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the Herd wherever you may be and

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a Monday. Thanks for making us part of your day.

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One hour from now. Colin

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was right, Colin was wrong. Plenty

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of boat Mikeelurban, Julian

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Edelman both stopping by today. We're

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jammed. Both of us had a good weekend.

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Ten and O combined on our picks. That was nice.

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But we talk about big games right

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like like that's the difference

1:01

between the halves and the have knocks. Right

1:03

for quarterbacks, it's can you play from behind?

1:05

Not with the lead in her teams? How

1:08

are you in these marquee headline national

1:10

TV standalone games against really good

1:12

teams? Not good?

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God, I can't wait for this ran.

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Okay, here we go. Two things are

1:18

absolutely, inarguably and

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abundantly clear. San

1:23

Francisco when it comes to coaching, scheme

1:25

and roster is a mile

1:28

better than Dallas. It is real sugar

1:30

against sweetener one's fake. Okay,

1:33

it's not close coaching roster

1:36

and scheme and not close. The

1:38

second thing, and I'm not sure how close this

1:40

is. Maybe it's closer, but

1:42

Brock Purdy is better than Dak Prescott.

1:46

Stop arguing bothered by it. Really,

1:48

when Dak entered the league as a fourth round

1:50

pick, he was better than some first

1:52

and second round quarterbacks. You

1:55

didn't have a problem embracing that. He was more

1:57

mature, leadership, mobility, he

1:59

had the factor. So

2:01

I'm supposed to wait for brock Perty's ten to

2:04

zero. He was severely

2:06

underdrafted. The kid is good. How good, I don't

2:08

know. But he's absolutely

2:10

a more natural, accurate thrower than Dak.

2:14

He's cheaper than Dak. That stuff

2:16

matters in a salary cap league. And

2:18

now I think he's as or probably

2:20

more mobile than Dak because Dak's had all

2:23

those injuries through the years, right,

2:25

so he moves really well. Dak

2:27

doesn't. I mean. The other

2:29

thing is decision making is

2:31

arguably the most important trait for quarterbacks.

2:34

I always thought Dak was pretty good. Perty's

2:36

great. The kid always throws

2:38

to the right person. So anybody bothered

2:41

by this take that Purdy's better than Dak.

2:44

Go back seven years when Dak

2:46

had a nice preseason

2:49

game against LA went ten for twelve with

2:51

two touchdowns, and Cowboy fans went

2:53

bonkers. I got cramped

2:56

for a month because I suggested, well,

2:58

you got Zeke a top five d best

3:00

on line in football. It is

3:03

a preseason game from a

3:05

franchise that just moved across the country.

3:08

And now you want me to wait to say, yeah,

3:10

Brock, Perty's good. He's ten to zero in the

3:12

regular season, highest passer rating

3:15

if he retired today, highest passer

3:17

rating in league history. He never throws

3:19

interceptions, and he's just a more accurate

3:22

thrower and distributor of the football than Dak

3:24

Prescott. It's not close.

3:25

Listen.

3:26

You can keep giving Kyle Shanahan

3:28

all the credit, but Kyle Shanahan's

3:31

a coach, not a magician. He couldn't make CJ.

3:34

Bethard work. He

3:36

couldn't make Trey Lance work. Trey

3:39

was a first rounder. Bethard was a middle

3:41

to high draft choice, third round.

3:43

I think he couldn't make those guys work. Brock

3:46

Purdy's good now, I don't know how

3:48

good. Does Shanahan deserve some

3:51

credit, absolutely, But on balls

3:53

thrown downfield ten plus yards

3:56

and pretty, that's slinging it. You're throwing the

3:58

ball down the field pretty this year leads

4:01

the NFL and passer writing touchdown to interception

4:03

and completion percentage downfield rows.

4:06

Greg Cosell warned us about this a

4:08

month ago. He came on and

4:11

he said, Dak now is a pocket

4:13

passer. He does not move well, that's

4:16

all he is. He's a distributor, not a playmaker.

4:18

Early Dak could be a playmaker. He's not

4:21

anymore. Now he's a pocket guy. Well,

4:23

that was never a strength anyway. It was his

4:25

intelligence, his intangibles, his

4:27

leadership, his maturity, his ability

4:29

to move. Now he's just a pocket guy, and

4:31

not a very good one. Twenty one picks

4:34

in his last nineteen starts, almost all of them

4:36

from the pocket. Okay, So

4:38

San Francisco, better roster, not

4:40

close, better coach, not close, and

4:42

a better quarterback maybe closer. Yes,

4:45

Christian McCaffrey's great. Christian

4:47

McCaffrey last night averaged two

4:49

point seven yards of carry. It

4:52

was not about Christian McCaffrey. It was not about

4:54

Debo. It was about a

4:57

coach we know that's better than McCarthy,

4:59

and aquarterback now that's better than

5:01

Dak. It's true. I look

5:03

at the first ten starts of his career, all

5:06

time ranks, he's first or second, and everything

5:08

the dude is good. He's

5:11

accurate, he moves pretty

5:13

well, he's obviously coachable, he

5:15

lets it go, he sees the

5:17

field. He wasn't the only

5:20

reason for the win. I'm not suggesting

5:22

that we know the rosters

5:24

better and we know the coach is better, and we know the

5:26

schemes are better. I don't even know what Dallas's offense

5:29

is, but brock perty last

5:31

night, folks, that's what That's what

5:33

an a quarterback looks like. Maybe

5:35

he's not a down the road, but he's an

5:37

a now. And here's Kyle after.

5:41

He was really good.

5:42

Everybody was pretty good.

5:44

But thought he missed

5:46

one throw throughout the day from what it seemed

5:49

like just a little behind BA in the first quarter on one,

5:51

and everything else seemed pretty falllessed he

5:53

did a great job versus real good pass

5:55

for us and tight coverages.

5:57

Many of those are design

6:00

throws, schemed throws.

6:03

Guess what, that's

6:06

most of the league. So were Belichick

6:08

and Brady. They were schemed. Josh McDaniel's

6:11

Dante Scarnekia choreography.

6:13

You still got to make them. And brock

6:15

perty makes him at a higher rate

6:18

than almost anybody in the league. Dude

6:21

is good.

6:21

How good?

6:22

I don't know. I'll leave at the scout, but

6:24

he's good, all right. The

6:27

New York Jets thought

6:29

they'd win the last

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pick. I didn't make thirty

6:33

one points for the Jets. How about that? You gotta feel

6:35

good about that. So everybody keeps

6:38

telling me this, Hey, Russell Wilson is

6:40

not the problem. Who

6:42

gives a rip? Is he the solution? The

6:46

internet's for blaming people. I need solutions.

6:49

Is Russell good enough to be a solution? Joe

6:52

Burrow bad offensive line and a coach

6:54

with a losing record, got to a Super Bowl.

