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Jmac Nick right in one hour,

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mark few Gonzaga basketball coach

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stops by before

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we get to the big games this weekend.

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The JJ McCarthy stuff is starting

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to feel like Zach Wilson. I'm

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not joking. And yesterday

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in Los Angeles, damage

1:01

control, whatever you want to call it, all

1:04

the big dogs in Los Angeles for the Dodgers,

1:06

Otani spoke finally about

1:09

what could be the biggest mess

1:11

baseball's had since the Pete Rose

1:13

betting scandal.

1:14

Right, a lot of gambling in sports stories

1:17

this week. Gotta love that, right, we do gambling?

1:19

Well yeah, well, let's start with that, Otani

1:21

said yesterday met with the

1:23

media, read you

1:26

know which, again from a foreign

1:28

country, needs an interpreter. I'm

1:30

not bothered by Otani reading

1:33

what he wanted to say for about twelve

1:35

minutes. I know, cynicism

1:38

gets retweeted in America today

1:40

and naivete gets mocked. I'll

1:42

be a little naive. He said. He never gambled

1:45

on sports ever, and he was ripped off and

1:47

lied to by his interpreter. So

1:49

I just want to throw this out there. A

1:52

great athlete who's got a complicated

1:55

game. He hits andy pitches, making

1:57

the most money ever by an American pro athlete.

2:00

That's the contract he signed. In

2:02

those peak years as

2:05

a young athlete, you

2:07

are focused on your sports,

2:10

your endorsements, your training, your

2:13

performance. You

2:15

have to trust your body to people, your

2:18

money to people, your career to people. Even

2:21

paying taxes for a pro athlete, every

2:23

state taxes you differently. And

2:26

when you make Otani money, when you make

2:28

celebrity money, these aren't accountants,

2:31

These aren't business people, and most

2:33

of the time they're twenty three years old. Kareem

2:36

Abdul Jabbar, an academic

2:39

ripped off John Elway

2:41

went to Stanford lost fifteen

2:43

million dollars in a Ponzi scheme. Tim

2:48

Duncan, Kevin Garnett lost

2:50

tens of millions. Robert

2:52

de Niro lost eighty eight million

2:55

dollars, Billy

2:57

Joel lost ninety million. They're

3:00

artists, they're celebrities. They're

3:02

focused on their gifts, and

3:05

they're often young and rich and

3:07

distracted. And there's

3:09

those peak years for an actor,

3:11

a celebrity. Again, these people, they're

3:13

the opposite of accountants.

3:15

It's all personality, it's

3:18

all art. It's not

3:20

about numbers. Most people are turned

3:22

off by that stuff. Who are artists and athletes.

3:24

They don't care about that. They weren't raised around

3:27

people that were, you know, buying hedge

3:29

funds and mutual funds. They don't know

3:32

a foreign land. You need an interpreter

3:34

to speak to the media. Maybe

3:37

I'm naive. I can see him get ripped

3:39

off. I've seen school funds get ripped

3:41

off. I've seen banks get duped

3:44

and bankers and economists

3:47

and charities and companies.

3:50

So for an international player who

3:53

needs an interpreter to just

3:56

speak to the media

3:58

when he says, I don't gamble on sports, and

4:01

I get totally ripped off. Maybe

4:03

I'm naive I can get it. I

4:07

mean, how many times a week do you

4:09

get an email or a

4:11

scam phone call? I must

4:13

get six phone calls a day a

4:15

day, and it says on my phone

4:18

potential scam. I

4:20

get emails constantly and

4:23

some I had my wife

4:25

have to talk me out of something about a year ago.

4:27

They said I owed back taxes and I had to

4:30

send money. I was duped. My

4:32

wife's like, I would call your accountant.

4:34

I did. He said it's fake. It's the second

4:37

person I've seen get this, and it looks

4:39

incredibly authentic. So

4:42

like Otani, different country,

4:45

every state's got different laws and rules

4:47

on gambling and taxes. He's

4:49

a celebrity, and

4:51

how do you rip somebody off? You get proximity

4:54

to that person, numbers names. An

4:57

interpreter is about the closest

4:59

ally you can have. Oh Taani

5:01

to me is a brilliant kid. I saw a lot

5:03

of people in the media yesterday. He's just reading.

5:06

He's just reading his answers.

5:10

Well, if I was a sportscaster and moved over

5:13

to Asia, I would read my answers

5:16

to it at press conference. If I was in

5:18

perceived hot water right,

5:22

like I think we're trying to be a

5:24

little sinister or a little We're

5:27

all being cynics here. Nobody

5:29

is buying the reality of young people,

5:31

young celebrities who in my

5:34

life have been ripped off, and the scams

5:36

are getting much more sophisticated.

5:40

So I don't know, I'm gonna

5:42

be naive here. I can

5:44

see a young kid getting ripped

5:46

off, not really having a clue. But

5:48

Colin his initial story was different

5:51

than this story. I can see him initially

5:54

trying to help out the interpreter, who

5:56

it's been reported was his ally,

5:58

his best friend in the country, sort

6:01

of trying to help the guy out, and

6:03

then realizing, oh, this is way worse than

6:05

I thought. I've really been ripped off. I'm

6:07

ticked off. The Dodgers had to fire

6:10

him again. I've seen it

6:12

my whole life, young rich celebrities, Billy

6:14

Joel, Robert de Niro, John Elway,

6:16

Kareem, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan.

