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always, Jamak, you

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can say a lot of things and argue for a

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lot of things, but sometimes reality

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hit your right square between the eyes

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in Chicago.

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Indeed it does.

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Hey, By the way, reality both of us

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had the bears last night. I even sit sprinkle a little

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on the money line. How about a baby we

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gave up the I'm not sure I had the bears.

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You didn't have bears last night. I know, I coward,

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what are you doing?

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Vikings? All right, here we go, Justin

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Fields. It's over. The first

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sign you don't have a franchise quarterback.

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Your defense gets four interceptions

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and you can't manufacture a single touchdown.

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The second sign, your

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offensive coordinator doesn't want you to throw the

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ball down the field. Thirty

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three starts. If you went to a stand up

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comedian for thirty three minutes and didn't laugh,

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he's not funny. You can keep

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blaming everybody else. Great,

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he's athletic. I would watch

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him if he went to Atlanta. I'd move him

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to Atlanta, get a third round pick.

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He'd be fun Bijon Drake London,

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Kyle Pitts, the Chicago Thing's over

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top. Franchise quarterbacks do two

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or three things really well. They see

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the field, process quickly and accurately

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deliver the ball. I don't

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see it. We've got thirty three starts.

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He's not good enough to pass on a much

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better college prospect who doesn't turn

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the ball over a lot, Caleb Williams. Justin

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Fields has thirty five fumbles and thirty five

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games, a passer rating in the low eighties,

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a completion percentage barely above sixty.

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Caleb Williams is a better prospect. You'll

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be able to start, restart the rookie

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salary clock, and it'll put a new energy

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in the building.

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C J.

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Stroud Game one, with four backups

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on the offensive line in no run game, the

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Texan staff let him sling the ball

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all over the field thirty three

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starts, and this offense, they

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don't want him to throw the ball down the field. Fifteen

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of his twenty seven completions were at or

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behind the line of scrimmage. And I know you

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think you know more than the coaches, but

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what coaches allow players to

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do not just quarterbacks, tight ends,

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corners, safeties. What they allow

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them to do is what they see

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them incapable or not

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doing in practice. This right like, don't do that,

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don't do that. So by the time you get to a game,

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the coaches allow you to do certain

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things that they see you can produce

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consistently in practice. Again,

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Houston coaches c J. Stroud

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first game throwing it all over

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the field thirty three starts

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for justin fields. They won't let him throw

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it down the field. There was one

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completion over twenty

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yards and that was at the end of the game when the

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Chicago coaches had no choice. And

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by the way, he's got DJ Moore a number

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one receiver. He's opened a lot downfield.

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So when you have to consider going

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to a third coach, probably

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not the coaching. The common denominator

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in Chicago is justin Fields.

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Remember y'all banged on Matt Mitch Trubisky.

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I was never a Trubisky fan. I didn't like the

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draft pick. I was never a fan, but

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he went to the playoffs twice. Aaron

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Rodgers was in his prime in Green Bay

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at Stafford was still in Detroit. The

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division is wide open now.

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Mitch Trubisky, who nobody in Chicago

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gave, you know, a second thought as a franchise

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guy. They weren't into it. He went eleven and

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three first year with Matt Naggi. You

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want to know the one year justin fields at

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Matt Naggie two and eight, but

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kind of a swing. And I'm not a

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fan at Trubisky. I would have moved

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off Trubisky early. But Aaron

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was in his prime. Stafford was

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close to his prime, and he got to

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the playoffs twice. Nobody defended

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Trubisky. It's over again. We've got

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thirty three starts right now. He's

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auditioning. Yes, he's athletic.

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Yeah, he seems like a nice kid. Trubisky

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was a nice kid, and yeah, this organization

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doesn't do a great job to draft and

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develop quarterbacks. I agree

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with all that stuff, but Caleb Williams

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is a better prospect. You start the rookie

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salary clock, it's a new energy in the building.

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And Caleb, for the record, doesn't turn the ball

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over much, all right, and he's been running

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for his life for the last two years too,

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So it happens over fifty percent

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of the first round quarterbacks don't make it. It's okay.

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He's athletic enough to get a second opportunity.

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I'd love to see him play in Atlanta. Offensive

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coach Bijan Kyle pitch

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Drake London. I'd watch better Old Line

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than the Bears. I think i'd watch. It's fun,

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it's different, but I don't think Justin

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Field is to hoist the trophy guy. And

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maybe there's only seven of those guys on the planet.

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But like this capitulation

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over, well, he could. He did thirty

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three starts. He completes about sixty

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percent of his throws low passer

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rating, a lot of fumbles. I

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mean, nice kid, but four

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interceptions, no touchdowns. He's

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got a number one receiver, good tight ends.

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The on line's not as awful as everybody claims.

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Capable running backs. The coaches won't

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let him throw the ball down the field. Here's

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justin after.

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We haven't let you know our record defind who we are.

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We know who we are as a team. You know, we know what we're capable

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of, and it's really just going out there and doing it, going

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out there, executing and finishing the way

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we know how the way we did tonight, and really

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just cleaning up the mistakes because you know, if you

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clean up my two fumbles were probably not even

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in that situation.

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Thirty five fumbles and thirty five games he

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fumbles. That's

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the reality this league is

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about. Can you see the field delivered accurately,

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don't turn it over and win games and stay

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healthy. He's not checking a lot of boxes.

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It's time, Okay.

