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Wherever you are out there in the

0:54

world, it's time to step out onto the high

0:57

wire. I especially want

0:59

to wish a happy Thanksgiving to everyone

1:01

in the United States of America. This

1:04

celebration of family, of coming together,

1:06

of having each other's backs in difficult

1:08

times. It's one of my favorite holidays.

1:12

We decided Thanksgiving is one of those

1:14

times where you're really going to be spending time with family,

1:17

watching football. Would

1:20

be great to do a high wire that's a little

1:22

bit more on the entertaining level

1:25

and maybe with some information that

1:27

perhaps you could share with that family member

1:29

that's just starting to open up their

1:31

mind a little bit around this

1:34

conversation of vaccines. Probably

1:36

because the COVID vaccine didn't go like

1:39

they thought, they're starting to think, well, maybe I

1:41

was not told all the truth. If

1:44

they're in that space, then this is the perfect

1:46

time to sit them down to watch the high wire.

1:50

What we're going to do today is actually play

1:52

a talk that Aaron Seary and I did

1:55

at Freedomfest. It's

1:57

all about, if you've been watching us, you

1:59

know Aaron Seary.

1:59

Aaron's out there and he's bringing lawsuits.

2:02

Well, he's deposed some of

2:04

the biggest vaccine superstars

2:07

there are from Stanley Plotkin,

2:10

who wrote literally the textbook

2:12

on vaccines. It's called Plotkin on

2:15

Vaccines. It's the Bible of

2:17

Vaccinations, along with Catherine

2:19

Edwards, who's also an author, one of

2:21

the authors on that book. She's one of the top

2:24

people involved in making and distributing

2:27

and promoting vaccines around the world.

2:29

What happens when you get them on the stand

2:32

under oath? That's why I think,

2:34

you know, when I travel the country and every time

2:36

I give a talk, I try to think, what would

2:38

be the most unassailable argument

2:41

I would give to a jury of people about

2:44

vaccinations and what's wrong with

2:46

them and how were they tested and how would

2:48

we know? Have we really

2:51

proven that they don't cause autism? Well,

2:53

all of those questions come up and you'd be

2:56

shocked what you end up

2:58

hearing the experts have to admit

3:00

to once they've got their hand

3:02

on the Bible and are required to tell the truth.

3:05

So this is an assembly of videos

3:07

that we've put together around

3:10

the issue of vaccines. We can

3:12

say things, we can show you data, but

3:14

what happens when you put the top experts

3:17

in front of a camera under oath? That's

3:20

what this is all about. It's a lot of fun.

3:22

Some of it's incredibly outrageous,

3:25

but I think you're gonna enjoy it. So

3:27

grab your turkey or maybe you're

3:29

on the course of pumpkin pie

3:31

and whipped cream, sit down

3:34

and enjoy vaccine experts

3:37

under oath. Here you go.

3:42

Please welcome Del Bigtree

3:45

and Aaron

3:46

Ceary. All

3:52

right.

3:54

Well, what we thought we'd

3:56

do because the last year I

3:59

was here in early...

3:59

We're here today, we've talked a lot about the COVID

4:02

vaccines and the issues that are becoming apparent

4:04

to everybody. But one of the big questions

4:06

really is, what about the other vaccines?

4:09

What about the other vaccines we've been giving our children? We

4:11

recognize that the COVID vaccine wasn't tested

4:13

very long, it was kind of raced out and it didn't

4:16

end up being effective. But that's an anomaly,

4:18

right? Well, the truth is, the reason my

4:20

nonprofit has done so well throughout COVID,

4:23

and we saw an explosion in my weekly

4:25

talk show going from hundreds of

4:27

thousands of viewers to millions of viewers,

4:30

was because we'd been

4:32

on this investigation for about five

4:34

years prior to COVID. We knew how the whole game

4:36

was played, we knew what was going on

4:38

with the vaccine program. So all

4:41

COVID was, was a rehash

4:43

of how all of these vaccines have been approved. You

4:45

just finally watched how the sausage was made

4:48

with your own eyes. So those of you that

4:50

are maybe asking questions, maybe have relatives

4:52

asking questions, or you're hearing about the huge

4:54

debate happening around, is Robert

4:56

Kennedy Jr. telling the truth or not?

4:59

We thought we would give you some of the evidence that we've

5:01

collected in our work. And so to

5:03

get this started, really

5:06

my nonprofit, Inform Consent

5:08

Action Network, I started after I'd been

5:10

on tour for a year with a documentary

5:13

about autism and vaccines. And

5:15

that was one of the most controversial documentaries

5:18

ever made. We got kicked out of Tribeca Film Festival.

5:21

But when I wanted to do a deeper investigation,

5:24

I wanted to know more than just the issues

5:26

with an MMR vaccine, what about

5:28

all of the rest of them? One of the issues you have

5:30

when you're trying to look at vaccines as a

5:32

journalist and investigate it, is

5:34

you've got this liability protection.

5:37

In 1986, they took away all liability

5:40

from manufacturers. Basically,

5:43

the pharmaceutical industry blackmailed

5:45

Ronald Reagan, said, we are

5:47

losing so much money from death and injury

5:50

cases in courtrooms. We cannot make a

5:52

profit in our vaccine program.

5:54

So either you protect us from liability,

5:57

or we're going to stop making them. You

6:00

can't sue the manufacturer. It says right

6:02

here, no person may bring a civil action against

6:04

the vaccine administrator or manufacturer for

6:06

damages arising from a vaccine related injury

6:08

or death. Total and complete protection. And

6:11

I say that to friends and they say, that's amazing.

6:13

Doesn't that mean right there, they must be admitting that there's

6:15

injury? Of course they are. There's

6:18

no such thing as a pharmaceutical product that doesn't

6:20

injure somebody. There's a reason why you have multiple

6:23

versions of drugs because if one is

6:25

giving you side effects, try another one. Vaccines

6:28

are no different. They have all the same types of elements.

6:29

I wanted to get into

6:32

this. And so we wanted to investigate.

6:35

Well, what happens? What happens when you

6:37

take a product, one of the only ones in America

6:39

made by arguably one of the

6:41

most, you know, corrupted

6:44

industries. When you look at pharma, who's paid

6:46

out more money for death and injury? Billions

6:48

and billions of dollars by Merck and Sanofi

6:51

Aventis and Pfizer for

6:53

having lied about the safety of their products.

6:55

But they have one group of products that they

6:57

cannot be sued for. Well, that

7:00

created a gold rush. And ultimately

7:02

what happened to this is in 1986, there's

7:05

about three vaccines given in multiple doses.

