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horse racing at Canterbury Park. PA, Paul
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Allen, thanks for joining me on the
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podcast today. My man, thanks
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for the opportunity and I follow you on
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Twitter so I know you're really into Minnesota
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sports and this is a wonderful opportunity. Thank
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you. Well, I appreciate it and as much
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as we love Minnesota sports, I think there's
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something that you and I both respect and
1:31
love even more and that's faith in Jesus
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Christ as our Lord and Savior. I
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discovered that you came to faith in the Lord at
1:39
age 52 and for some of us
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like me, it
1:44
takes like a rock bottom moment to rededicate your
1:47
life to Christ or to dedicate your life in
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the first place. What
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was that process like? Because up until age 52, you
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hadn't yet done that. So was
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there a moment? Was there a spiritual
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awakening that happened? in your
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life or what happened? Well
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thank you very much for asking specifically right
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out of the gate and you know despite
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calling Minnesota Vikings games doing 9 to
2:11
noon on on K-fan, calling races, everything
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you said, my
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identity specifically with those who
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know me best
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is rooted in the Bible
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and rooted in the
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triune, God, Jesus Christ and the
2:26
Holy Spirit. So that's my
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identity you know really moving forward with
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the rest of my life and you
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know to really just share in
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truncated fashion kind of what happened to me
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is you know I'm 58 years
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of age, I've always believed in
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God, I always prayed the Lord's
2:44
Prayer no matter where I lived
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Hawaii, the Philippines, California, Washington
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DC, Minnesota wherever
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and you know I always was one to
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talk to God in essence like
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you know say I'm walking into an ocean
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you know I always was a person
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who believed in God and would be like thank
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you for this beautiful day father or thank you
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for this opportunity. So really for
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the first 50 some odd years of my life
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that's who I was. During
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that time I had no idea
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that A, Christ
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was God on earth and
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B, the significance of
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the crucifixion and the resurrection.
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So I went to an evangelical
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preach at a Baptist Church in
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Minnesota and Pastor West
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who's become one of my very best
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friends and absolutely my go-to teacher. He
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was doing a series called All Sides of the Savior and
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I hadn't gone to church that much in my life and
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I'd never read a word in the Bible. I
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mean you know I might have looked at something
3:45
if somebody asked me something but I'd never really
3:47
read the Bible. So he's doing this
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series All Sides of the Savior and
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it's also a book and it
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was the burden of unforgiveness and these passages were
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popping up to him just like you know Matthew
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over here for Corinthians over there, Jose
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over here, Habakkuk over here, and I
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had no idea what was happening. But
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I knew when I left that
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I felt a way that I'd never felt in my
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life, and I couldn't stop thinking about it. So I
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went to call races at Canterbury, and I
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just could not wait to get back, but I
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still hadn't cracked open the Bible. So I go
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the next week, all sides of the Savior again,
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burden of idolatry, and I didn't even
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know what idolatry meant. And
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here come these passages again. There's
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Philippians and Revelation and
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Genesis and Deuteronomy. And
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I mean, I was like, whoa. But
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at that point, I had learned by listening
4:40
closely that I'm like, so wait
4:42
a second. The
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Jesus Christ on earth was God.
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So God became man. All right, so I put
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that together. And Matthew,
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the Gospel of Matthew, chapter 11, verses 28 to 30,
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was part of that preach, I
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believe, one of the first two. And
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I don't have my Bible in front of me, but it's like
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Matthew 11, 28 to 30, come to me,
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all who are heavy laden, and I'll give you
5:07
rest, take my yoke upon you and learn from
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me. My heart is lowly and my burden
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is light. And I looked at
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it and I just couldn't stop thinking about it. And
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it's the first thing that hit
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me after I learned the significance
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and immortality of Jesus Christ. Well,
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then I'm thinking to myself, you know,
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if his heart is lowly and
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his burden is light, like
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why am I freaking out on all these
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little tiny things? So that was an epiphany,
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so to speak, that I never
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forgot. And secondly,
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I then went into the Gospel of
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Matthew and I read that passage. And
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then I started learning how
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to read around it, put the context
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together, tie it to different parts of
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the Bible, if that's
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what's required. And so just
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to fast forward and land the plane, I've
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taken a. bunch of classes on
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the Bible, you know, like a seven-week
6:04
course on Revelation, took
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a class on eschatology, a class
6:08
on end times, but
6:12
systematic theology. It was
6:14
a 13-week course and I went to about nine and
6:17
it again was way over my head. But
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God had me leave it recognizing
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and learning something about an effectual
6:24
calling, which in the book of
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Romans the Apostle Paul writes via
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predestination, foreknowledge goes to
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calling, goes to justification,
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to glorification. And God
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has me absolutely believing. That's what happened in
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my life at that moment. You know, I've
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always, I always have been with God and
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he obviously always has been with me, but
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until the age 52 he didn't
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really reach in there and grab me and
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like put me on my path so
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that it's the most beautiful time of
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my life. It's the greatest time of
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my life. It's not even close. There
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are details of life that run me
7:03
down, but the
7:05
overarching approach is
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given my knowledge in
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what matters most in
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the world, the root to heaven. It's
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the greatest time of my life thanks
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to learning that and, you
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know, it's gone to a lot of
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speaking. I've done sermons and of late
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I had just the unbelievable honor given
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to me by by
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trig, the chaplain for
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the Minnesota Vikings, to do fellowship
7:32
the night before the final game
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of the season, the Lions game
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in Detroit at our team hotel
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for players, coaches, and staff. And
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when that was out because it was on my
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birthday, so like I started it off and when
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I saw cousins walk into the room because he
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was hurt and I didn't know it was on
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the trip, you know, and Kirk and I have
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talked a lot of Bible. His father Don is
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a pastor in Orlando. I respect him greatly. I've
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called Don a hundred times to ask him biblical.
