talking

59:24

about a breakaway civilization since, like, from,

59:27

let's say, pre-Younger Jias Cataclysm.

59:30

And does that breakaway

59:32

civilization, is that the same one we're

59:34

seeing now? Like, are they now sort

59:36

of popping out and controlling our sort

59:39

of disclosure and our aerial, you

59:41

know, because they had the airships

59:43

in the 1800s, and there was all

59:46

this kind of, you know, even

59:48

ufology itself, modern ufology is kind of

59:51

obfuscated, you know,

59:54

there's all the stuff about

59:56

the old airships being charged by buildings.

1:00:00

And there was seemed to be like a technology that

1:00:02

was being used maybe in certain parts of the

1:00:04

world. But now we're back. Like they

1:00:06

kind of wiped the slate clean in the early

1:00:09

1900s, maybe World War I sort of

1:00:12

tied the bow on that. And then now

1:00:15

it feels like there's a

1:00:18

group running the show in the background. And

1:00:21

they're hiding in mountains, hollowed

1:00:24

out mountains. There's, you know, I think

1:00:26

also part of it too was of

1:00:28

course the famous 1938 War

1:00:33

of the Worlds that's really kind

1:00:35

of showed at least people in the United

1:00:37

States just how xenophobic we really are. And

1:00:40

even though it was told that this

1:00:42

is actually a show, it's not true.

1:00:45

This, you know, about aliens invading and

1:00:47

such like that. We really

1:00:49

are very fearful of things that

1:00:51

are different. And also too,

1:00:54

I've noticed that the

1:00:57

disclosure as far as saying

1:00:59

that, for instance, these people have been living

1:01:01

underground that are basically our cousins that are

1:01:04

more advanced than we are. And

1:01:06

they've been living under there for underground for

1:01:08

maybe 10,000 years or so and whatnot. People

1:01:12

don't feel comfortable knowing

1:01:14

that number one, human beings are not number one

1:01:17

on the planet. And number two, we have a

1:01:19

more advanced version of yourself that's living

1:01:22

under your floorboards. It's just it's

1:01:24

a very unsettling thing. And it would

1:01:26

crash. It would upset

1:01:28

the religion. It

1:01:33

would upset the stock markets. It would

1:01:35

upset, you know, international

1:01:37

markets. It would be something

1:01:40

that, you know, we made a deal

1:01:43

pretty much with Eisenhower. You know, Eisenhower

1:01:45

made a deal that we've been able

1:01:47

to find out so far. Yes, we

1:01:49

think they discovered the existence of these

1:01:52

creatures because they're not

1:01:54

creatures. They're our cousins. Yeah, cousins. Because

1:01:58

when we started using nuclear. weapons,

1:02:01

it very much alarmed them.

1:02:04

And you could see it in

1:02:06

their behavior afterwards. They started monitoring

1:02:10

all of our nuclear bases, all

1:02:12

of our nuclear silos. They would

1:02:14

have UFOs monitoring them. And

1:02:17

from what we're understanding from

1:02:19

the recent disclosures that happened

1:02:21

in a congressional hearing during

1:02:24

this last summer, the

1:02:27

pilots talked about how

1:02:30

these TIC-TAC

1:02:33

objects, these spheres, they

1:02:35

are dogging our military every

1:02:37

time we go out, every

1:02:39

maneuvers, everywhere in the world.

