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going to talk about well,

1:52

this week is the

1:55

Tournament Players Championship.

1:57

Now, this was going to be the

2:00

YOURRS dream of being the

2:03

fifth major. First

2:05

off, the Players Championship

2:08

was never going to be a fifth major because

2:12

there's only four majors. There's

2:14

the Masters, the Open Championship,

2:18

the PGA Championship, and the

2:20

US Open. There's never going

2:22

to be a fifth major. And now they're for sure

2:25

is never going to be a fifth major because

2:28

the field that the Players Championship

2:31

was always considered the

2:34

best field in golf, or

2:37

so they said. And now

2:40

without the LIV players, the

2:43

field is extremely weak.

2:46

And you've seen this weekend and

2:48

week out on the PGA Tour.

2:51

They are missing the talent

2:54

that has gone to the LIV. Everybody

2:57

knows it. Everybody's talking about this

3:00

is the Player's Championship week.

3:02

And I go on ESPN dot

3:06

com and I click on their

3:08

Golf section and the first

3:10

story that's listed is Golf

3:14

Unification deal needs

3:16

to speed up from

3:19

Roy Macroy. The second

3:21

article is Scotti Scheffler

3:24

goff splintering due

3:26

to LIV defectors. The

3:29

third story is Bernhard Langer

3:31

reveals Achilles injury was

3:34

from pickleball. The fifth

3:37

story or the fourth story, j Monahan

3:40

says public Investment

3:42

Fund deal speeding up best

3:45

for the sport. The next

3:48

story is Read's major

3:51

start talking about Patrick Reed reads

3:53

major streak at risk at

3:56

the PGA Championship. First

3:58

off, Patrick Reid is an LIV

4:01

player. Now he won the

4:03

Masters. That's his one major,

4:06

and he's a top thirty player

4:08

in the world if he was playing in all

4:10

these PGA Tour events. But because

4:13

he's on livetur and they don't get any points,

4:15

he's who knows where he is two hundredth or

4:17

something and his major

4:19

streak is at risk. And

4:21

then you get down to the one,

4:24

two, three, four, five, sixth

4:26

story and it says Scottie

4:29

Scheffler is grouped with Ricky

4:31

Fowler and

4:34

Justin Thomas at the Players.

4:36

That just shows you where GoF is. Right

4:39

there. Scotty Scheffer, the

4:41

number one player in the world,

4:44

just won the Bayhill Arnold Palmer Invitational

4:47

by five shots. Dust

4:49

of the field absolutely does

4:52

the first good putting week of the year one hundred and

4:54

fortieth and putting, putts good and

4:56

wins. And by the way, he is such a good ball

4:58

striker. Last year he won the

5:00

Arnold Palmer Bayhill Invitational, which

5:03

it can happen on this kind of golf course because it's a

5:05

hard golf course, Tita Green,

5:07

But he finished forty eighth and putting

5:10

and won the tournament by five shots.

5:13

Now this year he actually putt it better one again

5:15

by I think five shots. I don't know he

5:18

does to the field. I have trouble keeping track

5:20

of this because frankly it's hard to watch

5:22

now. Ratings for the Arnold

5:25

Palmer Bayhill Invitational tournament,

5:27

we're down thirty percent on the weekend

5:29

I think on Sunday, that's what I read. Maybe

5:32

higher than that in terms of decline

5:34

on the Thursday

5:37

through Saturday. Not

5:39

good. And that's why everybody is

5:41

saying what they're saying. In terms

5:43

of the

5:46

players who are talking, Hey, something

5:49

needs to be figured out. Roy McRoy has

5:52

turned into the voice of reason. Here is

5:54

you know, I've talked about this before. You

5:56

know, at first he hated l iv I wish

5:58

they go away, and wish he didn't exist and

6:01

d D and now all of a sudden,

6:03

he's the voice of reason and

6:06

he sees the ratings

6:09

and that makes him automatically

6:12

become more reasonable.

6:16

Here's some quotes from Roy Macroin these

6:18

bigger signature events that

6:20

we tried to create, they worked

6:23

last year. The ratings were

6:25

up and it was great. But if you

6:27

look at the ratings this year from those events

6:30

in the United States, and everything's

6:33

down. And there's

6:35

all kinds of examples of

6:37

this, but pretty much everything is down. I think the

6:39

only tournament that was up was

6:44

Nick Dunlop, the amateur

6:47

won the American Express in January.

