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MK.
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hello,
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sorry for
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my studio today, the guy public
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transport and then yeah
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grouping , i was got us a
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bit like carrie
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is sufficient services is cultural
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appropriation of lists assists know well
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i'm inviting so it's cultural appropriation
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that i'm fine appropriation think flacco lie
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like exactly
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no i don't touch she doesn't she isn't that between
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the actor limits no ,
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should be fucking she does and and me
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that's not fair fair she doesn't encourage
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me i'm so either never promised
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a so on and we want to put
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in home
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city reveal the need him michael
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my special get heavier than
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have you had heaven sex
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and the windows
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the may i ask naomi what is
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your history the second the city
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yes
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sex in the city well i thinking
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about this last night and i managed
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to pin it down to
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, i was sixteen and
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my first experience
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with actually of watching that
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in my dad's living rain in jamaica
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the ninety nine he a
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it has he live
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in jamaica or neither don't visit him every
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summer and spring like for weeks
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so three week fast and
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i was brought up in a
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christian hi
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i'm like church whole
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no sex before marriage so
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when i was it dad
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and he was in bad i would
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go on to the like
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channels which were all from
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the us safe from the
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were they words broadcast the
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jamaican states sadness and
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i saw this podunk some up
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with sexes this
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margaret i guess
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this point in a once they all die
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this is not on a curriculum at my house absolute
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base say that i remember
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that was asleep and i
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was in the land and i had it
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on i'm not with my fast
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experian say yeah i was sixteen
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and what's in that i'm dying oh
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okay i've never seen when
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him talk about sex
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i think do you remember which have said
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it was no
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i don't remember the man
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said as a hobby have to tell you i
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just remember seeing the
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now made by then the king
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in the cocktail bars in the cocktail
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bar the for stand together
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with the cause may then just
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hey i'm just thinking
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i've never seen anything like this the for slow
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i love fashion always have
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love fashion and style say seeing
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carry it takes to me
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the dismiss the rice yeah
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to rise i'm i'm
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even the credit you know with the teacher
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i decide on well what
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anna you someone that then later when
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you were grown but allowed to watch all the telly liked
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then knows the saberi
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well do you have you watched the episodes
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a few times the someone who's watched his picked
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a mix how how's your relationship with
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yeah so i've i've done like the books
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that and
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watched all of them i have
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i've never gone back and we
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watch them i just you know
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what the whole thing once three what's
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the films is wow
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the per se you know i know right
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get you out of his own of the get back to
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the best two months but also
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it's wasn't just the
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i'm that i lost it was the feelings of
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sex and i have the characters because i just thought
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they have become the attack
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yeah films like they become up
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the pennant people yet they what the central
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the universe in the show cause they very
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self centered
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people but that charm
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and night we had deputy one that that was
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a pause of us that also just what does the citizens
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sex obsess about ourselves our relationship
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problems it was the sort of the in the part
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of you
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that you are on a girls' night out some cocktails
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but they were like that old the so
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yeah and all say i just think
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two hours or whatever
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gods know what what i love
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is the climate saw saw
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a subpoena silva like you'll be dead
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the map it in your flipping through a magazine and