8:00
cool questions over the last five years. I
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mean, it continues to be and it's not even close. And
8:20
I've called a lot of games, a lot of races, and
8:23
done a lot of radio shows. So, you
8:25
know, that really resonates with me
8:27
at least. But, you know,
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at the end of it, they lined up
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and hugged me and, you know,
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Garrah Bradbury, Kirk Cousins, Jordan Hicks,
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Cam Bynum, Brian Flores, you know,
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just guys I've gotten to know
8:40
through faith over the years. And
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I got some really nice text messages
8:45
after that about being theologically accurate and
8:47
impassioned. And so from
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there, you know, God now
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has me with a couple of them meeting
8:55
weekly so that we
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can iron, sharpen iron and better
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learn about the Bible. That's kind
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of the agency. I told you to be truncated.
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It took about five minutes. I apologize for that.
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But that's my story and God is sticking to it.
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Yeah. Well, last night, a lot of people don't
9:11
know this, but I'm a youth pastor at our
9:13
local church. And last night I did a message
9:15
on boldness and faith. You
9:17
get the hearing, then you get the believing. But
9:20
then there's this next step of having boldness and
9:22
declaring your faith to others. And you know, you
9:24
got to get through this fear of what, what,
9:26
what other people might think of you. How do
9:29
you get to that confidence? Where
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does that confidence come from for you to
9:33
all of a sudden, your believer at 52
9:35
now you're preaching messages and sermons all over
9:37
the place in front of the in
9:39
front of the Vikings roster. Where do
9:41
you get confidence like that? Well,
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you know, that that's one of the most
9:46
unique, best questions that I think I've ever
9:48
received in a setting like this, talking about
9:50
faith and the Bible and everything. So thank
9:52
you for that. I'll get to the confidence
9:54
part in a minute. It's,
9:56
it's God has the pedal to the metal
9:58
with me. The
10:01
Bible is something I read or listen to
10:03
every day. I write about stuff with the
10:05
Faith and Goal podcast. I've been a little
10:07
sketchy and in and out with that of
10:09
late because I've been doing other faith-related things.
10:13
With that said, when I say pedal
10:15
to the metal is not only am I still learning a
10:17
lot on a daily basis,
10:20
but God also has me with
10:22
some of these preachers that I
10:24
watch on YouTube. It's taken me
10:27
a while to vet out the
10:29
types of preachers that I believe
10:32
are absolutely to Scripture. They're
10:35
not too finger-pointy in any
10:37
centers or be at
10:40
religions that may be works-based
10:42
which I don't believe in. But
10:45
I'm also not as finger-pointy with it as
10:47
some other people are. There's
10:50
been a lot of learning through that. In
10:54
2021, I
10:56
had the honor privilege,
10:59
I guess those are the only two ways to put it, to
11:02
serve an 81-year-old woman
11:04
named Armani who
11:07
incurred COVID and
11:09
also had cancer. They
11:12
said if you have a pre-existing condition and
11:14
you get COVID, it goes
11:16
fast. I was right next to it. Her
11:20
daughter had COVID pneumonia. She
11:23
was in the hospital so she couldn't be with her mom.
11:26
I had COVID for 48 hours. It's
11:29
like four of us got it and mine was gone
11:31
in 48 hours. I'm glad it was
11:33
because I was able to get over there and serve
11:35
her physically and spiritually for
11:37
eight days brought right to her death.
11:41
To a man, and people get surprised, I bet
11:43
you you don't, but people get surprised when I
11:45
say this, it was the greatest eight days
11:47
of my life. It makes my
11:49
chin quiver every single time I think about everything
11:52
that went into that week and those eight
11:54
days. When I say the greatest, it's because
11:57
Serving somebody physically and spiritually, it's.
12:00
Either never happens in somebody's his wife
12:02
or if you're thrust into it. And
12:05
you know it is. It's there's only one
12:07
that I guess are two ways to go.
12:10
either quit or you serve somebody physically and
12:12
spiritually out. You know she died eight days
12:14
into it and then I'm We went to
12:16
her funeral in Detroit and he a lot
12:19
of friends and family members in over crying
12:21
over her, missing their friend, in their family
12:23
member and in I was really depressed man
12:25
for about three months right up right up
12:27
through the beginning of Canterbury Park. Twenty twenty.
12:30
One because you know, like when
12:32
I say panels of the metal
12:34
tim I was like father, where
12:36
where are the honors? This is
12:38
all I wanna do the rest
12:40
of my life when I just
12:42
get these a days. It was
12:44
the most powerful, beautiful, satisfying and
12:46
and. It's. A spiritual least
12:48
stimulating thing I'd ever done in my
12:50
life. And it wasn't like a spiritual
12:53
buzz for you hear a preacher you're
12:55
reading of new supply balloon you like
12:57
was really resonated with you know this
12:59
was wife and I just loved. As
13:01
you know through that I learned the
13:04
honors come from God and I'm on
13:06
his schedule and were on his schedule
13:08
not on ours so I was. That
13:10
was a big eye opener for me
13:13
when it comes to wear these honors
13:15
with all these privileged jobs of that.is
13:17
presented. Mates and that plays into the
13:19
answer. The question is that you know
13:21
when it, when it's when it's proclaiming
13:24
my love for Jesus Christ and my
13:26
belief in the bible and the yard.
13:28
Try Young and dumb. Or. The
13:30
Trinity, The Godhead our view describe it. Got.
13:34
You know it's it's It's hard
13:36
for me to answer that because
13:38
God has made things have been
13:40
didn't least so much easier for
13:42
me that he has a lot
13:44
of people and what I mean
13:47
is is you know I the
13:49
I take I came to the
13:51
full belief of Christ and understanding
13:53
of Christ and and and the
13:55
baptism. In in my fifties.
13:58
But. during that time you
14:00
know despite not going to
14:02
college, despite living just a
14:04
reprehensible and at times repulsive
14:07
life back in the 90s,
14:09
that full of sin, he
14:12
still permitted me and guided me
14:15
to become a racetrack
14:17
announcer on a microphone for 30
14:19
years called Minnesota Vikings Football as
14:22
my very first play-by-play job. I mean,
14:24
I auditioned for a National Football League
14:26
play-by-play job and I went. So God
14:28
put me there and this
14:30
is my first radio show ever in my life too at
14:33
K-Pan and I've done it 26 years. So
14:36
he put all these microphones in front
14:39
of me and built my confidence and
14:41
the eloquent speaking styles and the big
14:43
Twitter following and things like that and
14:45
that in its own right gives confidence.
