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Colin was wrong. There is a lot

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weekend from the pretenders

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to the dominant playoff teams. Outside

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of Holmes, who was sick, the best

1:01

quarterback won every game yesterday.

1:04

Tonight, Jared Goff is going

1:06

to continue that Lions are going to

1:08

hammer the Raiders. J Mack.

1:11

Look at this set, Look at the work by the people at

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FS one. This is phenomenal, really

1:16

nice work all over the studio today. Tip

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of the cap to the people who put in the time. I

1:21

do appreciate that. And what'd you make

1:23

it yesterday? A lot of fun.

1:24

I don't know what's scarier this set or the New York

1:26

Giants quarterback situation. I mean, negative

1:28

nine passing yards against my Jets,

1:30

who.

1:31

It was crazy. So let's start with this Bengals

1:33

hammer the Niners. What's wrong with the forty nine

1:35

ers? I don't know. Joe

1:37

Burrow. Nobody

1:40

wants to face Joe Burrow now, including Mahomes,

1:42

who didn't have any receivers. Yes,

1:45

the second best quarterback in the planet takes

1:48

apart San Francisco's defense. That's

1:50

what Mahomes did last year. Remember

1:53

how well the Niners defense was playing Demko

1:55

Ryans, the sharp young defensive

1:57

coordinator that Mahomes came to town second

1:59

half up down the field, Joe

2:01

Burrow after Mahomes, and let's take out yesterday

2:03

for Patrick he was mostly sick. Is

2:05

the second best quarterback

2:08

on the planet and that's the most important position.

2:10

And when you put Burrow juxtaposed him on a field

2:12

with Brock Purty, well it's

2:14

pretty stark difference right, the number one pick,

2:18

top of his game and mister irrelevant

2:20

overachieving with a good roster. It's pretty stark.

2:23

And Burrow does what Mahomes does and what

2:25

Brady did. You get a lot of the greatness without any

2:27

of the mistakes. So four straight

2:29

seasons, we've forgotten about Burrow in September

2:32

because of the pandemic, and then the appendix,

2:35

and then the knee surgery in the cam strain, and we

2:37

forget about him in September. But

2:39

if you count October to the end of the

2:41

season, you know when football counts. The last three

2:43

years, he has the highest passer rating the

2:45

league, above Patrick Mahomes.

2:48

He just starts really choppy,

2:51

calf appendix, knee

2:53

pandemic. Joe Burrow is fantastic.

2:56

And for the record, I'm not selling my brock

2:58

pretty stock. I think he's pretty

3:00

good. I think he's mobile,

3:04

but he's got smaller hands out of fumble, has

3:06

a good arm, not a great arm. Try to squeeze in a couple,

3:09

made a big mistake down near the red zone.

3:11

That's not good and a kind of play that Joe Burrow wouldn't

3:14

make. So playing from behind on Monday

3:16

Night Football and then sparring

3:18

with Joe Burrow. Yeah,

3:21

you get a little bit of the truth. It's much

3:23

easier for good quarterbacks

3:25

to play with the lead. It's much

3:27

easier for good quarterbacks

3:30

to have a vibrant run game,

3:32

or be it home and leading in the fourth, not

3:35

trailing in half, to throw with a good pass

3:37

rush from Cincinnati. So yesterday,

3:40

for the record, is precisely why San Francisco

3:43

took a big swing on Trey

3:45

Lance and why Carolina went

3:47

out and gave up a bunch of picks in their best receiver

3:49

to get Bryce Young because there's only one position

3:51

in this sport worth over one

3:54

point a game, and Cincinnati's got

3:56

that guy. Think about this, Kyle

3:58

Shanahan makes every quarterback,

4:00

seemingly every quarterback productive, but

4:04

greatness is innate. You can't

4:06

coach Kobe, you can't coach

4:08

Burrow. Zach Taylor,

4:11

the head coach of the Bengals, was by a

4:13

lot of people. I wasn't ready to

4:15

make the call, but was considered kind of a whiff.

4:18

And now Zach Taylor goes

4:20

into Santa Clara and beat Shanny, and

4:23

beats Tomlin, and beats Harbaugh

4:25

and beats Andy Reid. It's

4:27

the quarterback we now know with

4:29

Tom Brady and Belichick's divorce,

4:32

it's the quarterback. The

4:34

best quarterback won seemingly every game yesterday.

4:37

I think c J. Strouch probably

4:39

better than Bryce Young, but Bryce Young

4:42

was better in high school and some thought in college.

4:44

The better quarterback mostly wins if you can give him

4:46

a competent coach. So there's nothing

4:49

wrong with San Francisco other than

4:51

Joe Burrow's greatness and

4:54

brought Perty's reality.

4:57

Here was Joe after that

4:59

was athleticism,

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acceleration, explosiveness

5:04

was really a big focus of

5:06

mine and offseason I just haven't

5:08

really been able to show that too much. So it was nice to have

5:11

that Harbor payoff.

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Can we safely say at this point that

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the cap is one hundred percent?

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Need to say now is welcome back Borrow, Welcome

5:19

back.

5:19

To New England and Belichick's

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legacy. Choppy

5:24

in September, October

5:26

Thanksgiving on New England for

5:28

twenty years, got better every

5:31

month. Right, that's

5:33

what Cincinnati has become. They're

5:35

choppy in September, Burrow's not

5:38

right physically October on

5:40

they're the one team. Lamar

5:43

Jackson struggled against the Chiefs. Josh

5:46

Allen struggled against the Chiefs.

5:49

Joe Burrow hasn't and Joe Burrow won't.

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He can match Mahomes for almost throw

5:54

to throw the greatness without the mistakes.

5:57

I don't think there's a lot wrong with San Francisco

5:59

other than brought Perdy's reality and Burrows

6:01

greatness. And how about the Cowboys.

6:05

They are as we said last Friday,

6:08

this was gonna be a Dallas win

6:10

and with a chance to be a dominating

6:13

win. They do a lot of things Buffalo

6:15

does. You're not sure what you get weak to week the

6:17

Cowboys have become the ultimate teas. About

6:20

every third weekend they look like

6:22

the greatest football team ever created,

6:25

and then the following week they crash.

6:28

Remember Week two they blew out the Jets,

6:30

Week three they got smoked by Arizona.

6:32

In week four they blew out New England, and

6:35

week five they were humiliated by

6:37

San Francisco. Hammered

6:39

the Rams. Philadelphia's next

6:41

they're the world's best roller coaster. And we said

6:44

the Rams are all smoking mirrors and coaching. They're

6:47

probably considering tomorrow

6:49

they could move one or two of their veteran

6:51

pieces Aaron Donald. Doubt it, but it could

6:54

happen. Cooper Cup, they got him out of

6:56

there. Stafford's beat up Darnold was

6:58

good early, but what's the point this point got going

7:00

forward? They need more good players and more draft

7:02

picks. Dak, though, is

7:05

a very good home favorite.