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you're just getting the open three
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not use the see like stacie
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outfits and one episode
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swings a good point don't need
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that sort of really long
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drawn out a loan gateshead
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version of it just didn't walk
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yep actually great points it's something
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that should be taken in short bursts it's very
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the movies like easy the whole birthday cake
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yeah where we actually
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it's not have not have
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the birthday cake and that one episode it's i
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have your also been saying we've all had a slice
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of her birthday cake of the
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oh i'd
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have to you choose to have a bit more
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if you're presented eat this whole cake you
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think oh god through
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great point
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so i'm gonna very quickly i want is the quickest
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a quick recap on this one yes because
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I want to get into it with you. So
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Carrie decides
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it's time to go on a
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date again because she's
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writing a a It's very
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sad. many yes ah
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and the audience her publisher
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says will want glimmer of hope so she tries to
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go out on the states the dates
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goes horribly wrong harvey right horribly
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wrong
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said eight as a glass
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and really and lay calls
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him later for us
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the eight see at her date or both
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widow with the was and ah
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so they end up having to us to drink and nothing
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as as she thinks i'm not the be able to dice again
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i am ah meanwhile
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charlotte's
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ah has a falling out over
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tennis and apologies with her husband ah
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miranda tries to reignite the sex
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life with her husband had fails and
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goes back to say yes and
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the other characters gets characters tiny
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little looking so that's so that's the top
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line less gets down
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to it up naomi can i
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ask
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the because you run the
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brilliance everyday races macaques your
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sister and your say writing a book yeah
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but everyday racism how are
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you feeling about
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the how to reservation
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ah the that asian or hispanic
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it too in the show
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he was gonna ask me before last
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movie i would have said
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it's all on
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horribly wrong the know
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for a key that facts in
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the city has lacked the
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t and hands of right we
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know that the writers have
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come out and said you know we need
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to do better i think cynthia nixon
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said and that she wouldn't
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do the rebate and last
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sorting things out in terms of representation
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did she
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the as she said and something
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like to go back without a change
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i'm in diversity for
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cyclists are lying there from
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she ran for governor she's a precise percent
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vs bar and they have a
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diverse writers' room there
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are however i think the food last
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movie just
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the because i feel like last night set they
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have him with the feds a game changer for me
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to okay guy hey
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well as if they have just people
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are very taken
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a step that he didn't
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fill ten he when he didn't feel
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very authentic i am i think
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this is one of the mistakes of the knowledge
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when people try and he
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knows or not using quite work
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diversify things and
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then kind of run around fine
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people fit people man and
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by yeah i take was danny and
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actually behind the scenes
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and may be the writing
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on the story line so he
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didn't feel like they'd thought
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hit three i think you know
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what's happening before and we it's sad
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actually they started this
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whole series in the wrong
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in fact i the day it's hard to say
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that last night she does than the fast at to say
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i said exactly the same
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thing i cannot believe they are me we
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are wrong because we caught up in margate
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the as trusting about this is friends in the in
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a bar us and we'd sit there
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with this is ah kosmos
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made a mess it took me about it we didn't
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really have cosmos day
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we might have had a listen to fair because