1:02:42

They are watching. In fact,

1:02:44

Freiver said only about 5% are reported because

1:02:47

of the suppression

1:02:50

and the fear. And the pilots

1:02:52

are afraid to report. Yes, so

1:02:54

it's much more common than people

1:02:56

than has been reported. But

1:02:59

they're worried, of course, they're very worried for

1:03:01

their fellow pilots. And the navigational

1:03:04

hazards these things are caused are, can

1:03:07

be, the Red

1:03:10

Rippers reported one of these spheres flying

1:03:13

between two of their jets

1:03:17

and only about 50 feet away. The jets

1:03:20

were only 100 feet from each other and this sphere

1:03:22

went right in between them at a

1:03:25

very high speed. And

1:03:28

ever since then, the pilots, the

1:03:31

Red Rippers have been quite concerned about

1:03:33

their fellow pilots, whether

1:03:35

they're gonna

1:03:37

finally crash into one of these things or not. Yeah,

1:03:41

you mentioned the disclosure, the impact it would

1:03:43

have. I think it would impact the most

1:03:45

the scientific community and the academia. I mean,

1:03:47

I don't, I think they're the ones that

1:03:49

aren't ready to accept a lot of this

1:03:51

stuff because for sure,

1:03:53

for sure. You guys have a chat, I

1:03:56

forgot you have a chapter in your book

1:03:58

about that too. Yeah. consciousness

1:04:00

aspect is what they're still talking about in this

1:04:02

even in this modern disclosure, which is interesting you're

1:04:04

seeing on x-posts all the time people are talking

1:04:06

about That it's related

1:04:08

to our consciousness so so how does that how

1:04:11

does that fit into your theory that that

1:04:13

we have some kind of like Control

1:04:15

or we can actually summon things or

1:04:17

you know, even from an occult or

1:04:19

magical point of view as well I'm

1:04:22

glad you asked that because for

1:04:26

me When all these interesting things

1:04:28

were happening back when I was 18 I was What

1:04:32

today you'd consider to be a very

1:04:34

chaste and pure soul. I

1:04:36

hadn't done anything sexually

1:04:39

I was Studying tai

1:04:41

chi and I was I was

1:04:43

a long-distance runner and I was in you

1:04:46

know Very very very very

1:04:48

very spiritual I was reading the

1:04:50

Paramahansa Yogananda stuff and I

1:04:52

was very much, you know very much that

1:04:55

way and I do in some

1:04:57

of the most amazing experiences that

1:04:59

have happened to me have been

1:05:01

because as

1:05:04

an example I studied tai chi and taught it

1:05:06

for 23 years and also studied

1:05:08

monkey kung fu and taught that a little

1:05:10

bit but one

1:05:12

of the things I talk about is the chi energy

1:05:14

and how to generate it and how to manifest it

1:05:16

and Literally chi energy

1:05:19

is real I've been hit

1:05:21

by chi energy I've been knocked on my butt

1:05:23

by chi energy from like about six feet away

1:05:25

and I've also knocked people over myself too iPad

1:05:29

the most amazing experiences I do think

1:05:31

that these entities are They're

1:05:34

psychic. They are telepathic I

1:05:37

think they do are they are attracted

1:05:39

to people that are more maybe higher

1:05:41

vibrational and Psychic

1:05:43

I see a psychic component in the

1:05:46

main my my family on the road

1:05:48

of the roadside There was that the

1:05:50

automatic riding was happening for two generations

1:05:52

back I come

1:05:54

from England and Scotland my heritage and

1:05:57

also Germany. So there were there

1:05:59

was that that stuff It was

1:06:01

just known in our bloodline

1:06:03

and we just kind of accepted

1:06:05

it. That was normal for

1:06:07

us. When we were studying, at one

1:06:11

point together we started studying

1:06:13

kundalini-raising techniques of chanting, meditation.

1:06:18

And we began to start opening

1:06:20

up some of these abilities

1:06:23

that are latent in

1:06:25

the human being but really

1:06:27

are part of our birthright. And

1:06:30

one of these abilities, I believe, is telepathy.

1:06:33

This is a human birthright that is something

1:06:35

all you have to do is awaken

1:06:39

these abilities inside yourself. And one of

1:06:41

the things we think has happened

1:06:43

is that these people who

1:06:45

have separated from us and didn't lose

1:06:47

their technology and didn't lose their knowledge,

1:06:51

they have continued to advance

1:06:53

spiritually as well. And

1:06:56

this is why they're capable of

1:06:58

telepathy with us. And

1:07:01

I don't think you could have telepathy

1:07:03

between two creatures that were not necessarily

1:07:05

the same species. An astral projection, I've

1:07:08

been doing that the first time I

1:07:10

astral projected consciously was when I was

1:07:12

17. And I

1:07:14

just actually astral projected about

1:07:17

four nights ago. I got out

1:07:19

of my body. I was sleeping in the bed. I got

1:07:22

out of my body and I went to go open the

1:07:24

door to go out

1:07:26

because Leslie was sleeping in the living room. I went

1:07:28

to go open the door. I got out of my

1:07:30

body and I couldn't open the door. Because he didn't bring

1:07:32

his hands with him. No, I had my hands, but

1:07:34

it was my – He was your astral hand. So

1:07:36

when I went back over to my body and I

1:07:38

looked at myself, am I dead? I

1:07:40

saw it got back into my property. I

1:07:43

mean these things are still happening to me. It's

1:07:46

something that – you hear about people doing remote

1:07:48

viewing and things like that. A few people were

1:07:50

able to do that legitimately.

1:07:53

And a few

1:07:55

people can do psychic things. And definitely astral

1:07:57

projection is something that I think is important.