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This story is interesting. Dion

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Sanders loses three

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commitments after

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taking a shot at the ncublea's recruiting

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policy. So you know, Dion

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loved recruiting when all the guys were coming to him, but when

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some started leaving, he said to the NC double

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A, it's not fair. Once you commit, you shouldn't

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be flirting around talking to other schools. So

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first of all, let's start with this. Dion Sanders

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is realizing what

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all Colorado football coaches eventually

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realize. It's

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hard to build a great roster in Boulder. The

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athletic department doesn't have a lot of money and support,

7:03

and the state does not provide a lot

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of great high school football players.

7:08

It was very fun to watch early, but Colorado

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finished four and eight, one in eight in the Pac twelve

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and blew a twenty nine to zero lead against awful

7:15

Stanford. You guys are banging

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on Lincoln Riley. Deon

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Sanders didn't win enough. But

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I will say this in support of him. I

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thought September Dion Colorado was

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great. It was new, it was

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fresh, it was fun. I don't regret

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for a second leaning into it. I like new stuff.

7:34

They were the most watched team in college

7:37

football for five weeks. They

7:39

were a little bit like a TikTok trend wild

7:42

for about twenty four hours, and then they fade into

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irrelevance. But that's Okay, you're

7:46

on TikTok two Colorado

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football. Eventually all coaches

7:51

discover this is Colorado football.

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That's why if you go back to the nineteen sixties

7:56

and the nineteen seventies, the top twenty programs

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then are most of the top twenty programs.

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Now.

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It's a state that doesn't provide a lot of players,

8:03

and you have to convince him to leave Texas in California

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and come to the mountains. It's hard. A

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lot of people I find are

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rooting against Dion Sanders.

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He's different. He brags

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a lot. To

8:20

me, a little showy, I get it. But

8:23

to me. Nick Saban lost to Louisiana

8:26

Monroe in his first year at Alabama. This

8:28

stuff is hard. Dabo

8:31

Sweeney at powerhouse Clemson,

8:33

surrounded by great high school talent in

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the surrounding states, has had

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ten plus wins in twelve straight

8:40

years until this year. He dips a little.

8:42

Dude's got two natties and a

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big chunk of fan base is furious with

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him. That's college football.

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Ryan Day's record in the Big Ten is

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forty one and three.

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Half the fan base wants him out. Society

8:58

is filled with people on the sidelines

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taking shots at successful people. It's

9:03

so easy, you know it's not.

9:06

It's hard. Nick

9:08

Saban built a powerhouse. They weren't winning

9:10

back to back. It's

9:13

hard. Nil transfer portals

9:15

made it even harder. It's

9:18

easy to sit on the sidelines and take shots

9:20

at Dion Sanders. But

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September, Dion, September Colorado

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was a lot of fun. I thought they'd get

9:27

dragged by TCU, and they went to Texas

9:29

and blew them out. But Dion

9:32

is realizing the realities

9:34

of college football. Brian

9:36

Kelly is an excellent coach. Half the

9:38

fan base wants him gone. Ryan Day

9:40

is an excellent coach. Deabo Sweeney's an

9:43

excellent coach. Nobody's

9:45

ever happy. Mario Cristobal is

9:47

at a better program than Dion. He's

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five hundred after two years at Miami. Nebraska

9:52

is a better program than Colorado. Matt

9:54

Ruhle went five and seven. September.

9:58

We all got a little over our

10:00

skis. We got into the hype. It's

10:03

okay. You fall

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in love with a lot of things. People,

10:07

teams, players, businesses,

10:10

opportunities. It's okay. Go

10:12

ahead, be grumpy, never fall in love

10:14

with anything. September football

10:17

for Dion was a blast. I loved it.

10:19

I thought it was crazy, surprise the

10:21

heck out of me. But then

10:23

reality set in. The

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Colorado players de committing. So

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what players d commit from Nick

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Saban, Ryan Day, Dabo

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Sweeney, Lincoln Riley. Players d

10:37

commit all the time. Players have never been more

10:39

empowered. What I find with Dion

10:41

is a lot of people are just rooting against

10:43

him. And you're all experts.

10:45

Now, I told you it was hype, So

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what if it was. Sometimes

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hype is fun, That's okay.

10:54

We all fall for something at some

10:56

time in our lives. I'm rooting for Dion,

10:59

but it is Colorado football. Let's

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temper our enthusiasm. If he gets

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them to a five hundred program,

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that's pretty good for Colorado football. When

11:11

he first got hired, I thought it was weird. A

11:13

day later made some calls, thought, oh,

11:16

he'll get attention. That part

11:18

you can't deny. None of us

11:21

have ever discussed Colorado football more

11:23

than now. And that's part of building

11:26

a losing program into

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an occasional winning program.

11:31

Getting attention. J Mack,

11:34

we got a lot of things going on. I am supporting

11:36

people who get dragged by the media today.

11:38

I want to support Mike McCarthy again

11:40

today.

11:41

Get dragged. He's got a great team. Can I give you

11:43

two teams for Justin Fields for next year?

11:45

Atlanta's got to be one.

11:46

No, Atlanta's not one.

11:48

They have Ritter and Heineke who they like,

11:50

and they just drafted her. Bear

11:52

with me for two quick ones.

11:53

Okay.

11:55

Brian Dable had.

11:56

A lot of success with Josh Allen and Mobile Quarterback

11:58

had some success with Daniel Jones. Okay, we know

12:00

Tyrod Taylor's a free agent. DeVito's

12:02

not the guy Daniel Jones coming off the injury.