6:57

Joe Burrow was the solution. Josh

7:00

Shakey Oline in run game for five years.

7:02

His record's fifty five and twenty six. He's

7:05

the solution. Patrick Mahomes receiving

7:07

corps young, not that talented. They

7:09

want again, he's the solution,

7:12

justin Herbert. We don't like the coach. He

7:14

keeps winning. He's the solution.

7:17

The internet in twitters for blame. I

7:19

don't care. Once you

7:21

pay a quarterback big boy money,

7:24

if he's not special, you become the Titans

7:27

and the Vikings. The Titans

7:29

have a great coach, feels

7:31

like the Vikings always have a world class receiver.

7:34

We don't consider them super Bowl viable.

7:38

I don't think Russell Wilson's the primary

7:40

issue here either, But once you pay

7:42

a quarterback that kind of cash, he's got

7:44

to be the solution. And I'm not sure he's

7:46

that, because you're either part

7:49

of the solution or the problem. Once

7:51

you're making thirty forty fifty million as a quarterback,

7:54

it doesn't matter whose fault it is, you

7:57

are the issue if you're not the solutions.

8:00

Sean Payton deserve criticism.

8:02

Yes, he got money in

8:04

power, and I've said this for years. Power

8:07

for a few years hurt Pete Carroll. Now

8:09

he's left the drafting back to his GM John

8:12

Snyder. Power has hurt Bill

8:14

Belichick. He has

8:16

too much of it. He's a lousy drafter,

8:18

but a good coach, and now his coaching

8:21

can overcome his drafting. Sean

8:23

Payton came into the building. He didn't have his

8:25

Mickey Loomis, he didn't have his GM. They

8:29

retained the other GM,

8:31

the GM that was there before Sean

8:33

got there. I think he's done a pretty good job, but

8:35

it's not Sean's guy. And Sean's got the money

8:37

and the power on the contract. So Sean

8:40

says, hey, let's go pay for a right tackle. They

8:43

overspent for it. He can't pass block. That's

8:45

why I said, the minute you get

8:47

all the power, you got

8:49

nowhere to hide. I'd rather have a little

8:51

less power and say I

8:53

got deniability. I didn't do that. My

8:56

I just do this that coaches

8:58

all want power Bill Parcels.

9:00

If I'm making dinner, I get a shot for the groceries.

9:02

And maybe Parcels could pull it off. But

9:05

it's hard enough to be a great GM, it's

9:07

hard enough to be a great coach when you try to do

9:09

both. Belichick Pete Carroll legends it

9:11

doesn't work. You see how bad

9:13

the drafts get, and so Denver

9:16

doesn't do anything particularly well consistently.

9:19

Whereas the Jets are not a great team,

9:21

but to Robert Sola's credit, they're

9:24

as good as their personnel allows

9:26

them to be. They're not gonna win track meets.

9:28

They don't have the quarterback or the deep receiving

9:31

corps, but they run the football

9:33

well because they have good backs, and they play

9:35

excellent defense because they have good personnel.

9:38

You don't have to win thirteen games

9:40

a year to be a good coach. Do you

9:43

win or do things

9:45

well that your personnel allows

9:48

you to do well. Atlanta's not gonna win

9:50

fourteen games. They don't have the dudes, But

9:52

can Arthur Smith win eight? With

9:55

mostly solid young offensive

9:57

personnel. The Jets do

9:59

something very well. It's where

10:01

their best players are. They have

10:04

one big time receiver and one big

10:06

time back and a couple decent alignment

10:09

but the corners are banged up yesterday. They're

10:12

not healthy. They're on the road, and

10:14

they really did what they are capable

10:17

of doing well very well. So

10:19

Sean Payton got the money, the leverage,

10:22

the power, and they lead the NFL right now

10:24

second in the NFL and penalties, so they don't

10:26

do anything right and they have some good players. Denver

10:28

and the Jets are pretty close in terms

10:31

of talent. Now, Jets have better defensive

10:33

talent. I think the Broncos have some better

10:35

offensive talent, more guys that can run and catch.

10:38

But does Sean Payton deserve credit? Yep,

10:41

It's a cautionary tale. Be careful

10:43

for what you ask for when you're a head coach.

10:47

Take a little less money, get a little less power,

10:49

and just concentrate on what you do well.

10:51

Here Sean, after no one

10:53

cares about what ails us or what was this?

10:55

You know, they want to see production and

10:58

this one hurts this we

11:00

didn't play.

11:00

Well there obviously was a lot of focus on this game.

11:03

Your USA Today comments regarding

11:05

Hackett, how do you look at that as a chapter

11:07

in your coaching career where some people might

11:10

say Hackett got revenged today.

11:11

Yeah, listen, they played better than us.

11:13

Do you regret though those comments making

11:15

those comments?

11:16

Is I already addressed that though,

11:18

And it's a fair question, but I

11:20

think we already addressed that.

11:22

The next day, bit of a mess.

11:24

They got Kansas City coming up twice. They're

11:26

staring down the barrel one in five, one in six.

11:29

So it is not good. But you have to

11:31

feel good because I'll say this about Robert

11:34

Salat and you I think you wanted to run him out

11:36

of town a couple of weeks ago. Come on,

11:38

now, you have to be fair with Sala. The key

11:40

with coaching is when a coach

11:43

takes over an organization, generally

11:45

it's because the other guy like underachieved

11:48

in the view of the owner in GM, so he

11:50

was obviously not winning enough. So Sala

11:53

has limitations. Jets whiffed on a quarterback

11:55

in the left tackle, Well, they're not as

11:57

good offensively. If Makai Becked

12:00

was a great left tackle, I would think differently

12:02

about the team. If they had a second receiver

12:04

that hit. Didn't they draft Rondell

12:07

Moore? Wasn't that their guy? Somebody

12:09

else? They had another receiver with a bunch of yeah

12:11

it was what Baylor kid or something they had something? Yeah,

12:13

yeah, if that guy would have been a star and Bechten's

12:16

a star, then I would be more demanding

12:18

on Robert Sola. But the Jets

12:20

are good at what his personnel

12:23

allows them to be good at, and that's good

12:25

coaching. Lincoln Riley's defense

12:27

isn't great. That's because most

12:29

of their good players are on offense and the best quarterback

12:32

in the country. So when it comes to coaching, I don't

12:34

want to necessarily just see wins. But

12:36

Denver's got like good back, good

12:39

receivers, an expensive capable

12:41

quarterback. They should have a better left tackle

12:44

like and they're not good enough offensively,

12:47

so to me, they're underachieving and a really

12:49

smart offensive coach. The Jets do

12:51

what they can do well, there's

12:54

just some things they can't. They can't win track meets

12:56

well, don't have enough skill on the outside.