6:49

It was the only tournament compared

6:51

to twenty twenty three that had

6:54

a ratings increase. And maybe that's

6:56

because that was a good story amateurs winning

6:58

first time an amateur had won, you

7:00

know, forever since Phil Mickelson.

7:03

But the whole thing is down.

7:06

The whole thing is down, So Rory

7:09

said, it's sort of been

7:11

the same across the board with

7:14

some of these bigger events. I think the fans are

7:16

getting fatigued of it. I think

7:18

the more and more we go down this route,

7:21

the more people are just going to tune

7:23

in four times a year

7:26

for the major championships. Which

7:28

is no good for anyone, no

7:31

good for golf. This just can't

7:33

happen, so we need to figure

7:35

it out. I'm on record

7:37

from a for a long

7:39

time saying there's only four tournaments

7:42

that really matter. I don't think it's

7:44

just because of l I V that this has happened.

7:47

I think you had, you know, the

7:49

effect of Tiger no

7:52

longer being able to pull the sport

7:54

up like he

7:56

did for so many years,

7:59

and it kind of it

8:01

took a while for it to decline. You know,

8:03

he had it so built up that

8:06

even when he you know, since he's been out of the

8:08

picture since the back and then

8:10

the car wreck, he's been out of the picture

8:13

or limitedly in the picture, and

8:15

it just took it took a little while for

8:17

the decline that was inevitable to

8:20

happen. I remember when when

8:22

Michael Jordan retired from the

8:25

NBA and everybody was saying, you

8:27

know, who's the next Michael

8:29

Jordan. And then this is even before

8:31

Lebron and they're going like, who's the next

8:34

Michael Jordan? And people said, the next Michael

8:36

Jordan is playing golf and they were

8:38

referring to Tiger Woods. That's

8:40

the effect that Tiger had on. So I think

8:42

what's happened is is that you had

8:45

a lag. It

8:47

was inevitable that things were going to go down,

8:50

and it went down because Tiger Woods was

8:52

no longer pulling the tour up,

8:54

primarily pulling the TV rings up, because

8:56

Tiger pulled in not only a lot of people

8:58

into golf, but he pulled people

9:01

that weren't golfers into watching

9:03

golf, and that was that was a big,

9:05

big thing. I mean, you know, I know

9:08

so many people and family members who

9:10

didn't even play golf that all

9:12

of a sudden watched golf because of because

9:14

of Tiger Woods. In a minute, he

9:16

he doesn't play, I don't

9:19

think the ratings dip down like

9:22

thirty percent, But the

9:24

longer he's away from playing,

9:27

then you've seen this decline.

9:29

So I don't think it's just all l I V I think

9:31

I think this was inevitable when

9:34

these players think, oh, we'll just get everybody

9:36

playing together again, and you know,

9:38

we'll put Rory out there with Scheffler

9:40

and Justin Thomas and Jordan Speedy.

9:42

By the way, you know these

9:45

guys, when was the last time some of these guys

9:47

won a tournament we'll put all those guys

9:49

out there, and we'll put them out there with Brooks Koepka

9:51

and Bryson d Chambeau and Cameron

9:53

Smith and Dustin Johnson and

9:56

John Rahm and Patrick

9:59

Reid, and we'll them all out there, and the next

10:01

thing you know, the ratings will

10:03

jump up and they won't be down thirty percent. They'll

10:05

be up because all the players are playing. That's

10:08

that's fantasy land golf

10:10

needs. And I've said this for a long time. Golf

10:13

needs a reboot.

10:16

It needs events that are more

10:19

compelling.

10:21

You know.

