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#892: Should Justin Thomas think of his Golf Swing LESS?

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#892: Should Justin Thomas think of his Golf Swing LESS?

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#892: Should Justin Thomas think of his Golf Swing LESS?

#892: Should Justin Thomas think of his Golf Swing LESS?

Thursday, 25th April 2024
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H m

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hm.

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Hm hmm.

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I'm gonna tell it like it really is.

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We know Haney doesn't give us

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silencing ridics and then the name

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missus two chips, never except

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on shoulders. To get better, everybody

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knows the name, read about it

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or golf Teachers Hall of Fame. Never

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doubt it. It's time for the truth. He is

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our due. You listen in the Hany.

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You listen in the Hany, You

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listen in to Hany. It's

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time for the truth. He is our dude.

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You listen in the Hani, listen

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to.

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M hm mm

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hmm. All right, welcome to the hank Any Podcast,

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right, today's podcast

1:24

is going to be about helping you get

1:26

better. Guy. I had a subject that I

1:29

heard about on the

1:31

I was listening to the PGA Tour radio

1:34

on Serious Exent, and

1:36

one of the analysts

1:39

on there was talking

1:41

about the Harbortown tournament. I don't

1:43

even know what it's called Heritage or something. Okay,

1:46

I call it Harbor Town. That's the golf course. I

1:49

can't remember the sponsor there, doesn't matter,

1:51

it's a Harbortown tournament. Anyway, they're talking about

1:53

Justin Thomas and

1:56

they were talking about

1:59

how he needs This is one guy

2:01

talking. You got to consider

2:04

the source. But the one guy is he's

2:06

on this subject and

2:08

his subject is Justin

2:11

Thomas needs to stop playing

2:13

golf swing and just start

2:15

playing golf. And

2:18

I thought, Okay, this is

2:20

a good topic for a podcast,

2:23

So we're going to talk about that today, and I'm going

2:25

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2:28

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ag. All right. The topic

3:33

I was talking about, this

3:36

whole thing about play

3:38

this, this, this, This talking head

3:41

is going on and on and on. I'm listening

3:43

to this and I'm like, first

3:45

off, I don't know what this guy's

3:47

handicap is. I may he may be

3:49

a good player. I don't know what he is. He's a six,

3:51

he's a two. He maybe he's a scratch.

3:55

I don't know. First off,

3:59

Well, for the let's talk about what a scratch golfer

4:01

is. How about that. Let's just

4:03

assume he's a scratch. A scratch

4:05

golfer when they go play

4:07

in a tournament, they're

4:10

going to shoot about seventy eight. Okay.

4:13

When a touring pro keeps

4:15

a handicap, he's like a

4:17

plus six plus seven something

4:20

like that, plus five. He's a

4:22

plus handicap, meaning on their home

4:24

course, playing with their buddies, they're

4:27

going to average like sixty six sixty

4:29

seven with their ten best out

4:31

of their last twenty scores. Okay,

4:34

of course it depends on the index,

4:36

the course rating, whatever they call it. But the

4:38

difference between a scratch player

4:41

and a touring pro is

4:44

about six or eight shots around,

4:46

okay. And if you put

4:48

the average player, if you put a

4:51

well, if you put the average player on a PGA

4:53

tour course, they would they wouldn't

4:56

break one hundred. But even put

4:58

a scratch player on a pg

5:00

TO of course, they wouldn't break eighty.

5:02

I mean like I'm not talking about like this

5:05

round. I'm talking about

5:08

like ever. Okay,

5:10

they wouldn't they wouldn't ever put them on augusta.

5:13

Oh my god, no, no,

5:15

no, no no, they wouldn't even sniff

5:18

you know, a around

5:21

under eighty, not even not even sniff. So

5:24

when I hear people talking and

5:26

they you know, talk

5:29

like they're they're they're the expert

5:31

on this these subjects, I think

5:34

like, really, I mean you're the expert,

5:36

I mean what what? So? So there's

5:39

the people are actually listening to this and

5:42

they're taking this stuff as gospel.

5:45

And this one thing they love to talk

5:47

about is you got

5:49

to play golf, not golf swing.

5:52

Justin Thomas is playing golf swing not

5:54

cop And I'm like, what exactly

5:56

what does that mean? What does that mean?

5:59

First off, Justin

6:01

Thomas has not

6:04

been playing great. His world ranking has

6:06

dropped, and it's a corrupt world

6:08

golf ranking because it's not even an accurate world golf

6:10

rank because it didn't even count all the LIV players.

6:13

And I think he's dropped down to you know, twenty

6:15

second or something like that, and he was, you

6:17

know, a top

6:19

five player in the words, So he's had

6:22

a big drop and he's had a

6:24

huge drop in his statistics.

