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welcome back to another episode of Cornier's

2:13

Corner. You got me, You got

2:16

my boy Terry in the left hand corner,

2:18

You got him with the marine flag. Craig

2:20

in the bottom left corner, sitting

2:23

in a different spot because every week Craig just

2:25

has to have a different background in his house.

2:27

It's how hard could it be to just put

2:29

the computer in one spot with a microphone

2:32

and just leave it there, man, Like, how

2:34

hard can it be? Now?

2:37

Okay, and we got Jamail on

2:40

the bottom right, everybody's favorite

2:42

hater like your neighborhood friendly

2:45

hater, spider man, everything

2:47

else.

2:47

What's up, bunk, it's all

2:50

facts. Hey, I

2:52

got the I got my secret cup today.

2:54

Pull up, and yet

2:57

we're gonna turn this into like a little afternute

3:00

going up like my daddy. My dad

3:02

used to somehow manage to have his eyes open

3:04

close at the same time. You

3:07

can see a white in his pupil,

3:09

but with his pupil gold man.

3:12

Hey, that's the that

3:14

can say it's alphabet from Z to A.

3:18

He did it from Z to A. Doug,

3:21

we did it.

3:22

Never get a d U

3:26

back with Uncle Pete. Tell

3:28

me that alphabet boss dough with Z come

3:33

old fellas. Hey, boys,

3:36

so it was time to get

3:38

together. Oh y'all. I know y'all. See that the Katiana

3:40

flag in the background right there. You know how I do

3:42

it. I'm the one that's repping. I'm

3:44

dust to pour in, not the only one that reps our hometown

3:47

like like a real laughing at g y

3:50

y'all, y'all live in Oklahoma, but

3:53

stay close to laugh at Louisiana.

3:55

Which but

3:59

if I'm a if I'm gonna keep it on.

4:02

I don't think that's a flag.

4:05

Virtual flag that doesn't even.

4:09

Hey, Jamel, bro

4:13

if I.

4:19

Stop, Jamel, you're not supposed to say

4:21

that.

4:22

Hey, I think it's a flag.

4:24

You're gonna shoot.

4:25

You're gonna say you closer to laugh yet than me. That

4:28

ship puts you fall the way.

4:29

From laughing cartoon

4:31

flag.

4:34

That ball couldn't even get a flag.

4:38

I got. I got a real flag.

4:40

Listen, if a fan cut on

4:42

that ship, just gonna.

4:43

Stay just like that, don't move it,

4:45

don't wave all

4:49

right, fella stop stop

4:52

stop? Okay.

4:55

The reason I want to talk is because, as y'all

4:57

know, we grew up in laugh Yette and

5:00

momhouse was a small house on

5:03

Marta Street, Joggun House

5:06

on Marta Street. But on Saturdays,

5:08

Uncle Murphy, Johnny Edward

5:11

and everybody else always

5:14

made sure to watch the ABC Wild Ward

5:16

of Sports because boxing is

5:18

what matters in the hood. It don't matter

5:21

where you're from. Boxing

5:23

matters, especially to young black

5:25

men in urban America, because

5:28

we saw people that looked like us overcome

5:30

the same type of situations and become

5:33

world champions. Last night

5:36

we had a boxing fight. We had

5:38

a boxing fight that not many, including myself,

5:41

thought that frances and Ganu really

5:43

didn't belong in. Loved

5:45

that he got the bag of

5:48

fighting Tyson Ferry, but did not

5:50

feel like it would be that competitive.

5:53

Lo and behold, it's much

5:55

more competitive than we expected.

5:58

Many thought that Francis

6:00

and Ghanuo won Terry. You

6:03

boxed our whole childhood. You were the only one

6:05

that boxed. You went with that white

6:07

dude, mister Williford in Laughy

6:09

had a laugh.

6:10

Yet, legend dudes and Shelton and

6:12

mister students, you boxed our whole

6:14

life.

6:15

Right.

6:17

You told me today

6:19

that you went back and watched and

6:22

you scored the fight ninety six

6:24

ninety four for in Ghana,

6:27

ninety six nine three for Ghanu. Lace

6:29

how because when I watched it, I

6:32

thought Francis won three rounds, one

6:34

being ten eight because

6:36

of the knockdown. How do you get that he

6:39

won the fight ninety

6:41

six ninety four.

6:43

I actually said the man and I watched it, and

6:47

it's like like I talked to Jamel earlier and

6:49

he was saying the same. He was saying this where

6:51

Tyson Fury had Tyson Fury and in Ghanuho

6:53

had these moments where they weren't really

6:56

doing much. But I just think like

6:58

at the moments even when when

7:00

in Ghanu would when he was trying to clinch in Ghanu and

7:02

Ghana would do something that me and you talked about why

7:04

he would grab the back of his head and he was letting

7:07

some shots go. And I think a lot of those

7:09

shots were the effective shots to me that stoleed

7:11

around, whereas like uh Fiery

7:14

wasn't trying to fight on the inside, he was just trying to put

7:16

that weight on him, trying to hold him down.

7:18

Bro.

7:18

So I just think that in those little those

7:20

spots and Ghanu did enough to

7:22

win those rounds for me.