7:07

DAK playing with a lead at home is

7:09

good. And I will give Dallas a lot of credit here,

7:12

even though they're very much the Buffalo Bills. You're

7:14

not sure what you get every week you show

7:16

up. DAK and CD

7:18

Lamb have become a thing. They're

7:20

not Burrow and Jamar Chase yet,

7:23

but they're really really good. Are they

7:25

overly dependent at times on Dak

7:27

and Cede Lamb? Yeah, but it works

7:30

against everybody. So I

7:33

look at a couple of things with Dallas. You

7:35

don't. I mean, it's like Saturday Night Live. That's

7:38

a little bit what Dallas is like. Now. There are some

7:40

really special moments, but you're almost

7:42

sure it'll never be as good as it once was.

7:45

That's the Cowboys for me. But there

7:47

are some good things. Dak

7:49

is good with a lead. Micah

7:51

Parsons is maybe one of the top two three

7:53

players in the league defensively, with a lead.

7:56

So there's a lot of things here to like. It's

7:58

just you don't necess Saraly know what

8:01

you're gonna get with Dallas. You

8:04

just don't know week to week. That's not

8:06

I know from this point forward what I'm

8:09

getting from Cincinnati virtually every

8:11

week. Dallas four

8:13

weeks going forward will be better than Cincinnati

8:16

and eight could be terrible. You just

8:18

don't know. But dak

8:20

at home a favorite with a

8:23

lead. Michael Parsons, Yeah, and they look really

8:25

really special. But it should be noted

8:27

this week, off a dominating win, they

8:30

go to Philadelphia and they are appropriately

8:33

an underdog and I've already seen the number

8:36

and I'll take the Eagles. Here's

8:38

Dallas talking.

8:39

After a lot of trust

8:41

in that guy. He runs, he knows

8:43

what I'm thinking. We're always communicating, and

8:45

I think that's why when it's not going

8:47

our way, it's frustrating, you know what I mean, because we put so

8:50

much into it, but we're just He's

8:52

right now, we're reaping the rewards of everything

8:55

that we've put into this, and this is only going to continue to grow.

8:59

Very good stuff for dat Ceedee Laman Deck.

9:01

It is a real thing.

9:03

J Mack.

9:04

It was a weird weekend. I flew back early

9:06

morning. I got Jets Giants on television.

9:09

Somehow television did not black

9:11

it out because it was such a gross three

9:14

and a half hours of football, But it did make

9:16

me as I watched that game, and I watched yesterday

9:18

afternoon, and then Kirk Cousins got

9:20

hurt. It strikes to the reality. I wrote

9:23

down ten teams today, I'll do it later

9:26

that should draft a quarterback. First, second,

9:28

third, they should draft a quarterback. And that's where

9:30

we are in this league. And it's where we are habitually,

9:32

perpetually and annually in this league.

9:35

About ten teams need to draft a quarterback. And I

9:37

think after yesterday Kirk cousins injury,

9:39

I don't know exactly what to do with Sam Howe.

9:41

I probably would give him one more year with an

9:44

offensive coach, Mac Jones, one

9:46

more year with an offensive coach. I know I'm being

9:48

very diplomatic, but I think I

9:50

looked at yesterday the Bears last night. Can't

9:52

compete with that. I think that you can't.

9:54

I don't think you can compete much with justin fields.

9:56

And I'm sitting watching a lot of these games yesterday

9:59

and the haves and havel not. The separation

10:01

is very clear. If you got a quarterback, you're fine.

10:03

If not, you're gonna get your coach fired,

10:05

the coordinator fired, or players traded.

10:08

A lot of thoughts on the Cowboys,

10:10

but you said something. The better quarterback won every

10:12

game. So Bryce Young a

10:14

CJ. Stroud in in a game

10:16

we called we do the Panthers with a side,

10:19

But Bryce Young beat out c J.

10:21

Stroud. Well, that

10:23

is undecided. Yes, Stroud plays

10:25

with better players at this point,

10:27

he's got more weapons. I thought

10:29

that was a big win for Bryce

10:32

Young. Been a lot of questions and a lot of doubters he's

10:34

playing. If you've watched them at all, I have. Unfortunately,

10:36

he's got nothing to throw to. I mean nothing,

10:39

all their talents on defense, but

10:41

I and that's an undecided. Like will Lewis

10:43

Desmond Ritter, we don't know Bryce Young Stroud,

10:45

we don't know. But I mean when you had two quarterbacks,

10:47

we know something about the best quarterback was winning yesterday

10:50

all the games.

10:50

Hey, quick question. You mentioned Cowboys Eagles, colin

10:53

one number from the Eagles.

10:54

That's troubling.

10:55

Does you how any design runs for Jalen Hurts?

10:57

Yesterday two.

10:59

How's the need aen? I know

11:02

I'm a little concerned, honestly, like

11:04

he was great throwing it, but I don't know about that knee

11:06

colling against the Cowboys defense pass rush.

11:09

He won again, he did, he did, They

11:11

win every time I watch him play.

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11:22

Denver beat Kansas City. It's okay.

11:25

You can say it's all because Patrick Mahomes

11:27

was sick, if you want to use that

11:30

as an excuse, and none of us are

11:32

one hundred percent when we're sick. But

11:34

it wasn't just that. If you look

11:37

at the numbers believe it or not, of Russell Wilson

11:39

against Mahomes this season, Wilson's

11:42

got better numbers, completion percentage,

11:45

little, lower passer rating, higher TD

11:47

interceptions better. That's

11:50

that's what's really happened in the NFL so far. Kansas

11:53

City's wide receivers most drops

11:55

in the NFL red zone offense,

11:57

Kansas City is eighteenth. They're

11:59

not very good offensively. Sky Moore

12:01

dropped the touchdown pass yesterday. This

12:04

season for Mahomes is starting to look

12:06

like some of the years in New England

12:08

for Brady where he had a great

12:11

tight end like Gronk

12:13

and then cross your fingers. The

12:16

difference is Brady would have a clever slot

12:18

guy, a Wes Welker or a Julian Edelman,

12:20

veteran receivers who knew how to beat his own.

12:23

This Kansas City group is kids. They

12:27

can't catch, They drop a lot of passes,

12:29

and Brady got frustrated visibly,

12:32

and yesterday Mahomes, and this

12:34

happens about once a year, got really frustrated.

