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What's up everybody . Welcome back to the having report podcast
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. I am your host , brad Bynes . The price
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. Today is the second iteration of our
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100th episode special featuring Roger
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Bear . If you haven't seen part one , I
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and on part one of the 100th episode
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special , roger announced that he not
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books coming up on a world premiere on
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the Haberger poor podcast . Subscribe
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if you want Bitcoin to go to a million dollars Today
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. On part two , we asked Roger some more
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questions about crypto and technology
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and we had things off with a few fun blitz
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questions for him . If you're not subscribed on your favorite
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it now ? So , without further
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delay , let's get to part two of
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the 100th Haberger poor special episode
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. Another
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question I want to ask you because I know
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you've interviewed him and I
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, not too long ago , had Janison , but
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I wanted to ask you about your experiences with John
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McAfee . I know you guys are
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both well known libertarians and he was
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running for the leadership of the party
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in the States there . What was your experiences
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with John and do you have any
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thoughts around his death
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?
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Yeah . So like I knew John , I can't
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say that I was his best friend and you hang
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out with him every day , but I knew him and we
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had hung out multiple times . You mean you weren't part
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of his militia ? No , I was part of
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his militia , but I do say like I
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hope that when I'm the same age that he was like
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, I hope you know if . I'm even half as sharp
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as he was , like I'd be pretty , pretty happy
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with that and like one example of that
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. We were on a crypto cruise and somebody
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in the audience was talking about some hardware wallet
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he was involved with and how it got hacked
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right . And like he said , like don't you feel
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bad about that ? What do you think about that ? And he goes did
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they steal the crypto ? No , all
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they did is they managed to like install like a Nintendo
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emulator on it . They got to play video games on it . So
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they should be thankful that's an extra feature
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they got for free and didn't have to pay for . I mean , we didn't
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miss a beat with that . And I thought , wow , what a what
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a great reply that was . And so like
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, did he kill himself ? Probably
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not . His former
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running mate , adam Kokesh knew him much
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better than I did Said absolutely
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not , no way in heck . And I think I think
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John's wife also thinks he did not as well
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. So you know
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government's murder people . It's not a secret
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. Look at the JFK . You know
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records . They still haven't released it
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. What ? And everybody involved there is
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dead . So what possible reason could they have
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for for not having released it yet ? I think
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the reason that makes the most sense by far is that the
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government was involved actively in
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killing him . And then a lot of people don't know this , but , like
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Martin Luther King , his family
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sued the government and they had family one
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in civil court that the government was responsible for
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killing Martin Luther King as well
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. So , like , it isn't unheard
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of for governments to kill people that they don't
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like or say things that they don't like , and so , like
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one example of this
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, even for my own life and I
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don't have 100% hard proof of what
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the origin was , but we know who would have a motivation
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Somebody very
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well drafted letter , at one point even tried to have
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my nationality stripped and would leave
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me stateless . At one point a number of years back , and
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like , luckily , the government
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that I was under at that point didn't
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do that to me and I'm grateful to them for that , but what
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a dirty , dirty trick . And then another example with
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John McFafe and his former
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running mate , adam Kokesh . If you haven't seen Adam
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Kokesh's previous YouTube videos , there's
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some great ones out there that I was a real fan of . So
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I donated money to him every month for
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years and years and years , and
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at some point he ran for , not
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president of the United States on a platform
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of if he's elected , you would have an orderly
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dissolution of the United States federal government . Well
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, lo and behold , because I'm not an American
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any longer , the
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Federal Election Commission looked into prosecuting
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me criminally for being a foreigner interfering
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in American elections , because I gave money to
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a guy who ran for the nomination of
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the Libertarian Party , who wanted people like eighth
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place in the nomination for a party that wound
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up getting like half a percent of the vote . And they want to prosecute
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me for criminally interfering . And they
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had some , you know hearing or whatever
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. That's a four person panel to decide whether
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or not to prosecute me criminally . And it was
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deadlocked two to two as to whether or not to prosecute
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me and I was just like wow , I just barely
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escaped being criminally prosecuted . And for giving
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money to a guy who makes videos on YouTube because
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I like the message he's spreading , and
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I said that was so close and scary . And my other
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buddy said no , that's the best possible
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outcome you could have had , that it was so close . And I said what
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do you mean ? And I said you said think about it . You
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, that means you pissed off the maximum number of them that
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you possibly could , and there's nothing they can
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do about it , and so then I felt a little bit
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better about the whole situation , but I'm glad I'm not
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being criminally prosecuted for giving money
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to a YouTuber in America it claims
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to be the home of free speech Exactly
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Now ?
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was you think you were targeted there just because of
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who you are ?
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I think I was targeted because of who I was giving money to
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plus who I was . So they're like oh , it's two for
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one , right .
