0:01

I was behind the

0:03

scenes. I was working as a

0:05

producer on the CBS Talks to the

0:07

Doctors before I got involved with the

0:09

documentary, Vaxed. And then the success of

0:11

that ended up throwing me into

0:13

the limelight, where I was in front of

0:15

the cameras really for the first time, at

0:18

least since I was a kid and doing some acting

0:20

as a kid. And then one

0:22

day someone, you know, I was

0:25

on someone else's podcast in Hollywood

0:28

and the owner of the podcast studio walked up to

0:30

me and said, you know what, you should do

0:32

your own podcast, Del. I think it'd be great.

0:34

He literally didn't let me out. I was like,

0:36

oh, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Tony, you

0:38

know, thank you for that recommendation. But

0:40

he said, no, no, I want you to grab a slot.

0:42

I'm going to make it really affordable for you. I'll handle

0:44

most of the cost. You should try

0:46

this out. The Highwater is born that week.

0:48

I pointed at Thursday at 11 o'clock and

0:52

the rest, as they say, is history. It's

0:54

wild the things that throw us in the

0:56

limelight and change our lives

0:59

forever. Usually when I talk

1:01

to people, those life changing moments

1:03

happen because suddenly you just

1:05

state I've had enough and

1:08

I'm going to tell the truth. I'm going to

1:10

tell the truth as I see it. I'm done

1:12

playing games. And though some doors do get closed,

1:15

even bigger ones open up. That's

1:17

the story of Shannon Joy. What

1:19

threw her into the limelight was

1:22

just a little incident at a

1:24

school born hearing that a lot of

1:26

people in the news want to talk about. Take a look at this. A

1:29

local radio host is speaking out about

1:31

an alleged incident. Let's get to issue

1:34

two arrested for telling the

1:36

truth. Governor DeSantis, I was arrested

1:38

at a school board meeting for my mask

1:40

slipping beneath my nose. You show up at

1:42

the meeting and you're there doing your part

1:44

as a mom listening. And

1:46

let's just show we're going to show the

1:48

first video where someone's irritated that the

1:51

mask is not that

1:54

they can see nostril. I guess I

1:56

don't watch watch and listen. Why?

2:02

Because when you

2:04

go to the office, you think, hey, Mary, we

2:06

have places to be, Mary, okay, and other things

2:08

to do. You can't just stop meeting. Can

2:11

I get a second for that question? This

2:14

is unbelievable. This is

2:17

not leadership. You asked us

2:19

to be respectful of you,

2:21

and you can't respect the taxpayers and citizens. Mary,

2:26

can you give us a email? Mary's

2:29

getting the right emails. This

2:32

is silly. You

2:36

could have prevented it by being a grown-up man.

2:38

I've got my mask on. It's 95 degrees out.

2:43

When they called the recess, I

2:45

got this sinking feeling that they

2:48

were going to arrest. They wanted to

2:50

make an example out of me so that

2:52

other parents would never stand up and speak

2:54

out. On that day,

2:56

I was arrested, and I was

2:58

charged with trespass. Today, we are

3:01

going into court, and I will

3:03

either be arraigned. If

3:06

so, I will be not guilty,

3:09

or the case will be thrown

3:11

out. And I think either way, coming out of

3:13

this courtroom will be a win, because

3:16

we will continue to fight

3:18

for the voices of parents. Hi,

3:21

Miss John. It's

3:23

so much the DA's office. Thank you.

3:27

This is from Miss Charis, who's from the

3:29

Free Speech. This has been happening

3:31

all over the country, and I hope that

3:33

this serves as a signal who

3:36

seeks to bully parents in the future and suppress

3:39

their right to free speech on behalf of their

3:41

children. Thanks, Arcon. Thank

3:44

you so much. Obviously,

3:48

one of our favorite things to do on

3:50

the highway is celebrate those people that step

3:52

up into truth standing for medical freedom,

3:54

no matter what. It's my honor and pleasure

3:57

to be joined right now by podcast. sensation

4:00

Shannon Joy. Thank you so

4:02

much, Dal. I'm so glad to be here. It's really

4:04

good to have you here and I remember when

4:07

all this was breaking in the news but just

4:09

to sort of give me a recap what was

4:11

the I mean there was a lot of school

4:13

board hearings that have happened but what was this

4:16

one specifically about? Well

4:18

we had been advocating and activating in

4:20

New York for 12 months. As you

4:24

know New York was one of the worst

4:26

lockdown states in the world and

4:29

so it was a major effort

4:31

an enormous amount of community organization

4:33

and work to get the

4:36

schools open even part-time and

4:39

so when we got them open part-time it

4:41

was another heavy lift to get

4:43

them open five days full day and

4:46

so that took the building of organizations

4:48

across Monroe County which is the county

4:50

that I lived in and

4:52

in my own local school district so we

4:54

had built email lists of over a thousand

4:56

parents we were bringing 50 to

4:59

100 parents to school board meetings

5:01

every week and the last

5:03

step was to get those masks

5:06

off the children's faces. So you

5:08

had them in school at this point. Obviously

5:11

everyone's on a first-name basis. Mary,

5:13

come on! We all know each

5:16

other. And that's what's so weird

5:18

about these is that it's actually

5:20

just another parent right? It's got

5:23

on the school board and they're just asserting

5:25

this authority. I know you just watched our

5:27

previous segments you know in Scotland but

5:29

it's really not that much better here if

5:32

you can sit in a school board meeting

5:34

talk about masks and then

5:36

some parent can just say call

5:38

the police I want them arrested. We actually have the footage

5:41

that you shot while you're being arrested. Take a look

5:43

at this. We

5:45

all came here to hear public comment.