1:08:00

I've had for most of my life and it's

1:08:02

it's a very real thing. It's kind of fun

1:08:04

too Well, where would you go if you

1:08:07

had a choice to pick a place and you were aware enough

1:08:09

to stay in that? In that out

1:08:11

of body state for a while. Where would you where would you

1:08:13

take yourself? I mean, I mean I'm I

1:08:15

was always Diving because I'm

1:08:17

afraid to scuba dive in real life, right, you

1:08:19

know sharks drowning, you know things like that Let's

1:08:22

see you went to the pyramids a couple and

1:08:24

I went to Egypt one time when you're out

1:08:26

of your body You can

1:08:28

just command where you want to go and your

1:08:30

your astral body Yeah, the trick the trick is

1:08:32

to not to not try and move your arms

1:08:34

or legs. You just use the mental demands Yeah,

1:08:36

well that's first After you do

1:08:38

it for a while you start to begin to feel the

1:08:40

difference between the astral body and the physical body

1:08:43

and you Can start moving the astral body but

1:08:45

at first What you try and do

1:08:47

is move and then your physical body moves and you just

1:08:49

slam right back into your body It takes

1:08:52

a while before you get hit the hang of it We

1:08:55

started doing this work and it

1:08:57

was enjoyable and we were Gaining

1:08:59

more abilities and Steve was becoming more and

1:09:02

more psychic He was already very psychic to

1:09:04

start with but then we began

1:09:06

hearing into the astral realm just in

1:09:08

the waking state They

1:09:10

call it Clara audience and

1:09:12

I found it to be very disturbing I

1:09:15

would hear something somebody speaking right behind me

1:09:17

and I would turn there be nobody there

1:09:20

and that's that sort of creeped us out

1:09:22

And certainly creeped me out and I stopped

1:09:24

doing the practices I stopped, you

1:09:26

know doing the chanting and the meditation

1:09:28

and slowly the abilities I had gained

1:09:31

sorted faded away, but these are

1:09:35

abilities inside the human It's

1:09:38

like I say, it's our human birthright. Yeah,

1:09:40

and you know I still have things happening

1:09:42

to me as an example about three

1:09:45

nights ago I got into bed and I was

1:09:47

starting to go to sleep and I hadn't gone

1:09:49

to sleep and I felt as is Somebody

1:09:51

had gotten into the bed. It felt exactly like

1:09:53

somebody got into bed next to me and It

1:09:57

wasn't a cax. We don't have any any animals and I

1:09:59

said I said, okay What do you want? I

1:10:02

knew something was there, right? So anyway, so I'm

1:10:04

just so used to this stuff So and

1:10:06

as I woke about five o'clock in the morning and

1:10:09

I was I was gonna get up and you know

1:10:11

go go go out and get some coffee and It's

1:10:15

always on the right side of my body

1:10:17

for some reason. There's this voice a very

1:10:19

very clear voice said husband

1:10:22

Right in my ear. I said my

1:10:24

Leslie never calls me husband It was a

1:10:26

very clear just like husband I

1:10:31

said, you know again, like I said these things

1:10:33

have happened to me so frequently like Many

1:10:36

times I hundreds of times I've had where

1:10:38

I'm starting to go to sleep and I'll

1:10:40

get three distinct knocks behind my head On

1:10:42

the wall just like boom boom

1:10:45

boom always in the set of three I've

1:10:48

had that many times Hundreds

1:10:50

of times and just a couple of months ago.

1:10:52

He he awakened to find a being in his

1:10:54

room a

1:10:56

large black being with yellow eyes Yep,

1:10:59

and I said what do you want of me?

1:11:01

I've been trying to get answers because I decide

1:11:03

I'm deciding now to try and confront these things

1:11:05

instead of trying like, you know Turn

1:11:07

my back on them. I said I want to

1:11:09

know what why are you trying to you know?

1:11:11

What is your reason for being here? You know,

1:11:14

why are you harassing me? You know,

1:11:16

it's it's it's unnerving

1:11:18

It's it's caused me many many sleepless nights.

1:11:20

I tell you that what did it say?

1:11:23

It didn't say anything that I can recall It

1:11:26

just was just looking but standing there and

1:11:28

I hearing it another time It was like

1:11:30

it put its put his finger on my

1:11:32

head right on my forehead like it was

1:11:34

her eyes and put pressure

1:11:36

on it It's yes, it's it's

1:11:38

strange to

1:11:40

say the least I can tell you that the

1:11:43

most fantastic experience I've had which I know

1:11:46

that these teachings like the Zen teachings

1:11:48

are Absolutely real because

1:11:51

when I was 22, I was

1:11:53

up at the Sonora house in Sonora, California That

1:11:56

my parents and I had built and

1:11:58

I was always of course I was really

1:12:00

heavily into Tai Chi and

1:12:02

I was reading Paramahansa's autobiography

1:12:04

of a yogi. And

1:12:07

I decided to, it was the day after Christmas

1:12:09

and I decided to do one of his Christmas

1:12:11

meditations and I was sleeping on my back on

1:12:14

the floor that time in my life. So I

1:12:16

found 11.30 at night, I

1:12:18

did the Christmas meditation and I went to sleep, woke

1:12:21

up about 4.45. I know it was because I

1:12:24

saw the VCR clocks at 4.45

1:12:27

and for whatever reason, because I'm not

1:12:29

a particularly religious person, I thought about

1:12:31

God's love. And I had

1:12:33

this feeling that it was as

1:12:35

if I felt God's

1:12:39

love in my head, but

1:12:41

I thought God's love in my heart and

1:12:43

I felt like this line come together in

1:12:45

my third eye chakra

1:12:48

and from like about a billion miles

1:12:50

away, this inverted pyramid of blue-white light,

1:12:53

like an inverted pyramid, it hit me

1:12:55

right in my third eye in a

1:12:58

split second and I was encased in this

1:13:00

cocoon of blue-white energy. And

1:13:02

in that nanosecond, I understood why

1:13:05

the Tibetans and why the different

1:13:07

monks and the Swamis, why they

1:13:09

sit for eight to ten hours

1:13:11

a day in a lotus

1:13:14

position with smiles on their faces because

1:13:16

they're channeling this type of

1:13:18

energy and I came across it just

1:13:21

by having one single thought that

1:13:24

was a thought about love and

1:13:27

it was miraculous. Did you see that

1:13:29

exact thing on a drawing later? Yes,

1:13:31

it was about three months later. I

1:13:33

was working with my dad and I

1:13:35

was thumbing through a Psychology

1:13:37

Today magazine looking at some of

1:13:39

the ads in the back and

1:13:42

I came across this article and

1:13:44

it showed this man laying on his back

1:13:47

on a stone tablet with

1:13:49

this inverted pyramid of multi-colored

1:13:52

layers of energy hitting him in the third

1:13:54

eye and encasing him in a

1:13:57

cocoon of energy. It says, and it said

1:13:59

you can achieve. enlightenment via

1:14:01

the Rosicrucians. I didn't

1:14:03

become exactly what had happened to him. It's

1:14:05

so weird. Before he said that, I thought

1:14:07

about the Rosicrucians because we just

1:14:10

met somebody who joined recently and

1:14:12

he was talking about

1:14:14

the first couple levels of stuff. His

1:14:16

life has just completely changed. He's practiced

1:14:18

a lot of these meditations,

1:14:20

like sort of a daily thing, a daily

1:14:22

ritual sort of meditation. Apparently,

1:14:26

it's been very, very powerful for him. I like

1:14:28

a cat. Kitty,

1:14:31

kitty. They truly

1:14:33

are. The energy is real. What

1:14:38

the Zen talk about having one pure thought.

