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I'm gonna tell it like it really is.

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We know Haney doesn't give us silencing

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too chips never except on't

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shoulders to get better. Everybody

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knows the name, read about it

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or golf Teachers Hall of Fame, never

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doubt it. It's time for the truth. He is

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our Do you listen in the Hany?

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You listen in the Hany, You

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listen in to Hany. It's

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hmm. Hello everyone, Hank Haney here, Welcome

1:02

to the Hank Haney Podcast. I

1:04

am recording on nofilter dot

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Apple, wherever we get your podcasts. Podcast

1:28

is brought to you by Haniuniversity dot

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com. That is my website. That's

1:32

where you go to find out information about

1:35

lessons from me. If you are

1:37

so inclined, and

1:40

I've been teaching up a storm,

1:42

having a great time, teaching a lot of great

1:44

You know, I did a podcast the today

1:47

and I talked about how my career has gone

1:49

like full circle. And I have to

1:51

tell you, you know, when you're a teacher,

1:54

people think I only like you know, especially

1:56

when you've worked with touring pros, and obviously I've worked

1:58

with the best of the best, but people

2:00

will will think, oh, he just wants to work

2:02

with good players or players

2:05

with a lot of talent. I like

2:07

to help anybody. I mean, I get

2:09

the most enjoyment out of help in beginning golfers,

2:12

because I feel like, you know, you're

2:14

you're creating a golfer somebody

2:16

that's gonna, you know, love the

2:18

game and be into the game. So anyway

2:20

that the uh, the

2:23

thought is is that anybody

2:26

who loves golf is a friend of mine. I

2:28

appreciate you listening to the podcast today.

2:31

I want to talk about some of the news

2:33

that has come out. Well, of course that the

2:35

the uh PGA Tour is

2:38

playing UH this week

2:40

down and UH it's the

2:42

Cognizant or something it used to be the

2:44

hond Of course, Honda bailed UH

2:47

on the tournament down there, in Palm Beach and

2:50

they've got ry McElroy playing

2:53

this week. If the fields have been awful, I

2:55

mean, they got issues. I mean you can,

2:57

you can call it whatever

2:59

you want, but let me tell you

3:01

something. They got issues, and they

3:04

know they got issues. You know, the corrupt

3:06

golf media tries to cover it up as best they

3:08

can. And they are in full swing right

3:10

now, the corrupt golf media. I mean, they are

3:12

swinging for the fences. They are

3:15

besides themselves and everything that's

3:17

coming out. But let's

3:19

just look at the Mexican Open. Did you see

3:21

that. I can't tell you the amount of

3:25

texts and emails I get from people

3:27

saying, like, Hank, what

3:30

is the deal with this leaderboard? Who

3:32

are these players? These

3:35

guys could be in the witness protection plan,

3:37

Nobody knows who they are. And

3:39

the ratings are horrific,

3:43

I mean absolutely horrific.

3:45

And don't but no, no,

3:48

no matter what you do, no

3:50

matter what you do, do not try

3:52

to tell me this is

3:54

Hank you're talking to here. Do not try

3:57

to tell me that it is

3:59

hard to win on the PGA Tour. It has never

4:01

been easier to win on the PGA

4:03

Tour. Mexican Open. Saturday's

4:07

Round on NBC

4:10

down twenty three percent. Sunday's

4:13

round, Final Round Mexican Open

4:15

down forty nine percent.