12:58

Can't do anything in the red zone. Over five,

13:00

I mean, they scored thirty one points, had one offensive

13:02

touchdown. Like, let's settle down with the Nathaniel

13:05

Hackett has solved things. He is doing more pre

13:07

stamp motion, which is freeing up

13:09

the run game in Breeze Hall. But they're limited and you

13:11

know, they got a tough one against the Eagles. The trenches

13:13

are looking bad. Avt got hurt, McKai

13:16

Beckton got hurt.

13:17

Like they're in.

13:18

Let's sellas job is not safe yet. I

13:21

just wonder when the Denver fire sale begins,

13:24

Jerry Judy, what can you get for him?

13:25

Well, I think I think they're I think

13:27

that's a real question, Like we thought it was gonna

13:29

be Arizona, and it may still be. But now

13:32

this trading deadline, Denver's got pieces.

13:34

The dimblem is what do you tank

13:36

it for?

13:37

Colin?

13:37

What are you selling off for? Because Russell Wilson's

13:39

contract is just kicking in. It's

13:41

like it's gonna be really tough

13:43

to move off him. I don't think

13:45

there's an easy solution for Sawn Peyton.

13:48

I don't know.

13:49

This is a big lift. I think it's bigger

13:51

than Sean thought. It's a big lift.

13:53

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14:00

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14:02

By the way, it's Elijah Moore for the Jets, not Rondell.

14:04

That's the one they shipped off to Cleveland. All

14:07

right, So last night Dallas and San

14:09

Francisco. I thought San Francisco was win. I thought

14:11

it would be closed twenty four to twenty. I think

14:13

they have a better coach, better schemes. I had said last

14:15

week, you're going to see a coaching gap in this game. I

14:17

didn't think the pretty Dak gap would

14:19

be that big. But this is a reoccurring

14:21

result for the Cowboys. They don't win

14:24

big games, and McCarthy and Dak in

14:26

these big games, you often go, wow,

14:28

they look really second tier. It

14:31

is time for a reality check. Dak

14:33

in his career against playoff teams,

14:35

and I will count San Francisco as a team

14:37

that makes the playoffs. He would now be seventeen

14:40

and twenty eight. Once the last time

14:42

Dak went toe to toe with an elite quarterback

14:45

in this league in their prime and outdueled

14:47

him, it just doesn't happen much. So I'm watching

14:49

Trevor Lawrence yesterday in London, just

14:51

sling that puppy all over the yard.

14:54

I'm watching Joe Burrow pick apart

14:56

Arizona throw for three hundred and something

14:59

yards touchdown the bad old line.

15:01

I'm watching two is bad game this year

15:03

be three hundred yards. Dak has

15:05

become the definition of average leading.

15:08

He has a one zero three passer rating trailing

15:10

at sixty three. He's He's

15:13

just not a guy that can, after you fall behind,

15:15

bring anything to the table. So Dak

15:18

doesn't even to me anyway past the eye

15:20

test anymore. His ball accuracy,

15:22

his ball velocity, He's

15:25

no longer mobile, he doesn't pass the

15:27

eye test. And then there's Mike McCarthy,

15:29

And I mean, we don't want to beat up on him, but I

15:31

always think this, what

15:34

is Dallas's offense? Offensive

15:36

coaches like to show off.

15:40

McVeigh sometimes can overthink the room,

15:43

right, Mike McDaniel can almost get too

15:45

clever for his own good. Like offensive

15:47

coaches, they got more tricks

15:49

than defensive guys. They love to show off.

15:52

You see it with San Francisco and Miami.

15:54

By the way, Shane Steichen is using Gardner

15:57

Minshew to win games. He is a great play

15:59

caller. You see it with Ben Johnson

16:01

and the Lions, Kyle Shanahan, McVeigh,

16:04

Miami, Arthur Smith

16:06

is winning games with Desmond Ritter and

16:08

showing off and giving you tricks. Dak

16:13

and McCarthy, What is that?

16:16

What are you? It

16:18

doesn't pass the eye test? And so

16:20

Dallas isn't clever. They're not dynamic,

16:23

they're not fun, and they're not showing

16:25

off. They're boring. It's

16:27

a boring, dull offense with

16:30

one really really talented wide receiver.

16:32

So I you know, Aaron Rodgers, I can

16:35

have disagreements with him, but you know he

16:37

was right on that This offense is a bit

16:39

of an eye roll. There's just nothing to

16:41

it. And I was thinking about this this morning driving

16:43

in, is that the NFL has

16:46

gotten really smart, really

16:49

fast. It was almost like Baseball the movie

16:51

Moneyball. The game

16:53

in Baseball got really smart with analytics

16:56

really fast, and a lot of the old scouts

16:59

sounded like dim bulbs in the money

17:01

and Moneyball. Remember that movie. Some

17:03

of those old scouts sitting at the table relics

17:06

Jurassic Dinosaurs. This

17:08

game has gotten really smart, really fast.

17:10

Mike McDaniel, Shanahan McVeigh,

17:13

Nick SARIANI shocking Ben

17:16

Johnson like there, I mean this Shane

17:18

Stiken guy, he's winning with Gardner Minshew.

17:20

I watched the Colt yesterday and I'm like, he

17:22

may call as good a game as anybody in this league

17:25

could with Gardner Minshew and they're

17:27

winning games. It's good

17:29

teams. And so here

17:32

was McCarthy, who hasn't kept

17:34

up after.

17:36

You know, the biggest thing is for you know, us to be accountable.

17:40

It was clearly humbling, but

17:43

it is one game. You know, start with me.

17:46

I didn't do good job the night. We will clearly acknowledge

17:48

it. And I'm not a burn to take God, I think

17:50

that's a crooked. They played extremely

17:53

well and we did not.

17:54

And here's the thing we could. I could blame Dak

17:57

all day. I've never been a huge Dak guy. I've

17:59

said he's pretty good, he's BB plus guy.

18:01

For years. I've said Dak is Kirk Cousins

18:03

with a better brand, and I've said that forever.

18:05

He's a little more mobile than Kirk Cousins

18:08

in his prime, much more mobile, but doesn't throw

18:10

us pretty a ball and as accurate as Kirk

18:12

Cousins. But their stats are about the same thing.

18:14

One's the coach, the Cowboy quarterback,

18:17

one's the Viking quarterback. And the Vikings are

18:19

always seemingly in the shadow of

18:22

the Packers. So even in their own division,

18:24

the Bears Monsters of Midway

18:27

and the Bears, the ninety five Bears

18:29

and the Bears, the Great Bears Tea,

18:31

and then there's Far and there's Aaron Rodgers, there's

18:33

the Vikings their stable. So even

18:35

in their own division, they don't get a lot of love, right,

18:37

and so the Cowboys are a bigger brand,

18:39

and Dak to a large degree, as Kirk Cousins, who nobody

18:42

likes until the Netflix series. Now everybody likes

18:44

him. We like Dak, but in

18:46

these big spots he

18:49

looks second tier. Here he is after.