1:14:42

Also, they talk about, like, you have to truly understand the grain

1:14:44

of sand is the graph of the

1:14:46

universe. A single grain of

1:14:48

sand is every single element that's on the

1:14:50

periodic table apart from the ones that we've

1:14:52

manufactured. So, it is a lot

1:14:54

of these teachings. They have a lot of

1:14:56

truth to them. Again,

1:14:59

a lot of it has to do with kind

1:15:01

of like how pure you are and what you're

1:15:03

doing with your life. Tai Chi is definitely one

1:15:06

of the things I would recommend for people to

1:15:09

help, number one, to calm

1:15:11

down, you know, obsessive-propulsive disorder

1:15:14

and just to keep you in good

1:15:16

shape. Do you have

1:15:18

any videos or lectures

1:15:20

you could recommend for Tai Chi, like any

1:15:23

instructions? Well,

1:15:26

I put out a series of Tai Chi tapes

1:15:28

back in the mid-80s. And there are many different...

1:15:30

well, there are... Do

1:15:36

you like Pauli Zink's work? Pauli Zink,

1:15:38

that was my monkey kung fu master

1:15:40

teacher. But as

1:15:43

far as Tai Chi, you can get some

1:15:45

of the older stuff by Chen

1:15:47

Men Ching or Marshall

1:15:50

Ho. There are

1:15:53

some good ones. I mean, you

1:15:55

want to go for... There are two

1:15:57

schools of thought. There's the short form and

1:15:59

then there's the short form. long form. So

1:16:01

the long form is really

1:16:03

better. The 108, it's called the 108

1:16:05

movements. The 21 is just

1:16:08

you really don't get the full benefit of

1:16:10

Tai Chi. It's funny that number 108 comes

1:16:13

up so often in New Marl. It's funny

1:16:15

it's in Tai Chi too. Yeah.

1:16:20

So I guess I'd like to

1:16:22

circle back to sort of your main theory.

1:16:24

The inner earth, like you think that

1:16:27

these things are doing this, they're

1:16:29

making contact not necessarily for curiosity

1:16:31

but for a new entity. Harvesting

1:16:33

a product we think. They

1:16:36

need it. Is it connected? Are they going

1:16:38

underground and are they in all these different

1:16:41

continents? Is it all connected? It's not like

1:16:43

one big, I don't think you guys think

1:16:45

it's one big inner earth with an inner

1:16:47

sun. No. No, we're not. We definitely don't

1:16:49

have a true to

1:16:51

that theory. But there are huge underground

1:16:54

hollowed out caverns that are

1:16:57

temperature controlled, lit, able to grow

1:17:00

crops with

1:17:04

thermal power. Fuel thermal,

1:17:06

water. Thank

1:17:09

you. And we do believe

1:17:11

there was more than one

1:17:13

arc sunk in all

1:17:15

over the world. We think there's some

1:17:17

in Russia. We think there's some in. Probably

1:17:20

Australia. We know there's two in Alaska. I

1:17:22

think there's

1:17:25

one under Skinwalker Ranch. I think that's

1:17:27

what's causing the phenomenon there. It's

1:17:30

at least a base or an outpost or something.

1:17:32

Something like that. We're not really completely settled

1:17:34

on what that is. Well, I'm

1:17:37

pretty settled. I saw

1:17:39

supposedly the Archuleta Mesa in

1:17:43

Dulce, New Mexico, the local

1:17:46

Hawia people. I think

1:17:49

there is how you pronounce it. They

1:17:51

are seeing like a

1:17:53

duck blind open up on the side of

1:17:55

the Mesa. All this

1:17:57

bright white light spills out of it. see

1:18:00

UFOs flying in and out of this open

1:18:03

door in the side of the mesa. And

1:18:06

this has been reported many

1:18:09

times. But one of

1:18:11

the videos I saw of Skinwalker Ranch

1:18:13

showed exactly that. The entire ridge

1:18:17

above the ranch lit

1:18:19

up bright white light like somebody had opened

1:18:21

a door with a

1:18:23

bunch of white light spilling out of it. And

1:18:26

then we saw these white UFOs

1:18:28

zip in and out of that scene.

1:18:33

And then the door just shut and the light

1:18:35

went back out. People have

1:18:37

reported similar things Mount Shasta. Yeah, it's

1:18:39

a whole opening in the side of

1:18:41

Mount Shasta. Yes. And

1:18:44

light and UFOs. The indigenous people have

1:18:46

been, they call them

1:18:50

the Star, they're star people or

1:18:53

they're star brothers. And it's

1:18:55

not unusual for them and also. And

1:18:58

you were mentioning Lemuria earlier.

1:19:00

As you know,

1:19:03

the Lemurians were supposed to be living in

1:19:05

the continent of Mu, which

1:19:08

is a low, it's

1:19:11

in the Pacific Ocean, the continent of

1:19:13

the Pacific Ocean that's now all underwater

1:19:15

except for some of the island groups

1:19:17

that are poking up out of the

1:19:19

Pacific Ocean. The Hiawatha

1:19:21

asteroid impact would certainly have,

1:19:24

I mean, it did destroy

1:19:26

that continent. And anyone who

1:19:28

lived there were

1:19:30

just had to move if they wanted to

1:19:32

live. And we

1:19:35

believe that they may have actually

1:19:37

installed themselves in Mount Shasta. It's

1:19:40

the perfect place to hide out

1:19:42

from a cataclysm. The

1:19:45

mountain is at high elevations. You don't

1:19:47

have to worry about flooding that way.

1:19:49

It's also riddled with lava tubes inside

1:19:51

of it, which would

1:19:53

make it easy to hollow

1:19:56

out cavernous areas for another.

1:20:00

underground city. Yeah, that reading that

1:20:02

chapter in your book really made me think

1:20:04

that maybe that's the cause of

1:20:06

all these anomalous areas, like people call them

1:20:08

portals and all that, but maybe that's just

1:20:10

a function of like it being a base

1:20:12

or an arc or an underground city that's

1:20:14

causing some weird magnetic anomaly.

