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has to do with getting better at golf. Everybody

2:09

who listens to the hank Any Podcast, I'm assuming

2:12

wants to get better at golf. One of the questions

2:14

that I get a lot, and this comes from

2:16

people who take lesson that I thought about

2:19

this subject the other day when I had a lesson

2:22

and I was explaining to

2:24

my student about the nine shots.

2:27

Invariably people say, well, why don't

2:29

I You know, I just like to hit a fade, I remember,

2:33

or they might say I just like to hit a draw. They

2:35

like to hit a shot. And I remember

2:37

when I first started teaching

2:40

PGA Tour players was Marco Mira. It

2:43

was my first student. I met

2:45

Mark at Pineher's Hotel country Club

2:47

in the early eighties and Mark

2:50

was one hundred and twenty fourth on the money list

2:52

on the PGA Tour, and

2:54

before you know it, two years later,

2:56

he was second on the money list on the PGA Tour,

2:59

and all of a sudden, people thought, Hank Haney

3:01

must know something. If

3:04

I had never met Mark o'meira, I'm

3:07

sure I wouldn't have this podcast today.

3:10

Anyway. When Mark

3:12

and I first met, Mark hooked the golf

3:14

ball and he tended to hook it too much,

3:17

And because he hooked it too much, he

3:20

thought, you know what, I just want to

3:22

fade it. Like everybody wants what

3:24

they don't have, so he like, I just

3:27

want to fade the ball. In

3:29

our discussion about what he needed to do to get

3:31

better, I said, Mark, why don't we just learn

3:34

Why don't we learn to draw the ball correctly

3:37

so that it doesn't hook too much, and

3:40

then while we're at it, we'll

3:42

learn how to fade it, and then

3:44

we'll be able to hit both shots. That sounds

3:46

like a better plan to me, and

3:49

Mark was all here. So that's the path

3:51

that we took. But the

3:53

point is is that you

3:56

really just don't want one shot,

3:58

Like people say, I just want to play a fade. I'm

4:00

like, okay, you know that sounds good.

4:03

What do you do when you

4:06

just play a fade? And

4:08

the pins on the left. What

4:10

do you do when you just

4:13

play a fade and

4:15

the pins on the left and

4:18

the wins out of the left. What

4:20

do you do then? What do you do when the

4:22

pins on the left, the winds

4:25

out of the left, and

4:27

you just play a fade and you've got

4:29

the ball a little bit below your feet. When the ball's a little

4:31

below your feet, you're going to tend to miss

4:33

it to the right. When you're a right handed player, what do you do in that

4:35

situation? Well, I'll tell you what you do in

4:38

that situation. If all you got is a fade, you

4:41

hit the ball at the mill of the green, it drifts

4:43

over to the right side of the green, and then you try and

4:45

two butt from seventy or eighty feet, which

4:48

you're going to three butt a considerable

4:50

amount of time from seventy eighty ft. You

4:52

don't have that shot. What do you do when

4:54

you're just playing a fade and the whole curves

4:56

to the left. What do you do? Then? You

4:59

try to art the ball right down the

5:01

tree line, and if you pull a little bit, it hits

5:03

into the trees right off to thee That's what you do.

5:05

So you don't just you just don't

5:08

want one shot. Ideally you want you

5:10

want to be able to hit all shots. There are nine shots.