5:48

The school board staffed the meeting. They

5:50

limited it to ten individuals and they

5:52

stacked it with pro-mask individuals so they

5:55

kicked out all of us who were

5:57

anti-mask and here come the cops. And

6:00

so I'm just going to ask, hi, hi,

6:02

how are you? My name is

6:05

Shannon. Nice to meet you. Thank you for coming on. I know

6:07

you don't want to be here today. So

6:09

there are about 20, um, pro masters here

6:11

who are applauding the cops here, who

6:13

are now going to, I suppose, arrest us

6:15

for. Okay.

6:19

So, so they have their hands on

6:21

me now. And

6:24

I guess this is the way it is now. I

6:26

can't believe this is happening. Guys,

6:29

these are the officers. Okay.

6:31

Um, Monroe County Sheriff. And

6:34

I can't believe this is happening. I really, there, oh,

6:36

no. There's a new trainer back on the phone. We'll

6:39

get it. My phone. I should be ashamed of

6:41

your phone. I can't. So

6:43

what is my crime? What is my crime? Unbelievable.

6:51

Unbelievable. There's

6:57

a lot about that. That's amazing. And I don't think,

6:59

uh, you know, I've done some reporting. It's actually hard

7:01

to sort of stand up and go in. I know

7:03

people think I do that all the time, but you

7:06

know, it's very rare that I would

7:09

sort of stand confront police certainly, but

7:11

you're, what I think makes that really

7:13

unique is you're surrounded by all of

7:15

these peers, people, you know, parents that

7:18

are applauding you being arrested as

7:21

you're being dragged out. I mean, it's those things that,

7:23

I mean, I'm sorry, I know we get in trouble

7:25

when we do it, but it just,

7:27

I reflect on Nazi Germany, right? I

7:29

reflect on being turned in by our

7:31

neighbors for what? For a product that

7:33

you and I knew then, no, now

7:35

all science backs us up. Doesn't

7:38

even do the job that it said to do.

7:40

This was just straight up a

7:42

compliance test. What did

7:44

it feel like in that moment though? Was it,

7:47

was there, what inspired

7:49

you? Did you go there thinking this was

7:51

going to happen? Like how do you prepare

7:54

to stand your ground in that moment

7:56

the way you did? It's interesting

7:58

you asked that question because. the

8:01

meeting before that, right? Like

8:04

where did I find that in

8:06

me to confront law

8:09

enforcement? The

8:11

meeting before that one, there

8:14

was a bus driver that spoke up

8:16

and we were bringing, as I mentioned

8:18

to you, 50 to 100 people to

8:20

every meeting. We were gaining a lot

8:22

of ground. It

8:25

was in the summer. The

8:27

school bus driver stood up and

8:29

spoke for about five minutes, weeping

8:32

to the school board and to

8:34

the entire community. And it was online as

8:36

well. And said, you know,

8:39

talked about a story of a young

8:41

five-year-old girl on a hot summer day

8:43

driving home on the bus and wearing

8:45

her mask. And this little girl was

8:47

not feeling well. And

8:51

it was hot. And she vomited

8:53

in her mask on the

8:55

bus. And the bus driver told her, you can

8:57

take your mask off. You can take your mask off.

9:00

And that little five-year-old girl was so terrified

9:02

to take her mask off

9:04

that she sat for 20 minutes on that

9:07

bus in a mask full of

9:09

vomit before she would take it off. And

9:11

that was the meeting before the meeting that I was

9:13

arrested at. We were that, I

9:15

mean, there was not a dry eye in

9:18

that room. The board knew that what they

9:20

were doing to the children was wrong. They

9:23

knew that it was harming children. And I

9:26

think that's why they laid that trap for

9:28

me at that time. That's why they didn't

9:30

want any more public comment. They wanted to

9:32

make a mockery of what

9:34

we were doing. And they wanted to teach other

9:36

parents that lesson. If you stand up and speak

9:38

out, this is what we're going to do to

9:40

you. And so when I

9:42

decided to FaceTime live my arrest, I was

9:44

taking back that power. I know they wanted

9:47

to tell that story. They had

9:49

news out there ready to go to

9:51

tell the story of my embarrassment and

9:53

being arrested and handcuffed. And

9:55

I decided in that moment, if this is

9:57

going to happen, I'm going to

9:59

take back this power for parents and I'm going to

10:01

tell the story in my way and that's why I

10:04

did the FaceTime Live. And,

10:08

but it was for the kids. It's always been for the kids.

10:11

My kids too. How many people were

10:13

in support? I mean somebody else obviously started finding

10:15

a camera and they took yours away. So how

10:17

many people were there sort of in that sort

10:19

of support group? So it was slightly

10:21

misleading because the camera that picked up

10:23

the applause was

10:26

right by a group of people who

10:28

were brought to that meeting for the

10:30

express purpose of hackling and

10:32

they had been regulars at the meetings before.

10:35

The majority of the room was

10:37

utterly silent and appalled. There were

10:39

some loud mouths that were brought

10:41

in, right, that were rabid

10:44

pro-maskers and pro-lockdowners and pro-vaxxers and we

10:46

know all of those people and that

10:49

you know that was their

10:51

role. And so unfortunately in the

10:53

video it sounds like the whole room was clapping

10:55

but it was not like that at all. In

10:57

fact, when people stood up after and comment, people

11:01

were very, very concerned about

11:03

what had happened and ultimately

11:06

as you can see I was

11:08

vindicated. Parents were vindicated. The

11:10

court case was thrown out and

11:15

you know it was one step in

11:17

the right direction but New York State is the belly

11:19

of the beast for a lot of these things. So

11:22

let's get into that a little bit because

11:24

I think one of the things people think,

11:26

well, you stood up, you

11:29

had that moment, it's sort of

11:31

launched you into probably a new

11:33

career that you hadn't seen coming,

11:35

lots of people tuning into your

11:37

perspective. But what's

11:40

it like? You still have children in school, right?

