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1:01

morning, good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you are out

1:04

there in the world, it's time for us all

1:06

to step out onto the high wire. Well,

1:09

we have a big fan here at

1:11

the high wire. Maybe if you're brand

1:13

new, you don't know about it. Novak

1:15

Djokovic has really been out

1:17

there. He's been forthright about his belief

1:20

that we should all be able to

1:22

decide what is and is not injected

1:24

into our bodies. It's a novel thought,

1:26

I know, and it's a bit of

1:28

a mind-blower for people around the world.

1:31

But we all watched as he was kicked out

1:33

of the Australian Open and many other of the

1:37

powerful tennis tournaments that are in

1:39

that circuit just because he refused

1:41

to get the COVID vaccine. Not

1:44

giving a lot of information, but just saying

1:46

that he just didn't think it was a

1:49

good idea for him. Of course, he's finally

1:51

back playing tennis now that the COVID pandemic

1:53

seems to be behind us. But

1:56

that doesn't mean that the ridicule has ended. In

1:58

fact, he's back at the Australian Open. open

2:00

and what's he getting heckled about? Take a

2:02

look at this. Full

2:05

match points. Man,

2:38

I love this guy. I've been

2:40

talking about style, someone yelling at

2:43

him right before he's about to

2:45

serve. Get vaccinated, man. And what

2:47

does he do? Serves up

2:49

an ace. Game, set, match,

2:53

lifetime achievement award right there for

2:55

no back joke mix. Now, what's

2:57

ironic about this whole story is

2:59

obviously he's got himself in the

3:01

middle of the

3:03

attention around the conversation of the COVID

3:06

vaccine. He's getting heckled in that audience.

3:08

But this week in the very same

3:10

week, one of the biggest hecklers he's

3:12

had is a top sports writer. And

3:15

this is a guy named Mike Dixon,

3:17

former Daily Mail tennis correspondent that gave

3:19

him a very hard time. Unfortunately,

3:22

this week he had a hard

3:24

time. He dropped dead suddenly in

3:26

the middle of the tournament. Journalists

3:28

who criticized Novak Djokovic's COVID vaccine

3:31

status dies suddenly. That term

3:33

that's become so popular all around the world

3:35

at the Australian Open. The article

3:37

goes out to point out a few of the

3:40

issue through various articles and on social

3:42

media. He denounced Mr. Djokovic's decision and

3:44

claimed that the Serbian tennis star had

3:47

tarnished his public image for refusing to

3:49

take the shot. In one of his

3:51

articles, he claimed that Mr. Djokovic had

3:53

trashed his reputation beyond repair, while in

3:55

another he wrote that he could ruin

3:58

his chances of becoming a champion. the

4:00

greatest of all times by refusing

4:02

to take the vaccine. Well,

4:05

Mr. Dickson suddenly collapsed and died last

4:07

week at the Grand Slam tournament in

4:10

Melbourne, Australia. According to his family, he

4:12

was just days away from his 60th

4:14

birthday, quite young. At

4:16

this time, it is unclear what exactly caused

4:19

Mr. Dickson's death. I

4:22

think this is an opportunity where

4:24

Novak probably could have made a

4:26

statement instead. He took the high

4:28

road. He tweeted condolences to Mike

4:30

Dickson, family, rest in peace,

4:33

great guy. But

4:36

just because Novak is sort of staying out

4:38

of the controversy, I don't think

4:40

we should. And I really want

4:42

to have this conversation because we're at this

4:44

point where you're ridiculed if

4:47

you want to talk about

4:49

why somebody died. And we're

4:51

all just absolutely mind blown

4:53

at this idea of sudden

4:56

adult death syndrome or

4:58

this died suddenly headline. We talk a

5:00

lot about it. We've never

5:02

heard that. Do you ever remember that? I mean, when

5:04

I look back to time, died suddenly is

5:07

not something doctors used to say. You

5:09

wouldn't sort of admit that we were talentless

5:11

as doctors at being able to determine what

5:13

actually happened here. And so

5:15

I think, especially for these people that

5:17

either called out people for not getting

5:19

their vaccines and ridiculed them and said

5:21

they wouldn't deserve to be called the

5:23

greatest of all times despite their tennis

5:25

record. As though any of this had

5:27

anything to do with tennis. If that

5:30

person suddenly drops dead, then

5:32

I think they've drawn the attention upon themselves

5:35

and should be a part of the

5:37

conversation. If you were getting a vaccine

5:39

and saying, watch me, here I go,

5:41

I'm doing what's right. And you made

5:43

yourself a poster child in the world

5:45

for being vaccinated. Then I think it's

5:47

okay that we watch your health. And

5:50

if you drop dead suddenly, I think

5:52

the first question should be, you know

5:54

that vaccine you were promoting, which was way

5:57

outside your understanding. You had no understanding of

5:59

the science. but that vaccine you

6:01

promoted and now suddenly the side

6:03

effect we're all worried about, which

6:05

is dropping dead suddenly from either

6:07

a stroke or myocarditis or some

6:10

anaphylactic reaction, which are all basically

6:12

understood as side effects even by

6:14

the CDC. When that happens,

6:16

I don't think we should be ridiculed

6:18

for bringing up the conversation. And,

6:21

you know, to sort of put an

6:23

exclamation point on that, this is what

6:25

is happening, right? We're all being blacklisted

6:27

for asking the obvious question. As I

6:30

pointed out, we now know in the

6:32

Hill article just a couple of weeks

6:34

ago, this is bigger than COVID. Why

6:37

are so many Americans dying early? This

6:39

was an article about the fact that

6:41

over 150,000 people are in

6:43

the excess mortality range in

6:49

the United States of America, meaning more than

6:51

usually die. I think they're comparing them to the

6:53

years between about 2015 and 19. They

6:57

took that average and said right last year

6:59

in 2023, there was 150,000 extra people dying.

7:05

If you think of the Vietnam War, I believe

7:07

it's 60 something thousand, 63, 67,000 people died in

7:12

the Vietnam War over all those years.

7:14

One of the bloodiest wars we've ever

7:16

known. It's tragic. Three times that just

7:19

died last year. And anyone,

7:21

like a program like this, that

7:23

dares to ask, could it possibly

7:26

be that product you gave enforced

7:28

on everybody back in 2020, I

7:30

mean, 2021? So

7:34

that's the question. Are we not allowed to ask

7:36

it? Should we be ridiculed for asking that question?

7:38

Well, there was a very interesting interview that

7:41

was done of a guy that seemed to

7:43

have reticently gotten the vaccine, but was talking

7:45

about his concern. This was a famous

7:48

body builder. Take a look at this. This is,

7:50

you know, I think this really gets to the

7:52

point and why this is such an important conversation.

7:54

Watch this. Did you get

7:56

the vaccine? I got the vaccine. Did you really?

7:58

Yeah. Even four.

8:01

Really? Yeah. Why?

8:04

Yeah, and also, Bru, you know how it is. It's the

8:06

same thing you go to a park. You're worried about your

8:08

heart? And you are with the wrong people. All of a

8:11

sudden, you might do something on this party that you don't

8:13

want to do because there's these people like, you know, you

8:15

should do it. So

8:19

I'm in this place also. I was in this place. We

8:21

don't need to say where it is exactly, but I was

8:23

there. And my friends said like, if we can get it,

8:25

you should get it, man. And I'm like...

8:27

You got peer pressure due to the VACs? Yeah. Is

8:29

that what you're saying? No. I

8:32

don't like... No. Yeah. Whatever. It

8:34

isn't what it is. When I think about it later

8:36

on, I'm like, what did I do, man? But... Oh

8:40

my God, this is constant to

8:42

weird conspiracy therapies because

8:45

I did blood cleaning twice after all

8:47

this. I did a plasma forosis

8:49

with taking out heavy metals and all that stuff.

8:52

Oh man, yeah, I did all this. I don't know. It's

8:54

just too controversial probably to say. Wait, no saying. Say it.