18:53

Didn't see it coming. As you said, put everything into

18:55

this and got punched in the mouth. Called

18:58

a couple of weeks ago humbling against Arizona,

19:02

but this maybe the most humbling game I've ever been a

19:04

part of. Felt

19:06

good about the preparation, felt good about everything

19:09

honestly coming into this game, matchups, and

19:11

they beat us in every aspect.

19:14

For the record, if Dak had Shanahan,

19:16

he would be better. I don't think he'd be as

19:18

good as brock Purty because I don't think he throws the ball that

19:20

well. But some of this is

19:23

the setup. Games

19:25

gotten smart. It's gotten smart offensively

19:28

very fast. The rules benefit the offense,

19:30

and offensive coaches love to show off,

19:32

sometimes to their own detriment. I would

19:34

love to see Mike McCarthy show off. Not

19:37

run a quarterback draw with seventeen seconds

19:39

and argue we practiced it a million

19:41

times. It gives you at least three seconds on

19:43

that. I'd like to

19:45

see some showing off, please. I

19:48

know humility is important in life, but a

19:51

little showing off a little dynamic a little

19:53

fun, not Micah leading the way every week.

19:56

Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd

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weekdays, and noone Easter, not a I'm pacific.

20:01

I think I got too much sleep last night. I

20:04

don't sleep eight and a half hours much through oh

20:06

Man, go to one hundred miles an hour today. So thirty

20:08

four nothing saints over New

20:10

England. And everybody, of course is blaming mac

20:12

Jones, and that's fine, but it's

20:15

time to also start

20:17

asking questions about Bill Belichick.

20:20

They drafted three guards and two kickers

20:23

as the slowest receiving unit in the NFL.

20:26

They overspent and over committed to Juju

20:30

Smith Schuster. They re signed

20:32

DeVante Parker. That can't separate. They

20:34

can't draft tight ends, so they

20:37

overspend for them. That's not mac

20:39

Jones' fault. Belichick

20:41

has too much power, and Belichick, the GM

20:43

is failing. Belichick the head coach. And

20:46

I've been on this for years. Belichick

20:48

as a historian. He slobbers

20:50

over nineteen sixty three linebacker

20:53

play. He's a historian.

20:55

He's not a revolutionary.

20:57

He is Ken Burns. He is not Steve

21:00

Jobs. This is a guy

21:02

that gets misty eyed talking about long

21:04

snappers. He was asked a

21:06

question about long snappers and kickers

21:09

a couple of years ago. He went ten minutes

21:11

straight and fifteen hundred words. That's

21:13

who Belichick is. He's wonky. Brady

21:17

hit a lot of that. Brady did the offense,

21:19

and so did Josh McDaniels and Dante's Garnekia.

21:22

They're all gone and Bill

21:24

is unraveling. Mac

21:27

Jones didn't draft three guards and two kickers.

21:29

They have no receivers that can

21:31

separate, and yet they sign

21:34

and re sign guys who can't.

21:36

Okay, Belichick. Post

21:39

Tom was

21:42

overcoming Belichick the GM

21:44

for a few years, and now he can't.

21:47

He didn't have any players. And

21:49

when the few that are really good, Christian

21:51

Gonzalez or Matt Judong gets hurt, they got

21:53

nobody. I mean, the Dolphins are scoring

21:56

seventy points. New

21:58

England doesn't have a receiver on ther an

22:00

elite receiver who separates, and

22:03

a lot of it's hubris. And this happens

22:05

all the time. There's three things

22:07

to me that have really

22:10

exposed Belichick. Number One, he lost Brady

22:12

Duh. This happens when quarterbacks

22:15

who are great leave. Coaches got

22:17

to go find a new one. Ask Miami Denver.

22:20

It's hard to replace a Marino or Elway. Green

22:22

Bay did it with Farv. It's almost impossible.

22:25

Colts did it. Would luck to Peyton. Manning didn't

22:27

last long, so he lost Brady. The

22:29

NFL also pivoted to offense. So

22:31

the things you could do fifteen years ago

22:33

ten years ago, you can't. And then Bill

22:36

got arrogant. A

22:38

defensive coordinator is offensive coordinator.

22:40

Bill got arrogant. And

22:43

I see that all the time. But if you watch Andy Reid's

22:45

teams and Kyle Shanahan's teams, I

22:47

mean they run circles around the Patriots. Miami's

22:50

averaging thirty six points a game. New England's

22:52

averaging eleven. And here's the

22:54

other thing is that if you were a linebacker,

22:56

we always view the quarterback differently and pay

22:59

them differently. But if you were an edge rusher with some

23:01

talent, a linebacker with talent with

23:03

Belichick, you'd get better every year. Why

23:07

is Mac Jones getting worse every year? Is

23:09

he getting less talented? I

23:11

mean his rookie year, he completed sixty

23:13

eight percent of his throat and had a ninety two and a half

23:16

passer rating and was ten and seven. Why

23:18

is he getting worse because what's

23:20

around him is getting worse. He's

23:24

a revolutionary, right, that's what you need.

23:26

That's what Andy Reid is and Shanahan and McVeigh,

23:29

they're revolutionaries. They're changing the game,

23:31

Mike McDaniel, that's

23:33

what happens when a culture changes. You need a visionary

23:36

who can see around corners. That's

23:38

not what Bill is. He's a historian. You

23:41

hear him talking about guys that played in the seventies,

23:43

eighties and nineties. His dad was big. I

23:45

think in scouting. He's an

23:47

academic and a historian. He's

23:50

not going to reinvent the wheel. They just

23:52

don't. And so you can

23:54

bang on mac Jones and obviously he's

23:56

got a low ceiling. But even Bill yesterday

23:59

acknowledged they're ready to start from

24:01

scratch.

24:02

We we got to find a way to, you know, playing coach better

24:05

than that.

24:05

So let's wanting to start

24:07

all over and.

24:11

Get back on a better tracking round.

24:12

Right now, Coach, when so many things go wrong, where

24:14

do you start?

24:16

Where do you prioritize fixing the problems?

24:18

Yeah, that's what I just said, and start over again.

24:20

You said you guys need to start over.

24:23

Have you ever had to do that before? Five

24:26

games in the season, just for reference? I mean,

24:28

is this something new?

24:29

Yeah, I've done before.

24:31

What does that entail?

24:33

Starting over?

24:35

Starting over?

24:38

All?