6:19

I mean, there was an agent years

6:22

ago that I think was in

6:24

the NFL that ripped off dozens

6:26

of athletes. That's why

6:28

leagues have these rules

6:31

that you have to qualify to just

6:33

be an agent. And they're pretty darn strict.

6:35

It's why there's only a handful of agents

6:37

in baseball, Scott Boros football

6:40

and the NBA. There's about six agents

6:42

per sport that have all the clients,

6:45

and part of that is they're trusted

6:47

by the league. So

6:50

file me under naive, file

6:53

me under not going to be a

6:55

cynical media person. I kind of believe

6:57

the kid got ripped off. I

7:00

do, and if I'm wrong, I

7:02

actually hope he got ripped off. I

7:05

hope he got ripped off. I hope it goes away.

7:07

I hope the kid's career doesn't go into the

7:09

tank. I hope he ends

7:11

up elevating baseball. I hope

7:13

he's a star for a great organization. Yeah

7:16

I do. I don't like talking about this stuff.

7:18

I don't root against kids. I'm

7:20

hoping he got ripped off. I really That sounds

7:22

so weird to say, but that would

7:24

be the best conclusion. He was naive.

7:27

The interpreter took interpreter took him

7:29

for a ride. You know. The good news is he's pushed

7:31

all his money down the road, so the big

7:33

chunks of his money don't happen for years, so he'll

7:35

overcome it a lot of these athletes and celebrities.

7:38

It's at the end of their career, past their earning

7:40

years, so potentially

7:44

it's quick, it's ugly, he got

7:46

robbed, and it's over. That's what I'm hoping

7:49

for and today that's what I believe we'll

7:52

see. All right. It

7:54

happens every few years, and

7:57

it happens a lot with quarterbacks. Bec

8:00

is all of a sudden. You watch a college quarterback

8:02

in your life, it's pretty good player. He'll

8:04

go like late first round, early second round,

8:07

and all of a sudden, he starts flying up the

8:09

draft board. He doesn't play any

8:11

games. Maybe he had a good combine,

8:14

but the combines in shorts, there's no

8:16

defense. His pro day, you're throwing

8:19

to college teammates. That has

8:21

become JJ McCarthy. According

8:23

to a story this morning, many believe

8:25

he'll be the second player picked. Folks.

8:29

He had twenty two touchdown passes in

8:31

fifteen games. Caleb

8:35

Williams had ninety three touchdowns

8:37

with bad offensive lines the last two years

8:40

at USC, JJ McCarthy

8:42

had twenty two touchdowns in fifteen games

8:45

with a great o' line, a great run game, a great

8:47

coach, a great defense, Caleb

8:49

Williams, bow Knicks, Michael Pennix,

8:52

Drake May, and Jaden Daniels all averaged

8:54

over three hundred yards of games passing. JJ

8:57

McCarthy last year did it one time against awful

9:00

four and eight per Due. He averaged

9:02

under two hundred yards throwing. This

9:04

is starting to feel like Zach Wilson of the

9:06

Jets, where he has a couple of throws on his

9:08

pro day. We start going ooh his

9:11

arm, Oh, he moves well, there's a

9:13

lot of zip. Both he and Zach

9:15

Wilson are six to three and in my opinion,

9:17

a little spindly. I

9:20

don't know. JJ McCarthy's

9:22

college experience is not the NFL.

9:25

I said this a month ago. It's very Alabama

9:27

quarterback. You always have the best coach,

9:29

You always have a lead, you always

9:32

have a great O line, you always have protection,

9:34

you always have a great run game. If

9:37

he goes number two, like the executive

9:39

says, you go to Washington

9:41

that was the thirty second ranked offensive

9:43

line, You'd go from the best college O line

9:45

to the worst NFL line. You'd

9:48

go from the first or second best college run game

9:50

at Michigan to the twenty seventh run game.

9:53

It would be the opposite of your Michigan

9:56

experience. Caleb Williams

9:58

actually goes to the Bear, They'll have

10:00

much better offensive pieces than

10:03

USC did. It'll be like

10:05

cruise control. He's thrown to

10:07

two star NFL receivers. He had

10:09

one in two years at USC. The

10:12

Bears appear to have their run game and offensive

10:14

line right, and two capable tight

10:16

ends Cole Comet and Gerald Everett.

10:20

To me, the guys that succeed

10:23

in this league, their college experience

10:26

mirrors their NFL experience.

10:28

That's why Ohio State has had so many great college

10:31

quarterbacks, and c J. Stroud is the first

10:33

one. We're like, whoa, whoa, we got a

10:35

star here. Because Ohio

10:37

State has such great players, They're always leading,

10:39

they're never behind. They get protection. And

10:42

so when I look at the JJ McCarthy situation,

10:44

it's very TUA, you know, it's very

10:46

Bamma quarterback. It's Arry mac jones. I

10:48

mean, there are things I like about him, but

10:51

I mean second, Drake

10:53

May's bigger and stronger. Caleb Williams,

10:55

much more explosive, better

10:57

numbers across the board. He can hit three hundred

11:00

yard passing game one time. Lance Zerlin,

11:02

who I bring on this show. Dad was an NFL

11:04

coach. He works at NFL dot Com. He scouts.

