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Welcome to this week's episode

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of the heart of health .

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And on today's episode, we're

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talking about the 75

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hard challenge finally.

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Yeah. Took you awhile . I've

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been done with this for awhile . I've done. I

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remember

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It only took me six months to complete

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a 75 day challenge. I

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had to start over a few times. And

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for

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All of those thinking that this is

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a challenge for health. No ,

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That's not. It is a mental toughness

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challenge created by Andy

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Frisella, who

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is , uh , I think CEO

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of the first forum , a supplement company.

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He also has his own podcast

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called real life. He used to have

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a podcast called the MFC. Uh,

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but , um, I think right now he's

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probably most famous for creating the 75

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or

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Yeah. The only way you can maybe link

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it to health is by saying

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that it could give you the mental toughness

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to accomplish your health goals.

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But doing it in itself is not

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healthy specifically.

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I disagree. I think it can be healthy.

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It depends on how you do it. Yes.

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We have mixed fee . We have different opinions

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on the 7,500 challenges . Jonathan

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had a different experience than I did .

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Yo , you forces you to drink way too much water

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For you. I, I

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didn't have nerves . I have no problem

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drinking. The bed kind of in

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Itself is just showing you that it doesn't really care

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who you are. You've got to drink so

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much water, 3.7 liters

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Or a gallon you needed to be

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mentally tougher, you know, drink that water

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toughen up.

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Yeah. But it has nothing to do with health, but

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optimal.

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It's not supposed to be like, yeah. Okay.

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So if you don't know about the 7,500

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challenge, it's a challenge that you

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do for 75 days. And

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there are certain guidelines that you need to do

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follow every day. And if you miss one

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of them any single day, then

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you start over from day one. So

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if you don't

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drink enough water on day 30,

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you start over. If you forget to

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take your progress better day 74,

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you start over. So it doesn't matter where

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you are. If you skip a thing,

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you start over, I guess.

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So the guidelines are you have to

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do two workouts a day

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that are 45 minutes. Each at least

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one of them has to be outside.

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It doesn't matter where the other one is and

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they can't be back to back. You have to space

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them out a little bit. Then

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you need to take a progress better every day,

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read 10 pages of

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a nonfiction book, drink

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a gallon of water. So that's

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3.7 liters. That's

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what Jonathan was about. Follow

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a diet. So any diet , um,

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Andy does not care what? That you follow that

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, then you can't have any cheat

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meals or alcohol.

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Yeah. For some people that know alcohol will be a

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real problem. Yeah.

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For us, it's not really a problem at all.

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We usually don't drink anyways. Okay.

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So those are the guidelines. Um,

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Jonathan did not have to start over. He has

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a lot more self-control than I do. He

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is a very mentally

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tough person. Um, the only

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reason you actually really did this is because I

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asked you to pretty much

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, I didn't want to do it alone.

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I've been wanting to do the same five hard

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challenge for a really long time.

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Now, ever since I first heard about

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it, it was probably like a year that I was

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wrestling with the idea. Um,

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it seemed pretty daunting to be honest.

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And then I wanted to start it on

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the 1st of January, but

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I didn't want to do it alone. And

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then I asked you to do it with

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me and you did

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cause you're a good husband.

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And you thought

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that it would be too easy if I just

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did animal based for my diet. So

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you said to make it a real challenge, I'd have

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to go strict carnivore.

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Yeah. It's because you were eating animal-based

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anyways and you needed to challenge

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yourself a little.

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So that's why I went strict

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.

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Yeah. That's why you went strict carnivores

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. Um, yeah.

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That's the diet that you chose. You

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had no plant foods, only

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animal foods and you

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enjoyed it. So the diet part was not an

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issue for you.

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I know it wasn't an issue, but it

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could be, it

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could have been easier if, you know, you

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could have bolt on with a little bit of spice or

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you could have some lemon

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on your fish. Um , yeah

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. It was more things like when you go to a person's

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house or family or whatever,

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and they were used to you being fine with the

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little bit of lemon on your fish where

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you're like, no, it's super strict now.

