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HOUR 3 - Torry Holt, Rams v.s. Cardinals

Monday, 17th January 2022
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Well Tory Holt eleven years seven pro bowlers

0:26

top fifteen sixteen most receiving yards

0:28

in league history, and he's a former Ram, and tonight

0:30

the LA Rams host Arizona.

0:34

I don't know. I look at this tonight and I think

0:37

to myself, when you go into playoff games

0:39

you're at home, you think you've got the

0:41

healthier team, the better defense,

0:44

and the better coach. If I as

0:46

a player, I would

0:48

feel like if I was a Ram tonight, does

0:50

it add pressure or confidence

0:53

knowing you check more boxes tonight? I

0:57

think it's both, you know, with the Rams

0:59

got it picked themselves up off

1:02

of the letdown and the missed opportunity

1:04

last week against Sempersisco forty nine is still

1:07

up home field. They

1:09

got pushed around in that game, So the

1:12

pressure for them first and foremost, Who's

1:14

gonna show up tonight. Yes,

1:16

it's the biggest of stages, so they all

1:18

know the expectations. But now

1:20

is the time. The beauty is they got

1:22

another opportunity. Colin. This

1:25

is a good football team. Now they'll be challenged

1:27

on the back end. Obviously with the injuries is happening with

1:29

Taylor Rapping and Fuller, guys who

1:31

played extremely well for this football Team's

1:34

gonna be some challenges there. And even with the linebackers. Somebody

1:36

just got to slow down Erks. Who would that be? But

1:38

this is a talented football team at home.

1:40

They have a ton of a confidence. Even getting

1:42

pushed around by the forty nine is, it is still

1:44

a confident football team. But I want to see

1:47

how they respond from getting pushed

1:49

around by divisional team in

1:51

the forty nine is and then they played another divisional

1:53

football team tonight in there, I mean tomorrow

1:55

nine years on the Cardinals, where the Cardinals try to

1:57

mimic some of that of the sempersons,

2:00

I just don't think the Cardinals are tougher than the Rams.

2:02

You know, it's interesting. You averaged seventy seven

2:05

yards per game, which is like top ten

2:07

all time in the history of the NFL. I think it's like

2:09

seventh Cooper Cup is

2:11

getting to a point where I almost expect eighty

2:14

yards a game from Cooper Cup. Now, all

2:16

receivers are not the same summer burners,

2:19

summer route runners. When you watch

2:21

Cooper Cup, what do you see?

2:23

I mean, because Tory it's one thing

2:25

to get yards. He's open a lot

2:28

right now, we're open a lot. What

2:30

does he do that special to you? Well,

2:33

for one, he's a fantastic football

2:36

player first and foremost,

2:38

and real ball players know what I'm talking about. He

2:40

happens to play the wide receiver position. He's

2:42

very productive. He was that way when he was

2:44

in university. I mean you saw the breakdown

2:47

to him and his father just throwing the ball around

2:49

the house. So he's very comfortable around the football.

2:51

He's got natural hands, great hand eye coordinating

2:53

in as you see there to run out of the

2:55

catchability. He's six foot two, twenty ten pounds.

2:58

He's get in the red zone. He's efficiental third

3:00

downs. He can play inside

3:02

extremely well, as we always see. But he's also

3:04

a good act so good z if you if you needed

3:07

total package triple Crown winner, so

3:10

greatly deserved from the beginning of the season

3:12

to now, Cooper Cup has played MVP

3:15

football. He'll be and talked

3:17

for that as well as the offensive player the year. I don't know

3:19

if the Rams are the same football team if

3:21

they don't have Cooper Cup on the roster. He's come through

3:23

all year long for this ball club,

3:26

and I think he'll come through again on Monday night. That's

3:28

just who he is. It's the other guys

3:30

that want to have to continue to raise

3:32

their game up to the level of all Pro like Cooper

3:35

Cup for the Rams to advance. So what

3:37

did you make of the quarterback draw? Let's start

3:39

with that. What did you make of the call? I

3:42

didn't like the call at all, but I totally get

3:44

the logic of it. They just gotta be smarter than

3:46

the Cowboys all year long. Lacked in

3:48

details. I mean, you've heard it all week, weekend

3:51

and even even today Monday. Everybody's

3:53

talking about the lack of details for the Dallas

3:55

Cowboys. Nothing in regards to the talent. Again,

3:57

the lack of details here by Dak

4:00

Prescott and that football team. You gotta be aware

4:02

of situations. Get the ball to the

4:04

referee, get it spot, go down, go down first.