4:19

They have got to figure something

4:21

out. Golf is good that the professional

4:23

golf is going to have a total restructure, there

4:26

is no doubt about it. Let's face it, there's

4:29

too many tournaments. I read this. I was reading

4:31

this article about how the guys

4:33

on the corn Ferry Tour, which is the

4:36

tour you play your way onto the PGA

4:38

Tour with. You get thirty guys

4:40

each year get from the corn Ferry Tour to the

4:42

PGA Tour. And these guys aren't getting

4:44

in tournaments. Of course, you got

4:46

the signature events. They can't get in. They're

4:48

not getting in the tournaments that they should be getting

4:50

in, or they think they're getting in, or they hope

4:53

they're getting in. Nobody's

4:55

happy about this. I talked

4:57

about it the other day. Players

5:00

are playing less. That's what they're gonna

5:02

do when they make more money. And this

5:05

is my biggest thing I think

5:07

is a big issue. You

5:10

know, they raise the persons, they

5:12

raise the amount of money everybody's making. People

5:15

are making all this money over there, the guys

5:17

that went to l iv are making all this money,

5:20

and I watch

5:22

these PG Tour players talking about

5:24

how we don't want those guys to come back

5:27

to the PGA Tour. They

5:30

don't want to come back to the

5:32

PG Tour. What is it that people don't understand

5:34

about this? How can you not understand

5:37

this simple, simple situation

5:41

When players get paid more

5:43

money they've got and they've got

5:46

more money than they know what to do with. They're

5:48

they're financially set. Now what

5:50

do they want? You think they want more

5:52

money? Like? Like, show me a guy

5:55

that that you know, makes

5:57

twice the amount of money he was making and

6:01

still wants to work just as hard and

6:03

worked just as many days, few

6:06

and farm. There's some of them. I mean, there's

6:08

Michael Jordan, there's Kobe Bryant,

6:10

there's you know, Tom Brady. I mean, they're

6:13

out there. I'm not saying they're not. You

6:15

know, no matter how much money Tiger Woods made,

6:17

he still worked his butt off. But

6:20

most people, most people,

6:22

the majority of people, when

6:24

they get to a certain amount of income,

6:27

they now they start thinking about their

6:29

lifestyle. And that's

6:32

where you are. These players

6:34

that are playing on the l Ivy Tour.

6:37

They don't want to come back

6:39

to the PGA Tour. Jordan

6:41

Speed can say they don't, they shouldn't come

6:43

back. Scottie Scheffer can say

6:45

they shouldn't come back. You can say whatever you

6:47

want, but they don't want to

6:49

come back. They're playing fourteen

6:52

o IVY events. They'll play the four

6:54

majors, and that's the subject

6:56

we'll get into about them. You know, players getting

6:58

in the majors and then they're going to play

7:00

maybe a couple other events and they're good.

7:03

That's twenty tournaments, good

7:05

to go. You know, NFL they

7:07

play, you know, seventeen weeks.

7:10

Okay, PG Tour, they're playing twenty

7:12

weeks, like I just said, and that's three

7:15

more than the NFL. NFL plays a

7:17

couple exhibition games. But guys don't even

7:19

play those PG Tour.

7:21

You play twenty weeks, and you play

7:25

four days of tournaments, and

7:27

you know, you got eighty days of work.

7:30

Guess how many basketball games they play in a year?

7:33

They play like eighty two games a year. They

7:35

play eighty two NHL games. Here,

7:38

that's a good season right there. Twenty

7:41

weeks, twenty one weeks, twenty

7:43

two weeks for a professional athlete

7:46

that is plenty. Maybe some years

7:48

you play a few more. But to

7:51

think that these liv players want

7:53

to come back and play a full schedule

7:55

on the PGA Tour, it's just it's it's

7:58

ridiculous, Like they don't want to do that. Guys,

8:01

that's not going to happen because they don't

8:03

even care about doing it. They don't

8:05

want to do it. I

8:08

want to talk about this. They're interviewing Rory McRoy

8:11

down there at the Honda, Well it's not the Honda, it's

8:13

a cognizant. They're they're interviewing

8:15

him down there, and uh, you

8:17

know the questions. He knows the question is going to come

8:19

up because the article

8:22

came out with Chubby Chandler, who used to

8:24

be his agent, and I still is I

8:26

still think they're they're you know, friends.

