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#875: Is the PGA TOUR in trouble?

Thursday, 8th February 2024
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m hmm. All right, Welcome to the Hank Any Podcast,

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Podcast. All Right, Today I'm going to talk

1:21

about some of the news that's happening

1:23

with the PGA Tour and l I V. I

1:25

can't keep track of what's going on. I

1:28

don't know if anybody can. Here's

1:30

what I'm thinking. First off,

1:33

I think the PGA

1:36

Tour and the public investment

1:38

fund, especially the PGA tour, Like

1:41

they need to get this deal done. They

1:43

need to figure out how to get this don I'm listening to Jordan

1:47

Speed and he's telling me,

1:50

you know, he's telling me. I'm watching on

1:52

the Twitter X and he's

1:54

telling me that they don't need it. They

1:57

don't need public investment. And now they got SSG.

1:59

And I saw this thing yesterday where they said

2:01

the SSG they're going to take

2:04

the SSG money, all that

2:06

SSG money that they're going to get,

2:08

like, you know, billion and a half

2:11

dollars, And they sent

2:13

out some memo and

2:15

the memo said that they are

2:17

going to spend like

2:20

nine hundred and some million

2:22

dollars and they're going to give

2:24

it to like a certain amount of players,

2:27

like thirty six players are getting eighty

2:29

percent of the money. I mean, it's it's like it's

2:31

a it's like it's a make good

2:34

like they're they're they're trying to make it good

2:36

for these guys that didn't leave and go to l

2:39

IV Listen, I

2:42

understand they sold

2:44

these guys a bill of goods. They

2:46

told them not to leave. They

2:48

basically are buying them all off.

2:50

Is what is what happened. I mean, you know, by

2:53

by giving them all this money and they are paying

2:55

guys under the table. Everybody knows that.

2:58

Everybody knew it. You know, everybody

3:00

knows who they paid under the table, because they're

3:02

the guys that they wanted to stay and the guys

3:04

that they couldn't afford to lose. They couldn't really afford

3:06

to lose anybody. To be honest with you, but

3:08

to me, they need this more than

3:10

they need anything. They

3:12

need to get this thing settled. Because

3:15

if you look at the PGA Tour and

3:18

you look at the start that they have to the

3:20

year, I mean the start that they

3:22

have to the year so far, I mean,

3:24

this is like, this is something else.

3:27

I mean, I mean really, I mean I hate

3:29

to be this blunt

3:31

and calls about him, but my goodness,

3:34

gracious sakes, alive. I mean, you

3:37

got the Turn Tournament, a champions, century

3:39

tournament, Champions, Chris Kirk wins Now. He's

3:42

a nice guy, a great

3:44

story coming back from alcoholism. It's

3:46

phenomenal. I love it. But

3:49

that's your tournament of Champions. Then

3:51

you follow it up with the Sony Okay,

3:53

you got a Grayson Murray. You got a great

3:56

what most people wouldn't know if

3:58

they saw him in a you know, and

4:00

walking down the street. If

4:02

they were golfers and they saw him

4:05

walking down the street to go to a

4:07

Top Golf interview. You

4:10

know, one hundred people at Top Golf. Ask them how many

4:12

people know who Grace and Murray is. Nobody know who he was,

4:14

wouldn't know. Then you got the Nick Dunlop,

4:16

Whin's the American Express

4:19

great story, college player, first

4:22

college player to win since nineteen,

4:25

you know, ninety one when

4:27

Phil Micholson won his amateur And then we go, I

4:30

gotta listen to everybody. You know, the krupt

4:32

golf media tell you that it's

4:35

so hard to win on the PGA Tour, and

4:37

the players just repeat this over. It's so

4:39

hard to win on the PGA Tour that

4:41

an amateur just did it. That's how hard it

4:43

is to win it. It's so hard to win on the tour that

4:46

Grays and Murray just did it. It's so hard

4:48

to win on the tour that Chris Kirk just did it.