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So right , are you able to travel
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and visit the United States ?
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Yeah , I have a 10 year multiple and three visa for
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the United States . I can go there anytime I'd like
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. Although I haven't been since before COVID , it's been a few
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years maybe . Maybe later this year
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or next year I'll visit that way .
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Funblitz question Android or iPhone
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iPhone . So it's been like I said
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, it's been a couple of years since you and I have spoken , but
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there's obviously lots of , lots of gone
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on . Is there anything that's kind of happened lately
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or that you're expecting that's going
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to impact in the space ? I know you already were
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talking about the privacy tokens , but
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beyond that , yeah , I think
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privacy tokens at the front of my radar .
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And then , of course , like AI , like ShetGTP
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is already so smart the next version
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is just going to be unimaginably smart . Maybe
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the next version will actually be able to solve my girl
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problems . So
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I'm going to be pretty close with some good advice . The
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next one will actually be able to solve those issues . I'm looking
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forward to that , okay .
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Well , if you make any headway on that , you know I'm going
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to get your DMs on some tips and
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tricks , cause that's a lifelong battle
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. Actually , what ?
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do . I do have A lot of people think oh , shetgtp is free
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, you can use version 3.5 and 3.5
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is pretty good and interesting . Pay the $20
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a month for version 4.0 . It is so
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much better . It's amazing , it's worth the best
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$20 . I've ever spent on anything in my life . It's
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so amazingly good . So pay the $20 for
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ShetGTP 4 .
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Yeah , I didn't use 3.5 for very long before
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I realized that 4 . I'm like I got to get
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4 . Like this is this is wild . And yeah
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, going back to you know you mentioned the
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wallet that Mac if he was talking about . I'm a big
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proponent of the Bitfie here . Obviously
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, I'm Bitfie warrior on Twitter
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. I feel like it was just built around freedom from
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the ground up makes it easy for travel back
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it up and it doesn't matter if you lose it , like
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it's just been all around . Pretty awesome
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. But , yeah , do you have any ? Do you have any favorite like
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hardware ? I'm sure you use , you know , bitcoincom
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, but like for hardware , like do you have favorite
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wallets ?
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Yeah , I actually plug the Mac-Affy wallet . There again
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, I'm an older one because I haven't used it myself
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.
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So yeah , man , this is , this is a
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Bitfie I
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got some stickers on the back and
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I got the two on the back because they did . After
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that bounty that he was talking about , they
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came out and , with all these improvements now
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it's basically becomes unusable If anyone tries
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to tamper with it . Yeah , they basically entered
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their password into it and then
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cold booted or somehow got the password
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back right away , but didn't get keys off
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any of the bounty wallets that
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were out there . But they've essentially made
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some minor upgrades now and it's
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pretty solid . I've been using it ever since 2018
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when they launched and McAfee first
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started talking about it . I know he had a bunch . I
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saw a picture when he had a whole bunch of them on his dresser . I don't know
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why you'd need that many . He's just maybe an
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excessive guy . Probably didn't need that many guns laying around
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him either . But yeah , there , you had them right . Yeah
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, if you want one , man , I got . You know , not that the discount
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would probably matter too much to you , but I
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got . I always give out my plug
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. You know , 50 bucks off for US
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off . It's a $200 wallet , so
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I know it's not on the cheaper end
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of wallets . I think most are like 100
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, 150 around that range .
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Yeah , I think somewhere in that ballpark . It's been a while
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since I bought a hardware wallet , so
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I have a question for you . Sure , what
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would it be to make this podcast and be involved in crypto ?
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Yeah , great question , thank you . Thank you for that . I
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fell in love with the decentralization
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ethos of Bitcoin after learning how
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corrupt the banks are and how
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corrupt things really are . So
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I just I fell in love with Bitcoin when it came , when
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it popped up on my radar again in 2017
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, a year , year and a half , went by and I'm just
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thinking to myself what way can
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I contribute ? I'm not a developer , although
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you know I . You know taking new classes . I'm
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learning as I go . You can help
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you with that too . I know and
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you know , and I had a rabbit hole one night where I was up till
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you know whatever hour in the morning , learning
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, learning code , and you know so much of
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his . You know copy and pasting and you know
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building on the shoulders of giants who've already coded
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this stuff . I've got my motivation to make
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this podcast , man , as long as people are
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willing to come out and talk to me and teach
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me about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies , like
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I got freaking Bitcoin Jesus on with me right
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now , right , like , how awesome is that man ? And
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just just by using Twitter , which you know
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is now X , which another question for you
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I'll lead into that . Well , what are your thoughts about this
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rebranding of X ?
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I don't think I'm in a very good position to criticize
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any of Ylan's business decisions , so
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to me it seems strange , but you
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know more power to it .
