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worth best $20 . I've ever spent on anything in my

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life .

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What's up everybody . Welcome back to the having report podcast

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. I am your host , brad Bynes . The price

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of Bitcoin is approximately $27,000

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. Us dollars and there's only about 170

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days left until the next Bitcoin having

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. Today is the second iteration of our

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100th episode special featuring Roger

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Bear . If you haven't seen part one , I

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advise you to watch that episode first . If

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you've seen it , please continue . Roger had announced

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that he's finally writing his own book

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and on part one of the 100th episode

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special , roger announced that he not

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only has one book coming out , but two

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books coming up on a world premiere on

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the Haberger poor podcast . Subscribe

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if you want Bitcoin to go to a million dollars Today

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. On part two , we asked Roger some more

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questions about crypto and technology

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and we had things off with a few fun blitz

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questions for him . If you're not subscribed on your favorite

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podcast platform , what are you doing ? Do

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it now ? So , without further

1:04

delay , let's get to part two of

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the 100th Haberger poor special episode

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. Another

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question I want to ask you because I know

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you've interviewed him and I

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, not too long ago , had Janison , but

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I wanted to ask you about your experiences with John

1:21

McAfee . I know you guys are

1:23

both well known libertarians and he was

1:25

running for the leadership of the party

1:27

in the States there . What was your experiences

1:30

with John and do you have any

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thoughts around his death

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?

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Yeah . So like I knew John , I can't

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say that I was his best friend and you hang

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out with him every day , but I knew him and we

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had hung out multiple times . You mean you weren't part

1:46

of his militia ? No , I was part of

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his militia , but I do say like I

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hope that when I'm the same age that he was like

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, I hope you know if . I'm even half as sharp

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as he was , like I'd be pretty , pretty happy

1:56

with that and like one example of that

1:58

. We were on a crypto cruise and somebody

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in the audience was talking about some hardware wallet

2:02

he was involved with and how it got hacked

2:05

right . And like he said , like don't you feel

2:07

bad about that ? What do you think about that ? And he goes did

2:09

they steal the crypto ? No , all

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they did is they managed to like install like a Nintendo

2:13

emulator on it . They got to play video games on it . So

2:16

they should be thankful that's an extra feature

2:18

they got for free and didn't have to pay for . I mean , we didn't

2:20

miss a beat with that . And I thought , wow , what a what

2:23

a great reply that was . And so like

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, did he kill himself ? Probably

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not . His former

2:30

running mate , adam Kokesh knew him much

2:32

better than I did Said absolutely

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not , no way in heck . And I think I think

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John's wife also thinks he did not as well

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. So you know

2:40

government's murder people . It's not a secret

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. Look at the JFK . You know

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records . They still haven't released it

2:47

. What ? And everybody involved there is

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dead . So what possible reason could they have

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for for not having released it yet ? I think

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the reason that makes the most sense by far is that the

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government was involved actively in

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killing him . And then a lot of people don't know this , but , like

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Martin Luther King , his family

3:02

sued the government and they had family one

3:04

in civil court that the government was responsible for

3:06

killing Martin Luther King as well

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. So , like , it isn't unheard

3:10

of for governments to kill people that they don't

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like or say things that they don't like , and so , like

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one example of this

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, even for my own life and I

3:19

don't have 100% hard proof of what

3:21

the origin was , but we know who would have a motivation

3:24

Somebody very

3:26

well drafted letter , at one point even tried to have

3:28

my nationality stripped and would leave

3:30

me stateless . At one point a number of years back , and

3:32

like , luckily , the government

3:34

that I was under at that point didn't

3:36

do that to me and I'm grateful to them for that , but what

3:39

a dirty , dirty trick . And then another example with

3:41

John McFafe and his former

3:43

running mate , adam Kokesh . If you haven't seen Adam

3:45

Kokesh's previous YouTube videos , there's

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some great ones out there that I was a real fan of . So

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I donated money to him every month for

3:52

years and years and years , and

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at some point he ran for , not

3:56

president of the United States on a platform

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of if he's elected , you would have an orderly

4:01

dissolution of the United States federal government . Well

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, lo and behold , because I'm not an American

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any longer , the

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Federal Election Commission looked into prosecuting

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me criminally for being a foreigner interfering