4:50

Then you got the Farmers I'm looking I'm

4:52

looking at my I know you got the Farmers Insurance Classic.

4:54

This used to be Tiger won this tournament every

4:57

year they played it, it seemed like, and

4:59

now this year's champion and John Rom

5:01

won it. You know, John Rome

5:03

wins at Tory Pines. But

5:05

who wins this year? Matthew Peyvon

5:09

Matthew wouldn't know him from

5:11

the man in the moon. Maybe I should know him.

5:13

I mean, I'm talking about golf. I mean, maybe

5:16

he's a household. And he almost won again, he

5:18

almost won the next week. He almost wanted AT

5:20

and T, but Wyndam Clark wanted AT

5:22

and D and Wyndam Clark who was negotiating

5:25

with the l iv up until a

5:27

minute. It seems like he teed off at the at

5:29

the AT and T and then he gets on

5:31

the AT and T and he wins on a

5:34

rain shortened deal. I mean, this is a disaster.

5:37

This turn. No Cut raised the purse

5:39

to twenty million at the AT

5:41

and T. No cut short

5:44

field twenty million dollars to the winner

5:47

fifty four holes because it it got delayed.

5:49

And guess who gets all the world

5:51

Golf ranking points? They do?

5:54

They get all the world govern Like what

5:57

happened? I mean, I thought No Cut

6:00

can't have were ranking points? I thought short

6:02

field can't have no ranking points. I thought fifty

6:04

four holes can't have no ranking points. It's

6:06

just the hypocrisy is incredible.

6:10

So Wyndham Clark negotiates

6:12

with l iv you know, ask

6:15

for one hundred million, only offer

6:17

the only get offer him fifty. And

6:19

then next thing you know, he decides he's PG

6:22

Tour is a better place in his quote

6:25

unquote for his legacy. I

6:27

hate to say this, but if

6:29

you're going to call the l I V And Exhibition

6:31

and say that the wins are meaningless, I

6:33

mean, what come on? I mean, what

6:37

is winning on the PGA Tour worth now?

6:40

I mean even Rory McRoy said it's

6:42

not winning. Ry McElroy, the

6:44

guy who like hates l Ivy, hated l

6:46

Ivy. He's done a flip or flopper, but

6:49

he he he hates liv and

6:52

even he says, even Rory

6:54

says that winning on

6:56

the PGA Tour now is not

6:58

not what it was. So they got fifty four holes

7:01

rained out. That tournament

7:03

used to be an iconic tournament. The

7:05

at and T Pebble Beach from Marco Merrill

7:07

won that tournament like five times. Love

7:10

that tournament. You know, the sponsors

7:13

the love that tournament. The

7:16

celebrities love that tournament. The

7:20

wealthy businessmen love that tournament. They

7:22

used to pay I don't know what they paid, twenty five fifty

7:25

something like that, one thousand dollars to

7:27

fifty thousand dollars something like that, you

7:30

know, twenty five thousand, I don't know. Then they

7:32

had to donate something else. I mean, they

7:34

spent a lot of money supporting the charities.

7:37

They had a two day pro am where's the

7:39

money going to come from? For twenty

7:41

million dollars person? And all the money

7:43

that used to be raised from charity

7:45

for all those pro am partners. They used

7:47

to play three golf courses pro am partners

7:50

out the Kazoo, biggest field on the

7:52

tour. You know, I don't

7:54

know how they had so many players. They couldn't even fill

7:56

the field. Half the time. They're dipping

7:58

down into you know, these lists

8:00

that they didn't even know existed to get the field

8:03

fill. But they were selling out those spots

8:05

because people wanted to play there, and they raised so

8:07

much money for charity. Now that's gone,

8:10

I mean now now now they go

8:12

to Phoenix and the ratings are horrible. I

8:15

mean, like like they talk about l I V's rings.