12:37

You just look at the AFC, forget

12:40

the NFC. Baltimore's got better weapons,

12:42

Chargers have better weapons, Jags have better

12:44

weapons. Cincinnati's got better weapons,

12:46

Miami's got better weapons. They

12:49

maybe have a BB gun offense. Pittsburgh's got

12:51

better weapons. They

12:53

don't stack up in the AFC outside

12:56

of Travis Kelsey. And there's a lot

12:58

of miles on Travis Kelcey's legs.

13:01

So they sawd the Tyreek

13:03

Hill trade last year with Juju

13:05

smith Schuster, who had a touchdown yesterday,

13:09

and they actually miss j Smith

13:11

Schuster. They miss him. He's a veteran

13:14

gets open against the zone, productive

13:16

in big spots, but outside

13:18

of a great half against

13:21

the Chargers, this is what Kansas City's

13:23

offense is. When Denver led

13:25

twenty one to nine, it didn't feel

13:28

the same. It didn't feel like

13:30

you would looking at an offense that would reel

13:32

off three touchdowns in six minutes. That

13:34

was a couple of years ago. Against Buffalo, that

13:37

was three or four years ago. This is a weak

13:39

wide receiving group. There is no number

13:41

one receiver, there's no number two receiver.

13:44

Sky Moore could become a two,

13:46

he's not a one. And

13:48

Travis Kelcey again, there's an age factor.

13:51

You saw it with Gronk. Tight ends

13:53

can age fast. You ask him to block, they

13:55

get hit down low, they get beat up.

13:58

So I when Denver was ahead, I

14:00

didn't feel it felt like normal Kansas

14:02

City football. If Travis Kelcey

14:05

does not get in the end zone, they

14:07

struggle to get in the end zone. They are eighteenth

14:09

in red zone offense. So I think Kansas City

14:12

over time is a better team. But

14:14

what Denver did, and we'll talk more about

14:16

Denver later, they tweaked it. They've now got

14:18

a running game. They took Mahomes out

14:20

of rhythm, Mahomes on the bench, grumbling

14:23

wide receivers getting cold. It was

14:25

cold to begin with, so I don't

14:27

think this was jess Patrick Mahomes was sick.

14:31

He obviously wasn't one hundred percent, but

14:33

he was good enough to make plenty of throws that

14:35

were dropped by his receivers.

14:38

That throw the skybarer was great, it

14:40

was dropped. Couldn't be that sick. Here's

14:43

Patrick after.

14:44

Played pretty much the same what they did last week. Last

14:46

time they played us to Broncos be able to kind of

14:48

stifle our offense, that's the right word, and

14:51

really just kind of get after us as

14:53

far as making us execut allway on the field. And

14:55

so I'm sure other teams in the league are gonna watch that, and we have

14:58

to prove that we have answers for that, and that'll

15:00

be something I'll go back to the film

15:03

and really try to pay attention to.

15:05

Yeah, I mean, last week Nick Wright gave me

15:07

crud because I had him at two. The truth

15:09

is this week I don't

15:11

have them in the top four. It's not a knock,

15:14

But what you're seeing with them isn't about

15:16

the flu. What you're seeing about them

15:18

is the reality of their personnel is

15:20

that they would have been much more

15:23

punitively damaged last year on

15:26

the Tyreek Hill move if not for Juju

15:28

Smith Schuster, a veteran guy who can get open.

15:30

They're just waiting for these young kids to get more

15:32

reliable. They did make a move trade

15:35

deadlining. I don't think they'll make another one. I

15:37

think Kansas City off a Super Bowl feels like

15:39

we don't have salary cap space. Can these

15:41

guys get better and better quickly? And

15:44

I think that's very, very possible with a great quarterback,

15:46

smart coach. But right now,

15:48

this is not a great offense. They had a great

15:51

half against the Chargers. Shocker the Chargers,

15:54

the Bears went down the field, beat him on the first player

15:56

of the game last night, shocker, But it's not

15:58

a great offense for the first time in Mahomes career.

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16:06

Deontay Johnson's very talented

16:08

receiver for the Pittsburgh Steelers,

16:11

So after the loss at home

16:13

in perfect Pittsburgh weather to

16:15

the Jaguars, he ripped

16:18

the refs he says

16:20

they wanted the Jaguars

16:22

to win.

16:24

Listen to this, I

16:26

ain't like the rest today. They must

16:28

have got paid good to day or something. They was calling some

16:31

stupid stuff like they should get

16:33

fine for calling that. That making worse, terrible

16:35

calls and stuff like that. Like that's how pissed

16:37

I am. Like because the week they cost us the

16:39

game. I don't care when nobody say they cost us the

16:41

moon.

16:43

It wasn't that drop you had. For

16:45

the record, both teams had

16:48

precisely six penalties.

16:53

Yeah, the NFL's Christmas wish list,

16:56

if they had one Dallas

16:58

to a Super Bowl face the Steelers, that

17:01

would be on their wish list. It would

17:03

get the highest rating ever one of the most iconic

17:05

franchises. Yeah, what the NFL wants

17:07

is the least popular

17:09

team in Florida dominating

17:12

the Steelers, an iconic brand. When

17:15

you have an anemic offense and

17:17

a limited quarterback, you start blaming

17:20

play calling, dropped

17:22

passes, the refs, and

17:24

o line play. I

17:26

heard it for years with Daniel Jones and the Giants.

17:29

You don't have the right quarterback.

17:30

Now.

17:31

I like Kenny Pickett more than Daniel Jones.

17:33

I like Kenny Pickett a lot more than Jordan Love,

17:35

but he's limited. He's a very limited

17:37

quarterback, and so is his backup Mitch Trubisky.

17:40

The Steelers at home in weather that

17:42

was built for a tough physical Mike Tomlin

17:45

team, four straight drives,

17:47

three and out. Those are the

17:50

scripted plays. If

17:52

your young quarterback struggles to

17:54

move the chains on scripted

17:57

plays at home, sorry

18:00

if I don't think he's gonna go toe to toe and

18:02

beat Lamar and Burrow in division.

18:05

Joe Burrow is arguably Lamar Jackson,

18:08

arguably two of the top three or four quarterbacks

18:10

in the world. Do you know how perfect you have to play

18:12

to beat him? If you're Pittsburgh, I mean, just look

18:14

at the AFC right now. Mahomes,

18:17

Alan Tua, Herbert, Trevor

18:19

Lowns, Burrow. I

18:22

mean, look at these guys. And by

18:24

the way, it's the best quarterback draft class in a while.

18:26

One of these AFC teams probably get another quarterback.

18:29

So I I heard this with Daniel Jones forever.