7:24

Yeah, But Tyson, Tyson

7:26

Fury has made a career of that. Right

7:29

when those guys are giving

7:31

him problems, he uses his size and his weight

7:33

to really fatigue them, and once he

7:35

fatigues him, they really have nothing

7:37

for him. Case in point, Deontay

7:40

Wilder exactly just but there's

7:42

a difference, right, Deontay's got real skinny

7:44

legs. Francis is a big dude.

7:47

So I asked you, Craig, how

7:49

in the world did Francis and Ghanu not

7:52

only compete effectively against

7:54

the greatest boxer of this generation

7:56

a heavyweight, but feeling

7:59

some people mind that

8:01

he won.

8:04

Where's the tape? Where's

8:07

the tape on Francis and Ghana There

8:09

is none exactly, so

8:12

that I think made it a little bit harder

8:14

for Tyson Fury to prepare for.

8:16

So you're a Tyson Fury sympathizer.

8:19

Not I'm just saying. I'm just saying.

8:21

This is the reason why I think Francis had

8:23

so much success in this fight

8:26

with the greatest heavyweight

8:28

of our generation. He

8:31

came in with loads and loads

8:33

of video to watch and see

8:36

pieces and places that he can pick things off.

8:38

And Tyson, I just think over

8:41

underestimated Francis.

8:43

But to put it into action. But to

8:45

put it into action is

8:48

not watching film, Mold. It don't

8:50

matter how much you have seen somebody do

8:52

something. How can you go out there and

8:55

do what Derek Zora couldn't do?

8:58

With Dillion White couldn't do it. Deontay

9:00

Wilder kudn't who is an Olympic bronze medalist

9:02

by the way, how does a guy like Francis

9:04

who has no boxing experience do

9:07

something that all these guys could not do?

9:09

And when you're watching this, pray with the

9:11

blind eye, right, because

9:13

I remember watching a fight with you

9:16

and it was as clear as

9:18

day that Kabib had beat Ally

9:20

Aquenta and you somehow scored the fight for Ally

9:22

Aquenta. So you're a high for judging

9:25

fights. He's as badder than the eye

9:27

I've ever seen.

9:29

How every

9:31

everybody east of the Mississippi

9:34

and across the Atlantic Ocean is gonna be

9:36

like, oh my gosh, this guy is an idiot.

9:38

Come on, bro.

9:41

Was that one lady that always judged the fights

9:43

on.

9:49

Bro?

9:51

She nice?

9:52

She nice to Adelie Byrd

9:54

is so nice.

9:55

Man.

9:55

Every time I see him, I'm like, oh my god,

9:57

everybody just make fun of her. How

10:00

can you put up? But how can you say that though,

10:02

Craig, how does he put in the action with all

10:04

these dudes couldn't?

10:05

Well?

10:06

The number one thing is Francis and Gowan to his game.

10:08

I mean, we have to understand that not only is

10:11

he, you know, a UFC

10:13

heavyweight champion, he took a loss

10:15

and the second time he went back into

10:18

the Ring to fight Steve Amyocic. He was

10:20

a totally different fighter. He went out there

10:22

and he didn't wait. He wasn't the same

10:24

dude that fought in Madison Square, Garden, uh

10:27

and.

10:28

Boston or in Boston lost

10:30

in Boston.

10:31

Yeah, you know, so the guy

10:33

came out, he changed his he changed his repertoire

10:36

and went after the went after

10:38

steep and here he goes against the

10:40

best, and he wants

10:42

to win. And that's what he did. He came

10:44

out there to win. And I don't think anybody

10:47

expected Francis and Gonald to

10:49

go out there and try to get a w

10:51

against the gradest.

10:53

Absolutely, and you know who didn't Jamel

10:55

Tyson Fury. And it was very evident

10:58

because Francis even said when

11:01

they walked to the center, Tyson Fury said to him,

11:03

let me take you to school classes

11:05

and session like you're in over your head.

11:08

But Jamel isn't as simple as Tyson

11:11

Fury underestimated Francis

11:13

and Ghanu. And if so, how

11:15

do you underestimate a dude that worked in the sand

11:17

mines as a ten year old and every time he tried

11:20

to get into France, they would put him back

11:22

into the desert and essentially say

11:25

he you go, man, try to make it in here, try

11:27

to survive. They literally had

11:29

no they they

11:31

had no care for human

11:33

life. In regards to France as when you're

11:36

sticking him in the desert with all these people that

11:38

can't get into your country, how does a

11:40

guy like that get underestimated.

11:43

Let's keep it honest, none of that

11:45

mad. When you go and fight, it's cool

11:47

to build it up, But that don't I

11:49

think.

11:49

So it does disgree

11:52

too. I disagree.

11:53

So you think Francis is the only guy that had that

11:55

situation?

11:56

No, but Jamel, I'm saying, but you

11:58

cannot. You can't. Quo should

12:00

have guys will and his spirit and determination

12:03

when he's seen that is what I'm saying.

12:05

Bro.

12:06

Nah.

12:07

What I think is.

12:10

Tyson Ferry has been fighting boxes his whole

12:12

life, right, boxes, all

12:15

those boxes they come up on the same angles,

12:17

the same punches, the same combinations.