14:49
But I've just learned a lot
14:51
through the gaining of the confidence
14:54
of when to jump in organically,
14:58
when to back off and
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it's just been a beautiful process. Thank you for
15:02
asking. Absolutely. And for those of you, I just
15:04
want to respond to
15:06
a point that you made. For some people
15:08
that think that God can't use them, well,
15:10
you just shared that after 50 something years
15:12
of life, God was
15:15
able to grab a hold of you
15:17
and change you and use you despite
15:19
passing in and I mean, that's the
15:21
fact for all of us and I
15:23
turn my thoughts and opinions or remember
15:25
the Apostle Paul. He
15:27
was Saul from Tarsus who persecuted
15:30
and killed Christians and this is
15:32
a guy that Jesus impacted and
15:36
inspired to write most of the New
15:38
Testament. Well, and it's,
15:40
look at you and I, man. I mean, people
15:42
watching this, a lot of people watching this are
15:45
going to know you because they follow you and
15:48
God has made it with my
15:50
jobs and the secular shine that
15:52
comes with them so that X
15:54
amount of people watching know what
15:56
I do. So, therefore,
15:59
hopefully... The you know my
16:01
in our character is such where.
16:04
I'm. A novice get away at all like
16:06
this is used those watching if you
16:08
think I'm lying. Or. Of you
16:10
think I'm exaggerating or of you think
16:12
I'm making things up, you're a fool
16:15
because I'm not Now a dozen wholeheartedly
16:17
conclusively mean I'm right. I'm just tell
16:19
when you have always believed in god
16:21
and you know five years ago the
16:23
following took place and fighting through the
16:26
okay look at this twitter following. ah
16:28
the the everything God has done for
16:30
me with these jobs or me get
16:32
out there and share with all nations
16:34
and of the gospel and things like
16:37
that. Why to slow down on that?
16:39
Because my schedule. Not is. and it
16:41
was. I not by. So there's been a
16:43
lot of learning during this, you know, But
16:45
damn. But. He. Largest the Bible
16:47
teaches, There's anything you hear from me
16:49
biblically speaking to the best of my
16:51
ability is going to be free from
16:53
the bible is is not going to
16:56
be my opinion and and. I
16:59
don't care if you're an atheist like
17:01
Richard Dawkins. Ah, if you are a
17:03
preacher. One of my favorites like the
17:05
late great Billy Graham. may god rest
17:07
his soul. Whatever. God wants
17:09
you to do whenever he wants you
17:11
to do which. It's you
17:13
can't stop it in and try to
17:15
stop it And God gives free will
17:17
with the ability and potential for evil
17:20
and sin and free will very important
17:22
but it it. If he wants to
17:24
change at all for you it's going
17:26
to change for the better and there's
17:28
nothing you can do about it and
17:30
I just think that soviet a both
17:32
me and I'll be I can tell
17:34
ya to tell me stories I have
17:36
of God's hands ng something in my
17:39
life to make it happen whatever that
17:41
he wanted to happen on Sunday March.
17:43
Tenth: I'm preaching. Add our
17:45
and that and from my youth Pastor
17:47
Cypress in front of the six through
17:49
high schoolers I was have been given
17:51
the opportunity on Sunday March tenth, two
17:53
priests in front of our entire and
17:55
front of our entire arm. And
17:58
prototype returns and of and. Congregation I'm
18:00
so if you're interested have
18:03
transformed Church Sunday October of
18:05
Sunday March tenth. Or in
18:07
Andover while at the we can see
18:09
ghosts are more time Nine and ten
18:11
forty five? Yeah make sure I'll make
18:14
sure you just me on their Ma'am
18:16
begun. Awesome got you. I mean ice
18:18
at all Not not only to support
18:20
you are you know but I found
18:22
surrounded your i go to pay family
18:24
church history classes, the lead Baster, an
18:27
Apple Valley and are and at the
18:29
roads are now Rosenau Community Center on
18:31
Sundays you know and that's my church
18:33
and and that's that. Those are my
18:35
people and on their. People know thing
18:37
and I'm and and that's my church
18:40
spots. With that said every so often
18:42
like on Wednesday nights if there is
18:44
a if there's something going on or
18:46
a or a Sunday were have gone
18:48
to pay family on a Saturday or
18:50
you know I think that's important to
18:52
to you know God God shows me
18:54
a lot of things when it comes
18:57
to. Things. I see on you
18:59
tube with false teachers and things that
19:01
you know that I'll go to a
19:03
church and all of a sudden you
19:05
know says somebody is breaking out speaking
19:08
in tongues and a that know Mike
19:10
Wallace as you know that's not that's
19:12
not exactly and of the way it's
19:14
it's it's put hear about the Apostle
19:16
Paul are so therefore it off see
19:19
that and like him and I'll stay
19:21
away and so it Dom I look
19:23
forward to this March tenth man I'd
19:25
like an adult. Next year I'll take.
19:27
The reminder injure offices a couple ten
19:29
minutes from our Coon rapids of the
19:32
Dubs. Low energy as go there
19:34
every year for try to football fees
19:36
well it could be in Alaska and
19:38
to support you air somebody find me
19:41
a direct flight to know months. Since.
19:46
We're not laugh like that with that
19:48
cop man I know. Seriously. Well, Well.
19:51
I tell you what? As we get into some Vikings
19:53
questions here, I tell you what if if I still
19:55
run upstairs it's because my wife's gonna pop a baby
19:57
number two and a moment. So have I have this.
20:00
adults because I just received a text message
20:18
from my wife that our water broke. Let's
20:22
close our eyes and bow our heads for a moment.
20:25
Heavenly Father, please have it be in Your will for
20:27
the child that was just mentioned and
20:30
bring that beautiful thing into the earth in
20:32
10 of 10 fashion. In the
20:35
name of Your Son Jesus, Amen. I
20:37
appreciate that Paul. That actually brings up one
20:39
more point on God's impact on
20:41
faith. You hear a lot about,
20:43
I'll pray for you, but
20:46
the fact that you didn't say I'll
20:48
pray for you and you just prayed
20:50
for me is powerful. Say
20:52
it again. All I do is pray. I
20:55
do. In
20:57
fact, and here, and just
20:59
quickly like, oh, that's terrible. I'll pray for
21:01
you. All right. I mean, we
21:03
all have said that eight million times and
21:05
the majority of times we don't pray. Amen.