18:32

First of all, you start blaming drop

18:34

passes. Mahomes's

18:37

receiving core leads the NFL, and drop passes.

18:40

You start blaming the ref's o

18:43

line play the offensive coordinator

18:46

Pittsburgh is just very very limited. Kenny

18:48

Pickens and Mitch Trubisky are really nice guys

18:51

and occasionally capable and

18:53

can make big plays. Trubisky with his leg,

18:55

pick it with his arm. But don't kid yourself.

18:58

Refs miss calls all the time for

19:01

everybody, and these teams were

19:03

both both flag

19:05

six times. Kenny Pickett

19:07

in his career has

19:11

one multiple

19:13

touchdown pass game. There

19:17

was a call I didn't like against the Steelers. There

19:20

was a call I didn't like against Denver, they won the

19:22

game. There was a call I hated against

19:24

Seattle. They won the game. If

19:26

you got the guy, reps

19:29

become much less

19:31

important.

19:32

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20:36

So Miami beats the Dolphins.

20:38

Tua forget the other

20:40

AFC quarterbacks. Tua is

20:43

six and zero against Belichick. So before

20:45

we get to the highlights, almost everything

20:47

in this game sort of leaned

20:50

in New England's favor. They had

20:52

revenge going for him because Miami beat

20:54

him earlier. The weather wasn't damp, and humid

20:56

in Miami. It's cooled down. The

20:59

Dolphins face Kansas City overseas

21:01

next week. That'll be fantastic. They

21:04

got beat up by Philadelphia a little bit physically.

21:07

Weren't that a healthy The offensive lines

21:09

banged up. I thought that would play a big factor. I thought

21:11

Miami would win, but I thought it would be real close. We

21:14

keep blaming Mac Jones for everything. Belichick

21:18

can't stop this offense. He can't stop

21:20

Tua. Forget about josh Allen, Mahomes,

21:23

Burrow Lamar. He can't stop Tua. Belichick

21:26

feels like a math genius and

21:28

the NFL pivoted to poetry and

21:30

literature. What do they do well?

21:33

Tua is six and zero against Belichick.

21:36

Waddle and Tyreek both had over one hundred

21:38

yards, and Belichick even got

21:41

to break this season in a weird way. Aaron

21:43

Rodgers got hurt. Or

21:45

it would be Josh Allen, Tua

21:47

and Mike McDaniel and those weapons, Aaron

21:50

Rodgers, Garrett Wilson, Breese Hall and

21:53

Mac Jones and no number

21:55

one receiver or tight end. And I'd argue

21:57

no number one back. So his

22:00

defense, I mean, ask yourself this,

22:02

what defense is stopping every

22:05

or any great quarterback, Pittsburgh's

22:08

very talented defense. Texans ran

22:10

over it San Francisco, going up and down the field

22:12

on it, and the Jags yesterday did a lot of things

22:14

they wanted to do. Tell

22:16

me the defense that's stopping everybody every week,

22:19

and ask me about New England. What does

22:21

New England do well?

22:24

Where's the silver lining? Yes,

22:26

they're thirty first in scoring, they're twenty

22:29

six defensively, what

22:31

do they do well? They are a directionless

22:33

franchise And I don't see the whole I

22:36

have said. I would go get a Ben Johnson,

22:39

give Mac Jones a real shot.

22:41

Same with Sam Helln Washington. There's

22:43

something there. I'm not sure it's great, but

22:45

there's something. But I New

22:48

England can't beat Tua.

22:52

Forget Josh Allen kind of

22:54

the revolutionary and

22:58

fifty big Ben cam Newton life quarterback.

23:00

They can't beat Pua. Here

23:03

was Mike McDaniel.

23:04

After you get a great litmus

23:06

test of where you're at as a football team

23:09

when you have a division game and

23:11

then on top of that, you're going overseas

23:13

the next week, and on top of

23:16

that you have hard knocks

23:18

the week after.

23:19

That is.

23:22

Leading the league and potential distractions.

23:24

So I knew we were gonna find out a

23:27

lot about our team.

23:29

So you know, it was kind of a direction, was

23:31

franchise. That's what it feels like for New England.

23:33

So one of the

23:36

things I like about big city media

23:38

Dallas, Atlanta, Philly,

23:41

Chicago, New York, Los

23:43

Angeles, you know bigger markets

23:45

is that you know there's no pompom

23:48

waving. They'll they'll rip anybody. The

23:50

smaller the market, Buffalo, Jacksonville.

23:53

The media tends to be more of an ally or

23:56

friendly, but they can still

23:58

be critical. In Green Bay, it's different. Green

24:00

Bay covers the packers like

24:02

the fans are the parents and the players

24:04

of their kids. I mean, they just can't see

24:07

straight. Jordan Love's not it like

24:09

not close. It doesn't work. Nobody

24:12

wants to pick on him, no reason

24:14

to be mean spirited. He's a backup. Maybe

24:17

something happens, maybe something changes.

24:19

But when you start blaming the refs

24:21

and dropped passes and play calling, you

24:23

don't have the guy. As if Joe Burrow gets

24:26

a perfect scheme and play

24:28

sheet every week. So

24:30

when I watch Green Bay in this Jordan Love situation,

24:32

it's like it's a really small market.

24:35

They've had great quarterback play for about thirty

24:37

straight years. There was no way they were gonna

24:39

go far of Rogers legend. But

24:41

I mean, they've gone

24:44

five straight games without a touchdown in the first

24:46

half. You're gonna gonna blame drop passes,

24:48

gonna blame the refs, old line play

24:50

stop it. He's not accurate at all downfield

24:54

you and I mean, like that stuff out

24:56

in the flat, that's bait. That's

24:58

layup stuff. You can't make the throws

25:00

in the red zone. These are layups. I'm

25:02

not asking him to beat Mahomes downfield

25:04

or Josh Allen. He throws it into

25:06

double coverage. He's not accurate. This

25:09

is just a bad, bad

25:11

throw to Christian Watson. How do you miss

25:13

badly on? This is a layup in the flat?

25:16

And again, he's got an offensive

25:18

coach. He's got really good running

25:21

back, tight end, wide receiver weapons. But

25:23

green Bay, the way they feel

25:26

about their team, these are our kids,

25:29

so they're hyper protective. But

25:31

I will tell you this, I would rather

25:33

be green Bay than Pittsburgh, even

25:35

though Pittsburgh's much better now because

25:38

Kenny Pickett's not it either. He's

25:40

better than Jordan Love, but he's from

25:42

Pittsburgh. He played at the University of Pittsburgh.

