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Hey everyone, it's Chelsea Van Buskirk with the Heart AF podcast.
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Hope you guys are all doing well. So I don't know if you guys know this, but I just came up on the year anniversary
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of this podcast, which is pretty cool.
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I launched that first episode in the beginning of August of 2022.
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So I know I haven't had them going weekly like I had for the first I
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don't know, six or seven months, I think, of the show because of all the
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shit that's been going on this year. I'm getting back to it, right?
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Like we're going, I'm trying to. keep it up so I can get things going more consistently again.
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Anyway I also had a birthday, so that's fun.
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36 now. So that's pretty cool. Birthdays are a little tough for me.
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With not having, either of my parents here, it's always
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A little hard for me, right? A little emotional I get on my birthdays.
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Especially since my mother when she passed away was in 2009.
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I had just turned 22, and she passed away right after my birthday that year.
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And So that anniversary always has been intertwined with my birthday
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and it took some time to let go of some guilt I felt from that.
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I feel like I've come a long way since then, but it's still just one of those
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things where it is a little bit more emotionally heavy around my birthday.
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And then the fact that my dad is no longer here is probably even more
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heavy because I was a daddy's girl.
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Me and my dad were very close and he was somebody that always
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made my birthday, extra special.
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He would call and usually play me a birthday song.
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And, always got me really awesome gifts and, just was always super thoughtful.
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I think it's cause, being that he was in a wheelchair, like giving gifts
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was probably one of the ways that he was able to show love, just not being
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able to really do anything physically.
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He was able to, kind of show things by, gift giving.
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And I miss those little gestures or, he have actually, Hold on.
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There's an array of gifts right here from over the years from him,
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whether it was Mother's Day or my birthday or probably those two.
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Those are the two things that he normally would give me gifts for.
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But I just miss him a lot and it just becomes very apparent around my birthday.
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And so that becomes heavy. And, even like the weeks leading up, it's been strange where You know, I've
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been, if you've listened to one of the episodes, I think it was, last, around
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last winter where I was seeing my dad's initials on license plates, that's usually
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a sign I take from him, just saying he's around, he's still here, watching over
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and, I still see those every now and again and always like a little gentle
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reminder about him that he's around and, I feel like it comes and goes in waves
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where maybe, it's not that I don't think about him constantly, but I don't let
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myself remember a lot of stuff because then I just get really sad, and we were
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on a camping trip recently where it was like he was just everywhere, right?
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There's things kept popping up that were like reminiscent of my dad where
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the people we were camping with, they lived outside of Pueblo, which
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is where my dad went to college. And then it turns out the guy that we were camping with his cousins with
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the guy my dad played football with. And then my dad's old best friend happened to call me because he was in town.
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And actually this football, he brought me this football.
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This was a football that him and my dad used to practice with.
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When they were kids and growing up and playing football
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together through high school. And so it was really cool that he gave me that football.
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Just all these things, that are just your dad, right?
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And then my husband's aunt asked us when we were camping with these people because
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they were asking questions about my dad. And. She just brought up, they had such a special, relationship and, they talked
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about his accident a little bit. And so then the people I'd never met before asking questions,
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how did your dad get hurt? What, what's the story.
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And and so rehashing some of those details that, I haven't really.
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Dwelled on in a while was also emotional and I just have been really sadly
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just really missing him just, wishing I could talk to him on the phone.
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And so I was going for a walk and I have some voicemails still
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saved on my phone from him. And I wish I had saved older ones, but the ones that I have only go
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back to 2017 and and he died in 2021.
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In 2017, he had just got over a significant illness where his speech
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had been affected from that illness and you can hear him, trying to enunciate
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words and, things like that and just, listening to the way his speech was,
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how it was at that time and listening to his voice and then I have a voicemail
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from the night he went into the hospital right before he passed away.
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And I was staying at his house and it's a minute long voicemail
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because he would always call me.