12:20

So you get a guy is

12:22

totally different. The angles

12:24

is different, the punch is coming from. Just

12:26

like when Connor McGregor fought Floyd Mayweather.

12:29

It took Floyd a little bit to figure

12:31

out McGregor's weird angles,

12:34

right, So I think it's the same for Tyson Ferry, and

12:36

I also think that I don't think he took them seriously because

12:38

he didn't. Tyson Fury didn't look good at all. That's

12:41

my opinion. He didn't look I don't know if Frances made him

12:43

look bad or he just

12:45

didn't prepare it. But I just think it's the weirdness

12:48

of Francis lead uppercuts.

12:50

You've seen lead upper cuts sometimes from Francis

12:53

right, Like, it's just weird.

12:55

The only thing I pushed back on that man is that

12:58

Fury has fucked.

12:58

Deontay Wilder awkward

13:02

as anyone.

13:03

That's the awkwardest boxer that you could

13:05

probably fight. So it's like, I think he was

13:07

more awkward watching Fransis and Ghanu. I think

13:09

Wilder is way more awkward.

13:10

Than what's some what's much worst,

13:14

Like while they're just throwing the looping punches, that's what's

13:16

awkward about him.

13:17

Yeah, he just doesn't he's not a traditional boxer,

13:20

Like it's not like.

13:20

Yes, but but but he's been

13:22

trained by traditional trainers though right.

13:26

Cross cross.

13:32

I wouldn't use Deontay Wilder to teach somebody

13:34

how to box, like it wouldn't be my film study.

13:36

Like it was just like when I look at Francis,

13:39

Francis is like zero and zero with

13:41

no boxing experience, and they

13:43

have the same level of technique in a sense.

13:46

It's just that power is the saving grace,

13:48

right, Like Francis has that power.

13:50

I think that's what kept Fury honest. Wilder

13:53

has that power. That's what let allows him

13:55

to make the mistakes that he makes. But

13:58

it's it's the same thing. So I think he has a

14:00

little more experienced with awkward boxes when

14:02

we're thinking about that, but I can't do

14:04

that, don't get me wrong.

14:06

It seemed like tomto Terry. It seems like tomto

14:09

that you being the

14:11

traditional boxing fan because

14:14

as a precursor, guys, when when I

14:16

was at Oklahoma State, Terry moved in with me

14:18

for a little bit, and this dude moved in with

14:21

a suitcase of boxing tapes,

14:23

and so we would watch all these old fights

14:26

on my TV because lord knows, I did

14:28

not have cable, so we would use the VCR

14:31

if we would watch Seinfeld in all boxing

14:33

tapes. So Terry, as a traditional

14:35

boxer, you seem to

14:38

be sour on Tyson

14:40

Fury and his performance. But

14:43

You're not the only one that is

14:45

sour on Tyson Fury's performance.

14:47

Eddie Hearn said.

14:48

This, I'm absolutely lost

14:50

for words. I mean, France and Garno has never boxed

14:53

before, and fair flight to

14:55

him. I mean, I didn't think he was overly impressive, but

14:57

Tyson Fury looked like he's never laced up at pair of clubs

14:59

before got dropped in was it the third

15:01

round, never for a punch, and Garner never threw a punch

15:03

after I thought, and Ghaney won by

15:06

two rounds. The

15:08

boxing world's gone mad. I mean, please either,

15:11

I mean, forget Fury. You see, no one's

15:13

interested. Just give

15:15

us Fury against aj Aj, will knock

15:18

Tyson Fury out inside six rounds,

15:20

make the fight otherwise we'll never get it, or

15:23

rematching Ghanu because the

15:25

guy just deserves to have had one of the greatest

15:27

winds. I don't know what I was watching, I don't know

15:29

what Tyson Fury was doing. I'm still

15:32

I'm still completely lost for words.

15:34

So what Eddie Hearn is essentially saying

15:36

lest is that Tyson

15:39

Fury let boxing down, that

15:41

Tyson Fury looked like he never thought.

15:43

Is this a case of.

15:44

Eddie Hern just trying to get Anthony Joshua

15:47

to fight or is

15:49

this a bit of a universal thought

15:52

from the boxing fan, because

15:54

all day long, Terry, you have been very

15:56

critical of Tyson Fury in

15:59

regards to his before.

16:00

I'll go back with you, Ma. That's why I tell him I'm not

16:03

disagreeing with his tape. But I do

16:05

think Fury was underprepared. I

16:07

do think he wasn't ready for what in

16:09

Ghana was gonna bring. He thought it was gonna be a quick

16:11

fight. He thought it was gonna be a quick three round knockout.

16:14

It's over with Cashi check. But

16:16

Eddie Hearn obviously is caping for

16:19

Joshua. Bro Like, there's no way,

16:21

Like we think that Joshua deserves that fight

16:23

against Fury for the lineal heavyweight title.

16:25

That's Usik. It's the only

16:27

option for that. Dusik might be too small.

16:30

I feel like Usak size will

16:32

be his detriment because Tyson's gonna just lean

16:34

on him the whole time. And

16:37

that's the only downside.

16:38

Man.