11:42

You still have to go back to school board

11:44

meetings. You're still standing

11:47

side by side with the people that had

11:49

you arrested, those that were clapping while you

11:51

were arrested. What

11:53

are those relationships like now? How do

11:56

you handle those people now when you're

11:59

arrested? run into them and

12:01

is anyone apologizing? So

12:04

I've never received an apology. The

12:07

judge did throw the case out,

12:09

so that was vindication. It's really

12:11

interesting. I mean, it goes to

12:14

show how evil and wrong the

12:17

COVID era lockdowns and policies

12:19

were and how it

12:21

divided families, it divided communities,

12:24

it divided friends. And

12:29

that's what happened in our community. The

12:31

stand that I was taking, let me tell

12:33

you, I raged against lockdowns from the very

12:35

beginning. I had a platform. I was on

12:37

AM talk radio at the time. So

12:39

I was well known in my community. And

12:43

everything about it, just my spirit

12:45

just raged against it because I

12:47

knew that this was wrong. And

12:52

what's so interesting is that my kids are

12:54

still in the same school district. They have

12:56

amazing teachers in the school district. I'll have

12:58

sentries come up to me or teachers when

13:00

I call into the school and administration, Shannon,

13:02

we've got your back. We're so thankful for

13:04

the things that you've done. The

13:07

administrators are bad. They

13:11

put these policies in place and they did

13:13

so recklessly when they didn't have to. But

13:17

I even see the superintendent at games

13:19

and I'm like, hey, Brad, how are

13:21

you? And

13:23

the kids are resilient. My kids were

13:25

in high school. They were mortified when

13:28

it happened. But

13:30

they have become resilient as

13:33

a result of this. And I

13:35

said to them the day after, I'm like, sorry, mom, we got arrested

13:37

at the school board. I'm

13:39

like, I promise one day you'll laugh at this. We'll

13:42

laugh about this. And today we laugh about it all the time.

13:45

So I want this, part

13:47

of me does this because I want other parents

13:50

to see you can stand up at

13:52

school board meetings. And yeah, there

13:54

are consequences. You might lose some friendships. You

13:57

might get some funny looks. You might even be arrested at a

13:59

school board meeting. meeting, but

14:01

you'll be OK. And if

14:03

parents did this and if

14:05

citizens in the US did this all

14:07

over the country, from the local level,

14:09

when bad things are happening, when our

14:11

federal government or the World Health Organization

14:13

or any big governing body comes in

14:15

and tries to do things that

14:18

our spirit rages against or our

14:20

Constitution, the founding of our country,

14:23

it is our job to stand up and

14:25

to speak out and to try to stop

14:27

that in our community. And if even 10%

14:30

of the communities did that, this country

14:32

would turn around. I fully believe that.

14:34

I totally agree with you. And I think that

14:36

I say a lot of times when I'm out speaking

14:38

live, people will come up, I'm praying for

14:41

you, thank you for your sacrifice, and as

14:43

though I'm on some sort of pedestal. And

14:45

I just say, will you please take me off the

14:47

pedestal and just realize I'm standing with you and I

14:50

need you to do the same thing? Everyone

14:52

needs to speak out. If you're just thinking, wow,

14:54

go get them, Del. What am I going to

14:56

do? What am I going to

14:58

do by myself? I said before, if I'm the only

15:01

one standing on this stage, then nothing is going to

15:03

change. We've got to start building

15:05

a body of humanity, especially

15:07

in this country, especially in the United

15:09

States of America that's founded on this

15:11

principle of being able to speak freely

15:15

and the ability to, I mean, look at

15:17

how attached our founding fathers were to those

15:19

things. You need to be able to say

15:21

whatever you think about the government. You need

15:24

to be all assembled and have those statements

15:26

and have those conversations with each other freely

15:28

without being shut down. You need to have

15:30

a press that can say whatever it wants,

15:32

whenever it wants, and distribute that

15:34

information wrong or right

15:36

to whoever wants to read it.

15:39

I mean, this is literally the

15:41

very first amendment of the United

15:43

States of America, really basic stuff.

15:46

And yet, I would say almost

15:48

every topic we've covered here today shows

15:51

that that very way of life

15:53

is completely under assault. Now, I

15:55

know because of this moment, you

15:58

had a background in. Media you

16:00

two have found the internet you've got

16:03

a show you're you know Interviewing

16:05

all sorts of experts and specialists

16:08

when you look at sort of the things that I was talking

16:10

about today when we look at We got we're on I

16:13

would think I mean we just reported that

16:15

we're about to you know Go ahead and

16:17

push NATO into Ukraine Which

16:19

has been known as the trigger for a potential

16:21

third war since like I was a kid third

16:23

world war We got that on

16:25

the precipice. We have this transgender issue That

16:28

is is happening schools. It looks like

16:31

that maybe shifting and some awareness coming

16:33

around this AI thing Pfizer courts censorship

16:36

the ability to you know to Break

16:40

down our door and arrest us of

16:42

those things. You know as a mother as a parent

16:44

is there one that sort of stands out as the

16:47

Probably most existential threat. I know

16:49

I was pretty heavy on AI.

16:51

I felt like yeah everything. I'm

16:53

doing what difference does medical freedom

16:56

make if Computers

16:59

are now the authorities of the world that

17:01

I live in but what do you think

17:03

stands out? I think AI

17:05

is obviously Concerning the threat

17:07

of World War three and nuclear

17:09

war is concerning the collapse of

17:12

our economy is concerning medical freedom

17:14

the idea that We

17:17

still haven't even had a reckoning Regarding

17:19

what happened in 2020 or 2021? It's

17:23

the ultimate gaslight that we're in

17:25

an election year and both major

17:27

political parties won't even touch it

17:30

Which is is you know? Insult

17:33

upon injury. Yeah, so

17:35

I think all right there. I mean that's

17:37

so fascinating because you're right We

17:39

haven't had a reckoning. No, we haven't had

17:41

a like come to Jesus moment Can we

17:44

all admit wrong or right what happened here?