11:07

He said McCarthy should continue

11:09

to improve as a passer, but

11:11

he fails to stand out in many areas

11:14

that tend to be predictive of top

11:16

level success in the NFL. And

11:18

now we have him going number two. He

11:20

was very efficient at Michigan,

11:23

he was rarely, if ever, dynamic

11:26

dominant. He never asked to carry

11:29

the team. I mean, I said,

11:31

from the very beginning, I didn't really get

11:33

it, and I never got Zach Wilson. And

11:36

there are things I like about him. It's awesome

11:38

to have Jim Harbaugh as a college coach because

11:41

he coaches like an NFL coach. He brings

11:43

that NFL intensity and

11:45

so I like that. But

11:47

the last three years Michigan's

11:49

been beating Ohio State, and the reason they've been beating

11:51

him the run game and the defense.

11:55

The Michigan defense better than Ohio States,

11:57

and the Michigan physicality and run game better

11:59

than Ohio's. So,

12:01

I I mean, I'm

12:04

not anti JJ McCarthy, but

12:06

I always it always cracks me up. I mean, you have NFL

12:09

coaches now not even going to the combine.

12:11

You have GMS rolling their eyes at the

12:13

combine. The Rams don't send anybody.

12:16

Pretty good franchise, they don't send anybody. And

12:18

we're falling in love with combines and pro

12:21

days. Watch

12:25

out if you go look at

12:27

the history of the NFL quarterbacks. Isn't

12:30

it remarkable how many of them

12:32

did not go to power schools. Big Ben

12:34

went to Miami of Ohio for

12:37

a while. The cow Bears had three quarterbacks

12:39

in the NFL, and so did NC State.

12:43

Why because the college experience

12:45

for Aaron Rodgers not playing with five

12:48

star guys or Matt Ryan at Boston

12:50

College, or Russell Wilson

12:52

at NC State or dak at Mississippi

12:55

State or Kirk Cousins at Michigan

12:58

State. They have to carry

13:00

the team. They don't get great protection,

13:03

they don't play with leeds, they don't always

13:05

have a great run game. They have to play

13:07

from behind. That's very similar to

13:09

the NFL. I mean, you would think

13:12

the NFL would be a bunch of USC in

13:14

Oklahoma and Ohio State and

13:16

Notre Dame quarterbacks in Alabama.

13:18

It's not. Patrick

13:20

Mahomes goes to Texas Tech. Josh

13:23

Allen goes to Wyoming. Why

13:26

because they lived a real NFL

13:28

experience, playing from behind, playing

13:30

with less talent, with a second best coach.

13:33

I mean, Michigan is like Alabama, best

13:36

coach, best A line, best run game,

13:38

best field position, best defense. Now

13:41

he's flying up the board. I'm

13:43

not saying he's not a franchise quarterback. If

13:45

he goes to Minnesota. Now

13:49

that works. He can sit for a year

13:52

Commanders, He plays Day one Commanders.

13:54

He gets a defensive coach, the only in his

13:57

division Minnesota offensive coach.

14:00

SOA's got a better O line with

14:02

Aaron Jones, a better run game, dominant

14:05

receivers, top tight end the

14:08

Minnesota JJ McCarthy

14:10

landing spot where he can slowly

14:13

sit for a year behind Sam Darnold. That

14:15

could work. Washington

14:18

play now, defensive

14:21

coach, horrible O line, no run

14:23

game. That doesn't

14:25

sound like it's going to work at all. Jmack,

14:30

I know you're rolling your eyes. You love JJ

14:32

McCarthy, but this this thing is going.

14:34

That was quite a rent there.

14:36

I was looking up as you were sitting you and you're

14:38

prattling on about production in

14:40

college.

14:41

I was the game doesn't matter that much. Cam

14:43

Newton one year starter at Auburn.

14:45

Only one year. I know Cam was the he was

14:47

arguably knew he was the greatest one

14:50

year of college quarterbacking ever. Correct.

14:52

So then I found another guy, Joe Flacco. Now

14:54

he was a multi year starter at

14:56

Delaware. Become huge arm, huge

14:59

athlete. He was a great

15:01

prospect. So the other guy was Jay Cutler, who started

15:03

for three years at Vanderbilt. But his stats were very,

15:06

very modest.

15:07

But that's not Remember Jake

15:10

Cutler played at Vandy. He trailed.

15:12

They had the second best talent in every game

15:14

he played. These Alabama

15:17

quarterbacks, none of popped.

15:20

You always play with the lead, you

15:22

always have the best coach, You always

15:24

have protection. Matt Lionerd at USC

15:26

under Pete Carroll, I think he got hit four times,

15:29

I mean really popped. It's like it's a different

15:31

experience.

15:32

So is the argument that McCarthy

15:35

just didn't have enough experience.

15:36

Stats in his college experience

15:39

for the last three to four years will

15:41

not even resemble his

15:45

NFL experience. But

15:47

it won't even resemble it. He's going to be

15:49

under duress on every play. I

15:51

mean, that's why the COVID year gave

15:54

us all the bad quarterbacks. Teams rearranged

15:57

the deck chairs on their schedule by

16:00

which always has a tough schedule, played an easier

16:02

schedule, And Zach Wilson was really

16:04

good in his pro day and you played less

16:06

games and there was zoom meetings. That's

16:09

not the real world to get to the NFL, and Zach Wilson

16:11

is literally completely over his skis.