7:07

So for all of you out there, they're saying, I'm

7:09

just vaccinating my kids the same way

7:12

I was vaccinated. No, you're not. You

7:14

got maybe 10 vaccines

7:16

by the time you were 18 years old. When

7:18

we took liability away in 1986, this

7:21

is what happened to our vaccine program. Suddenly

7:24

it explodes. 72 vaccines

7:26

your kids were getting or your grandkids are getting

7:28

by the time they're 18. And none

7:31

of these need to be tested for safety. Why? Why

7:33

would you? Let's be honest. Why

7:35

would you spend money testing a product

7:38

for safety if you cannot be sued,

7:40

if it kills or injures anybody? You

7:42

wouldn't do it. Why waste the money? It

7:44

ends up being the perfect product. This

7:46

is a product that we don't have to test for safety.

7:49

And we don't even have to advertise it because

7:51

the government's gonna force it on every child

7:53

in America. This is why

7:55

this product became one of the number

7:58

one biggest sellers, biggest gold Russia. money-making

8:00

parts of the industry we now look at

8:03

as the giant big pharma. So

8:06

I went to Air and Syria and said, look, they

8:08

have total liability protection. What

8:11

do we do? And we started discussing, what

8:13

if we sue the government? Since the

8:15

government's taking on the liability, they're

8:18

saying that manufacturers will handle this. So

8:21

now you sue the government. Imagine this.

8:23

When you're injured by a vaccine, you have to sue

8:26

Health and Human Services. In fact, the head of Health and

8:28

Human Services is who is your naming

8:31

as a defendant. So now the government's

8:33

going to use Department of Justice lawyers against

8:35

you, against you, and

8:38

tell you you're crazy, you're wrong, that

8:40

injury didn't happen. You have to prove that it happened.

8:43

That's how the court system works. And

8:45

who was supposed to do the safety trials

8:48

that you need to use in court so you

8:50

can prove this injury is caused by the vaccine?

8:54

Health and Human Services. The

8:56

same group you were suing is the one

8:58

that's supposed to be doing the safety trials. This is

9:00

literally like a murder

9:03

case where your murderer is the one

9:05

doing all of your forensics.

9:07

And that's how the system's been designed. So

9:10

I brought in Air and Syria to look at this and

9:12

say, how do we handle this in law? And so

9:14

when you start looking at it, what really

9:17

sort of jumped out at you when we think about

9:19

safety and how products are made? Well,

9:23

one thing that really jumped out at me is that of all

9:25

the products on the market,

9:27

all the products on the market

9:29

that you can't sue the manufacturer for

9:31

injuries for effectively, it's

9:34

not planes, it's

9:36

not drugs, it's

9:37

not all kinds of dangerous things we

9:40

know are out there,

9:42

it's

9:43

a product injected into babies that

9:45

we say that the health authorities

9:48

say

9:48

are safe.

9:50

Of all the products, that's the one product

9:53

that effectively manufactures immunity

9:55

for liability. That really struck

9:57

me. That really struck me. the

10:00

product is able to survive in the market, cars

10:02

and so forth, they make them better. But

10:05

for this product in 1986, manufacturers

10:08

were given immunity liability, presumably

10:11

they had a real issue in terms of being able to make

10:14

them safer. And so what's the effect

10:16

in terms of safety to answer your question more directly,

10:18

Del? As you know, we

10:21

decided we're going to look at what's

10:23

the impact on the clinical trials, pre-licensure

10:27

and what's the impact after licensure.

10:29

So in terms of

10:31

the clinical trials, I

10:33

think that this chart might

10:36

help bring home the impact

10:39

that taking away liability

10:41

from manufacturers of vaccines has

10:44

had on how the clinical trials

10:47

relied upon to license those products

10:49

were conducted. If you look up on your

10:51

screen, you're going to see a chart. And

10:54

in that chart, according, these are

10:57

putting COVID vaccine aside, my understanding this

10:59

is a site that explains

11:01

these are the five top selling

11:05

drugs, pharmaceutical

11:07

products that Pfizer has in

11:09

all time. Look at that list.

11:13

Four of those are drugs. One

11:15

of them is a vaccine. Take

11:18

a good look. Which one looks a little different

11:21

than the rest? This is like that Sesame Street

11:23

game, right? One of these drugs is

11:25

not like the other. You're right. Except

11:27

this one can have lethal consequences.

11:30

And if you look, Enbrel, Eliquis,

11:33

Lyrica and Lipitor, safety

11:36

review period during their clinical trials into

11:38

the years, PCV13,

11:41

Prodont 13, that's the only vaccine on the list.

11:45

Look at the safety review period

11:46

and look at the control. Was it a placebo control?

11:49

No.

11:51

This

11:52

is a list of

11:54

the vaccines administered

11:57

to babies three

11:59

times each. by

12:01

the time they're six months old. I

12:03

mean think about this, I want you to think about the placebo

12:06

controlled trial. This is something that's really

12:08

starting to make the news and they're saying we have done

12:11

these placebo controlled trials, they haven't. And

12:13

why is it important? When you're testing

12:15

a drug, one group gets this testing

12:17

drug, the brand new drug, another group

12:20

gets what's a placebo, something that has no effect

12:22

on the human body, but we don't know who got

12:24

what. It's double blind, they both get it.

12:27

In the case of the drugs, six years, seven

12:29

years, five years, at least two years, we

12:31

track both groups all the way through and ask

12:33

obvious questions. Who had more

12:36

diabetes or autoimmune issues or cancers

12:39

or mutagenetic effects? And

12:43

obviously at the end of it you unblind it, the

12:45

scientists find out who was who because they shouldn't

12:47

be manipulating it. And then you see, was

12:50

the safety profile the same?

12:54

Did the group that get the saline injection or got

12:56

the sugar pill have the same amount of health

12:58

issues as the ones that got the product?

13:01

So in the vaccines, there are no placebos.

13:04

This is the only way to prove causation. When they

13:06

say to you, well we've never proved causation

13:08

of this injury, whether it's multiple

13:11

sclerosis in vaccines or autism in vaccines,

13:14

we don't have any evidence, there's no causal relationship,

13:17

because you never did the trial,

13:19

which would be the only way to prove

13:21

causation, which is a placebo based

13:23

trial, you skipped it. And this is what

13:26

they're doing on all these vaccines. And

13:28

Pfizer wants to know the

13:30

safety profile of their drugs before it goes in

13:32

the market. Why?

13:34

What happens if the drug causes injury?

13:37

They

13:38

can be sued and they're sued

13:40

all

13:41

day long on their drug products. Drugs

13:44

come off the market all the time, but

13:46

they can't be sued for the vaccine products. Let's show you some evidence. There's

13:49

a hepatitis B vaccine given

13:51

to a baby in the first day of life.

13:54

First 24 hours they're getting this vaccine. We're

13:56

not making this up. If you look

13:58

at the vaccine, if you ask your doctor, I want

14:00

to see the insert wrapped around the vaccine.

14:03

Look what it says about the safety trial. This

14:05

is how we licensed it This is what the

14:07

FDA saw and said good enough for

14:09

us put it on the market in three

14:12

clinical studies There was four hundred thirty

14:14

four doses of rachamba vax HB.