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, was that we had a lump sum judge best spots
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at the need a blind for a sissy illicit
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five sissy illicit sick every saturday with
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the utmost we will it from and of the
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hydrogen see it as as as as
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it was a hobby the blight written sex with it
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it's
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what are tickets in south of here are
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really don't understand don't understand i've
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listened to
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since we spoke of listen to this the right
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as rain podcast which he helped me
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understand
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little bit about what they're doing okay you're like
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a footage you know dose and he does a brilliant sex
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the city yeah top podcast games
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so i got to thinking she fantastic i
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was d aiming ha
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because listening to her podcast about sex city
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i actually paused it to go i'm so
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sorry to interrupt you
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i feel like i need to be says i met my
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father , i met this
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i met
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two and i need to set as put on
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the she said she's deliberately avoided the righteous
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or input costs she's like caught
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need a companion
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not james joyce yes it can't
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meet a companion book like if it's not lansing
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as atlantic nevada las vegas
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farts they were talking to kelly golf
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the
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right as rain podcast she's one of
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the writers and she's black woman as she
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said she was argument another black writer the robes
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about
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the scene where miranda gets a several
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tangled up apologizing to the professor about
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her hair says to me
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that
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that and a few other may with was so
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clunky i'm not saying
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that it does seem as he then
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wrong to have in because that
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and ten you know like a lot of people are said
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to me oh you know
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it was so over the top it with sex
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and was like them actually the
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compliments do i have my hair braided and
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like city with asked all the time can
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i touch your haven't all of a kind of thing
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so that and if not the that
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so unrealistic but
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, did feel like that
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and proceed to teach police they were
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just sign place thing i've
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read things that they had kind of learn
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and right i'm
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just putting it all in for one
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moment making it would like
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illuminating at oversight
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, were twenty two tabby body and sense
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and i found it really awkward and clingy
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to up there was no nuance nice subtlety
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in it the whole i'm a gay and it felt
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media hard to for miranda as
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well and to
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be so sturgeon
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and and not you know be sensitive
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to something i just yeah i just
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didn't boy has passed
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then i totally agree
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and i felt a little bit better about
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it when i heard the right for saying
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they could see was trying to parity
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experience proceed has and
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can i was seeing this is such a what showed
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white people censoring themselves and like
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any those advice as but it felt like michael patrick
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king going i've made this mistake
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again funny and when i saw that
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was a black russia had fought for and another black
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rock
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the perimeters agreed with the others lot yeah
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people are not a monolithic great exactly
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she could see was i think she was basically parenting
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people are going this is how i live
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the a white person she wasn't saying anything sense
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of see what she was trying say it's on the website
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you got has saved so i don't recognize
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you with braids yeah that's what he meant
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but then she couldn't just say that and goes
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on up up up up up in a she had to like over
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apologize to cease i think she's parenting
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what what people are doing right now yes
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and it does happen so
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it's not that i can say it's be realized
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that experience i
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just felt like there was
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there was in the exercise
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the where it it
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with like people were overcompensating
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all the time for the not all
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the an exploration of of race
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and representation and
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incidence in the past
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the second in meetings and trying
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to clinton right through it oh what's
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that right to i am monday
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and it just it it doesn't mean that
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the kids out of the sexes the confessional booth