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Like we had these baby monitors. So when I would stay at his house, he would have the baby monitor and he would
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call me, through the baby monitor, if he needed something like during the
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night, it could be, he wanted his sheet pulled down cause he was too hot or
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he wanted the sheet pulled up cause he was cold or, usually one of those
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things or like his mask had, he had a CPAP mask, and maybe he like hit it
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or it got, off his nose or whatever. So he would need his mask adjusted, things like that.
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And so sometimes the baby monitor wouldn't always work or I wouldn't hear it.
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And so he would use his like Alexa to call me.
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And so that was the way that he reached out to me a lot.
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So it'd be like 10 30 at night and he'd call from Alexa.
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So he had called me. And it was on my voicemail, which I was in the room at that time, but it just,
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it recorded this, three minute kind of scene from that night and I was listening
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to it as I was going for my walk. Just reminiscing, like wanting to hear his voice, right?
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And listening to his voice as I was walking that morning, I could
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hear how much in pain he was, and I had listened to this voicemail.
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I used to listen to it a lot, right after he passed, but for whatever reason, at
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this time, listening to the voicemails, even in 2017, in 2018, in 2019, like the
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struggle in his voice, and then hearing it that night that he went into the hospital
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and never made it home I had this...
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Realization on how hard he had fought to keep living for me and how hard that was
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because he was very much struggling in his body and the way his voice sounded
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that night broke my heart a little bit listening to it, this time because it was
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like that realization He was in pain.
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He had been struggling to live for a while.
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He had lived with his physical impairments being a quadriplegic
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for over 30 years, and he got to do all the things that he didn't think
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he was going to be able to, right? He fought to see me through high school.
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He fought to see me graduate college.
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He fought to see me give birth to all of his grandchildren.
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He fought to be there to roll me down the wedding aisle and have that
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father daughter dance at my wedding. And I know that was important to him.
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I literally have conversations. Saved.
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And that was actually, that's an odd thing to say that we had a conversation saved.
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So it wasn't a saved conversation, but it was a saved text message that
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I had sent my cousin after me and my dad had this conversation privately.
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He had been diagnosed with colon cancer and they were pushing
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him to do some chemotherapy, which we were both in agreement.
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We really didn't want him to do it because we thought that would just.
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end his life even quicker and give him a low quality of life while he
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was going through those treatments. It wasn't really worth it in this scenario that it was probably better to just, do
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the scans and blood work every six months and just let him live out his life the
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best he can with what he has left, right? That was our, decision we had come to.
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And and having that conversation, he had said, He wasn't afraid to die that
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the only thing he was afraid of Was leaving me behind because he knew that
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I didn't have anybody left, right? Like my mom is gone You know, my grandparents are gone.
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Like he's one of the only pieces of family, direct family that I have And
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I assured him that I'd be okay, and so for whatever reason hearing his voice
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on that voicemail and hearing, The struggle, the pain in in his voice made
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me feel a little guilty because I so selfishly did want to keep him around, I
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liked having him around and to be being grateful and that he did fight so hard
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and you wanted to stay here for me, right?
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And it wasn't just me. There was other people my two cousins that he wanted to stay around for and
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his caretaker, Jake, he wanted to stay around for, I think that was really,
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that was probably the hardest thing for him was knowing he would be leaving
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all of us physically behind, right?
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And at the same time oh my gosh, what a man that he hung on for so long and
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all the things that he struggled with living in this physical world and
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probably how free he is to be where he is now and being able to still be
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part of our lives in a different way, he's still around, but it's just, it's
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different for us who are still living in this plane, if you will, but anyway,
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it was just a sad, but also beautiful realization of how we can have these
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big feelings, whether it's grief after you've lost someone or a relationship
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that has ended that didn't, you know, end the way that you wanted it to we can get
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so focused on our own selfish feelings.
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In that relationship, we don't always acknowledge what it was like for the
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other person or what their side of the story is or what things that they
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were compromising or sacrificing for the relationship with you, right?
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Because it's hard to know. And especially if we don't always communicate clearly, right?
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But also I don't think my dad would ever say Hey, I'm like ready to be free of
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these physical struggles I'm dealing with. I'm just holding on and sacrificing that because of you, that's not something
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that my dad would have said to me ever. So there's certain things where you don't really tell people.