6:27

Historically, with all

6:29

the players on the PGA Tour, including

6:31

the l IV players, he was a top

6:33

ten ball striker, top five ball striker

6:36

every year, like clockwork. Not a great putter, but

6:39

a top ten, top five ball striker, just

6:41

like like every year he was. And

6:45

then all of a sudden, he doesn't.

6:47

He's not playing as good, he's

6:49

not hidden it as good, and

6:52

he's still putting kind of not great.

6:55

Okay, when

6:58

you're not hitting it good, there's

7:01

something wrong with your

7:03

mechanics. Like

7:06

I like, you know, the

7:08

golf ball doesn't know what

7:11

you're thinking about. It doesn't

7:13

know how confident you are. The

7:16

golf ball doesn't know anything. All the golf

7:18

ball knows is what the golf club does

7:21

to it. And if the golf club isn't

7:23

doing something to the ball that

7:25

makes it go where you want it to go, there's

7:28

something wrong with your mechanics. So

7:30

when people say, well, he's thinking too much about

7:32

his swing and he needs to just

7:35

play, I'm like, Justin

7:38

Thomas knows how he can hit the

7:40

ball. He's a he's

7:43

a two time major championship

7:45

winner. He has been a

7:47

phenomenal ball striker. He

7:49

can go stand up on the driving range

7:51

and in two minutes tell

7:54

you how he feels like he's striking

7:56

it today. And when something

7:58

is off. I don't understand

8:01

the logic that people have that somehow

8:04

he's just supposed to be able to pretend like

8:08

nothing's off and I'm hitting it great, but

8:10

I'm really not hitting it great, you

8:13

know. And when he sees the ball,

8:15

you know, and you stand up over a shot, you visualize

8:18

where you want the ball to start, you

8:20

visualize which way you want it to curve.

8:24

Because you're playing the different pin placements,

8:26

you're playing holes at dogleg right, dog leg

8:28

left, you're playing

8:30

in different wind conditions. So

8:33

you determine where you want the ball to start,

8:35

which way you want the ball to curve, and

8:37

what trajectory you want to hit the ball

8:40

at. Those are the three things that you have to be every

8:42

time you stand up over a shot. Even

8:44

if you're not a very good golfer, you're attempting

8:47

to do those three things. Where do I want the ball

8:49

to start, which way do I want to curve, and

8:52

what trajectory do I want to hit the ball

8:54

at. And the trajectory is so important because

8:58

that allows you the

9:00

ability to play in different

9:02

conditions, in other words, the wind and

9:05

to different pin placements. And it also

9:07

allows you to hit partial shots. The

9:09

way you hit partial shots is

9:11

you vary your trajectory. So

9:14

if I want to hit a you know, if I'm trying

9:16

to hit it as far as I can,

9:18

I'm not going to send it in their head high. If

9:20

I want to take a little distance off it, I'll

9:23

go a little more three quarter and I'll lower the

9:25

trajectory I remember when Tiger

9:28

Woods first turned pro and he moved into

9:30

Alur down Orlando, and this

9:32

is when he became friends with Marko Myra,

9:34

and Marko Mira told him, he

9:36

said, he said, Tier, he gave him a great

9:39

tip. He said, the

9:41

most important thing you can

9:43

do on the PGA tour is

9:46

you have to be able to hit the ball

9:48

pin high. And that's the key.