14:17

There were five Micrograms were

14:19

administered to 147 healthy

14:22

infants and children up to ten years of an age of

14:24

age Was

14:28

the size of this massively tested

14:30

trial for the fate of every

14:32

day one old baby in America

14:35

and probably around the world. How long

14:37

did that trial last? No placebo.

14:40

They were monitored for five days

14:45

Five days and to put

14:47

what you're looking at in context just understand this

14:50

is the FDA website This

14:53

is the package insert for the

14:55

hepatitis B vaccine Section

14:57

six point one you can look at

15:00

every single don't take our word For

15:03

this chart on the right those

15:06

safety review periods seem incredible And

15:08

in fact, I wouldn't believe them if you showed

15:11

them to me But

15:13

all you have to do would you take any

15:15

drug that had five days three

15:17

days? 28 days safety trial

15:20

that would be insane and

15:23

By the way, we brought lawsuits

15:25

against CDC on FDA on

15:27

this We said if there's a safety

15:29

trial longer than seven days on the on the

15:32

H hepatitis B vaccine We'd

15:34

like to see it FOIA request, right? Right.

15:36

So for all of these clinical trials in

15:39

section six one one They summarize the

15:41

safety review period the control

15:43

used and how big the trial is how powered

15:46

it is And those numbers seem so unbelievable

15:49

that we actually FOIA and freedom of information

15:52

act Sent requests to the FDA to get copies

15:54

of clinical trial reports and that in fact,

15:57

for example for this hepatitis

15:59

B vaccine

15:59

five days of safety review after injection

16:02

with 147 children. That

16:04

doesn't determine anything.

16:07

And the only reason I think the company that sells

16:09

this product,

16:10

Merck,

16:12

is okay with this, why the FDA

16:14

is, we'll get into, is because they don't have to worry

16:17

about paying for injuries after it's licensed. Let's

16:19

get to some videos. Okay. We

16:21

plan on this going faster. I'm like, wow, that clock's

16:23

moving quickly. I want to show you what some of these people

16:25

are saying on the stand. So this

16:28

is Stanley Clock interview, right? So Stanley

16:30

Plotkin is arguably the leading

16:32

voice in vaccines in the world. He's

16:35

on almost every vaccine company's board

16:37

of directors in one way or another across the world.

16:40

And if you go to the CDC and you sit

16:42

in one of their meetings at the ACIP, the advisory

16:44

committee on immunization practices, the

16:46

gavel is called the Plotkin gavel. And

16:49

the book written on vaccines that's this

16:51

big is Plotkin on Vaccines.

16:54

When he was asked, I'm going to play it. Yeah,

16:57

go ahead. This is just the world's leading vaccine, all of us in vaccines.

16:59

When I asked him about, and I confronted

17:01

him about the hepatitis B vaccine,

17:04

the under oath looked at under oath. And

17:06

when they're under oath, you get a little bit of

17:08

a different answer than when they're on TV or

17:11

they're doing commercial.

17:12

It is my great honor to use

17:14

the Stanley Plotkin gavel

17:17

to open this meeting.

17:18

Our good friend and colleague, Dr.

17:20

Stan Plotkin. Dr. Plotkin. Virtually

17:22

every country in the world is affected by this vaccine.

17:25

He was involved in pivotal trials on anthrax,

17:28

auropoleil, rabies vaccine, rubella

17:31

vaccine, the rotavirus vaccine, rabies.

17:34

He has earned the distinguished physician award

17:36

of the pediatric infectious disease society, the Finland

17:38

award of the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases,

17:41

the Hillerman award of the American Society for Microallergy,

17:44

the French Legion of Honor, and the Bruce

17:46

Medal in Preventive Medicine. He is

17:48

a member of the Institute of Medicine and the French

17:50

Academy of Medicine.

17:51

One of the very special things about

17:54

him is the global impact that he's had, not

17:56

just from the products, but from his

17:58

books.

17:59

He developed the standard textbook for vaccines

18:02

in 1988. Bill Gates calls

18:05

his book the Bible for Vaccinologists. I

18:07

hope you all have indeed read

18:09

the book, and I hope it's more

18:12

accurate than the Bible. He

18:14

trained just a generation of scientists,

18:16

including myself, to think

18:18

like he thinks.

18:21

Dr. Plotkin, earlier you testified

18:24

that there are two happy vaccines

18:26

in the market, one by Glaxo-GSK,

18:29

that's Endrix-B, and the other one

18:32

is by Merck-Ricamba-Vax-HB,

18:35

right? Yes. This is the

18:38

product, the manufacturer insert

18:40

for a Ricamba-Vax-HB, correct? Yes.

18:43

And the clinical trial experience would

18:45

be found in Section 6.1, correct?

18:49

Correct? Dr.

18:51

Plotkin? Yes. In

18:54

Section 6.1, when

18:56

you look at the clinical trials that were done pre-licensure

18:58

for a Comma-Vax-HB, how

19:01

long does it say that safety was monitored

19:03

after each dose?

19:06

Let's see.

19:16

Five days. Is five days

19:18

long enough to detect an autoimmune issue that

19:20

arises after five days? No.

19:23

Is five days long enough to detect any neurological

19:26

disorder that arose from

19:28

the vaccine after five days? No.

19:31

There is no control group, correct?

19:32

It does not mention any control group,

19:34

no.

19:37

If you turn to Section 6.2, under

19:41

immune system disorders, does

19:44

it say that there were reports of hypersensitive

19:46

reactions, including anaphylactic and

19:48

anaphylactrin reactions, bronchospasms,

19:52

and Uticaria having

19:55

been reported within the first few hours after

19:57

vaccination? Yes. have

20:00

there been reports of hypersensitivity syndrome?

20:04

Yes, that's one. Reports

20:06

of arthritis?

20:08

It

20:11

is mentioned. It

20:14

also reports autoimmune diseases,

20:17

including systemic lupus,

20:21

erythmatosies, lupus-like

20:23

syndrome, vasculitis, and

20:27

polyteritis, nodosa

20:31

as well, correct? Yes,

20:34

that's what it states. And also

20:36

it states that under the nervous

20:38

system disorders, it states that after

20:41

that, there have been reports of

20:43

Guillain-Barre syndrome, correct?

20:46

Yes. As well as multiple sclerosis, exacerbation

20:50

of multiple sclerosis, myelitis,

20:53

including transverse myelitis, seizure,

20:56

febrile seizure, peripheral

20:58

neuropathy, including Bell's palsy, radiculopathy.

21:04

Ridiculopathy. Thank you very much. Muscle

21:09

weakness, hypesthesia,

21:12

and encephalitis, correct? Correct.

21:14

These are events

21:17

that are reported after vaccination. And

21:19

as we just discussed,

21:22

in order to establish whether it's causal

21:25

between the vaccine and the condition, you

21:27

need a randomized

21:31

placebo-controlled study.

21:33

That was not done for this

21:36

hepatitis B vaccine before licensure, was it?

21:38

No.

21:38

OK. And

21:42

given that the vaccine now appears on the

21:44

CDC's recommended list,

21:46

isn't it true that it would now be considered unethical

21:49

to conduct such a study today?