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So think about how often you might sacrifice or compromise
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something for yourself or someone else because you love them.
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Or you're trying to show them love or do something for them and I think, we
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don't always realize the things that they might be doing on their end, too, right?
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I talked in an episode recently about how, we can get sucked into being the
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victim and, wanting to be right and thinking the other person's wrong and
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just getting so caught up in wanting to prove the fact that we're right
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and they're wrong that we we lose track of maybe the absolute truth.
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There's our truth and then there's another person's truth, right?
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I've lost a few friendships this year that have been pretty hard.
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They were significant friendships. But I do think that, things happen and people will vibrate out of your life
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as you grow and change yourself, right? It's just a natural thing that happens.
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And sometimes it might not be your choice or maybe it is or, things just happen
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I think the way that they're meant to happen and sometimes they can be painful
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and we can blame or we can try to create stories in our head about, However,
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we wanted to see the situation, they have a side of their story also, right?
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Have you seen those posts where it's you might be like the villain
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in someone else's story, but a hero in another one, things like that.
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You can't change how people are going to think and feel about you.
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And , I know I started off on this kind of sad situation with, my grief with my dad,
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but in certain things we can be like angry or mad or sad without really realizing
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the extent of how the other person was feeling on the other end too, right?
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Like almost having a greater type of empathy for other people and
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what their side of the story is or what they were dealing with.
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Even for like my mom and her passing, like there was a lot
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of anger on my side, right? Like a lot of anger, like, why did you live the life that you did?
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Like, why did you make these choices? And, like you could have gotten better and ... She couldn't, right?
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And I don't know how she was then.
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Maybe she tried. Maybe, we don't, I don't know.
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But I know that where she is now, she's finally free.
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from the demons. She was fighting here physically, right?
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And I think, every person on this planet, like we literally just do the best we can
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with what we know at any given moment.
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And, life is a journey.
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I believe that, we choose things from a different place before we're born, right?
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Like our souls Choose to experience certain life lessons for our soul
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growth, the types of people that come in and out of our lives that we choose
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our parents, the types of parents we are going to have and the experiences
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like it's all meant for some kind of higher lesson, and it could be a lesson
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on the physical plane, or it could just be your soul's lesson to evolve into,
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something else, like getting put into this human experience to learn something,
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to gain something, to Have an impact.
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There's studies of this, but, I've heard where, certain souls, literally
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their purpose for coming into a life is for another soul's lesson.
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Like their brief soul journey on in this lifetime might have just been
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for another soul's experience, right?
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Like they their time on here was meant to be brief. It was meant to come in and help other souls with their journeys.
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And as humans, That's hard, right?
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It's still hard for humans to do, right? Like we don't always have that ability to tap into that
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kind of knowledge or knowing.
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It is there deep inside, but it's really hard to take away all the physical
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layers of our minds to really wrap around some of these things to realize that
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they were meant for our soul growth.
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They were meant for our for our higher selves, our higher evolution, however
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you want to say it, they're meant to bring us back to that, divine power, that
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connection to know that we aren't alone, that we all come from the same space.
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you always analyze certain like tragedies and things like people
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say, why would God let this happen? Things like that. And, it's not really, I believe it's not, God who's doing these things, it's humans.
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It's humans that are using their human things, right?
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Our human experiences. And that's the humanness in us, right?
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That we get these angry feelings and, whatever.
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Evil stuff, that's not God. That's not where we come from.
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That's darkness. That's humanness. That's stuff where we get sucked in.
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Where we're not letting any light in. And we're closed off.
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And, I can go really deep and all that kind of stuff, but honestly,
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I think it's just very important to realize that every relationship,
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whether it's a parent, a family relationship, a friend, a partner, a
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child, like there's a reason for that relationship in your life, and it
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can be really easy to get almost self centered in some of these relationships
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on how the relationships affect us. But it is needed to occasionally take a step back and take a look and see what's
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going on the other side of things, right? What's going on with this person?