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in American elections , because I gave money to

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a guy who ran for the nomination of

4:15

the Libertarian Party , who wanted people like eighth

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place in the nomination for a party that wound

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up getting like half a percent of the vote . And they want to prosecute

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me for criminally interfering . And they

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had some , you know hearing or whatever

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. That's a four person panel to decide whether

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or not to prosecute me criminally . And it was

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deadlocked two to two as to whether or not to prosecute

4:33

me and I was just like wow , I just barely

4:36

escaped being criminally prosecuted . And for giving

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money to a guy who makes videos on YouTube because

4:40

I like the message he's spreading , and

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I said that was so close and scary . And my other

4:44

buddy said no , that's the best possible

4:47

outcome you could have had , that it was so close . And I said what

4:49

do you mean ? And I said you said think about it . You

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, that means you pissed off the maximum number of them that

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you possibly could , and there's nothing they can

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do about it , and so then I felt a little bit

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better about the whole situation , but I'm glad I'm not

4:59

being criminally prosecuted for giving money

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to a YouTuber in America it claims

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to be the home of free speech Exactly

5:06

Now ?

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was you think you were targeted there just because of

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who you are ?

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I think I was targeted because of who I was giving money to

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plus who I was . So they're like oh , it's two for

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one , right .

5:15

So right , are you able to travel

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and visit the United States ?

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Yeah , I have a 10 year multiple and three visa for

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the United States . I can go there anytime I'd like

5:23

. Although I haven't been since before COVID , it's been a few

5:25

years maybe . Maybe later this year

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or next year I'll visit that way .

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Funblitz question Android or iPhone

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iPhone . So it's been like I said

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, it's been a couple of years since you and I have spoken , but

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there's obviously lots of , lots of gone

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on . Is there anything that's kind of happened lately

5:40

or that you're expecting that's going

5:42

to impact in the space ? I know you already were

5:44

talking about the privacy tokens , but

5:46

beyond that , yeah , I think

5:48

privacy tokens at the front of my radar .

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And then , of course , like AI , like ShetGTP

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is already so smart the next version

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is just going to be unimaginably smart . Maybe

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the next version will actually be able to solve my girl

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problems . So

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I'm going to be pretty close with some good advice . The

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next one will actually be able to solve those issues . I'm looking

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forward to that , okay .

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Well , if you make any headway on that , you know I'm going

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to get your DMs on some tips and

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tricks , cause that's a lifelong battle

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. Actually , what ?

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do . I do have A lot of people think oh , shetgtp is free

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, you can use version 3.5 and 3.5

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is pretty good and interesting . Pay the $20

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a month for version 4.0 . It is so

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much better . It's amazing , it's worth the best

6:26

$20 . I've ever spent on anything in my life . It's

6:28

so amazingly good . So pay the $20 for

6:30

ShetGTP 4 .

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Yeah , I didn't use 3.5 for very long before

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I realized that 4 . I'm like I got to get

6:35

4 . Like this is this is wild . And yeah

6:38

, going back to you know you mentioned the

6:40

wallet that Mac if he was talking about . I'm a big

6:42

proponent of the Bitfie here . Obviously

6:45

, I'm Bitfie warrior on Twitter

6:47

. I feel like it was just built around freedom from

6:49

the ground up makes it easy for travel back

6:52

it up and it doesn't matter if you lose it , like

6:54

it's just been all around . Pretty awesome

6:56

. But , yeah , do you have any ? Do you have any favorite like

6:58

hardware ? I'm sure you use , you know , bitcoincom

7:01

, but like for hardware , like do you have favorite

7:03

wallets ?

7:03

Yeah , I actually plug the Mac-Affy wallet . There again

7:05

, I'm an older one because I haven't used it myself

7:07

.