8:57

I went to the doctor and I did my blood work

8:59

again because I take my blood work all the time. And

9:01

then I showed to the doctor and we kind of see

9:03

these particles. And I'm like, what

9:05

is this? And then they... No way, dude. This

9:07

is from... Shut the f*** up. This is from

9:09

this. And I'm like, oh my God. This is

9:11

crazy as f*** because I know you're the kind

9:14

of guy who for sure you got your blood

9:16

work all the time. And then you're telling me

9:18

you got the thing and then you got your

9:20

blood work and then it was crazy. And yeah,

9:22

and this guy's also big into it. So he's

9:24

like, you need to do a plasma forosis now.

9:27

So they poke like a f*** needle

9:30

into your arm here, which is

9:33

like a pen, you know, like thick

9:35

like this, right? Unbelievable thick needle. And

9:37

they take all your blood out, put it

9:39

into this machine and then clean it and bring

9:41

it back. I did a D-dimer test and all

9:43

this. I don't know if you know what it

9:45

is. It's like this determines like the clotting of

9:47

your blood arteries and stuff like D-dimer. And like

9:49

my D-dimer was this and then after all this

9:52

it was that. And then, yeah, I did it.

9:54

So did it improve after you got that removal?

9:57

Yeah, twice. I Did it in six months period

9:59

like one time. The second time most expensive

10:01

and like yeah it's no fun men as

10:03

so yeah was so sucked into doctor was

10:05

like you need to do it man if

10:07

you wanna likes of hype after you took

10:09

these sorts bread no way to do it

10:11

is now yeah this was like that exceed.

10:16

When. Man and stories telling their right And

10:19

this is a guy that got his blood

10:21

checked all the times said look at my

10:23

blood and I make some parrot right after

10:25

I got the vaccine he says I found

10:28

all this class and particles in their the

10:30

doctors going to says stats for this vaccine

10:32

does you gotta clean your blood are really

10:34

a fascinating story by someone that sealed being

10:37

very candid about his thoughts and be peer

10:39

pressured into it's I think it's just less

10:41

than thirty light, thirty days or so. About

10:43

a month after that interview or this was

10:46

posted. Fans mourn. A Jealous Statics

10:48

Star: Joe Lindner After sudden death

10:50

at age thirty, The Fittest Movements

10:52

paints a bid to the late

10:54

bodybuilding influencer. that Guy you're just

10:57

watching Talked about it. Ah, Joe

10:59

Lindner Death you to Bodybuilding star

11:01

known as Just Statics dies from

11:03

aneurism. age thirty. Ah,

11:05

How many of these stories are out

11:08

there? how many aren't telling the story

11:10

on videos? and how many people are

11:12

being hostile, silenced, or ridiculed for daring

11:14

to ask the question? Well here on

11:16

the high wire, were never afraid to

11:19

ask the question we've been asking at

11:21

the whole time. All the relevant questions

11:23

and those questions are getting louder and

11:25

bigger and more more people are waking

11:27

up for the reality that we were

11:30

allied to. And. Our just

11:32

want us to the point out that

11:34

when we do this work here we

11:36

take it very seriously. We are not

11:38

reporting to you throughout this. Things that

11:40

we feel a hunch is that we

11:42

have. We been bringing scientific evidence to

11:44

every conversation and that is why would

11:46

people say have no idea how the

11:48

high wire has been so accurate all

11:50

this time? What you don't see is

11:52

our an international body of scientists, some

11:55

of them whistle blowers that are in

11:57

the top universities and medical establishment around

11:59

the world. Feeding us for support,

12:01

live with with stories and letting us

12:03

know where we need to look for

12:05

something. Ah, we've got some brilliant researchers

12:08

and of course we have won the

12:10

most powerful ah I'm legal teams is

12:12

ever sort of addressed the government and

12:14

government to see here in the United

12:17

States of America. We've won lawsuits against

12:19

the Cdc, The Ft, A Health and

12:21

Human Services, the National Institutes of Health

12:23

for everybody out there. Every time I

12:26

have a news reporter saying that you

12:28

spread misinformation said really. You

12:30

are aware that I've won lawsuits against

12:32

the Nih Cdc at the Age and

12:34

Health and Human Services. Have you ever

12:36

tried winning a lawsuit with misinformation? It

12:39

doesn't happen, Especially lawsuits against the government.

12:41

The United States were onto something here

12:43

and we're sharing with you and we're

12:45

never going to stop doing that. I

12:47

have a really big are and powerful

12:49

is somewhat controversial show Today I want

12:51

to give a warning that we give

12:54

every once in awhile fraud. You parents

12:56

out there that use this show as

12:58

you know, sort of a home. Schooling

13:00

class or today. I would really

13:02

prefer because there is some adult

13:05

conversations about to take place based

13:07

on education and other things that

13:09

I think you should watch this

13:11

show by yourself or as and

13:14

decide that's appropriate of for your

13:16

children are I'd give you that

13:18

warning coming up on. Really looking

13:20

forward to an interview with the

13:23

founder of Gays Against Groomers Arm.

13:25

This is a conversation that I've

13:27

been want to have some time

13:29

I've. You want to know or serious

13:32

what is that conversation going to be?

13:34

Stay tuned, it's coming right up. But

13:36

first time for. The. Jackson.

13:38

Report. In.

13:49

Our just that video of the body

13:51

builder jealous static. You know we watch

13:54

these videos, we see them go by

13:56

and sometimes I feel like you know,

13:58

I almost forget that. This is just

14:00

as beautiful human being so beautifully sharing their

14:03

laughing, clearly alarmed ah out what had happened,

14:05

doing everything he thinks he can and Ls

14:07

put it out there right? Of course I'm

14:09

sure some will attack the cell and say

14:12

clearly take the your blood out and sign

14:14

a clean It is what killed a man

14:16

who knows who knows. But these conversations that

14:18

are happening all around the world and I

14:21

think this is what being a free country

14:23

is all about. We're supposed to be have

14:25

this conversation. They should be debates, we should

14:27

be putting it on tables. Even a good.

14:30

Argument Once in awhile. This is what

14:32

a free Country is all about. Until

14:34

we get to the bottom of these

14:37

issues. You know it hidden in this

14:39

whole conversation. We're talking about excess mortality

14:41

and this conversation surrounds. or is it

14:43

the all these individuals and it's heartbreaking

14:46

story? They're actually heartbreaking and. Almost

14:48

no government wants to talk about this. And.

14:50

One of the conversation in his ex

14:52

nortel at excess mortality is. What?

14:54

Happens you have expecting mother's

14:57

during the pandemic. Well. They.

14:59

Didn't do too well and this is

15:01

the headline here. And Twenty Twenty Three.

15:03

That kind of says it all. Us

15:05

maternal mortality hit highest level since nineteen

15:07

Sixty five. And. Fortunately, we have

15:09

some researchers that look at the Cdc

15:11

data. The Cdc.it's a long time to

15:13

come out. They sat on the set

15:15

of for very long time or they

15:18

release that. We have independent researchers medical

15:20

professionals now that are looking at this

15:22

data. This was the article that was

15:24

published says ask why Four Hundred and

15:26

Twenty Nine Mom's died. And. They

15:28

looked at the Cdc data and they wrote

15:30

this. We. analyze that data assisted

15:32

by a programmer and an actuary and

15:34

found a disturbing trend of the one

15:37

thousand two hundred five mothers who died

15:39

in are within forty two days a

15:41

pregnancy and twenty twenty one four hundred

15:43

twenty nine had coburn nineteen on the

15:46

death certificate as the primary or contributing

15:48

cause a three hundred and twenty one

15:50

percent increase in coded pregnancy deaths from

15:52

the first wave and twenty twenties by

15:55

comparison total covered deaths in the united

15:57

states rose a relatively modest twenty percent

15:59

one 15

16:01

as much as in pregnant women.