12:05

Does Dabolls say, give me, let me try to reform

12:07

Justin Fields. Have a Fields versus

12:10

Daniel Jones showdown in the preseason

12:12

for the job.

12:13

We'll see what happens. I think Fields would be a capable

12:15

backup in New York, maybe the starter.

12:18

I think that's very interesting.

12:19

Okay, Now the second one is a little

12:21

distier kind of workshop.

12:22

This last night.

12:24

Works. Okay, Gilly, let's go.

12:26

I know that he loves Drew Locke

12:29

a lot. I know he loves Drew

12:31

Lock. Nobody else does. We've

12:34

seen the max of Gino Smith last year.

12:36

Okay.

12:36

Now, Water's finding its level. He's starting to They

12:39

got a good team. Gino Smith has not played

12:41

well. Does Justin Fields have a chance.

12:43

To start in Seattle? Could he beat out

12:45

Jenale Smith?

12:46

Now I know Pete Carroll well enough. There's

12:48

one thing that drives Pete Carroll crazy turnovers.

12:52

And I mean I've never met a coach who

12:56

is tougher on players who fumble

12:58

and throw interceptions. Justin Field

13:00

is a bad fit for Pete Carroll. The Brian

13:03

Dabele one is fascinating.

13:05

Here's an ultra safe one for you.

13:07

His agent goes to Justin Fields and says, listen,

13:09

Justin you need to grow up a little.

13:11

You need to mature.

13:11

You need to be in a good organization where you're going to hold

13:13

the clipboard for a year or two and

13:16

go sit.

13:16

Behind Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia for

13:19

a year or two.

13:20

Learn how to be a professional, carry a briefcase to work,

13:22

meet with the media, shoulders up

13:24

broadcasts, speaking confidently.

13:26

Yeah, like you need to be a professional, go sit

13:29

behind Jalen.

13:30

And also, yeah, that's not a terrible idea. The Pete

13:32

Carroll one does not work for me. I

13:35

just know what I know Pete, and I know what he's

13:37

into and running backs at fumble

13:40

and quarterbacks that turn it over. I mean Russell

13:42

Wilson didn't turn it over much, and when he

13:44

did, Pete would mention it at every press

13:46

conference. So it doesn't work in Cigah. The

13:49

Brian Dable one in the Philadelphia one is

13:51

very interesting because we know Justin's

13:53

talented enough to get a second look. I

13:55

would say, see everybody's banging

13:57

on Atlanta and Arthur Smith. I never watch it

14:00

and think, man, they're under coached. I

14:02

think they're under talented, too

14:05

young in key spots. But I think

14:07

Arthur Smith bijon Justin Fields

14:09

better online than people get Drake London.

14:12

That's interesting. That gets me to a television. It's

14:15

interesting. I would watch that. I

14:17

think Atlanta.

14:17

Several spots around the league like.

14:19

Oh, he's gonna get another chance.

14:21

I think he's gonna have a good market. I know people don't

14:23

like him, but he's gonna have Like the Raiders, what.

14:25

Are they doing? What to Shrane Lance got

14:27

a number four pick. Justin

14:29

Fields can get you too. Absolutely

14:32

again, I'm not rooting against him, but

14:35

Mitch Trubisky with Aaron Rodgers in his

14:37

prime and Matt Stafford close to it, got

14:39

to the playoffs twice. You gotta win games in this league.

14:42

I don't want to hear about any win games. Throw

14:44

the ball down the field.

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All right, welcome back at a Tuesday Herd

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Hierarchy. Forty minutes from

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now, top ten teams. In the end, we will

15:00

have a surprise visitor into our

15:02

top ten teams. J Mack's not gonna love

15:04

it, but it's the reality of it. We got that coming up

15:07

in forty minutes. So Dak Prescott

15:09

and the Cowboys play this Thursday on Amazon

15:11

Prime. They place Seattle. They're a huge favorite.

15:14

Truth is at home. They've been a great home

15:16

team. I'd probably take Dallas, even though the number is

15:18

big. Dallas blows out the teams they

15:20

should, and that's where Dak and Mike

15:22

McCarthy deserve credit. Many people

15:24

think I'm anti Cowboy. No I'm not. I

15:27

don't buy into the hype of Dak, but he's a

15:29

very good quarterback. He's had a redeemable career.

15:31

He's a B plus quarterback who has a nights.

15:34

He's a very good player, great intangibles.

15:36

Don't love his arm. Don't think he's as athletic

15:39

as it's been portrayed through the years. You

15:41

know what I mean? I said, I think he's a

15:43

slightly better than Kirk Cousins. And everybody's

15:45

always banging on Kirk Cousins, and everybody gets

15:47

mad when you bang on Dak. They're kind of the same guy

15:49

if I look at their numbers. But he's having the best

15:52

year I've ever seen. He's setting all

15:54

sorts of highs and completion percentage and passer

15:57

rating. The CD LAMB connection is

15:59

real five or six connection in the NFL.

16:01

So let's be honest about it. And Dak

16:04

talked about this season.

16:06

I'm about one goal and it's a big team

16:09

goal. And I know if my name's

16:11

in there that means we're playing well. So that's

16:13

that's great. But what

16:16

I say to myself is I haven't done.

16:18

You know what I mean.

16:18

It's regular

16:20

season numbers are great, we're getting wins

16:23

well, that's what's most important. At the end of the day. We're trying

16:25

to stack and keep growing this team to

16:27

make sure that we're getting better each.

16:28

And every week.