17:46

We had we were told we needed to

17:48

lock down Now we were

17:50

told that the virus I mean the biggest one

17:52

to me the virus only had a death rate

17:55

of point three five percent Which puts it right

17:57

smack in it. You know a bad flu season

18:00

So can we all just at least

18:02

at the very least say this is

18:04

a massive overreaction? Yes. Yes, elderly took

18:06

that number in much higher numbers. And

18:09

maybe we could have handled that

18:11

better, but then your top liberals

18:13

in states across America like Cuomo

18:15

literally made it illegal to protect, you

18:18

know, retirement communities,

18:20

where he forced people that were

18:22

sick to be allowed into those

18:24

communities. So that didn't like it.

18:27

Where is this reckoning and how are we going to

18:30

reunite our communities under these circumstances?

18:33

Well, I think, you know, what

18:35

I'm really advocating for my audience,

18:37

my mission over the next seven

18:39

months, I see the medical freedom

18:41

community so that you are a

18:43

part of, right? Brownstone Institute and

18:45

Children's Health Defense and ICANN and

18:47

all of these people who saw

18:49

COVID for what it was early

18:51

and stood up against it. This

18:55

is a large community. It's a

18:57

very diverse community, Republican, Democrat, old,

19:00

young, every socioeconomic

19:02

genre you can imagine. And

19:05

political years always have a

19:08

way of absolutely obliterating liberty

19:10

movements. It's not just in the

19:12

US as well. In Canada, the

19:14

Netherlands, in Japan, they just had

19:16

150,000 people turn

19:19

out in opposition to the

19:21

World Health Organization amendments that are going to

19:23

be voted on in May. You

19:26

have rolling protests throughout Europe

19:28

and the Netherlands. And

19:30

so there is enough

19:32

of humanity awake right now, but

19:34

we have to push through this

19:36

election season here in the US

19:38

and not allow ourselves to be

19:40

distracted by the circus sideshow

19:43

that is going to happen. And I tell my audience,

19:46

listen, on November 5th, vote

19:48

for who you vote, your conscience. But

19:50

within the medical freedom community, we have

19:52

to keep the movement alive, regardless

19:55

of what happens in

19:57

November, because it's the bottom up. organization,

20:00

it's the grassroots organization and the

20:02

local organization that I think will

20:05

be the contributing factor to changing

20:07

things. But the politics always follows

20:09

the culture. And

20:11

we are right at the

20:14

precipice of the next new

20:16

cultural, I think, revolution. And

20:19

I hope that it's for liberty, but we're

20:21

fighting it right now. We're fighting that battle

20:23

right now. And so my mission is to

20:26

keep this medical freedom community together as

20:28

much as I can, or as

20:31

much as we can, and then grow

20:34

it. Because the medical freedom

20:36

movement is the liberty movement worldwide,

20:39

globally. It's the difference between being

20:41

slaves in the 21st century and

20:44

we can talk about all the things

20:46

that you just mentioned, right? The AI,

20:48

the transhumanism, the transgenderism, global

20:51

war, the erasure of our

20:53

borders, our language and our culture, the

20:56

erasure of national sovereignty, individual

20:58

sovereignty. All of that is on the

21:01

table right now. And so

21:04

we need to understand that the power is from the

21:06

bottom up. People can exercise their

21:08

power in their own communities and

21:10

still vote because voting is important. You put

21:12

that in a way that

21:14

I hadn't really thought about, because I

21:16

hadn't thought about how you would think

21:19

politics or a political

21:21

year would be good for

21:23

movements. But you're right, it really, in many

21:25

ways, tends to destroy a movement. And I

21:28

suppose thinking out loud, part of

21:30

that is we're united around, we all see what the

21:32

problem is, like we'll stand and march those of us

21:34

that are getting it. I don't want to

21:36

be locked down. I want to be, you know, but

21:38

then when it comes to the moment where we

21:41

have to now agree on a solution. That's

21:44

right. All bets are off. Right. All bets are off.

21:46

Like how do we get out of it? We can

21:48

all recognize the problem. That's easy. Yeah. Let's stop it.

21:50

Let's stop it. Anyone want to take a crack at,

21:52

you know, how? Yeah. How about, you know, I'll run

21:54

for blah, blah, blah. Right. Do you know what he's

21:56

done? Do you know what he said about, I mean,

21:58

and just for all. Often politics gets

22:01

ugly and then slowly we're arguing over

22:04

the person, the solution, and

22:06

the whole thing versus staying

22:08

focused on what really

22:10

matters. Because

22:13

you're talking about medical freedom.

22:18

These other topics, like the high wire, we're starting

22:20

to really diversify. People are like, where's it going?

22:22

We are starting to talk about Putin

22:24

and World War. And we thought about, how

22:26

do we talk about it? Is that medical

22:28

freedom? Is that all that the high wire

22:30

represents? We went to

22:32

our mission statement, dedicated to

22:34

eradicating manmade disease. Well,

22:37

certainly nuclear fallout would have diseases

22:39

that we wouldn't want to deal with. But

22:44

how do you think the medical freedom movement is

22:46

connecting these dots? You keep using this word

22:48

liberty. Is it the

22:50

heart of the liberty movement or was

22:52

it the thing that really gave the

22:54

liberty movement something to focus on? How

22:58

do you see that? I

23:02

became aware of the medical freedom

23:04

movement about four

23:06

years prior to 2020. So

23:09

on my show, I was using your work and

23:11

the work that you guys made. So

23:13

we've been, I've been reporting on this

23:15

and all of, in the vaccine genre.