8:17

L I V has a lot of people. I don't I'm not saying

8:19

they got a lot of people watching them, but they got a lot of people watching

8:21

on online on their app.

8:25

You know, they got people watching that way

8:27

they got you know, they tell you the television rating

8:29

on you know, whatever

8:31

that station is. They're on CW or

8:33

whatever, and it's nothing, I get

8:35

it. But they're on stations all

8:38

over the world. So the

8:40

Krup Gouff media will tell you that they're not doing any

8:42

good. But let's just examine the PGA

8:45

Tours ratings. Oh my god, it's it's

8:47

it's it is. It's going from bad

8:49

to worse. And now this week they're at Phoenix,

8:51

which is my favorite tournament on the PGA Tour. Great

8:53

tournament, phenomenal tournament. Uh

8:56

love the Phoenix Open. Waste

8:58

managment. Phoenix Open as good as it gets raising

9:00

money for charity. But I think number one tournament

9:02

on the PGA Tour in my mind because of the

9:05

amount of money they raise for charity. The

9:07

Thunderbirds do an incredible job running that tournament.

9:10

It's it's phenomenal. But

9:12

you know, talk about bad luck. You

9:15

know, it's like fifty two degrees

9:17

and raining like a you know, it never rains in

9:19

Phoenix. Live there for twelve years, never rains. Next

9:21

week it'll be seventy seventy two degrees

9:23

every day and Sonny, you won't you know, it's

9:26

Sonny three hundred and twenty days a year and

9:28

they've had like five days in a row of clouds

9:30

and it's like fifty four degrees or forty

9:32

four degrees. When they tee off, it's a disaster.

9:35

And like when it rains, it pours. They

9:37

may have enough money to be like brand new

9:39

for a minute, but I gotta kee. I

9:42

got to think to myself that these all

9:44

these sports owners, this SSG that invested

9:46

this money. I got to think that those guys

9:48

are gonna somewhere they want to return. They're

9:50

going to want to return on their investment. They're

9:53

just not, like, you know, giving all this

9:55

money out. So Rory and Speeth and Tiger

9:58

and Scottie Scheffler and

10:00

uh, and they're isn't much else left to be honest

10:03

with, Showy Maybe can't Lee, I mean,

10:06

come on, Uh, they're

10:08

giving out all this money just so those guys won't

10:10

jump over to l Iv, I just

10:13

don't see it. I mean, they have

10:15

the whole thing needs to be figured out.

10:18

The whole thing needs to be restarted, and they need

10:20

they need this public investment fund because

10:23

they have to unite golf. Golf

10:25

has to be united. It cannot go

10:28

on like it is. And if it does keep going

10:30

on like it is, l IV is gonna win that

10:32

They got the bot, they got the pockets, they

10:35

got the money. They can do whatever they want.

10:37

If you're if you're if you don't unite

10:39

with them and come up with a plan

10:42

and make it so that they they it's

10:44

all won. Golf is all one, and all these players

10:46

that aren't qualified for the major

10:48

championships because of this official

10:50

World Golf rankings, that's just another travesy.

10:53

They got to get it all figured out. They got

10:55

to figure it out fast, a

10:57

lot faster than they think. They got to figure it out.