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So no plants at all

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took a while for people to understand,

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especially because it's the first time I did it

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for 75 days instead of just normally a month.

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Yeah . Like in the, I'd only been

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strict carnivores for 30

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days.

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Yes. This was the longest stretch

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that you had .

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So 75 days of zero

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plant intake. Yeah.

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Hey, well I think it did, you will. My,

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well , my diet changed every time I read it.

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The first time I had to start over with 75

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heart, it was cause I promised that and

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for didn't take a progress better that day. So

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I had to start over the next two

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times was because I screwed up

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with my diet part of it because

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diet is very hard for me to stick to,

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like I am a food addict. Like I knew

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that it was going to be tough. Um,

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that it's okay. So then I realized

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after the third time I had to start over

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do not set a calorie goal

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because no. So the third time

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I had to start over with 75 heart

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, I decided I'm going to go for

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a low carb animal-based diet.

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So I ate mostly animal foods. Um,

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I cheese, a meat,

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butter eggs, and then I would

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have dark chocolate. Like I decided dark

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chocolate was fine. So that was pretty much

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most of what I ate. So it was a low

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carb diet, not going

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above a hundred grams of carbs , um,

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and sticking to mostly animal

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foods. And then yeah, that made it a lot

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easier to stick to 7,500 . And

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then the person's went pretty

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much smoothly from there. Um,

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the workouts, what did we do for the workouts?

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I think we got stuck doing

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similar workouts

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When you were doing 7,500 years.

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Yeah .

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I don't know . I feel like in order to make it

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easier, you should try to bring

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in as much variety as possible

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because yeah. If you bring in the variety,

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then the only problem is that it's time consuming.

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Like if it's the same workout

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every day over and over, it gets very monotonous.

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And that's

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where I'd also say like, okay, you know, is

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it a good idea to

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run or do

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a specific workout routine every day

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for 45 minutes? I'm not sure.

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You know, you might actually get a

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little bit over and over, like

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over-training sort of syndrome occurring

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Unless it's something like yoga stretching.

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That's not too bad .

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Yeah. Unless it's light . But I'm just saying like, if someone's

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now thinking, oh cool. I'll just do

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boxing.

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Yeah. The whole, every day , every day

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For 45 minutes. I don't know

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if that is actually healthy,

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Like in between

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It'll make you tough. Yes.

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But is it healthy? Is it optimal? Is

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it going to be improving your performance every

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time? Probably not. If

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you're not bringing some kind of variety

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into your training, then I

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don't think you're going to be progressing in your fitness.

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And I don't know if it will be healthy

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in the overall picture. Yeah.

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For me, workouts that I enjoy

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doing a weight training. So

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exercising weights, walking. I really like

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walking. We did some cycling,

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stretching, yoga.

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I did some dancing. Yeah.

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Try to get as much variety as possible.

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Like obviously repeat workouts,

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but it definitely did help.

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Um, I do have my favorites, but yeah,

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it's good to cycle. And there are people

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who , who want to do the same workout every

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day to make it extra challenging for

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themselves. And that is perfectly okay.

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Um, for me, just the diet portion already challenged

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my mental toughness a lot say and

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feel that it was necessary to just add more

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to it.

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Yeah. It's, it's definitely not.

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I definitely don't disagree if

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you say it's tough to do the same workout

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every day. Oh my God . That is tough. But

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the question is, is it healthy? We don't know.

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And it's very specific to each individual.

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And that's why I said,

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I don't know if the 75 heart

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is specifically for health.

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If it's walking every day, I'm

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not going to question it because I feel like that is

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ancestrally appropriate. Like I believe

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in running, maybe our ancestors

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could have taken 2 45 minute walks back

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in the day and been perfectly fine

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and stretched a little picked

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up a rock, but they didn't like necessarily

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pick up rocks five for 45

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minutes a day, twice a day for 5

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75 days straight.

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Yes, exactly. They were probably

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rest days.