21:55

It would be, yes, it would be ethically

21:58

difficult.

21:59

you have it. That's how every vaccine

22:02

has made it through the process. Imagine how

22:04

many of us gave the day

22:06

one old baby with all of those side effects

22:08

that were known, but the reason they get away

22:11

with saying that there's no causal relationship

22:13

is they refuse to do the study that would have allowed

22:15

you to say they were causally related

22:17

and therefore it gets approved. Five days of safety,

22:20

that is the massive amount of studies that have been

22:22

done for products given to day

22:24

one old babies. And let me point this out. We

22:27

have more babies die on the first

22:29

day of life in the United States of America

22:31

than every other industrialized nation

22:34

combined. That

22:36

is a terrible death rate for the greatest hospital

22:38

system in the greatest nation in the world. And

22:41

can they explain it? And why does their baby

22:43

need a hepatitis B vaccine, a sexually

22:46

transmitted disease that you usually only get if

22:48

you were involved in multiple partners, prostitution,

22:52

or sharing heroin needles? Why

22:54

does our baby on the first day of life need to

22:56

get that vaccine? And they might say, well, the

22:59

mom could be hepatitis B positive.

23:01

Yeah, but every mother in America is tested and

23:03

gets a blood test so we know whether she has it or not.

23:06

So then why is every baby getting it when

23:08

we know the only mother is where the baby might

23:11

even need it? This is how ridiculous

23:13

this entire system is and it starts there. Let's

23:15

continue on. Post

23:18

licensure, right? We talk pre licensure. That's

23:20

like what happens before it's licensed. What

23:22

happens after it's post, you know, out there in the market.

23:25

So if, you know, before licensure, you don't have

23:29

proper clinical trials that review safety for long

23:31

duration against a control group that you can really compare

23:33

it against, you'd at least hope

23:35

that after licensure

23:37

that studies are being conducted to

23:40

assure the safety of childhood vaccines.

23:43

Well, as we all know, and you probably

23:45

heard the CDC and other health agencies say

23:47

all the time, all claimed

23:49

harms are thoroughly studied. And,

23:54

you know, you'll hear this always, you

23:56

know, rest assured, if you say

23:58

vaccines cause acts, I'll tell you. it doesn't and

24:01

probably the most famous claim, they'll

24:03

tell you that don't worry vaccines do

24:06

not cause. Right.

24:08

You do that all the time. And so in

24:11

looking at this issue, you know, I

24:14

remember Dell we discussed,

24:16

well, if we're going to start to see how

24:20

well do our health authorities, how

24:22

well do the pharmaceutical companies really study

24:24

the

24:25

claimed harms of vaccines. Let's

24:28

start by seeing how

24:30

well they've studied

24:32

the injury that they

24:35

have told us they have studied more

24:37

clearly than anything else. This

24:39

one we have definitely covered. We've proved

24:41

beyond a shout of a doubt that vaccines

24:44

do not cause autism. We have no idea what

24:46

causes autism. They'll say on the news,

24:49

totally blind to that concept, but we do

24:51

know what doesn't cause it.

24:53

We're not sure in the scientific community what causes

24:55

autism, but we know that vaccines

24:58

do not. Vaccines are really the one thing we

25:00

have looked at as causing autism.

25:03

We know that vaccines don't cause autism.

25:05

The science is clear. Vaccines

25:08

don't cause autism. I do not deny

25:10

in any way that we need to do more about autism,

25:13

but it has nothing to do with vaccines. Let

25:15

me be clear. Vaccines

25:17

do not cause autism. Vaccines

25:19

don't cause autism. Absolutely

25:22

sure. Absolutely sure.

25:24

Well, great. The studies must

25:26

be prolific.

25:28

They must have studied every vaccine to assure

25:31

that, in fact, vaccines don't cause autism. Here's

25:33

the thing. Despite

25:35

the fact that they're on the news and they're constantly telling

25:38

everybody out there vaccines don't cause autism, studies

25:40

surveying parents with

25:43

autistic children, to this day, still 40

25:47

to 70 percent, according to these studies, of these

25:49

parents say they believe

25:51

that vaccines, one or more, cause autism.

25:53

And when you ask them what vaccine, what vaccine

25:56

are you attributing to your child's autism, these

25:58

are the vaccines that they'll typically list. the ones

26:00

that it just got highlighted in red. This is the CDC

26:02

vaccine schedule. And you could see it's

26:04

the hepatitis B vaccine given three times by

26:06

six months of age. And the DTaP, Hib,

26:09

IPV, these

26:12

are the vaccines that they will look at as, and,

26:14

and, and click, as well as the MMR vaccine,

26:16

which is at the very bottom,

26:18

which is given no earlier

26:20

than one year of age.

26:22

So if you're going to study all vaccines and

26:24

you're going to say vaccines don't go to autism, you're

26:27

going to study that the vaccines that parents are claiming

26:29

are causing autism, right? The vaccine is given

26:31

in the first months of six months of life. And

26:34

just to be clear, this claim

26:36

that these vaccines are causing autism goes

26:39

way back. This is

26:42

this, what I'm about to show you is a decade

26:44

before Andy Wakefield said a word

26:47

about vaccines and autism. This is the

26:49

National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986,

26:52

the law that Dell referred to earlier

26:54

that gave manufacturers immunity liability.

26:56

When it did that, the law itself,

27:00

Congress required their health authorities

27:02

to study the 10 or 11 most

27:05

commonly claimed injuries from these

27:07

products. One of them on that list

27:09

was autism. It said to our

27:11

health authorities, study whether pertussis

27:14

containing vaccines does or does not

27:16

cause autism because it is something that is

27:19

one of the most claimed injuries

27:21

from this product. Again, a decade

27:23

before Andy Wakefield said a word

27:25

about vaccines and autism in 1991, the

27:29

Institute of Medicine did that study. They

27:31

reviewed all the literature to see

27:33

whether or not vaccines, the pertussis

27:35

vaccine caused autism. The most studied

27:38

issue there is with vaccines, autism

27:41

and Institute of Medicine looks into it. How

27:43

many studies have been done? What do we know about it? So

27:45

in 1991, zero, no

27:47

studies have been done. Okay. Early

27:49

days, no studies, zero.

27:52

That's what they conclude.

27:54

And

27:56

then when you think about this, imagine

27:58

you're a scientist or a doctor, you care about it.