23:19

I believe that my kids were vaccine injured.

23:21

That's how most parents get into this discussion.

23:25

So I think

23:27

that the, that

23:30

movement is based on, I

23:32

mean, the ultimate expression of

23:34

liberty is bodily, body sovereignty,

23:36

right? Like if

23:39

the government can force you to be

23:41

injected against your will, carers you to

23:43

be injected against your will or undergo

23:45

any medical intervention against your

23:47

will or quarantine you against your will, then

23:50

everything else is off the table. It's over. Right.

23:53

Right. So I think that's where

23:56

the, the, the, the, the, the social economic

23:58

issues that we talk about, we argue about

24:00

politics. So that's

24:02

been on the table. I mean, we

24:04

know back into the 19, you know,

24:07

late 80s and 90s that pharma has

24:09

been expanding their power, capturing federal government

24:11

and the agencies. And so

24:13

I think that this has just

24:15

metastasized over the past 40 years.

24:18

And we're now at the crescendo.

24:20

And COVID was the moment when

24:23

we actually, the mask came off and

24:25

we actually witnessed, especially people who lived

24:27

in New York or California or

24:30

Italy, witness the full

24:32

scale martial law power of

24:37

the federal government or the

24:39

global government to propagandize,

24:43

indoctrinate, lock us down, arrest

24:46

us at school board meetings. And so I

24:49

think that had the effect of

24:51

waking people up who

24:53

were close to that, but they weren't where we were, right?

24:56

And so yes, the

24:58

Liberty movement is all

25:00

wrapped in your right,

25:03

your natural, God-given natural right

25:07

to think what you wanna think and say what

25:09

you wanna say and live the life the way

25:11

that you want to live it. It's all wrapped

25:13

up in our constitution. I mean, it's all right

25:15

there. And in the

25:17

spirit of the Declaration of Independence, which if you

25:19

were to look at the Declaration compared to what

25:22

the government is doing to us right now, we

25:24

should be revolting. We

25:26

should be doing what Netherlands is doing, but in the US,

25:29

the resistance is tempered because

25:32

we're so divided politically, right?

25:34

So we're so afraid of the other team that

25:37

we continue to elect these leaders

25:40

that are actually on the same team, both

25:43

political parties. And then

25:45

we just, it's a power sharing arrangement that

25:47

we go back and forth every four years

25:49

and we shuffle off to the voting booth

25:53

and we reelect the same people.

25:55

They've amassed way too much power.

25:58

The Vision of this country was a bottom up. Contrary,

26:00

it was. can. it was governed

26:02

by the people. That rotary. That's

26:04

local government, that's your immediate municipality

26:06

and in the states. So I

26:09

see the answer. There.

26:11

Are No Answers regularly Fight. Of that

26:13

life would probably be an ideal loose

26:15

shared devolution of power from the central

26:17

government and really just going back to

26:19

the states and it's gonna be messy

26:22

and you know to your point with

26:24

like that the packages that guys ran

26:26

on the A I is absolutely terrifying

26:28

Ai and and the to any of

26:30

the push for the the the transgender

26:33

as on but I think that the

26:35

consumer has an enormous amount of power

26:37

and as we begin to conversations about

26:39

a. The. Consumers

26:42

and and decide whether they want

26:44

that are not Rate Humans have

26:46

an amazing ability to survive your

26:49

and advances in technology and so.

26:51

You know, You. Just look

26:53

at the uptake of vaccines right now.

26:55

Culver nineteen vaccine single digits was never

26:58

supposed to be like that. Were opposed

27:00

to be getting jobs yet somehow do

27:02

all the propaganda. The majority, like the

27:04

vast majority of the American people, were

27:06

like we don't want those anymore. And

27:09

they're not taking on you. Look

27:11

at the the boycott of Bud

27:13

Light in Target over that issue

27:15

of transgender Lm. Very quiet but

27:18

powerful consumer decision is happening there

27:20

and people are talking about it

27:22

to they don't want to be

27:24

called a you know, a big

27:26

Ed or a homophobe are trans

27:29

folks, but with their dollars and

27:31

with their feet, they're walking. So.

27:34

I think our can are

27:36

you know the American populations

27:38

ready but we gotta eraser

27:40

these are very divisive issue,

27:42

party, political. Little. And

27:45

make it about Constitution, liberty, Freedom, and

27:47

all of the founding principles that I

27:49

tell you Most Americans can agree on.

27:52

are you know i've said before the when

27:54

when i look at the united states of

27:57

america i really question if we're being governed

27:59

from within out of our borders now.

28:01

I mean, when I, you know, I

28:03

remember I played a video early on

28:05

with the Build Back Better statement, you

28:07

know, and the great reset. And

28:09

I remember my team was putting it all together and I

28:12

knew all these people were saying Build Back Better. But

28:14

when I saw the video at the

28:17

end that Joe Biden said it like while

28:19

campaigning, and it came

28:21

from Klaus Schwab and a globalist

28:23

international consortium, not from a slogan

28:26

about being American, that

28:30

was the moment I felt like we turned the

28:32

corner. And now we

28:34

have got to be very conscious of whether or not

28:36

the leaders that we're looking at, I'm not trying to

28:38

be political here, I'm not telling anyone who to vote

28:40

for, but all of them, we should look at all

28:43

of them, you know, are they globalists? Do they believe,

28:45

you know, that there should be no

28:47

borders? Do they believe that anyone should just be able

28:49

to rush across our border as we're seeing right

28:52

now? And amazing, amazing that you

28:54

can watch the same administrations that

28:57

are fighting to, you know, have FISA,

28:59

you know, court ability to just

29:02

search my home at any moment, to

29:04

be able to track my cell phones,

29:06

which is part of what we know

29:09

they're doing, all saying to protect against

29:11

terrorism or domestic terrorists, while

29:13

people from the Middle East, Africa,

29:15

you know, Europe, China are just

29:18

flooding across our border without being

29:20

tracked at all. Yeah, right, that

29:22

hypocrisy or flooding across our border

29:24

without being vaccinated at all,

29:26

for what it's worth. I rarely get in

29:28

that conversation because I'm never going to fight

29:31

to vaccinate, you know, immigrants because it would

29:33

be absurdly against what I believe in.