16:04

So there's a lot to unpack there,

16:06

but basically what they're saying is during

16:09

the first COVID case, we had the first COVID

16:11

case in January, 2020 in the US here, and

16:15

it took almost a year until December, 2020 to

16:17

get that vaccine out. So they're saying, we

16:20

really didn't see these maternal deaths at that

16:22

time. And if we look at the chart

16:25

that accompanies this article, this was a chart

16:27

that was created specifically for this conversation, you

16:29

can see there, the orange is

16:31

what we're looking at. Those are maternal deaths

16:34

caused by COVID-19 on the death certificate. So

16:36

you can see really throughout 2020 and

16:38

even into 2022, the Omicron, we're

16:41

not seeing anything with maternal deaths. It's just

16:43

in that one spot there, and it's a

16:46

big red flashing signal. And people

16:48

will say, well, those are maternal deaths caused

16:50

by COVID-19. Well, remember we had John Bode

16:52

went on last week and he looked at

16:54

the death certificates from Massachusetts, Minnesota, and it

16:57

found that a lot of these were COVID

16:59

vaccine deaths. They talked about that on the

17:01

death certificate, but they didn't get coded. They

17:03

got coded as COVID-19 deaths

17:05

from this. So there's

17:07

another aspect of this whole conversation. Put up

17:10

that graph really quick because what you're pointing

17:12

out here is really

17:14

fascinating, right? We know COVID started

17:16

running rampant in 2020. It

17:19

was claiming lots of lives. We had

17:21

no vaccine, but while that was happening

17:23

and women were pregnant in 2020, we

17:26

weren't seeing them die from COVID, but

17:29

suddenly in 2021, same amount of pregnant

17:31

women, all of a sudden more of

17:33

them are dying from COVID.

17:36

And that's what the death certificates are saying,

17:38

which is really weird. Why didn't you die

17:40

from COVID when it was sweeping across the

17:43

nation, but a year later? It's really an

17:45

interesting point. I'm sure we know where this

17:47

is going. And at

17:49

that time in 2020, hospitals

17:51

were packed. We're told nursing homes

17:54

were closed down. You couldn't go visit grandma,

17:56

no vaccine, nothing to do, except go home and maybe

17:59

wait till you can. breathe very well. And

18:01

you're not seeing maternal mortality spike, right just

18:03

in that certain time. So what happened at

18:05

that time when those orange spikes went up?

18:07

Well, here in April of 2021, is

18:10

the headline, CDC recommends pregnant

18:12

women get coronavirus vaccine. Now

18:15

at the time, the CDC was making just

18:17

a mild recommendation. And this was still a

18:19

new shot under EUA. This was Woodlinski.

18:22

And so, you know, you

18:24

can imagine not maybe not a lot of

18:26

pregnant women went out there and rushed out

18:28

there and got it. But August of 2021,

18:31

and that's where that big spike happens, it

18:33

becomes official. Here's the headline, CDC guidance,

18:35

now official pregnant people should get coronavirus

18:38

vaccine. So that is when it goes

18:40

into overdrive. So let's go back to

18:42

this article here. And the

18:44

authors write this in 2022, after

18:47

the Omicron variant took over and

18:49

vaccinations slowed. 88 women

18:52

died from COVID in or within 42 days

18:54

of pregnancy, about one fourth the number

18:57

of 2021. Erased was the 40% increase

19:00

in maternal mortality of a year

19:02

earlier. Now in the article, they go

19:04

on to suggest or they lean towards the

19:07

cause for this was possibly something called

19:09

BADE. This is vaccine associated enhanced disease.

19:11

So for those of you who haven't

19:14

heard about this, we covered this in

19:16

the show in 2021 when they were

19:18

talking about some of the original problems

19:21

they had with this COVID vaccine development.

19:23

And it's interesting because I look back

19:25

at this timestamp, we covered it in

19:27

August of 2021, the very month that

19:30

maternal mortality spiked, take a look. One of

19:32

the things that we're not hearing a lot

19:34

about is the unique potential

19:37

safety problem of coronavirus

19:39

vaccines. This was first

19:42

found in the early 1960s

19:44

with respiratory syncytial virus vaccines.

19:47

And it was done here in Washington

19:49

with the NIH and Children's National

19:51

Medical Center. That some of those kids

19:53

who got the vaccine actually did worse.

19:56

And I Believe there were two deaths in the consequence of that study

19:58

because what I'm saying is that we're not getting. It happens

20:00

with certain types of respiratory virus vaccine

20:03

you get immunized and the when you

20:05

get actually supposed to the virus you

20:07

get this kind of paradoxical. Immunity.

20:10

Hansman phenomenon. When we started developing

20:12

a Corona virus vaccines and our

20:14

colleagues we noticed and laboratory animals

20:16

that they started the shows some

20:18

of the same and mean pathology

20:21

that resembled what had happened fifty

20:23

years earlier. Since I said oh

20:25

my god this is gonna be

20:27

problematic. Nice clinical trials are not

20:29

going to go quickly because of that

20:31

immune a house with it's gonna take

20:34

time. Okay, so mute enhanced. Remember

20:36

this can be called a bunch of

20:38

different things. It can be called antibody

20:40

dependent enhancements, Immune Enhancement I Disease enhancement,

20:42

Pathogenic primates. All those mean the same

20:45

thing where the body is primed to

20:47

over react when it comes in contact

20:49

with the virus and thereby potentially selling

20:51

the house that receive the vaccine. That

20:53

was the warning. Now when we finally

20:55

saw the Mercy Use authorization being applied

20:57

for which is the first time we

21:00

were going to see what had happened

21:02

in the trials and whether or not

21:04

they. Had. Covered this disease and

21:06

he has been are immune enhancement

21:08

issue. We reported this that it

21:11

was shocking to find that in

21:13

it. This is what they said

21:15

about immune enhancements, however, risk of

21:18

vaccine enhanced disease What Peter Hotez

21:20

and a high wire been warning

21:22

about overtime potentially associated with waning

21:25

immunity remains unknown and needs to

21:27

be evaluated further. An ongoing clinical

21:29

trials and an observational studies that

21:32

could be conducted following operas a

21:34

sin. And or licensor. I

21:36

mean, just say about wouldn't you're seeing it all

21:39

play out right now How reckless the F the

21:41

A is. I. mean

21:43

it's amazing looking back those mom is sort

21:45

of what i said atop the sale we

21:47

have such an incredible track record because the

21:49

work the you been doing and scientists investigators

21:52

we have all around the world but just

21:54

reflecting on that again for anybody to this

21:56

is new we went to the emergency use

21:58

authorization this is what a the

22:00

vaccine to be released early before

22:02

the safety trials were over saying

22:04

basically it was a right to

22:06

try and our biggest concern at

22:08

that time was this immune enhancement

22:10

or disease enhancement issue that they

22:12

had seen in animal trials for

22:15

decades of COVID vaccines. It was

22:17

a problem they couldn't seem to

22:19

get around and Peter Hotez himself

22:21

who's pro this vaccine now he

22:23

got tens of millions of

22:25

dollars after making that statement in front of our

22:27

Congress to his University

22:29

Baylor University here in Texas and he

22:31

ended up changing his tune and saying oh actually

22:33

they can do it faster I'm perfectly happy with

22:36

this vaccine he got a bunch of them and

22:38

he's looked like crap ever since but the point

22:40

being though that this is what was shocking to

22:42

us they knew they had a side effect that

22:45

caused the animals to die and have life threatening

22:47

illness because the vaccine appeared to be making the

22:49

virus worse and when we

22:51

looked and looked at these trials thought that

22:53

certainly was the one thing you weeded out

22:56

right in your trials you were looking for

22:58

it the FDA admitted it hadn't even looked

23:00

at that issue and that there was nothing

23:02

the trials that gave them any information on

23:04

that and to say to the world we're

23:06

gonna let you all take it ultimately our

23:09

president Biden when he gets into office is

23:11

gonna force you all to take it and

23:13

after you've taken it maybe it would be

23:15

a good idea to see if this disease

23:18

enhancement phenomena exists that could kill you I

23:20

mean it's that type of recklessness that is

23:22

mind-blowing it's everything we speak out against I

23:24

just want to take this moment Jeffrey and

23:27

I hate to interrupt but folks this

23:29

is why we do what we do do

23:31

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continue to do the great work that you're

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doing, Jeffrey. So back to the story, disease

26:58

enhancement. It was something that was the biggest

27:00

warning we had here on the show. And

27:03

frankly, this is one of the first articles

27:05

that has brought this term up now in

27:07

over a year. So it's interesting. I'm not

27:09

saying it exists. Obviously, we're going to have

27:12

to get more studies, but it is fascinating

27:14

that this term is coming back around and

27:16

wonder if we're about to start hearing more

27:18

about it. Right.