5:12

You can hit a straight ball

5:15

low, medium and high, a right

5:17

to left shot low, medium

5:19

and high, and a left

5:22

to right shot low, medium, hige. And when

5:24

you hit those shots that are curving, you want

5:26

a mirror image of bull shots. So I don't

5:28

want my right to left shot to go

5:30

you know, head high and my left to right

5:33

shot to go sky high. I want that I

5:35

want to be able to mirror the trajectory because

5:37

the idea is that ideally

5:40

you want to be able to hit the ball pin high,

5:42

and in order to hit the ball pin high,

5:44

you have to be able to control your

5:46

trajectory. So those are those are the nine

5:49

shots. Now why do you want to

5:51

hit those nine shots? Well,

5:53

I just told you some of the reasons, but I'm

5:55

going to tell you some more of the reasons. Well, you know the

5:57

pin placement. Ideally

6:00

you're going to hit with a say

6:02

eight iron on down eight iron to three

6:04

iron or whatever your long clubs are, hybrid's

6:08

fairway woods. You want to start the ball

6:10

always to the middle of the green. Now, with the wedges

6:12

and short irons, you can start it right at the pin,

6:15

take it right out of the pin, no problem. But

6:17

with your longer clubs, clubs that will curve,

6:20

you know. And today an eight iron is

6:22

kind of like yesteryear's six

6:25

iron or seven iron, so it's

6:27

capable of curving. You

6:29

want to start the ball to the middle of the green and

6:32

you want to work it to the pin. And

6:34

that's so that you can play conservatively

6:38

aggressive. And what that means is conservatively

6:41

I'm hitting to the middle of green, but I'm aggressive

6:43

because I'm curving the ball towards the pin. And

6:46

if I start the ball in the middle the green and it doesn't

6:49

curve towards the pin, okay,

6:51

it's in the middle of the green, I two butt from twenty

6:53

or thirty feet and I make my pow. I go on to the

6:55

next hole. If I curve

6:58

it a little bit toward the pin pins on the left to

7:00

start the ball to the middle of the green, now I got a

7:02

real birdy opportunity and a

7:04

better birdy up to But all the while

7:06

what I'm doing is I'm avoiding missing

7:09

on the short side. And the short side

7:12

means that if you have

7:15

a green and the pin is on the left

7:17

side of the green and you miss it to the left, you've missed

7:19

it on the short side. If you

7:21

have a pin where the green, where the

7:23

pin's on the right, and you miss it to the right, you've

7:25

missed. You've missed on the short

7:28

side. And the problem with missing

7:30

on the short side is your percentage of up

7:32

and the ends is going to be much

7:35

lower when you miss on the short side

7:37

than when you miss on the white side. Is on the short

7:39

side, you're probably going to have to hit

7:41

a flop shot or at least some

7:44

kind of a pitch lob shot. You

7:46

get the ball close to the hall or maybe even

7:49

just a stopper within thirty feet of the green, depending

7:51

on how fast the greens are you're playing, and

7:53

when you hit that kind of shot, it's more of a high

7:55

risk shot. You have to take a bigger swing. You're

7:59

hitting more of a gl lancing blow because the face

8:01

is wide open. Maybe you're cutting across a

8:03

little bit. You're trying to land it

8:05

in a close quarters just a few feet on

8:08

the green in order to stop it quickly. So

8:10

if you mishit it or don't hit it solid

8:12

enough, or don't hit it hard enough in

8:14

all likelihood you're going

8:16

to leave it short and now you've got

8:19

what I call a two chip, or it's taking you two

8:21

to get on. Now you bring double bogie into play.

8:24

So you want to miss on

8:26

the wide side. And that's why when people tell

8:28

me about you know, their statistics,

8:30

and people like to tell me, Hank, I hit this many

8:32

greens around, and I'm like, okay, that's great.

8:35

You know, the best on the tour only hits

8:38

thirteen greens around, So you're not going

8:40

to hit a lot of greens around if you're an amateur goffer.

8:42

But what you want

8:45

to really pay attention to is

8:47

the fact that how many greens do

8:50

you miss on the wide side

8:52

versus the short side? Because

8:54

I would rather I would rather hit nine

8:57

greens and miss nine

8:59

times on the wide side, then

9:02

I would hit eleven

9:04

greens but miss six

9:07

times on the short side. Because here's the problem.

9:10

If I miss on the wide side nine

9:12

times, I might be able to get

9:15

six of those up and in. Okay,

9:18

so I've only made three bogies. But

9:20

if I hit eleven greens missed seven

9:22

times on the wide side, okay,

9:26

I'm not going to be able to get many of those

9:28

up and in. I might get one of them

9:30

up in it. I might not get any of them up and end. I might

9:32

even take a double bogie from there.

9:35

So my percentage

9:37

of up and ends is much better when I leave myself

9:39

an easier chip shot. I want to miss on the white

9:42

side, not the short side. That's

9:44

one of the reasons why you

9:46

want to work the ball from right to left or

9:49

left to right, whatever it is, and you want

9:51

to be able to play to

9:53

the middle of the green then work into the pin.

9:55

Okay. The other obvious reason

9:57

is is what if the whole curve's one way or another

10:01

and you can you can curve

10:03

it around the dog leg. It's

10:05

a right to left hole. You start the ball the right,

10:07

you curve it to the left, and you're taking

10:09

yardage off the hole, and

10:12

that's a big advantage because distance

10:15

is the most important factor in golf. And if you

10:17

draw it around the corner there, maybe

10:20

you're hitting an eight iron versus hit it out

10:22

there to the right, and now you're hitting a four

10:24

iron, and eight irons go straighter

10:27

than foe irons. You're going to hit the ball close to the hole with

10:29

an eight iron, then you molow Fore iron then it

10:31

makes It makes a big, big difference, so you want it. You want to

10:33

be able to curve the ball around the dog leg.