27:59

this issue, one of those was Bernadine Healy,

28:02

head of the NIH, the most powerful

28:05

research institute in America and for the entire

28:07

world. She got in, she's

28:09

running the place, she's the top doctor in the United

28:11

States of America, looks into the autism vaccine

28:14

connection. She's asked in 2008 the CBS

28:16

interview by Cheryl

28:19

Atkinson what she thinks. Remember,

28:22

oh we figured this out, the science

28:24

has settled, top scientist head of NIH,

28:27

former head of NIH. This

28:27

is the time when we do

28:30

have the opportunity to understand whether

28:32

or not there are susceptible

28:34

children, perhaps genetically, perhaps

28:37

they have a metabolic issue, mitochondrial

28:40

disorder, immunological issue,

28:43

that makes them more susceptible

28:46

to vaccines plural or

28:48

to one particular vaccine or to a component

28:51

of vaccine like mercury. So

28:53

we now in these times

28:56

have to, I think, take another look at that hypothesis,

28:59

not deny it. And

29:01

I think we have the tools today that we didn't

29:03

have ten years ago, that we didn't have 20

29:05

years ago to try and tease that out

29:08

and find out if indeed there is that

29:10

susceptible group.

29:12

Why is this important? A

29:14

susceptible group does not mean

29:17

that vaccines aren't good. What a

29:19

susceptible group will tell us is

29:21

that maybe there is a group of individuals

29:24

or a group of children that shouldn't have

29:27

a particular vaccine or shouldn't have vaccine

29:29

on the same schedule. It is the job

29:31

of the public health community and a physician

29:34

to be out there and to say, yes,

29:37

we can make it safer because we are able

29:40

to say this is a subset, we're going

29:42

to deliver it in a way that we think is safer.

29:44

Do you feel the government was too quick

29:47

to dismiss out of hand that there was

29:49

this possibility of a link between vaccines and

29:51

autism? I think the government or certain

29:53

public health officials in the government have

29:55

been too quick to dismiss the concerns

29:58

of these families without... studying

30:00

the population that got sick. I

30:03

haven't seen major studies that focus

30:05

on 300 kids

30:07

who got autistic symptoms

30:10

within a period of a few weeks of a vaccine.

30:13

The reason why they didn't want to look

30:15

for those susceptibility groups was

30:18

because they were afraid that if they found them,

30:20

however big or small they were, that

30:23

that would scare the public away. The

30:26

fact that there is concern that you don't

30:28

want to know that susceptible group is

30:30

a real disappointment to me. If

30:33

you know that susceptible group you can save those children.

30:35

It sounds like you don't think the hypothesis

30:38

of a link between vaccines and autism

30:40

is completely irrational. So when I first

30:42

heard about it I thought well that doesn't make sense to me.

30:45

The more you delve into it, if you look at the basic

30:47

science, if you look at the research that's been

30:49

done in animals, if you also

30:51

look at some of these individual

30:54

cases, and if you look at the

30:56

evidence that there is no link,

30:59

what I come away with is the question

31:01

has not been answered.

31:02

What? Head of

31:05

NIH 2008? What? The question hasn't been answered?

31:10

What am I hearing on the news every single day? And

31:12

I want you to remember if you take one thing away

31:14

listen to what she said. We are so afraid

31:18

that if we do a study that finds

31:21

a small group of children that are susceptible,

31:23

not the whole group, just a small group

31:26

that are having a bad reaction to this, we

31:28

are afraid that no matter how small that

31:30

group is, that if we discover

31:33

it, it will scare everybody away from taking

31:35

vaccines and therefore we are

31:37

not doing those studies. That is

31:40

the fact. You want a motive? It's not evil. It's

31:42

not money-grubbing. It's that they

31:45

are so afraid that they will hurt the vaccine

31:47

program by investigating

31:49

and finding the truth that they refuse

31:52

to find the truth, and no

31:54

studies are being done on these issues at

31:57

all.

31:59

to that point, our

32:03

health authorities again hired the Institute

32:05

of Medicine to look again at

32:08

whether or not pertussis containing vaccine,

32:10

this time as well as diphtheria and tetanus containing vaccine,

32:13

do or do not cause autism.

32:15

The Institute of Medicine then created

32:17

this massive panel that reviewed all of the

32:20

scientific literature out there, and

32:22

they only could find one study relating

32:25

to DTaP, again the vaccine given

32:27

at two, four, and six months of life, and

32:30

autism, the Schier and Geier study which actually

32:32

found that there was a correlation

32:35

between DTaP vaccines and autism, but

32:37

they threw out the study because it was based on VAERS

32:39

data.

32:41

The important point is not that study. The

32:43

important point is here we are in 2012, over two

32:45

decades after the 1986 act told

32:47

our health

32:51

authorities, study whether

32:54

pertussis containing vaccine does or

32:56

doesn't cause autism, and there is still

32:59

not a single study conducted,

33:01

except for the one study. The biggest complaint parents

33:04

have across the world

33:06

of this vaccine, the number one biggest

33:08

complaint, the most dangerous complaint,

33:11

our government is saying study it, in

33:14

two decades they've still refused to do

33:16

a single study, and you're told

33:18

this has been handled extensively. So

33:21

I had an opportunity again to ask the world's

33:23

leading vaccinologist about exactly

33:26

that finding. I'm going

33:27

to

33:29

hand you what's being marked as Exhibit 22. This

33:33

is an excerpt from the IOM's report,

33:36

right?

33:36

Yes. Okay.

33:38

And this is where the IOM discusses

33:41

the evidence with regard to whether DTaP

33:45

or TDaP

33:47

cause autism, correct? Correct.

33:50

Okay. And then to turn to the second page,

33:53

can you read the causality conclusion with

33:55

regard to whether DTaP and TDaP cause

33:57

autism?

33:58

The evidence is inadequate. to accept

34:00

or reject a causal relationship

34:03

between diphtheria toxoid, tetanus

34:05

toxoid, or a cellular pertussis

34:08

containing a vaccine and autism.

34:11

So the IOM reviewed the available

34:13

evidence with regard to whether Tdap or DTaP

34:16

can cause autism, and their conclusion

34:18

was

34:21

the evidence doesn't exist to

34:24

show whether DTaP or

34:26

Tdap do or do not

34:29

cause autism, correct?

34:31

Yes, but the point

34:33

is that there are no studies

34:36

showing that it does cause autism

34:38

except one study by two

34:40

well-known anti-vaccination figures,

34:43

Geyer and Geyer, who have no legitimacy

34:46

whatsoever.

34:47

So what they're saying

34:49

is that there's no evidence,

34:54

and the important

34:56

point from my point of view is that

34:58

there is no positive evidence

35:02

to do a proper study,

35:04

as we've been discussing,

35:06

which would disprove

35:10

it, would involve

35:12

the controlled administration

35:15

of vaccines and withholding

35:19

vaccines from children who should

35:21

have them. But

35:22

since there's no evidence that DTaP or Tdap

35:24

don't cause autism, you can't yet

35:26

say that vaccines do not cause autism, correct?

35:30

I cannot say that

35:34

as a scientist or a logician,

35:37

but I can say as a physician that

35:41

no, they do not cause autism.

35:43

So what you're saying is as a physician or logician,

35:46

then you could

35:50

not say vaccines do not cause autism.

35:52

But

35:54

as a pediatrician, you're

35:58

saying that I would

36:00

say that to a parent because you

36:03

want to make sure they get the vaccine. Is that right?