16:13

It's a tsunami of New York press

16:15

and New York intensity in a bad old line.

16:18

No more coastal Carolina.

16:19

So I guess the big argument would be, well, listen, Jim

16:22

Harbaugh knows quarterbacks.

16:24

He's the one who said I want Colin Kaepernick

16:26

in the second round. I rip.

16:27

Somebody aggregated something from Michael Lombardi

16:30

saying Jim Harball loved Tony

16:32

Romo, he had him as his favorite quarterback coming out.

16:35

They didn't end up drafting him. But Harbaugh

16:37

does no quarterbacks. So it's like, hey, do.

16:39

You trust the numbers and the production or

16:41

do you trust Jim Harbaugh.

16:43

Well, Jim Harbaugh also has something

16:47

up his sleeve. Perhaps JJ

16:49

McCarthy going up

16:51

the draft boards would then provide

16:54

four top five quarterbacks,

16:56

not three. So right now, Pennix,

16:59

bo Nix and mc carthy six months

17:01

ago were seen as secondary

17:03

guy later first, and everybody

17:05

was talking about Drake May and Caleb a year ago, and

17:07

Jade and Daniels wins the Heisman. But

17:10

if McCarthy then moves up to a top five

17:12

or six guy, oh, who has the number five pick

17:14

the Chargers and hardball, and so therefore

17:16

they come rushing up the board, Jim can trade

17:18

back because Jim Nosy needs a right tackle, a

17:21

center, two receivers, a tight

17:23

end, a corner, a defensive tackle.

17:25

Jim needs picks. Jim needs

17:27

extra picks. They have an extra four, he needs

17:30

an extra one.

17:31

Just so people know this whole odds

17:33

to draft second overall, they're very

17:35

low limits.

17:36

You can't go put two.

17:37

Thousand dollars though, you cannot do that, So

17:40

I don't know. I'm very suspect of McCarthy

17:42

going second overall.

17:43

Come on, I just I'm following journalists.

17:46

Yes, yes, Big Jay, it's

17:49

fascinating.

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So the NFL Draft Kings yesterday

18:02

came out with NFL win totals,

18:04

and this is what they do for a living.

18:07

I've said this before. The truth serum

18:10

in all of sports is Vegas. Even

18:13

when Vegas sees a

18:15

pattern they don't like, they're the first

18:17

ones to discover you

18:19

can have a gambling problem a certain situation

18:22

and the NBA going on right now. So

18:24

DraftKings comes out and says, here's

18:27

the wind total. I tend to bet under on

18:29

win totals. They're kind of you know, everybody's

18:31

optimistic. Every prediction

18:34

is rows colored glasses, So

18:36

I tend to bet unders. But there

18:38

were three different takes

18:43

from the wind totals yesterday. First,

18:45

the kirk Cousins take the

18:48

Vikings, who have a lot of

18:50

personnel and an excellent young offensive

18:52

coach. Their win totals six and a

18:54

half, and the Falcons

18:57

is ten and a half. Minnesota's

18:59

got much better players. Why

19:03

kirk Cousins. Kirk

19:06

Cousins is really good. Vegas gets

19:08

it. DraftKings gets it. People inside the

19:10

league get it. Shanahan likes him.

19:12

McVeigh likes him. Kevin O'Connell likes him.

19:14

He's just really expensive. Six

19:17

straight years he's given you sixty

19:19

five percent or more completion percentage

19:22

third in passing touchdown since he joined

19:24

the Vikings. Do you know since

19:26

he joined the Vikings he has fifty six

19:29

fourth quarter touchdown passes, more

19:31

than Patrick Mahomes and

19:34

Josh Allen, Joe Burrow,

19:36

Matt Stafford. The

19:39

Atlanta and Minnesota numbers

19:41

illustrate how much Vegas

19:44

and DraftKings respect

19:47

Kirk Cousins. The guy can

19:49

deal. Now. He's the opposite of justin fields.

19:51

It's never spectacular, it's

19:54

always efficient. It's never

19:56

wow, it's always oh,

19:59

but it's really really

20:01

successful. My second takeaway

20:03

is the Bears win

20:05

total is eight and a half. DraftKings

20:09

in Vegas are telling you Caleb Williams

20:11

is going to work because the division is

20:13

going to be better this year. Green Bay's young and

20:15

only getting better. Detroit

20:17

is young and only getting better. Both

20:19

of them over and under ten and a half on DraftKings.

20:23

So what they're telling you is Ryan Poles,

20:25

the GM of the Bears, who had a rocky start,

20:27

has had a very good last year.

20:31

Dj Moore Trade Keenan

20:33

Allen, Jerald Everett, DeAndre

20:36

Swift, draft capital on the

20:38

old line, Montees sweat deal

20:40

was a big hit, So it's telling

20:42

you Caleb Williams is going to work.

20:45

This is a much better situation in

20:47

an improved division. Eight

20:49

and a half is a viable playoff

20:51

team. Pretty impressive

20:54

they're buying into Caleb Williams. And

20:57

the third takeaway is the Rams that

20:59

won ten games last year

21:02

are at eight and a half. That

21:05

shows you the respect for Aaron Donald.