10:35

The other thing you want to be able to do is you want to be able

10:37

to play the curve against

10:40

the wind to alleviate

10:42

too much of a curve. If you're a left to right

10:44

player and the wind's blown left

10:46

to right and you get the ball up in the wind and

10:49

the ball curves, and then it curves some more

10:51

and next thing you know, it's costing you distance

10:53

and it's costing you accuracy because you're missed. So

10:55

these are these are the reasons why you

10:58

want to be able to work the

11:00

ball both ways. The

11:02

other reason why you want you want to

11:05

work the ball both ways is you want to be able to

11:07

fix your bad shots.

11:10

And what I mean by that is you always try to fix

11:12

your big miss whatever

11:14

it is, and that's either going to be a

11:16

hook or a slide. Now, you could hit a

11:18

fat you could shank it. There's other ways, and you could

11:20

sky your t shot. There's other big misses,

11:23

but for the most part, you're

11:25

talking about fixing your hook or your slice.

11:27

You want to be able to fix your

11:30

hooker slice if you have it

11:32

going one way or the other. Sam

11:34

Sneith said it best. They asked him, They said,

11:36

what do you do when you're

11:40

hooking the ball too much? And he said, well,

11:42

I play with it on the course, and

11:44

then when I get to the driving range afterwards,

11:47

I work on cutting it for a while.

11:50

Okay, it sounds pretty easy. And what do you

11:53

do when you're cutting it too much? He said,

11:55

well, I play with it on the course. If that's all

11:57

I got, I play my cut, I aim for

11:59

it, I you know, play for my

12:01

cut, and then I

12:03

go to the drive range and I hook it for thirty minutes.

12:06

If you can curve the ball both ways, you can

12:09

do that. But if you only have one

12:11

shot, if you only hit a fade, you only

12:13

hit a draw, then

12:15

you can't. You can't go to

12:17

the range and correct it. You

12:19

know. It's like it's like I

12:21

remember back in the day. I

12:23

remember it so vividly

12:26

when Phil Mickelson

12:28

won the Masters for the first time, he played a cut

12:30

off Tea and that

12:34

golf course, Augusta sets up

12:36

a lot of holes set up for right to left shots.

12:39

You want to a right to left shot off number

12:42

two, the par five. You want to right to left

12:44

shot off of number nine.

12:46

The part four you want to right to left shot

12:48

off of number ten.

12:51

The part four you want to right to left

12:53

shot off of number thirteen. The part five.