29:35

But the fact that my kids are being forced, they

29:37

want to go to school, but you can just walk

29:39

in this country from another country, we're not even going

29:41

to look at it. That level

29:44

of hypocrisy. But my question

29:46

is, is it just

29:48

seems so obvious now, right? It seems we're

29:50

so obviously off track. Is

29:52

it happening just to make us

29:55

fight each other? I mean, are these

29:57

topics transgender? Are they just? You

30:00

know designed to like jab me and then I want and

30:02

this is really a question I want to ask you in

30:05

media I get is that Are

30:07

we doing exactly what they want us to do

30:09

by showing people these things and getting you excensed

30:11

and and and and getting you? Hyper

30:14

afraid afraid right? Yeah, we just

30:16

playing into The

30:18

goal which is get everyone afraid get everyone

30:20

confused running around with their hair on fire

30:22

scared of everything around them Yeah, and then

30:25

we can just dictate what we want That's

30:28

something I wrestle with all the time on my show

30:30

right because there are Existential

30:33

problems that we are dealing with

30:35

today, and they are very scary things right

30:37

um and So

30:40

you know I decided during

30:42

COVID that I just wasn't going to

30:44

be afraid It was just basically a

30:46

decision right and that my platform in

30:48

my show I was never gonna leave

30:50

my audience afraid ever yes,

30:53

so you want to Address these

30:55

problems, and you can't sugarcoat

30:57

them you have to slap them on

30:59

the kitchen table Address them,

31:01

but never be afraid of them And

31:04

so that's why I always try to move

31:06

people towards I've always been looking for solutions

31:08

right and I was the same as everyone

31:10

else I was you know on in my

31:12

own political camp for the majority of my

31:14

life, and then I started paying attention What

31:18

I realized is that you can't put all

31:20

of all of your hope into that political

31:22

basket because from

31:25

my perspective I

31:28

don't even know that either of the

31:30

two party political candidates have agency

31:33

or if they are Power once

31:35

they're right, and so I think

31:37

that DC has become so corrupted that

31:41

You know we really have to do business with the

31:43

family like you know I? Think

31:45

it's becoming obvious to a lot of people that

31:48

that the decisions are made well let

31:50

me just put up you know As

31:53

I've said you beforehand we're a nonprofit. I'm not

31:55

choosing sides on anything, but you know when I

31:58

look at Donald Trump right to me I

32:00

think we could all agree is probably the

32:02

most radical sort of

32:04

outsider that's taken office. And

32:07

when you watch someone like that, to your

32:09

point, just the things that just triggered me

32:11

when we watch him go in and say

32:13

he doesn't care about any of the system,

32:15

clearly it's kind of mayhem in there, but

32:17

there are people that love that, people that

32:19

are terrified of it. But

32:21

whatever the case, I think it's about

32:24

things like had he really focused on

32:26

China and the Wuhan lab, which he

32:28

was suspicious of, why didn't he really

32:30

just nail that to the wall? It

32:33

seemed like I think it came

32:35

from there. I'm going to put my own people.

32:37

I'm not buying into this. We're going to go

32:39

ahead and investigate that. Why didn't that happen? It

32:41

would have played so well into his messaging. Call

32:44

it nationalist, call it racist

32:48

or whatever you want to call it. That

32:52

was right there for the picking. And

32:54

he probably would have been right had he gotten in there

32:56

because now we know actually does look like it did

32:59

sort of come out of that Wuhan lab. Or

33:02

when I look at hydroxychloroquine and we looked at

33:04

he used it, why did he let go of

33:06

fighting for it? Things like

33:08

that. When you

33:10

could have really decimated Fauci with

33:12

that. Or simply he said, when

33:14

I get in office, I'm going

33:16

to release the JFK files, which is

33:18

something that I mean, every one of us wants to know.

33:21

Right? What is it that you're possibly

33:23

hiding? He goes in and then doesn't

33:25

do it. And I'm not meaning this

33:27

as any mark. I'm saying I sent

33:30

a guy that looked to me to

33:32

not care what the system thinks

33:34

and to your point goes in and it doesn't

33:36

look like much can be done there. Why are

33:38

those things not happening? And

33:40

look, Donald, if you're out there, you

33:42

come and sit in this seat. I

33:44

really would love that in this conversation

33:46

and know why you had didn't

33:49

sort of follow through in the places that could seem

33:51

like would. But we just imagine is this thing is

33:53

just such a behemoth. It's unstoppable.

33:55

There's nothing you can do. That is the

33:58

tragedy of this election season. And that's my second.

34:00

Second goal of my show is to shove this

34:02

issue of 2020 and 2021 into the political arena.

34:07

I want to hear from Donald Trump as

34:09

to why he did those things. I think as the

34:12

American people and as the electorate, we

34:14

deserve to have those questions

34:16

answered along with Biden. What

34:20

we have here is we have

34:22

the worst atrocities committed against American

34:25

citizens in the history of the founding of this country.