1:20:18

I think portals are not really happening.

1:20:20

I could be wrong, of course, but

1:20:23

one thing we do know they can do is they can

1:20:26

cancel matter out long

1:20:29

enough to open a hole in a

1:20:31

mountain and pass through it.

1:20:33

And people have described how

1:20:36

a hole will open in their wall or

1:20:39

in their ceiling and they're taken that way.

1:20:42

They have the ability to a certain

1:20:44

extent, cancel matter and pass through it.

1:20:47

And that would appear to be

1:20:50

a portal. Exactly. Yeah,

1:20:52

yeah. So that's kind of what I

1:20:54

meant is not necessarily that it's a real portal, but something

1:20:56

that connected with something

1:20:58

underground that is not man-made. It's

1:21:01

not natural. It's that arc,

1:21:03

the archetype thing you were talking about. I mean,

1:21:05

ball lightning travels through matter. I mean, ball lightning

1:21:07

can travel through walls and stuff. I mean, that's

1:21:09

pretty much documented too,

1:21:11

even going back to like 1787 or so.

1:21:15

And neutrinos. Yeah. Darren,

1:21:20

do you have any questions at all? I thought some

1:21:22

stuff went through the walls like during tornadoes and stuff

1:21:24

too. Yeah. That's what I was...

1:21:27

I think that's related to the ball lightning and the

1:21:29

fests get stuck like half in a wall. And I

1:21:32

don't know if that's because of ball lightning and the

1:21:34

tornado itself, but yeah. Right. How does

1:21:36

that happen where they don't just disintegrate when it hits

1:21:38

the tree at that speed? How does it

1:21:40

actually embed three feet into a tree? It's

1:21:43

wild. Yeah. So

1:21:46

really somebody's just harnessing that

1:21:48

nature's ability there. We've

1:21:50

only been out of the caves for 13,000 years or

1:21:53

so. But

1:21:58

if you were to add... 100,000

1:22:01

years to our abilities, what would we be

1:22:03

like then? Yeah. And

1:22:05

that's what we think these people were

1:22:07

like before the flood. We think they

1:22:09

lived all over the planet. They were

1:22:11

building pyramid cities all over the

1:22:13

planet, all almost exactly

1:22:16

alike. The megalithic structures

1:22:18

too, especially Balbec, you know, there are 880

1:22:20

tons. This

1:22:22

is the trilithon. The trilithon stones

1:22:24

are ridiculous. Without crane marks or without,

1:22:27

you know, it's just lifting it 20

1:22:29

feet, you know, from just like, it's

1:22:32

ridiculous. Also too, because I

1:22:34

used to, when I was in the Navy, I

1:22:36

was a CB for six years and

1:22:38

I've been to places like Midway. I actually did a

1:22:40

tour of duty on Midway Island, which

1:22:43

is, was really kind of cool back in

1:22:45

1981. And we

1:22:47

did a lot of concrete pouring and we've done

1:22:49

a lot of concrete and cement pouring because we

1:22:51

also are stained glass artists too, kind of, we

1:22:53

were at least. And when

1:22:56

I look at the blocks at

1:22:58

Puma Punku, the

1:23:00

way that they were cut, they

1:23:03

don't look like they were cut to

1:23:05

me at all. They're so uniform. They

1:23:07

look just like a concrete block, an

1:23:09

advanced concrete block that was poured that

1:23:12

you get that triple layer bevel and

1:23:15

then it's just, they're just so

1:23:17

uniform. You can't just find material

1:23:19

like hundreds and hundreds of blocks that is

1:23:21

just exactly the same. It looks like it

1:23:24

was melted and it was formed.

1:23:26

And I think those blocks were actually formed

1:23:28

and they weren't cut. They certainly

1:23:30

were not made by the bronze age

1:23:32

tool wielding Inca people that they were

1:23:35

attributed to. That's insane. It says 12,500

1:23:37

foot elevation is way above the tree

1:23:39

line. And

1:23:42

though the big, the big orange red

1:23:46

H blocks at Puma Punku are a

1:23:48

type of sandstone. A lot

1:23:50

of the other rock there is

1:23:52

andesite and andesite is a seven

1:23:54

on the Moh scale. And

1:23:57

granite is between six and seven on the

1:23:59

Moh scale. So, andesite is as hard

1:24:01

as the hardest granite and

1:24:04

these megalithic

1:24:07

stones of 200 tons are supposed

1:24:10

to have been cut by

1:24:12

people with bronze tools. It

1:24:15

makes no common sense. You

1:24:18

can take a bronze tool and smack it on

1:24:20

andesite all day long and it's just going to

1:24:22

ruin the tool. And then you've got

1:24:24

to figure out what's the motivation for doing it. Why? Why?