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Yeah. Um, yeah,

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I really enjoy the exercise part

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for me. That is just natural

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part of my routine. Now the going

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outside part is annoying sometimes

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because I'm more of an indoors person

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anyways, but I love that because it is forcing

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me to get out more, get more

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sunlight. And I've

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loved that part about 7,500 that

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you probably get more sunlight

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unless you like exercising at three

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or four o'clock in the morning outside when

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it's still dark. Um, I

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think most people will probably

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get more sunlight exposure from

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the , um, outdoor

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exercise part of the 7,500

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challenge. Oh, we definitely got more weather

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exposure. We definitely got more weather

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exposure. My freshman

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Year. I don't care. It doesn't care if there's a torrential

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downpour and like everything's

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flooded and there's water everywhere.

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You've got to do your 45 minutes outside.

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Well, then be stupid if there's a hurricane, just

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start over. Just start over

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with 7,500 once that's over. But

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No I'm saying like we had those

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floods where like everything

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was soaking wet . When we sled to do

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our workouts with 75 hard ,

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We were exercising in the rain. Yep

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. And you haven't told you go to

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bed to complete. So

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there was the one night we were outside

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quite late , um

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, feeling a little like miserable.

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That was a few times where I was like, oh no , I've got

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to go out at 10 o'clock at night and

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exercise for 45 minutes outside.

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Those were the days your time management

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probably could have been better if

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it exposes some of your weaknesses

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in life, maybe, you know, I

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think definitely. Um,

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what else that taking a photo

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seems like such an easy and simple thing

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to do, but it's, it's

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just that as easy to forget it

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because it's so simple and easy. So

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after the first time that I skipped

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that and had to start over with 75 heart

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, I just downloaded the app and that

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made it much easier. Cause everyday I can

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just take it off. And if you forget,

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like the app will remind you and that

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was really good. So that helps. I recommend

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that for people who struggle

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or just yeah. Make your own checklist,

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but definitely have a , it

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Definitely helps to have a daily

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checklist so that you can see,

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okay, cool. I've read my 10 pages. I've

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drank my water. I've taken my picture

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and I've done my two workouts.

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Yeah. The no

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cheat meals. Part of it for me, it

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is actually quite amazing as somebody

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who does struggle with binge

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eating in general and who

13:24

overeats being able to say

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that I've gone 75 days

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without like bingeing or overeating

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is really amazing. So

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that part I love about the challenge

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is like, I know

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for sure how long it's been since

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the last time I overate or binged,

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because that was the last time I had to start over

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with 7,500 . And

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that is something to feel really proud

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of because it's something that I've struggled

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with pretty much since I was a

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little kid and being able to say that I've

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gone 75 days without cheating

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on my diet or with that bingeing

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or overeating is

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epic. It is really amazing. And

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to say like, and as a really like

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a lazy person, being able to

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say that I have exercise twice a day for

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the last six months is

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wow. Because

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even though I've had to start over with 75

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heart , I haven't skipped the reading a

14:22

single day. I haven't skipped the two workouts

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a single day this year. Um,

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I haven't skipped the water. So I've had a gallon

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of water every day and this whole year, six

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months and it's epic.

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And I mean, even I'm like finished

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with 75 hard , I'm going to continue

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because why do I want to miss the benefits

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of reading the 10 pages? Because

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I'm gaining knowledge from it. So I don't want

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to stop doing it. Um, I

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work from home, so it's easy for me to two

14:51

workouts a day. It's not like, you know, I parked

14:53

my car and walk to the office or

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walk between like offices

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or anything like that. Like I can easily

15:01

just sit on the couch the whole day. So

15:03

I love having that , um

15:06

, being forced to move my body for

15:08

45 minutes, twice a day,

15:10

to balance out the , um

15:12

, sedentary lifestyle

15:14

that I have if I'm just sitting.

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And , um, and I've even tried to be

15:19

creative because I have two riots

15:21

as part of my job sometimes. And then I'll

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write on my phone while I'm walking

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outside. So I've, you

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know, I'm trying to be efficient with it. So

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I am going to continue with the two workouts

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a day and I'm basically starting

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7,500 from scratch again. Cause

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I want to, because

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I enjoy it. I feel like I really benefit

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from it. Like we said earlier in the

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podcast, I needed the mental toughness

15:46

challenge. You didn't really, and

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I didn't feel like I'm there yet. I need to toughen

15:51

up a little more. I

15:53

need this challenge a little more.