34:27

And just because I think, I mean, just to

34:29

be fair, Robert Kennedy Jr., Biden, Donald Trump are

34:31

up there. Yeah. Phil Stein, if

34:33

you can get enough votes, I mean, I just want

34:35

to be clear, not choosing sides. Yeah.

34:38

We should have real debates. We should see

34:40

these people being asked the hard questions. Why

34:42

did you make the decision if you were

34:44

there? Or what did you would you make

34:46

in the future? And instead, we seem to

34:48

be avoiding that entire debating system right now.

34:50

Not on my watch. I mean, I'm doing the best I can

34:52

on my show every day to like shove it back into the

34:55

four. But

34:57

there were only two candidates that had

34:59

the power of the executive office during

35:01

the atrocities of COVID-19. Trump

35:04

initiated it, initiated apparition,

35:06

warp speed, put Fauci in

35:08

control of everything. In fact,

35:12

even in 2018 and 19, laid

35:14

the groundwork by lifting the ban

35:16

on gain of function research that

35:19

was put in place by the Obama administration. He

35:22

also formed SISA via executive order.

35:25

That was in 2019, I believe, during the Trump, and I could

35:27

be wrong on that. But it

35:29

was prior to COVID. So

35:31

Trump initiated everything and then

35:33

Biden continued it and doubled

35:35

and tripled down. So this is

35:37

the best example that people have

35:40

of a uni-party system. I

35:42

always think about Biden

35:44

mandated a Donald Trump

35:46

product. Yes. Like,

35:49

I mean, just to say, are we

35:51

really that far apart? And

35:53

why not? We're not going to be able to go

35:55

into your job unless you take the product of the

35:57

man I said is evil. cronies

36:00

make for him and rush speed. Now you

36:02

all have to get it. So you are.

36:04

You're just like, what is going on? Well,

36:07

there are liberals on the record saying when

36:09

Trump was initiating Operation Warp Speed, I will

36:11

never take any vaccine that ever came up,

36:13

and then fast forward once

36:16

the Democrat president is in there. So that's

36:18

like the heart of what I'm saying about

36:20

the political divide. Like we are, George

36:23

Washington warned us of factions, right? That

36:25

when you're so afraid of the other

36:27

faction that you let evil

36:30

metastasize and corruption

36:33

metastasize, eventually making

36:35

a lesser of two

36:37

evils choice and then just

36:39

plain evil. You descend to a point

36:41

where it's just plain evil. So

36:44

I'm so glad there are more voices on the

36:46

political stage this year. I think that's a great

36:48

thing. And with my

36:51

audience, I am giving that I'm

36:54

too often in political contests we

36:57

hammer our guy and we

36:59

we end friendships

37:02

and relationships and even working professional relationships because you're not

37:04

going to vote for the guy that I want to

37:06

vote for. I just want to take everyone a step

37:08

back and say, hey, go for vote for who you

37:10

want to go vote for. Vote your

37:13

conscience. And maybe there's

37:15

something good they can do from the executive

37:17

office. I mean, Washington D.C. is pretty corrupt,

37:20

right? But they need us from the

37:22

bottom up. There's so much we can

37:24

do in the next seven months. We

37:26

have the World Health Organization that's going

37:28

to be voting on these nasty, nasty

37:30

amendments, securing more power for themselves. The

37:33

African nations are rising up. I

37:35

had two great interviews with the

37:38

African freedom fighters. Dr. Sanchata Chetty

37:40

was on my show

37:42

two days ago and I

37:44

had Dr. Herman Edeling, both

37:46

from South Africa. And

37:49

they are mobilizing

37:51

to smash down these amendments. And if the

37:53

United States can't do it, we might have

37:56

to depend on our brothers and sisters in

37:58

the great continent of Africa. do it

38:00

like they did in 2000 and the

38:02

best health record really when it comes to

38:04

the vaccine wasn't able

38:06

to make that case of dealing with the Bill and

38:09

Melinda Gates Foundation and Bobby and they

38:11

learned this is not their first rodeo. They know

38:13

they know what's going on. So

38:16

there's there's just so much we can do. Right.

38:19

So don't get, you know, wrapped up because

38:21

again, you know, if your guy

38:23

doesn't win, they're going to be depressed for a month.

38:25

And you know, even if he does win, is he

38:28

really going to do what he says he's going to

38:30

do? You know, go in and vote, put politics in

38:32

its place, elections in their

38:34

place and then let's let's

38:37

reimagine and reinvent civics. Right.

38:40

Like getting involved in our own communities. The

38:43

Liberty Movement. What do you when you say that? How

38:45

big do you think it is? I

38:48

think it's big enough. Big

38:50

enough. It's big enough. There are enough of us. It

38:55

was precarious for a while. I think

38:57

the 25 percent of

39:01

Americans who refused

39:03

covid-19 vaccine, despite

39:06

the coercion, the propaganda

39:09

and everything was billions of

39:11

dollars, billions of dollars

39:13

of marketing propaganda just dumps on

39:16

the American people. Yeah. That was

39:18

I always say it's about 30 percent, but we could

39:20

maybe 30. Yeah. But somewhere like

39:22

25 to 30 percent of America. I say the same

39:24

thing. I rejected. Yeah.

39:27

Stood. And look, that that has to

39:29

be a passionate group of people. Oh, yeah. Because

39:31

we were under assault. We were being told you are

39:33

like the end of the world. You're evil. You're

39:36

dark. You're killing your neighbors.

39:38

So 30 percent took that

39:40

for two, three straight years.

39:42

That assault. Yeah. On

39:45

every screen they walked by every newspaper they

39:47

read and they said, yeah, still no. Yeah.