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didn't that it did it was like let's get all
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of this out in the first three episodes
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i didn't know that were addressing the issue
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is self lanceolate yeah
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it is so distant land for a while
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felt very awkward to watch it all
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i i'm so interested
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to hear your reason
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for a while do you think
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they should have been episodes i'm i'm happy sorts
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of this episode say that eighth
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inning credit at the wind
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dies
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and i made the mistake because i was lucky
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enough pick says
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i'm going to war at all done
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, sad to say
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that would dissipate don't get
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to that doesn't like is call bull company
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i hope size hotel now in my day
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very evident the green screen
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in are you but in my hands on like season
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on the street the
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filming and it ruins it for me anyway
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i wouldn't say that i can see much behind to see
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some up have we seen only outlet for the science
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and we seen them in a way that
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they've gotten back right to say like a patch
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or on instagram of you know as in
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the
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but i might actually some we want to make her a
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if i liked sunscreen
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i just wish we didn't it ruins the
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mom sake of yeah although i i
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kind of read that spot say is a stunning
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credits and me he would just
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incredible and it just sent
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me back to why
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i love that he knows the last top
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the flights i once had to do you have monologues
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i was waiting for has to
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start and speaking in the
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city that out loud i really
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wish they would cause it used to link the thing together
15:47
with ways so if it
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was like again tonight was saying this
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iran should listen to sort of thinking
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i'm that when
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like it would have to fling to cause we got this tiny
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snippet for example of noise
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i'm have been we had story line about
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not being able to get pregnant so short
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yeah that was not really worth having
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it wasn't a story line but is that will
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lead by meanwhile
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on the other side of town you know yet
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ah martin i was also bump against someone
16:15
or something like that and it would
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just make me go i can see how these
16:19
things link us exactly
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say it's as if it's a bit says that
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this the opening tip me back
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the and then of the seaside
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getting back into a bright king i
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like that and then
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think one of the iconic
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moments to me was when she went on should
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stay he
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was wearing the blue
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dress the one show that diane
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address i think it's cold and
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i was like right then
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hurry hurry is back
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this is what we want to say we
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want to see have a getting
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back him to lie hi
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ben hurry to me and
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that's why i think we should have started
17:08
the whole series here
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the regular paycheck when
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you know about the big family asks his exact
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same tier two sides
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to got have new friendship grades
17:20
we don't need to seal the awkward interactions
17:23
of how they now suddenly got
17:26
an email black and brown friends
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in their life lessons have that
17:30
to read these pens you
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know like
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that's where i feel as if he agrees and
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ten
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the say yeah i'm i love to see
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where they were in the ball
17:43
fema will pass on and
17:45
they were just too tempting again together
17:49
did you think i owe me that fourth chair
17:51
is the looks like being auditions cousin
17:54
what was it wasn't that was in the chess
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and she's going you know if you've got a mandate
17:59
you gotta say to
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the next one that he is is anthony
18:03
is on the fourth chair going well
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i gave i gave to look through yeah what's up
18:08
as seems like every monday night
18:10
sky rights as the phone
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the focus is ,
18:14
chance but it's of like could see the sound
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that would say something samantha would say yeah
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yeah say know how they get around the
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kids and that you know they're
18:24
only gonna have to three of them which you
18:26
don't want you want fresh
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blood and i think they and
18:31
i to mix up i'm glad
18:34
that they didn't hurt the sat
18:36
at nicole park his character in in
18:38
not seem to she had she came
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out the c d c and
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and said about will be obese that she got
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when
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it was set the she was gonna be in the shade because
18:49
when they would be so of adding
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images i think of on instagram
18:53
fast of the four of them together
18:56
people saw that see was replacing
18:59
samantha
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and she was my minute know that's not
19:02
what's happened often see now we know that character is
19:04
nothing like some and ah
19:07
but even if she were why abuse ah
19:09
an incredible actress why go
19:12
on twitter and be and be means of people
19:13