27:20

And we're putting these facts out, Del, on

27:23

our network here in hopes that obviously

27:25

the public is going to watch this,

27:27

but in hopes that government officials, politicians,

27:29

people in key positions in universities and

27:31

medical centers are going to pick this

27:33

up and do something with it. Yeah.

27:36

And so because really expecting mothers

27:39

had a really hard time, as we saw by

27:41

that chart, for some reason during

27:43

the vaccine rollout when they were recommending to get

27:45

the vaccine. And not only did

27:47

they have a hard time, but their children

27:49

had a hard time too. Let's look at

27:51

OpenVerse. This is the vaccine adverse event reporting

27:53

system. And we can see Reports

27:56

of miscarriages and stillbirth post

27:58

COVID vaccine. Now. Look

28:00

April. A starting in April

28:02

that's where the recommendation happened by the city

28:05

seat of towards pregnant women get vaccines and

28:07

then an August we have that spike So

28:09

even that that basically tracks the same way

28:11

as maternal deaths. And if you look at

28:14

twenty twenty one is a whole. There's

28:16

a big problem there. Oh My. God. I

28:18

mean that is a rocket ship. red line

28:20

straight off almost off the chart. And

28:22

so this is what we're talking about

28:25

here. It's not just one data point

28:27

or through data points for triangulating these

28:29

issues. And. On I was

28:31

not other grabbers that raffle we see

28:33

gonna look at this post. we could

28:35

just grabbed him and across this is

28:37

any one that had a stillbirth reporting

28:39

it to the Cdc system. Look how

28:42

many reports there used to be under

28:44

five hundred you know in there and

28:46

then all of a sudden boom. It

28:48

absolutely explodes when right after the vaccine

28:50

is introduced. You know a bit of

28:52

anomaly. And here's the point. Jeffrey, here's

28:55

the points. As we said before, we

28:57

don't have evidence. There's no way to

28:59

prove that the vaccine. Is causing that's

29:01

But we certainly should be asking a

29:03

question. But here is what is so

29:05

shocking That is a government website. The

29:07

Cdc in As and I, it's in

29:10

the At the are all staring at

29:12

that exact sorts of this. This fire

29:14

worker explodes fire. Straight up in the

29:16

sky is one. It's one, one explodes

29:18

and it's babies being delivered to early

29:20

and die. And we're now talking about

29:23

that. The pregnant women themselves, a spike

29:25

jumping up right in the same year.

29:27

And if you look around the world

29:29

steps that happening. all around the

29:31

world's was not the whether it's

29:33

not something is not a is

29:35

that some pollution is just suddenly

29:37

got released york city your town

29:39

for your country is happening it's

29:41

a worldwide phenomenon how many things

29:43

that the entire world do exactly the

29:45

same that would have the same

29:47

exact diabolical results and the fact

29:49

that was definitely not even on

29:51

the table or insincere races at all

29:54

is that it just might have

29:56

been that products we made everybody

29:58

takes there's no studies be on

30:00

it, except for this one you're pointing

30:02

out, not done or paid for by

30:04

any government agency in the world. That

30:06

is what is so egregious right now.

30:09

That is what is so phenomenally criminal,

30:11

is that an obvious question should be

30:13

there, it should be investigated, and our

30:15

government is covering it up. Pregnant

30:19

women used to be the last people that

30:21

would ever get an intervention because of the

30:24

vulnerabilities of the child and the mother. And

30:26

so, like Peter Hotez said, that during the

30:28

COVID development of the

30:30

vaccine, we needed time to do this. They

30:33

eventually settled on about 320 something days to

30:35

get that vaccine out. Gavi is now saying

30:37

they want to do it in 100 days

30:40

or less. But the problem is, no long-term

30:42

studies, and they can't possibly know because they're

30:44

not even looking for it. So here's independent

30:46

researchers not associated with the US government that

30:49

are looking at some of the long-term issues for the

30:51

children born to these mothers that have

30:53

had the COVID vaccine. And this is

30:55

a mouse study or a rat study,

30:57

but regardless, there's some findings here that

30:59

are really concerning. Prenatal exposure

31:02

to COVID-19 mRNA, this is

31:04

Pfizer's vaccine, induces autism-like

31:06

behaviors in male neonatal rats.

31:09

So it goes on to say, our findings

31:11

reveal that Pfizer's vaccine

31:13

significantly alters WNT gene expression

31:15

and BDNF levels in both

31:17

male and female rats, suggesting

31:20

a profound impact on key neurodevelopmental pathways.

31:22

So let's pause right there for a

31:25

minute and unpack that, because we're talking some medical

31:27

jargon here that a lot of viewers probably are

31:30

going to keep up with. So

31:32

let's jump out to another research

31:34

study. What is a WNT signaling

31:36

pathway? Because they're saying that this

31:38

significantly alters it, this vaccine. So

31:40

we go to this study, WNT

31:43

signaling in neuronal maturation and synaptogenesis.

31:45

It says the WNT signaling pathway

31:47

plays a role in the development

31:49

of the central nervous system, and

31:51

growing evidence indicates that WNTs also

31:53

regulate the structure and function of

31:55

the adult nervous system. WNT

31:58

components are key regulators of a variety of different ways. of

32:00

developmental processes including embryonic patterning,

32:03

cell specification, and cell polarity.

32:06

Kind of a big deal, so you don't want to really screw around

32:08

with those. So let's go back to the Pfizer

32:11

COVID vaccine autism study. The researchers say

32:13

this, notably male rats

32:15

exhibited pronounced autism-like behaviors characterized

32:17

by a marked reduction in

32:19

social interaction and repetitive patterns

32:21

of behavior. They go on

32:23

to say furthermore there is

32:25

a substantial decrease in neuronal

32:27

count in critical brain regions

32:29

indicating potential neurodegeneration or altered

32:32

neurodevelopment. Male rats also demonstrated

32:34

impaired motor performance evidenced

32:36

by reduced coordination and agility. So

32:39

these researchers go on to say that hey this

32:41

is just a wrap study, it's not one to

32:43

one for humans, but more research needs to be

32:45

done, long-term studies need to be done, because

32:48

no one's doing them. Pfizer's not doing them, the

32:50

U.S. government is not setting out to do these.

32:52

These are researchers that are just looking into this

32:54

because of their own curiosity and this is what

32:56

they're finding. So this is why we're reporting this

32:58

because we need other researchers to step up here

33:00

and do the job the government's not doing. Absolutely,

33:03

it's really disturbing and this goes back

33:05

right, this is that question a lot

33:07

of people have. Well

33:09

what about the other vaccines, you know this is the

33:11

COVID vaccine, what about the other vaccines, all

33:14

sorts of studies like this too on

33:16

the other vaccines that ask the question.

33:18

And when we've looked into it with

33:20

all of our research you cannot find

33:22

any ability for science to refute, to

33:25

truly refute the idea that vaccines are

33:27

contributing to autism. And once again, when

33:29

does autism start going like this from

33:31

one in 10,000 to now one in

33:33

roughly 30, exactly at the point

33:35

where the vaccine program starts exploding.

33:38

So you know there's a smoking gun, but

33:40

you know whether or not it's truly a

33:43

smoking gun, it is definitely a signal,

33:45

which is all science has to look at.