4:06

And footmost go down five yards earlier, get the ball

4:08

to the rep give yourself a chance to throw a

4:10

hell Mary. They were not locked in. And this

4:12

is a football team, Dallas Cowboys, most

4:15

penalized football team in the National

4:17

Football League. At some point those teams

4:19

come to hurt you. And when you're playing good teams

4:21

like the San Francisco Foot and ninus in the office

4:23

and it's want to go home, you can't get

4:26

beat. And that's exactly what happened to

4:28

the Dallas Cowboys. They beat themselves overpenalized

4:31

and did not make the place. But shouts out to

4:33

the San Francisco Foot nine, a NFC West

4:35

team collin three teams

4:37

in the NFC West ten or more wins

4:39

this season, and this NFC West,

4:42

they've all all four teams have played

4:44

in the Super Bowl in the last twenty years. This

4:46

football conference. They

4:49

know how to play when it comes to playoff

4:51

times, and they certainly know how to get to the Super Bowl.

4:53

San Francisco Footing on the shout out for them standing

4:55

up again, showing physical mentality,

4:59

taking that stun in the rule to Dallas and

5:01

getting out of the survive and then getting to win. And they will

5:03

advance. Listen, we saw three tiers

5:05

of quarterback play this weekend. We saw you

5:07

know, Mahomes, Brady's first half,

5:10

Josh Allen Burrow. That's

5:12

elite stuff, that's world class. And

5:14

then we saw guys in the middle that are certainly

5:16

capable, Dak, Jimmy g Derek

5:18

Carr, certainly capable, not

5:20

quite as special, but capable. And then we saw

5:22

let's take Ben out because he's retiring. Then we saw

5:25

Mac and Jalen. So they

5:27

weren't good enough. But to me, the question

5:30

is are they not good enough

5:32

or are they not good enough yet?

5:35

And I don't know. I look at

5:38

the AFC and I look at all these AFC

5:40

quarterbacks and Herbert and Burrow and Allen

5:42

and Mahomes and Lamar, and

5:44

I look at Mac, Jones and Tore. Part

5:47

of me is like man that ceiling,

5:49

that those guys are all not even in

5:51

their prime yet. Maybe Mahomes is

5:54

If you were Belichick, would you consider saying,

5:57

hey, listen, I've developed this kid.

6:00

Nine teams need quarterbacks. I'm seventy.

6:03

I'm gonna kick the tires on moving Mac and getting

6:05

the guy like a Kirk Cousins or a Derek Carr is that

6:07

crazy. Yes,

6:10

I'm staying with a winner the Scots, a winner college.

6:13

He's got one in college, a

6:15

phenomenal job in his in his rookie years.

6:17

So it's like any other rookie quarterback, you're gonna have your bumps

6:19

and your bruises. But his team was in the office, Um

6:23

it wasn't. Matt Jones and an entire team

6:26

Patriots and coaches a light lost that game

6:28

in Buffalo. They got everybody got everybody

6:30

got beat. They ran up against a better match

6:32

Buffalo Bills team. When a guy and Josh Allen, who's

6:35

one of the top quarterbacks, top five quarterbacks,

6:37

whatever you want to put him in the National Football League,

6:39

and he's young and he's

6:41

only going to continue to get better from from his experiences.

6:44

They were better than than the Patriots

6:46

on the other night, and Matt Jones

6:49

is fine. The experience that these

6:51

young guys garner from this from this

6:53

game, will will will

6:55

help them leaps and bounds as their career goes

6:58

forward. The trajectory for this guy's career, it's

7:00

on part because they have a solid

7:02

organization, the leadership over there in New England.

7:05

They want to win the expectation is to win.