7:08

So yeah , man , this is , this is a

7:10

Bitfie I

7:12

got some stickers on the back and

7:15

I got the two on the back because they did . After

7:17

that bounty that he was talking about , they

7:19

came out and , with all these improvements now

7:21

it's basically becomes unusable If anyone tries

7:23

to tamper with it . Yeah , they basically entered

7:26

their password into it and then

7:28

cold booted or somehow got the password

7:30

back right away , but didn't get keys off

7:32

any of the bounty wallets that

7:34

were out there . But they've essentially made

7:36

some minor upgrades now and it's

7:39

pretty solid . I've been using it ever since 2018

7:41

when they launched and McAfee first

7:43

started talking about it . I know he had a bunch . I

7:45

saw a picture when he had a whole bunch of them on his dresser . I don't know

7:47

why you'd need that many . He's just maybe an

7:49

excessive guy . Probably didn't need that many guns laying around

7:52

him either . But yeah , there , you had them right . Yeah

7:54

, if you want one , man , I got . You know , not that the discount

7:56

would probably matter too much to you , but I

7:58

got . I always give out my plug

8:01

. You know , 50 bucks off for US

8:03

off . It's a $200 wallet , so

8:05

I know it's not on the cheaper end

8:07

of wallets . I think most are like 100

8:09

, 150 around that range .

8:11

Yeah , I think somewhere in that ballpark . It's been a while

8:13

since I bought a hardware wallet , so

8:15

I have a question for you . Sure , what

8:17

would it be to make this podcast and be involved in crypto ?

8:20

Yeah , great question , thank you . Thank you for that . I

8:23

fell in love with the decentralization

8:25

ethos of Bitcoin after learning how

8:27

corrupt the banks are and how

8:29

corrupt things really are . So

8:31

I just I fell in love with Bitcoin when it came , when

8:34

it popped up on my radar again in 2017

8:36

, a year , year and a half , went by and I'm just

8:38

thinking to myself what way can

8:40

I contribute ? I'm not a developer , although

8:42

you know I . You know taking new classes . I'm

8:44

learning as I go . You can help

8:46

you with that too . I know and

8:48

you know , and I had a rabbit hole one night where I was up till

8:51

you know whatever hour in the morning , learning

8:53

, learning code , and you know so much of

8:55

his . You know copy and pasting and you know

8:57

building on the shoulders of giants who've already coded

8:59

this stuff . I've got my motivation to make

9:01

this podcast , man , as long as people are

9:04

willing to come out and talk to me and teach

9:06

me about Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies , like

9:08

I got freaking Bitcoin Jesus on with me right

9:10

now , right , like , how awesome is that man ? And

9:12

just just by using Twitter , which you know

9:14

is now X , which another question for you

9:16

I'll lead into that . Well , what are your thoughts about this

9:18

rebranding of X ?

9:20

I don't think I'm in a very good position to criticize

9:22

any of Ylan's business decisions , so

9:25

to me it seems strange , but you

9:27

know more power to it .

9:28

It's interesting . I'm going to say , like what am I

9:30

? Am I ? Am I Xing now ? Am I tweeting ? Am I zeding

9:32

, like I don't know what to say ?

9:34

Yeah , we need to do new work for that , yeah .

9:36

Very interesting . Lots of changes . You

9:38

know . Talk about AI . This platform itself , riverside Roger , like

9:41

it starts to create these , the vertical clips

9:43

for you now that you see on , like YouTube Reels

9:45

or , sorry , instagram Reels , youtube

9:48

, all those , all those short videos now like this is starting

9:50

to generate . Not that you know everything's perfect

9:52

that comes up , but but this tool is really

9:54

starting to push AI in it as

9:56

well . So is there anything else that you

9:58

want to add or any way or that you'd like to

10:00

promote on this episode ?

10:02

I think if you want to see crypto being adopted around

10:04

the world , buying and holding is fine

10:06

, but buying and spending and then taking the fiat

10:08

that you're earning to buy more each time you spend the previous

10:10

crypto , that's an even better way to continue

10:12

to spread crypto adoption . So spend in a place , please

10:15

.

10:15

For sure . And Bitcoin Cash . You know I've

10:17

, as a user of Bitcoin Cash , I've used

10:19

it to pay people that have , you know , helped me out with the

10:21

, with the podcast . It's so seamless

10:23

. Unfortunately , I wasn't around for the days

10:26

when , when Bitcoin was like that , I'll have

10:28

to take your word on it Then . That's how it worked .