33:47

It's the only key bunch you have. Is

33:49

there something that's sparking off at a given

33:52

specific time and what should we

33:54

look at that let lit that

33:56

fuse. That's what we think needs

33:58

to be done. And ironically

34:00

or shockingly, there's one product that

34:03

keeps being left out of that

34:05

investigation. Right.

34:08

And looking at the media today, if you

34:10

go on Twitter or X, or you just

34:12

read the headlines, there's so many polarizing events

34:14

happening in the world today, seemingly appearing out

34:17

of nowhere for people watching

34:19

it. The conversation surrounding gender, the

34:21

sexualization of children, and this evaporating

34:24

idea of parental consent around all

34:26

of this is creating a

34:28

lot of division. And if you don't know what I'm talking

34:30

about, take a look at this video. I

34:42

fired up parents and students attended a

34:44

school board meeting on a controversial topic.

34:46

Should kids in school learn about gender

34:48

identity? There

34:53

is now a war on children

34:55

happening within our K-12 school system.

34:58

Parents flared over books on gender

35:00

and sex that some parents are

35:02

calling porn. You want to know what it

35:04

has in it? Saldamy, rape,

35:07

and drug use. Please stop the

35:10

sexual grooming of our children by

35:12

these types of books and illustrations.

35:14

A controversial children's book teaching graphic

35:17

sex acts, complete with illustrations, making

35:19

the rounds in school libraries and

35:21

classrooms across the country, leaving parents

35:24

and communities outraged. If you don't

35:26

want to hear it in a

35:28

school board meeting, watch your children

35:31

be able to

35:41

check it out of the school system. This

35:43

book is for children 10 years of

35:45

age and up. It

35:49

details explicitly with pornographic

35:52

images, homosexual sex, lesbian

35:55

sex, straight

35:57

sex. I'm

36:00

going to interrupt you at this point. It sounds like

36:02

you have a concern about a book. I don't understand

36:04

how it's appropriate for kids and it's not appropriate for

36:06

the school board. You made it

36:08

abundantly clear that you will continue to pursue

36:10

questionable subject matter without parental inclusion. It

36:13

is a controversial topic that has fueled

36:15

a lot of backlash whether to require

36:17

teachers to address students by the pronouns

36:19

they prefer. Send emails to

36:22

students without parental consent asking

36:24

if the children want to be known by

36:26

another name or gender. Parents say

36:28

this is an absolute betrayal on their ability

36:31

to raise their children how they want to.

36:33

I want to give a media of the parents

36:36

what her gender identity

36:38

means for her and her family. Not

36:41

from the book. My daughter went home

36:43

crying, shaking, so afraid that she could

36:45

turn into a boy. I just got off the

36:47

phone with my wife who took my

36:49

9 and 7 year old boys to

36:52

the doctor today. The first

36:54

thing this woman asks her is

36:56

if he identifies as a boy, a girl,

37:00

gender fluid or non-violent. My son,

37:02

he's never heard of any of that s*** before. So

37:05

what are you trying to play

37:08

the f*** with? See

37:11

in his head? Story books that teach 5,

37:14

6 and 7 year old children that they

37:17

can change from a boy to a girl

37:19

or that their sex is assigned or perhaps

37:21

miss assigned at birth. The day my daughter

37:23

shared with her guidance counselor that she felt

37:26

like a boy. The counselor immediately affirmed this

37:28

new identity. From then on the counselor continued

37:30

to have one on one meetings with my

37:32

daughter without my knowledge. My daughter changed very

37:35

quickly, was bullied. This was a time when

37:37

she needed me the most and you kept

37:39

it a secret from me. Treating every parent

37:41

as a potential threat to their kids

37:43

is wrong. It is my job to teach

37:45

my kids about sex. It's y'all's

37:48

job to help teach about reading, writing, arithmetic. them

38:00

into your insane ideological cult. It's just the

38:02

idea that boys are girls and girls are

38:04

boys. Disturbing footage surface of a

38:06

drag queen performing in front of

38:08

infants, yes infants. Now

38:10

does anybody in this room know how

38:13

to twerk? And then

38:15

you just move your bum

38:17

up and down like that

38:19

and that's twerking. Robbing kids

38:21

of their innocence in America

38:23

as we allow diversity, inclusion

38:25

and inequity to dominate our

38:27

school. I quit.

38:29

I quit being a cog in a machine

38:32

that tells me to push highly politicized

38:34

agendas on our children, leave this district,

38:36

protect our children or get out of

38:38

the way. Jeffrey,

38:45

let me just take a moment. I just

38:47

want to say to our audience, I want

38:49

to be perfectly clear. This is a very

38:51

controversial issue and what we're going to talk

38:53

about, you know, this is

38:55

the United States of America, live and

38:57

let live. If you're an adult, however

38:59

you want to express yourself, you

39:02

know, as long as it doesn't hurt other

39:04

people, that is perfectly fine. I love you.

39:06

You're a brother, you're a sister or whatever

39:08

you want to identify as. But the question

39:10

we're going to be asking right now is

39:13

what do we teach our children around

39:15

these issues? And again, I don't think we

39:17

should be afraid to be having these very

39:20

difficult conversations and putting it on the table.

39:23

This is what we're going to do

39:25

here now. We mean no offense to

39:27

anybody. We're asking what is safe for

39:29

the children. Thank you. Yeah,

39:32

and so there's a lot of offshoots to

39:34

this conversation to focus on, but we're going

39:36

to focus on the one that's grabbing the

39:38

most headlines right now. And that is around

39:40

the World Health Organization. And they announced new

39:42

guidelines just last month. This was the

39:45

actual announcement. WHO announces the development of

39:47

a guideline on the health of trans

39:49

and gender diverse people. And then

39:51

shortly after that, they announced their board members.

39:54

This is the announcement right here, guideline development

39:56

group is what they called it. And

39:59

shortly after that. the headlines erupted.

40:01

Half of the WHO's Transgender Health Committee

40:03

members have no medical background and majority

40:06

are activists. You go into the article

40:08

it reads half the members of the

40:10

WHO's Transgender Health Policy Committee are not

40:12

qualified medical experts and most are gender

40:15

activists. Of the 21 member panel

40:17

who have been invited to help formulate guidelines

40:19

that will shape how countries treat gender dysphoria,

40:21

11 have no formal medical

40:23

training, seven are trans themselves, 10 have no,

40:26

10 have a medical

40:28

background and of those eight are

40:30

doctors. The rest are a mixture

40:32

of activists, social justice advocates, human

40:35

rights lawyers, STD researchers and policy

40:37

advisors. Several are also members of

40:39

the World Professional Association for Transgender

40:42

Health, WPATH, a nonprofit dedicated to

40:44

promoting medical treatments for gender dysphoria

40:46

which has been accused of being

40:48

too pro-medication. So let's look at

40:50

what some of them said. One

40:52

of the panelists is a controversial

40:54

Canadian trans tick-tocker who has co-written

40:56

a study that said puberty blockers

40:58

and hormone therapies ought to be

41:00

treated as a default option for

41:03

children with gender dysphoria. Another member

41:05

believes that transitioning causes no health

41:07

problems and claims the only actual

41:09

side effects of getting a sex

41:11

change are a significantly improved quality

41:13

of life and trans joy. Here

41:16

is the group WHO chose

41:19

and you can look at

41:21

this entire group here and here are

41:23

the ones who aren't medical professionals with

41:25

the circles on them. So you can obviously

41:28

you know just by this conversation here you

41:30

can see that there is not consensus

41:33

across the board. You have articles already

41:35

coming out here. This is the Washington

41:38

Examiner. They basically highlighted a

41:40

letter by a woman named Reem

41:42

al-Salam. Reem al-Salam is the United

41:44

Nations Special Rapporteur on Violence Against

41:46

Women and Girls. She wrote a

41:48

letter directly to the WHO Director

41:52

General Tedros saying amongst

41:54

other things this and this is the

41:57

article right here UN Women's Rights Leader

41:59

criticizes WHA shows transgender health policy.