36:06

You know, I can't be sure that DTAP

36:09

doesn't cause leprosy. That doesn't

36:11

mean that that stops

36:14

me from using DTAP

36:16

vaccine.

36:17

Are people claiming

36:20

that DTAP has caused leprosy?

36:23

Are you aware of any such complaint? I'm not aware of

36:25

any such complaints, but I wouldn't be surprised

36:28

to see it on the web one of these days. Okay.

36:31

But people have made enough

36:33

complaints about DTAP,

36:36

Tdap causing autism that the Institute

36:38

of Medicine at

36:40

the Commission of HHS thought

36:43

it was serious enough to do a scientific

36:46

review, correct? Yes. If

36:48

you don't know whether

36:50

DTAP or Tdap cause autism,

36:55

shouldn't you wait

36:57

until you do know, until

36:59

you have the science to support it to

37:02

then say that vaccines

37:04

do not cause autism?

37:07

Do I wait? No,

37:09

I do not wait because

37:12

I have to take into account

37:14

the health of the child.

37:19

And so for that reason, you're

37:21

okay with telling the parent that DTAP,

37:25

Tdap does not cause autism

37:28

even though the

37:31

science isn't there yet to support

37:33

that claim. Absolutely. I'm

37:35

also willing to tell them it doesn't cause leprosy.

37:38

Okay. Again, did the IOM

37:40

review whether

37:42

DTAP caused leprosy? No. Okay.

37:45

You know, I will say that in my experience, the

37:47

posing vaccinologists, immunologists, pediatricians,

37:50

infectious disease specialists, particularly vaccinologists,

37:53

when there isn't any evidence, one or another,

37:55

their conclusion is it doesn't

37:57

cause it. I've not experienced that in any

37:59

other... other air science but the long before

38:01

i have time uh... so you

38:04

know one of the things you want to do is a record fine

38:06

maybe the incident medicine could find

38:08

it maybe they had you know the the the the the lean-back

38:10

songs in the world of now the studies the pc

38:12

he surely should have the studies the cdc

38:15

and its website says that you don't want them so

38:17

here we submitted a freedom of information act request

38:20

to the cdc asking them

38:22

please provide all studies relied upon

38:24

by the cdc to claim that the tab that he's on cause

38:27

autism we did the same for happy vaccine

38:29

prevenar inactivated polio

38:31

vaccine as well as all those

38:33

vaccines combined please

38:35

give us the studies

38:37

guess what they didn't give it to us so we have to see

38:39

them in federal court

38:41

and here is the conclusion of that federal

38:44

lawsuit the cdc finally listed

38:46

twenty studies that they rely upon

38:49

they say to claim the vaccines don't cause

38:51

autism for the vaccines given

38:53

in the first six months of life i

38:56

can only assume they think we don't read or something

38:58

but we do so we read the twenty studies

39:01

here's the thing about them eighteen

39:03

of them involved the merisol an ingredient

39:06

not in any of the vaccines

39:08

we asked about or the m m

39:10

r vaccine not given until

39:13

least one year of life one of them involved

39:15

antigen one of the studies not

39:17

that he's version that study even

39:19

says they cannot tell you what a vaccine the global

39:21

government didn't study them just a different

39:24

uh... a component of it and then finally the

39:27

last thing you provided incredibly

39:31

was a review from two thousand twelve the one

39:33

we looked at the four that looked at m

39:35

m r th america again amar on that we've asked about

39:37

the muscle not ingredient in the vaccines

39:39

andy cap

39:41

that the cap review we just read

39:43

from two thousand twelve so the

39:46

only reviewers study they provided

39:48

us that actually involved

39:51

single one of the vaccines given

39:54

the first six months of life was

39:57

a study by the institute of medicine that bound

40:00

we don't have a single study of whether deepak

40:02

does it doesn't called autism i

40:05

had an opportunity to the bows uh...

40:08

maybe the second or third leading back to all this

40:10

in the world today doctor kathryn edwards

40:13

in the case typically

40:15

about vaccines and autism actually you

40:17

see there you can see the medical textbook on that he's

40:19

one of the office on the same plot in

40:22

book you can see here right there with one of the

40:24

uh... the editors and uh... and

40:26

you can hear when i confronted her

40:28

about this issue what she had to say

40:31

about the state of the science with

40:33

regards to whether vaccines on cause autism again

40:35

the the issue they say they have studied thoroughly

40:38

and robustly than any other claim

40:40

vaccine

40:42

corn to your profile you have done most of the

40:44

critical trial i'd like to many

40:47

of the vaccines correct on market

40:52

so you're highly experienced

40:54

conductable trial correct

40:56

i'm highly experienced conducting

40:58

clinical trials

41:01

and you're familiar with many of the clinical trials

41:03

that relied upon to license many of the

41:05

vaccines currently on the market correct

41:08

i am

41:10

in europe

41:13

did the clinical trial relied upon to

41:15

license the vaccines that yeats received

41:18

many of which are still on the market

41:20

today

41:22

were they

41:23

designed to rule out

41:26

that the vaccine

41:31

causes autism

41:36

you've

41:39

entered me into answering the question the way

41:41

you want me to but i i think that

41:43

uh... that that i that's probably

41:45

the answer

41:46

is it is that your accurate

41:48

truthful testimony

41:52

that

41:55

in expert disclosures for this case

41:58

it asserts that among And on the

42:56

other

42:58

hand, I would like to ask you if you have any

43:02

evidence that the virus

43:05

is being caused by the virus? And whether NDRXB causes autism?

43:08

I do not have any evidence that it causes

43:10

autism nor that it does

43:12

not. And what about hip titers? Any

43:16

evidence one way or another whether it causes autism? What about Pravnoy

43:18

vaccine? Any evidence

43:21

one way or another? No, sir. And

43:24

how about various cell vaccines? Or whether

43:27

it does or doesn't cause autism? Part of MMR, but

43:29

not as varicella by itself, no,

43:31

sir. No studies that say

43:33

it does or no studies that say it doesn't.

43:36

Right. There

43:38

have been studies that

43:40

have found

43:41

an association between hepatitis

43:43

B vaccine and autism, correct?

43:46

Not studies that I feel are credible.

43:51

Okay. Which study

43:53

are you referring to

43:55

in the study?

44:00

Well, why don't you show me the study and then I'll see

44:03

whether I agree with that.

44:04

Ultimately, here's what it comes down to. Of

44:07

all the studies they've told you, they've done all these studies

44:09

of the vaccine program. They've only ever

44:11

looked at one vaccine, truly that's the

44:13

MMR vaccine. None of the other 16

44:15

vaccines given in the 72 doses. They've

44:18

only done studies on one of all of those

44:20

ingredients and that's the mercury that's no longer

44:22

in most of the vaccines. And

44:24

you still have 50 to 70% of parents

44:26

saying, I'm pretty sure it happened

44:29

right after the vaccine, that's when I lost my kid.