21:08

The Rams won ten games last year,

21:11

almost beat Detroit in the playoffs. They

21:13

have eleven draft picks, and last year

21:15

they had five different home runs in the

21:18

draft outside of the first round. They

21:21

hit home runs in the fifth round, home runs a couple

21:23

of them in the third round. They can draft. They have eleven

21:25

picks, They have a top five coach,

21:27

a top six quarterback, a top

21:30

ten passing receiving duo, eleven

21:33

draft picks, and they think

21:35

they're gonna win only eight and a half games.

21:38

Seattle still doesn't have a star quarterback.

21:41

We don't know if Arizona's got the right coach.

21:43

They're not a very good team. The NFC's

21:45

weaker, and they're downgraded from

21:47

ten wins last year and momentum and could have beaten

21:49

Detroit in the playoff game to eight and a half.

21:52

That tells you how dominating

21:55

and how special Aaron

21:58

Donald is with

22:00

the news. Turn

22:03

on the news.

22:04

This is the headline news.

22:06

All right, the second day in a row, we got Dallas

22:09

Cowboys chatter colin very quiet

22:11

offseason continues, a lot of Cowboys fans

22:13

upset. Michael McCarthy is now chiming

22:16

in. He is not worried about the state of the roster.

22:18

In fact, somehow he believes the team

22:20

is improved.

22:21

Really, I'm a.

22:22

Big believer in a second or thirty year jump. You

22:25

know, we have some young players. We got some guys coming back

22:27

off hour that were young players that were

22:29

excited about. So we are definitely

22:31

improving. You know, we're just we're just

22:33

not part of the free agent market right now. And also

22:35

it's I mean, there's there's a lot, there's a lot left, So

22:38

I mean it's you know, you'll probably have a market

22:40

right before the draft or post draft, and then

22:42

you got your June first market and you know, obviously

22:44

we'll have another draft class. So of

22:46

great confidence in our roster.

22:49

All right, well, we wish you the best. To look there, he's

22:52

got nice lighting. That was a nice uh, very

22:54

nice setup, very in Dallas, very

22:56

nice home in Dallas. He's the coach of the Cowboys.

22:58

Very impressers look like leatherbound books. That's

23:00

what it looked like to me. Sense he's set

23:02

a local anchorman in the seventies. It was quite

23:04

a Lot's.

23:05

Gonna be a name.

23:05

He's gonna have to put that house on the market.

23:07

Come on, I mean, come on, doesn't

23:10

have any final year there, right,

23:13

Well, I you know

23:15

Jerry is. It's interesting. Jerry

23:18

is generally given coaches more time

23:20

than you would suspect a big brand. Remember

23:22

when George Steinbrenner when you were a kid. I don't

23:24

know if you remember this. He would fire He must have fired

23:26

Billy Martin three times. George Steinbrenner

23:29

would just run through managers. Jerry

23:31

Jones has actually been the opposite. He tends

23:33

he tends to hire coaches

23:35

that need him, right like Bill

23:38

Parcells didn't need him and it didn't work. He

23:40

tends to hire coaches that need him Jason

23:42

Garrett, Mike McCarthy was out of work, and

23:45

then give them more time. You

23:47

know, Jerry likes to be needed and

23:49

necessary in people's lives, and

23:51

I think he did. He tends to hire coaches. Jason

23:54

Garrett wouldn't have had a job without him. Jason Garrett

23:56

didn't have a market once he left. Mike

23:58

McCarthy was on the each at

24:00

good point, and Jimmy Johnson at

24:02

the time didn't need him. Later, but at the time

24:05

it was Jimmy's first big break into the NFL.

24:07

Parcels is the one that didn't need him

24:09

in parcels and he didn't work very long.

24:12

So I Jerry

24:14

gives coaches a leash.

24:16

Yeah, next up. NFL's got some interesting

24:18

rule changes now.

24:19

Listen.

24:20

I wasn't really online munch yesterday, but I

24:22

did see a lot of people freaking out. I

24:24

don't know where you want to start. The hip drop tackle has

24:26

been banned. They're changing kickoffs. The

24:28

hip drop's going to be tough to police, you know, like the

24:30

referees already.

24:31

Have it kind of tough.

24:32

Yeah, you know what it's going.

24:34

To be a fifteen yard penalty and an automatic

24:36

first down.

24:36

Yeah, that's that's really punitive. So the

24:39

reason they're doing this punitive they

24:41

want to get rid of it completely. And so

24:43

this will if it was a five yard penalty and not

24:45

an automatic first down. The coaches would not

24:47

care but fifteen yards and an automatic

24:50

first down.

24:51

But the injuries are so ghastly from

24:53

this ian, Yeah, they're really I'm glad they're

24:56

stomping it out, you know.

24:57

Yeah. Now, I do think smaller

25:00

players cornerbacks are yelling, hey,

25:02

how do you tackle a bigger guy?

25:04

Most of these hip drop tackles are

25:09

most are avoidable.

25:12

I contend there's ways to tackle.

25:14

You teach tackling. This is what you teach

25:16

in OTAs is that there's ways

25:19

to not do that. And I also think

25:21

they'll do it in the most extreme cases

25:24

because I mean, this tackle happens

25:26

six to eight to ten times a game, so you have to

25:28

be very careful about it. But you also

25:31

see about once a weekend you

25:33

see a real obvious hip

25:35

drop tackle and you call that one.

25:37

Well, these guys have been tackling for five, ten, fifteen

25:39

years, right, going back to the youth football,

25:43

hip drop has always been part of their way they tackle,

25:45

right.