12:55

These are there's a key holes where

12:57

you want to right to left shot off of fourteen. Because

13:00

the fairway slopes a lot to the right, you want to hold

13:02

it against the hill a little bit,

13:05

not to mention if the winds blown on any of these

13:07

holes. So Augusta sets

13:09

up for a lot of right to left shots. And

13:12

when Phil Mickelson learned really

13:15

was fading it good for a lefty,

13:17

it worked out good because for him it works

13:20

out for the fade. And it's

13:23

easier for players to fade the ball now

13:25

than it is to draw the ball because of the way the

13:27

equipment is, especially with the driver. But

13:31

I remember when when the announcer, and I remember

13:33

the announcer was Lanny Watkins was the announcer, and he

13:35

said, you know, he and Michxon's

13:37

hitting that fade and he should just

13:39

keep hitting that fade and he should never hit anything but

13:42

a fade. And I'm thinking to myself, if

13:44

you do that, it's just

13:47

a matter of time before your fade

13:49

turns into a slice. Hit a

13:52

perfect little fade. Your swing's

13:54

going to maybe be two or three degrees

13:56

across the ball, and your club face is going

13:58

to be a little bit left, and maybe

14:01

your face is one degree left and

14:03

your path is two or three degrees to the left,

14:06

and you're hitting just a little bit of a fade

14:08

from left to right if you're a right handed

14:10

player I'm talking about, and

14:13

the ball is always starting over there to left and it's

14:15

fading back to the right, and

14:18

that all sounds good. But

14:20

if you keep swinging that same way,

14:23

pretty soon that path is going to be four

14:25

or five six degrees out to end. You're

14:27

going to be swinging across it too much, and

14:29

then the face you're going to have trouble control

14:31

in the club face. So it sounds

14:35

like a nice easy thought, you know, I just want to play

14:37

a fade, Just play a fade. But it

14:39

doesn't work. It doesn't work for all

14:41

those reasons I outlined. So

14:44

you want to be able to hit all

14:46

these different shots. The hardest shot,

14:48

they say the hardest shot to hit is

14:51

a straight shot. Well, when you look at like

14:53

like I'm doing a lot of work on a track

14:56

Man simulator when I'm teaching now, and

14:59

to hit that straight, you

15:01

need to have a path that's going

15:03

straight through zero point

15:05

zero, and you need to have a club face that's

15:08

facing the target when you hit zero point

15:10

zero. That's hard to achieve. If

15:12

I have a path that's straight

15:15

but a club face that's not, I'm

15:17

gonna and because I'm trying for a straight shot,

15:19

so I get my path straight, but the clubface isn't

15:22

straight. Okay, I'm either gonna hit a you know,

15:24

a poll or a push or and it's

15:26

gonna be have some curve onto it too, because

15:28

the ball is gonna start off the wrong way and

15:30

it's gonna it's gonna curve on top of that. But

15:34

if I'm trying to hit it, if I'm trying to hit a

15:36

draw and I'm trying to swing two

15:39

degrees from into out, and

15:41

you know I'm swinging into out, my face

15:43

is a little open. But the face is

15:46

closed relative to the path. So

15:48

let's say my path is two degrees into

15:50

out, my club face is one degree open.

15:52

I'm gonna get a little bit of drop ball. It's gonna start

15:55

to the right, it's gonna draw back to the target.

15:58

What if my path all of a sudden gets three

16:00

degrees in doubt, Well, it gets three

16:02

degrees into out. If my club face stays the same,

16:05

I'm gonna hook it a little bit too much and

16:07

it goes a little bit maybe a little bit

16:09

too much to the left, or you know,

16:11

my my path gets way

16:13

too much in doubt, I'm gonna I'm

16:15

gonna at least get the shot that I'm

16:17

looking for. When you're trying to hit a

16:19

straight shot, the problem

16:22

is is you bring in kind

16:24

of both sides of play. But a

16:26

player who can work the ball kind

16:28

of eliminates one side one side

16:30

of the golf course. But it's not good enough

16:32

just to always eliminate one side of the golf course.

16:35

Because holes curve different ways, pins are

16:37

in different places, you have different slopes

16:39

in the fairways that you want to hit the ball up against.

16:41

You have different wind conditions that you want to hold the

16:43

ball against. So these are all the reasons

16:45

why it's it's fantasy

16:47

land. When people say, you

16:50

know, I just want to I just want to hit this

16:52

one shot. I just now there's players that have hit this

16:54

one shot and they've played well. Uh

16:57

and they've they've they've had had good

16:59

careers. But even

17:01

the players that predominantly hit

17:03

one shot, you know, Bruce Letsky comes

17:05

to mind, Lee Trevino, they still had

17:07

the ability if they got in trouble to hook

17:10

the ball around a tree. I mean, it's not like they

17:12

didn't know how to hook the golf ball,

17:14

but it's almost like they're hitting one shot

17:17

gives amateur goffers permission to

17:21

not be able to work the ball. Now, it's harder

17:23

to work the ball today with the equipment and the way

17:26

the balls are and the clubs and all that,

17:28

but it doesn't mean you can't do it, and it doesn't

17:30

mean you shouldn't do it, because if you

17:32

can, you have a great advantage

17:35

for all of those reasons that I

17:37

listed, So keep

17:40

that in mind. Always work on the ballflight

17:43

that you can't hit. Like when I watch

17:45

as student, the first thing I'm looking

17:48

for is their big mess. If

17:50

they're taking a lesson and they start

17:52

hitting and they're not hitting any misses, they're hitting

17:54

a lot of great shots, then

17:57

I start looking for, Okay,

17:59

what shots can't they hit? There's

18:01

nine shots straight ball, low, medium,

18:03

and high right to left ball.

18:05

Starting to the right of the target, curving back to

18:07

the target, but not past the target. Low,

18:10

medium, and high ball starting left

18:12

to the target, curving back to the target,

18:15

but not past the target, Low, medium,

18:17

and high. Which one of those

18:20

nine shots can they hit? Which

18:22

ones can they not hit? Or which

18:25

shots do they hit well? Which

18:27

shots do they struggle with? Of

18:29

those nine shots? And the best

18:31

ball strikers in the history of

18:33

the game, they could hit all those shots.