16:39

It's like for me, like the Joshua and Fury

16:41

fight would be amazing at

16:43

Wimbley Stadium, or as Craig calls it, Wimbledon

16:46

stadium. That

16:50

would be the perfect fight from

16:52

going her in attention that that boxing

16:55

needs. But I don't think it happens,

16:57

man, like I don't think Joshua.

16:59

I think Joshua versus in Ghanu is

17:01

a more intriguing fight just

17:04

where you can you can put it there than a

17:06

Fury versus Joshua. Joshua is out

17:08

the picture at this point, and so.

17:10

We're bringing the U. We're bringing the bro.

17:14

Bro, Joshua went

17:16

to Joshua went to a resources for fourds

17:18

with nothing, Bro, no lights or nothing

17:21

to our back.

17:21

Bro.

17:22

Wait, so you think that all you gotta do is go to a resort

17:25

with no light? You back Aaron Rodgers, Bro,

17:27

that's it, Aaron Rodgers.

17:30

Aaron Rodgers walking and throwing the football

17:33

right now.

17:34

Less we forget Anthony. Joshua

17:36

was scene spotted with the boy Drizzy.

17:43

That back home he was with

17:45

Drake though, that's that's

17:47

a wrap. Hey,

17:52

hey, hey, Drake is worse than the cover curves,

17:54

Bro.

17:55

What you c

17:59

it doesn't matter. Drake is worse than the cover

18:01

curves.

18:01

Bros.

18:03

If Drake show up in your corner, bet on

18:10

the.

18:10

Other way you're gonna unless

18:13

it's a woman fight.

18:14

Boy.

18:14

He never he never lose women.

18:18

I don't think I mean twelve

18:24

so stupid stop, please stop,

18:27

y'all gonna get me cancer, y'all gonna get

18:29

me canceled. Man. So Jamel,

18:32

this is my question though, man, when when I watched

18:35

that fight, and maybe

18:37

I'm wrong, but I lend credit

18:39

to Tyson Fury for making the

18:41

adjustments that he made to

18:44

keep himself undefeated. Terry,

18:46

I disagree with you. I thought

18:49

Tyson Ferry won ninety five ninety four. I thought

18:51

Francis won three rounds. I thought Francis

18:53

won the today round. I thought Francis

18:55

won round ten, and

18:57

I think no, actually, I thought France won four

18:59

rounds. I thought Francis won the

19:02

third round way he got the knockdown. I thought

19:04

Francis won seven and eight and ten.

19:07

I thought Tyson won one, two, four,

19:10

five, six and nine.

19:13

So I thought it was six rounds to four. And

19:15

I think I scored in ninety five ninety

19:18

four for Tyson Ferry because, as

19:20

Eddie Hearn said, Daryl rounds why

19:22

neither one of them did anything. But

19:25

Tyson Ferry was the guy that was popping the jab.

19:27

That was even if he's hitting you on the glove.

19:30

He's still hitting you right,

19:32

He's still landing something,

19:35

whereas at times it seems like Big Frank,

19:37

who I love, was taking a break.

19:40

And hats off to Francis. First

19:42

time we saw him go twenty five minutes, he looked

19:45

like he couldn't even get up against Steve Ba. He was so

19:47

tired. In Boston, I had just finished

19:49

he fought ten rounds with the best heavyweight

19:52

box in the world, and he looked pretty

19:54

good, even winning the last round. But

19:57

I think that you have to give credit to him

19:59

Jammelle, for making

20:02

the adjustments in ring to

20:04

allow for him to stay undefeated. But is that not what

20:06

you expect from the guy that's the lineal heavyweight champion

20:09

of the world.

20:10

I would expect that, but I don't think he made

20:12

many adjustments he did.

20:14

Jamel, what did he do differently on

20:17

I really just hit on the outside, pop shot

20:19

at him, slowed the page down.

20:21

I think what you guys, I think what you guys are missing

20:24

is how he slowed the pace down to

20:26

where it was.

20:26

It was.

20:27

It was one of those boxing fights where you started

20:29

round one, two, three, because everybody,

20:31

even Canelo, starts slowing

20:34

the first couple of rounds. I felt

20:36

like Tyson slowed into that pace because

20:38

he recognized in that pace Francis

20:40

could not go tick for tat with him.

20:42

Jill, So I get I

20:44

get you saying he stayed on the outside. But

20:47

Tyson, fear of being a great that he is, I thought

20:49

he would have taken advantage of some of those

20:51

moments when uh, Francis looked

20:54

super tired, right, like Francis

20:56

is out there, bro. When Francis do, yeah,

21:00

this is bro, I

21:03

was like, this dude is tired. And there was a point

21:05

in the fight where I'm like, please don't fall for

21:07

the okie, doe, bro. It looked like Tyson Ferry was

21:10

just walking into him for

21:12

Francis to throw punches to get

21:14

him tired.

21:14

For that.

21:15

I think it was eight nine for the last

21:17

three rounds, I think, and I'm.

21:18

Like, please don't fall for the okie. Do you remember that one

21:20

Floyd fight. I think he was fighting who Tarry?

21:22

Who was he fighting? Was it Canelo? When

21:25

he was just walking and his daddy told him he was like, man,

21:27

sometimes you just gotta kind of walk up to him and let them throw

21:29

punches to get tired.