11:00

Got to get this this thing thing figured out. Now. I

11:02

listened to Speek and he's saying, no, we don't

11:04

really need those guys. And then I listened

11:06

to you know, and of course the krup Goff media

11:08

is interviewing, well, do you want those guys to come

11:10

back and of course. Of course they're saying no,

11:12

and Justin Thomas is saying no, and

11:15

Speech's saying no, and Ricky

11:17

Fowler's saying no. Of course they are they

11:19

alter it. What do you think they're gonna say? What

11:21

do you think they're gonna say? You know, the

11:24

krup Goolf media asked these guys what their

11:26

opinion is? What do you think their opinion

11:29

is? What would your opinion be if

11:31

you turned down one hundred million dollars,

11:33

If you turned down one hundred million dollars, you'd

11:35

want So are they thinking of what's best

11:38

for the PGA tour? No, Rory

11:41

is Rory says they

11:43

should be able to come back. Why is Rory

11:45

saying that? Because Rory got

11:48

paid, he didn't lose all the money

11:50

these other guys lost. They dished

11:52

them a work workday contract. Who

11:54

knows what they paid them under the table. You know they

11:56

did, you know they

11:59

they made it right for him, And he

12:02

realizes that this this

12:04

whole thing is not good. He realizes

12:06

it's not good. So now he's saying, hey,

12:09

we got to let these guys play, We got to

12:11

unite golf and Rory. Now, Rory

12:14

was the guy that was totally against everything,

12:16

hated everything, and you

12:19

know, l Iv can't stand it. I

12:21

hope they go away this

12:23

and that. Now all of a sudden, he's like, you know,

12:25

he's like, he looks like he's sitting on the fence.

12:28

You know what wouldn't surprise me at all

12:31

if they don't get this thing organized and

12:33

they lose, you know, even

12:36

anybody else. I mean, pick them,

12:39

pick them. I mean, I don't know who's left.

12:42

Rory Scheffler speak,

12:45

I mean speaks that justin Thomas.

12:47

Those guys are twentieth player in the world. I mean

12:50

they're they're not They're not moving

12:52

any needle. I mean, Tiger's forty

12:54

eight years old. Golf

12:57

needs a remake, Golf needs to be rebuilt.

12:59

And I'm sure it'll be fine. I've said

13:02

it's gonna be fine. I think they'll figure the whole

13:04

thing out. But I don't

13:06

understand these pros, Like these guys

13:08

seem like they're running the show now, like like

13:11

like do they really know what they're doing? I

13:13

mean, I know they think they know what they're doing, but

13:15

do they really know what they're doing? Oil

13:18

Boy? I don't know. I would

13:20

I would, I would I wouldn't bet

13:22

on it. I wouldn't bet on it. So

13:26

Rory says they should come back. Speece says

13:28

they shouldn't come back. Justin Thomas

13:30

says they shouldn't come back. They got

13:33

to figure out something, and they better figure

13:35

it out fast. That's that. That that that

13:37

we know because if they don't, if

13:39

they don't, l i V will just snatch

13:42

somebody else and uh,

13:44

you know, they'll keep on their merry way. And

13:47

l I V needs it too, because they, you know, they gotta

13:49

they gotta make some money. They got

13:52

to figure out how to make some money. And they're boxed

13:54

out and they're boxed out on the television

13:56

contracts and they're boxed out on this other stuff.

13:58

So you know, sponsor, so they got they

14:00

needed to. Everybody needs it. Just

14:03

just put it together, get

14:05

it done, and golf will be

14:08

better than it's ever been. But it's gonna

14:10

take a little while. It's gonna take a little while.

14:13

And the problem is there

14:16

is an absence, there is an

14:18

absence of of

14:20

of names in golf. I mean golf. You

14:22

know, there's no Tiger Woods, there's

14:25

no time. You know, Nick Dunlop, he's like you know, maybe

14:27

he's gonna be Tiger Woods. He won the Farmer's

14:29

Insurance Open as an amateur, and

14:32

he teed it up at the at and T Pebble

14:34

Beach uh for his second

14:36

tournament and to

14:38

finish DFL DFL. I'm

14:41

not saying he's not a great player, not saying he's not gonna

14:43

be a great player. Maybe he's gonna be the Maybe

14:45

he is going to be the next you know, Phil Micholson.

14:48

He ain't gonna be next Tiger Woods. There ain't gonna be another Tiger

14:50

Woods. But he maybe he's gonna be the next

14:52

next Phil Micholson. But it's gonna take

14:54

people a while to know who he

14:56

is and to see who he is. And and you

14:59

got to win majors because that's it,

15:01

you know. I mean, you can win a PGA Tour event. What's

15:03

the what's what? What's winning

15:05

a PJ Tour event? I mean nowadays,

15:08

just be honest, come on, be fair.