42:01

She says, it says in

42:03

the article, Al-Salam also highlighted that from the

42:05

21-person group, not one appears

42:07

to represent a voice of caution

42:10

for medicalizing youth with gender dysphoria

42:12

or the protection of female-only spaces.

42:15

And you can see here, bringing back

42:17

from our last segment, the CDC jumps

42:19

right into this female-only spaces and erasing

42:21

those. Here's the headline, CDC erases women

42:24

from new vaccine guidance, now uses general

42:26

neutral pregnant people. That was from a

42:28

while back. But you can see this

42:30

is infiltrating a lot of different parts

42:33

of society. But the backlash

42:35

was pretty fierce for the

42:37

WHO when they announced that. So they actually had

42:39

to come out on January 15 with

42:41

an update or, in their words, the

42:44

frequently asked questions on the developmental guidelines.

42:46

And they wrote this in there, the

42:49

scope will cover adults only and not

42:51

address the needs of children and adolescents.

42:53

Because on review, the evidence

42:55

base for children and adolescents is

42:57

limited and variable regarding the longer

42:59

term outcomes of gender-affirming care for

43:01

children and adolescents. So they

43:04

were spotlighted, clearly scared, getting

43:06

pushback, forced to step away

43:08

from the kids. But

43:10

here in America, we're going full steam

43:12

ahead. This is the American Academy of

43:14

Pediatrics in their own journal. This

43:17

is the headline of the article that

43:19

they have posted, prohibition of gender-affirming care

43:21

as a form of child maltreatment, reframing

43:23

the discussion. So they want to reframe

43:26

how people think about this. They

43:29

says, this article has two main aims.

43:31

One, to refute the idea that gender-affirming

43:33

care at GAC is child

43:35

maltreatment and to demonstrate how

43:37

withholding GAC is harmful to

43:40

children and amounts to state-sanctioned

43:42

medical neglect and emotional abuse.

43:45

So they're going hard in the other direction

43:47

and saying, if you don't do this for

43:49

kids, it's medical

43:51

neglect and emotional abuse. So

43:53

obviously, to

43:56

say polarizing division is not even

43:58

accurate, there's hard polarizing division. here

44:00

in this conversation. And you can see

44:02

it even in the legislation. So this

44:04

is just recently, Ohio became the 23rd

44:07

state to really throw their hat in

44:09

the ring here. Ohio bends gender affirming

44:11

care and restricts transgender athletes despite GOP

44:13

governors veto. They joined 22 other states,

44:16

you can see by this map here,

44:18

who have restricted gender affirming care. Those

44:21

are in red. So one of those

44:23

states is Missouri. They did so, they

44:25

passed laws on this

44:28

topic after an internal investigation started

44:30

from a whistleblower. Here's one of

44:32

the headlines, Missouri officials investigate transgender

44:34

youth clinic. This is one of

44:36

the biggest youth clinics, transgender youth

44:38

clinics in the state. And

44:41

a whistleblower came forward with an affidavit.

44:44

And this is really what it said in

44:46

here. Let's look at just some of what

44:48

was said. During my time at the center,

44:50

I personally witnessed center healthcare providers lie to

44:53

the public and to parents of patients about

44:55

the treatment or lack of treatment and the

44:57

effects of treatment provided to children at the

44:59

center. I witnessed staff at the center provide

45:02

puberty blockers and cross hormones to children without

45:04

complete informed parental consent and without an appropriate

45:06

and accurate assessment in the needs of the

45:08

child. I witnessed children experience shocking injuries from

45:11

the medication the center prescribed. And I saw

45:13

the center make no attempt or effort to

45:15

track adverse outcomes of patients after they left

45:18

the center. She goes on

45:20

to say, but nearly all children who came to

45:22

the center here presented with very serious

45:24

mental health problems. Despite claiming to be

45:26

a place where children could receive multidisciplinary

45:28

care, the center would not

45:31

treat these mental health issues. Instead,

45:33

children were automatically given puberty blockers

45:35

or cross sex hormones, even though

45:37

the Dutch study excluded persons experiencing

45:40

mental health issues. We're going to

45:42

get into that in a second. The Dutch study is really, there's

45:44

a series of two studies, one in 2011, one in 2014, that

45:49

form the basis medically of transitioning

45:52

with puberty blockers and these hormone

45:54

therapies for kids. But

45:56

you know, it says in there, this whistleblower says in there, and

45:58

this has been a common thing. theme people have

46:00

come forward that you know whether

46:03

people have if they have a mental health

46:05

problem if they're coming in with any type

46:07

of issue like that the default option is

46:09

just to throw them on these medications and

46:11

start this transition as if it's a panacea

46:13

as if this will fix all of their

46:15

problems. Here's a clinical social

46:17

worker in basically an information session the

46:19

clinical social worker is kind of the

46:21

go between between the insurance company and

46:23

getting these therapies green green lit. This

46:25

is the clinical social worker in a

46:28

training session take a listen. We

46:30

sort of will go again into understanding

46:33

that I'm not going to be a gatekeeper I'm not

46:36

going to be a person that's going to stop them from accessing care

46:38

I'm not there to determine if they're trans

46:40

enough I'm going to write them this letter.

46:43

Any psych history that might be helpful

46:46

to sort of

46:48

showing the necessity so let's say a

46:50

client has a psych history that

46:53

includes like suicidal ideation or

46:55

a suicide attempt and

46:58

you can connect it to the gender dysphoria that

47:00

actually can be sort of a positive

47:04

persuasive essay piece and I'll talk about

47:06

that in a little bit because you

47:08

can kind of show what this is so

47:10

necessary right well this is how this is

47:12

impacting this person's life and this is why

47:14

this procedure is necessary and needed. I have

47:16

found that when I frame it in

47:19

a you know we're going to kind of use this as a persuasive

47:21

essay and we're going to really you know kind of

47:23

stick it to them there's there's a

47:26

little bit more fun with it in the way we

47:28

even use language so I found that to kind of

47:30

be helpful with clients. Let's

47:33

just stick it to them amazing

47:36

yeah along so I mean you can you

47:39

can see there I've just this is

47:41

one person but open door policy suicide

47:43

attempts suicide ideations that's fine let's

47:45

just get them on these get these yeah

47:47

full speed ahead so talking about you

47:49

know endocrine disruption by medication so 21

47:53

of some of the world's most qualified

47:55

endocrinologists have come forward in the Wall

47:57

Street Journal and published an article titled

48:00

this, youth gender transition is pushed

48:02

without evidence. This conversation is really

48:04

getting mainstreamed here. And they're saying

48:06

psychotherapy, not hormones and surgery, is

48:08

increasingly the first line of treatment

48:10

abroad. So we have, this

48:12

is a systemic review looking at all

48:14

the data here. And they're looking at

48:16

the title of this is Hormone Therapy,

48:18

Mental Health, and the Quality of Life

48:20

Among Transgender People. And this is where

48:23

this conversation is really going. Because they're

48:25

looking at it all, all the studies.

48:27

And they said, certainty in

48:29

this conclusion is limited by high risk

48:31

of bias in study designs, small sample

48:33

sizes, and confounding with other interventions. We

48:35

cannot draw any conclusions about death by

48:37

suicide. So they're saying mental health in

48:39

general, there's way too many risks of

48:42

bias, small sample sizes. There's a lot

48:44

of issues with these studies. But when

48:46

it comes to suicide, impossible to draw

48:48

any type of conclusion if these hormones

48:50

are actually helping or not. And

48:53

why might that be? Well, a lot of

48:55

people point to studies like this. This is

48:57

another kind of literature review on

48:59

brain development and puberty. Understanding the role

49:01

of puberty in structural and functional development

49:04

of the adolescent brain. So remember, you're

49:06

blocking puberty. It says, overall, this review

49:08

reveals a mixed literature concerning the role

49:11

of puberty in the development of the

49:13

adolescent brain. Evidence from animal studies reveal

49:15

that puberty has effects, some sex specific,

49:18

on development of different brain regions. Furthermore,

49:21

manipulation of pubertal hormones in animal models

49:23

has shown that delaying or preventing puberty

49:26

impacts brain development. Although the number of

49:28

studies investigating the relationship between puberty and

49:30

different aspects of the human brain development

49:32

has increased in the past few years,

49:35

this review demonstrates that there continues

49:37

to be limited data across neuroimaging

49:39

domains. And the data available are

49:41

not always consistent. In other words,

49:44

we don't know yet what's going on.