21:31

Maybe Victor Tis Victor Tis

21:33

maybe, so.

21:35

I knows, because Victortius

21:37

was the one where you had that little crazy.

21:41

So so that's what I started feeling.

21:43

Like, I'm like, man, I think

21:45

Tyson Ferry is trying to hit him with the okie though, you.

21:47

Like playing possible on him, playing passa like

21:49

that, like when you're the roper dope like mom and

21:51

I lead type.

21:53

Just lean on him a little bit, just let him throw punches.

21:55

And I think Francis was getting tired. But

21:57

I thought they had some rounds where Francis could have still

21:59

be because Tyson Fury didn't do that much right. He

22:02

had a couple of explosions, bro.

22:04

And that's what I say, Like, I feel like

22:06

he did more damage, bro, Like when he was laying

22:08

in his shots, he had the more damaging shots.

22:11

So that's why I was trying to look at the middle rounds.

22:13

I gave it to Francis, bro.

22:14

Yeah, but but of course though, but look at the pictures.

22:17

But it doesn't matter, right, because

22:19

I think this is what we're missing. We

22:22

as fans now still tend

22:25

to judge fights as a

22:27

whole when Craig in reality,

22:30

it's wrong by round it's wrong

22:32

by round and Craig. It feels

22:35

like universally people say stuff. People

22:37

have said Francis won the fight,

22:40

Tyson won the box match.

22:43

You can completely agree with that he

22:45

was the better boxer. I mean,

22:48

even even in a tightly

22:50

contested fight, he still

22:52

was the better boxer.

22:54

How scored Craig.

22:57

I After the fight, I thought.

23:00

They had it, they had it right, Not

23:03

until seven thirty this morning. I rewatched

23:05

the fight and I took two rounds

23:07

back from Tyson Fury and gave.

23:09

Y'all all doing that. You're all doing that. You're all

23:11

doing that, y'all be to

23:14

rewatch.

23:15

It, Okay, to rewatch you why?

23:17

This is the reason why.

23:18

While I was watching the fight, I

23:20

was watching it hype for Francis, but

23:23

I was watching it with anticipation

23:25

for Tyson Fury to be a

23:28

little bit more spectacular than he was. Even

23:30

though he wasn't, I still felt

23:33

and Ganda wasn't spectacular enough to take

23:35

it.

23:35

So it's almost kind of like.

23:36

That old mantra of you gotta beat

23:39

the you gotta beat the championship.

23:41

That is the most bulls in the world.

23:44

That's one of the worst things in all

23:46

the sports history. You gotta beat the champ

23:49

exactly.

23:49

That's what that fight was, and that's that.

23:51

That was my feeling leaving that fight, like

23:54

man, like, Francis did a great

23:56

job, but he just didn't win. When I watched it this

23:58

morning, bro, I'm like, no, like, he

24:00

didn't have to beat the champion to beat.

24:02

But y'all Francis,

24:05

y'all know Frances. Y'all like France. So

24:07

y'all trying to score to fight for Francis.

24:11

To tell you what.

24:13

I didn't the first time I watched the fight live,

24:15

I was like, man, I was like, Francis

24:17

did a great job. I was happy for him. He

24:19

lost, but I was happy for him. When I watched it

24:21

for the second time, I watched it with no emotion. I

24:24

was like, I'm just watching this fight, man, I want

24:26

to do that.

24:28

You can't even do that.

24:28

But you can't just eliminate the fact that you

24:30

you you can't eliminate the fact that you

24:33

know one guy and you don't

24:35

know the other. So you can say I'm gonna watch

24:37

it with as unbiased eyes as I

24:39

can. It doesn't work like they can

24:41

watch it was Francis to

24:43

win. I want nobody but still

24:46

nobody is that. Nobody is that

24:48

fucking nobody's as

24:50

that much disciplined to say, bro, I

24:53

lost to John Jones in the first fight, and

24:56

I'm you three months. I think

24:59

you three months might have been like, man, it might have been three

25:01

to you. No, it was not three to two.

25:04

I am arena

25:07

again.

25:07

I was walking out the arena, thought you that's.

25:10

What I'm saying that.

25:15

But that's the thing, though, that's what y'all are doing. In

25:17

regards to France Francis.

25:19

That was in the moment though, That was in the arena.

25:22

But when you.

25:22

Watch it back, obviously see okay, yeah

25:24

you can. He didn't want to fight.

25:26

But in that I

25:29

was like, man, they got.

25:31

The craziest thing in the world. And

25:34

that's why you guys don't

25:36

have the ability to watch Francis fight Tyson

25:38

Fury and feel and

25:41

watch the fight with unbiased eyes because

25:43

we spent time with Frances in Boston, we

25:45

have seen spent time with Francis and places like

25:48

Vegas, and because of that, you

25:50

cannot watch it and unbiasize. I'm sorry.

25:53

I wasn't even gonna watch the fight. That's how

25:55

I was excited.

25:56

I was for this thing, so I know I could watch

25:58

it with unbiased eyes. I

26:00

thought Francis was gonna get finished in three like

26:02

that was my That's why I didn't even watch it.