39:50

That's a pretty passionate group of people. Oh, yeah. Liberal

39:52

and conservative. Right. And conservative

39:55

media was hammering it. Right. So

39:58

that was uniquely American. Yeah,

40:00

that didn't happen anywhere else in the

40:02

world agreed. It was uniquely American

40:05

So that core group if we can

40:07

keep it together Yeah through this election

40:09

season right regardless of what happens that's

40:12

going to be the new cultural liberty

40:14

movement That I I hope

40:16

and pray Is

40:18

going to lead the rest of the world out of this darkness? And

40:21

then we'll figure out how to face all of the

40:23

other things that are coming the financial. Yeah Um

40:26

the the global conflicts, but

40:29

we can do it i'm ever an optimist

40:31

So am I so am I i'm still trying to think of

40:34

how to end this show because she's like, you know I was

40:36

on an end on a positive note. Yeah With

40:38

you know the ai and things like that are happening,

40:41

but I I agree with you It's something i'm looking

40:43

at a lot right now is how big is that

40:45

movement? I always think about ed griffin You

40:48

know who wrote creature of jekyll island

40:50

has this amazing interview years ago with

40:52

the kgb defector

40:54

that Totally predicts the exact

40:56

world that we find ourselves in where we're

40:58

going to infiltrate you We're going to infiltrate

41:01

your universities and we're just going to create

41:03

mayhem. We're going to create Cultural issues that

41:05

will have you all fighting with each other and in

41:07

the end We're just more patient than

41:09

you are. We're going to take over america We're

41:11

going to win and I and I think about

41:13

you know those those moments, but he would always

41:15

say Right about 13

41:18

percent of a very

41:20

passionate Uh portion

41:22

of society has made every

41:25

change national change every sort of

41:27

system change that we've ever seen And

41:30

I have to believe that in that 25 30 percent We

41:33

are really strong in there. There is definitely, you

41:35

know 13 in there I

41:38

think it could be that 25 or even 30 And

41:41

then we see that only as you pointed out 90

41:44

of america aren't even going near

41:46

the booster shots Which means they've

41:48

at least the sort of the

41:51

the Trying to think

41:53

of the best way to say this the herd if you will Is

41:56

even moving in our direction and to me that's a

41:58

huge sign, right? How powerful is

42:01

that smaller group? Well, how much of

42:03

that middle that just don't ever stand

42:05

up for themselves a fight? They're being

42:07

there the tug-of-war between these two sides.

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What direction are they heading? It

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looks to me like they're all moving our direction

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whether they've admitted that or not Right and how

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we message to them or not. Yeah, but I

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think that I agree with you It's

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a really interesting revelation to

42:24

follow the work that you're doing. What's your podcast? What

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is you know, where we find it? Yeah, so

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I broadcast daily at 11 a.m. Eastern

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time on rumble Twitter

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spreely and every podcast

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platform Okay, so 11 a.m.

42:38

To about 12 30 if

42:40

I'm disciplined if I talk too much I might go

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two hours But

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yeah, just go to my website the

42:48

Shannon joy calm and you guys

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can find everything that I do, but thank you so much

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I'm a real fan of

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your work. I mean you guys When

42:57

I was when I was doing my

42:59

deep dive and trying to

43:01

figure out this whole vaccine issue

43:03

It was children's health defense and

43:06

you the high wire I can't

43:08

Aaron Siri Bobby Kennedy It

43:11

was a whole new world for me and

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you guys I've been watching you for many

43:15

many many years Consistency is unbelievable and I'm

43:17

really honored to be here. It's really great

43:19

having you and it's always I'm always so

43:21

excited to see More and more voices, you

43:24

know people like you have a lot more

43:26

competition Dallas I thought was always the goal

43:28

like I feel like you know, we started

43:30

watching Tucker Carlson and some other Reporters

43:33

out there, you know podcasters Joe

43:35

Rogan. You're the You're

43:39

like I kind of we laid our claim

43:42

but we're happy To

43:44

have all those other people out there. So well,

43:46

thank you for coming in. Thank you for the time

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and thank you for this really I

43:51

don't usually you know talk to other reporters and

43:53

I think that what people don't understand when they're

43:56

watching a show is There's a lot of thinking

43:58

on how how should I present? I

44:00

don't want everyone fighting. I don't. I'm trying to

44:02

create, you know, how do we reach out to

44:04

new hearts and minds? I can't insult them just

44:07

because they maybe made a different choice

44:09

and you know How do we stay

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unified and especially coming to this political

44:13

season? You raise really good points. I

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would say What I think

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about right now is we should probably say as

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Americans How about a moratorium on

44:22

yelling at each other? There we go. How

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about six months? We can all

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start yelling How about the last month yell and

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scream all you want and try and force me

44:30

to vote for who you think I should vote

44:32

for But I've been filled in. Yeah, why don't

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we all sit and have some really honest conversations

44:36

and recognize that Nobody we have

44:38

voted for over the last several decades ever

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did much of anything They promised they were

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gonna do and let us down in a

44:45

major way and have made it almost impossible

44:47

to say that they're anything But some sort

44:49

of duopoly. That's right. And why don't we

44:51

just honestly talk about How

44:53

we would ever change that and who we think

44:55

but put it all on the table and recognize

44:57

that we're in this together and America's

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really needed. I've had so many people that come

45:02

in here now that are guests from other countries

45:04

and they just say Dell We

45:07

are really terrified because America we need

45:09

you, you know, just recently Canadian lawyer

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came in and and Said

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we are looking to you to like

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lead the world and you

45:20

are having a tug-of-war with a Constitution that's

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the last one of its kind and

45:25

you're about to tear it apart. Yeah we

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really have to do something about this yes, we do and It's

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a blessing to be able to do it

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though, right? We live an extraordinary time. Absolutely

45:35

Shannon. Thank you so much Keep up the good work.

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Okay. All right, stay in touch