16:29

By the way, he's a little tough on himself. He again has

16:31

had a very good career. Okay,

16:34

seventy percent quarterbacks in the first round,

16:36

don't make it. He's a fourth round quarterback.

16:39

He's been a really good quarterback. Great, not

16:42

necessarily in my opinion, but good to

16:44

very good. Absolutely, he's a grown up, knows

16:46

the position, gets the position. But

16:49

it should be noted this is the best DAK ever

16:51

and it's with Mike McCarthy. Farv

16:55

Rodgers, Dak have

16:57

all had great times in years

17:00

with Mike McCarthy. For God's

17:02

sakes, Cooper Rush was five and

17:04

one with Mike McCarthy. The

17:07

knock on McCarthy and I think the criticism

17:09

is fair. Clock management

17:11

late in games is not great. Late

17:13

game play calling is not great. Yeah,

17:17

join the club. That's what people

17:19

said about Andy Reid in Philly.

17:22

Sean McVay still gets dragged about

17:24

that, and Kyle Shanahan lost

17:26

a twenty eight to three lead in the Super Bowl with

17:29

very sketchy play calling. John

17:32

Harbaugh this weekend a great coach

17:34

dragged for late game decisions.

17:37

It's what most coaches struggle with.

17:39

My guess is because it's hard.

17:43

It should be noted that Aaron Rodgers

17:45

post Mike McCarthy get that

17:48

bomb out of town. Aaron

17:50

had a two to three playoff record. Aaron

17:54

Rodgers with Mike McCarthy had a

17:56

nine to eight playoff record and a Super

17:58

Bowl. Maybe it isn't Mike

18:02

Dallas destroys the teams they

18:04

should. We all love Dan Campbell.

18:06

They laid an egg at home against

18:08

inferior Green Bay this weekend. Dallas

18:11

kicks that, you know what, out of every average

18:13

team they play. I've been

18:15

critical of Mike McCarthy, but he can coach.

18:18

Doesn't have to be my favorite coach, but

18:21

he can coach. I've seen him win with

18:23

Farv Rogers, and Dak arguments

18:26

the last two had their best years with him.

18:30

Dak's the best he's ever been, and

18:32

he doesn't have as good an O line as he

18:34

did his rookie year. He's only got

18:36

one receiver, not a ton of tight end

18:39

production, has a running back that's a two

18:41

not a one. And Philadelphia

18:43

maybe the best team in the league. And he's got to play them

18:45

twice and outplayed him the last

18:47

time they met, though lost. We

18:49

got to be fair about this stuff. Dak's

18:52

having a great year and Dallas

18:54

crushes the teams they should a

18:56

lot of the teams that we fall in love with in this

18:58

league.

18:59

Don't be sure to catch live editions

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of The Herd Weekdays and Noon Easter not

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a Empacific.

19:05

Sometimes the simplest answer is the right

19:07

answer. Justin Fields to Atlanta

19:10

feels like a shot. I would that's I

19:12

would ask yourself this, which one

19:14

would you watch? Oh, I'd go watch that bijon

19:18

Justin Fields, Kyle Pitts

19:20

Drake London, but offensive coach.

19:22

I would go watch Atlanta. I wouldn't bet him

19:25

because I've lost him so much money in my life betting

19:27

the Atlanta Falcons, but I would watch

19:29

that.

19:29

The promise Arthur Smith has two turnover

19:31

Prome quarterbacks, is he what a third one?

19:33

That's a fair point.

19:34

They don't want a guy who throw it. They want a guy who's safe

19:36

handed.

19:37

They would rather have like Andy Dalton as their quarterback,

19:39

not gonna make mistakes.

19:41

I don't think Andy Dalton has a big market either.

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Weekdays and Nooneaster, not a Empacific.

19:52

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You're backing Tim Boyle. Oh my

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Okay? So you

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21:29

in Miami. Tony Sperano was.

21:32

Parcells kind of turned over

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21:42

year olds who can't even have a glass of wine

21:45

in the hotel bar they're staying at. They're not

21:47

physically or mentally emotionally

21:49

ready to play in the NBA. It's not baseball

21:52

where unless you're like a Bryce Harper, are

21:54

you going to be in the minors for years and years. Turnaround

21:57

projects are harder in other leagues,

22:00

they're not in the NFL. The Chicago

22:02

Bears are not all doom and gloom.

22:05

So let me give you an example. Seattle and

22:07

Detroit on one really

22:10

good draft class. One

22:13

year later you were like, Oh,

22:15

they got their left tackle, they got a running back,

22:17

they got this, they got that, they got a receiver. Seattle

22:20

Detroit went from potential

22:22

mass to really

22:25

interesting in one draft class. So

22:27

Chicago has the number one pick and the number

22:29

four pick in the first round. I'll get

22:31

back to that in a second. They're gonna

22:33

take Caleb Williams with the one. They

22:36

also have two fourth round picks. This is

22:38

an exceptional draft at left tackle,

22:40

at quarterback. There's

22:42

a lot of players in this draft. Caleb

22:45

Williams plus an offensive coach,

22:48

plus hitting on two or three other picks. Think

22:50

I'm wrong. The

22:52

Houston Texans were a laughingstock. They

22:55

were a warm weather Chicago.

22:57

In fact, I would argue Chicago had

22:59

antage on Houston. They have a number

23:01

one receiver, DJ Moore. Houston

23:04

had a hit in it on Like fourth round guys,

23:06

receivers matter. DJ Moore's a number one.