7:07

They want guys want to be there to win,

7:09

so I would not pay it. I'll keep Mac

7:11

Jones in there, let him continue to develop

7:14

and leave this football team. He's a winner. The Pages

7:16

will continue to be in favorable

7:18

positions with the team that they have. Okay, so Jalen

7:21

Hurts, Philadelphia has got three first round

7:23

picks. Russell Wilson's not happy Aaron

7:25

could be on the market. Deshaun Watson, do

7:27

you feel the same way with Jalen Hurts,

7:29

who really struggled yesterday? There

7:32

were more opportunities for him than Mac. I

7:34

mean that Tampa Bay didn't move the ball much third

7:36

quarter. Do you feel the same way with Jalen

7:38

Hurts is unrolling it back with him? Yeah?

7:40

I do. I like the beauty of the

7:43

and I like the development

7:46

and where our young quarterbacks are going. So

7:48

no, I don't want to turn the page on Jalen Hurts,

7:50

and I still want to see more. He wants to

7:52

see more, but his attitude,

7:55

his mentality. Again, another Alabama

7:57

player quarterback who's coming from

7:59

an environ I'm in the winning understands what it

8:01

takes to win, has the right mind? Said if you

8:03

listened to him the other day in this post pressor the things that

8:05

he was saying. He's ready to get back to work

8:07

right now. I like that leadership. I

8:10

like where the Eagles and Jayala Hurts are going. Just continue

8:12

to build around and continue to ask him

8:14

to raise his game up. I think the Eagles

8:17

going with Jayla Hurts will be fine going forward.

8:19

So the favorites all won this

8:21

week except the forty nine ers, and

8:24

you know, I mean, there's a reason they're favorites. We

8:28

were talking. I don't think Cincinnati.

8:31

I feel like this has been a great season,

8:33

somewhat overachieved in their division.

8:36

And I think I don't see him going to Tennessee and

8:38

winning. I think that's a big ask. That's a big

8:40

ask. I also don't think

8:42

San Francisco can go to Green Bay.

8:45

If I said to you, I just I just think

8:48

there are things I feel and things

8:50

I don't. I think I think

8:52

the two teams. You tell me, did you ever have

8:55

a buy and did it help you?

8:57

Because I think it does. Yeah.

9:00

And for us, I remember I Bye week, my year

9:03

ninety nine, my rookie

9:05

year in nineteen ninety nine with the Saint Louis Rams.

9:08

We had a bye week and we was itching

9:11

to get out on the field. Practices

9:13

were as phenomenal. Guys

9:15

were just itching, couldn't wait to get out on the football

9:17

field, and we were able to unlease that energy.

9:19

I think we put up forty seven forty some

9:21

plus points in that game against against

9:23

the Vikings. Chris Card and Randy Monks and those

9:25

guys heck of a football team talent as

9:28

well, and that by just remember

9:30

how fresh we were. I just remember how locked

9:32

in we were. We were comfortable, we were at home, we were able to

9:34

sleep in our own beds. We were able to come to our facilities

9:37

every day and train and prepare and to get ready

9:39

for the biggest games of our lives. So,

9:42

yes, the bye weeks can help Colin.

9:44

And this is the playoffs and the beauty

9:46

of playoffs in particularly this year. This has been a

9:48

fantastic year of NFL football, one of the

9:51

best ever. And anybody

9:53

right now feels they can go anywhere

9:55

and win. And that's why I'm excited about San

9:57

Francisco and the Packers, because San

9:59

Francisco old style of football. They're

10:02

gonna run it at you, down,

10:04

up and down, and without both of the other

10:07

night, well they were still

10:09

getting out the street and Dante EVAs and those in

10:11

the Davas and those guys. So the playoffs,

10:14

anybody can go on the road and win,

10:16

and certainly with the parody that we have right now

10:18

in the office. All right, great seeing

10:20

you. By the way, Tory and his brother Terence started

10:23

the Whole Brothers Foundation the promise

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10:30

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10:32

prof Football Hall of Fame dot com slash fan

10:34

vote. It's great seeing you're we

10:36

always love you on the showman man appreciate it,

10:39

Thank you, Thank you Colin always man then appreciate

10:41

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org. Help us out. We're helping young

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Use your help and spread the word. Thanks Colin, Thank