that would get like protect his
19:16
you know how
19:17
we haven't talked to the producer though i
19:19
was heck it had some oil anyone's gonna
19:21
take a job we all need jobs for god's sake
19:24
she's
19:25
probably the most peaceful one of the world i think
19:27
lt totally i'm going to be
19:29
the if his confession people might really
19:31
me the only thing
19:34
she's feeling the size in
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terms of has style
19:38
the interesting
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i know you mean that one cells the
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she will for york's in this week what
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a man i'm max see on
19:48
screen and see just feels
19:50
the mailman on my career right
19:53
thing
19:54
the outfits throwing big ready in the risk
19:56
murren seed largest the
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just got something about us the sign is
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spot on with her i
20:03
know that they all have conversations with
20:06
the brilliant people who do the wardrobe about
20:09
what they feel is right for that character
20:11
and yeah get that they
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are nailing it up so yeah yeah she
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asked a quality hasn't she
20:17
you've got quality i didn't quite by
20:19
that she wouldn't that he's a microphone is an option
20:24
we'll see we'll say given us
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husband wife team up on stage both
20:28
for a charming first for cosmetic both very we
20:31
see them at dinner parties like coated
20:33
caught what they do
20:35
a son oaks and i didn't get that i thought
20:37
that was feeling like they were clutching
20:39
at straws that thought how they to
20:41
create this argument of his
20:43
prime money around comet is so i'd
20:45
rather have the topic each other with
20:47
jokes and being you
20:49
know who's better at the orcs and
20:51
rather than have them both be he
20:54
was very dull and a problem talking through
20:56
it i think that might have been to give
20:58
credibility to the idea that nobody bid on carry
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that the whole looks it was a bit yeah
21:03
the to be a bit underwhelming
21:05
yeah no one was really bidding on march
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two that was a great moment the most yeah
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i sing moment air force your up on
21:12
stage
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no no no no no no
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no no no no no no no
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don't like a really sex and city by but really
21:21
probably while leading that's every
21:23
because that's what it has always been very
21:25
good that i mean of the see i've got my criticisms
21:27
of the sky box they
21:30
were always very good at being able t
21:32
v show with the humiliation
21:35
learning a trade say obviously
21:38
you can be funny and then
21:40
and you can be stylish and you can
21:42
have lots of thing but you
21:44
can still have these moments
21:47
and like one of my favorite episodes
21:50
is and the real me when
21:53
having a full days are on the catwalk
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oh yeah yeah
22:00
the that full house
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and i mean she looks incredible
22:06
great character and more
22:08
quit chinese characters the design
22:10
of cb incredibly
22:13
funny and that have to say i think they should have bought
22:15
have
22:15
actually to who has a more reprise
22:18
the role i mean again that would
22:20
have said authentic the an
22:23
they'll see looks incredible
22:27
having this big moment that rule that cheering
22:30
her on and then she stumbles
22:32
and i think his hands and
22:35
some said says
22:37
right hell yeah fashion road kill
22:39
us in right
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well i'm , klum accept
22:42
save her she
22:45
picks herself back up and she says
22:47
for you day in a new i thought she'd
22:50
the fit and when things
22:51
the wrong he have to pick yourself up and will and
22:53
i i love that name and and i think
22:56
that foot sex and the sea the radio
22:58
they die until last night it done
23:01
this is why i think it was an iconic have to say
23:03
it was because they did that they
23:05
had it all so have the fashion
23:08
that have to drink still have the comedy
23:11
the have that the bad day
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that it is zoe yeah
23:15
that the joy the bad take that that all of us
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can i something you
23:20
may i may i think what they've done
23:22
here is this
23:23
start with it's so common calais
23:26
so much exposition is is that
23:28
when my put on a source of
23:30
prissy okay lower
23:33
average old six the city episode
23:36
we've not gone it's iconic because
23:39
we're hiring it's what's come before the actually
23:41
maybe the doing something clicked flat the me
23:44
the gate of nothing we wanted it was
23:46
all
23:46
hi did we came for the the dresses
23:49
in the frog for the sexcapades and what we
23:51
got with morning when when
23:53
yeah and
23:55
general like really like world now
23:57
we're having hip hop race yes of said off were doing
24:00
the i and why is this
24:02
is
24:02
this is not where we did this is that i know
24:05
synthetic no limited the keep rubbing
24:07
the he was just so so
24:10
like cook going on clunky podcast
24:12
said like this like this is just nothing that i
24:14
know yeah like the making black
24:16
women schools i'm in it erases
24:18
of us have this is just what is this year
24:21
now
24:22
we had to fun day we've had
24:25
some cocktails with have the wisecracks
24:27
they would have now we're like oh this
24:29
is iconic yeah and i think
24:31
it actually done himself a favor to get a second season
24:34
because if they save themselves the last couple of episodes
24:36
people that are now we want to see terry they were finally
24:38
that take this away yes
24:41
yes am i think that they set
24:43
up well said being able to
24:45
days another season
24:47
after this although i would argue
24:50
that well as as a thing
24:52
would have drawn attention
24:55
everybody you know it was a bit like when the is
24:57
album came out you just
24:59
couldn't open means said people
25:01
talking about anticipating yeah
25:03
the so i think we'll ever they
25:05
would have come out with the the
25:07
christian while yeah i'm well i'm
25:09
at criticism
25:11
i need any plan we'll carry on a why
25:13
said yeah ah hundred is that we're all
25:15
we're all watching it even every week where
25:17
we go
25:18
but this is upset for thirty i'll
25:20
give it another go exactly and
25:22
i have the sas nine i text
25:24
and some of my
25:25
oh friends have because these what's
25:27
it to catherine i set of this
25:29
is awful amazingly
25:32
there are you gonna keep watching and i was
25:34
like oh yeah
25:37
of course she says it's a scientific
25:39
they might have some the says it's a strange
25:42
old favor because
25:44
we thought yeah this yeah this we want says who smokes
25:46
or someplace he has an elevated season
25:49
yeah so now we're like oh yeah
25:51
this is what was it but i genuinely creepy
25:54
i just don't know whether didn't start with two
25:56
years on sees this it's pigs
25:58
grave was she discussed the assets
26:00
yeah she's the i'm ready to move
26:02
on and we see her go at nasa state run
26:05
to see the parents saying yeah
26:07
they saying women a non binary people
26:09
at our added i don't know why they didn't tip day where
26:11
they didn't we all will be else can
26:13
i ask you about some moments i'm
26:16
if you would think on a i mean
26:18
we were friends and i said to
26:20
you know at some point you'll be ready to date and be like
26:22
i'm really not yet and i'm not even talking about
26:24
it now we know i'm i'm
26:26
grieving
26:28
then he said i got a gotten a date
26:30
because i'm writing this thing and you know
26:33
i needed to be authentic
26:34
and i went funnily enough
26:36
last winter i
26:39
put you on a bunch of facing
26:41
out and
26:43
you've already read out there people
26:45
are swiping on the a people other people
26:47
think you are you got a public profile naomi
26:50
people know you as the everyday racism
26:52
person they already
26:55
think you've been dating
26:56
when her because you're a bunch of apps
26:59
what's your response be and what would that do to
27:01
our friendship can i ask yes
27:04
when seem as said thought i would
27:06
fly no
27:09
i would know be impressed i
27:11
would not be happy about that obviously
27:15
her intention are
27:17
you know
27:20
the some crazy or father
27:23
as far as we know we've learnt for the is that
27:25
pensions his nose know if it
27:27
if name is asked exact
27:29
source of like response
27:32
to that like that is
27:35
sort of identity theft yeah you
27:37
cannot put someone else on a date him subsidy
27:39
laser to your friend right we're doing it
27:41
now i'm taking a phone and they're they're
27:43
they're laughing along the dakota oh god
27:46
adults but right would take you pick which
27:48
picked city like and you're sort of being
27:50