1:24:28

Why is it so easy? The answer is that they

1:24:30

basically set up a camp and they said, okay, these

1:24:32

are the tools we

1:24:35

need. We're going to melt this rock

1:24:37

or we're going to liquefy it and we're going to

1:24:39

put in these molds and we're going to make either

1:24:41

a landing pad or something out of it. I almost

1:24:43

can guarantee you that if these things were not cut,

1:24:45

they were actually poured. Well

1:24:48

that's certainly possible. But what do you

1:24:50

think about those polygonal ones that really

1:24:52

fit together and they're not uniform. They're

1:24:54

all different shapes and they're kind of

1:24:56

like some of them have five sides,

1:24:58

four sides, they kind of fit all

1:25:00

together. The walls especially of Saxo-Aman are

1:25:02

that. Yeah, 200

1:25:05

ton andesite blocks that

1:25:07

are polygonal and

1:25:10

no two alike and

1:25:12

fit together so tightly that you can't slip

1:25:14

a piece of paper in between them. No

1:25:16

more than necessary but the

1:25:19

beauty of that is that when you

1:25:21

would do those polygonal shapes

1:25:25

and you basically distribute the

1:25:27

stress. So if you have

1:25:30

an earthquake, it'll

1:25:33

act as one unit. Actually,

1:25:35

it will act as even better than one

1:25:38

unit because when you

1:25:40

melt or you basically fuse

1:25:42

together, then you're distributing the

1:25:46

stress across literally thousands

1:25:49

of stress points instead of just having

1:25:51

one big rock. One big

1:25:53

rock can't distribute the stress like they

1:25:57

did at Saxo-Aman. The

1:26:00

Saksil Mon wasn't built, as you can

1:26:02

probably tell, wasn't built as a fortress

1:26:04

or something to keep out marauders. It

1:26:06

was literally built, as we've been

1:26:08

able to find, as probably like a sleuthing

1:26:11

station for gold. You

1:26:13

think it might have been a massive mining

1:26:16

operation for gold, Saksil Mon, because the walls,

1:26:19

they're only on one side of the

1:26:21

hill. So

1:26:23

they're obviously not for defense. Do

1:26:26

you think there's some measurement or some way

1:26:29

that they're using

1:26:32

some information to figure out how

1:26:34

to put all these seemingly

1:26:37

random blocks together, like for

1:26:39

this stress point reduction that you're talking

1:26:41

about? Like, do you think there's something that they're... Are

1:26:43

they matching it to nature's

1:26:46

frequency or something like that, do you think? Or

1:26:48

is there some meaning behind it? Or are they

1:26:50

just making... One thing that we

1:26:53

do know is that, granted in the Andesite,

1:26:55

do have a high amount of quartz

1:26:58

which has the piezoelectric effect, so

1:27:00

it is a conductor. So

1:27:02

just like the big, neagreid heads that

1:27:05

have been found in... They

1:27:07

were the old members. The old members. They made

1:27:09

these giant African face

1:27:11

heads. Some

1:27:14

are 50 tons. One

1:27:16

of the biggest ones. 50 tons, yeah. And they

1:27:18

actually found that the face part

1:27:20

actually has electromagnetic

1:27:22

signatures to it. They

1:27:25

wouldn't have been able to know that. High

1:27:28

piezoelectric effect, yes. So they definitely had

1:27:30

a knowledge of definitely how to manipulate

1:27:32

and use stone, and they definitely knew

1:27:35

the magnetic resistor and

1:27:37

the conducting effect of different minerals and

1:27:39

different stones. For sure, I think that

1:27:41

they had a plan as far as

1:27:43

making the best use of it. We

1:27:45

have no idea really how old those

1:27:48

socks to a mom is. It could

1:27:50

be 100,000 years old, but guess what?

1:27:53

It has no cracks in it. Yeah,

1:27:55

exactly. That's kind of what I was getting at. So before we

1:27:58

run out of time, I wanted to ask you a question. to

1:28:00

ask you guys about the modern UFO disclosure.

1:28:02

It seems like there's a lot of

1:28:05

arguing over non-human intelligences and whether it's

1:28:07

ETs or not. I mean, there's a

1:28:09

lot of different

1:28:11

theories and a lot of different distractions, I guess,

1:28:14

especially considering your theory. What do you

1:28:16

think about what's going on? Well,

1:28:19

when Luis Olizondo of ATIP released

1:28:21

the three big videos to the New

1:28:24

York Times in 2017, that

1:28:27

was a sort of a turning point

1:28:29

for the disclosure of the government's policies.

1:28:32

Before that, they just were

1:28:34

stonewalling us completely. This isn't happening.

1:28:37

It's swamp gas. It's mass hysteria.

1:28:39

This isn't real. You're all crazy. Yes,

1:28:41

I do. But

1:28:43

then Luis Olizondo released those

1:28:46

videos. And to all

1:28:48

of our stunned, shocked amazement,

1:28:52

the DOD released the statement saying, these

1:28:54

are real. They're not

1:28:56

a fake phenomenon. And they released

1:28:58

the entire video, whereas Luis Olizondo

1:29:01

only released snippets of it. And

1:29:04

they released it with a statement saying, like I

1:29:06

said, these are real. They're not. College

1:29:08

people don't know what they are, but they're real.

1:29:10

But they're pretending like they don't know what it

1:29:12

is. Oh, but we don't know what they are,

1:29:14

but they are real. This is a real phenomenon.

1:29:16

There is some, along those same

1:29:19

lines, there are

1:29:21

some really wild theories out there, even

1:29:23

from a person I won't name. But

1:29:25

you would know her name in UFO

1:29:28

circles. We

1:29:30

call, Leslie calls them, what we want

1:29:32

to hear about isms. Yeah, but there's

1:29:34

a lot of talk right now about

1:29:37

how the tall white

1:29:39

aliens come from the Pleiades. And

1:29:41

the blue ones come from Alpha

1:29:43

Centauri and all this. See, we

1:29:45

think that this is a smokescreen

1:29:50

that they're putting up because they want

1:29:52

us to keep looking up rather than

1:29:54

looking down. Yes, there's

1:29:56

this whole thing. They like to play

1:29:58

space aliens. Suppose. Basically, we

1:30:01

have for the past 20 years since 2003, we've

1:30:03

been hitching rides on four different starships

1:30:08

and we visited with the tall white aliens

1:30:10

in the Nordic's 26 different star systems. And

1:30:12

they're a part of a Federation. And we're

1:30:14

part of a Federation. And we're part of

1:30:16

it too. And we get to go along

1:30:18

for the ride. And guess what? Two

1:30:21

of the ships, two of the starships

1:30:23

just happened to be named after two

1:30:25

of the original members of Majestic 12.