15:56

Yeah. I

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, I do prefer , um,

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doing more intense workouts on

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like a day. And then

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so maybe like two really intense workouts

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in a week and then take

16:11

it easier on the other days , um,

16:15

Where I prefer working out every

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day . Yes . Working out more regularly

16:20

and yeah, to be clear, the 75

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heart challenge is actually part of a

16:25

bigger program called the love heart

16:27

program. And 75 heart

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is just like the first part of it.

16:32

After 75 hard , you get like phase

16:34

one, phase two and phase three

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that you finish, like the month

16:39

before the anniversary, that of

16:41

the first day that you started 75

16:44

hard. Um, and I'm

16:46

starting over with 75 heart

16:48

and not moving onto phase one,

16:50

which is like a 30 day challenge. Just

16:52

because in phase one you have to take a cold

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shower every day. Um, it

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is winter here. Um, I'm a bit

16:58

of a chicken plus. I'm

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just worried because I already, I feel

17:03

like my body's already under a little bit of stress.

17:06

I don't want to add even more stress

17:08

to it. So I just want to do more research on

17:12

that. And maybe when I feel

17:14

like I'm not as stressed and I feel like I

17:16

can add the cold showers because I do

17:18

have a history of my hormones freaking

17:20

out a little, if I do do too much stuff

17:22

like cold shock and intermittent fasting

17:25

and exercising a lot and working

17:27

a lot, I kind of have to be

17:30

selective about how many stressors

17:32

I add to my life. And the cold

17:34

shock I feel like is future

17:37

Una's problem.

17:38

And that's one of the reasons why I questioned

17:41

if 75 hard

17:43

is purely just for

17:45

health is because

17:48

of that. You know, it's, it doesn't matter that,

17:50

oh, your body's already under a lot of

17:52

stress. You have to do X,

17:55

Y, and Z every day. Otherwise

17:57

you fail, you know, it's like, I

17:59

feel like you just start over. Yeah.

18:02

But fail and start from the beginning. Yeah . So

18:05

if it was purely just about health, it

18:07

would be more lenient to like

18:10

individual needs and look

18:12

at like, okay, no, wait, you've already got a lot of stress

18:15

on your body. Um, you

18:17

know, you shouldn't do X, Y, or Z, but it's like,

18:19

no, it doesn't matter who you are. You've got

18:22

to do these things no matter what,

18:25

and it might not

18:28

be good for some people, like you said, to

18:30

add extra stress when they're really a sort of

18:32

at breaking point when it comes to how much stress

18:34

their body can handle.

18:35

Yeah. And I mean,

18:38

that's the whole thing we we've mentioned

18:40

that we keep saying it , it is a mental toughness

18:42

challenge. So, and that's the thing. A lot

18:44

of people are against the challenge because

18:46

they argue that it's not

18:48

that healthy for you. And they give all

18:50

the reasons and

18:53

it's like, yeah, we get it for a lot of people.

18:55

It's not ideal, like for some people, but

18:57

even that, if you're under a lot of stress, both

19:00

of your workouts could be like , could be stretching.

19:02

I guess you could adapt it to try to reduce

19:05

the amount of stress that you get. But

19:07

if you're going to do it for mental toughness

19:10

reasons, then you would want to challenge

19:12

yourself more. I think that's the whole

19:14

thing. Like, yes, you can do the version

19:16

where you just do like walking and stretching.

19:19

Are you going to feel like you really pushed

19:22

yourself and worked on your mental toughness

19:24

maybe? And then if yes , great.

19:26

But for me that wouldn't have worked, like if

19:29

I just stretched and

19:31

did light walking the entire time, I

19:33

would have finished 75 hard feeling. Like

19:35

I didn't do it properly

19:39

for the reasons why I

19:41

wanted to do it in the first place, which

19:43

is mental toughness. And for

19:45

me, I don't always like hard workouts.