23:10

Okay. So the Houston Texans were the

23:12

Bears week ownership

23:15

revolving Dorit coach, not

23:17

an elite, considered an elite front

23:20

office rebuilding roster,

23:23

needed a quarterback. They hit

23:25

on will Anderson on the edge. They hit on

23:28

a coach they had on CJ. Stroud immediately

23:32

viable in a kind

23:34

of wonky division. Well, isn't

23:36

the NFC North sort of a wonky

23:38

division? Who's quarterback in Minnesota

23:41

next year? You love

23:44

Jordan Love. It's

23:47

not dooman gloom. Chicago has

23:49

a potential gold mine at

23:51

that number four pick, So

23:53

I would go get like a Ben Johnson, draft

23:56

Caleb Williams that number four pick. Let's go back

23:58

to the boards. So if you look

24:00

at the draft board, so we know Chicago

24:03

needs a quarterback, they're going to draft one. Arizona

24:06

is going to stay there. They need a weapon

24:08

because they're paying Kyler Murray a fortune.

24:10

They have to validate and

24:12

elevate that position. Marvin

24:14

Harrison is the best receiver prospect

24:17

maybe since Calvin Johnson. The

24:19

Patriots are going to draft a quarterback.

24:22

But then Chicago's at four. I

24:26

would trade down. You could drop down

24:29

five, six, seven spots and

24:31

get players. Tampa Bay needs a quarterback.

24:35

The Jets could draft a quarterback. Think

24:37

they'll go old line. Keep

24:40

your eye on a team like Seattle

24:42

or Atlanta. Atlanta

24:45

needs a quarterback. They've got two

24:47

good backs. They

24:50

have a tight end in Kyle Pitts, who hasn't been

24:52

quite as good as they thought. They have a very good offensive

24:55

line. That number four pick

24:57

for Chicago is a potential gold

24:59

mine. Once you get the quarterback,

25:02

you could trade down just eight to nine spots,

25:04

still get an elite player and

25:07

get multiple picks. This

25:10

is a draft with

25:13

strong quarterback prospects

25:15

and nine teams in the NFL desperate

25:18

for a quarterback or coaches are getting run.

25:21

You could get my takeaway

25:23

on that number four pick. You can get two first for that,

25:27

meaning Caleb Williams is going to have additional

25:29

picks, so they've already got

25:32

two. Fourth offensive

25:34

coach, Caleb, I think

25:37

Chicago. There's a lot of Las Vegas

25:39

needs a quarterback. They wouldn't move up

25:41

to four. They've got

25:44

Hunter Renfro, a star back,

25:47

a great left tackle, a

25:50

star receiver, a great edge rusher.

25:52

They may not want to give up on any of those.

25:55

But the Raiders, I've been saying this all year, they got players.

25:57

The Seahawks are a prime example. Seattle

26:00

does not have. Seattle has one hole in the roster

26:03

quarterback Pete Carroll's

26:05

now in his seventies. You don't

26:07

think Seattle would give up. I mean, would they consider

26:10

saying we'll give you Dk Metcalf, We'll

26:12

give you one of our two backs, We'll

26:14

give you one of our tackles plus

26:16

two. Number one. Seattle has the

26:18

roster. They just need the quarterback.

26:21

And as Seattle, if they lose to Dallas Thursday

26:23

keeps losing and losing and losing, and

26:25

they have like the twelfth pick, eleventh

26:27

pick, Seattle won't move up to

26:30

four. You could get players

26:32

and picks. Pete Carroll now is not

26:34

going to go with Drew Locke. Gino Smith's

26:36

not the answer, and Pete knows it. They need

26:38

a quarterback. The roster is set and

26:41

it's young. Seattle could give

26:43

you picks and players. So that number four

26:45

pick for Chicago, if they stay there is

26:47

a gold mine. They would have been better off

26:49

losing last night keeping that number

26:51

four pick. That number four

26:53

pick, you

26:56

know that's probably

26:58

bo Nicks. In recently

27:00

people think bo Nix is a really

27:02

good number three quarterback in a draft. Maybe

27:05

it's Drake May, maybe it's Michael Pennix, but there

27:07

is that's a gold mine right there. So

27:10

it you know, you talk yourself into doom

27:13

and gloom. The Houston Texans were the

27:15

warm weather Bears. They were a laughing

27:17

stock a year ago. Hitting a coach,

27:19

hitting a quarterback, hit

27:21

on the number that Will Anderson the other edge rusher,

27:24

So you got an edge rusher. A quarterback of coach can

27:26

win a lot of games in this league, can

27:28

win a lot of games. Good coach, good

27:30

quarterback, good pass rush wins a lot

27:33

of games. Certainly makes you playoff viable.

27:35

You can have holes at linebackers, safety. So

27:38

it's just I don't think it's all doom

27:40

and gloom for Chicago. And

27:45

if you move off. So Chicago

27:47

has two first two fourths, they

27:50

could have two two's. If you get

27:52

Justin Fields for you have half

27:54

the lead wanting him. Can you Trey Lance

27:57

got a fourth pick? Can Justin Field's get

27:59

a second round pick? So the Bears could

28:01

hit I think, well he cannot get it. Okay

28:03

a third reason? Okay, two

28:06

first, a second, two thirds, two fours.

28:08

Hit on half of those and get the right

28:10

coach. You're

28:13

absolutely instantly viable in

28:15

that division. So where Fields is helped, you already

28:17

have a number one receiver, you already have an

28:19

excellent pass rusher in Montest sweat you

28:21

have tight ends. I like, you

28:24

have capable running backs. You have an excellent

28:26

corner who's a free agent. Don't tell me

28:28

Chicago to now pieces. They like their left

28:30

tackle, they like their star

28:33

receiver, they like Montesa.