24:38

Right, let's talk college football. I thought Texas

24:40

would beat Oklahoma. They beat them last year

24:42

forty nine to nothing, and Oklahoma came

24:45

focused. They out coached them, out

24:47

prepared them, and outplayed them. It

24:49

felt like it was Oklahoma's day, even though it came

24:52

down to the final play. For the Sooners,

24:54

it feels very good. You were humiliated

24:56

last year. But here's the reality. Neither

24:59

one is probably gonna face a

25:01

ranked team the rest of the way, and they're gonna They're

25:03

gonna play again, and the Longhorns

25:06

roster I'll take that and revenge

25:08

now will flip to Texas's side. Texas

25:11

outgained him, Texas probably wouldn't

25:13

have three turn rovers if they played again. Texas

25:16

lost on the final play, they'll be favored

25:18

in the next game to win. And so this

25:21

was a You know, Texas also beat

25:23

Bama on the road. Oklahoma

25:26

doesn't have that kind of win. So when they face

25:28

the next time, if

25:30

Texas wins, Oklahoma's in the Allible

25:32

Bowl, Texas

25:35

has a big road win. That's the advantage of scheduling

25:38

that and not having Cupcake City. So

25:40

when Oklahoma plays the next time, all

25:42

the pressures on Oklahoma. Texas

25:44

beat Bama and loses on the final play

25:46

to Oklahoma. If they beat Oklahoma

25:49

in any fashion with the win on the road

25:51

and losing only on the last played Oklahoma,

25:53

they'll be in the playoff, so that the

25:56

season is not lost for Texas. I would

25:58

argue I'd take their roster right now now and

26:01

their quarterback, believe it or not, and

26:03

the offensive coach and revenge is a

26:05

factor, and the win over Bama.

26:08

Texas is fine. They just got to win the rest of the

26:10

games and they'll be favored heavily in all of them. But

26:13

this Oklahoma schedule,

26:15

by not scheduling a big dog that

26:18

next time they play them, they gotta win that thing

26:21

Texas. Texas has to win two.

26:23

But I to me, Oklahoma with a loss

26:26

cannot get into the playoff. Texas can. They

26:28

lost at the right time early in the season, They're

26:31

probably gonna face them again. I mean, don't get

26:33

me wrong, it

26:35

was a great, great last drive

26:37

by Oklahoma. Brent Venables

26:40

had a hell of a day. They out prepared them,

26:42

and they deserve to win. But we're in episode

26:44

five and we got like six

26:47

left. We're only

26:49

forty percent through succession. We're

26:51

not close to the end. Here, take

26:54

a deep breath. Ok

26:57

here with Sark after the loss.

27:00

The promising thing is, I know we can play better

27:02

than we played today, and we will, but

27:04

we need to coach better. Proud of the guys, proud of

27:06

the way they battled and competed, but

27:09

we need to play better football if we want

27:11

to be the team that I know we're capable of being.

27:13

I thought our guys showed a lot of fight.

27:15

And grit and resiliency to put

27:17

ourselves in position to win a game when we weren't

27:19

our best against a good

27:21

football team.

27:22

Yeah, it's okay. You're allowed to lose to

27:24

Oklahoma thirty four to thirty.

27:27

They're gonna face them again. The

27:29

likelihood they're gonna face them again and they'll

27:32

have revenge on their side. Texas

27:34

is fine. Oklahoma's better than I thought. Take

27:37

a deep breath. This is just episode

27:40

four. There's about five six more episodes to go.

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28:13

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28:15

in here we go. Where Colin was right,

28:18

lazing five was a perfect five and zero.

28:20

We now have a winning record on the year at twelve

28:22

eleven and two, despite a horrible start.

28:24

We've hit on nine of ten picks. And

28:27

uh, I got to tell you the Bengals pick

28:29

keep your eye on Cincinnati. That

28:31

looked like the old Cincinnati. A

28:34

lot of people thought I was nuts, but

28:36

I kind of felt like Joe Burrow healthy.

28:38

The Bengals get healthy. That's the one that impressed

28:41

me.

28:41

Where Colin was wrong.

28:43

I'm a huge Sean Payton fan, but their

28:46

second in the NFL in penalties.

28:48

They have improved Russell he has

28:50

statistically, but he got the

28:53

money in the power overpaid for a right tackle.

28:55

The defense has regressed, the public

28:57

comments on Hackett, the penalties. Now

29:00

they're on a short week to face the Chiefs.

29:02

Good luck staring at one in five

29:05

sean. So far, it's been a big lift,

29:07

and it hasn't been his best coaching.

29:09

Where Colin was right.

29:11

I told fans last week get

29:13

over where Brock Perdy was drafted.

29:15

Kurt Warner was undrafted, so was Tony

29:18

Romo. The goat Brady drafted

29:20

late. The kid is good. I don't know if he's great,

29:22

but he's really good. He moves

29:24

well, he throws the ball down the

29:26

field. He doesn't have a whip. He's not Mahomes,

29:30

you know, he's not electric with his feet.

29:32

But the dude can play. He sees

29:35

the field. He doesn't miss open Guys

29:37

who cares. Once you're in the

29:40

league, I don't care where you're drafted. If you

29:42

can play, you can play. Where

29:44

Colin was right, I defended Mac

29:46

Jones in the offseason. I know he's got a

29:48

low ceiling, but he can be accurate. He has

29:50

regressed his career. His passer rating

29:53

now is seventy four. This season, I

29:55

think a lot of it's he didn't have anybody

29:58

to throw two. But he's been benched

30:00

in two straight weeks. He's alienated

30:02

teammates, the coaching staff last

30:05

year by going out of the building. I

30:07

think he's regressed, and I was wrong

30:09

on that.

30:10

Where Colin was right.

30:11

I said it Friday. I don't trust the Cowboys

30:13

in big games. Listen, they haven't

30:16

won a lot of big games in Dak's tenure.

30:18

We know they haven't been great since you know, nineteen

30:20

ninety five. But the three wins this year were against

30:22

the Jets, the Giants in New England week

30:25

offenses that they can take a lead and

30:27

play bully ball and play avalanche

30:30

football and play downhill. But I

30:32

think when you're talking about a team that you got to get

30:34

into a little bit of a track meet or

30:36

it's going to be situational football. This

30:38

is what I said last week. I don't trust McCarthy

30:41

in situational football against

30:43

some of these young coaches like McVeigh and Shanahan.

30:46

Where Colin was wrong.

30:48

Brenton Venables was really sideways

30:51

first year at Oklahoma. I thought he

30:54

out coached Sark. I thought that last drive

30:56

was amazing. I thought situationally,

30:58

I thought they outplayed him. They were more prepared

31:01

now. They lost forty nine nothing last year, and

31:03

I had said, I thought it was going to be a really good first

31:05

half and Texas would pull away. But it was Oklahoma

31:08

who made the big plays. Hey Dylan

31:10

Gabriel, who's just a guy

31:12

I thought played really, really well. Now he got

31:15

banged up last year, didn't play in this game. But

31:17

Oklahoma looked like a top five team.

31:19

Good for Brent Venables. He righted

31:21

the ship.

31:22

Where Colin was right.

31:24

I said Anthony Richardson's rookie year was

31:26

going to be wild and fun and a roller

31:28

coaster. That's exactly what it is. It's

31:30

dynamic, it's fun, it's crazy,

31:33

it's athletic. And he's hurt again.