25:45

They're not drafting a quarterback for years. They're

25:48

going to convince themselves, Hey, you

25:51

bet he'll beat Burrow and Mahomes and Lamar

25:53

and Trevor Lawrence. You watched the field

25:56

yesterday and you watched Kenny Pickett against Trevor Lawrence

25:58

and it was perfect Pittsburgh weather. It

26:00

was a warm weather Florida team going into the Muck

26:02

and Meyer they still dominated. Green

26:05

Bay has no emotional connection to Jordan Love.

26:07

He's a Utah State kid. They're not paying him big money.

26:10

They're gonna move off him quickly. Will

26:12

they be intellectually honest enough?

26:14

Now they drafted a quarterback last year, will they

26:17

draft one this year early? They need to. I

26:20

think it was totally unrealistic to think you were going

26:22

to go far Rogers legend. That

26:24

doesn't happen. It just doesn't happen. I

26:28

mean, you know, most people can't name the shortstop

26:31

after Jeter in New York. It's just like you just don't.

26:33

It doesn't work that way. And so when

26:35

you went from Peyton Manning to Andrew Luck and Farv

26:37

to Rogers. That's insane. That

26:40

never happens in pro sports ever.

26:43

So I mean, you can do it in the NBA if

26:45

you want to go buy a Lebron or you you want

26:47

to go buy a free agent. But it

26:50

doesn't work. But I think Green Bay's in a good

26:52

spot. It clearly doesn't work, and they

26:54

have no real connection other than the time

26:56

they've spent with him this year making him

26:58

the guy. Whereas in Pittsburgh

27:00

they're gonna convince themselves they got the guy, and Kenny

27:03

is better and can make some big throws he can't.

27:05

He's a better player, But I don't think in the

27:07

AFC you're gonna win big time playoff games

27:09

with that in January and February. So

27:11

I look at Green Bay and I think it doesn't look good.

27:14

Just be honest about it. When guys

27:16

are missing layups, missing people badly,

27:19

can't score five straight weeks a touchdown,

27:21

it's not the guy didn't

27:23

pay him much. You're not trapped. You don't have any holes

27:26

in your team. You gotta find your next great left tackle.

27:28

But everybody in the league's looking for that. Even San Francisco

27:31

has one. They'll probably draft one. Everybody's

27:33

looking for a great left tackle. You got receivers,

27:35

tight ends, backs, you have a great corner, you got good

27:37

guys in the box. Green Bay's in a good

27:39

space. But because it's a small

27:42

town, they're just gonna convince themselves stop. Nobody's

27:45

buying it privately. Green Bay

27:47

knows the truth. There's no reason to say

27:49

everything publicly. Then

27:52

I don't ask my wife everything

27:54

she thinks about me. I don't want to know it. My

27:57

kids. Keep it to yourself. I don't

27:59

need all the answers publicly. I don't

28:01

care what you had for lunch. You don't need to put it on Twitter.

28:04

I don't care. You don't need to say

28:06

it publicly. But everybody in the room kind of

28:08

knows this isn't didn't

28:11

take long to figure out Burrow Mahomes, Lawrence

28:13

Herbert doesn't take long to see it or

28:16

not see it. So I know J Mack I come

28:18

across really harsh on this,

28:20

and I wish them young man. But I when I

28:22

watched that's a backup. He's a backup.

28:24

Okay, I would agree. I'm gonna ask a

28:26

question. It's going to be tough for the Dell's audience

28:28

in.

28:29

Wisconsin, Wisconsin. Dela Mall you like yet.

28:32

Is Matt Lafleur the guy as head coach?

28:34

Yes, we're certain he was winning thirteen

28:36

games?

28:36

Wait wait wait wait wait wait he was?

28:38

Or Aaron Rodgers the Hall of Famer was Because

28:41

all I know is when it got down a crunch time in the playoffs,

28:44

I didn't see greatness from the floor. Well, and now

28:47

he's got Jordan Love, a guy who's been in his system

28:49

for how many years? Three for Yeah,

28:51

and they can't score in the first half.

28:53

They cannot?

28:53

Okay, they had Christian Watson

28:56

looked awesome?

28:56

How great was Aaron Rodgers with great weapons?

28:59

How good had Kyle Shanahan's offense look

29:01

yesterday?

29:02

Well, they're missing their left tackle and Deebo Samuel.

29:04

Okay, Well, back, theori's been hurt

29:06

and they missed the running back. Okay, fair. I

29:08

mean, I think Matt Lafleur's proven

29:11

he's more than capable. What's happened to

29:13

the Tennessee offense since he left. Not

29:16

great? It was better when he was there. Oh,

29:18

by the way, green Bay won a lot

29:20

of games. I don't think he's Andy Reid.

29:23

I have had quite you're saying, I

29:26

think Matt Lafleur is not the issue. I think Matt

29:28

Lafluur's fine. I think he's grown

29:30

up, he's an adults.

29:32

Matt Lafleur part of the decision to draft Jordan

29:34

Love.

29:35

No, no, okay, no,

29:37

I think organizationally, Aaron was aging.

29:40

He'd come off a couple of back

29:42

to back a slight decline. And again,

29:44

it's okay to draft quarterbacks. Brady

29:47

was there in his prime and winning, and they were drafting

29:49

Garoppolos and every other year they draft

29:51

a quarterback. You should probably draft a quarterback

29:54

somewhere two out of three years, unless

29:56

maybe you've got a Herbert Mahomes. But there's

29:58

six of those in the world. Baltimore doesn't

30:00

need to draft a quarterback. Chargers

30:03

don't, Buffalo does it. Most teams

30:05

do.

30:05

Somebody from the Shanahan mcvagh tree would

30:07

not not score any points in the first

30:10

half of five straight games, Like, dude, they're doing nothing

30:12

in the first half, no touchdowns.

30:13

Can't move the foot. How do you think Jordan Love would look with a

30:15

defensive coach? Yes, no,

30:18

I'm serious.

30:19

Work can it get worse?

30:19

Yours got He's got bax

30:22

receivers, tight ends and a great

30:24

organization. What would he

30:26

be like with Ron Rivera or

30:29

any defensive coach.

30:30

Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd

30:32

weekdays and neon eastern non am Pacific

30:35

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30:37

and the iHeartRadio app. Where

30:39

Colin was.

30:40

Right, well, I said three weeks ago, don't worry

30:42

about Joe Burrow and Cincinnati. They're going to be

30:44

fine. Append inx

30:47

ACL pandemic

30:50

calf injury. He's been bad in September

30:52

his entire career. But I think Cincinnati,

30:55

along with the Jags in Baltimore and Case or

30:57

the class of the AFC, I think burrow is situation,

31:00

brilliant, excellent judgment, moves

31:02

well enough, beautiful touch. I

31:04

thought he was the best player on the field

31:06

yesterday in a game with a lot

31:09

of Hall of Fame level players.