21:09
Because we forget. Here's what I do. When
21:12
I say it, like literally if I'm talking
21:14
on the phone, it happened last night to a dear friend
21:16
of mine who's going through a problem. Man, you know, I'm
21:18
going to pray for you. And then I'll be like, hold
21:20
on. And I'll put it on mute. And
21:23
then I'll like, I'll pray. You know, if it's a
21:25
short prayer, long prayer, whatever. I'll
21:28
pray to make sure I remember. Yeah.
21:31
Amen. Thank you, brother. I appreciate that.
21:33
Love you, man. Shifting on to the Minnesota Vikings
21:35
real quick. So much offseason speculation and it's not
21:38
even the offseason. Andy got four games left in
21:40
the playoffs. What
21:44
percent is chance to give Kirk Cousins coming back
21:46
in the Minnesota Vikings uniform? Because day by day
21:48
goes by and some random guy on bookies.com just
21:50
projected Kirk Cousins. Go to the Raiders. I saw
21:53
Kirk Cousins going to the Falcons. What
21:55
percent is chance to give Kirk Cousins
21:57
coming back to the Minnesota Vikings? Man,
22:00
that is such a
22:03
tough question. I'm
22:07
not afraid to concede that I love Kirk
22:09
and I love Kirk's faith and I love
22:11
what he stands for and I love his
22:13
father and I've gotten to know his family.
22:16
I want Kirk to come back here very
22:18
badly. The spirit
22:20
that we've had in the building at Twin
22:23
Cities Orthopedics Performance Center the last couple of
22:25
years has just been
22:27
beautiful, man, and for multiple reasons. After
22:30
about 20, calling games for this team, I was
22:32
about done. There
22:35
are some bosses of mine who if they're watching, they
22:37
know I'm telling the truth. Some very
22:39
close friends of mine. I was just done
22:42
for, I'd done 20 and I didn't like
22:44
some things about some things. With
22:47
the new regime that came in with O'Connell and
22:49
everything, I really
22:52
backed off going to as many practices. They let
22:54
me go to practice because they know that they
22:56
can trust me and I'm not going to go
22:59
on Twitter or tell anybody anything. But
23:01
nevertheless, I'm like, you know what? This really gives me
23:03
an opportunity with a new regime to kind of back
23:05
away a little bit and
23:08
dictate terms a
23:10
way I had not for the previous 10
23:12
years. So I didn't go to a lot of practices.
23:15
Didn't need to be on the second floor
23:17
of the facility, kicking my feet up in
23:19
a coach's office. I had
23:22
done a lot of that. I liked it, served
23:25
its purpose, but I was done with it. And
23:27
then all of a sudden we started winning all
23:29
those games. A lot of, with those close games,
23:31
man, Kirk Cousins had a lot to do with
23:34
those too. And then
23:36
I couldn't get enough of it. Then I was basically at three
23:39
practices or two a week. And
23:42
I just, I mean, I was
23:44
so rejuvenated from a spirit standpoint,
23:47
from a Holy Spirit in the
23:49
building standpoint, prayer in the hallway,
23:51
prayer in the field house, prayer
23:53
in the locker room, prayer on
23:56
the sidelines before the games. And
23:59
God just really. revitalized the situation for me
24:01
and Kirk Cousins had a lot to do with that. Just
24:05
being open with him about
24:07
the Bible and
24:09
talking to him about games and stuff
24:11
like that and so from
24:14
a percentage standpoint, I'm hoping it's a
24:16
high percentage. But
24:19
I think a key here, Tim,
24:21
is that there was a report, in
24:24
fact talked about it 9 to noon on K-Pan today.
24:27
Former Vikings general manager Jeff Diamond very well
24:29
respected in the NFL. I know Jeff. I
24:32
don't think he hasn't really worked in the
24:34
NFL in quite some time but he knows
24:36
a lot of people so I don't have
24:38
any reason to think he's lying but he
24:40
kind of went down the road of that
24:42
the Justin Jefferson extension is closer
24:45
than farther. So I
24:47
thought to myself if
24:49
JJ is signed
24:52
or extended before
24:54
there's closure with Kirk, well
24:58
that either because JJ is not signing a
25:00
five-year extension here or four-year extension if he
25:02
doesn't know who the quarterback is going to
25:04
be or what the plan is. So
25:08
that might be an indicator that
25:10
they're going to close on Cousins shortly
25:12
after him or
25:15
being around the facility as much as
25:17
I have as long as I have my ma'am
25:20
is when you pick 11th, I
25:22
haven't heard it but I can guarantee it's been
25:24
said a hundred times. Well, last year we're going
25:26
to pick 11th. We don't need to be picking
25:28
around 11th anymore because that's the bottom half of
25:30
the NFL. If that's the
25:33
case and this quarterback draft is as
25:35
deep as it is and if you
25:37
are not going to redo
25:40
something with Cousins and
25:42
you extend Jefferson, I mean I think that that's
25:44
kind of a tell that they're shipping all
25:46
in to get up to pick three and they
25:48
really feel they can do it or pick
25:50
five and take somebody that nobody's talking about right
25:53
now. So it's confusing.
25:55
Kirk resigning here, percentage wouldn't
25:58
be... Hmm.
26:02
One thing Kirk has been consistent about, the saucy,
26:04
is that he said, the one thing I want
26:06
to do is win. And
26:08
the one question that I have is,
26:10
is the Minnesota Vikings, do they present
26:13
the best opportunity to win next season?