8:29

Chubby has represented a lot of players over

8:31

the years, Lee Westwood,

8:33

Darren Clark, a lot, a lot of great players,

8:36

great European players. If you're a great

8:38

European player back in the day, you

8:40

got Chubby Chandler to represent you. The guy

8:42

is very very well connected in golf,

8:45

and he knows, he knows everybody

8:47

in golf. Let's just let's just put it that way. He

8:50

made the comment that Rory mclroy

8:53

has changed his tune and

8:55

he's posturing himself and and and that's

8:57

been very obvious. Remember

8:59

at the begin the air when Rory made

9:01

the comment, he said, in the last

9:04

two years, I have taken a very very

9:06

altruistic approach to

9:08

my thinking. And I thought that the

9:11

world should be and he's talking about the

9:13

golf world. I thought the golf world should

9:15

be what I hoped

9:17

it would be. Not now all of

9:19

a sudden, he's changed his tune and he's

9:21

and then you know, John Rohm left, and you

9:24

know, I can't blame a guy for making a decision.

9:26

And uh, you know the great

9:29

tweet by Jenna Simms Brooks.

9:31

Brooks kept his wife at the

9:33

beginning of the year and when she said new year,

9:36

knew Rory. I was a

9:38

little down on Rory. I gotta admit too

9:40

much negative talking about l I V.

9:43

I'm gonna give him a little credit here. He's

9:46

coming around. He's not so

9:48

negative now and Mefic is very positive,

9:50

even backed up you know Taylor

9:53

Gooch when they were talking, asking Hi about that, because Taylor

9:55

Gooch said, if the best players aren't in the

9:57

majors, then then you

10:00

should put an asterisk there. And and

10:02

by the way, Taylor Gooch is a is

10:04

a good player. I mean, come on, people, he

10:07

was. He was top thirty when

10:09

he went to l i V. Now he's like two hundred

10:12

and fiftieth or something because of the corrupt

10:14

World Golf rankings. He won

10:16

three times last year on l i V. He

10:19

was l i V Player of the Year. I mean, are you telling

10:21

I mean, come on, are you seriously telling

10:23

me that Taylor goot shouldn't be in the Masters,

10:26

that he's not one of the best players in

10:28

the world, that he shouldn't be in the I mean

10:30

that that's ridiculous. And even

10:32

Rory, you know, tried to kind of explain

10:35

because they twisted the krup Golf media twists

10:37

the quotes all out. You know, they pick a little thing,

10:39

you know, and you know, Taylor

10:41

Goood said there should be an asterisk of the players,

10:44

but you know, it was a whole wide ranging interview.

10:46

Of course, they just picked the one sound. They love to do that,

10:49

you know, that's how they do. You know, everybody

10:51

knows that's how they do. It's a game they play

10:53

it's corrupt, and they know who

10:55

they are, all the krup Golf media, they know who they are. But

10:58

this is this, this is Rory backing

11:01

them up. And Rory's

11:03

just done the total flip flopper. He's

11:06

positioning himself where

11:09

he's basically when he makes

11:12

a comment, okay, when he says,

11:15

you know, last two years, I've taken an altruistic

11:17

view of things and that probably wasn't

11:19

right. When he says John

11:21

ram should be on the Ryder Cup, when

11:24

he says Taylor Gooch, you

11:27

know, this is what he probably

11:29

you know, mint or whatever,

11:31

and you know it doesn't pile right on him.

11:34

And when he does all this stuff, those

11:37

are all signals that

11:39

he is open for business. That send

11:42

me the offer and let me take

11:44

a look at it. Anybody who doesn't

11:47

think this is the case is just

11:49

got their head in the sand. So

11:52

they asked Rory what about

11:55

Chubby Chandler's comments,

11:58

and of course Chubby

12:00

said that you know Rory is is

12:03

it's a good chance he's going to l iv based

12:06

on the way he's talking. And

12:08

then at the end of the interview with Chubby Chandler

12:10

he said, well, there's maybe a ten percent chance.

12:13

And then they asked Rory, and Roy knows this questions

12:16

coming. He said, weeks to think

12:18

about. Okay, how am I going to answer this

12:20

question? And he comes with,

12:23

well he might Chubby Chandler might

12:25

know us. He might so know

12:27

some things. He might know some things.