49:46

And a lot of the

49:48

Nordic countries have already abandoned this. And remember,

49:51

the Nordic countries were famous for getting out

49:53

of the COVID-19 vaccine business

49:55

for kids because of myocarditis. So

49:58

they seem to be moving away. from

50:00

this conversation as well. Yeah,

50:03

I mean they have obviously some

50:05

good medical professionals there with courage.

50:08

And so here's one of the studies

50:10

that was coming out of a Nordic

50:13

journal. This is adolescent development and psychosocial

50:15

functioning after starting cross-sex hormones for gender

50:17

dysphoria. And when we read this,

50:19

it almost seems like common sense, but they said this,

50:21

results. Those who did well in

50:24

terms of psychiatric symptoms and functioning before cross-sex

50:26

hormones mainly did well during real life. Those

50:29

who had psychiatric treatment, needs or

50:31

problems in school, peer relationships and

50:33

managing everyday matters outside of home

50:35

continue to have problems during real

50:38

life. They concluded that the medical

50:40

gender reassignment is not enough to

50:42

improve functioning and relieve psychiatric comorbidities

50:44

among adolescents and gender dysphoria. And

50:47

they're talking about really appropriate

50:49

interventions are warranted, blah, blah,

50:52

blah. So they're basically, I mean, it's a

50:54

common sense study there saying, look, these puberty

50:56

blockers are not going to solve everything. We

50:58

really need to look at this in a

51:01

different way. And this is what other countries

51:03

are doing. This is what your headlines

51:05

are seeing in England here. England's health

51:07

service says it won't give puberty blockers

51:09

to children at gender clinics. And

51:11

then in Sweden, this is in 2022,

51:13

their national board of health and welfare

51:16

had to update their recommendations for hormone

51:18

therapy for gender dysphoria, specifically in young

51:20

people. Following a

51:22

request from the national board of health and

51:25

welfare, SBU has drawn up a literature review

51:27

in which all relevant studies on the effect

51:29

and safety of hormone treatments have been reviewed.

51:31

In the report, which is published today,

51:33

it appears that it is not yet

51:35

possible to draw any definite conclusions about

51:37

the effect and safety of treatments based

51:39

on the scientific evidence. Based

51:42

on the results that emerged, the

51:44

national board of health and welfare's

51:46

overall conclusion is that the

51:48

risks of puberty inhibiting

51:50

and gender affirming hormone treatment for those

51:52

under 18 currently outweigh the possible benefits

51:55

for the group as a whole. So

51:57

that's a pretty resounding statement right there.

52:00

from the Swedish Medical Board. And

52:03

so what we're talking about here, again,

52:05

we'll go back to this, is these

52:07

Dutch studies. This laid the medical foundation

52:09

for the puberty suppression. There

52:11

was one in 2011, puberty suppression in

52:13

adolescents with gender identity disorder, and then

52:15

a follow-up in 2014. And

52:18

what a lot of people looking

52:21

at this in the medical community

52:23

objectively are really describing here, they're

52:25

calling it runaway diffusion. And

52:27

this is a term, it's a new term to me when

52:29

I heard it. It's basically a

52:32

phenomenon where the medical community mistakes

52:34

a small experiment or one or

52:36

two studies as a proven practice.

52:39

And then the potentially non-beneficial,

52:41

even harmful practice spread rapidly

52:43

into the general clinical setting.

52:45

So there's a study or

52:47

a kind of a commentary

52:49

that looked at these Dutch

52:51

studies and basically picked them

52:53

apart and showed all of the flaws

52:55

with this. They never should have been

52:57

the cornerstone of this gender affirming care,

53:00

but they turned out to be. So

53:02

you can read that here. It's called

53:04

the Myth of Reliable Research in Pediatric

53:06

Gender Medicine, a critical evaluation of the

53:08

Dutch studies and the research that is

53:10

followed. But in there, they speak about

53:12

more of the, they take a step

53:15

back and talk about the entire space in general,

53:17

and they say this. What makes

53:20

this arena exceptional is the radical

53:22

irreversible nature of gender affirming, medical and

53:24

surgical interventions desired by the exponentially growing

53:27

number of youth in the Western world.

53:29

Another unique aspect of the gender medicine

53:31

field is that a number of clinicians

53:34

tasked with caring for gender distress have

53:36

taken on the role of political campaigners,

53:38

and in doing so have traded wisdom

53:41

and nuance for blunt activism. And

53:43

they close with this. And they

53:45

say, when clinician activists misuse the

53:47

eminence of their institutions and medical

53:50

societies to deny or obfuscate important

53:52

facts about pediatric gender transition, that

53:54

puberty blockers are prescribed to peripuberal

53:56

children as young as eight to

53:58

nine, that mastectomies are... commonly provided

54:00

to teens that the wave of

54:03

detransition is rising and already far

54:05

exceeded what's been historically recorded and

54:08

that no other pediatric intervention of

54:10

similar drastic nature has ever been

54:12

delivered at scale based on such

54:14

low quality of evidence. They may

54:16

succeed in scoring a political or

54:18

legal victory in the short term

54:20

but they also contribute to the

54:22

longer term erosion of public trust

54:24

in the medical profession. They also

54:26

inadvertently contribute to the medical harm.

54:29

That's an interesting closing statement there

54:31

and let's look at puberty blockers

54:33

as a whole. They're looking at

54:36

puberty blocker claims, these are insurance

54:38

company claims by year for ages

54:41

six through 17 years old

54:44

and you can see starting in 2017 up through 2021 that's the latest

54:47

data see 120 percent increase. There's

54:49

obviously a trend going on here

54:52

so what happened in 2017 where

54:54

did this conversation come from? Well

54:56

we don't have to look far

54:59

we go right back into this

55:01

article here. California LGBT inclusive textbooks

55:03

to be implemented in California classrooms

55:06

and as California goes there is the rest of the country

55:09

and that's what history shows and even in

55:11

this space I mean it's like I was

55:13

saying at the top of this segment there's

55:15

really no space you can talk about here

55:17

that's not polarizing even in this space you

55:19

have polarization you have division so let's look

55:21

at the United States map now where we're

55:23

at currently from that 2017

55:26

decision we have in the dark

55:28

green those are there's six states

55:30

those are states that have laws

55:33

explicitly requiring LGBTQ inclusion in state

55:35

curricular standards that dark orange those

55:37

are about seven states those are

55:40

those are states have state laws explicitly

55:42

censoring discussion of LGBTQ people in school

55:44

and then the lightest hand color they're

55:46

basically like Switzerland in this conversation they

55:48

have no preference they just want to

55:50

stay out of it but it

55:53

you can see it's there's just

55:55

a checkerboard across the United States but

55:57

this isn't just about gender schools deeming

56:00

themselves as we saw from

56:02

that opening clip, the sexual

56:04

educators of our children. And

56:07

it feels like it showed up in our schools

56:09

out of nowhere. Where did it come from and

56:12

who's doing it? Well, it doesn't take that far

56:14

to go back to the WHO on this conversation.

56:16

And under their watch, how have

56:19

they proposed to educate our kids?

56:21

Remember, the WHO is planning their

56:23

International Pandemic Treaty, International Health Regulations.

56:26

And this is under the Sustainable

56:28

Development Goals, SDGs, under agenda 2030.