31:36

Cross your fingers. He could miss more than a month.

31:38

I really liked the kid. But when you

31:40

have this style, which is making big plays

31:42

and bulldozing people a little bit, you can get

31:44

banged up. It's kind of been what

31:47

we thought. Steichen's been brilliant. They

31:49

call a great game. They are fun to watch,

31:52

and Richardson is wildly dynamic.

31:54

But this is kind of what we predict that it would look like.

31:57

Where Colin was right when the Giant

31:59

signed Daniel, I said, what are you doing?

32:01

Are you watching him play?

32:03

Come on?

32:03

He had fifteen touchdowns last year. Big

32:06

contract they reached for him at number six in the

32:08

draft. They reached for him last year. He

32:10

already has more picks now that he did all of last

32:13

season. He has the worst passer rating

32:15

of his career right now. It's lower than Bryce Young

32:17

and Mac Jones. I honestly

32:19

believe that he sort of looks

32:22

like Eli Manning and maybe somehow

32:24

they feel like, you know, he's from the South. He

32:26

is a little Peyton man Eli

32:29

Manning. He's not Eli

32:32

Manning is an all time two minute drill

32:34

quarterback. Eli Manning is part

32:36

of American football Royalty. He's

32:38

not Eli Manning. There's not twenty

32:40

Eli Manning's in the history of football.

32:43

What a mistake this was. Even Brian Dabole

32:46

can't fix it. Not all his fault. The protection's

32:48

terrible.

32:49

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33:04

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a legend with Tom Brady Julian Edelman now

33:08

Fox Sports analysts. So good to have you again. He's

33:10

on NFL Fox Kickoff at eleven in the

33:13

morning and do a great job describing things to Sinkly.

33:15

You're very good. Okay, let's let's let's

33:17

dive in. This will make this will be over all over sports

33:19

talk radio in Boston, So let's just do it. So

33:22

I'm gonna I'm gonna throw something out and suggest

33:25

to you that when coaches

33:27

have too much power. Pete had it for a

33:29

couple of years in Seattle and the drafting

33:31

went into the tank. And I think Bill

33:34

the GM is hurting Bill the coach,

33:37

and listen, he's lost. You

33:39

know, Dante, Josh McDaniel's

33:41

bratty Ernie Adams, that's

33:44

a lot of brain power. Bill's

33:46

a defensive guy. Is it a

33:48

fair? Is it a fair suggestion

33:51

that maybe Bill has a bit too much

33:53

power and they need a fresh new set of

33:55

eyes in drafting.

33:59

I think he needs a little help on

34:02

the offensive side. I mean, you

34:04

look at the defensive picks. They

34:07

all look pretty good. I mean they always come

34:09

out and they perform

34:11

the Christian Gonzalez kid before he got

34:14

hurt, looked like he was playing good. But

34:17

I mean, we have wift

34:19

and I hate talking about coach like this,

34:22

but we have whift on a lot of offensive

34:24

skill position players, you know, starting from

34:26

I don't want to call guys out, but there are three four

34:29

receivers when I

34:31

was playing that we got in top rounds

34:33

that you know, you knew early. You

34:36

look in in camp and you can always

34:39

see from a guy that's drafted high.

34:41

You see one trade you know they're raw,

34:43

but you could see one trade up. Yep, that's a first

34:45

rounder. You know you're looking and

34:48

what's going on here? That's not a first rounder?

34:51

I don't I don't know what's going on.

34:53

So I think he would

34:55

be the first to tell you that he's he's had

34:57

some screw ups. He's a very accountable

34:59

guy, and I do think

35:01

that you know that they probably do need

35:03

a little more help on the offensive side of scouting

35:06

or something, you know. But

35:08

you look at this like, I'm

35:10

still a little shook on

35:14

on the Jacobi Meyers departure.

35:16

We didn't get that either.

35:17

I didn't get that. You

35:20

know, he could separate a little, he could

35:22

separate a lot. He could run routes, was he

35:24

was tough in the run game. He would go in and block

35:27

the force and and that's what you preach

35:29

as a new England receiver. Get

35:32

open, catch the ball, and blocking the run

35:34

game. Those are the three things that you hear

35:36

all the time. And you

35:38

know, it's just this receiver

35:40

group we have, it just seems like they're struggling

35:43

to create separation. Regardless

35:45

of the reason, they haven't

35:49

been able to separate. And I've been really hard

35:51

on Mac and I've been watching and

35:53

it's tough. You know, guys

35:56

a little open, that's still open, but they're still

35:58

not giving him.

35:59

You're right, Bruce Shung's facing the same

36:01

things.

36:02

No separation very hard. I mean it's

36:04

very hard when your top receiver's Adam

36:07

Thielen, which is a really good receiver, but he's

36:09

a good, complimentary receiver at this stage of

36:11

his career. I mean he's thirty three years

36:13

old, right. You know, you want you want some speed,

36:15

some guys that can get up and make make

36:18

moves and make create separation

36:20

at the top of the route. Win at the beginning of

36:22

the route. You know, there's three phases of the route.

36:24

You win at the beginning of the route, the stem

36:27

or at the top of the route, and I'm not seeing really

36:29

any of that with the Patriots

36:31

round. They just seem out of funk.

36:33

Yeah, and there was a brain drain yourself included

36:35

Tom You, Josh, Ernie, Dante.

36:38

You guys are all Hall of Fame level brains,

36:40

players, quarterbacks, And I think it's like any

36:42

company they call it brain drain. You just lose

36:44

a lot of good people in marketing. Well, marketing's

36:47

not as good. You make poor decisions, and I think that's

36:49

part of it. You know, the broad pretty

36:51

thing. You're a seventh round pick, so was Brock pretty.

36:53

And I've been saying this. Once you're

36:56

in the room, nobody gives a rip where you were picked.

36:58

And it's like, I don't know how good

37:01

he is. But Julian he doesn't.

37:03

He sees the field quick ce j Stroud has this

37:06

like I watch him. He sees the whole field,

37:08

and I don't know what that is. Right there, there's

37:11

some guys doing some guys don't. But

37:13

I watched Purty and I'm like, oh, I could

37:15

ride with this guy, Like I know he didn't have

37:17

the biggest arm, but Tommy didn't like,

37:19

what do you see that you like.

37:20

About him processing? I

37:23

see that he processes quick. And

37:28

you have to think about the

37:30

relationship between play caller

37:32

and quarterback. Do they

37:34

not seem like they're just clicking? They

37:37

are clicking, Like you look on the other

37:39

end of this past weekend against you

37:41

know, Dallas, look at that situation.

37:44

Is that relationship between play

37:46

caller and quarterback? Do you think dak

37:49

in and uh see no,

37:52

dak and McCarthy, do you think they

37:54

finish each other's sentence? I don't know. I

37:57

don't you could say that about Brocken

38:00

and Shanahan. I mean, this guy, he they

38:03

have a lot of weapons, but he's

38:05

going out and he's executing situations.