10:57

you. Tory Holt an all time great. Yeah,

10:59

I just boy, I have a hard time thinking

11:01

Cincinnati can go on the road. I

11:05

just feel like it's baby steps. I feel the same

11:07

way in the NBA. Like this Chicago Bulls

11:09

team. They put them together, They're

11:11

gonna have a great regular season because they're trying to create

11:14

chemistry. Not a lot of stars, Act Levine, not a lot

11:16

of stars, a lot of b guys, and I think

11:18

they're gonna win a playoff series. I

11:20

don't think they could go beat to Miami. I

11:22

don't think they could beat a Milwaukee. I don't think they

11:24

could beat a Brooklyn. I'm not sure

11:27

that I think they could beat Philadelphia depending on

11:29

MBA's health. But the Chicago Bulls are

11:31

a classic. You put guys

11:33

together. You're not championship level

11:35

yet. The regular season means a lot. You

11:37

play your butt off. But if Bam

11:39

and Butler are healthy and have home court advantage

11:42

in spolstrut and you're not, you're

11:44

not gonna beat that team. But that's okay. You

11:46

are that until you're not. That's what Milwaukee was

11:48

until they got over the hunt. Yeah, that's what the Raptors.

11:51

They took Milwaukee, they got Kawhi.

11:53

Yes, this is baby steps. Yeah,

11:55

thing doesn't have to be overnight, man,

11:58

all right, Rams Tonight three

12:00

and a half point favorites over Arizona. I like

12:03

him to cover. I went four and on outcomes,

12:05

Well, we knew Kansas Sabers gonna win. I wouldn't

12:07

bet it, but Kansas City's better by the way,

12:09

you know, I got nothing against Ben. But

12:12

I'm over it like I'm over every

12:14

other game being a disaster. I love

12:16

good quarterback play. Steelers

12:18

offense is hard on You throw past the sticks

12:21

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12:23

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12:25

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12:27

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Herd Line News. Chiefs

13:38

and Bills head a first showdown in the divisional

13:40

rounds. It feels like a pre super Bowl. It's

13:43

like, I mean, it's too bad it's not in the conference

13:45

championship because that's what it feels like. Well,

13:47

yeah, it would be. It's a rematch of last year's AFC

13:49

Championship game. Chiefs one thirty eight, twenty

13:51

four and Patrick Mahomes says he knows it

13:53

will be a hard fight game. Yeah,

13:56

I mean, you expect the really good football team that's gonna

13:58

play play really hard. I mean,

14:00

we're we're expecting the fight. We're expecting the battle.

14:03

They have a great offense, great defense, great special

14:05

teams, and we played them the NFC Championship game last

14:07

year and we know that. Uh, it's

14:09

gonna be another another fight for us if we want to try

14:11

to move on to DAYFC Jamionship game this year. By

14:13

the way, the Bills now are Did you notice against

14:16

New England Buffalo ran the ball.

14:18

They were like committed to running the

14:20

ball. Yeah, finally, And we've been saying this single

14:23

Chary and Moss are good backs. They have very

14:25

capable backs, and

14:27

that Patriots defense is good. So

14:29

sometimes you just have to commit to it and commit to it early.

14:32

I was very confused by the Cowboys didn't do

14:34

that yesterday. You know, you need to run the

14:36

ball in order to win, commit to it early. Alan

14:39

and Mahomes both through for five touchdowns in their

14:41

wild card games this weekend. Obviously,

14:44

the Steelers, we just talked about them not really a great team.