12:30

All right, Now that's you know, the krrupt

12:32

gooff. Media says,

12:35

you know, they write in their article, well,

12:38

you don't know how serious he was when he said that.

12:42

Well you knew how serious he was when he was

12:44

ripping the l IV and said he wished they

12:46

would go away and hated him and everything

12:48

else. And now all of a sudden, his tunes are change, and now

12:51

it is tunes a changing. Everybody says, well, you don't

12:53

know how serious he was. Let me tell you something.

12:55

It's not hard to tell how serious he was. That

12:58

means something. So he said Chandler

13:00

might know a few things. And then they asked

13:03

Rory about the percentages.

13:05

He said, you know, Chubby Chandler said there's

13:07

a chance you were going to l IV based

13:09

on the way you were talking. And Rory

13:11

says, he might know a few things. Then they

13:14

ask him, you know, but he said

13:16

the percentage was like ten percent you

13:19

know, but at first he said the percentage

13:21

was pretty high, and Rory comes with, well,

13:24

you know, it might be somewhere in between.

13:26

It might be somewhere in between ten percent and

13:29

pretty high. What

13:31

does that mean when most

13:33

people would

13:36

hear that, I think they would think

13:39

they're getting close to my number.

13:42

Maybe I need a little more time to back

13:45

myself out of the hole I was in

13:48

because I was Rory,

13:50

don't have any problem apologize and Chubby

13:52

Chandler said that, or you know, hey, I had

13:55

things wrong. I Rory

13:58

said that goff needs to be a globe game. This

14:00

is this, it's it's gonna it's gonna

14:02

end up that way. The PGA

14:04

Tour is going to be a mess for a couple of years until

14:07

this thing gets figured out. Schedules are

14:09

set, and this and that. Rory, what's worry?

14:12

Thirty five years old? I mean, how many more years

14:14

does does he have? I mean, I yeah, I know

14:16

he could win until he's in his forties there,

14:18

But realistically, realistically,

14:21

when you're a thirty five year old professional

14:23

athlete, forget about a forty eight year old professional

14:25

athlete, and Tiger Woods, a thirty five year

14:27

old professional athlete the end

14:30

is closer than the beginning. It's

14:32

just it's just is golf. You can play a lot longer,

14:34

but the end is closer than the beginning.

14:37

And if years

14:39

get wasted, you know. And

14:42

I think everybody's pretty much realizes

14:44

now that this whole

14:47

play for the legacy stuff was just

14:50

a bunch of balogney to begin with.

14:52

Every tournament's an exhibition except

14:54

for the majors. Uh Rory's

14:57

got four majors. He's looking for a fifth.

14:59

He's it's been forever since he's won one.

15:02

He's he's in the Hall of Fame. He's played

15:04

in a million million, uh you

15:06

know, Ryder Cups. Why wouldn't

15:09

he take the money? What could

15:11

he possibly be thinking by

15:13

not taking the money? And you

15:16

know why he didn't take the money because he

15:18

had this altruistic view, like you said.

15:21

And they also funneled them a bunch

15:23

of money, you know, the PGA Tour

15:25

did. And then they set up that TGL,

15:27

which was the you know, Simulator Golf

15:29

League, and they had that thing going until the tent blew

15:31

down because there was just a tent in Florida that they're

15:34

going to have this thing in it blew down in a storm

15:36

and that got pushed back, and

15:40

you know he still got that where he if

15:43

he stays, he makes all that money on

15:45

that. Obviously something's

15:47

changed with Rory, you

15:50

know what, It wouldn't surprise me in the least.

15:52

And I for the corrupt

15:54

golf media that thinks the l IV is going

15:56

away, I mean they

15:59

are not going away, and

16:01

the whole tour is going to get restructured,

16:04

the PGA Tour, because it is it

16:06

is not good right now. It is even

16:09

the signature events. I mean

16:11

there are no nothing signature about

16:13

those ratings. You

16:15

know, even when Tiger played for

16:18

a day and a half, those ratings were not

16:20

good. And it's it's gonna be a it's

16:22

gonna be a tough go. But I think

16:24

things will work out. I really do.