1:30:28

So these aliens that are so much more advanced than

1:30:30

we are... From Alpha Centauri have for

1:30:32

some reason named their ships after

1:30:35

two Majestic 12 individuals. It's

1:30:37

just like we always love to

1:30:39

think that Captain Picard is out

1:30:41

there and Captain Kirk and things

1:30:44

like that. But it's

1:30:46

just ludicrous. Nobody would like

1:30:48

it more than I to be true. Nobody

1:30:51

would like it more than I. But to me,

1:30:54

it smacks of what we want to hearisms.

1:30:57

You know what I mean? Yeah, that is

1:30:59

what we want to hear. We want to know. We want to

1:31:01

be part of a Federation

1:31:03

and zip

1:31:06

around the galaxy with them. That would be

1:31:08

just so awesome. So that might be a little easier

1:31:10

for everybody to handle than, oh, by the way, there's

1:31:12

like a civilization that

1:31:14

broke away from you many, many thousands of years

1:31:16

ago and has been living underground

1:31:18

and watching you for this

1:31:21

long. And

1:31:23

one thing about these people, they're quite different

1:31:25

than we are, we believe. For

1:31:27

one thing, we think that they use

1:31:30

genetic modification just like another

1:31:32

tool. We

1:31:35

have qualms

1:31:37

about using genetic manipulation to

1:31:39

change ourselves or others. Some

1:31:43

of us have qualms about it. We

1:31:46

are changing that view slowly. With CRISPR. But

1:31:48

a lot of us have qualms on that

1:31:50

front. Some do. But

1:31:53

we think these people living underground

1:31:55

do not. And they need,

1:31:58

that's why we think there's multiple types. types of

1:32:01

them. Let's say they need a

1:32:04

bunch of underwater work done. They'll

1:32:06

simply produce a

1:32:09

bunch of worker reptilians, say,

1:32:12

who can breathe underwater. And it's

1:32:14

just another tool to them. Yeah.

1:32:17

Darrin, do you have any last-minute questions, Darrin,

1:32:20

before we let him go? Everything's

1:32:22

frozen. Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear

1:32:24

you, but yeah, you're frozen. Oh,

1:32:27

that's better. He just bounced. So I don't know what's

1:32:29

going on with his internet there. I

1:32:32

thought he was very still. Yeah, exactly.

1:32:38

I wish he could freeze in a

1:32:41

more awake picture, you know? He's

1:32:46

on Elon's satellite, and it seems

1:32:48

to be... Starlink. Hello?

1:32:52

Is he Starlink? Yeah. So

1:32:55

you also mentioned that it seemed like those things would

1:32:57

be good to withstand an earthquake. So do you think

1:33:00

it might be... Yes. It

1:33:02

was like straight up to some shit was

1:33:04

going down. We've got to make some shit

1:33:06

to try and hide in or to stand

1:33:08

up through whatever's coming down. Well,

1:33:11

if you can make something that will last

1:33:14

pretty much tens or not hundreds of thousands

1:33:16

of years and is easy to do, why

1:33:18

have to build it twice? I mean, our

1:33:21

skyscrapers... For

1:33:24

instance, the average life of

1:33:26

today's concrete, the average life... I'm not

1:33:28

talking about what the Romans used because

1:33:30

they used... They

1:33:33

had a better version. They had

1:33:35

a better version. So their stuff held

1:33:37

up, but our current concrete only lasts

1:33:39

at the maximum 200 years,

1:33:42

at the very maximum. So we

1:33:45

build with almost like planned obsolescence

1:33:47

where they built to last. And

1:33:50

it was easy for them. Obviously, it was easy. And

1:33:53

if you look at our book, you'll

1:33:55

read about Carlotto's work, who essentially is

1:33:57

using the...

1:34:00

cardinal points on some of the structures

1:34:02

to determine that they are not the cardinal points point

1:34:04

to where the poles used to be 12,000 years ago

1:34:06

rather than are now. Indicating

1:34:11

that some of these sites, Teotail Con,

1:34:13

for instance, is actually more than 12,000

1:34:16

years old. At least the base

1:34:19

of the

1:34:22

layout of the pyramid structures

1:34:25

were all done 12,000 years ago, whether the current buildings

1:34:29

on those structures are

1:34:32

the same as they were 12,000 years ago. I

1:34:34

wanted to add one more thing too because

1:34:36

I'm kind of an amateur geologist and one

1:34:39

thing that you learn when you study geology

1:34:41

is that when magma cools,

1:34:43

the ferrites and the magnetic

1:34:47

or the iron particles, they

1:34:49

will naturally align

1:34:51

to where the magnetic pole is

1:34:53

at that particular time. So

1:34:56

you can tell when you

1:34:59

collate that with different structures like

1:35:02

Baalbek and the Great Pyramids and

1:35:04

whatever, you

1:35:07

collate that with when

1:35:09

the lava was laid down, you

1:35:11

can see that they're pointing to

1:35:14

the magnetic north. Where the poles

1:35:16

were 50,000 years ago or 100,000

1:35:18

years ago. Baalbek and

1:35:22

Jerusalem, the Temple

1:35:24

Mount, their cardinal

1:35:26

points aligned to where the poles

1:35:28

were in the Bering Sea. I

1:35:31

think it was at the Bering Sea five, it's about like

1:35:33

over 50,000 years ago. So those foundations are possibly 50,000 years

1:35:35

old. I

1:35:41

like what Graham Norton says about it.

1:35:43

He calls it, we're a race with

1:35:45

amnesia. I know where we came from.