25:45

I mean, I think it could be difficult,

25:48

but.

25:48

These guys all of a sudden stop doing a

25:50

takedown the way they have, Well.

25:52

I mean, I don't know.

25:53

I would argue pilots have to

25:55

be re taught constantly. I mean,

25:57

if you look at most jobs in America, people

25:59

are going back to school. In

26:02

the NFL, for years, guys went head

26:04

hunting and then you were told you can't go head

26:06

hunting, and people didn't head hunt.

26:09

Yeah, it'll take a minute. I'm sure this year there will

26:11

be some rocky moments.

26:12

What they'll do is they'll call it every

26:15

eighth play during the preseason and

26:18

September. So expect a lot of this call in

26:20

preseason in September, so the NFL

26:22

is like, we're serious about this, take

26:25

it seriously. And then over the course

26:27

of a season November, December,

26:29

January, there'll be a little more leeway

26:32

on it. They don't want to decide big games in

26:34

playoff seedings, but you're going to see in

26:36

preseason and in September they're

26:38

going to be all over this call.

26:41

Now, the kickoff, the new kickoff rules

26:43

are interesting. So we've got a rendering year

26:45

of what it is going to look like. But kickers

26:47

will line up at their own thirty five yard

26:49

line, but the players are

26:51

going to be pushed up closer

26:53

as you can see in this.

26:55

Video to the opposing team.

26:57

Now, this is confusing if you're not watching. But it's

27:00

essentially what they don't want is the guys getting

27:02

like a fifteen yard head start going top

27:04

speed, and that's why you get them really nasty.

27:06

Well, you're asking the kickoff

27:08

area has been moved up. They're asking kickers

27:10

to pooch the kick. Okay,

27:14

pooch the kick collisions there, Yeah,

27:17

so the violent collisions, the kickoff still

27:19

remains. They're just asking kickers,

27:22

hey, pooch the kick that.

27:27

Therefore, it's not a dead play because

27:29

right now in the NFL, ninety percent of kickoffs go

27:31

into the end zone. You go get your beer. It's a wasteed

27:33

pay.

27:33

I don't have a problem.

27:34

I don't have a problem with it either. It'll be a really live

27:37

play.

27:37

So the one thing I didn't see is, you

27:40

know what the deal is with onside kicks?

27:42

How are they gonna so on side kicks? We

27:44

talked about this. I'm not sure if this passed yet,

27:47

but you can only do it I think. Wasn't

27:50

it like fourth quarter, a couple of minutes left and

27:52

you have to say you're doing it, but you are allowed.

27:55

You have to announce we're doing it on side kicks.

27:58

What what will happen though, is I

28:00

forget exactly the parameters on it, but you are

28:03

allowed now to use a uneven

28:05

line to give you some chance. So

28:07

the new on side kick rule. What they're doing

28:10

is they'll be fewer of them,

28:12

but you'll have a better chance to recover

28:15

them. So again, like the PAT,

28:18

it's now a real play the kickoff.

28:20

This is why the NFL has always been better

28:23

than baseball at this. They look at dead

28:25

times in their sport. Pat forever

28:27

was beer thirty. I mean, just go get a beer. Oh

28:29

now guys miss them all the time, especially in November,

28:31

December, January when it's windy. In

28:34

those big games, guys miss pats. It

28:36

changes the arithmetic. So kickoffs

28:38

to me has been a wasted play for about ten years.

28:41

So just now they're forcing kickers

28:43

kick it higher into a landing

28:45

spot, forcing an actual

28:48

return, real tackling,

28:50

real ball carring. It's a real live play.

28:52

Timing of this with the XFL, you know,

28:55

like, essentially, are we gonna have to

28:57

invest now more in kick returners? I

28:59

don't, No, it's too early to tell,

29:01

but this maybe one team will see this is an

29:03

edge and kick returners are more valuable.

29:05

Than they used to be. I talked to

29:08

an NFL GM yesterday and

29:11

he told me I sent him

29:13

some thoughts on a receiver, and

29:16

he said, really like him, he'll go

29:18

fifth round. I wish he was a returner

29:20

too, So that tells

29:23

you a GM is like, hey, listen, we kickoffs.

29:26

It's going to be a vital thing.

29:27

Seems like it's going to be more live than he used to.

29:29

Yeah, so returners will have a little

29:31

bit of a renaissance. I believe we

29:34

may not get a Devin Hester, but there'll be a little

29:37

bit of a renaissance for a kick returner who is unique

29:39

and special.

29:39

And I always regarding the on side kicks,

29:42

I just go back to that Sean Payton's surprise on sidekick

29:44

and nobody knew what was coming perfect

29:46

time, and like, I don't know, will we lose

29:49

that element again? The new rules are not

29:51

even twenty four hours old, but.

29:52

There's a reason we all go back to one

29:54

eye sidekick in our lives that we remember

29:57

the Sean Payton. Also, fair percent

30:00

of onside kicks are feudal, So the NFL

30:02

is saying let's do fewer of them,

30:05

but have instead of four percent recovery

30:09

rate by the kicking team. Let's make it seventeen

30:11

to eighteen percent. Still low, but

30:13

now you have to watch it. Yeah, now it's a

30:15

little trickier. So I think in all these

30:17

the pat the onside kick if it comes

30:19

to fruition, and the kickoff rule,

30:21

in all of them, they're doing it for the right reasons.