10:21

I don't know what that means of its team

10:23

golf or what it is, but it

10:25

also needs fewer events. If

10:28

you're going to run you know, games

10:31

or tournaments and you're going to do it, you

10:33

know, every single week a

10:35

year, I mean, what would

10:37

the ratings be on you

10:40

know, basketball or

10:43

baseball or whatever if all of a sudden,

10:45

instead of playing for six months, you played

10:47

for twelve months. You're spreading

10:50

it out. People are only going to watch, only going to watch

10:52

so much. And I think when

10:54

you look at maybe how

10:56

much people are watching golf, you've

10:59

got to what's what's happening with L I

11:01

V And PGA

11:04

Tour and you add it all together. I

11:07

know, I don't think the viewing would

11:09

be down thirty percent. It's

11:11

it's probably the same, but

11:15

it's maybe down a little bit because no Tiger.

11:19

But you see it spread out over over

11:21

these two tours and that and that's why,

11:24

like you know, nobody's

11:26

going to do great on ratings. So it's a it's

11:28

a it's a new world. It's just it's

11:31

just a it's it's

11:33

just the way it is, and the whole thing

11:35

needs to reboot. What's gonna what needs to

11:37

happen is is there's going to be

11:40

fewer tournaments. That's inevitable

11:42

because they can't afford to pay for all this stuff.

11:44

I mean, it's just like like they boosted

11:46

these purses up, and I know

11:49

they got this investment from this you

11:51

know SSG or

11:53

whatever this is with you know, but but this

11:55

SSG or you know, these these group

11:57

of sports owners, these

12:00

guys didn't just put money in because they thought,

12:02

oh this would be you know, I just I don't

12:04

want these guys to any more guys to sign

12:06

with l I V or I want to you

12:08

know, support the PGA Tour. I mean, like

12:12

PJ tour pretends to be a charity,

12:15

but it's it's it's

12:17

not a charity that that s SG

12:19

is given to. They're expecting a return

12:22

on their investment, and in order to get

12:24

that return on their investment, something's

12:27

going to have to drastically change or they're

12:30

not going to get that return on investment.

12:32

That that is is fairly obvious, I

12:34

think to everybody. And that's why

12:36

you got this panic setting it. So

12:40

Rory says, for whatever reason the signa

12:43

events are not quite capturing the imagination

12:46

this year compared to last year. It's

12:48

not a reason. It's

12:51

multiple reasons, you know. But

12:54

that's not how people look at things. People

12:56

always look at things that

12:58

are complicated. They want a simple

13:01

explanation for a complicated

13:03

problem, and there's complicated

13:06

explanations for complicated problems.

13:08

There's not simple explanations for complicated

13:11

problems. It's just it's that's not the way

13:14

things work. So this is not there's

13:16

not a reason. When he says for whatever

13:18

reason, there's not a reason, there's

13:21

multiple reasons, and

13:23

multiple reasons are is the

13:26

tours down in general with the

13:29

personalities and Scotty Scheffer's

13:31

a great player, nice guy,

13:34

great story. I mean that is

13:36

when you're watching Scotty Scheffler play,

13:39

you know, and I got friends of mine text

13:42

me, alit, how does that guy do it? You know with falling

13:45

all over the place where his swing you

13:47

know, a good look, guy, good

13:50

you know personality, but he

13:52

he that you're not looking at Tiger

13:55

Woods. And he was player of the year

13:57

last year. He's number one in the world. He won three

13:59

times last year. People

14:02

tune in to see greatness

14:06

and they will tune in to see domination.

14:09

That's what Tiger Woods bought, brought

14:11

to the table. The Scottie Scheffler might

14:13

win this urn by five shots or might and

14:16

he was in People say he's the best ball

14:18

striker on tour by by a long

14:20

shot. And that's fine. But

14:23

winning three tournaments a year is

14:27

is not is not something that

14:30

like, oh, I can't wait to see this guy play

14:33

because he might win his third tournament

14:35

of the year. I mean, Tiger was winning

14:37

you know how many in a row. I mean at

14:39

one point when I helped he won seven tournaments

14:41

in a row. Okay, now, all of a sudden, you

14:44

got a story. Three tournaments a

14:46

year, you don't have a story. The

14:49

golfer that is like

14:51

the serious, serious, serious

14:54

golfers, just the golf nut

14:56

the golf enthusiasts. Okay, he's going to tune

14:58

in and watch and he's to think, wow,

15:00

that was nice and great

15:02

win. There isn't

15:05

anybody that

15:08

doesn't play golf that

15:10

is turning on their TV set

15:13

because they can't wait to watch Scotti

15:16

Scheffler. When the Bayhill

15:18

Invitational against

15:22

an incredibly weak field compared

15:25

to what used to exist in

15:29

the field, isn't even the problem because if Tiger

15:31

played against the weak field, which he didn't back in

15:33

the day, but if he did play against the weak field, they

15:35

would still watch it because it was Tiger Woods.