19:47

Like I can easily go for the easier

19:49

option because I am lazy by

19:51

nature, but I

19:54

really enjoy it. And uh , I thought

19:56

it was hilarious the other day, you commented

19:58

that you thought that I

20:00

, I needed to toughen up a little more mentally

20:03

and I thought, well, this is pretty much well,

20:05

I'm ending 75 hard. And

20:08

even though I feel like it has

20:10

helped me a lot, I still have so much

20:13

so far to go. And

20:15

I am excited about starting from scratch and

20:17

then seeing if I can challenge

20:19

myself a little more, because I am

20:21

already like, kind of used to a lot of the things

20:24

and I'm excited for

20:26

the personal growth that will come from

20:29

the 75 hard challenge. And for me

20:31

physically health wise , it's been great

20:33

because I've managed to lose

20:35

fat. I've managed to lose weight. And

20:38

I feel like I'm at the body fat percentage

20:41

that I want to be right now. And

20:43

I'm when kilos or 2.2

20:45

pounds away my goal weight

20:48

just after doing the 75

20:50

hard challenge. And I'm

20:52

very excited about that. So

20:55

if I measure it from like, if this

20:57

was going to be a health goal, if I

20:59

turned seventy-five heart into a weight loss

21:01

challenge, then I would say it was

21:03

successful. If I call a mental

21:05

toughness challenge, it was still very successful

21:08

for me. And yeah. So I

21:10

really love 75 hard. I will.

21:13

I'll recommend it to people. You,

21:15

you say what

21:18

? Well, yeah, if you're under a lot of

21:20

stress. Yeah.

21:21

I'm basically just saying don't expect to

21:23

be healthier at the end

21:25

of

21:25

It because it's not guaranteed. You could

21:27

be healthier. It depends on where you started.

21:30

And

21:30

I did say in the beginning that it can give you the mental

21:33

toughness to achieve your health goals.

21:35

Yeah.

21:35

Because if you do 75 hard,

21:38

so many things will seem very easy.

21:40

Like you look at all these 30 day challenges

21:43

to be challenges, three days

21:45

things, and you think I've done the 75

21:47

hard challenge. I can easily do a 30

21:49

day challenge. And it's such a

21:51

great confidence boost. You

21:54

just realize what you're capable

21:56

of. Like, you can be the type of person

21:58

that reads everyday. You can

22:00

be the type of person that works

22:02

out every day. Like some people might started

22:04

where they weren't really active at all.

22:07

And you can be the type of person,

22:10

like I realized who doesn't cheat

22:12

on their diet for 75 days in a row.

22:14

And it just shows you what you can do. And

22:17

it's a great confidence boost from , for

22:19

me. It it's helped a lot.

22:22

And now if I think if any challenge,

22:25

even a work challenge, I think, hell

22:27

yeah, I can do this.

22:29

Yeah. It's it definitely

22:31

shows you where

22:34

the weird or not necessarily

22:36

where your limits are, but that your

22:38

limits are probably way further away than

22:40

you think they are.

22:43

Um, definitely. And even for

22:45

me, I never considered myself to be much

22:48

of a reader, like , uh , like a

22:50

books. And if

22:52

I, before this challenge, if I said , oh, I

22:54

wanted to read a little bit every day,

22:57

I probably wasn't going to do it. And

22:59

the books that I've read on seventy-five

23:02

hard or books that I've had for a while,

23:04

bill never really started reading. And

23:06

then we started doing 75 hard and

23:08

I finally started reading them and

23:11

I actually managed to like finish

23:14

a few and get very deep

23:16

into the one that I'm currently busy reading.

23:19

And they're quite big thick books.

23:23

Yeah. Are you, you'll be surprised

23:25

how far 10 pages a day will get you.

23:27

Yeah. How quickly you can finish

23:29

a book by just doing 10 pages

23:32

a day. So a lot of people might

23:34

do 75 hard and the

23:36

only thing they still continue

23:38

to do afterwards is the reading

23:40

portion. So, okay. You don't want to

23:42

do the two workouts a day, but you

23:44

are to carry on this reading thing

23:46

and maybe now you'll be a reader for life.