14:46

I would say that's a little more impressive from Josh

14:49

Allen because the Patriots are a better

14:51

team in the Steelers. I don't know, so really impressive

14:53

about them. What's the line on this about the

14:55

field goal? I would think Kansas Taesday is kindly favored

14:57

by two according to Fox bet boy,

15:01

oh boy, I don't know. I

15:04

don't know. The Bills

15:06

were unbelievable. They had no turnovers and they never faced

15:08

the fourth down. The thing about the Bills

15:10

is, and they have a history of doing this the

15:12

last two years. Boom boom. Well

15:15

yeah, I mean that's this is. You don't

15:17

get that challen, you don't get back at Josh

15:19

Allen, or you can get the Josh Allen the saw during

15:23

the end of the season in the regular season. You

15:25

can get the worst Josh Allen ever, or you can get

15:27

whatever that was against the Patriot. Every

15:30

single line I've seen so far, here's

15:32

what worries me. I like the favorites in

15:34

all of them, and I never do. I

15:36

like the favorites in every game next weekend,

15:38

So sometime's gotta change. I gotta sit

15:40

here and wait, and I do think this is gonna be a great

15:42

game, though. I think I think the Bills are a little bit better than

15:45

last year. Again, depending on what

15:47

version of Josh Allen you get. That's that's

15:49

the way the Bills are going to go now. I said

15:51

it was my last Blazing five, but I was two

15:53

and two the America maybe

15:55

yearning for one more blazing five. Well,

15:58

the Seahawks season ended in a very

16:00

disappointing way, and there was immediately talk about

16:02

the feature of Russell Wilson. What's gonna happen with Pete

16:04

Carroll and John Schneider. Well, according

16:06

to sources closest to Russ, he

16:09

has now said he wants to explore his options

16:12

out there for him. There's been no head

16:14

coaching changes or GM changes of yet.

16:17

And according to ESPN's Chris Mortenson,

16:19

Pete Carroll and John Schneider will be back next season

16:21

with the Seahawks. Okay, so it's funny

16:24

how he said that after that came out. Okay,

16:26

they met on Thursday with the owner, Jody

16:28

Allen, and it just reported that all systems

16:31

are go for them to remain with the

16:33

team. Who's at Pete Carroll and Johnson? Yes.

16:35

He also added that the team

16:37

expects Russell Wilson to be back since he has two years

16:39

left on his contract. He has a

16:41

four year, one hundred and forty million dollar deal

16:43

that he signed an extension that he signed in twenty nineteen.

16:47

This offseason is going to be like,

16:50

we have a lot of coaching hires that need to

16:52

be filled, but Russ could

16:54

possibly be on the market now. Derek

16:56

Carr if things don't go the way that he wants with

16:59

Visacchia in Las Vegas.

17:01

I still maintain there's a possibility Aaron

17:04

Rodgers leaves Green Bay, Jimmy

17:06

Garoppolo is gonna get traded. Like

17:08

there's gonna be some major movement. The league is going

17:10

to look I think drastically different next year

17:13

one obviously, with all the coaching hires that have to be

17:15

made, what assistance move where If someone

17:17

like the Buffalo loses their offensive

17:19

coordinator, are they the same team next year? Dable's

17:23

gonna get one of those jobs. I remember we thought he was going

17:25

to get one last year, so he was

17:27

like a favorite to get the Charger job. We've

17:29

seen this with teams before. They lose a coordinator and

17:32

the team doesn't look doesn't look quite

17:34

the same, or they have a down year they have to adjust

17:36

to a new system. I'm not

17:38

I wouldn't not be surprised if for Us is not there

17:40

next year, just

17:43

because this came out, Like I do

17:45

think it's a little bit It was a down year, and you should

17:47

be allowed to have a down year, But

17:50

this situation feels a little bit like it's

17:53

starting to get a little too much friction

17:55

and maybe it's just coming to an end. And also

17:58

you're getting a lot of stuff played through the media,

18:01

which generally means the communication lines are

18:03

not good. That's because if we are if we're hearing

18:05

this pretty consistently and murmurs

18:07

all the time, that means that they are not on the

18:09

same page, because why would that be coming out, That's

18:12

right. So when I see a lot of stuff

18:14

coming out to the media, people are trying

18:16

to get their side of the story out instead

18:19

of talking to each other. Exactly

18:21

problem. So the Cowboys lost in the nine Ers

18:23

twenty three seventeen following a chaotic

18:26

ending to the game, and Jerry

18:28

Jones shared his views after

18:30

the loss. Very

18:32

disappointed. I'm

18:36

disappointed for our fans.

18:40

They deserved us

18:43

to win this game tonight, and they deserved

18:45

us to go farther. So it's quite

18:48

a letdown, quite a letdown. When you

18:50

get this combination of players together,

18:52

you need to have success

18:55

because we all know how it goes in the

18:57

NFL. The whole thing is set up to

18:59

take away from the best and add

19:01

to the ones that need improvement. When

19:03

was the last time you were this disappointed after a loss? I

19:06

can't remember. He

19:09

didn't discuss the future of Mike McCarthy

19:11

refrained from commenting on it. I would have

19:14

to move off, Mike McCarthy. I've seen too

19:16

much. I've seen a year and a half a chaos. I can't do it.