30:24

Give fans real

30:26

action. The kickoff now goes to the end zone

30:28

ninety percent of the time.

30:29

Now, final story is the Boston

30:31

Celtics did what you love

30:34

when they do blow a huge lead in the

30:36

fourth quarter, Colin In, I mean, listen,

30:38

the NBA has been bonkers this year with the variants.

30:41

The Celtics led by thirty thirty

30:43

against the Atlanta Hawks and now ended up losing

30:45

the game one twenty to one eighteen

30:48

on the road. I'm not going to make

30:50

this an indictment of Boston in late game clutched

30:52

it.

30:52

There's Jaylen brownstick ting another.

30:54

Blowitatum with a turnover,

30:57

and this is much

31:00

should do about nothing to me. But I think this

31:02

shows how wild the NBA

31:04

is.

31:04

You lead by thirty and lose

31:07

that never ever happened, I mean extremely

31:10

rarely. It feels like Celtics are winning

31:12

by fifty or they're blowing massive leads.

31:15

Right, They've won I think three games by fifty.

31:17

So you take nothing out of another massive

31:19

blown lead by the Celtics.

31:22

Speaking of leads, did you see what their lead is in the East.

31:25

I think it ten and a half games over the.

31:26

Bucks or whatever it is.

31:28

I do not have this as a topic

31:30

today. I could be wrong on this, but don't

31:32

they play Atlanta back to back games? Sorry

31:35

my takeaways. They got a lead and they thought, yeah,

31:38

these guys stink, and they just fell asleep.

31:40

I fell Aspsten.

31:41

This is why in youth sports you got to choke

31:43

out the opponent. You cannot give them any wiggle

31:45

room.

31:45

You're the worst youth coach for us. He literally

31:47

leads by twenty eight and he's got a press.

31:50

I'm not calling off there, bro. We lost

31:52

a brutal championship by one.

31:54

We were heavy underdogs. It was an amazing

31:56

game.

31:57

Parents telling me afterwards it's one of the best youth games

31:59

I've ever seen.

32:00

It was epic. People drink at youth games. That's

32:02

why they say, yeah

32:04

so that the Celtics play the Hawks Thursday.

32:07

So they played in the first of two and they lead

32:09

by thirty late and they're like, yeah right, let's

32:11

save it for Thursday, and it gets

32:13

a little side.

32:14

Probably go to Magic City last night after the loss.

32:16

We don't know it up Kirk showing

32:18

them around town. Now, yeah,

32:22

sure, Kirk.

32:22

Was in Magic City.

32:25

Ah J Mack with the news.

32:27

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping

32:30

by.

32:31

I can guarantee you one place in Atlantic Kirk

32:33

Cousins wasn't Magic City.

32:36

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33:38

So this was significant.

33:40

We've talked about this. There's this epidemic,

33:43

and I think it's mostly among men. Studies

33:46

will show you it's a man problem,

33:48

not a woman's problem. Women can admit they're

33:50

wrong, they don't double down on it. They're

33:53

not as stubborn as rigid as men

33:55

are. Women are wrong, they're like, I'm

33:57

wrong. Guys struggle

33:59

with it. They doubled down on wrong on

34:01

this show. One of our rules is it's

34:04

not about being right, it's about getting it

34:06

right. You make mistakes all

34:08

the time, information changes, sports

34:10

has upsets. Who cares about being right all

34:12

the time get it right all the time. So

34:15

the Giants appear to be the New York Giants appear

34:17

to be wanting to get

34:19

it right instead of

34:21

continuing to double down on a

34:23

bad draft pick. Daniel Jones at number

34:25

six was a huge reach. I said it

34:27

then, I believe it now. John

34:30

Mara, the owner, came out in the last

34:32

two days and said, if our GM

34:34

and our coach fall in love with the quarterback,

34:37

they can take him at number six. This

34:40

isn't anti Daniel Jones. This

34:43

isn't an agenda. He's had fifty

34:46

nine career starts. There's not a single

34:48

piece of data, not one. I feel

34:50

the same way about Justin Fields. Find

34:52

me the data. Oh,

34:55

this guy special. His passer rating

34:57

not good, touchdown to intercept

35:00

sixty two to forties, awful, doesn't

35:02

win, hurt a lot, He's a terrible

35:05

fourth quarter quarterback. He's passer rating

35:07

plummets when it matters most.

35:10

He's just not good. He loses too many

35:12

fumbles, He's hurt all the time.

35:14

He doesn't see the field. Well, it's very

35:17

Justin Field. Now Justin is more spectacular,

35:19

and that can fool people. But the

35:22

New York Giants need to

35:24

draft a quarterback outside

35:27

of Caroline. They sit at six, move

35:29

up to four in Arizona, move up a

35:31

spot. You don't have to move up far, or

35:34

you could stay there. But stop trying

35:36

to double down and convince everybody

35:39

this is a special player. There's

35:41

not a single piece of data.

35:44

After fifty nine starts,

35:46

which would lead you there not

35:49

one. Lamar Jackson started in

35:51

week eleven of his rookie year. In

35:53

about three starts in, you were like, WHOA,

35:56

that doesn't look like anybody else. Matt

35:59

Patrick Homes started one game as

36:01

rookie season end of the year. Everybody went, he

36:04

looks pretty good. Justin Hart Justin Herbert's

36:07

first start for the Chargers. Coincidentally

36:10

against mahomes first start,

36:12

You're like, oh, he's not overwhelmed at all. Daniel

36:14

Jones looks overwhelmed three out of four Sundays.