15:38

You just don't. You just don't have that anymore. So there's

15:41

when Rory says it's for whatever reason.

15:43

It's not a for whatever reason. It's

15:46

multiple reasons as to why

15:48

things are declining, and it's not

15:51

going to take one thing to fix it. You

15:53

can't just go out there and say, Okay,

15:56

we'll get everybody playing together again. And

15:59

that's what everybody says, like, like we got to get it,

16:01

We got to bring everybody back together, We got

16:03

to get everybody playing together again, like and

16:05

Rory said it. He said, he said, we got

16:07

to get for the good of golf, we got

16:10

to get everybody back together again. Okay,

16:13

well you got you got players that

16:15

that don't want the guys to come back. And

16:17

it's main mainly all the guys that that turned

16:20

out, you know, one hundred million dollars for not going

16:23

to l I V. They don't want those guys coming

16:25

back, you know, Scheffler

16:28

said that, Justin Thomas has said

16:30

that, Spee said that. You know, they've all said that. Now

16:32

Rory's changed his tune on that. But

16:34

but but that's a that's a

16:36

thought that's held by a lot of people because they're all

16:38

greedy, they all want they all want what's

16:40

best for them, and that's just human nature. Everybody

16:43

wants what's best for them and

16:45

and everyone is like that. It's

16:47

not it's not just these guys, and it's just

16:49

how people are. So when you

16:51

ask them, and that's the krup Golf media

16:53

will ask these guys all the time, you know, do you what,

16:56

what are you going to do? What about these guys coming back?

16:58

And of course they know what they're going to say. They're

17:00

going to say no, you know, they knew what they were getting into

17:02

when they left, and da da da da da da

17:04

da da da. But here's the thing,

17:07

and I've said this many times, those

17:09

guys don't want to come back.

17:11

They're not going to come back.

17:14

John Rahm said, you know, I'd like to play

17:17

in a few events that I really really like if

17:19

they fit into my schedule. But what

17:21

they really want is they just want to play in the major

17:23

championships and sooner or later, sooner

17:26

or later, and it's going to happen sooner rather

17:28

than later. It's already happened. And to a

17:30

certain extent, they're inviting guys

17:32

from l iv that Joaquin Neeman's gotten

17:35

invited to the PGA and the you

17:37

know Masters and this, and he's

17:39

one of the best players in the world right now, which is

17:43

scary in its own right, because I

17:45

just can't look at Joaqui Neeman and think, Okay,

17:47

here's one of the best players in the world. But that because

17:49

I'm used to watching Tiger Woods be the best

17:51

player in the world. That's what that's what I watched.

17:54

But I realized that's back in the day and now it's

17:56

today, and the best player in the world is the number one ranked

17:58

player. He won three times last year. So it's

18:01

pretty easy to be one of the best players

18:03

in the world because you don't have the best only

18:05

won three times. So how

18:07

much this top ten, there's guys in the top ten

18:10

they haven't won in you know,

18:12

in over a year. More

18:14

than that. I mean, there's guys like like

18:16

Tommy Fleewood. I look, I look

18:19

at that Tommy Fleewood. He's listened as one of the guys

18:21

to beat at the Players Championships.

18:23

And Tommy flew has never won a tournament on the PGA

18:26

Tour. Oh my gosh, and

18:28

yet he's a guy to

18:30

beat. It's crazy, okay,

18:33

But they don't want these guys to come back.