19:18

I can't do more, can't Dan Quinn,

19:20

Kellen Moore, I can't do it. I can't do more

19:22

of this penalty clogged

19:25

clock management, incompetent nonsense.

19:27

Yeah, I mean we've we've discussed all the different reasons

19:30

why these coaching openings are

19:32

are there. I don't think every situation

19:35

is the same, different coach and this would be

19:37

a clock management emergency.

19:40

Well, it's you can't. You have to be good.

19:42

If you're a good team, you're good at situational

19:45

football. Because in the playoffs,

19:47

everybody's good. That's why you have upsets.

19:50

Everyone everyone is in the playoffs for a

19:52

reason. They're talented, and

19:54

sometimes it comes down to situations and

19:57

that's on your leaders in Doc

19:59

Press Scott and your stars to make big plays, and

20:02

on the coaches to make sure that everyone is prepared

20:04

and knows what they're going to do. So your point, the fake

20:06

punt, it was like what it

20:08

was utter chaos. Like it was

20:11

chaos. It was like the sprinklers

20:13

that just come on at the wedding. Why is

20:15

it? Why is this happening? How are you not prepared

20:18

for what's coming? After you do that, you

20:20

get a delay of game. And it's funny because Kyle Shanahan's

20:23

very much mcveigh's a lot of

20:25

energy on the sideline. He's talking the players, Kyle

20:27

Shanahan, and there was never a moment he's

20:29

in his call sheet, he's not into

20:31

I mean, like San Francisco sideline is under

20:34

total control the entire game. They've

20:37

prepped, they've planned. Now, Jimmy

20:39

G not letting Trent Williams getting set

20:41

is outrageously, but you

20:44

can only coach so far, like like that's a player

20:47

mistake. If the Niners lose, I

20:51

felt, and I am a supporter

20:53

of Jimmy G. Between the pick and

20:55

the fourth and inches, I would have blamed

20:58

Jimmy G. I thought the coaches for the Sanders forty

21:00

nine ers because I agreed with the field goals.

21:03

There are only one fourth down where they

21:05

punted. Why I didn't like it at all. Outside of

21:07

that, I would have taken the point. No, it would have felt like Jimmy

21:10

g let them back up. Absolutely, I would ye

21:13

that they were able to climb back in the game at all if

21:15

they even had a chance. The eleven straight playoff

21:17

appearances without reaching the conference championship,

21:19

that's the longest streak in NFL history. They

21:22

scored seventeen points and had fourteen penalties.

21:24

That's the most penalized. They were also the most penalized teams

21:26

during the regular season and

21:28

tied for the most penalties by any team in a playoff

21:30

game. They're completely undisciplined, and

21:33

to Jerry's point, you can't put together

21:35

a collection of players like this. You cannot

21:38

have the season that you have, but cannot consistently

21:40

win this division. Paydak Paize,

21:43

I don't pay all your stars. Don't be

21:45

surprised if Zeke is gone. I talked

21:47

to Matt Moseley yesterday. They got to make

21:49

some decisions here because they're Panamari and

21:51

Tyrone Smith and Jack Martin and Dak

21:53

Prescott. Now they don't have to pay Mica

21:56

or tray Von Diggs. They're gonna

21:58

have to meet Tony Pollard. Now. My guess

22:00

is next year is their number one back. I think they'll move

22:02

off seek I really do well, they have to make some

22:04

changes. I genuinely did feel

22:07

bad for Cowboys fans yesterday.

22:09

It was pretty tough, Like there were people crying in the stands.

22:11

Yeah, I mean it's we tend to overlook

22:14

the fans when we're talking about this because you know, it's the Cowboys

22:16

and yeah whatever, but it hurts. It's no

22:18

fun, Yo, it sucks. And when

22:20

you have all these expectations, which I think this year for the Cowboys

22:23

was fair Like we talk about the Cowboys being overrated

22:25

sometimes like this year, it really felt like they

22:28

should have had high expectations for this team. So

22:30

it was really disappointing. I do think it's going to look different

22:32

next year. Joy with the news.

22:35

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping

22:37

by the herd line and enjoy

22:39

my witness. I'm not a fire of the coach guy.