10:30

But yeah , bitcoin Cash definitely

10:32

, definitely works quick , if I can plug to the Bitcoincom

10:34

wallet and there's this awesome feature called the shareable

10:37

link feature . I don't know if you've used that yourself , but

10:39

it's the smoothest way to send anybody

10:41

anybody crypto that I've ever that I'm

10:43

aware of in the entire crypto ecosystem . You

10:45

simply just send them a link . They tap on the link

10:47

. If they already have the Bitcoincom wallet boom

10:49

, the money's instantly in their wallet . If they don't

10:51

already have it , it opens the app in the app store , they

10:53

download the app and when the app's done downloading , boom

10:56

, the money is in their wallet . So it's technically two on

10:58

chain transactions , there's no custodian

11:00

in the middle . There . It works in every country . It's

11:02

really an amazing tool to to send people

11:05

crypto . So try that shareable link feature on the send

11:07

side of the Bitcoincom wallet for Bitcoin

11:09

Cash . It's really amazing , something

11:11

that's not possible on Bitcoin due to the high fees and

11:13

custodial nature of what almost everybody's using there .

11:15

What do you ? What do you ? What's your take on ordinals on

11:17

Bitcoin ?

11:18

I didn't realize that the guy behind ordinals is

11:20

one of the big BSV guys that

11:23

was doing a bunch of BSV stuff and

11:25

then switched and made ordinals recently

11:27

. So you know , if people like it , more

11:29

power to them . But NFTs are not something that I'm interested

11:31

in myself .

11:33

You were not really ever into collectibles

11:35

, were you ?

11:36

And I did buy and sell a lot of beanie babies , but that

11:38

was just to make money . I wasn't interested in the collectible

11:40

aspect myself .

11:41

I like the idea of collecting

11:44

digital coins and things

11:46

that are going to pay off , but to have

11:48

to clog up my house with all these

11:50

things , or if you're someone like you who's

11:53

traveling a lot , I'm sure that makes

11:55

the process a little bit more difficult . Speaking

11:57

of traveling , you're doing some traveling coming

11:59

up . Yeah , as soon as we hang up , I'm headed to the

12:01

airport .

12:02

Where are you headed to ? I'm in Japan at the

12:04

moment . I'm heading to Korea . Later today

12:06

you have a conference , I have lots

12:08

of friends and different stuff and I've , you

12:10

know , quite a few places around the world . I spend time Very

12:12

cool man . I'll be in the upload this month .

12:15

Okay , okay , very cool . Fun Blitz question

12:17

what's your favorite animal ? Don't really have one

12:19

, I don't know Cats and dogs are nice .

12:22

Have you had ever had ?

12:23

pets . Growing up , I was an adult , just as a kid .

12:25

We had some cats and dogs as a kid .

12:26

Another Fun Blitz question are you a morning person or a night

12:28

owl ? It's kind of interesting .

12:30

When I'm in Asia , I'm definitely a night owl . When

12:32

I'm in the Caribbean , I'm a morning person . I'll get up

12:34

at you know 4 am , so it's just for

12:36

whatever reason depends on what part of the world I'm in .

12:38

If you had to choose one country to reside , in which country

12:40

would it be ?

12:41

That's a hard one , I think country earth

12:43

right . It's a big world out there .

12:45

Is that your way of saying we need to break

12:47

down borders and have more unity

12:50

?

12:50

I guess that's the way of saying . You don't need more unity , but

12:52

find the people that like you and you get along with and

12:54

spend the time with those sort of people that you enjoy . Don't

12:57

think you have to limit yourself . And what are the odds that

12:59

the place that you were born and grew up at is going to be the best

13:01

place on earth , like the odds that I

13:03

? Maybe it is but the odds of that see pretty

13:05

, pretty low . So go out there and explore the world

13:07

and , you know , make new friends .

13:08

Thank you for doing the having report podcast , Roger

13:11

.

13:11

My pleasure , brad . Thank you so much for your enthusiasm . I

13:13

see it online , so thank you for keeping that up .

13:19

Hey you thanks for listening to the having report podcast

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. If you want to support , follow us on your favorite podcast

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platform and leave us a five-star rating and

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we'll be on our socials at having report . If you're

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Canadian and you want to buy Bitcoin or cryptocurrency

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for the first time , go to bit byca

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. Forward slash having for a $20

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to havingreportcom . Forward slash

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bit by for more information until

13:48

next time . Bye , brad Bynes .

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