38:08

He's he's playing on time.

38:11

He hasn't even really had to get to his second

38:13

or third read, which tells me that,

38:16

like the play

38:18

calling is right there, you know, and they do

38:20

have a lot of talent, but you know, you

38:22

need someone to go out there and point guard that talent.

38:24

And brock Purdy, he's playing his tail off and

38:26

his arms not even worre it needs to be. You

38:28

could still see three or four throws where

38:31

like he's he has to use his

38:33

anticipation because his UCL is

38:35

not completely healed. I expect him to get better.

38:37

Yeah, the you know, it

38:40

is interesting. I said

38:42

this a couple hours ago, and I think I repeated

38:44

it is that the league's gotten really smart, very

38:46

quickly. McDaniel McVeigh.

38:49

I mean, Sean McVay is duct taping that on

38:51

line that offense is.

38:52

It's this could be his

38:54

most impressive coach.

38:55

I mean, I'm watching yesterday. Let's take that game Philadelphia.

38:59

I don't know what a compass, but they're O

39:01

line and D line play. It's just it's

39:03

just Canton, Ohio guys. And

39:06

here's the Rams. It's Aaron Donald

39:08

and kids. I

39:10

mean, it's when I watched McVeigh Shanahan

39:13

McDaniel. I think that guy

39:16

in Indianapolis with Gardner Minshew.

39:19

Is it when you watch

39:21

a game, do you since because of

39:23

the rule changes, if you were owner

39:25

of a team, you almost have to

39:27

get an offensive guy.

39:30

It's quarterback league, you

39:32

know, and when you

39:35

draft a young quarterback or you're

39:37

designing an offense. Like I said,

39:39

it goes back to that relationship between the

39:42

play caller and the quarterback, and when

39:45

the head coaches the play caller I mean

39:47

I was on a defensive minded head coach team.

39:49

So like anytime we were in film,

39:52

anytime the defense had a bad practice, we had

39:54

a bad practice, it goes, you know

39:56

what I mean. So that's how he goes.

40:00

I would say, yeah, I mean, this is where the league's

40:02

going with the rule changes and everything. You

40:04

gotta have a guy that can go and massage

40:07

these young quarterbacks and get creative.

40:09

A lot of it's that Julian, It's the massaging

40:11

of seventh rounder

40:14

Iowa State. Now, Bill

40:16

didn't do that much with Tommy. He wasn't much

40:18

of a massager. But again, is that because

40:21

tom could be hard coached.

40:23

I think I

40:25

think Bill taught Brady differently,

40:28

you know, like they had a different type of relationship

40:31

where Bill taught Brady

40:33

defenses. You know, they would meet

40:35

every Monday for three hours and

40:37

go over the defense. The defense that they

40:39

were going over like every week, every

40:42

every Monday, Bill and Brady would sit

40:44

and watch film and Bill would give Brady

40:46

his takes on what he thought the defense

40:49

was trying to do. And they probably developed

40:51

a relationship. And that's what

40:53

Bill's you know, two

40:56

cents went into with Brady.

40:58

I mean he taught it. They did ationship,

41:00

They had a relationship. Yeah, I mean they

41:02

they were together for twenty years. You tell me a marriage

41:05

that doesn't have a little bumps in the road

41:07

after twenty years, you know, right, Yeah,

41:09

so yeah, I do. Going

41:12

back to what you were saying earlier,

41:15

right now, with how this league is going, with

41:17

the rule changes, with

41:19

the speed, with the amount of you know who's

41:21

getting paid right now, the receivers,

41:24

the quarterbacks, tight ends.

41:26

I mean, you get it'd be smart to probably

41:29

go in that offense direction. Now, I'm not saying

41:32

that a defensive minded coach can't get

41:34

it done, but if you're going to

41:36

have a defensive minded coach, you probably

41:38

want to bring someone on the offensive side that

41:40

is, you know, got that whole

41:43

shtick going with this new, this

41:45

new I think it's the evolution.

41:48

They evolved West Coast system.

41:50

Yeah.

41:50

Yeah.

41:51

The we were talking about Detroit earlier.

41:53

So when you have a losing culture and Detroit's

41:56

drafted, well, they brought a new piece. As golf's always

41:58

been a good ball. He can play. And then

42:01

so in New England, Bill

42:03

lost in Cleveland, lost early in New

42:05

England first year and a half, and you're building

42:08

the winning culture. So you entered a winning

42:10

culture. So you may not even recognize

42:12

some of the nonsense, but you've had friends or

42:15

teammates that came from losing culture. So

42:17

the Lions a losing culture

42:19

and now they got dudes like, I mean a lot

42:21

of them, and I outside of

42:23

Philly in San Francisco, I watched them play

42:26

and I'm like, they dragged Green Bay like

42:28

it wasn't close. There's

42:31

probably a lot of little things that I

42:33

don't see that a winning culture

42:36

has. But when you talk to

42:38

guys when they came to New England, did

42:40

they ever confide in you?

42:43

You guys do stuff at practice we don't even

42:45

consider.

42:46

Yeah, I think that comes with leadership.

42:50

In New England, when I first got there,

42:54

you had studs like Teddy Bruski, Kevin

42:56

Fallk, Tom Brady, the guys

42:59

that were your best players. They were

43:01

your highest paid players, but they

43:03

were your hardest working players. They were the

43:05

players that were keeping everyone in check. They were

43:07

the players that were challenging everyone. They were

43:09

the players that were making everyone accountable.

43:12

They were the players that would always say, the more you can do,

43:15

And that's where you try

43:17

to flip that. I remember when guys would come,

43:19

free agents would come, they'd be like, I

43:21

don't know how you guys practice like that? Like

43:24

how you guys practice. Our practices were very

43:26

competitive every day, every

43:28

day, you know. I mean it's changed now with

43:30

the rule changes. You can only have one pad

43:32

of practice for like fourteen weeks or something.

43:35

But they were very competitive. We would

43:37

do tackling drill up until the Super

43:39

Bowl because it's a fundamental that we had

43:42

to work. The game comes down to

43:44

blocking and tackling, and you see so

43:46

many teams lose on these little

43:48

fundamentals. So yeah, I

43:50

think it has to do with the leadership in

43:52

the locker room. And if you look at Detroit,

43:56

look at Jared Goff, Like

43:58

I played against Jared Goff when we were in the

44:00

Super Bowl and

44:03

Bill was giving him crazy looks on defense,

44:05

and you could tell this kid his confidence

44:07

was shot. It was shot in that

44:09

game because he didn't know what was coming.