9:51

You got to hit the ball Pinneye, and you have to hit

9:53

the ball pin high so that when you hit a shot

9:55

that goes at the pin, it goes the right

9:57

distance and now you have a legit

10:00

to BIRDI butt. That was a great tip. But to

10:02

do that, you have to be able to control

10:04

your trajectory. That's the thing. And the best

10:06

ball strikers are always the ones that are

10:08

able to control their trajectory. You can't, you

10:11

know, as they say, when you you know you start, you

10:13

got to start it through the correct window. You know, if

10:15

you're standing, if you're aiming at a building

10:17

and you're aiming to go through the twentieth floor window

10:20

and you hit a shot and

10:22

it goes through the tenth floor window, that

10:24

ball would not have gone the distance that

10:27

you thought it was going. To go. If

10:29

you hit it too high, too low, it's going to affect

10:31

the distance it goes. So my point is

10:33

this, if a player liked Justin

10:35

Thomas, that could be any player, it doesn't matter who it is,

10:38

stands on the practice tee or the

10:41

golf course and they're hitting

10:43

shots and they're not starting it off where they

10:45

want to, they're not curving at

10:47

the amount or in the direction that they want

10:49

to, and they're not

10:52

able to control their trajectory like

10:54

they want to. Then there's

10:56

something wrong with their mechanics

10:59

relative if to how they typically swing

11:01

when they're able to do those things. It's just as

11:04

simple as that. And

11:06

the correction for that isn't

11:09

just Danny be the ball, you know, like

11:11

I'm gonna Danny be the ball and you

11:14

know from Caddyshack, and

11:16

you're just gonna visualize

11:18

and you're gonna be the ball and miraculously,

11:22

this ball is just gonna take off and it's going

11:24

to go just like you wanted to. That's

11:26

fantasy land. That is

11:28

not the way it works. So when people say,

11:30

you know, oh, you're thinking too much about your swing

11:33

and I and my thought is when somebody

11:35

says that, well, if you're not hitting it good, then

11:38

you must be thinking about maybe

11:40

you're not thinking about the right things. See,

11:43

so Justin Thomas has been he's

11:46

been in flux with his swing. You

11:48

know, I don't think his dad is,

11:51

which was this was a bad move when he when

11:53

he stopped listening to his dad as much,

11:56

because it doesn't sound like he's listened to his dad quite

11:58

as much. Maybe he is. I don't know, but I

12:00

would have put my trust in his

12:02

dad. Mike Thomas, a

12:05

great coach, helped Justin's

12:07

whole life. I mean, you know, but when these

12:09

guys, no matter who they are, one thing

12:11

that's certainly going to happen is you're you're going to

12:13

struggle. Everybody's going to struggle. And

12:15

when you start struggling, even

12:18

the greatest players in the world, they have

12:21

rabbit ears. They will listen to like

12:24

you know they are, they're rabbit ears.

12:26

They get the big ears going. I mean, they're going to listen

12:28

to anything because they just are

12:30

hoping somebody has something and

12:33

then that gets you, that gets you offline.

12:35

But you got to think about something

12:37

in your swing. You just can't. It just doesn't.

12:40

It just doesn't happen. This notion this

12:42

playing golf dot golf swing?

12:44

What does that mean? What

12:46

does that mean? How is that going to fit? Like playing

12:49

golf? Like what if you slice? If

12:52

you slice and I said to you, hey, just

12:54

go play golf, don't play golf swing. You

12:56

think that's going to fix your slice? If

12:58

you hook the ball or you hit it too low,

13:01

or you hit it too high, And I say, I don't you know, just

13:03

just go play golf, don't don't

13:06

play golf swing, don't think about your swing so

13:08

much. How is that going

13:10

to change what you're currently doing? And the answer

13:12

is it's not.

13:13

So.

13:13

This stuff that people talk about is

13:15

craziness. It's absolute lunacy.

13:18

I don't know where people come up with this, but

13:20

they, you know, they say

13:23

it fast and they say

13:25

it confidently, and it makes you think

13:27

it might be it might be true,

13:30

but it's not. It's not. You have

13:32

to figure out what is causing

13:34

you to be inconsistent, what is causing

13:37

you to hit bad shots. You have to

13:39

understand what you need to do

13:41

to hit a better shot, and that means what

13:43

the club is doing. That means

13:45

what your body is doing. Your hands, arms

13:47

and body are doing to affect the club, and

13:50

then you have to make

13:54

some type of a correction, and

13:56

then you have to practice so you can do it consistently.

13:59

And that is it's It's as simple as

14:01

it gets. That's it. You want to you want to have something simple,

14:03

that's it. That's how you get it. I remember,

14:06

I remember back in the day. This

14:08

is a story. Back in the day. Markomra

14:11

was my first student on the PGA Tour.

14:14

And I've told this story before,

14:15

but Mark, Mark was

14:18

a great student when we started.

14:20

He literally didn't know. He

14:23

didn't and he would tell you he didn't know anything

14:25

at all about the golf swing. Like when

14:27

I first talked to Hi about the golfs and I said, well, okay,

14:30

what's your issues? Is I hook it too much? I

14:33

just want to learn. I just want to fade every shot. I don't want

14:35

to hook it. And I'm like, okay,

14:37

I said, you know, I'm kind of listening. I'm thinking, why don't

14:39

we learn how to just why don't we learn how to draw it

14:41

correctly and learn how to fade

14:43

it? I mean, why do we just want to fade every shot? I

14:46

mean, what are we going to do? What are we going to do

14:48

in the whole curves to the left. What

14:50

are we going to do when the pins

14:52

on the left. What are

14:54

we going to do when the pins on the left

14:58

and the win out

15:01

of the left and all we're

15:03

and all we're doing is fade and everything. What

15:06

are we gonna do with the pins on the left, the winds on the

15:08

left, the balls below our feet

15:11

and all we can do is

15:13

fade the ball? I said, This doesn't sound like a very

15:16

good plan to me. I said, we need to learn

15:18

how to draw it correctly, so we don't hook

15:20

it too much and don't pull it, and

15:23

then we need to learn how to fade. We need to learn how

15:25

to hit both shots. But Mark

15:27

learned and he he he, he was

15:29

a great student that I remember,

15:32

you know, in our you know we everybody has

15:34

ups and downs, and uh

15:37

Mark had some some great great

15:40

up ups for sure, but then you know, there

15:42

was a stretch when he had some downs and

15:44

maybe missed a few cuts or had some bad

15:47

poor finishes and

15:49

all the know it alls that that you

15:51

know, you know, like I said, they got the rabbit

15:53

ears, okay, but the know it alls

15:56

would talk and the you know and the proso listen,

15:58

you know this was about the time. I'm when the sports

16:01

psychologists were all coming there

16:03

was that was a thing. Okay, that was a thing.