31:11

Where Colin was wrong.

31:12

I'm not a huge fan of Will Levis, little cocky

31:15

falls in love with his arm. Was not my favorite

31:17

prospect. But the kid can sling it. I'll

31:19

say that four touchdowns.

31:22

Listen, the Titans need to find a quarterback.

31:24

They've been doing this, running this Tannehill

31:26

thing back for years and it was a good debut

31:28

for the kid again. I think I think he's gonna

31:30

end up being a little bit of a hot or cold quarterback.

31:33

There's gonna be sundays you fall in love with him and

31:35

then he's going to drive you crazy because he's very armed,

31:37

dependent. But I was wrong. That's a heck

31:39

of a debut. Way to go, will Levis.

31:41

Where Colin was right.

31:43

Sean Payton would eventually get

31:45

the best out of Russell Wilson, is what I

31:47

said. I didn't know if Russell was going to be great,

31:50

but right now, Russell Wilson's

31:52

passer rating is one oh one point seven, fourth

31:55

best in the NFL. They're now running

31:57

the football. Sean had a

31:59

lot of things to fit the culture, the

32:01

O line Russell Wilson, it's not

32:03

his GM, but I thought what you

32:05

watched yesterday, he's playing younger

32:07

defensive players. They're playing now with energy,

32:10

and he's running the ball. It's a

32:12

little like Pete Carroll did with Russell and Seattle.

32:14

Russell becomes a bit more complimentary

32:17

and say what you want. Yesterday's

32:19

a blueprint for what I think Denver

32:21

will look like the rest of the year.

32:24

Where Colin was rough, I thought.

32:26

The Titans were going to be open for business and

32:28

trade Derrick Henry, but sources say he's

32:31

not getting traded now. The deadline is

32:33

tomorrow. He's expensive,

32:35

but I don't think when you look at his production,

32:37

he's that expensive. I think

32:39

Dallas should make a run at him. Tony Pollard

32:42

feels like a number two, and that offense

32:44

is very Ceede Lamb dependent.

32:46

But I think I'm wrong here. They're saying

32:49

they're not gonna move him. It's the last year

32:51

of his deal. He's still

32:53

highly productive and can really help

32:55

you if you're looking to play action pass

32:58

or not be entirely core dependent.

33:01

Where Colin was right even when

33:03

brock Purty was winning, I said he's good.

33:05

I don't see the special. He's a little small,

33:08

he's mobile, but not electric. He's got

33:10

a decent arm, not special, And

33:12

you see when he's on the road or is in

33:14

a game against Joe Burrow, it's pretty

33:16

obvious. When playing from behind, it's

33:19

pretty obvious. I like him, but he had three

33:21

turnovers yesterday, one of them a fumble.

33:23

There's been concerns about his hands, eye.

33:26

He threw a couple of nice balls to George Kittle

33:28

and Brandon Ayuk dropped another one hit him

33:30

right in the face. So I think he's a good player. But

33:32

when we got into this MVP brock

33:34

Purty talk, that stuff's just silly.

33:37

Where Colin was right.

33:38

My sources said before the season that Jordan

33:41

loved there was no juice or it. He

33:43

was mostly a game manager. He's

33:45

got a seventy eight passer rating. He misses

33:48

badly on even layups and easy

33:50

stuff. Five straight games

33:53

without a touchdown in the first half.

33:56

Some of these are home games against average

33:58

defenses. Here's Matt Lafleu. Were on

34:00

the offensive struggles.

34:02

Oh, that was obviously tough

34:05

to watch, you

34:07

know, just way too many mistakes, penalties,

34:10

drops, not being

34:12

able to convert on third down, conversely,

34:15

not getting off the grass on third down, struggles

34:17

in the red zone. Starting

34:20

the game out, I want to say four to three and ouns. Yeah,

34:24

it's hard to get into a rhythm offensively.

34:27

Yeah, I feel like I've watched that post game

34:30

five straight weeks for

34:32

Matt Lafleur.

34:34

Where Colin was rough.

34:35

I thought the Phillies looked like those ninety

34:38

nine two thousand Yankee teams, a team

34:40

of destiny, but like the Philadelphia

34:42

seventy six ers in Game six and seven,

34:45

they couldn't deliver at the plate. That included

34:47

Bryce Harper. I was rooting for him,

34:50

but their four big bats went

34:52

one for twenty eight. Arizona

34:55

deserves the credit. Maybe they're the team of destiny,

34:57

but I felt we were looking at historically one

35:00

of the most special postseason runs I'd ever

35:02

seen in a crazy stadium. But

35:05

it was not meant to be where Colin

35:07

was right. Jags went at Pittsburgh.

35:09

They've won two times overseas the

35:11

only undefeated team this

35:14

year. What did I write? Oh, in October they're

35:17

five and zero. I thought they'd be the number

35:19

one seed in the AFC. I had him number

35:21

one. Trevor Lawrence I think is a sensational

35:24

talent. I think Doug Peterson. One

35:26

of the things I like about Doug he gets the ball

35:28

to the people he should get the ball to on third

35:30

and fourth down. Trevor Lawrence is

35:32

one hundred passer rating. Their defense suffocated

35:35

the Steelers. I really like this team. We've been asking

35:37

all year are they good? Yes, they keep

35:39

showing us they're good. That was Pittsburgh weather

35:42

for a Florida team that was Pittsburgh weather,

35:44

and they were dominant.

35:45

Where Colin was right.

35:47

We warned you, We kept saying all week.

35:49

Upset alert. Oklahoma

35:52

going on the road against Kansas. Kansas

35:54

has a heck of a coach. They're

35:56

a basketball school with a heck of a football

35:59

team. Oklahoma barely

36:01

beat three and five UCF the

36:03

week before. They did have a game

36:06

for the Ages against Texas. I think

36:08

Oklahoma and USC are

36:10

not as good as their fan bases wanted

36:12

to everybody to believe early. But

36:15

this game had upset screaming

36:17

all over it. National TV disrespected

36:21

basketball school at home with some real

36:24

players against an Oklahoma team that wasn't

36:26

as good as their record. Colin

36:29

Wright Colin wrong on a Monday.

36:31

Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd

36:33

weekdays and Noone Easter not a im.

36:35

Pacific NFL Hall

36:37

of Famer. One of the few coaches in the

36:39

history of the sport. Natty's in

36:42

college Super Bowls, multiple

36:44

in the NFL. It's Jimmy Johnson. He

36:46

is joining us live as

36:49

the country gets cold. He's down in the Keys wearing

36:52

a workout shirt. You know he picked the right place

36:54

to live.