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It's interesting . I'm going to say , like what am I
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? Am I ? Am I Xing now ? Am I tweeting ? Am I zeding
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, like I don't know what to say ?
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Yeah , we need to do new work for that , yeah .
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Very interesting . Lots of changes . You
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know . Talk about AI . This platform itself , riverside Roger , like
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it starts to create these , the vertical clips
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for you now that you see on , like YouTube Reels
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or , sorry , instagram Reels , youtube
9:48
, all those , all those short videos now like this is starting
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to generate . Not that you know everything's perfect
9:52
that comes up , but but this tool is really
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starting to push AI in it as
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well . So is there anything else that you
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want to add or any way or that you'd like to
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promote on this episode ?
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I think if you want to see crypto being adopted around
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the world , buying and holding is fine
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, but buying and spending and then taking the fiat
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that you're earning to buy more each time you spend the previous
10:10
crypto , that's an even better way to continue
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to spread crypto adoption . So spend in a place , please
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.
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For sure . And Bitcoin Cash . You know I've
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, as a user of Bitcoin Cash , I've used
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it to pay people that have , you know , helped me out with the
10:21
, with the podcast . It's so seamless
10:23
. Unfortunately , I wasn't around for the days
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when , when Bitcoin was like that , I'll have
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to take your word on it Then . That's how it worked .
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But yeah , bitcoin Cash definitely
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, definitely works quick , if I can plug to the Bitcoincom
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wallet and there's this awesome feature called the shareable
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link feature . I don't know if you've used that yourself , but
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it's the smoothest way to send anybody
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anybody crypto that I've ever that I'm
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aware of in the entire crypto ecosystem . You
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simply just send them a link . They tap on the link
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. If they already have the Bitcoincom wallet boom
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, the money's instantly in their wallet . If they don't
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already have it , it opens the app in the app store , they
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download the app and when the app's done downloading , boom
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, the money is in their wallet . So it's technically two on
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chain transactions , there's no custodian
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in the middle . There . It works in every country . It's
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really an amazing tool to to send people
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crypto . So try that shareable link feature on the send
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side of the Bitcoincom wallet for Bitcoin
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Cash . It's really amazing , something
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that's not possible on Bitcoin due to the high fees and
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custodial nature of what almost everybody's using there .
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What do you ? What do you ? What's your take on ordinals on
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Bitcoin ?
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I didn't realize that the guy behind ordinals is
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one of the big BSV guys that
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was doing a bunch of BSV stuff and
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then switched and made ordinals recently
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. So you know , if people like it , more
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power to them . But NFTs are not something that I'm interested
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in myself .
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You were not really ever into collectibles
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, were you ?
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And I did buy and sell a lot of beanie babies , but that
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was just to make money . I wasn't interested in the collectible
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aspect myself .
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I like the idea of collecting
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digital coins and things
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that are going to pay off , but to have
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to clog up my house with all these
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things , or if you're someone like you who's
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traveling a lot , I'm sure that makes
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the process a little bit more difficult . Speaking
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of traveling , you're doing some traveling coming
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up . Yeah , as soon as we hang up , I'm headed to the
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airport .
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Where are you headed to ? I'm in Japan at the
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moment . I'm heading to Korea . Later today
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you have a conference , I have lots
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of friends and different stuff and I've , you
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know , quite a few places around the world . I spend time Very
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cool man . I'll be in the upload this month .
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Okay , okay , very cool . Fun Blitz question
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what's your favorite animal ? Don't really have one
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, I don't know Cats and dogs are nice .
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Have you had ever had ?
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pets . Growing up , I was an adult , just as a kid .
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We had some cats and dogs as a kid .
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Another Fun Blitz question are you a morning person or a night
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owl ? It's kind of interesting .
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When I'm in Asia , I'm definitely a night owl . When
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I'm in the Caribbean , I'm a morning person . I'll get up
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at you know 4 am , so it's just for
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whatever reason depends on what part of the world I'm in .
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If you had to choose one country to reside , in which country
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would it be ?
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That's a hard one , I think country earth
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right . It's a big world out there .
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Is that your way of saying we need to break
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down borders and have more unity
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?
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I guess that's the way of saying . You don't need more unity , but
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find the people that like you and you get along with and
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spend the time with those sort of people that you enjoy . Don't
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think you have to limit yourself . And what are the odds that
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the place that you were born and grew up at is going to be the best
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place on earth , like the odds that I
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? Maybe it is but the odds of that see pretty
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, pretty low . So go out there and explore the world
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and , you know , make new friends .
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Thank you for doing the having report podcast , Roger
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.
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My pleasure , brad . Thank you so much for your enthusiasm . I
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see it online , so thank you for keeping that up .
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next time . Bye , brad Bynes .
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