to jolts yeah but they're
27:52
aware of it's yeah or sleep
27:54
aid i'm going to put your some opposite of gonna see
27:56
how you go and you're not going get to look until i've
27:59
and they go
28:00
fine whatever set up that's one thing
28:02
is gonna put you on the that is miss and yeah i think
28:04
that friendship is actually over yeah i'm
28:06
also sorry wasn't afraid
28:09
to and consent
28:11
see that ha you know
28:13
in the episode last cent
28:15
raise the clamp it's guess you break the picture
28:17
and that this that felt like
28:20
an awkward so
28:22
it's surprising that she was to fight
28:24
the fight text i think i think way it
28:26
was more just made the story
28:28
and thanks we quickly
28:31
date to find your date but we
28:33
haven't got time to sit haven't do
28:35
your a your tinder profile
28:38
so a we quickly me
28:40
this story line on it while
28:42
am i think it was the game that samantha role
28:44
of i mean tr yeah i
28:46
will pr you are you going on and scroll
28:49
i'm kind of makes you a fabulous profile
28:51
but he could have some it this way okay
28:54
you've been saying this to me for a week now though
28:58
she said isn't there someone that can just do this
29:00
for you yes and right
29:03
you said this to me last night
29:04
on the phone and authority i
29:07
can't find can't scene where she was
29:09
on the bed she messaged
29:11
pizza
29:13
oh she flights the peter they
29:15
wanted to do the i'm an estate agent thing yet
29:17
or and so i've listed you like a house
29:19
cause that studies a classic sex in the city metaphor
29:22
for them that is it's all it's obvious
29:24
it's up to find that the joke is because
29:26
i can see some saying el pr your
29:28
love life yes on a few books
29:30
i'm so i got the joke it
29:32
just felt very creepy sierra new
29:35
friends as well as that was charlotte okay
29:38
i've done it for you i'm i okay right i've known
29:40
you since i was twelve you you
29:42
know me well enough to know that i'm not to be angry
29:44
about this the one
29:46
are brand new for she state agents
29:50
state she for agents
29:52
new are for brand you
29:58
know that said
30:00
be more establish were less
30:02
stress enough hours
30:05
in a madman for money for money of my best
30:07
friends from denied yada denied yada
30:09
in and out of know this site allah see
30:11
mercies said the the mean i got
30:13
we could have made friends in the last
30:16
five years so yeah
30:18
unbelievable a bit of time
30:20
lapses time also loved
30:23
and it really reminds me of the awesomely
30:25
following year
30:27
when fig leaves town and it's the seasons
30:29
change and we started with
30:31
your siblings the then he wrote with the
30:33
gun what's your the with them this the snow
30:35
and the yeah a song is all about spring and we see the
30:38
sun belt lovely yeah
30:40
miranda says i said
30:43
say attack three months ago not really
30:48
the part where are you talking about three months ago stuff
30:50
like doesn't matter either way they just thought
30:53
they just thought like it's too long to say
30:56
six months or yeah but a slight bad day
30:58
every three strains
31:00
oh feet the whole thing about oh
31:03
they didn't see that may well
31:06
even among seen your methods
31:08
like all of that isn't the such as
31:10
felt like a with theft is a bit thousand
31:12
key
31:13
such true you can see cause i think it's
31:15
like they're on instagram up by yeah
31:17
they have a big following and of cool
31:20
people miss messages but you know when
31:22
some it says scene when some
31:24
senior as it's just sucked
31:26
then i will the scope is
31:28
left me on read i
31:31
would have had some kind of about what would have
31:33
been hour a day and it would have been some kind of read
31:36
around or something or something at the auction would have been
31:38
something read i don't know i haven't thought through clearly
31:41
excessive but it's not quite a bit smarter
31:43
patrick take if you listening and i'm sure you all submit
31:45
for bit of the that in the room to have ready for
31:47
you that could that i'm not a problem
31:50
then it is although
31:52
i just because by if
31:55
somebody doesn't dmg
31:57
the two sports up that
32:00
i don't know if you've had hooked up with
32:02
somebody yeah man you think would you like
32:04
to hang out again
32:06
i can see miranda's yeah
32:09
yeah
32:10
the know as somebody who it is
32:12
true you do with such with you in may
32:15
yeah and i said oh i'm
32:17
going to be margate next week your rounds
32:20
and you
32:22
i'll just say oh did you see my message
32:24
yeah that's why we hooked up lost
32:27
almost and margate and then you left me on
32:29
read or be like oh yeah setting
32:31
out it's ran miami's recursive
32:36
they didn't enjoy that
32:37
he's gonna cross the boulevard in margate
32:40
to avoid me as she
32:42
no more ginger beer for me
32:45
ginger beer that ginger beer by the way it
32:47
is
32:48
very much an innuendo between
32:50
us it
32:53
is now but
32:58
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now can i say what
33:57
did you think of moran
34:00
the trying to replicate
34:02
the i really hate this work but the fingering
34:04
in the killer know i know city
34:06
say you know ha
34:07
in harry's kitchen she trusted with stephen
34:10
her own kitchen
34:11
and add this element of surprise yeah
34:13
the epicenter bit of say to the has summoned government
34:15
come home early cause that replicates
34:18
carry being in the next room says he has set
34:20
up all the same pieces on the chessboard
34:22
yeah
34:24
weird with the sun but okay yeah we'll
34:26
announce six episode will allow it
34:29
did you feel about that are
34:31
easy sell to steve but
34:34
you know they'll to stave mean
34:36
, really felt an army i'll admit
34:39
fact last six situation
34:41
i mean i started saying not face
34:43
was get get , yards
34:46
cause him to cause him not
34:49
that far were in
34:51
my head i played something now
34:53
as scenario have
34:56
gone home to top this scenario
34:58
through whatever notebook the
35:00
response the i thought i did it again
35:03
and been taken out the past then
35:05
they have no idea what idea
35:07
was expecting so i
35:09
just fell steve
35:12
in that moment how
35:16
he did want to have some intimacy
35:19
with her so i dislike
35:21
a few feet one this too
35:23
bad and you wanted to wear the
35:26
in color theme your relationship i
35:29
get to the bathroom light some candles
35:31
like traverse the moments that the
35:33
point is that no that's not
35:35
what miranda actually one
35:38
i think she was this quickly trying to say
35:40
that she had yes exactly because
35:42
or not you know when he killed it though to be fair
35:44
to her he killed
35:47
that firstly that said it would leap ah
35:49
yes but secondly if
35:51
you are gonna go there just go
35:54
like have some like high status
35:56
does about ago way there like
35:58
met her excited by like the you know
36:01
the i'd say the word labour second i
36:03
don't say a was your guessing
36:06
the loo
36:07
i put the tops back on these parts because otherwise
36:09
it's gonna smell it the they are like out and i
36:11
after september slick yeah it
36:13
just on one leave and
36:15
smell are not allowed and
36:18
any man in a fix this i
36:21
need you know that because women already know it
36:24
i bet it as a digital labour rain
36:27
point as wow of
36:29
a fool and into that trap okay
36:33
like the math stay no
36:37
some men any more the
36:40
and i think that laboring and little
36:42
that by just smell of desserts again
36:44
as useless have desert which is there now they say what
36:46
they're doing the time yeah spot
36:49
i like desserts i mean city
36:52
of really aesthetic thing on the day the
36:54
other nine plaza had like lots of
36:56
ice creams is pope hang
36:58
them
37:00
sex is nice but have you tried several
37:03
yes i skipped
37:04
those are now yeah i like
37:06
it she , so angry with see
37:08
for cheating on her and as she's making him
37:11
on pronounce to him replicates
37:14
yeah the sea sick scenarios
37:16
this is never going to tell him because thoughts had a mouse
37:18
thought that's what happened was
37:20
is maybe she will i
37:22
had sex with someone and a kid
37:25
soon as i think of me and
37:28
he's gonna go said that thing you try to make me
37:30
day yeah
37:32
hide a moral changed so much for
37:34
because there are people that are like ah
37:36
six the any fox and okay fine
37:39
you know we
37:40
the other way that wednesday cheated on a six long
37:42
time so there are people who go
37:44
that's not great but okay we'll take it from
37:47
yeah and are people that honey
37:49
said partner like she did with a was no
37:51
understanding at he had have sex
37:52
long time he confessed straight away he felt terrible
37:54
there was no heat she was just the with like get to
37:57
her now how is she the same
37:59
person as doing this he felt no guilt she
38:01
never said
38:02
anything about the knife that's true
38:05
says never seen any discussion about
38:07
how this could hurt steve
38:10
ah and and you know
38:12
how they gonna uprights there and
38:15
what did what the outcome could be
38:17
you know i'm i'm not sure
38:19
how this is gonna play out i sing
38:21
miranda will confess to stave
38:24
and i think that they probably will the
38:26
land yeah cause she clearly
38:28
needs to be free for for
38:29
the key to go out and do
38:31
, the queer a fabulous nurse
38:34