16:06

And he would tell Mark, you're

16:08

thinking about your swing too much. And

16:12

all of a sudden, you know, Mark's

16:14

missed a couple of cuts and he says, ah, you

16:16

know, maybe I am thinking about my swing too much.

16:19

You know, this guy's got a good spiel over

16:21

here. Maybe this maybe maybe I maybe

16:23

I am thinking about my swing too much. You

16:25

know, maybe I'll try this this deal. I'll try

16:27

this deal for at I'll try this visualizer

16:30

shot for a little for a while. So

16:32

Mark goes to the sports like I forget who

16:34

it was. He goes to this spot and this guy's telling, you know, visualize

16:37

this, visualize that. You know, Danny be the

16:39

ball, all this stuff, and

16:41

Mark was into it. And he's a dedicated

16:43

student. I mean, like like he took notes from

16:45

every lesson I ever gave him. Uh,

16:48

he religiously practiced,

16:50

thought about what and he you know, like he

16:53

would he went hook line and sinker for this whole

16:55

thing. You know, this visualized stuff.

16:58

Play golf, not golf swing you know what

17:00

whatever these guys talk about that don't know

17:02

anything. I'll never forget it.

17:04

You know. He he did this for like a month.

17:07

I remember he showed up at Pebble Beach. I

17:09

forget what tournament was. I don't know if it was the Pebble

17:12

Beach Invitation. He won that thing like five times.

17:14

It might have been the US Open at Pebble Beach. I

17:17

remember I was walking with him. I remember,

17:19

I remember exactly. I was halfway

17:21

we were. I was walking on the outside of the

17:24

ropes because I you know, I'm still there supporting

17:26

them. Watched him on the

17:28

practice team. I'm giving them some lessons.

17:30

But you know, I'm kind of fighting against

17:32

this Danny be the ball stuff. You have

17:34

a little fight, you know. I mean, I'm not fighting hard

17:36

because I just I just figured this, let's just

17:39

let it runs course, you know, or wasting time.

17:41

But hey, you know that's all right. You

17:43

know we had enough time. You know, we had

17:45

enough time. We had enough time to get him to the Hall of

17:47

Fame. Uh and we had enough time.

17:49

We could we can waste a little time. But that's

17:51

what we're doing right now, is wasting time. That's what I

17:54

was thinking. And I just

17:56

you know, let him go, you know, try to support

17:58

him, try to sneak in a few thoughts every once

18:00

in a while. And while he was playing, Danny be the ball.

18:03

And anyway, we're walking down

18:05

the seventeenth hole. It was the end of

18:08

the tournament. It was like the seventy first

18:10

hole of the tournament. Walking

18:12

down the seventeenth hole at Pebble Beach. What

18:14

a beautiful hole. Oh my god, love Pebble

18:16

Beach. Anyway, walking down the hole,

18:18

I can remember exactly where I was. There's a

18:20

car path there, a road that cuts through

18:22

the seventeenth right in front of the tee,

18:25

and I had just walked past that road. Can you

18:27

imagine I can still remember this. I'd walked

18:29

past that road. Mark comes over to the

18:31

ropes and he said, Hank,

18:34

he said, you know what, he

18:36

said, I've been visualizing

18:39

my swing for

18:41

a whole month, he

18:43

said. I've visualized every single

18:45

shot just like I want to hit it,

18:48

he said. And for a month, he

18:51

said, I haven't hit one shot

18:55

like I know I can hit, he

18:57

said, tomorrow, going

19:00

back to thinking about my swing. And

19:03

then you know where he went. He

19:05

went to the Hall of Fame. That's where he went.

19:10

So all this, Danny Be the Ball play

19:14

golf, not golf swing. You know what

19:16

I would say, You

19:19

got to play a little golf swing to play golf.

19:21

That's what I would say. And if you're

19:24

thinking about something and

19:26

it's not working, then

19:29

my suggestion would be find

19:32

something else to think about. And

19:35

that is what I specialize

19:38

in. I specialize in

19:41

that moment that people take

19:43

a lesson and they say, Hank,

19:47

that's the best I've ever hit the ball, or

19:49

I've never hit a draw in my life,

19:52

or you know, I always hit it too low

19:54

and today I'm getting the ball. And that's what I specialize

19:57

in. So anyway,

19:59

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