16:27

Uh. I think it's gonna be. I think in two

16:29

years we're gonna look back and there's

16:31

gonna be some kind of global tour. I think

16:33

Rory knows when he says that GOFF needs

16:35

to have a global tour, there's gonna be a global tour.

16:38

You know what I think is gonna happen. All these other

16:41

tours are going to feed into one

16:44

tour. With the with the best players,

16:46

and maybe not the best players because

16:48

it may take you a while to qualify for this tour.

16:52

So I don't think they're all the best players, but

16:55

I think they're gonna be the best known

16:58

players. Know it used

17:00

to be It used to be that

17:03

when you want a major and

17:05

people look at majors and they think, oh, you win

17:07

a major, you make all this money,

17:10

Well you get no, you get the notoriety.

17:13

What comes with notoriety money

17:16

endorsements. So from a players

17:18

standpoint, one of the

17:20

main reasons and I taught

17:23

touring pros for thirty five years, one

17:26

of the main reasons that pros wanted

17:28

to win major championships is

17:30

because they knew that would set them up

17:33

with endorsements and appearances

17:35

for a long time, probably the rest of their

17:38

career. Okay, one of the reasons

17:40

they wanted to be, you know, a captain of

17:42

a Ryder Cup team is because they knew it would set

17:44

them up with endorsements and appearances

17:48

for a pretty a long time, maybe the rest of

17:50

their career. That's that's just the fact.

17:53

I think what's going to happen is you win

17:55

a major, and that's

17:58

going to get you on the

18:01

Notoriety Tour, where

18:03

where the best players are

18:05

not just the best players, but the maybe the

18:07

best known players. You know, because a lot of people

18:10

are critical of the l i V. They got players

18:12

all this guy's over the hill. Yeah,

18:14

well maybe a little bit. Yeah,

18:16

but he won a major. People know who he is.

18:19

Maybe there's a guy over there on the corn ferry

18:21

that is better player than this guy. I don't

18:23

know. Nobody, nobody knows who the guy is. Nobody

18:26

wants to watch the guy. Nobody has any

18:28

inkling to watch the guy. Nobody's going to tune

18:30

into TV to watch the guy. Uh.

18:33

They're not watching the Mexican Open, they're

18:35

not watching the American Express, they're not watching

18:37

anything. But they'll watch this guy because they saw

18:39

him win the Masters, they saw

18:41

him win the Open. And matter of fact, you know what, this has

18:43

already happened. This has already

18:45

happened. Cam Smith won the the

18:48

the Open Championship, and where'd he go? He went to

18:50

l i V. And you know what, it's

18:52

already happened. John Raum

18:55

won the Masters, and where'd he go? He went

18:57

to l IV. You're gonna

18:59

you're gonna win a big

19:01

tournament. You're going to become a known

19:03

player, and

19:06

then you're going to set yourself up

19:08

to go play someplace where you can make

19:10

a bunch of money. Isn't

19:13

that kind of like other sports where

19:15

you get your first contract, you

19:19

go out and play really good in your first

19:22

few years in the league. Hockey,

19:24

basketball, football, baseball,

19:27

you play and then you reach free agency.

19:30

And when you reach free agency, what

19:33

does every single

19:36

player do they

19:38

sign with any team?

19:42

Do they pick a team out and say I

19:44

can win the championship with this team. Players

19:47

who are on their first attempt,

19:49

their first go around, their first round

19:52

of free agency, do they sign

19:55

with a team that they think can

19:57

win the championship? Maybe some have Maybe

20:00

there's two offers they have. Maybe

20:02

there's this offer and this offer, and these

20:04

teams are close in offer,

20:07

and this team's a better team. I'll go with this team.