44:31

And I want to point out, get to the next video

44:33

and you can set it up, but I want to point this out. They

44:36

will tell you, well, that's just a knee jerk reaction

44:38

of a parent. They need something to blame. They

44:40

blame the vaccines because vaccines is something you're

44:42

giving your kids every day. I will assure

44:44

you, I have interviewed thousands of

44:46

these parents and these stories and

44:49

what they will end up telling you is it was the

44:51

last thing that they ever wanted to blame.

44:53

They listened to their doctors. They chased every

44:55

other red herring they could find for

44:58

an excuse. They wanted it to be their

45:00

DNA. Please let it be my

45:02

DNA. So there's nothing I had involved.

45:06

When they finally come to the conclusion that it's a

45:08

vaccine that they chose to give their

45:10

child, that is one of the darkest

45:12

days for every one of these parents that's ever

45:15

been through it because now I

45:17

did it. I gave my kids something that

45:19

I could have opted out of. I could have been against,

45:22

I could have done some reading on it. And now the

45:24

guilt is with them the rest of their

45:26

lives. I assure you. This

45:28

is not a go to jump to. I just

45:30

want to blame vaccines because the day

45:33

you come to that conclusion, you're

45:35

going to be blaming yourself

45:36

the rest of your life and no

45:38

one

45:39

makes that their first choice. So

45:41

when you have up to 70% of parents saying

45:43

it's the vaccine, these are parents in pain

45:46

that have looked for every other reason

45:48

there could have possibly been and they're

45:51

only left with one obvious conclusion.

45:54

So a lot of people say, well, how could this happen? How could our

45:56

regulators allow this to happen? 2000, there's

45:58

a congressional port that found... to most of the members

46:01

of the CDC and FDA vaccine

46:03

committees have substantial, substantial ties

46:05

to pharmaceutical industry. 2009, they find it again. And

46:08

here's the deposition again of Dr. Edwards, who

46:11

was one of the members of the five person data

46:13

safety monitoring board for the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine.

46:16

Isn't it true that you've also been an

46:18

advisor to Pfizer?

46:21

Yes, sir. I've been an advisor to Pfizer

46:24

and I've been working very,

46:27

very closely with Pfizer, particularly

46:29

with their COVID vaccines

46:32

and that's going over lots of reactions

46:35

and efforts of that. So yes, I am working and

46:37

being paid by Pfizer for the Pfizer

46:39

vaccine. You're

46:42

part of the data safety monitoring board

46:44

for the Pfizer COVID vaccine. That's what you

46:47

meant when you said that.

46:49

You're one of the only five members of that

46:51

data safety monitoring

46:53

board, the Pfizer

46:54

COVID-19 vaccine, right? Yes,

46:57

sir.

46:58

And that's supposed to be an independent

47:01

data safety monitoring board, correct? It

47:04

is an independent data safety monitoring board.

47:08

That's the board that

47:11

all of us in America are

47:13

hoping on and relying on is going to independently

47:16

make sure that safety is properly

47:19

assessed as the clinical trial

47:21

for that Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine is ongoing,

47:23

correct?

47:24

That's true. And let me tell

47:26

you that we have worked very hard to

47:29

put over this in the category of our

47:32

kids to do that in to each class as

47:34

comprehensively as we possibly can.

47:37

And since it's supposed to be independent, it's

47:39

clear that the members

47:41

of that independent data

47:43

safety monitoring board are in fact independent

47:47

of the pharmaceutical company. This

47:50

product is being valued, correct?

47:52

That's correct. But

47:57

this is going to be true then. directly

48:00

before becoming a

48:02

member of the independent Data Safety Modern

48:05

Board of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, you were

48:07

an advisor to Pfizer? Pfizer

48:10

pays me to evaluate

48:14

the safety of the vaccines because

48:16

I'm an expert. So I

48:18

do get paid to do the work that

48:20

I've been doing, but I've been doing it contraindly

48:23

and confidentially.

48:26

My question was, before

48:29

you became a member of the independent

48:32

Data Safety Modern Board of the Pfizer COVID-19

48:34

vaccine,

48:35

isn't it true that you were separate

48:38

before you held that independent position?

48:41

You were an advisor to

48:43

Pfizer.

48:45

Yes, sir. What I think that you're presuming

48:48

is that because I've been an advisor

48:52

makes me on their door

48:54

or makes me going to

48:56

say what they want me to say

48:59

that has is not and has never

49:01

been a part of my being.

49:04

I say what I believe based

49:07

on my expertise.

49:10

So you don't think that financial

49:13

incentives can sway

49:15

people's judgment at all?

49:18

It does not sway my judgment, sir.

49:20

Why bother having an independent Data Safety

49:23

Modern Board? Why doesn't Pfizer just have some of its

49:25

employees on it?

49:27

Because we are independent.

49:30

Meaning folks who are number advisors

49:32

to Pfizer.

49:33

We are independent from Pfizer

49:36

in this assessment.

49:37

The one thing to think about though, it's comical

49:40

in a way, but it's also it's deadly

49:43

serious because Dr. Edwards

49:45

was the vaccinologist

49:47

on that five member independent Data Safety Modern

49:49

Board who sat there evaluating

49:51

the data while the COVID-19 vaccine, Pfizer's

49:54

COVID-19 vaccine that's been given to

49:56

about 200 million Americans is being assessed

49:59

before it rolls out.

49:59

out and which put into the arms of people

50:02

across this country. You go and you inject

50:04

almost every healthy person with something you

50:07

only need to mess that up one time,

50:10

one time to break our society. We'll

50:12

move on to I guess we're

50:16

almost out of time. Final issue of abortion which

50:18

we're going to Mississippi tomorrow because

50:20

Aaron Siri managed to win

50:23

the biggest lawsuit in this space and return

50:25

the religious exemption to Mississippi. They

50:29

lost that ability to opt out of the program

50:32

in 1979 and just a couple

50:34

of months ago you managed to win that. Why

50:36

is it important? It's important for

50:38

people especially in the Bible belt that maybe

50:40

don't want aborted babies

50:43

being used in the processing, development,

50:45

and manufacturing of vaccines.

50:48

You're told well it was one baby in the 1960s,

50:51

Aaron Siri put Stanley Plotkin

50:53

on the stand. Let's see if it really was one baby.

50:57

In your work related to vaccines how

50:59

many fetuses have been part of that work?

51:03

My own personal work too.

51:06

I'm gonna hand you with the marked plaintiffs, exhibit 41.

51:08

Okay. Are

51:15

you familiar with this article

51:17

Dr. Plotkin? Yes.

51:28

Are you listed as an author on this article?

51:31

Yes.

51:36

This study took place at the Wistar Institute correct?

51:38

Yes. You were

51:40

at the Wistar Institute correct? Yes. How

51:45

many fetuses were used in the study

51:47

described in this article? Quite

51:50

a few. So this

51:53

study involved 74 fetuses

51:55

correct? I don't

51:57

remember exactly how many. To turn

51:59

to page twelve of the study.

52:06

Now seventy-six.