28:34

They still have a coach or a quarterback, which is kind of important.

28:37

But to my point on fields having a market,

28:39

Colum, we've seen a lot of starting quarterbacks

28:41

go down this year.

28:42

Yeah, and nobody having a backup.

28:44

There's a huge value in having a good

28:46

backup, capable backup quarterback. And I'm

28:48

just telling you right now, Like if Jalen Hurts goes down and his

28:50

knees looking tricky.

28:51

I don't I think that's one of your better suggestions

28:53

today.

28:54

Like, they gotta have someone like Mariota.

28:56

He's a veteran, but he's always hurt too.

28:58

You have been a super soaker of hot takes

29:00

today, super sober. Justin fields

29:02

as a backup in Philadelphia is

29:05

interesting. It's an interest.

29:06

It comes down to fields. Hey, dude, do you want to compete

29:08

for a starting job. Do you think you can be a starter or do you

29:10

want to be a backup on it with a good franchise,

29:13

a winning culture, good coaching, like

29:16

there's value in that. But it's a tough sell to a twenty

29:18

four year old to take a step back like he started

29:20

a superstar in high school, superstar in

29:22

college, the top ten,

29:24

top fifteen pick in the draft, Like it's a

29:27

tough sell to be, like, hey, go be a backup

29:29

behind Kyler Murray and you're gonna play because

29:31

he's gonna get hurt.

29:32

Like it's a tough sell.

29:33

I think it's interesting.

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All right, it's the Herd. Hierarchy. Top

29:46

ten teams in the NFL. You're you're gonna

29:48

blanch it. Maybe a couple of them, but here we go.

29:53

Heard hierarchy time. Now let's

29:55

go the top ten NFL teams

29:57

according to College Number

29:59

two.

30:01

Right now today, Denver is a

30:03

top ten team five to zero

30:05

since Week seven. For the five

30:07

teams they've beaten have

30:09

winning records, allowing sixteen

30:11

points a game, best turnover

30:14

differential in the league. Excellent

30:17

backs, poward football, young

30:20

young athletic defense, good

30:22

enough receivers, Mims Cortland, Sutton,

30:24

Jerry Judy, Dulcic coming back

30:26

at tight end. Twenty

30:29

touchdowns, four picks for Russell Wilson this

30:31

morning. That is a top ten

30:33

team in the NFL. Number nine

30:36

Buffalo, Listen, they're crazy, but six

30:38

of their losses are by six points. They are

30:41

what they were three years ago. Josh

30:43

Allen leads the NFL with twenty four touchdown

30:45

passes and thirteen picks and sixteen

30:47

total giveaways. They're one of the more penalized

30:50

teams in the NFL. In fact, I think to the most penalized

30:52

team. This is what they are. They're not buttoned

30:54

up. I called them the Mike Tyson. Just depends

30:56

on who they fight. They'll knock you out in the first

30:59

round or or lose a close fight late

31:01

because they're bad on the details. But you can't

31:03

tell me they're not a top ten team in the league. They had Philadelphia

31:06

beaten about three different times in that football game

31:08

in Philadelphia. Number eight

31:10

Miami. I have my issues with them,

31:12

the speedboat of the NFL. They're

31:14

one in three against teams that are five hundred.

31:16

Are better. But we have to be fair. If

31:19

I'm gonna support Russell Wilson with Sean

31:21

Payton. I gotta support Tua with Mike McDaniels.

31:24

Tua under Mike McDaniels

31:28

sixteen wins, eight losses, sixty

31:30

seven percent completion percentage, passer

31:32

rating at one zero, four point six. It's

31:35

a good team. They don't have the defensive Denver,

31:37

but Tua with this coach

31:40

and these weapons, feels

31:42

like a playoff team to me. Miami at eight.

31:44

Number seven.

31:45

Detroit love their offensive line

31:47

and ability to control the clock with

31:49

the run game. Jared Goff's gotten sloppy

31:52

in the last couple of weeks. They have a hole

31:54

on this team that is going

31:56

to take him out of the Super Bowl running. They're bad on the back

31:58

end of their defense, and I'm not sure this coaching staff

32:00

can solve it. They're just not they don't have the personnel

32:03

in the back end. They're like the Chargers. They can outplay

32:05

and lose because they give up cheap stuff on the back

32:07

end. But they have the number one ranked

32:10

offensive line, the number two total

32:12

offense. They can win shootouts,

32:14

and they are capable of winning a playoff game.

32:16

Detroit number six.

32:18

I like Jacksonville, least penalized

32:20

team in the NFL only

32:22

unefeited team on the road this year. Do you know that six

32:24

and zero on the road? That says something six

32:27

and oh on the road this year. I like Jacksonville.

32:31

Do I think they can win a Super Bowl?

32:32

No?

32:32

That's my top four teams in the league. My

32:35

top four teams I think are super Bowl teams. Jacksonville

32:38

can win on the road, star quarterback,

32:40

clever offensive coach. I got them at six,

32:43

number five. Dallas, they crush

32:45

the teams they should. You do get credit

32:48

for that. Now they've played the easiest schedule

32:50

in the NFL and they've beaten up on the dregs

32:52

of the league. But again you get credit

32:55

for that. Their remaining five games

32:57

are much much tougher. They play

32:59

Sea, Theattle Eagles, Bills, Dolphins,

33:02

Lions. Let's be fair with Dak. Over

33:04

his last six games, he's been terrific.