20:11

But let me tell you something. If they're

20:13

not close, if that offer is not close, and

20:17

in a lot of cases even if it is close,

20:19

they are going to take the highest offer. And

20:21

that's what they do. And the same

20:24

thing is going to happen in golf

20:26

that had happened in these other sports. It's

20:28

the same exact thing. And when players

20:30

win, when players get known and

20:32

they build themselves up, they are

20:34

going to take that opportunity to better

20:37

themselves financially, for

20:39

themselves and for their family. And

20:41

that's just what's going to happen. And

20:43

this whole legacy thing that everybody

20:45

talks about is just a bunch of it's

20:47

a bunch of baloney. Wyndham

20:50

Clark, Wyndom Clark won the US

20:52

Open last year. Another example, Wyndham

20:55

Clark wins the US Open and

20:57

they're talking to them at all. Everybody knows. They talkalk

21:00

to him at LIV. They talked to him at l

21:02

IV. He wanted a hundred million something like

21:04

that. I heard that, you know, maybe it's not true.

21:06

I don't know, it's kind of what I heard. No,

21:09

no, we're not giving you a hundred million. What

21:11

about seventy five? No, no, we're not giving you a safe

21:13

fun Then

21:16

they maybe we'll give you fifty, and they didn't like

21:18

the fifty. So then he comes

21:20

back with I want to play in the PGA

21:22

Tour for my legacy.

21:26

He talked to his agent. He

21:29

figured out that if he stays on the PGA

21:31

Tour, he can make he can stay

21:33

comfortable there and he can make just about the same

21:35

amount of money. And you know

21:37

what, that's what he ended up

21:39

doing. But he became

21:42

a free agent and

21:45

took a different offer. That's

21:47

the same thing in every single sport,

21:49

and it's going to be the same thing

21:51

in golf too. Same thing. And you know

21:53

what, sometimes, you know what happens when you sign a

21:55

free agent. You sign a free agent

21:58

to a big contract, and

22:00

sometimes they don't play any good. They got

22:03

their contract. Maybe

22:05

it was a great year that got him that contract.

22:07

Maybe it was a great two years that got him that contract.

22:09

Maybe it was one great half a season that got

22:11

him that contract. Guy, he had a lot of sacks this year

22:13

and he got him I got a big contract. The next year,

22:16

never produced again. It happens all the time.

22:18

And you know when in golf, a guy could go out there and say,

22:20

you know, he has a great year and he plays good, and he wins

22:22

a major championship, or he you know, finishes

22:25

here or there on the you know, PGA

22:27

Tour, and the next thing, you know, the next year, you

22:30

know, he signed somewhere l iv

22:32

or whatever, and then he you know, he doesn't

22:35

doesn't play as good that can happen. I'm

22:37

watching the NHL trade deadline right

22:39

now, and they got these players that are you

22:41

know, guys, you know, thirty five years

22:44

old. He's making this much money, He's

22:46

got this much years left on his contract.

22:49

You know, he got to pay him this much. How many good

22:51

years does he have left? It

22:53

happens in every single sport, but

22:55

in golf, they're going off

22:57

of people watching

23:00

and people you know, coming

23:03

to see uh, you know, in

23:06

person, and they'd like

23:08

to see somebody that maybe they might

23:10

have seen before or

23:13

might have heard of. I watched that Mexican

23:15

Open. I don't even know any of those guys.

23:18

And I mean I follow golf a lot.

23:20

I don't know those guys. From the Man

23:22

in the Moon I got to I go down the lit I found Tony

23:24

Finow, you know. But but

23:26

other than that, oh my gosh. I think

23:29

there's big changes coming. I really do. And

23:32

uh, oh boy,

23:36

if Rory mclroy, if

23:38

they get if l I V gets

23:41

Rory macrel roy,

23:43

Oh oh oh, Katie

23:47

bar the door. I mean it's already Katie

23:49

by the door. But they can't they can't admit

23:52

it. All right, Hope everybody enjoyed the podcast,

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