22:42

I always are on the side to give the coach another

22:44

year. I'd move off McCarthy. I just make

22:46

him an advisor. I'd pay him hover

22:48

over it special assistant to the owner.

22:51

I'd move Dan quinnan or Kellen Moore.

22:53

I I gotta do something like I just can't bring this

22:55

thing back. Be sure to

22:57

catch live editions of The Herd week Days

22:59

and Unister nine Pacific. Well,

23:02

it was the NFL's wild

23:05

Card weekend. Most of your

23:07

favorites one many of them

23:09

won in blowout fashion. So we

23:11

thought in our three word game this

23:13

week, one of our last of the

23:15

year, we would use three words

23:18

to describe both teams

23:20

in the game, not just the game itself. So let's

23:22

start with the Raiders.

23:25

Three words. Crazy car

23:28

Ride haven't won a

23:30

playoff game in nineteen years,

23:32

but they are the first team to make the playoffs

23:35

after a midseason coaching

23:37

change since nineteen

23:40

sixty one. And in the end, Derek

23:43

Carr led a chaotic

23:46

franchise to a playoff

23:49

berth. Yes, he had that interception,

23:51

they're in the red zone, fourth and goal

23:54

from the Bengals nine. But it

23:56

was a great ride. And I think if you're a Raider fan,

23:58

you just cross your fingers. You can

24:01

keep it going and kind of fasten up and

24:03

button up the culture. Bengals

24:06

just trust Joe. Over

24:08

his last three games, not only is borrow

24:10

three and oh, but he's completed seventy six

24:13

and a half percent of his throws. They

24:15

scored on each of their first five possessions.

24:19

He's got just enough mobility, just

24:21

a good enough arm and a ton of

24:23

it. It does help.

24:25

Jamar Chase had

24:28

one hundred and sixteen oh his two hundred and forty

24:30

four yards. He had a big throw up the

24:33

right sideline on a third and long

24:36

midway through the fourth and it's kind

24:38

of a forgettable moment. But boy, when

24:40

he gets in crisis, he is going to Jamar

24:43

Chase and I hope you got him doubled because

24:45

you're not gonna You're gonna not gonna stop that kid.

24:47

Man on man coverage, New England,

24:50

Mac and Freeze. Last

24:53

five games, Mac Jones

24:55

eight touchdowns, seven picks. Did

24:58

the league figure him out well?

25:00

The weather got worse and they played better

25:02

defenses Miami and

25:04

Buffalo. He also trailed

25:07

in games late in the year. That's

25:09

a much tougher pivot for a rookie

25:11

quarterback. It's one thing. They

25:13

had a long stretch where he was pretty good with a lead

25:16

in the middle of the season. End of the year he was

25:18

trailing really good teams and playing better

25:20

defenses. And I mean that.

25:22

And it was the most points allowed by Belichick forty

25:25

seven in his NFL

25:27

career Buffalo. How

25:29

about Buffalo, whoa first

25:32

team in the Super Bowl era to

25:34

score on their first seven possessions.

25:37

Even when the Patriots seemed

25:39

to have Josh Allen bottled up,

25:41

it didn't matter. He was twenty

25:44

of twenty five and inclement weather.

25:46

I mean, just and it looks so easy.

25:50

Do you know that Josh Allen has had twenty

25:53

straight possessions against New England

25:56

without a punt. Yeah,

26:00

yeah, he's good. Philadelphia

26:04

a serious

26:06

decision, Nick Sirianni, what

26:08

do you do? Had the lowest

26:11

completion percentage of any quarterback in the playoffs,

26:13

lowest passer rating, And

26:16

I think probably more disturbing is Philly

26:18

was oh and seven against playoff teams. So

26:21

you could take this game and say and

26:23

frame it however you want to frame it. But they didn't

26:25

beat a good team this year, and even

26:27

Dallas had their way with him. So

26:30

you kind of you got you gotta, you gotta kick the

26:32

tires on the market. You

26:34

know, let's be honest, there's somebody's

26:37

going to give multiple good

26:39

first round pick. Giants have two great

26:41

first round picks, Philly has three, none of them

26:43

top ten. So Tampa

26:47

Bay ahoy me

26:49

Brady. Do

26:51

you know Tom Brady has won seventeen

26:54

of his last twenty

26:56

playoff games. Not insane

27:00

his thirty fifth playoff win. I thought

27:02

in the first half he was great. Also,

27:05

I think Tampa coach two different games. I think

27:07

in the first half they were super aggressive,

27:09

and then they got a lead and they didn't have

27:11

Fournett and Ronald Jones, and they're

27:14

not going to be as good running the ball without Fournett

27:16

and Ronald Jones. Plus trust and Worfs got hurt.