52:09

Seventy-six. And these

52:11

fetuses

52:13

were all three months or older

52:16

when aborted, correct? Yes. And

52:18

these were all normally developed fetuses, correct?

52:20

Yes. What organs

52:22

did you harvest from these fetuses? Well,

52:25

I didn't personally harvest any, but

52:28

a whole range of tissues

52:31

were harvested by

52:34

co-workers. And these

52:36

pieces were then cut up into little pieces, right?

52:39

Yes. And they were cultured?

52:42

Yes. Okay. Some

52:44

of the pieces of the

52:48

fetuses were pituitary gland that

52:51

were chopped up into pieces, okay,

52:54

included the lung of the fetuses? Yes.

52:57

Okay. Included the skin? Yes.

52:59

Kidney? Yes. Spleen?

53:01

Yes. Heart? Yes. And

53:05

tongue?

53:06

I don't recall,

53:09

but probably yes. So

53:11

I

53:13

just want to make sure I understand.

53:16

In your entire career, and this

53:20

was just one study, so I'm going

53:22

to ask you again, in your entire

53:24

career, how many fetuses have you worked with?

53:28

Well, I don't remember the exact number,

53:30

but quite a few when

53:32

we were studying them originally

53:35

before we decided to use them to make

53:37

vaccines. Do you

53:41

have any sense? I mean, this one study had seventy-six.

53:44

How many other studies did you have that you use the aborted fetuses

53:46

for? Oh, I don't remember how many.

53:50

Are you aware that one of the

53:53

objections to vaccination by the plaintiff

53:56

in this case is the

53:58

inclusion of aborted fetal

54:00

tissue in the development of

54:03

vaccines and the fact that it's actually part

54:05

of the ingredients of vaccines? Yeah, I'm

54:07

aware of those objections. The

54:10

Catholic Church has actually issued

54:12

a document on that which

54:14

says that individuals

54:16

who need the vaccine should receive the vaccines

54:19

regardless of the fact and

54:21

that on that I

54:24

think it implies that I am the

54:26

individual who will go to hell because

54:29

of the use of aborted

54:30

tissues which I am glad

54:33

to do. Okay, do you

54:35

know if the mother is Catholic? I have

54:37

no idea. Okay, do you

54:39

take issue with religious beliefs? Yes.

54:43

You've said that quote, vaccination is

54:45

always under attack by religious zealots who believe

54:47

that the will of God includes death

54:49

and disease. Yes. You stand by that statement?

54:52

I absolutely do. Okay, are you an atheist? Yes.

54:56

That's just some of the truths you can find at thehighwire.com

54:58

and the great work that Aaron Siri has been doing getting the

55:00

truth exposed. Hopefully

55:03

this will help you understand as you hear this conversation.

55:06

You hear attacks on people like Robert Kennedy Jr.

55:08

being said that he's lying when he says that the safety

55:10

trials haven't been done. Now you

55:13

know the truth. Spread the word. Thank

55:15

you. Thank you.

55:32

Well there's an audience of almost a thousand

55:34

people there that day and I just want to take

55:36

this moment to just express

55:38

how thankful I am for you

55:41

as an audience and how thankful

55:43

I am to have seen the journey that The High Wire

55:46

has been on over this last

55:48

you know six almost seven years

55:51

of bringing the truth in this very

55:53

very complicated issue. But when

55:55

we look back now, when we look

55:57

back when we started this

56:00

conversation, no one wanted to talk about

56:02

it, no politician would go near it. You certainly

56:04

wouldn't get to any sort of a political

56:06

convention that would allow the anti-vaxxers

56:09

onto the stage that label they like to put

56:11

on us. But now you have libertarian

56:14

conferences, we have Republican conferences.

56:16

I'm looking forward to seeing some Democrats,

56:19

Democratic conferences open up to this

56:21

conversation about health freedom

56:24

and body sovereignty. But we now

56:26

see the concept of

56:28

medical freedom and

56:29

untested vaccines and right

56:32

to choose when it comes to vaccines coming

56:34

out of the mouth of politicians

56:37

on our news channels. This is now a conversation

56:39

that has opened up. You're no longer totally

56:42

ridiculed any longer and the headlines

56:44

are saying exactly that. So

56:46

many of these news agencies have been towing

56:49

this line that vaccines are perfectly safe,

56:51

perfectly effective. The mountain of evidence

56:53

showing how safe they are, it's fallen

56:56

flat. People don't believe it anymore.

56:58

They're recognizing that they've got to return to

57:00

critical thinking. So I am so

57:03

thankful on this Thanksgiving here

57:05

in America, but also this is an international

57:08

celebration of the rebirth

57:11

of critical thinking, of skepticism

57:13

when it comes to science and medicine, especially

57:16

where billions of dollars are to be

57:18

made. Whether there's billions of dollars

57:21

being made, I think you might find someone

57:23

tucking a couple of inconvenient problems

57:26

under their mattress. Well, we're not

57:28

going to allow that to happen. You haven't

57:31

allowed that to happen. And by sharing the

57:33

work that we're doing here at the High Wire, you

57:35

have helped make the world a smarter

57:38

and better place. We're going to continue

57:40

that work. I want to express how thankful

57:42

I am for the incredible team I have here

57:45

at the High Wire. It literally, we

57:48

could not do this. I could not do this

57:50

show without my incredible

57:53

team, both here in the studio

57:55

and the international team of scientists

57:57

that contribute to all the evidence

57:59

and things.

57:59

that we bring and of course, Aaron

58:02

Siri and his legal team that

58:05

do such a brilliant job and there's

58:07

no one better capturing people

58:10

on the stand than Aaron Siri. I hope you had

58:12

as much fun as we did, sort of watching

58:14

how he really strings them

58:17

out and then just drops them off a cliff

58:20

of their own lives. There's so

58:22

much work to be done. We all, we

58:24

should take this moment to look around

58:27

our tables at our families, at our children

58:29

and ask ourselves, am

58:32

I going to leave this world with

58:34

the same opportunities that I came

58:36

into it with? That's what I ask myself

58:38

every day. And I am on a mission

58:41

every day to do everything I can

58:44

to know that when my time on this earth

58:46

is over

58:47

that my children are inheriting freedom

58:50

and liberty and the ability to

58:53

pursue their dreams and their

58:55

happiness the way they see fit, not

58:58

mandated on them by any

59:00

government or international organization.

59:03

We have more work to do on that front and

59:05

we're going to continue to do that work.

59:07

With your help, we are going to make

59:10

sure that humanity

59:12

is the beacon of light and hope and

59:14

not governments. To

59:17

that, I want to say thank you all for taking your

59:19

time. I hope it's probably

59:21

about time for that stuffing sandwich

59:23

with a side of turkey and gravy. That's

59:26

where I'm at now. I'm going to enjoy that.

59:29

Have a happy and beautiful Thanksgiving all

59:31

over the world. Let's celebrate our families

59:33

and dream into the future together. I'll see

59:36

you next week.

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you