26:15
When I look at the north, well
26:17
the Packers, the Bears, the Lions, it
26:19
seems like they're all getting better. You
26:21
look at the team like the Falcons,
26:23
well the NFC South is garbage. The
26:25
Panthers stink, the Buccaneers, they might not
26:27
have Baker back, the Ravens might not
26:29
be back, the Saints, who really knows
26:31
with them. If Belichick does go to
26:33
the Falcons, does he give Cousins the best chance
26:35
to win? You know, I
26:37
mean I know Atlanta's roster pretty well. The
26:40
Vikings played Atlanta this year and that was
26:42
the Dobbs Delirium game. So
26:45
first and foremost, Kirk's wife's
26:48
family is from the
26:50
Atlanta area and they still live there.
26:54
Well that matters. Well, you know, if you look at
26:57
what they have compared to what the Vikings have, with
26:59
all due respect, I would take our roster
27:01
over theirs, 10 out of 10
27:04
times. So you
27:06
know, with what you're saying here, what
27:09
has hit my heart of late, really
27:12
the last couple of days, and I'm being dead
27:14
serious about it and we'll see what happens this
27:16
weekend, is Kirk Cousins
27:18
and Kyle Shanahan, coach of the
27:20
Niners, are very close. And
27:23
Kyle, they both respect each other 10 out
27:25
of 10. And Kyle
27:27
has wanted Kirk before he had him
27:29
in Washington. So really, if
27:31
you want Kirk Cousins to be on the
27:34
Minnesota Vikings, I think the last
27:36
thing you want to see Sunday night is
27:39
Brock Purdy head out and lay
27:41
an egg. And the Niners get beat.
27:44
Because Kyle Shanahan, I swear,
27:47
he'll cut whatever it takes to get Cousins into the
27:49
mix. So that's first and
27:51
foremost, because that's a really good roster. And
27:54
that's a really good roster. But
27:56
you know, one thing that's very important to
27:58
Kirk is... is familiarity
28:01
with the scheme and the
28:03
offense and the calls. And
28:06
now he would be heading into his third year
28:08
here. So it's gotten to be kind of like
28:11
back of the hand for him. He's very smart.
28:13
And this offense is very good. It's the past first
28:16
offense. But when they
28:18
have cousins, Jefferson, Addison, Hockinson,
28:21
maybe get a little more to have some more merit
28:23
on the play action, it's pretty good
28:26
offense, and I think one that Kirk wants to
28:28
be part of. You
28:30
mentioned a little bit earlier the Vikings
28:32
chances or the possibilities that they're going to trade
28:34
up for a top three pick. Well, you look
28:36
at the top three picks from the teams. You've
28:38
got the Bears. You've got the Commanders. You've got
28:41
the Patriots. And I've seen report after report like
28:43
you have about the Vikings and their chances of
28:45
trading up into the top three. But you
28:47
look at those teams, and you think
28:50
that all three might draft a quarterback. I
28:52
mean, Matt Jones or the Patriots is a
28:54
question mark. Maybe they want to see
28:56
what he's got one more year. But I don't
28:59
think it's going to be as easy as everyone's reporting that it's
29:01
going to be, do you? Absolutely agree
29:03
with you. Ben Lever, former Vikings
29:05
linebacker, part of the Vikings radio network, our
29:07
sideline analyst. Well, he said that on the
29:10
9 to noon show on K-Fan today. And
29:12
it makes a lot of sense, especially with
29:14
new coaches, one coming in
29:16
Washington, one already there in New
29:18
England. The Bears are
29:20
taking Caleb Williams. I mean, I've
29:23
heard from somebody who's extremely close
29:25
to the situation that
29:27
that's probably going to
29:29
be the pick. So I'm all in on Caleb
29:32
first. But whether it
29:34
goes May, Daniels or Daniels May,
29:37
and those teams may not want to move because they have
29:39
new coaches, I'm with you on that. A
29:42
couple of weeks ago, I was kind of hoping
29:44
Bill Belichick would still be with the New England
29:46
Patriots because he never does what everybody
29:49
says he's going to do, which means that
29:51
that pick could be more tradable. Everybody
29:55
has a price. Everybody
29:58
has a price. Keep that in mind. So
30:00
I think there would be a way to get
30:02
there if Minnesota wanted to get there but
30:05
you know the Chargers at five with Jim
30:07
Harbaugh and Justin Herbert,
30:09
you know Anthony Richardson the
30:11
Florida quarterback last year It
30:14
ain't nobody at this time last
30:16
year thinking he was gonna go like
30:18
fourth in the draft All right, so
30:20
we're gonna go to the combine. We're
30:22
gonna we're going to Figure
30:25
out what the steam situations like and try to get
30:27
a grip on it, but somebody is
30:29
going to jump way up I don't know
30:31
who it is I don't I don't watch
30:33
college football that much but somebody's gonna jump
30:35
way up. So keep that five spot in
30:37
mind, Joe time for
30:39
two more two
30:41
more Wet shirt
30:44
and I almost wore a wolf's hat. Oh, man.
30:46
See it's kg behind you, right? Yeah, that is
30:48
kg behind me Yeah, we can we can spend
30:50
five minutes on the wolves anytime you want to
30:53
Totally bit by the squad. Oh, well
30:57
Let's do it then. I mean I was gonna
30:59
ask you if well Cat
31:02
goes for 62. Hmm Tim
31:05
rolls loose the Hornets. Yeah. Oh They
31:09
trade they're one of the best players Terry Rose here to
31:11
Miami the next day My
31:16
opinion is that this Tim rules team although
31:18
they are the second team I think right
31:20
now in the Western Conference. I think they
31:22
went to two yesterday or the day before
31:25
I Think
31:27
they're a little fraudulent to be honest,
31:30
I don't think they have the well,
31:33
probably Helen mean like, you know
31:35
if I if and and Chris
31:37
Fence the coach he comes on
31:39
my radio show weekly Chris
31:42
and I just really hit it off from the first time
31:44
I met him. We're both on the East Coast We
31:46
have a lot of similar interests You
31:49
know, so even if like Chris were sitting right here and I
31:51
said this I don't think he'd be mad at me But
31:54
I mean honestly in a seven game series
31:57
Would I pick or bet
31:59
the team? Timberwolves to beat Jokic
32:02
and the Denver Nuggets. I can't do
32:04
that. I mean, Joker's a machine, man.