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I've been struggling a lot as a mother recently.
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Like, all of my kids are at different stages.
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And so I, I have, a lot of struggles with my daughter, my oldest
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daughter who's, a budding teenager. And then my youngest son who has some sensory issues and some behavior stuff.
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And it's just, he's been very challenging. And I did start a parenting class recently and one of the things that, is
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stressed is instead of getting yourself worked up and reacting to whatever
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your child might be doing is to get curious and try to understand where
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their behavior is coming from or trying to ask more questions and get on their
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level and see why they're feeling the way they are feeling or what is the
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unmet need that is causing the behavior.
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And that's been a huge awakening for myself and becoming more
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aware of those types of things. And I will tell you when I'm in a situation where I can become aware
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of me, like starting to react. And I can calm my own self down instead of getting worked up and
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coming, almost at either a defensive or, I've been like disrespected.
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So I'm like, coming at them in this like a combative mode or getting angry
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and worked up being able to recognize when I'm getting that way and to
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be able to, take that step back and calm myself and get curious and start
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asking them questions or start trying to be more interested in why they're
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behaving the way they are, why we're having this, altercation, if you will.
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I've seen as my defenses go down, my child's defenses go down.
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We're able to have more conversations. I'm able to empathize or see where they're coming from.
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And that allows me to get them down or dysregulated into a more neutral state.
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And then we can actually have a better neutral conversation to actually come
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to a solution or like a compromise or something where we can work together.
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And I know that sounds a little complicated, and it's not something
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that you can just change, right? We get stuck in our habits, we all have our internal triggers and
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things, but it's been a really helpful way to slow down and become aware.
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And very similar to where I started off with this story, is just
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really becoming aware of where other people are coming from.
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What kinds of things they're doing, and being more understanding and having
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compassion for other people and being willing to let our defenses down and be
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more understanding and, maybe realizing how we might be selfish in some ways.
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We're all entitled to our wants and needs, and I think those are fair, and
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we're, it's fine to have our own feelings, but it's also nice to just be able to
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realize where other people might be coming from, where other people might
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need some compassion and understanding, and know that you're not alone, and just
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because you're having these feelings in the situation with my dad it's
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okay for me to be sad, but It's also okay, to be grateful for what I had.
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It's also okay to realize what all my dad did, right?
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And to be, like, even more grateful for that. And to just keep his memory alive instead of being afraid of the
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sadness and all these things. And, again, almost like focusing on like the positives instead of the negative kind
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of things or, I think back about my mom, like maybe I don't focus on the ways I
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felt hurt and betrayed by her, like maybe focusing on those rare moments where we
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had some good times or the times she did show up or the things she did do that,
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were showing me love, like focusing on those things or Looking back at some of
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the friendships I've had and remembering the good things that they brought into my
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life and the lessons I might have learned through their friendships, instead of
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seeing like the ways I feel like I was hurt by them or the ways I was offended
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by them, like just keeping, the focus on, they are a person too, they're going
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through their own journey and they may or may not have meant to hurt me, right?
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I don't know. And instead of dwelling on and feeling hurt and like a victim, I can
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let it be what it was and appreciate the goodness I got from it and
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appreciate the lesson for whatever that lesson was for my soul to have that
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interaction with that other person. So yeah, I think that's where this episode is really getting to
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becoming aware and this curious part.
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Right? Approaching different things with a curious mind and seeing how we can
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see things from other perspectives or from another person's point of view.
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If it's somebody that we may no longer have that relationship anymore and
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have some feelings about that, right? Like looking at those relationships through that curiosity lens and where
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they might be coming from and having that understanding and compassion
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for ourselves and the other people that come in and out of our lives.
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Please let me know if you have any feedback or anything you want to add
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about any experiences you may have had or realizations or what you think
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about what I've talked about today. You can leave a comment on the, this podcast video on YouTube, or you can
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send me a DM on Instagram or Facebook.
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My handle is @chelsea.Vanbuskirk and I will see you guys soon.
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Peace.
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