which is weekend what we want to
38:36
stay there for there so i don't need to see steve
38:39
humiliated like this actually i'd rather
38:41
see him having a fabulous ah but the gulf
38:43
the bear to anyone yeah absolutely
38:46
i'm how did you feel about carry say
38:47
the pizza when she goes a and he
38:50
immediately says
38:51
i'm a with i'd say you and his wife died
38:53
in a very sad way and then
38:56
let's have some drinks and that and that caught
38:58
to them really lol saying followed
39:01
by the va missing did you
39:02
joy that did you wind up for
39:05
, was very successful some people i'm actually get
39:07
i was like fall
39:10
and that's what i mean about the moon
39:12
this show is
39:14
no going to be the most
39:17
profound if so is
39:19
he died i like cats opposite
39:21
effect that i don't need
39:24
from the so i don't need
39:26
that kind of thing
39:29
handy pay and say
39:31
send me a quick have
39:33
a quite nice i like it
39:36
i just i want forty minute okay
39:40
smart such a smart card such a
39:42
funny smart cause the zig oh god
39:45
this is gonna be the date from hell on
39:47
and it reminded me of ha
39:50
crack the state for she went on a date with burden
39:53
the man
39:54
practice state and the guy's gonna die in his eye
39:56
and and as a fly or birds or something the all
39:58
they're horribly wrong i don't
40:00
write with that she's having a little practice date
40:03
she's just gonna go out and try
40:05
it says you could say of the book yeah now i'm stacey get
40:07
away as blip of hope and then
40:10
we caught from oh this is going to do was take the
40:12
well with a gonna talk about tragedy to
40:15
let's have some drinks and they have somebody
40:17
drink they're having an amazing time they for
40:20
out of the boss
40:21
jericho crimes of that's a wonderful when you get
40:23
to a place like yeah you're really crying with
40:25
love yes doubled over us
40:27
but he's
40:28
so much he vomit and and that makes
40:30
her father which is the can't i can't happen
40:33
that's i believe it and then it's just oh
40:35
my god
40:36
can never speak of this again yeah and
40:38
so when he turns up at the school have we
40:40
done he's a teacher and he's of is he
40:42
a teacher this fancy school and can
40:44
what teacher can afford a one thousand i
40:47
know they aren't state but
40:49
he bids guess he's paid well
40:50
francisco and she
40:53
thinks you know what we did have did have time
40:55
we have got this in common he's someone at least
40:58
understands what's like to be without
41:00
why not got again and that's a glimmer of hope
41:02
that i love that that felt so sex the
41:04
city they said it was lovely
41:07
it was such a nice name and
41:09
and i love the way that they engage
41:11
the show with the united
41:14
and he knew that she was writing about this
41:17
glimmer of hi i'm he just seems
41:19
like a nice guy he's not gonna
41:21
like like the world up thought
41:24
he was just a good start
41:26
day and it did exist it did
41:28
feel like sex and the city utah
41:31
the hundreds that like he state of the week
41:33
that he's your guest star dates he's
41:35
not the to hang around he's not be
41:37
though burger or the russian or eight
41:40
and but he's i don't feel his lungs
41:42
for this
41:43
this series but he's just
41:45
that guy who she
41:48
is that at that moment exactly
41:52
exactly
41:53
the i mean i always find
41:55
that tropez oh i'm
41:57
not there be able to write the books now because
41:59
the didn't go well i find like
42:01
you're a bright some makes it all right
42:03
if you're like us ten ways to lose a guy
42:05
he that he will yes and kate hudson
42:08
the early on full for math mcconnell yeah like
42:10
i've gotta keep writing the article on like it's
42:12
above feed list yet fire out
42:14
in half the magma pedal it
42:16
i i really like you would
42:18
no wonder why fact checker gods
42:21
like not have to keep your get the most
42:23
erotic way like way
42:25
like a personality disorder her every
42:28
time of a different sense so that
42:30
i can write is pretty article says women's
42:32
magazine of like no pretty would do that
42:35
and it felt a bit like that oh well now my
42:37
book will never come out for the concept that could have had
42:39
to like know you went on a date right
42:42
spine i've joined yeah like
42:44
you know
42:44
political whereas i know i'm will
42:47
make up a great day you're right it's got
42:49
sexist but yeah i
42:51
love that moment where she's
42:53
the docks and after the absolute worst
42:56
thing that could possibly happen to you and
42:58
i love says that says comic moments like somebody
43:00
looking like they were bidding and then going now we've got
43:02
us
43:03
like a here i know i have a good
43:05
read on his self oh my god he sings
43:07
saw allah and and me in the audience
43:10
and to flicking moved to find a
43:12
sign up fitting to skip to speed on
43:14
your fans god's sake salazar
43:17
it sounded like suspense
43:19
and a and of
43:21
it was said yes early what was have retained hurry
43:24
if hobby got any lines at the and
43:26
ness of speaking of hi
43:29
what did you think of hurry and
43:31
ah charlotte's
43:33
hannah fast apology such months blading
43:36
storyline only some not very odd
43:39
had me didn't really say
43:41
emmy last i saw that
43:43
may be they were using yes he
43:46
wasn't doing the same where
43:48
they're comparing all the time
43:51
corona husband and and
43:54
soul and hurry and that's irritating
43:57
me irritating this with that one
43:59
of the one flying so i said
44:02
from previous have to say it's was
44:04
when and me sad at the concert
44:07
can i got to relax charlotte
44:09
yeah yeah yeah is that is yes yes
44:12
i was just like i'd i don't
44:14
know but why you're doing that we
44:17
don't have , a replica
44:19
of charlotte charlotte series
44:21
of women in have a bright you
44:23
know the answer is fabulous
44:26
they just let had these ah
44:28
these they did comparison
44:30
thing between them i'm not really sure
44:32
went off going it felt like
44:34
it came as a just i know what they're doing
44:37
was cell and harvey hair i like the
44:39
story line and then
44:41
navigate ten the
44:44
you know that kind of understanding
44:46
and how how they can at least speed
44:49
s and as parents
44:51
i wish that they would do a bit more
44:53
on lily i think that's a whole
44:57
the story that that they're
44:59
ignoring you know this whole about well
45:01
we want to diversify
45:03
relax leave goal maybe that
45:05
susana adopted from china she's
45:07
part of this story and
45:09
he's not really develop to anything that
45:12
many funny how to not the only be line
45:14
was lily saying i'm not a hyphen
45:16
about this
45:17
what i know how i said about it really says to her
45:20
mother you rescued me and then charlotte
45:22
now you rescued late yeah
45:25
maybe some adopt a child said that somewhere but
45:28
speaking hockey they are to bang
45:30
they were not white savior strong
45:32
yeah you might save it almost like oh my god and
45:34
all say i think they're playing into
45:36
this will model minority
45:39
he now with lenny
45:41
she's like that you know the
45:43
plastic students that
45:45
the piano put say all
45:48
of this kind of stuff going on the
45:51
the night i think actually
45:53
that will be a looking
45:55
at nearly
45:56
brock i'd like to see a little bit
45:58
more and fan
46:00
rather than this thing of like all when
46:02
now comparing saul and
46:04
hurry the leaker and a husband
46:07
like i'd the i don't know i can't really
46:09
see whether it's getting i was trying to look
46:11
for links to old episodes
46:13
twelve sex whatever shattering on a vote
46:15
the whatever i'm sure half the time
46:17
they're not doing that i'm just saying
46:20
to provide any like i was like ourselves realize
46:22
i could do it with friends or thanks
46:24
someone if they could the beeping of the dishwasher last
46:26
week reminded me of see believe
46:28
they had to be paying all night yes
46:30
saw as like i could actually a keep
46:32
this to friends could remember chandler and
46:34
monica play tennis
46:37
get very competitive with ,
46:39
boss and his wife that yeah it's doubles
46:41
was like i reckon i could correlate so
46:43
much to friends is so much to like
46:45
it appeared susie as a more game
46:47
of thrones product is that he said
46:50
it's like the bible it's like you could find anything up
46:52
but it up but me
46:55
of charlotte are playing tennis
46:57
with tray yeah it's a step
46:59
with that very grand you know
47:01
upstate new york's ah was
47:03
be feel yeah i'm
47:06
and ah spray when
47:08
he gets angry that he's not
47:10
able to perform in bed
47:12
with her he's and she kisses the god
47:14
that he doesn't he's playing tennis
47:16
the boxer shorts and no shirt and
47:19
she goes up to
47:20
that harnesses sort of had to be the case and
47:22
before yeah a proper with her husband
47:25
like thought oh i've seen as
47:27
if it's probably don't really address
47:29
of button of what i did
47:31
the i know exactly what second i agree with you what
47:33
i did like about it was ourselves
47:36
this was a little piece of slice of maternity
47:39
around had to sign women apologize
47:41
all time we our prices at not present
47:44
your the tennis court you told me to get in there and be
47:46
and that one of them
47:47
the habits as you might fall over i'm
47:50
not punish us into your about splayed
47:52
out and i was like others