44:12

You look two weeks ago when they're playing

44:14

the Packers and he throws a pick in the

44:16

first drive. Then he comes back

44:18

and he rallies the team down for a touchdown

44:20

drive and they went on and blew him out

44:23

like that. To that shows

44:25

me he's had growth in his career and

44:27

he's become a leader, and he's become

44:29

the flag carrier for Mike, for

44:32

mc DC, and that whole preach

44:35

of we need to have a mentally tough team

44:37

because he's first hand been a mentally tough

44:39

player, gets shipped out of LA, they

44:41

go win a super Bowl.

44:42

The cracow exactly.

44:45

I mean, so, I think it has a lot

44:47

to do when you're trying to flip a culture.

44:49

It has to do with your leadership.

44:53

I gotta ask you one more question. So the

44:56

Jags early in the season drops

44:59

so many passes. Calvin Ridley, Who's great?

45:01

Baltimore yesterday? Just drop touchdown

45:03

pass?

45:04

Yah?

45:05

Who do I blame? Who do I? I don't want to do the blame

45:07

game. But I'm sure you've had you know you're

45:10

you're recognized for the Atlanta catch. You

45:12

didn't drop many? Is it prep?

45:14

Is it?

45:14

Weather?

45:15

Is it?

45:15

Are there angles that it is harder to catch?

45:18

Is it?

45:18

When you see a team going through it's almost

45:20

like it's contagious. Guys are thinking

45:22

about it.

45:23

Catching's confidence and

45:26

sometimes that was an early game

45:28

yesterday with the Ravens. They're playing against a

45:30

team they should probably beat the crap out of

45:33

and you know a lot of guys are probably

45:35

sitting there like, oh, we're gonna blow these guys out.

45:37

And then the game starts and the

45:39

Steelers come out start fast and

45:41

even though they didn't start fast, but it's one of

45:44

those things where it's a confidence thing that

45:46

you have to do all the time repetition

45:49

to keep those things, you know, tightened

45:52

and dialed. I remember I would

45:54

always have to wake up early in the morning to do

45:56

these tennis ball drills against

45:59

the wall of for reaction and change

46:01

the colors and all that stuff because

46:03

I needed to get my eyes dialed ready for the day,

46:06

because you got to get right, you know, like sometimes

46:08

that ball gets on you. You know, you don't wanna

46:10

you don't wanna be the guy that drops

46:13

the ball first play a practice. You know, there's there's

46:15

an accountability factor. So you

46:17

know, you look at the drops yesterday, Mark

46:19

Andrews, he doesn't really drop the ball. That's kind

46:21

of uncharacteristic, Aguilar. He's

46:23

had a couple drops in his career that we

46:26

all seemed I mean, so that's is

46:28

what it is. A Flowers, He's a rookie

46:30

so you know, they got to get some things

46:32

together, and sometimes a game like this will

46:34

bring them together. And if you look at a John harrball

46:36

team, like especially

46:39

with that rivalry between the Steelers

46:41

and them, they're gonna be around when it all comes

46:43

in and done because they're just mentally tough and they

46:45

always figure a way out. And they do make

46:47

it harder on themselves a lot of the times, but

46:49

they'll figure it out. And you can never bet

46:52

against Mike Tomlin against the Ravens. I

46:54

mean, he's I called it yesterday

46:56

when we're in the avocado room. I'm like, this is a prime

46:58

Mike Tomlin game. Get a win

47:00

out of nowhere because

47:03

no offense, you know, the quarterbacks

47:05

got a hurt knee, their defense

47:07

can't stop nobody, and and they find

47:09

a way to win this game. And that just you know, that

47:11

goes to your defensive coach, right and your culture.

47:13

In the culture Pittsburgh find Pittsburgh

47:15

wins more games they shouldn't.

47:17

You could say the same thing about the Ravens. Ravens

47:20

do that too. They also lose a lot of games

47:22

they shouldn't either, but then they'll win a game

47:25

they shouldn't, So you know they're they're

47:27

cultured up that those two teams.

47:29

It's great Senior, my man. By the way, Peyton

47:31

and Russ, how's it going to end? I

47:34

don't think good one in five if they

47:36

lose to the Chiefs. Yeah,

47:38

it a lot of tens.

47:39

What's the what's the exit? How

47:42

do you exit that whole country? Can you exit

47:44

that contract? I mean, I think it doesn't start until next

47:46

year, right right?

47:46

The only thing I can think of, because

47:49

they need draft capital for defense. But

47:51

if you drafted a quarterback, you get Michael

47:53

Pennock from Washington, you have the ninth pick, and

47:56

you're like, let's just see what we can get out of

47:59

Russ. By the way, Niners gave up a bunch

48:01

of picks for Trey Lance, gave it up their

48:03

Roster's fine. If you hit on a quarterback

48:06

Julian and you don't have to pay him for four years,

48:09

you can do crazy stuff.

48:10

Niners have also hit on a lot of other players.

48:12

They hit on Kittle, they hit on everyone

48:14

on defense. They've hit, you know, on

48:17

everyone except the one free agent they brought

48:19

in, who was Christian McCaffrey. So you

48:22

know, you could have a miss here and there.

48:24

But when you hit on key, you know.

48:26

Got actually fourth fifth guy.

48:28

Like I mean, they they've they've

48:30

they've done a really good job of coming

48:33

up with some crazy talent. I

48:35

mean, do we out any of us think Warner

48:37

would turn into the player he is. This is the best linebacker

48:39

in the game, in the game from BYU. I remember

48:42

watching those guys at training camp.

48:44

This guy's doing tribal things after practice,

48:46

smelling the grass. Guy loves football.

48:49

And that's what another thing, Niners.

48:51

All those guys look like they love football.

48:54

They love football. You look Trent Williams,

48:56

their their tackle. He loves football.

48:59

I mean that's another thing. A

49:02

lot of these teams, you gotta find guys that are loving football.

49:04

A lot of guys are you know, they love being famous,

49:06

they love getting likes and TikTok

49:09

this and that. I sound like Belichick.

49:11

It's crazy. I've heard them too much, snapface,

49:14

you know, but you know, you gotta

49:16

find guys that love the game.

49:18

San Francisco is an easy I know Dallas

49:20

fans don't like them. Easy team for me to watch.

49:22

And like it is, and I just the only

49:25

thing I worry is that they're

49:27

peaking a little early and then you

49:29

know, you catch an injury bug. You

49:31

know that that's the one thing that could derail

49:33

this thing, because all

49:36

these teams that they're playing, they're gonna

49:38

take this back and they're gonna they're gonna learn

49:40

from it. And there's gonna be one team

49:42

that comes from you know, week eight

49:45

and just starts playing they get healthy.

49:49

You know, it reminds me of those New York Giants teams that

49:51

beat us in the super Bowl.

49:53

That was rough. I'm sorry about that.

49:58

These are painful days for the Patriots.

50:00

Good seeing you, man. I love having you on so much.

50:02

Julian Edelman, We are lucky to have him at Fox

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