32:06
And when the prize is right in front of him, he's
32:08
a different kind of machine, you know,
32:11
one that metaphorically just wants to choke the
32:13
life out of your playoff chances. So
32:15
if you mean fraudulent that way, like winning
32:18
the NBA championship, yeah,
32:20
I mean, I guess that's one way to look at it.
32:22
But when you say fraudulent, do you mean like, like,
32:24
what do you mean? I mean, I don't
32:27
think they're the best team in the Western Conference. When
32:29
I compare them against the Nuggets, and I compare
32:31
them even against the OKC Thunder, the
32:34
part that gets me is that Mike
32:37
Conley, 35, 36,
32:39
37-year-old Mike Conley, however old he is, is
32:42
one of the most valuable players on the
32:44
Timberwolves, not because he's
32:46
the most talented, but because he's the
32:49
smartest decision-maker on the roster. Right.
32:52
There's too many turnovers, Edwards even. One
32:55
of the superstars in the league eventually,
32:58
but in decision-making. I mean, I'm with you on
33:00
that, and the league is more wide open this
33:02
year than it's been in quite some time. I
33:04
mean, you got Giannis' group firing
33:06
a coach at the midway point, and they
33:08
got a million wins. I
33:11
like the Celtics, you know, but
33:13
the Tatum, Brown, now Derek White, you
33:15
know, Derek White, man, he's just kind
33:17
of an ultimate wild card for them.
33:20
Poor Zingus is kind of in and out,
33:22
but I mean, the Celtics, you know, this
33:24
could be the year for the Celtics, but
33:26
from a Western Conference standpoint, I honestly don't
33:28
believe that like Golden State's gonna make some
33:30
big temporary lead run this year, you know,
33:32
and now they're going through a lot with
33:34
the death of the assistant coach, which was
33:36
just awful. Phoenix,
33:39
you know, Phoenix with Booker, Durant,
33:41
and Beal, and Nerkich,
33:44
who compliments them well. They
33:46
don't have much of a bench, but I mean, those
33:49
three guys, they're unselfish guys. So
33:51
like when Oklahoma City had Westbrook,
33:53
Harden, and Durant, you know,
33:55
that wasn't the most unselfish group where
33:58
Durant, Booker, and Beal are unselfish and
34:00
Bradley gets to the line a lot, you know, when he plays
34:02
a lot of minutes and he hits them. So
34:04
Phoenix, you know, I believe could be the team to
34:07
beat in the West this year. Um,
34:09
but with Oklahoma city is
34:11
Oklahoma city and the Timberwolves in my
34:13
estimation, Tim, they're the same team for
34:15
different reasons as of right now, you
34:18
know, uh, Gil, just Alexander runs
34:20
the point better than anybody. They have to
34:22
run the point here, but you
34:24
know, they don't really have an Edwards off
34:26
the dribble to do what he does. But
34:29
the thing, and then you talk about the turnovers,
34:31
man, you're in a lead basketball mind. Okay.
34:34
See is number one in the NBA
34:37
at taking the ball, creating
34:39
turnovers and the fewest turnovers.
34:41
That's going to kill the summer. It's going to
34:43
play off time. Yeah. That is in
34:45
playoff time. If they can keep it like that.
34:47
So now when it gets to be
34:50
the playoffs and they don't call the same fouls as
34:52
they do in the regular season and they start to
34:54
get a little physical with SGA and
34:56
giddy hasn't been as good this year as
34:58
he has in the past. Well, now you
35:00
got Jalen Williams and, um, and Isaiah Joe
35:02
and Lou dort and all those guys shooting
35:06
a million three pointers and they're
35:08
really reliant on that. So,
35:10
you know, they, they have their flaws
35:12
the way we have our flaws, but
35:15
they're just a little different, but this
35:17
is a fun Timberwolves team. And
35:20
I just have so much respect, admiration and love
35:22
for Rudy go bare. I've always loved him during
35:24
his career. I, you know, I thought the whole
35:27
situation was awful last year and
35:29
he was really slow getting back on defense
35:31
and then he's throwing punches, the teammates. Yeah.
35:33
I mean, it was, it went pear shaped.
35:36
But this year he's a bonafide team
35:39
leader who has galvanized the whole thing
35:41
and motivates like a
35:43
true leader, block shots, changes shots
35:45
from the weak side, rebounding's off
35:47
the charts right now. So
35:49
I love Stifle Tower and having him
35:52
play the way he's playing right now, that's going
35:54
to help him a lot in the playoffs. Yeah.
35:56
And speaking of the influence of Mike Conley, well,
35:59
you think about. what they had at point guard before
36:01
Mike Connelly and D'Angelo Russell and his relationship with Go-Bear.
36:03
He was literally calling them out in press conferences saying
36:05
how he couldn't catch the ball. Well they trade for
36:08
Mike Connelly and all of a sudden a flip switch
36:10
and we're seeing the Rudy Go-Bear that we saw. I
36:12
mean that had to be one of
36:14
the best Timberwolves trades in history. They trade
36:16
for Casel, they got Spreewell and a whole
36:18
bunch but the impact of Mike Connelly and
36:20
what he's done to Go-Bear and the Timberwolves
36:22
offense and the maturity level that he added
36:24
to the roster has just been insane. Yeah
36:27
well you know one thing that
36:29
and they lost that
36:31
game to Charlotte. Alright now the Hornets
36:34
have beaten the Timberwolves five of the last
36:36
seven times. There are
36:38
teams that sometimes for whatever the reason they
36:40
got this thing against even the good teams.
36:43
Yeah. Unacceptable loss though. Well they jacked around
36:45
with that Washington game too a little bit.