36:55

So I'm

36:57

going fishing in about fifteen minutes.

37:00

Okay, well I'll take this off and get on the

37:02

boat.

37:03

All right, I'll wrap it up quick and you can grab a hindeken

37:05

in fishing for me as well. All Right, here

37:08

we go. So I said about Dallas, they

37:10

are good at home with a lead.

37:13

I thought, yesterday you

37:15

just had a franchise that

37:18

I've seen this three times this year. They clobber

37:21

somebody. It's almost as if there is

37:23

a there is a recipe

37:25

for Dallas. Now they got to go to Philadelphia,

37:28

and I kind of know what I'm gonna see. There is

37:30

there a way to create continuity and

37:33

a more even cowboy effort because

37:35

I think, like Buffalo and Dallas week the week,

37:37

I have no idea what I'm getting.

37:40

Well, yeah, I think as

37:42

far as you ask continuity,

37:45

I would say a running game and defense.

37:48

If you're really good defensively

37:51

weekend and week out, you're going to be pretty

37:53

consistent. If you've got a great running

37:55

game weekend week out, you're

37:57

going to be pretty consistent. Uh

38:00

So you know, defense in the running game goes on

38:02

the road extremely well. But

38:04

this Dallas team that they're extremely talented.

38:07

Uh And when you're throwing

38:09

the ball to Ceedee Lamb. He

38:11

can make some things happen. So you look

38:14

at against Philadelphia, I think the whole key

38:16

is going to be which receiver is gonna have

38:18

a hot day, Ceedee Lamb or aj Brown?

38:20

And who's gonna be able to keep

38:23

from turning the ball over. You know, the turnovers are

38:25

determined the game. But I think the Dallas

38:27

can beat Philadelphia this week.

38:29

So I had suggested that Derek

38:31

Henry move at the trade deadline, and you

38:33

were somebody that was willing to make moves. He's

38:35

a one. Tony Pollard feels

38:38

like a two, a dynamic two. Your

38:40

thoughts about trade deadline moves for

38:42

the Cowboys? Is there anything you know you would

38:45

make you'd pull the trigger on this you did? Is

38:47

there anything they should be a

38:49

little cautious about? Is there anything you dip

38:52

your toe in Tomorrow's the trade deadline?

38:55

I think the big concern would be financially,

38:58

if you know it's gonna wreck your salary

39:00

cap totally. But

39:03

if there's room and

39:05

if you can justify with your salary

39:07

cap. With that question, you know,

39:10

Henry would give them a complete football

39:12

team. Yeah, they'd be able. Now,

39:14

I think it would make Pollard that much better player,

39:17

because he's kind of a fringe

39:20

player, and you know, if you're bulking

39:22

up on the inside the stuff, the

39:24

tough running game, Hollard can make some

39:26

big plays, you know, going outside and hitting

39:29

an open seam. But you

39:31

know, they are close to a complete football

39:33

team right now. But a running game, a

39:35

really physical running game, would make them better.

39:38

So I watched year down by

39:40

the Dolphins, and I said that they

39:43

were a little bit of a fraud early

39:45

where they weren't

39:47

a physical team. It was a track team. But

39:50

I do when I watched him yesterday,

39:52

they put away a Patriots team. And

39:54

I want to ask you, Jimmy, in all your years

39:56

of football, did you ever have a team

39:58

that was a bit construc walked at like Miami

40:01

lots of speed, questions

40:03

about their physicality. Can

40:05

you change that in the final

40:08

eight weeks of a season.

40:11

I think the big thing about the Dolphins right

40:13

now is having a Vic Fangio

40:16

on defense. You know, you know, there

40:18

were some you know, local writers and people

40:20

here in South Florida were

40:22

asking me when the Dolphins were struggling

40:25

defensively early. I said,

40:27

you know, just be patient, you know, first of all,

40:29

you got some injuries on defense. Fangio

40:31

is an outstanding,

40:33

fundamental football coach, and they will

40:35

get better as the season gets on. Now,

40:38

if they can get you know, the X

40:41

man at one corner and Jalen

40:43

Ramsey at the other corner both healthy,

40:45

yeah, they'll be that much better. So

40:48

you know, I'm not you know, I'm

40:50

not one to have an offense that's not

40:52

going to be able to run the ball well. But they they

40:55

are. People are so afraid of those receivers.

40:57

You know, it opens up teams for the running game.

41:00

I mean Tyrek Hill, I mean he's unbelievable.

41:03

I don't care what kind of coverage you

41:05

have, He's going to get behind you.

41:06

Yeah, you know, I know he is. And I'll say

41:09

this about Mike McDaniel. He's not a

41:11

coach that needs to be right. He looks

41:13

like he's a guy that wants the solution to

41:15

problems right. He's not dogmatic. If

41:18

you could tell him this will make you better, like,

41:20

I think he would listen to Fangio.

41:23

Oh yeah, and you know the players love

41:25

him. The players love playing for him.

41:27

I think he's got the right

41:30

formula right now with the team that he's

41:32

got with the talent. You know, he's

41:34

running an offense that really suits

41:36

his talent. He's a smart

41:38

football coach, and I think, hey,

41:41

they could very well be, you know, right

41:43

there at the end in the mix,

41:46

because you know, I don't see anybody in the AFC

41:49

other than if Joe Burrow gets hot.

41:51

You know they're in Cincinnati. That's

41:53

going to give him a problem. I think Kansas City is on

41:55

the downhill slide. You know, all

41:58

they would take on Kansas City is if

42:00

Travis Kelsey, if he was to get hurt, they would

42:03

struggle offense. And oh yeah, but that

42:05

defense is carrying him right now.

42:07

So you have teams like San Francisco and Seattle

42:10

with Shanahan and Pete Carroll, you know them

42:12

both that there's some limitations

42:15

at quarterback, but they're really nice teams

42:17

and they mostly win their games. And

42:19

I have my friends in Seattle, and it's you know, that's

42:21

where I grew up. And it's like, I like gin L, but

42:24

I'm not unrealistic, and I like Purty.

42:26

He made a couple of really nice throws. You saw

42:28

that the George Kettle and he can move, but

42:30

you put them on a field with Joe Burrow, and

42:33

it's different in the building.

42:36

You got the roster in Seattle, you got the roster

42:38

in San Francisco. Would you

42:40

draft a court even though you're winning a lot of games?

42:43

Do you draft a quarterback high next year

42:45

or third, fourth, fifth round? Where do

42:47

you go as a coach when you love the roster but

42:49

your weakest talent maybe quarterback.