36:17

He's got fifty nine starts. Again,

36:20

Daniel Jones, justin Field, show me the data.

36:22

I'm willing to listen. There's no data. You

36:24

don't win, you're hurt, you lose fumbles, you're

36:26

bad in the fourth I gotta see something.

36:29

And so I mean, outside of Carolina,

36:34

which is maybe the least talented

36:36

professional football team I have seen

36:38

in a decade, take

36:40

Carolina off the board. There's

36:43

only two other teams in this league that feel

36:45

as hopeless. The Patriots, even

36:47

their coach yesterday said please be patient with

36:49

us. And the New York Giants stop

36:52

doumbling down, guys, It's okay to

36:55

be wrong. The best hitters in baseball

36:57

hit three to zero one. They strike out all the

36:59

time. It's okay. It's not

37:01

about being right. The drafting

37:04

quarterbacks is virtually I mean, Kyle

37:07

Shanahan can't get it right all the

37:09

time. I mean,

37:11

it took Jim Harbaugh ten years

37:13

at Michigan to finally get a great

37:16

quarterback collegiately, Jj

37:18

McCarthy. He missed on all sorts

37:20

of quarterbacks. Jim Harbaugh,

37:24

in fact, the best quarterback he's ever had was at

37:26

Stanford. He was better than Colin

37:29

Kaepernick. In the NFL. He's

37:31

had one great quarterback in his life, Andrew

37:33

Luck, and Jim Harbaugh was an NFL quarterback.

37:35

It's a very difficult position

37:37

to draft. There is no data

37:40

here that says it works.

37:42

None.

37:42

You gotta move on. So I think what

37:45

mara is saying is if my coaches

37:47

fall in love with them is

37:50

basically draft a quarterback. And

37:53

this is another thing in the NFL is

37:56

that every

37:58

ownership group is different. Some

38:01

can be really frugal Cincinnati

38:03

and historically the Chargers before the

38:05

last couple of years. Some stan

38:08

Cronkey a lot of money, stay out

38:10

of the way ideal. Some Jerry Jones

38:13

want to be the de facto general manager,

38:15

ego vanity, it's my team. Everybody's

38:18

different here. The Giants to me always

38:20

felt like they let the football guys. It

38:22

could be the late George Young, the great

38:25

general manager, it could be Jerry Reese,

38:27

it could be Parcels. They kind of let the football guys

38:29

do what the football guys do. And all of a sudden

38:31

they got kind of weird and they're all into

38:34

Daniel Jones, and it's like the coaches aren't

38:36

the gms not They're not. Come

38:38

on, these people know football. So I think

38:40

the Giants to me have felt and this I didn't

38:42

feel this my entire life. They feel

38:44

kind of dysfunctional with the owner

38:47

meddling, getting into situations that

38:49

don't work. It's time get

38:52

it right. Don't double down

38:54

on being right. He never worked

38:57

as a number six pick. It did nothing worked

39:00

interesting stuff. So the

39:02

win totals are out in the NFL according

39:04

to DraftKings, and obviously

39:06

the win totals tell you who

39:09

DraftKings thinks is going to be a playoff

39:11

team, who's going to win the division. I don't

39:13

have a ton of disagreements

39:15

about those. I think

39:18

they really like Kirk Cousins. They

39:20

really think Caleb Williams is gonna work, and

39:22

man Aaron Donald maybe

39:24

the most unique NFL defensive

39:27

player ever. Because they have downgraded

39:29

the Rams to a

39:31

non playoff team in the Weekerer NFC

39:34

with McVeigh and Matt Stafford and

39:37

a top receiving duo in twenty

39:39

twenty four, all things that matter. Offensive

39:42

coach, great quarterback, great receiving duo.

39:44

They have downgraded the Rams to a non playoff

39:47

team from last year. A playoff team that

39:49

is That is like LT. Reggie

39:52

White Aaron Donald. That is unique.

39:55

It's also possibly you're just wrong on

39:57

the fightings and Rams, you know,

40:00

not gonna be as good as you think. Is there

40:02

a team you're perhaps missing Colin

40:05

in the AFC they wear green

40:08

and white.

40:09

Come on, I'm starting to drink the kool aid. You

40:11

know, I'm on some Jets text chains with someboddies.

40:13

Oh whoo, who's on your

40:15

text chair?

40:16

Well, I can't reveal the name and information,

40:18

but longtime Jets fans, and they're starting

40:21

to turn a corner.

40:22

You know.

40:22

The quarterback has stopped running his mouth about

40:25

certain things you know that helps, that

40:27

helps you get people excited.

40:28

And you're trying to diminish sauce Gardener

40:31

yesterday. Don't think that people aren't watching.

40:33

They hear the sauce gardener's lander.

40:35

People people get they like their sauces.

40:38

Hey, what's going on with the dolphins and Tua? What's

40:40

happening over there?

40:42

No extension talk.

40:43

I wonder what's going on there?

40:47

We'll discuss well, fishy huh Nick right around

40:49

the corner, hour two of a Tuesday coming up Live

40:51

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