47:53
the flight it felt to me like us
47:55
more appropriate like to touch
47:58
though
48:00
reading frontman contemporary index
48:02
the system that was that was a great
48:04
line from charlotte when she said
48:06
that the i apologize all
48:08
day so i'm not gonna do it to you
48:11
i did really like thousand i'm doing i would
48:13
have it the pedophilia place where if
48:15
i
48:15
you know so i don't have to say so did i go to bed
48:17
to release that stress so if you want to play
48:20
with me
48:20
the i'm sorry , and which i like
48:23
that display and let's see that cleanest
48:25
more soft to censor
48:28
the p is what we need to death and
48:31
you could do that with the
48:33
things to do with race as well and
48:35
the united the things to do with and
48:38
you know if you're looking at times
48:40
fazio him say be eaten do that
48:42
without doing the really like on
48:44
gonna knock you over the head with a hammer
48:47
i mean wouldn't that be lovely
48:49
what did you think of naya and
48:51
or her husband and the i have
48:53
a toddler i have a toddler
48:55
with i've seen any they're talking about how they can't
48:58
have babies because the text
49:00
as accident he writes itself out
49:02
our honor and app in the car that
49:05
her husband finds out she's got her period she's not
49:07
pregnant that months because miranda's text
49:09
is read out not miranda salt but the fault of technology
49:12
yeah embarrassed at they're nearly hits parents
49:15
with a toddler how did you could
49:17
that yeah i thought of as a great
49:19
comic my men especially when they can
49:21
see each other and say this is says
49:24
they put the toddler yeah right
49:26
i lost my eyes that and it felt like
49:28
old school sucks the city yeah a joke
49:31
it's like this man
49:33
shouted at shouted at got a toddler
49:36
ah over and over again at of course they don't have
49:38
a toddler and us he doesn't know that's hurtful
49:41
yeah i agree that he feels they delhi the oldest child
49:43
fired off but it was the
49:46
that character with says six the city that
49:48
guy the sort of he's quite
49:50
caught quite caught angry at the same time
49:52
and ah yes it felt very six
49:54
this is to me and also the publisher feels
49:56
race sex the city to may yes the
49:59
kind of stuff hi
50:01
parakeets here then
50:03
i set yeah the publisher wax
50:05
there are talking ah
50:08
lateral thinking you're
50:11
, picking you up ah
50:13
like like the publishes of your for her
50:15
old book having have having problem
50:17
is again but last time had have
50:19
had problem was seated or look too sexy on the
50:21
books yeah you'd look sexy but not
50:24
yep about lakes and this
50:26
time
50:28
three sides of another little initially
50:30
of to see not only isa it's
50:32
just it's split to be an immense
50:35
and him then let's it
50:37
a little bit depressing so
50:40
i think the notes from the publisher were
50:42
a good idea to good the glimmer
50:44
of hope that the and i actually really
50:46
liked that
50:47
how i guarantee you that is not the only note for the
50:49
publisher know i mean is that
50:51
the up your i felt i owed you know
50:53
you're getting of think it's phone
50:55
though absolute lol that that
50:57
was the only see any know as the had to sit know
50:59
it's never going to be any know is not in a minute he
51:01
is assault the any notes i just that lies
51:03
if you're writing a book about who you are never
51:05
be the only known nice parts of the see
51:08
we don't want to see all the little line
51:10
notes but yeah the he
51:12
can't have her on the cover those appropriate it's
51:14
not like it her own book is
51:16
the first book that we saw season a jacket
51:18
with no trousers yeah and a toy
51:20
logs what's he going to do sarah
51:23
window in a black dress
51:25
i know with the rainfall is a book
51:27
called a memoir they will some thanks
51:29
hon member the ammo i saw all niles
51:32
not great toy so i wish
51:34
this shit on a novel about said honestly i
51:37
, that's what it was in the beginning know
51:40
it's not it's a memoir and memoir mean that
51:42
russia's i've i calmly picky about that
51:44
but ah i the
51:47
new hope eman next
51:49
step those see
51:52
right out again they sing
51:55
and she's we're really
51:57
getting back right into the hearts of the comedy
52:00
yeah that's all they want to see the
52:02
every predictions when
52:04
everyone's talking about a then
52:07
i don't want him back he
52:10
was minority said in the press he's coming back
52:12
from say so
52:12
oh okay yeah he
52:14
finds an interview he said he's back i bet it's
52:16
us to say no
52:18
i heard say because if i'm like
52:20
to me either everyone in a
52:22
talks about big and you know
52:24
that he was awful and and
52:27
of course he was awful to carry
52:29
that could be a thin
52:31
i do you really want to have pizza
52:33
controlling he was controlling and
52:36
he was boring
52:39
sorry john corbett if you're listening and give you
52:41
nothing against uncle that i bet
52:43
you're really fun
52:45
the bomb the can access
52:47
it via say i find of agree
52:50
with you i i think it's just gonna be a bump
52:52
it
52:52
married with a hundred children now i am
52:55
not everyone can be i mean unless he's divorced
52:58
they could develop cigarettes i
53:00
think they should push food though fireplace
53:02
sick actually it's always a bit disappointed you
53:04
think he won't what you had
53:06
and then it's disappointing as as watching job colbert
53:09
be else
53:10
yeah what we believe this is that
53:12
the i want to see the day
53:14
i want to see the dating experience
53:17
of an older woman
53:19
i want the a date someone very young i have sex
53:21
with someone very young who enjoys
53:23
the like that
53:24
have totally changed what's possible
53:27
then what you can say up front
53:29
it's not just like bobby the some about you you
53:31
can to keep someone up front contextual
53:34
guys this is the kind of sex i'm into this
53:36
is i don't want one night stands or like
53:38
enough people have picked discussions
53:40
before now and young men
53:43
that that settings to over fifty years
53:45
that can happen so i love the idea
53:48
that she can now screw
53:50
up to date
53:52
urias for i see if i play one episode
53:54
where she goes on six states
53:56
yet i can be you know pops and then one
53:59
can really work
54:00
or whatever saturday excited
54:02
for that yeah me too and old to
54:04
see it gives us the chance to see a
54:06
lot more outfits as well
54:09
say oh thats with yeah
54:12
blow vs glorious leader
54:14
is a member of the blue dress place
54:17
ah thank you so much
54:20
naomi for coming and joining us you say anything
54:22
you came to say that you didn't get to say just
54:25
gonna say really about the
54:28
the representation in the past
54:31
as some of the people in
54:33
sex and the city the
54:38
representing a san i
54:41
was reading an interview with
54:44
one of the average she says hey
54:47
you the remember when suffered
54:49
sedated the black record
54:52
pretty sad i do very well probably
54:55
the worst episode that
54:57
they dead see have
54:59
that really awful long that am
55:02
when they're on the up them
55:04
in a club off the in the evening
55:07
and the month is having an argument
55:09
blades day sister
55:13
he says she doesn't want half brother
55:16
he's black dating a white woman that's
55:18
not really any context that whole
55:21
and samantha says i don't see color i
55:23
see conquests yes
55:26
it's a key and them i
55:29
read an interview their feet actress
55:31
that trade the
55:34
sister recently and
55:36
see said obviously when she got the part
55:39
she was just she was in as twenties
55:42
she was over the thing get
55:44
this time sexist the t of if
55:46
he wouldn't have had a me hey
55:49
in the bowl or the story line
55:51
or anything she just she take care
55:53
but now he looks back and she thinks
55:56
yeah it was it was problematic
56:00
i'm and i think
56:04
david center flight what
56:06
when we know the
56:08
now we do better
56:11
and i agree with that you know like
56:13
half the time i don't know
56:15
what michael patrick kane with think tank
56:17
the now that's
56:20
fine too kind of makes men's that
56:22
that the i think people
56:24
just don't want
56:29
the would you take
56:31
a dangerous when it the that for the help
56:33
that the one hand
56:36
that is often pat and
56:39
i think that was really pleased with last
56:41
night have to say because i didn't feel like
56:43
it was much more and take the lead
56:45
saying yeah
56:47
listen i have just
56:50
loved having you on see you have anything
56:52
to plugs may i be evans
56:54
oh my goodness yes
56:56
i did we've written a book
56:59
and it finally in april
57:01
it's available for preorder now it's some
57:03
it's called the mix face experience
57:06
say that it's about
57:08
and what it's like to grow up between
57:11
two worlds and have multi
57:13
racial heritage i
57:16
say
57:17
i'm so excited to read it in fact i'm excited
57:19
to a guilty feminist episode with you about says
57:22
i am also very excited about that
57:25
the guilty founders we will be doing an episode about
57:27
it we're looking to a live episode
57:29
of with they with me and
57:31
we will tell you more about that as it
57:33
unfolds the made time
57:36
it it comes to me say thank you say much
57:38
naomi evans and you can follow naomi evans
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