36:47
So what I'm getting at here and you
36:49
know if we got fenced open
36:51
a vein and like you know which is not
36:53
a problem for him he just he'll get straight
36:55
to it. This team
36:58
has a little too much push button to it
37:00
for a team that really hasn't done anything in
37:02
the last 20 some odd year. What I mean
37:04
is they feel like they can push that button
37:06
and just shoot by somebody. Yeah. Just
37:08
beat a bad team and and they've
37:10
gotten caught with that. So
37:13
it's it's a relatively young team in
37:15
certain spots and they're still
37:18
learning but but they can
37:20
beat you in many ways and defensively
37:22
speaking you know when McDaniel's is
37:24
not in foul trouble and he's on point
37:26
and there aren't a lot of picks. There
37:28
aren't many in the league who can get
37:31
around him. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
37:33
Well foul trouble is a
37:35
huge issue for him. I mean if
37:37
he can remain out of foul trouble that's the biggest if
37:39
on the Minnesota's to roll the roster right now because every
37:41
game I pull up the game in
37:44
the third quarter McDaniel's for fouls. You know what there's
37:46
there's one team that I or we haven't mentioned and
37:49
they don't have much on their bench. Like a lot of
37:51
teams don't have a lot on their bench. But
37:54
if Kawhi Leonard is
37:57
healthy and happy in the postseason you
37:59
know Like, why might be nearing the end because of
38:02
all these injuries and everything? He's
38:04
a killer. And, I
38:06
mean, Kawhi is one of the great playoff
38:08
players in the history of the NBA. And
38:11
for anybody who's watched the Clippers of late, and I have,
38:14
it's a different James Harden man. I mean, he's
38:16
not pounding the ball for 15 seconds
38:18
waiting for the pick. It's a
38:20
different Russell Westbrook off the bench. He's
38:23
really accepting of his role. And
38:26
then he got Paul George complimenting Kawhi. But
38:29
these LA Clippers, they're sneakier than people think,
38:31
man. Well, he's the voice of the
38:33
Vikings. He did games for the
38:35
Minnesota Wild. If Alan Horton is gone for a
38:37
game or two, would you fill
38:39
in for the Timberwolves now that they're on
38:41
the KFCN radio network? Rob, that's, you
38:44
know what? You just reminded me that
38:47
Alan invited me to join him for a game.
38:49
I don't know, a quarter a game is the
38:52
analyst or whatever, and I forgot to write back
38:54
to him. Damn. So, thank
38:56
you for reminding me. I
38:58
would fill in for sure if they
39:01
asked me. I've never called an NBA
39:03
game, but I never called NHL games,
39:05
and I know more about the NBA
39:07
than the NHL. And doing those two
39:10
wild games I did a couple of
39:12
years ago from a corner suite for
39:14
Vancouver in Vegas. Holy cow, do I
39:16
have respect for the whole time National
39:19
Hockey League play-by-play guys. You
39:21
just can't come up for air sometimes
39:23
doing those games. It was
39:25
harder than I thought, but what an
39:27
energy trip that was. Yeah, well, I
39:30
produce part of their games for K-fan.
39:32
I go to the Wild studio and
39:34
do part of their games, and Joe,
39:36
the play-by-play voice for the Wild, never
39:38
stops talking. Yeah, he's smart. Yeah,
39:40
he's smart. Yeah, Joe's very smart. I
39:44
really like Joe's call when
39:46
the adversary scores. And
39:49
it's like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and he
39:51
scores. I mean, it's just cool the
39:53
way he does it because I do the same thing
39:55
in the NFL and I just kind of know what
39:57
goes into certain things. And it's,
39:59
you know, Tim here. Paul there, oh
40:01
shoot, rebound and he scores.
40:04
I don't think it's full. Yeah, it really
40:06
takes on the opinions or
40:08
the feelings of the fan base. That's
40:11
the way the fans feel and he scores. They're
40:13
just like this let down, right? Yep.
40:16
And one of the stranger critiques or
40:18
rips or criticisms, I haven't really gotten in
40:20
the last five to ten years but
40:23
it's like Peyton Manning back to
40:25
pass, shakes the shoulders, left fires
40:28
and it's caught by Tim inside the
40:30
ten. Yes. Now, Denver Broncos
40:33
and then people will be like,
40:36
do you have to get so excited when
40:38
the other team scores? That's
40:40
how God wired me. I'm not hoping for the
40:42
other team. It just was a cool play and
40:44
it was Peyton Manning. Ready?
40:47
Omaha. Cool, you
40:49
know? You're right, yeah. Don't forget
40:51
about the ten zillion audibles that he calls
40:53
from the same play. Unbelievable. Oh
40:55
man. You got anything
40:57
else left for me? I mean,
41:01
man, well, thank you for asking
41:03
about my belief in God and
41:06
about my faith and about our
41:09
faith and anybody who heard
41:11
that at the beginning of the podcast and
41:13
if you're mildly interested,
41:16
it's not as hard as
41:18
you think to bring Christ
41:20
into your heart. Praying is
41:23
very important. It's
41:25
reading the Bible is not easy.
41:29
It's quite overwhelming unless
41:31
you try to get your mind and your
41:33
heart into the audience two
41:38
and three thousand years ago where that's
41:41
how they talked. So, from a football
41:43
standpoint, if I'm like right now, so say
41:45
I go back two thousand years, I'm on
41:47
the road to Damascus, Paul is still Saul
41:50
and I'm just chatting with somebody about something
41:52
and I go, you know, that
41:54
skinny post, Brandon Iukran,
41:56
the clock linebacker Jack
41:58
Campbell, flatfoot. that changed
42:00
the whole game. Well, you know, my
42:03
man next to me is gonna be like, what?
42:05
You know, they'd have no idea, but that's
42:08
how we talk now, like in the NFL.
42:10
Well, they, to a certain extent,
42:12
understood what was being written in
42:14
the Bible at that time. And
42:17
their mindset of what the world was like
42:19
at that time is something
42:21
that we can't grasp. So just keep
42:24
that in mind with the
42:26
Lord's Prayer. And then, by the
42:28
way, that's the only place prayer is taught in the
42:30
Bible, in the book of Matthew, when the
42:32
Apostle Peter said to Jesus, teacher, rabbi,
42:34
teaches to pray, and he said, our
42:37
Father art and heaven hallowed be thy name. Just
42:40
remember the thy part of the
42:42
equation, that, you know, living life,
42:45
thy not I, I guess,
42:47
doesn't have to be biblical if you just can't
42:49
get there or God doesn't have you there. But
42:52
a thy not I existence is
42:54
badly needed in the world.