26:05

But if Francis won, But

26:07

it's like saying this the rightest say, it's

26:09

like Francis is the king of the world now. But

26:12

is he one bad performance from being

26:14

like, oh, we knew this is what it was and

26:16

Anthony Joshua fighter Deontay Wilder

26:19

fight where it doesn't go that way?

26:22

Or is he really this high level box

26:24

Do you guys really think Francis and Gano is now

26:26

this high level box that can be with these guys.

26:28

He's not a high level boxer, but he

26:30

can't lose, Like, it don't matter what's one of.

26:32

Those guys he's fight, he would not lose. Even

26:34

if he lose the fight, he don't lose. Bro.

26:36

Why he's not supposed to be there. He's

26:39

not supposed to be fighting those guys zero

26:42

zero one zero guy fight all the champs.

26:45

It's not supposed to crazy Francis.

26:47

If I'm Francis, it's no more mm A for me

26:49

though, really, so you're not going back to

26:51

mixed martial arts.

26:53

Or what.

26:54

To go?

26:55

Make so much money? Less?

26:56

Bro?

26:58

Who would have thought Francis could go? Who would

27:00

have thought Francis could go thirty minutes?

27:02

They said, Francis might have made between ten and twenty

27:05

million dollars.

27:06

Why go back to the momute? PFL to make what two

27:09

million?

27:10

Five?

27:10

Probably five? I would go feed on

27:12

them. PFL will take.

27:13

Them last two champions.

27:15

But the PFL guys, But Jamel, these PFL

27:18

guys are not necessarily top fifteen

27:20

guys in the world. He ain't fighting sleeping

27:22

and John Jones?

27:25

Okay, what was the Let me ask you what was

27:27

the hardest day of training?

27:31

The hardest day?

27:32

Grab that Wednesday? Right? Wrestling

27:34

or wrestling?

27:35

Wrestling?

27:37

You ain't gotta do that no more?

27:38

Bro.

27:38

You could just stand up and make

27:41

triple what you're about to make.

27:42

Why?

27:43

Or you can be like Tyson Fury and say

27:45

you go do a twelve week camp and look like ship

27:48

when you fight.

27:49

Y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all, all types of Fury. Bad

27:51

Bro. For me, BRO looked

27:56

like grimms dog.

27:59

Can I can I tell you cross over a fight? I don't want to

28:01

see dog, Hey,

28:03

I want to see DC. No you

28:05

remember who we saw. We saw him at WrestleMania.

28:07

He lost weight, right,

28:10

he lost a lot of weight on I

28:12

think I think DC versus.

28:14

Butter being Dug all

28:16

you direspectful, But Ben.

28:23

I'm not trying to see my dug DC crossing

28:26

the ring. Bro.

28:26

I can't.

28:27

I don't think I could be lost a lot of weight though.

28:29

I don't think nobody can. I don't think I

28:31

could beat nobody that wants. Part of the day, my

28:33

body is still hurting like

28:35

a lot.

28:36

Bad.

28:37

I'm putting CBD all over my legs

28:39

and my body bad.

28:40

Hey COVID, Hey,

28:43

I bet for a I bet for ten million

28:45

dollars. Your back feel better?

28:47

Time he's got Sean

28:50

Merriman, say put him in. He put me

28:52

in for that. I'm going to fight. Hey

28:54

wait stop, let me let me

28:56

ask you guys this. Let me ask you guys.

28:59

This.

28:59

I felt

29:02

like on Saturday, MMA

29:06

has a whole one in boxing loss. Oh

29:08

yeah, Is this thought real

29:11

or am I just kind of looking at this through

29:14

MMA covered glasses, wanting

29:16

the MMA fighter because my

29:18

thought is And I put a video out which,

29:20

by the way, guys, three hundred and sixty

29:23

thousand views in twenty four hours. I

29:25

appreciate and love each and every one of you

29:27

for the support I

29:30

thought. I don't believe for a second that any

29:32

MMA heavyweight should

29:35

be able to compete with the lineal heavyweight champion

29:37

of the world. But I also know for a fact

29:39

that no boxer could do

29:41

to an UFC I

29:44

don't even think you gotta do a UFC champion because

29:46

we can agree. Right, generally, the UFC

29:48

champion is considered the lineal

29:51

champion.

29:51

Right.

29:52

Obviously there can be some

29:54

chinks in the chain, like right now, Jones

29:56

would not be considered lineal because he did not

29:58

beat Francis, who did

30:01

not beat this dude, I get it. But

30:04

generally, the UFC champion in MMA

30:07

is the baddest fighter in the world

30:09

in that weight class.

30:12

Is there a boxer in the world that

30:15

could do what Francis did last night? And

30:17

if not, is that an indicator

30:19

of boxing as a sport.

30:22

It's just not on the level of mixed martial

30:24

arts in terms of real life competitive

30:26

it's not Terry. I know you kind of rolling

30:28

your eyes because you feel like I'm taking a shot at your

30:32

lifelong love, But is it the truth?

30:35

He fought the lineal heavyweight chap of the world.

30:37

When are we talking about fighting?

30:39

Like it's just straight up like this said a street fight, right

30:41

Like if in Ganu knocked Fury

30:43

down in the third, if that was na,

30:46

he follows him to the ground, he pounds him

30:48

out, that it's over right, Like that's

30:50

easy money for him.