23:49

And just the knowledge that I've gotten from

23:51

the reading, the 10 pages every day

23:54

has enriched my life in so

23:56

many ways and taught me

23:58

things that will probably help me throughout

24:00

the rest of my life. So

24:03

you're gaining a lot just from

24:05

it having to be non-fiction

24:07

that you are reading.

24:10

Yeah. Cause I think a lot of people would

24:12

think it would be too easy if you could read fiction.

24:14

Yes. If you could read fiction, then 10

24:16

pages would be too easy, but

24:18

you are forced to read something that is

24:20

really going to contribute to your personal

24:22

growth. Well, hopefully , hopefully

24:25

you've picked up some

24:26

Pretty useless nonfiction

24:28

out there, I guess.

24:30

But there's also this thing called shelf help.

24:32

Whereas like people like

24:34

just like read things and then

24:37

leave it and they don't actually put

24:39

the things they learn into

24:41

action. So I was like, yeah, you can read

24:43

the non-fiction book, but you still have to apply

24:45

the knowledge. Yeah . Self-help

24:47

self-help I think

24:49

that's what they call it, but that was

24:51

quite funny. So I'm very

24:54

pro saving five hard in

24:56

the next phase. I think you have to add

24:58

like power tasks. So

25:00

that is what is cool about the whole love heart

25:02

program. 75 hard that Andy

25:05

Frisella has put together. It's like, it can help

25:07

you in your business and things

25:09

like that. So like five

25:11

power tasks or five actions that you

25:14

can do in a day that will help

25:16

you get closer to your goals. So

25:18

for a lot of people who may

25:20

be like have dreams, but they struggled

25:23

to go over into action. Doing

25:25

this program can maybe force them to start

25:27

doing that. And then yeah, they

25:29

might be doing it because they're doing the live

25:31

hard program, but

25:34

it is like giving them that nudge that they

25:36

need. Um, which

25:38

I like. And then I'm not sure in which phase,

25:40

but in one of the phases in

25:42

the future. And that's the one that scares me the most

25:45

is you have to talk to a stranger every day.

25:48

I can be socially awkward. That's a little hard

25:51

, um, you know, like, and

25:53

it's like, I can't be over the

25:55

internet or something like that. And you can't

25:57

just say hi, like you have to talk

25:59

to a stranger. And so if

26:01

you don't have a great social life,

26:03

if you may be in a new city and you don't

26:06

really know a lot of people, that

26:08

part of the challenge could help you

26:10

with your relationships and social life,

26:12

or it could just help you get over the fear

26:14

of talking to people.

26:17

Yeah. It's uh , I

26:20

think, yeah , you, you won't regret

26:22

doing 75 hard , um,

26:26

People get different benefits from a

26:28

depending on what they need and what they need

26:30

to work on. And

26:31

Yeah, you'll definitely learn from the experience.

26:33

So I think it's, it's

26:36

worth doing, but don't

26:38

look at it as, oh, I'm

26:41

going to do

26:43

this thing to , you

26:45

know, give us like a

26:48

get healthy or whatever it's actually no, you're,

26:51

you're doing it to get

26:53

a new mindset. That's

26:55

the main objective of 75

26:57

heart is like, it's

27:00

training your mind. It's honing

27:03

your mind to become stronger

27:06

and more resilient and able to face more

27:09

veracity and be more disciplined, be more

27:11

disciplined.

27:13

Jocko. Willink says discipline equals

27:15

freedom. And um , really

27:18

noticed the power of that in my life.

27:20

Yeah. And it's like, it might

27:22

sound like a dichotomy, but if

27:26

you look at the people who are the most disciplined,

27:29

they look the most free, you

27:34

know, it's like, look at joker . He

27:36

seems like a really

27:38

happy guy who K

27:40

I, his face doesn't really, he

27:43

has got quite a , quite a frowning

27:45

face, but got a good life. He's got

27:47

a good life. You know, he's got, he's

27:51

got a sort of like zero stress because

27:53

he's got everything, all

27:56

his ducks in a row. He doesn't have

27:58

to worry about a lot of things in his life

28:00

And maybe not zero stress, but he's managed

28:03

to lower his stress. Yes . By having

28:05

these routines, it's like, you

28:08

don't have to worry about if you're going

28:10

to work, work out. It's not a decision

28:12

you even need to make. It's just automatic.