18:36

They could tell all those nine shots. There's

18:38

not many people that have ever played

18:40

the game that could sit there and say

18:44

I got all the nine shots. I got

18:46

all the nine shots. Anytime I want,

18:49

if you ask me to hit a shot,

18:51

and this is a little quiz I'll give people, I

18:54

would say, let's say you have it. You

18:57

got a tree in front of you, and

19:01

you know that you could

19:03

get over the tree, but you could

19:05

also go under the tree, you know,

19:07

and the green would accept either shot you

19:09

go over. You could go under, Okay, and

19:13

that tree, maybe maybe you want to

19:15

go around that tree and you could go

19:18

the pins in the middle of green. No wind.

19:20

You could go around the tree from right to left.

19:22

You could go around the tree from left to right. What

19:25

would you pick like, would would

19:27

it be easier for you to go over the tree

19:30

or under the tree? Would

19:32

it be easier for you to go right

19:34

to left or left to right? Well,

19:37

if you were if you were the ultimate ball

19:39

striker, and I'm thinking about Tiger

19:42

Woods back in the day

19:45

with his with his iron game, if

19:47

you were the ultimate ball striker and

19:49

you were faced with that situation, it

19:52

would literally be a flip of the

19:54

coin, like what do you want to see? Which

19:56

one? Which one do you want? I'll give

19:58

you either anyone you want? You want right to left,

20:00

you want, left to right, you want I you

20:03

want low? What do you want? And

20:05

that's that's a good

20:07

feeling because that gives you

20:09

the ability to always

20:12

be aggressive but conservative

20:14

at the same time. And it gives you the ability

20:17

to correct yourself, to correct the

20:19

mistakes that you're making in terms

20:21

of your ballflight, because after all, golf is

20:23

what the ball does. I'll

20:27

give you, I give you one more example of

20:29

the reason why you want to work the

20:31

ball. I remember when Tiger

20:33

won the Open Championship

20:36

at Hoylake, considered one of the greatest ball

20:38

striking tournaments ever and so one where he played

20:40

with irons pretty much iron's only the whole

20:42

tournament, and the golf course was

20:44

a golf course that you predominantly would

20:48

hit shots from right to left, okay,

20:51

And that was kind of the way the golf course

20:53

set up. And we practice

20:56

those shots a week prior to going over

20:58

there, and you hit those shots during the

21:00

tournament, and he was hitting him

21:02

good, but I was always thinking,

21:05

is that draw he's got going,

21:08

he's got a great drag on. Is that draw going

21:10

to turn into a hook? And

21:12

I started getting nervous

21:14

that we were going to get across the line at the top

21:17

club was going to come too much from the inside,

21:20

and we were going to start hooking it because we've been

21:22

hooking it for like, you know, a

21:24

week prior. And

21:26

then we got over there

21:28

and played three practice rounds and

21:31

three days of practice rounds and he's still drawing

21:33

it. And I thought, okay, are we

21:35

going to make it four more days? Or

21:37

is this draw going to turn into a hook at

21:39

some point? And then

21:42

I thought, you know what we need to do

21:44

is in the afternoons when he goes

21:47

to the drive range after his round, we

21:50

need to play some fades. We

21:52

need to play some fates and I'll

21:54

never forget it, because he would stand out on the range

21:56

and he'd hit that left to right shot, work on

21:59

the fates, and I think people

22:01

thought we were nuts, like why is Tiger

22:03

practicing all these fades on the drive

22:05

range when the whole golf course is the right to left

22:08

golf course. Why

22:10

is that happening? And

22:12

the reason was is that it

22:15

was an attempt to keep

22:17

his swing in balance, to not let

22:20

it get too far over

22:22

to the other side. And that's what you're always

22:25

trying to do in golf. You're trying to stay in balance.

22:27

I mean, I'm not talking in balance

22:29

with your feet like Scottie Scheffler. I'm

22:32

talking about in balance with

22:34

being able to hit all the nine

22:36

shots and not finding one shot

22:39

easier to hit than the other, because

22:41

when you're in that situation, you're

22:43

tipping out a balance and

22:46

when that happens, it's tough

22:48

to find. It's tough to find middle ground. So

22:52

your goal is to be able to hit all the shots.

22:55

Let's start off first with right to left

22:57

and left to right. Then you can work

22:59

on the different trajectories. But at

23:02

least if you left to right, right to left, I

23:05

tell people, and nowhere on the road to go golf. Is

23:07

there a slice? You can go from slicing

23:09

to hooking to good golf. You

23:12

go from slicing to hooking to learning

23:14

to fade it and now you're at great

23:16

golf. And I hope everybody gets

23:19

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Hope everybody has a great day. Get

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out there on the range and practice hitting some

24:04

shots. Figure out which

24:07

ones you can hit and which ones you can't, and you'll be on

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