33:07

Eighteen TD's two picks. We gotta

33:09

be fair. The Ceedee Lamb Dak combination.

33:12

He's got a Burrow, Jamar Chase Field to

33:14

it. It's big boy football. Dallas

33:16

at number five, number four, and here

33:19

my super Bowl teams, Baltimore. I may have them

33:21

one spot low. Listen Baltimore's

33:23

got the number one rush offense and the number two scoring

33:25

defense. I like them.

33:27

They're fast, they're physical opposing

33:30

quarterbacks. Passer rating seventy

33:32

two, lowest in the league. Again,

33:34

I may have them a spot low, but I think

33:37

if they played my number three team tomorrow,

33:39

I take my number three teams. So Baltimore's

33:41

at four, number three in Kansas

33:43

City by an inch. Keep your eye on Rashi

33:45

Rice looks like he could be their

33:48

number one receiver. So I've said

33:50

I think they have a bunch of threes. Rashee

33:52

Rice, he was a second round kid, may

33:54

become the number one. They also

33:56

showed they can score in the second half. They've

33:58

also, let's be fair, with Kansas City played the

34:01

second hardest schedule, I

34:03

still have doubts about their second half offense.

34:05

It was the Raiders. But Rashi Rice,

34:07

his growth is really interesting. Number

34:10

two San Francisco. When Trent

34:12

Williams plays, they win eight and one.

34:15

They leave the NFL in turnover. Differentially,

34:18

I think they have the most weapons in the NFL.

34:20

Philadelphia beats everybody narrowly. They can

34:22

blow people out. If they have their people, they blow

34:24

people out. Devo Christian Kittle,

34:27

I yuk. Those are dudes, and

34:29

I think they can beat you in multiple ways. So I

34:31

have San Francisco at number two.

34:33

Number one.

34:35

Listen, Philadelphia thirty

34:37

one consecutive weeks. They've had the best record

34:39

in the league. It's choppy,

34:41

it's inartistic, but

34:43

they're seven and one in one score games.

34:45

Their O line D line combination is

34:48

excellent. They are not a perfect team. You

34:50

can beat them downfield. My

34:52

top four teams are the teams I believe

34:54

this morning should be favorites

34:57

and can hoist a trophy. Philadelphia

35:00

one, San Francisco two, Kansas City

35:02

three, and Baltimore four. I don't know what

35:04

to do with Baltimore. I think for

35:06

the second week in a row. My take his I probably

35:09

have them low. I do not think

35:11

Dallas hois a trophy, but

35:13

I think they're the closest team to not doing

35:15

it. With Jacksonville that could potentially

35:18

do it, but won't Jamak your initial

35:20

thought.

35:20

Oh my goodness. So I was looking around my desk.

35:23

I need a flag to throw, so I all like if

35:25

it was his tissue box, Calbert,

35:27

what are you?

35:27

We're the Pittsburgh Steelers. How were

35:31

the Houston Texans twelve. No,

35:33

no, no, this this doesn't work.

35:35

Come out, this doesn't even this is Detroit

35:37

Lions at seven.

35:38

All right, let me name Let me just name

35:40

the quarterbacks on this list, not the teams. Jalen

35:44

Hurts, you love Purty Mahomes,

35:46

Lamar Jackson, Dak Trevor,

35:49

Lawrence goff to A, Josh Allen, Russell,

35:51

Wilson, Kenny Pikett.

35:53

Oh so what was?

35:54

Just name me the best quarterbacks of the best team.

35:56

I don't know right now. Best quarterback mostly

35:58

wins the division. Interest you

36:01

can't listen Mike Tomlin Coach

36:03

of the Year. There's no way I can put

36:05

Denver right now. You have

36:07

to unsee September. Denver

36:10

is playing. They've beaten Kansas City, they've

36:12

beaten Buffalo. They're beating good teams.

36:14

So now the sample size is like four or five games, so

36:16

we're basically That's why Denver's had.

36:18

A place where it used to work. Nobody had

36:20

courage. They would just list standings. That's

36:22

not how I roll here. I'm telling you the best

36:24

teams this week.

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36:50

People don't know what to do when

36:53

they see something that's new and different.

36:55

And Jim Harbaugh is that all

36:59

those Ohio State Buckeye fans railing

37:01

and laughing and mocking Jim Harbaugh

37:04

now have the second best coach in the rivalry.

37:07

Nothing against Ryan Day, but he can't beat Harball

37:10

and certainly there's no proof he could get to

37:12

a super Bowl. Harball,

37:14

though, had a moment yesterday and I kind

37:16

of agree with it, and I kind of don't about

37:19

the intensity of the rivalry

37:22

Ohio State and Michigan.

37:25

The student athletes that are they are

37:27

you know, young kids, young

37:30

adults that are playing this game,

37:32

and all we asked them to do is go out there

37:35

and play their very best. I think that is

37:38

it's very manufactured

37:40

for the TV show that

37:43

that people want to want to watch and see,

37:48

but it's not healthy.

37:50

It's not healthy for for the for

37:53

the student athletes on either side.

37:55

When you're trying to put that.

37:56

Much, you know, somebody's

38:01

you know, thinking it's life or death.

38:03

Now, in principle, I do agree

38:06

with Harball, and I think ninety

38:08

nine percent of fans get it. But

38:11

one of the things the media does get right and

38:13

we miss a lot, is how we treat

38:16

college athletes. We're not nearly as harsh

38:18

on them, nor should we be.