30:51

I said, he was not heard. Fury said he was not hurt

30:53

at all.

30:54

Just the fact that he went to the ground changes

30:56

the dynamics of the whole fight, right, And

30:58

I'm the same, Like I look at James town Man, like

31:00

James Tony is a legend inox.

31:02

That was bad. And

31:05

then he fought Randy cortur Man and that was

31:07

in his forties, late bit

31:09

to late forties.

31:10

That was easy money, right, And it was like Randy

31:12

cortur doesn't have amazing striking, he's aco

31:15

Roman wrestler. Like so, like he took

31:17

out a legend in boxing, right, Like so

31:20

I just don't see like as much as I

31:22

love the skill set, that's my favorite skill set.

31:25

That's my favorite thing to watch still. But

31:28

yeah, if you're a heavyweight champion in

31:31

mm A is the baddest man in the planet,

31:33

man, I gotta I gotta sit there and admit that, yavel.

31:36

Do you agree? Is

31:38

there a boxer that could do what Francis did? Good

31:41

Friends? Could Tyson to

31:43

MMn fight John Jones is in

31:45

a free fight in the skill set that they

31:47

can use everything.

31:49

No, I don't think any of the boxers could come because

31:51

they have never they have never practiced

31:53

wrestling, They've never had a takedown.

31:56

Maybe, but because I know his kids wrestle,

31:58

Bud Russell's Budd fighting around

32:00

wrestling, so maybe he could defend take downs

32:02

and all that. But also, like

32:04

I said, the angles is so different though,

32:07

Bro, Like.

32:08

I saw Budd, I saw Budd doing jiu

32:10

jitsu. Bro.

32:12

Maybe, but is the only one.

32:13

Maybe Bud is the only one that could maybe have some

32:16

type of success. But any of those other

32:18

guys, Bro, there's no way, Like,

32:20

like a guy in the UFC that don't even have a

32:22

top wrestling background is gonna be

32:24

able to take those guys down.

32:26

Well. Craig Randy Cootour was a Greco

32:28

Roman wrestler, but he shot a little single

32:31

on James Tony and I think maybe that was

32:34

probably the most telling factor in

32:37

how a boxer would could be

32:40

against a mixed martial artists inside of a cage.

32:42

So I mean, you think about this. Your chest

32:44

is up when you're boxing. When you're

32:46

fighting, you're trying to bring everything

32:49

in to get your shots off, to get your kicks

32:51

off, to get your jabs off. You're open

32:53

to everything. Your stance is a little lower. If

32:55

you're six ' five, you're six three when you're

32:57

in the cage. You know these boxes,

33:00

they're upright. Their movement is

33:02

guided through their hips, not their chest

33:04

like you would be in MMA. So yeah,

33:07

it's just not happening.

33:09

Yeah, bro, you know for me, it's

33:11

like I believe, for

33:13

the record, no one could do it. Frances

33:16

did. It's unprecedented, it will never

33:18

happen again. And there were a lot of

33:20

people that question whether you know all

33:22

week bro, he carried a bag that said fumbled

33:24

the bag. And guess who said some

33:27

dumb shit like he fumbled the bag with me? Of

33:29

all people, I'm the one that was saying he fumbled the bag.

33:32

Dude.

33:32

I was scared for him. I didn't

33:34

know what was happening. I was like, go back, bro,

33:36

Like I know you can get seven mili in

33:39

the UFC as the heavyweight champ. Go

33:41

back but he

33:43

obviously made the best decision for him

33:45

and now he made a boatload of money

33:48

and there are a lot of fights out there

33:50

for him. But now, guys,

33:53

Sean O'Malley is arguing with Devin

33:56

Haney about a crossover fight.

33:58

You got Jake Paul saying he's gonna go to m m

34:00

A fighting DS. Now does

34:03

any of this interest you guys? You know no,

34:06

it doesn't.

34:08

Like I don't like to see it, Bro, I just don't

34:10

want to see I don't want to doing.

34:13

What are we doing?

34:14

Yeah, like this is stupid.

34:15

No, we

34:17

gotta stop at some point, just

34:20

we can't do everyone. But every time you catch your

34:22

belt, it's like, all right, let me call out boxing. No,

34:24

man, defend your belt. Man, go get two

34:26

of them. You know what I'm saying, Like, I

34:28

don't like to see it, Bro, I don't like to I don't

34:31

like the BS fights.

34:32

Man.

34:32

You actually had boycotted the fight yesterday.

34:35

Bro, I wasn't gonna watch like until you call me,

34:37

Bro, like I was gonna I was gonna sit

34:39

there.

34:39

I was watching like Murder Mysteries, Bro. So

34:42

like when you.

34:43

Call me, I'm like, You're like, oh, you gotta

34:45

I got this watch because

34:48

I really just thought that he was gonna get I

34:50

don't I'm not interested in this stuff.

34:52

Bro.

34:52

You know what I told him, Jamel, I said, you better

34:54

watch it right now. You're gonna have fomo. He's

34:57

like, what's fomo? I said, if f you're missing out,

34:59

I said, oh, my our Friends is just walking right

35:01

now. It looks so cool. You got all these

35:03

dudes. I was like, I gotta watch

35:06

this ship right.