27:19

Jet was Jensen, the center got hurt.

27:21

So they they're not a great killing

27:24

the clock team when they're missing their two best

27:26

offensive linemen arguably and their

27:28

two best running backs. That's why they were clunky in

27:30

the third quarter. But in the first half, when they

27:32

were hyper aggressive, they looked real

27:34

good. San Francisco dominated

27:37

with Debo Deebo Samuel

27:40

seventy two yards rushing rushing touchdown

27:43

in the Super Bowl era, most rushing yards

27:46

by a wide receiver. I think he's my favorite

27:48

non quarterback in the league. I

27:51

mean, he can do anything. He can do. He's

27:53

great after the catch, great hands, he can

27:55

block, you can use him in the backfield.

27:58

It's just not They're there's just not

28:00

a lot of Deebo Samuel's out there. He's got pull away

28:02

speed, he's clever, he

28:04

could put his head down and run over linebackers

28:08

Dallas. What

28:11

was dak fourteen

28:14

penalties, fifty three percent completion

28:17

percentage. I didn't think he played particularly well,

28:19

but I think we've got a book on Dak.

28:22

He needs rushing help. He didn't get it. So

28:25

they're gonna have to kind of address outside

28:27

of Zach Martin addressed their offensive line,

28:29

I think they have to address Zeke Elliott,

28:32

Tony Pollard. I wouldn't get rid of Zeke.

28:34

I would consider it. But

28:37

there we have. We

28:39

have a pretty clear indication of what deck is

28:41

when you get in rushing yards and supports a good

28:44

quarterback. When you don't and you have him to carry

28:46

it, he's gonna struggle, by the way, Mike McCarthy

28:50

eighteen and sixteen with this roster

28:53

since he arrived finally Pittsburgh,

28:56

one last bender. Well,

29:01

he finishes third most passing yards

29:03

behind Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Ever in the playoffs,

29:06

that was the largest playoff loss of his career,

29:09

and it was Listen, I guess here's

29:11

the positive way to look at it. He

29:14

got to the playoffs in a good division, in

29:16

a really good division, so probably second

29:18

third best division in football. He got him into the playoffs,

29:21

and he had four or five six really good

29:23

games. There was a moment early in this season,

29:25

but old quarterbacks can struggle down the stretch

29:28

and they need to throw the ball. Get a little more active,

29:30

throw the ball down the field. I love their receiving

29:33

corps. I think their receiving corps is fantastic.

29:36

And whoever get it's got to be attractive

29:38

to the Errands and the Russells. They got three dudes

29:41

who can play. Kansas

29:43

City read and weep

29:47

mahomes playoff career at home,

29:50

twenty touchdowns and one

29:52

pick six and one started

29:57

slow, finished

29:59

strong, and they are favored

30:02

by a couple of points against

30:04

the Bills. It just

30:07

they are. It's one of those

30:09

teams, not many of these teams. Buffalo's one

30:11

in Kansas City's one. They could fall behind seventeen

30:14

note in the playoff game and you'd be like, oh, I'm good

30:16

with it. I do think what's interesting though, over

30:18

the weekend, if I had one big

30:21

takeaway, Buffalo finally

30:24

committed to the run, and it

30:26

was like against the good run defense, not a great

30:28

run defense, New England's okay, but

30:30

singletary Josh Allen Moss. It was

30:33

like run the ball. If you don't get

30:35

into a firework show and a track meet with

30:37

Mahomes, good luck winning arrowhead, slow

30:40

it down, run the ball. Then

30:42

you got a shot for Joy and Ryan.

30:44

Great stuff today. We'll see you tomorrow. Speak

30:46

for yourself is right around

30:48

the corner. Fun today. Tory Holt stopped

30:50

by. That was great. We'll

30:53

see you tomorrow. It's the herd.

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