1:35:48

Graham Hancock. I'm

1:35:52

sorry, I got my grams

1:35:54

confused. I like his talk show,

1:35:56

Graham Norton. Sorry about that. We

1:36:00

had a guy on who was in part

1:36:02

of a European team that was doing the

1:36:05

analysis on all the ancient structures and where

1:36:07

they point to. I think

1:36:09

they looked at five different pole shifts. It seemed

1:36:11

like they all located at five different points. Yes.

1:36:14

Roughly. Yeah. Darren,

1:36:17

do you have any last comments or anything? No,

1:36:20

this has been great. Where can people find

1:36:22

your stuff? Where can they get the

1:36:25

book? The book again? Oh

1:36:27

yeah, social media. Yeah, the

1:36:29

book again is called Who They Are and

1:36:31

What They're Up To by Leslie

1:36:33

and Steven Shaw. And we're

1:36:35

on Instagram at Leslie.Shaw.Author.

1:36:39

And also that's our Facebook handle as well.

1:36:42

And the book is available on Amazon

1:36:45

and Ingram and

1:36:47

it's in different formats such as Kindle and

1:36:50

e-book also. Yes, and

1:36:52

paperback. Paperback, of course. Yeah.

1:36:55

Right there. Ron.

1:36:58

Yeah, that's great. Yeah,

1:37:01

it recommended it. It's cool. I like

1:37:03

how you put it all together. Thank

1:37:05

you so much for having us. This has been really

1:37:07

fun. Yeah, it was fun. Yeah. Thank

1:37:10

you, Darren. Thank you, Leslie. Thank you,

1:37:12

Steven. You guys have a wonderful

1:37:14

night and come back anytime.

1:37:18

All right. When we write the second book, we'll

1:37:20

like to ping you. Yeah,

1:37:22

for sure. Okay. Yeah. Thanks,

1:37:25

guys. Cheers. And

1:37:29

that was a chat with Leslie and Steven

1:37:31

Shaw. What do you think, buddy? Yeah, it

1:37:33

was good. What do you think? Yeah, I

1:37:35

liked it. I think Grimstech

1:37:37

is a bitch. I kind

1:37:39

of figured that you'd be

1:37:41

good for you because you're not really into the whole

1:37:43

ET thing. I think you're more into the inner earth

1:37:45

and you know. You're

1:37:48

an inner earth. I'm into

1:37:52

the inner earth. Physical stuff. You're

1:37:54

into the nuts and bolts. You

1:37:57

would prefer the whole phenomenon being here than

1:37:59

from. some galactic federation wouldn't

1:38:01

ya? Are you a nut

1:38:03

or a bolt? You're

1:38:08

a metro. You're a metro so you can just

1:38:10

do either. He's

1:38:14

a nut and a bolt. I

1:38:17

like the idea that it's just, you

1:38:19

know I could get into people from the moon. I

1:38:22

could get into, I guess

1:38:24

people from the inner earth. I don't know if the

1:38:26

inner earth's kinda fucked up though, right? You

1:38:28

guys live inside the earth with no sun. Well

1:38:31

yeah, exactly. That's what

1:38:33

I was gonna ask is how do they, I mean they

1:38:35

must have to, I think that's

1:38:37

why a lot of the inner earth books in the

1:38:40

late 1800s, a lot of these fiction books had an inner

1:38:42

sun, right? I mean the inner earth was supposed to have

1:38:44

its own sort of sun. So

1:38:48

how would you get all that vitamin D?

1:38:50

You know, you wouldn't have, a

1:38:54

natural way to do it. That's a supplement

1:38:57

on blood or something. Maybe that's why they need

1:38:59

all the blood from us

1:39:01

humans that are still in the Garden

1:39:04

of Eden. Some

1:39:08

people think that- You're gonna be a Christian soon, huh? Some

1:39:10

people think the Garden of Eden is

1:39:13

above, is the what's above ground, right?

1:39:15

It's like all

1:39:17

of us are above ground. That's actually the Garden of

1:39:19

Eden. Yes, right now? Yeah,

1:39:21

everything. Is it winter in the Garden of Eden? Yeah.

1:39:25

It's winter. It's wintery garden.

1:39:29

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longer anxious with time.

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No longer in my

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prime. A

1:41:23

sliver of wisdom, a taste

1:41:26

of ambrosia. No

1:41:28

perfectly fine in

1:41:30

my skin, even on a

1:41:33

rainy day. Unraveling

1:41:38

holograms. Sifting

1:41:43

through beach sand.

1:41:48

You see a flash in

1:41:50

the pan. A

1:41:55

metal detector, a

1:41:57

full-and-disfowly snogging. I'll

1:42:00

mess up again or I'll rug

1:42:03

you my humble abode Perfectly

1:42:08

fine in my skin

1:42:10

even on a rainy

1:42:12

day Is

1:42:17

time trash,

1:42:20

your computer

1:42:23

lags Causing

1:42:28

a time rift,

1:42:32

then your body goes

1:42:35

stiff Building

1:42:38

up, building up, building

1:42:41

up Freaking down

1:42:43

and building up, building

1:42:45

up, building up Freaking

1:42:48

down and building up,

1:42:51

building up, building up

1:42:53

And breaking through Look

1:42:56

a shooting star A

1:43:01

lucky streak from afar

1:43:06

Yes you're down on your luck and life is

1:43:08

hard No

1:43:12

worry I'll be your

1:43:14

bodyguard Building

1:43:17

up, building up, building

1:43:20

up Freaking down

1:43:22

and building up, building up,

1:43:24

building up Freaking

1:43:27

down and building up,

1:43:30

building up, building up

1:43:32

And breaking through Breaking

1:43:38

through Breaking

1:43:49

Breaking Breaking

1:44:31

You You

1:45:30

You.