35:08

I wouldn't gonna watch it either until then you

35:10

called me to and he was like the fight all

35:12

starting to fight, So I hurry up and

35:14

wait and look. But I'm like, you didn't want to watch it, bro,

35:17

Like I didn't think. I didn't think Friends

35:19

was gonna get knocked out because of like Peri's

35:22

power. I just thought he was gonna get tired and kind

35:24

of be like just get finished

35:26

that way.

35:27

But I just would.

35:28

I don't like it, Bro, you know why I'm shook on it

35:30

all?

35:31

Wow.

35:31

Twenty five years ago, Bro celebrity brought

35:34

boxing when the Fridge fought my new

35:36

bowl. Bro, Bro

35:39

like in the reft kept on saying, all

35:41

right.

35:41

Fellas like that might

35:43

have been mis lane man. Bro.

35:47

He said all right, fellas, you ain't gonna get paid if y'a

35:49

don't start throwing some punches and

35:51

you seven seven eleven,

35:54

Bro, And and the fridge is

35:56

a fridge, my brother, and

35:58

they just stand out.

35:59

That looks like

36:03

and that's all it is is celebrity boxing,

36:05

Bro, Bro, celebrity

36:07

boxing.

36:08

So when all these crossover fights are starting to kick

36:10

off, I just immediately immediately

36:12

think of celebrity boxing. But I mean they

36:15

have a tangle about it now though,

36:17

because it's it's actual combat

36:20

sports guys getting in there and they're

36:22

fighting.

36:22

So Bro, you

36:24

know, you know, you know lost the most

36:26

last night. I thought that boxer lost. I

36:29

thought that Tyson Fury lost a little bit. I

36:31

thought you sick lost a lot.

36:34

Because now the interesting that fighters, people

36:36

will now start to want to see Francis fight

36:38

again opposed to fighting him against

36:40

us, which I don't know if it happens

36:42

in December, because I think Tyson might

36:45

need a little bit of time to reevaluate what he's

36:47

doing. But but you

36:49

don't think he should fight in December.

36:51

Not in December. I don't think you're prepared.

36:53

He's not ready.

36:54

He showed that I'm not taking

36:56

nothing away from Francis. But I don't think Fury

36:58

is ready to go in December.

36:59

December, but

37:02

that's different body styles, t that's different

37:04

punching problem.

37:05

I think he do small. I think Francis

37:07

was bigger than he thought. That gave him problem.

37:09

And France is strong. Every time he

37:11

got to the clinch. I think Francis's MMA

37:14

background, the ability to control

37:17

the clinch really gave him problems

37:19

because he would just throw him off him. He really

37:21

would just throw him off of him because he understands

37:23

how to maneuver the weight.

37:25

But usick being small,

37:27

though he's a slick South Paul man,

37:29

he can he can fight. He

37:32

showed that against Anthony Joshua. You can't

37:34

just walk him down and over power man. The

37:36

dude is a soft Paul. He got power,

37:39

he got angles. He's kind of like

37:41

a bigger version of Lomo right like

37:43

where he can get them angles. He can catch

37:45

you like he's gonna make you look bad if you're

37:47

not ready, and if he's not ready, he

37:50

gonna get beat up.

37:51

Bro Tyson hasn't tired before.

37:53

He's retired before. And like I said yesterday,

37:56

he might want to consider looking at what his future

37:58

looks like for him before here we go. Guys,

38:02

I appreciate it. I appreciate you all thoughts

38:04

on this because I know boxing

38:06

is something we have watched for a really long time. But for me,

38:09

I love watching Francis, the king that he is,

38:11

take a chance on himself and say,

38:14

you know what I can do. This went out

38:16

there and did it and did it at a super high level.

38:18

And now I mean he

38:20

is going to ride as high as anyone has

38:22

ridden in a really long time.

38:25

There's one thing to leave the UFC. It's

38:28

another thing to leave the UFC is the heavyweight champion

38:30

of the world. That's what Francis and gan Who

38:32

did and last night he showed that

38:34

he belongs. It's just was

38:37

our Saturday is what frances

38:39

and Gano did. And Saturday night when

38:42

Francis showed is that he belongs

38:44

and that with the best heavyweights in the world. Would

38:48

I would advise, though, be

38:51

very smart what the future looks like,

38:53

because I believe that a one performance away

38:56

from being just another MMA guy,

38:59

that's step into a realm that you

39:01

were not familiar with. So for all the

39:03

good will you made in the fight against Tyson

39:05

Fury last weekend. You

39:08

cannot fumble it like

39:10

you like the bag by going in

39:13

there with someone that could prove that,

39:16

by going in there with someone that

39:18

could prove to be too

39:21

dangerous, too skilled, and to

39:23

experienced for you inside

39:26

of a boxer ring, there is no more surprises,

39:29

and I don't know if Francis and Gano needs to surprise

39:31

anyone. Guys, that was

39:34

Cormier's corner. I'm DC. That's

39:36

Terry, Craig and Jamel.

39:39

We appreciate you guys support. Hey

39:42

pulling up for the boys and make sure you guys

39:44

always tap into what we're doing because

39:47

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39:49

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till next time. Peace,