28:15

And when you're disciplined in so

28:17

many things in your life, you do automatically,

28:19

then you take the worry away from it.

28:22

I need you to take away the decision.

28:24

Yes. Because you're too many

28:26

decisions can make you anxious

28:28

and veer off the path.

28:31

So it's just then something that you do.

28:34

And yeah. That

28:36

ends up giving you a lot of freedom

28:38

in your life.

28:39

Yeah. Uh, I love

28:42

survey five heart . Um,

28:44

if you want to try it, check out Andy

28:47

Frisella , you can Google. Seventy-five hard.

28:49

It will take you to where you need to go.

28:53

It is, it is tough. It

28:55

is tough, but it is supposed to be.

28:57

Yeah. And I mean, we, as humans, we

28:59

should be doing tough things. If

29:02

you're doing something that's way too easy,

29:04

then you're not going to grow from it. As

29:06

Jordan Peterson says, you want to be in the

29:08

zone of proximal development. You

29:10

want to be, you want to push yourself

29:13

not to the point where you can't handle

29:15

it, but you do want

29:17

to get out of your comfort zone , um,

29:20

so that you will grow. So

29:22

yeah, I don't, don't like

29:24

have insane and unrealistic

29:26

expectations of yourself, but push

29:29

yourself a little. And what I found

29:31

is okay, 75 hard was a very

29:33

intimidating challenge for me. So

29:35

what I did is before that I did

29:37

the two week Chloe ting challenge.

29:41

And then, cause I thought, okay, I can do

29:43

a two week challenge. And if I can do a two week

29:45

challenge, then maybe I can do a bit

29:48

longer challenge. After that. I did a 30

29:50

day Jillian Michaels workout

29:52

challenge. And then I thought, okay, I could

29:54

do a 30 day challenge. Maybe

29:57

I can do 75 horse . That's

29:59

still quite a big job. It is still quite

30:01

a big jump , but I was, I

30:03

just realized, Hey, if I can

30:05

do this, then I can probably do 75

30:07

hard. And yeah , I had to start

30:09

over two or three, three times, but

30:12

it was still worth it. I'm so happy that

30:14

I did it. And who cares if I started

30:17

over because in my brain, while I

30:19

saw such great benefits and

30:21

thinking for six months, I read

30:23

10 pages every day for six

30:26

months, I moved my body. Where

30:28

for me, the idea of working out twice a day

30:30

for a month seemed like too much

30:33

before I started saving you five hard . And

30:35

now it seems easy to me and

30:38

I can see the progress that I've had in my

30:40

photos and it's just open worth it.

30:42

So for me, I'm almost

30:45

grateful for the extra time to work

30:47

on my mental toughness in a way. So

30:52

yeah, that is our basic

30:54

review of 75 hard.

30:57

Um, after we did the challenge, I'm

30:59

doing it again. But I will post

31:01

about that on the website.

31:04

I'll write a blog post when

31:06

I am done. And

31:09

yeah . Thanks for listening to the podcast.

31:12

Yes. I hope you

31:14

consider giving 75 heart attracts

31:17

. Yeah.

31:18

And check out all the other

31:20

great people who have done it, their progress

31:23

online. A lot of people post about it on

31:25

Instagram, on YouTube

31:28

or wherever you go. You'll

31:30

find some , yeah.

31:31

Don't listen to the people that , uh,

31:34

put it down. Yeah . It's

31:36

just not tough enough to, to make

31:38

the cut.

31:39

The one that says don't do 7,500

31:41

. It will be way too hard. And it's not healthy

31:44

for you. They're just weak.

31:47

I'm like, yes. Even if you're doing

31:49

something that's unhealthy for you, it's only 75

31:51

days. So it's more about proving

31:53

to yourself that you can push through no

31:55

matter what.

31:57

And you can do it in a way that doesn't screw

31:59

up your health and that it's still

32:01

like good.

32:05

But yeah, until next week five

32:08

and a half .