38:21

We're just not as harsh on college

38:23

sophomores juniors. Maybe once

38:25

they get drafted it changes, or as

38:27

they get ready for the draft process. But

38:29

I will say the difference between the basketball

38:32

and football culture in America. I like

38:34

the football. I prefer the latter. Our

38:36

basketball culture is perpetual

38:39

coddling. It's not

38:41

healthy. It creates immature

38:43

players, and the percentages of busts

38:46

in the NBA draft are through the roof

38:49

the football culture. They're coached

38:51

hard, occasionally screamed at,

38:54

ridiculed, mocked, mostly

38:57

in a reasonable fashion. They are The

38:59

media doesn't really take out the sledgehammer very

39:02

rarely, very infrequently on college

39:04

guys, but it does create players

39:06

who are hardened, coachable,

39:09

and mature. I think

39:11

the basketball culture in America is in

39:13

a crisis. I watch

39:15

John Morant's personal life Zion,

39:18

and I say to myself, what's wrong

39:20

with it? They're talented. Have they

39:22

been coddled, given too much too early?

39:24

I don't have answers. But what

39:26

college football's culture does create,

39:29

and it's not always pretty, is

39:32

mostly mature players ready

39:34

to produce, producing now at the top

39:36

programs, and eternally grateful

39:38

for the opportunity. Harby

39:40

is right, some people can't handle it. It is

39:43

not life or death. But in America,

39:45

I would take the current football culture over

39:47

the basketball culture, which Steve Kerr

39:50

recently talked about the AAU and

39:52

said it's actually a negative for players'

39:54

growth college

39:57

basketball guys. In fact, basketball

39:59

players don't even have to go to college. The

40:01

top four picks in this past draft were

40:04

from four different leagues. I'm not sure

40:06

if that's a great thing. Maybe it is, maybe

40:08

it isn't. But I like our football

40:10

culture. At times, a small

40:12

percentage of people go over the top, but

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I think it's a very small group of

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people, and by and large, I like

40:19

the college system. I like what it creates.

40:21

I like what it produces. Coachable

40:23

young men, willing to

40:26

play hard, emotionally, physically,

40:29

ready to produce like a C. J. Stroud

40:31

the minute they arrive. Now

40:35

for last night's most embarrassing

40:37

NBA loss, And it wasn't the Lakers

40:40

getting shelled. It wasn't

40:42

by the Sixers. No, it was

40:44

the paper clips, as Jason calls them.

40:47

That Denver Nuggets didn't have the best

40:49

player in the league, Jokic, nor

40:51

their second best player, Jamal Murray,

40:54

or their third best player

40:56

Aaron Gordon. The Clippers

40:59

had all four of their stars Kawhi

41:02

Paul, George Harden. Westbrook. Not

41:05

only did they lose to Denver, they

41:07

fell apart in the fourth quarter with all

41:10

their go to stars and

41:12

had only four field goals.

41:15

DeAndre Jordan last

41:17

night twenty one

41:19

points. Dude, I didn't

41:21

even know he played anymore. Anybody

41:24

who thought this hardened Westbrook

41:26

thing was gonna work. No reason for me to make it

41:28

personal. You fanboys

41:31

just keep taking L's year after year.

41:35

They're below average, shooting threes twenty

41:37

fifth and assists per game. Neither really

41:39

wants to defend on a regular basis. Westbrook

41:42

Harden on the floor together is a minus forty

41:44

three the worst combo on the team.

41:46

Again, no reason to make it personal, but

41:49

I can assure you not everybody

41:52

in this organization known as the LA

41:54

Clippers loved all these moves,

41:57

especially Harden. Chemistry

41:59

matter. Sharing the ball matters,

42:02

committing the defense matters. After

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the game, Russell Westbrook had an incident

42:06

with a fan. Again. I don't like how

42:09

fans Street Westbrook. I'm not a huge fan

42:11

of the player, but he's a human being. He

42:13

works his tail off, he plays hard

42:15

all the time, and fans can

42:18

go absolutely over the top. Westbrook

42:21

talked about the moment after.

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You know, fansy, they can say whatever they want. You

42:26

know, I'm not gonna say now because

42:28

it's not appropriate, But I'm

42:32

just protecting myself. Just unfortunately

42:34

tasty. They can't get away with saying anything, and I

42:36

won't personally. I won't allow it to

42:38

coronto. You

42:41

know, people say anything, you know, getting

42:43

away with it, but.

42:46

I won't stand for it now.

42:49

In fairness, Westbrook went

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to the staff and said, earlier this year,

42:53

I'll come off the bench. I thought that was a team

42:55

move. You know, Harden wouldn't do that. But

42:58

again, the worst life last

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night was not the Lakers when you have your

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four stars and you're playing backups

43:05

for Denver and they don't have their best three

43:07

players. And not only did the Denver

43:09

Nuggets beat you, they

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destroy you in the fourth

43:14

quarter. Jerry

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West is still connected to the Clippers. You

43:18

cannot convince me Jerry

43:21

West supported the Harden to the Clippers

43:23

move. I don't believe it. I

43:26

don't believe it. All his years

43:28

understanding chemistry and balance,

43:31

no way he supported it. I just you can't.

43:33

You can't talk me into that unless I seen

43:35

the sign document that Jerry

43:37

West defended it. But it's not working.

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And last night as

43:43

bad, no Jokis, no Murray,

43:45

no Gordon DeAndre

43:48

Jordan lighten it of they brought him into be

43:50

a locker room guy, not even play