15:11

It's so devalued. You

15:14

can't sell me on this. Stop telling

15:16

me how hard it is to win on the PGA Tour.

15:18

Stop telling me about the legacy of

15:20

winning on the PGA Tour. It's just

15:23

not there. The legacy is

15:25

winning, and it's hard to win majors. Maybe

15:27

not, maybe not, because if they don't let these guys

15:29

in there, you know, let the all these

15:31

guys l i V guys playing these majors, it's

15:33

gonna be easier never to win a major too. It's

15:36

just a disaster. And they gotta fix

15:39

it. And I think they will, but

15:42

you know what, who knows if

15:45

they don't and they don't fix it, oh,

15:49

Katie bar the door, you

15:52

know, just forget about it, you

15:54

know, l i V. Then they

15:56

don't want the Saudis to take over. You

15:59

better make a deal with them or they will take over. And

16:01

that that that is is very

16:04

obvious to to Uh. I think you

16:06

know anybody that that that looks

16:08

with an open mind, I mean that you know, you better

16:10

partner with them because if you don't, they're

16:13

going to destroy you. And they you know, they're they're

16:15

they're doing a good job of it so far that

16:18

you watch that term of that l i V tournament down

16:20

there at Mayacoba. Me got John Rahm,

16:23

you got Joaquin Neeman, you

16:26

got uh, you know, Sergio Garcia.

16:29

Compare the leader boards. People,

16:31

compare the leader boards. It's

16:34

no comparison. Forget

16:36

about what the krup golf media tells you. It's

16:39

no comparison because I hate

16:41

l I V. And now I'll never watch l I V. Well

16:44

watch it and just watch it once,

16:46

you know what I mean. So I watched it, I didn't like it. Well,

16:49

what you see more golf shots? You

16:52

know, all you see is commercials everywhere on the

16:54

PGA Tour. You see more golf shots,

16:56

and you see you know what you see. You see

16:58

players you might have heard of. Look

17:01

at the Phoenix Open. That's a big tournament.

17:03

What do you got? You got Scheffler, Uh,

17:06

you got Foller, you got

17:08

uh Speith, you got a Matthew

17:11

Fitzpatrick. What else you got?

17:13

Let me let me look at that. Who else you got? You

17:16

got? No way? You got?

17:17

Uh?

17:18

You got Wyndham Clark. You got

17:20

Adam Scott. If Adam Scott was playing on l

17:22

I V, they tell you he was washed up over the hill. That's

17:25

what they tell you. You go to l I V. You

17:27

got, you got d Chambeau, you got Michelson,

17:29

you got you got Garcia, you got

17:32

rom you got you

17:34

got a Taylor Goots, you got a Dustin Johnson.

17:36

You got a brooks Kepka. My god, you got a brooks

17:38

Kapka. I don't even name him brooks

17:40

Kapka. It's not a comparison.

17:43

And and and the PGA Tour. He has

17:46

so many tournaments. They

17:48

here's their problem. Well, they got

17:51

a lot of problems, but here's there. Here's one of their problems.

17:53

They got so many tournaments that

17:56

their players don't play everywhere,

17:59

so there's lit up and

18:01

as a result, the

18:04

fields are gonna They're terrible anyways,

18:06

but now they're going to be even worse because players

18:09

don't play all the tournaments. But l i V. Every

18:11

player on l i V plays the tournaments,

18:13

so they're there, and you

18:15

know what their field's gonna be. It's gonna be the same field

18:17

it was last time. You know, maybe they throw

18:20

in a new individual or something, but

18:22

this gonna be the same field they had last time. So anyway,

18:24

that's just that's just the way it is, you know. And

18:26

uh and I'll tell you what they

18:29

got to fix it, and you know, hopefully they will.

18:31

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