18:36

They don't want to come back. They want to

18:38

play their fourteen tournaments. They got

18:40

all their money, and people like

18:42

like they lost all these

18:45

guys. You know, like when people say they lost their

18:47

endorsements, these guys that went, you know, they

18:49

didn't want any endorsements because what

18:52

happens with endorsements is you got to

18:54

do stuff for endorsements. You got to

18:56

do photo shoots, you got to do outing

18:58

days, you got to do meet with

19:00

these people, and they you know what me, I'll

19:02

just take my LIV money. I don't have to do all

19:05

those I get all those days back, I get

19:07

all those I get one day less

19:09

of a tournament each week. I get

19:11

to play in five

19:14

or ten less tournaments, so I get

19:16

all those days and weeks back. I

19:18

don't have to do my corporate outing

19:20

days because I got any sponsors now,

19:22

because I don't need these sponsors going to make in so much

19:25

money. They've got so much

19:27

more time. And people laughed and they

19:29

said, oh, those guys don't have as much time, you

19:32

know, or they want to play more.

19:34

They don't want to play more. Maybe they'll play a

19:36

couple. That's it. I

19:38

don't see how they're going to get these guys back together.

19:41

They don't want to come back. They've

19:43

got their tournaments. The only

19:45

thing that can possibly happen

19:48

is if LIV grows

19:50

and all of a sudden LIV becomes

19:53

the tour, And that's

19:56

what potentially could happen.

19:59

But just they splintered and

20:01

half the good guys are better players

20:03

over here and half the better players

20:05

over there. I

20:07

don't see how this is gonna come out

20:10

where all of a sudden, these ratings are gonna jump

20:13

right up and even if they're all together,

20:16

they would still be down. Think

20:18

of a leaderboard. Think

20:20

of a leaderboard that

20:22

could possibly And

20:24

by the way, the Players Championship usually does

20:26

not have a great leaderboard. It's got a lot of names

20:29

on there you've never heard of, or a lot of names and

20:32

there that are surprised and they'll be the same thing again this

20:34

year. But draw me up a

20:36

leaderboard, any kind

20:38

of leaderboard of the field they have that

20:41

will get a rating

20:44

that's worth a darn. And I don't

20:47

think there is one. I really don't.

20:48

I don't think there is. I mean, and

20:51

some of these guys aren't playing great. You

20:53

know Roy mcroychot seventy

20:56

six on Sunday and you know finish

20:58

twenty first at bay Hill. Oh

21:00

I mean, now he's at a golf course that you

21:02

know, not you

21:05

know, the best golf course for him. It's you

21:07

know, the Players Championship. You

21:09

know, TPC sager that that's that's

21:11

a little bit of a of a you know, trick

21:14

them up course. I

21:16

just I think that that what you're

21:18

going to see is uh

21:22

is is not something not

21:24

great. Let's just put it that way. I don't think

21:26

you're going to see something great. It's not gonna happen,

21:28

and I don't think it's gonna be something great when they

21:31

got to rethink this, and

21:33

I don't know what you know, Rory said. Ror

21:35

Ory's even said he said, I don't know what the answer

21:38

is. That's what he said. I don't know

21:40

what you know, And you know what, I don't know. I

21:42

don't know what the answer is. Either. I'm not getting

21:44

paid to figure out the answer, but I

21:47

can tell you here's the answer. Getting

21:50

these guys back together is not the

21:53

total answer, and they're

21:55

not going to get back together anyways. So

21:57

if you think that's the answer, it's never going

21:59

to have And even if it did happen,

22:01

I don't think it's the answer. So

22:04

we'll see what they come up with as an answer.

22:08

But that's

22:09

my guess is

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very pared down schedule,

22:17

better players together, more

22:20

tournament schedule built around the majors,

22:23

and then you got these smaller

22:26

tours that are all kind of feeding into

22:28

something bigger, and

22:31

golf's going to look a lot different, and it needs

22:33

to, it needs to look a lot different. But

22:36

until that happens, and you

22:39

know, there's no sign that it's going to happen

22:41

like tomorrow, although you

22:43

know, Jay Monahan said, you

22:45

know, they're working on it, but

22:48

we'll see, we'll see. I'm

22:51

not holding my breath because

22:55

they already got their schedule. So

22:58

if you think this has hit rock bottom,

23:02

like they're not going to put this thing back together in two

23:04

weeks. If you think this thing's

23:07

hit rock bottom, pooh,

23:09

it hasn't. And here is the fifth major.

23:12

And what are they talking about at the fifth major.

23:14

They're talking about the splintering

23:17

of GoF. The splintering of

23:19

GoF. That's what they're talking about. All right. Hope everybody

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