42:56
Just people living for thy
42:58
and not I. And finally,
43:00
you know, a lot of the biblical
43:04
knowledge or scriptural knowledge
43:07
that I have attained in the last five
43:09
years, well, a lot of it I've had to
43:11
be taught. And finding the right types
43:13
of teachers like you, you know, a pastor
43:15
who knows more about the Bible than me.
43:18
And you know, you've probably been
43:20
to seminary and taken thea. I
43:22
graduated with
43:25
a radio broadcasting degree and it was
43:27
one of those God called me into
43:29
a youth pastor situation at our four-year-old
43:31
church. Educated your life to it. Yeah. So,
43:34
you know, don't be
43:36
afraid to seek teachers
43:39
and pray about it. Prayer is very
43:42
prayer in my estimation outside of a
43:44
belief in Christ and a
43:46
recognition of the Trinity when it
43:48
comes to getting to heaven. When it comes to recognizing
43:51
that God
43:56
wrote the Bible for us, not
43:58
to us. And
44:01
when you realize that, you
44:03
know, you get into the Bible and it truly
44:06
is your personal relationship
44:08
with God because He's
44:10
going to reveal things to you in subtle fashion
44:12
that you never knew were coming. You talked about
44:14
it, I felt a lot of them and
44:17
been directed that way. And finally, just
44:20
don't be overwhelmed by the Bible when
44:22
you get into it because there's a
44:25
lot, you know, there's a lot. I
44:27
mean, specifically like from Revelation back to
44:29
the Old Testament and just so many
44:32
things. But, you know, I learned this
44:34
from the late great Dr. Michael
44:37
Heiser, who
44:39
has written books and he's just
44:41
so smart with the Bible. What
44:46
I learned from him in closing is
44:48
there are four profound truths from
44:50
the Bible that obviously are
44:53
key, but it's
44:55
a great starting point, you know, kind of
44:57
like the Bible teaches God wants you to
44:59
know this as a Christian. One,
45:01
God created all
45:03
of this. God
45:06
created everything. Secondly,
45:08
He's the only Creator.
45:11
So like if God were talking, hey, I
45:13
created this and I'm the only
45:15
Creator. Those are two very important
45:17
things. Thirdly, when
45:20
God became man on earth as
45:22
Christ and died on the cross
45:24
for sins that had been or
45:27
taking place or right now or
45:29
will be, that recognizing the significance
45:31
of that sacrifice and everything
45:34
with free and God's will that went into
45:36
it. And then the fourth
45:38
profound truth taught by the Bible, the
45:40
resurrection of Jesus Christ brought the
45:43
Holy Spirit into the world and
45:46
that's guiding us and everything right
45:48
now. So, you
45:50
know, I trust the Bible. Second
45:53
Peter 1 chapter of verses 16 to
45:55
21 has the Apostle
45:58
Peter preaching. to many
46:00
as why he believes in the Bible and
46:02
trusts the Bible. For me,
46:05
there are just too many historical
46:07
accounts that have been accurate over
46:10
the course of two and three
46:12
thousand years with eyewitnesses on top
46:14
of eyewitnesses reporting of supernatural events
46:16
and the historicity of it is
46:18
verified. I got a lot
46:20
of that from Pastor Vodie Baucom who I've heard on
46:22
YouTube and respect a lot. So
46:25
just try to get into it, pray about it,
46:28
and pray again about it, pray to God's will. And
46:32
if and or when the the
46:34
calling happens and you become one
46:37
with Christ God and the Holy Spirit, welcome
46:40
to the best part
46:43
of your lives. Amen.
46:46
Amen to that. Yeah, that's good.
46:48
Yeah, I couldn't tell you this. I mean, it would take me
46:51
too long to tell you the story about how I got called
46:53
in the ministry but graduated with
46:55
a radio degree, got called
46:57
into ministry, still do my radio stuff but part-time
47:00
pastor at our church in the Andover. So Paul,
47:02
I appreciate your kindness and your
47:05
goodness to me over these last few years. We've
47:07
done you know podcasts together about one a
47:09
year for the last who knows how
47:12
long, three, four, five years, something like that.
47:14
And I'm grateful that we've developed this relationship
47:16
that you've shown kindness to me. And
47:18
I remember something he always told me a couple
47:20
years ago. He said, I, Paul, you
47:23
know, just like the Bible, could take
47:26
Timothy under my wing. And
47:28
I've done that. You've done that. So grateful for
47:30
that. So thank you very much. I appreciate you
47:32
taking the time. Thank you, man. And
47:34
I'm here for you. So whether it's March
47:36
10th and Andover, whether you have an LLC
47:38
and you need a little bump, you know,
47:40
because Acts 18 is hitting you,
47:42
you know, where Paul the preacher was like,
47:45
I'm done. This is this is they're all
47:47
over me. I mean, I'm done. And God's
47:49
like you ain't done. Acts 18 is something
47:51
that I share with a lot of pastor
47:53
friends of mine and even even a
47:55
priest friend of mine named father G with whom
47:57
I met for two and a half hours earlier
47:59
this week. Acts 18
48:01
for somebody like you, it's real.
48:04
So if you can't remember it, go back and read
48:06
it when we're done. It's real. I'm
48:08
on the other side of the text or a call. If
48:11
you ever need somebody to remind
48:13
you authentically from their heart, how
48:16
important you are, how much you mean to
48:18
me, and how much you mean to a
48:20
lot of people that you're probably not thinking about right
48:22
now because the last thing the devil wants you to
48:24
do or me to do is to continue what we're
48:26
doing. So I'm here for you.
48:28
And if you ever need a bump with
48:30
that LLC to continue financially or whatever, you
48:32
hit me up, man, I got you. All
48:34
right, appreciate it, Paul. Thank you so much
48:36
for taking the time. And since
48:38
we're referencing Bible verses to each other, Acts 16
48:40
verse 25 to 36, I think it was, the
48:45
Apostle Paul and the prison guard, one of my
48:47
favorite stories in the Bible. Oh
48:49
man, I appreciate it. Well, thank you, Paul. Thank you
48:51
for taking the time. Yep, and
48:53
for everybody who watched and listened, God bless you
48:55
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