42:53

I think when you look at your

42:55

roster, you know they're on a

42:57

professional football team. The most important

43:00

person in the entire

43:02

building is your quarterback. The

43:04

second most important person in

43:07

the building is your talent

43:09

evaluator, and that may be the coach

43:11

right then the third most important is

43:13

the coach. But you gotta head the quarterback.

43:16

And I made a mistake when I was with the Dolphins.

43:18

I had Marino and then

43:21

but he was you know, he was actually injured

43:23

every single year that I coached him. But

43:26

behind him, I had Craig Erickson, So I thought

43:28

I was in pretty good shape there. So I didn't

43:30

take Drew Brees and that was a mistake

43:32

on my part. Anytime you've got

43:34

an opportunity to get a quarterback in

43:37

the in professional football, I don't

43:39

care who your starter is you

43:41

need to take him.

43:42

You know, when Joe Burrow was coming out,

43:45

Jimmy, Mike comp was a better version

43:47

of Tony Romo. He can move, not

43:49

a huge arm, elusive, and

43:52

he's obviously he is better than Tony Romo.

43:54

But I always like Tony. I always thought Tony was not only

43:56

a good broadcaster, was a very good quarterback. Burrow's

43:59

fascinating to me because Jimmy, it's

44:01

not a size thing. It's not an

44:03

athletic ability thing, it's not an arm

44:06

thing. What is the juice

44:08

with him? What do you see?

44:11

Well, you know North Turner, who's

44:13

a close friend and really does a great

44:16

job with quarterbacks, was around

44:18

some great quarterbacks, you know Dan Falls, he coached

44:20

Stateman own and on, and so he

44:23

was with the group that worked out all the quarterbacks

44:26

as they got ready for the draft. You

44:28

know, the Sam Donold's,

44:30

the Baker Mayfield's on and

44:32

on. And he called me and he said,

44:35

Joe Burrow has got

44:37

more of what you own in a quarterback

44:39

than any quarterback I've ever seen.

44:42

Wow, this is before before

44:44

the draft. He said,

44:46

he has got extreme confidence,

44:48

he's got a great arm, he's

44:50

got a great feel for the game. He said

44:52

he's better than anything I've ever seen. Wow,

44:55

this was before the game, and

44:57

uh and Burroll has proven

44:59

it. You know, you love to have him

45:02

as the leader of your football team. You love to

45:04

have him as the key guy throwing

45:06

the football. I

45:08

mean, he is a special, special talent. You just

45:10

don't see it come off you come around that often.

45:13

Yeah, it's almost

45:15

anybody could see an Aikman or a Josh

45:18

Allen. It is interesting that you and

45:20

by the way in your career you leaned on guys

45:22

your offensive line, coaches, personnel

45:25

is really hard. So speaking of that,

45:27

and I don't want to pick on a kid, but one of

45:29

the first things that concerns

45:31

me when I see a young quarterback is

45:34

that do they miss the laps. I'm

45:36

not asking you to throw it down the field like Mahomes.

45:39

You got to go ten for ten on stuff

45:42

in the flat drag routes underneath

45:44

that. That was really what turned me off initially

45:46

from Zach Wilson. He's missing the easy stuff.

45:49

You got to go ten for ten. I see

45:51

Jordan love Jimmy, and he's missing

45:53

a lot of easy stuff. And it really concerns

45:55

me. What do you see.

45:58

Yeah, you're the Uh yeah.

46:01

We used to have a kind of a joke, a

46:03

running joke, and somebody

46:05

said that they watched Troy Yateman in

46:07

practice in the ball and never hit the ground, but

46:11

that was true. I mean, it shouldn't hit the ground if

46:13

you're throwing against air. Uh. You

46:16

know, if a quarterback number

46:18

one, you want him to be a great decision maker,

46:20

but number two, he's got to be acrid. I

46:22

don't know that you ever improved the accuracy

46:25

of a quarterback. And

46:27

if you've got an inaccurate quarterback, you're

46:29

never going to be able to count count on I

46:31

mean the crucial times. So

46:33

if you don't have an accurate quarterback, you better draft

46:36

one.

46:37

So I think Sean Payton the lift

46:39

And you've done this before, Jimmy Oklahoma, State,

46:41

Miami, Dallas. Where you coming and

46:44

you know you've got to change some stuff. Then you get

46:46

in the building and you got to change more

46:48

than your thought. The culture, the old line,

46:50

the staff, the owner's crazy. I

46:52

think Sean got to Denver and went I thought

46:54

I had three lifts, I got about six. They

46:57

can't even get the lunch room. They can't get the lunch

46:59

room, right, here, But I got to tell you

47:02

he's now using Russell

47:04

like Pete Carroll did complimentary

47:07

to the run game. And I watched yesterday

47:09

and I'm like, I know Mahomes was sick, but

47:11

I think you can win seven, eight nine games playing

47:14

like that. I didn't think it was luck. That was

47:16

my take.

47:18

Yeah, you know, you run the football. You

47:20

know, Russell Wilson's got talent. You know he's proven

47:22

that over the years. You know, as far as

47:24

going into a losing situation,

47:27

I didn't realize Dallas was so bad until

47:29

I got there. I looked

47:32

around when I first got there, you know,

47:34

they didn't even have an indoor weight room.

47:36

It was.

47:38

As I said, where's all the players. They said,

47:40

it's too cold to work out here. Nobody works out

47:42

here in the off season. I said, that's

47:44

going to change. Then I looked at the roster.

47:47

I went, oh my god. So I cut

47:49

my starting quarterback. No, I traded my starting

47:51

quarterback, Steve Pulora traded him in Kansas

47:53

City for a three. And I cut my

47:55

leading receiver because he couldn't

47:57

outrun me. And so I

48:00

was a total shock as far as the

48:03

talent level. But they had Tom

48:05

Landry. They had great coaching staff,

48:07

and they had had three straight losing seasons.

48:10

They were three and thirteen with Tom Landry,

48:13

so you had to change some things. Well, Sean's

48:15

a little bit better shape. He's got a quarterback that can

48:18

win. Just run the football,

48:20

protect your quarterback, let him make a few plays

48:22

and get some young guys on defense.

48:24

Yeah, all right, Now

48:26

you're gonna go fishing. What's

48:28

a good day fishing?

48:30

Now?

48:30

Now? Is it? Ma? He is

48:32

it? What are you gonna fish for today?

48:35

I'm gonna try to catch me five Heineken

48:38

lights, and if I catched him,

48:40

I'm gonna have a great name. Jimmy.

48:45

I love talking to you. We don't get you off, and I

48:47

love I think you're gonna have success at least

48:49

four of those Heineken w shaw off. All

48:52

right, thanks to me. All

48:54

right, perfect answer, Perfect

48:57

answer for a dumb question.