56:31

So everyone will be taught the same throughout

56:34

the world. So let's look at some of

56:36

their international sexual education guidance. So

56:38

this is their kind of their

56:41

book, their pamphlet, International Technical Guidance

56:43

on Sexuality Education by UNESCO and

56:45

the WHO, hundreds of

56:47

pages long. And you go in there and

56:49

you look under just for example, five to

56:51

eight year olds. This is what

56:54

they're proposing. For five, as young as

56:56

five, you're in a state that people

56:58

show love and care for other people

57:00

in different ways, including kissing, hugging, touching,

57:02

and sometimes through sexual behaviors. So

57:04

you'll say to a five year old that if you

57:06

like somebody, you can show them, you know, love

57:10

through sexual sexual behaviors. Okay, well,

57:12

we go into Europe and this is

57:14

directly published out of WHO regional office

57:16

in Europe. And the title

57:18

of this new document here is

57:20

Standards for Sexuality Education in Europe.

57:23

And this goes even further. So

57:25

now we have that same breakdown of age

57:27

groups, but a little younger, a lot younger,

57:30

zero to four, zero enjoyment.

57:32

This is when you'll be teaching enjoyment

57:35

and pleasure when touching one's own body,

57:37

early childhood masturbation, zero to four. Then

57:40

you go into nine to

57:42

12 ages, acquire modern media

57:44

competence, mobile phone, internet, dealing

57:46

with pornography. So you

57:48

can look at that and say, well, they're

57:50

going to teach them maybe how to stay

57:52

away from that, that that's bad. But

57:55

you know, at age nine, do we really

57:57

want a classroom of teachers that you know,

57:59

reach the conversation about online pornography with

58:01

kids. And how about the child and

58:04

his family is doing a really good

58:06

job of just keeping pornography off the

58:08

Internet, out of their phones, and suddenly

58:10

you introduce, don't go look at this.

58:12

If that's even what's being done,

58:15

the power of suggestion is we're

58:17

seeing this increase in gender-affirming care

58:19

as soon as you introduce transgender

58:21

discussions in school. So these

58:23

things really do seem to set

58:26

the precedent. Yeah,

58:28

and you know, what does that look like? Well,

58:30

here's a video out of Europe to just show

58:32

a window into possibly what this may be happening.

58:35

Take a look. Oh,

58:58

yeah? Yeah.

59:57

And it could be fooling, but it's actually pretty

59:59

special. of computers. And

1:00:01

I did not have a great problem

1:00:03

after I even made your finger before both. You

1:00:07

know, when we watched that, I mean,

1:00:09

you can see that many different ways. Personally,

1:00:12

I think most people would say, I think

1:00:14

the parents should be handling a conversation that

1:00:16

appears to be how teachers in the Netherlands

1:00:18

are being

1:00:20

taught to potentially teach children. I want to

1:00:22

talk about the video just for a second,

1:00:25

because I want to talk about some of

1:00:27

the research that we do here. We weren't

1:00:29

sure exactly where that was sourced. At first,

1:00:31

the video said it was from the WHO.

1:00:33

We couldn't prove that. We did track it

1:00:36

to Rutgers, and Rutgers has since taken that

1:00:39

video down, saying it was misunderstood. One

1:00:41

of the comments that they have online

1:00:43

referencing, Rutgers Foundation, we all want children

1:00:45

to experience healthy and safe development appropriate

1:00:47

to their age, environment, and the questions

1:00:49

they have. This helps them to make

1:00:52

responsible choices at a later age when

1:00:54

they become so sexually active. I also

1:00:56

want to say that I reached out

1:00:58

to a friend of mine that

1:01:00

lives in Holland to say, is

1:01:03

this being accurately transcribed? They said

1:01:05

that the word dick

1:01:07

should have really been penis, but it

1:01:10

is essentially exactly what's being said there.

1:01:12

And they asked me, what is this

1:01:14

video about? I said, well, we're going

1:01:16

to talk about these discussions. Is it

1:01:19

appropriate for young children? And my friend

1:01:21

said, oh, yeah, that's a huge issue

1:01:24

here in the Netherlands. We have this

1:01:26

thing that's now called Purple Fridays, in

1:01:28

which they're bringing education to our young

1:01:31

children, discussing gender and all sorts of

1:01:33

curriculums that have had a lot of

1:01:35

people in an outrage here. So clearly,

1:01:37

is it just an issue in

1:01:39

America? And we kind of think of

1:01:41

that sort of liberal, sometimes people call

1:01:43

it forward thinking in the Netherlands, whatever you

1:01:45

may think, they are finding themselves in the

1:01:47

controversy around this. So that's just a little

1:01:49

bit of a background on that video. It

1:01:51

has since been pulled. Rutgers threatens anybody that

1:01:53

decides to play it. I guess that means

1:01:55

they're threatening us. But it was out there.

1:01:57

It was thought to be an educational. material

1:02:00

sometime do with that is those that are

1:02:02

watching what you will. And

1:02:05

that, you know, there is a surge against

1:02:08

the background of all of this. There is a

1:02:10

surge all time high of people homeschooling their children.

1:02:12

I mean, obviously that's because of

1:02:14

what happened during COVID with the mandates. But

1:02:16

it's not separate. This isn't all in a

1:02:19

vacuum. So you can see a lot of

1:02:21

people watching that video, you can see why

1:02:23

they would maybe want to homeschool their kids.

1:02:25

Or you can see these headlines or these

1:02:27

guidelines by the W.H.O. and UNESCO and what's

1:02:30

coming into the school. So again,

1:02:32

a completely polarizing and divisive conversation

1:02:34

and topic. And the public really

1:02:36

is there's only really two sides.

1:02:39

We're trying to bring some sense

1:02:41

to a lot of this conversation.

1:02:43

And even the medical community is starting to side

1:02:46

with the fact that we really don't have the

1:02:48

evidence for this. We kind of jump the gun

1:02:50

is what they're really looking like they're saying. And

1:02:52

we need to step back a little bit and

1:02:55

really do the real research long term, especially. Jeffrey,

1:02:58

I want to thank you. This is a

1:03:00

difficult topic, but you've obviously brought the science

1:03:02

and the evidence, look through it. It's

1:03:04

been very thorough and very enlightening. And I really

1:03:06

appreciate how you've handled. Thank you very much. Thanks

1:03:09

for joining us today. Absolutely. You're welcome. I'll see

1:03:11

you next week. You know,

1:03:13

I want to remind you that many of

1:03:15

the parents that stood up at school board

1:03:17

meetings pushing back against some of these curriculums

1:03:20

were listed as domestic

1:03:22

terrorists or the thought was

1:03:24

maybe Homeland Security should investigate

1:03:27

these parents as domestic terrorists.

1:03:29

That's how polarized this conversation

1:03:31

is. And it's amazing to me

1:03:33

that the suggesting a teacher should be

1:03:35

allowed to have some of these conversations

1:03:38

with your child. But God forbid you

1:03:40

have a conversation as an adult with

1:03:42

those teachers on whether this is appropriate

1:03:44

or not. That's not allowed. But the

1:03:47

other thing is now this conversation can

1:03:49

be very one sided. I mean, they

1:03:51

can say, well, Dell, you're a married

1:03:54

man. You're obviously, you know, heterosexual. What

1:03:56

place do you have in this conversation?

1:03:59

And I will admit. I think that we need

1:04:01

to have a well-rounded perspective. And one of the

1:04:03

questions I have is when we look at this

1:04:06

entire beautiful blanket of the differentiations

1:04:11

of humanity in America and all the

1:04:13

approaches to gender that are out there,

1:04:15

whether you're gay or bi or straight

1:04:18

or lesbian or plus, whatever the other

1:04:20

letters, I'm probably not getting this right.

1:04:22

It's not a direct focus of mine.

1:04:24

The question is, are the people that

1:04:26

are in those communities agree with this

1:04:28

education of our children? At

1:04:30

what age should that start? Well,

1:04:33

I was a bit surprised to find out that

1:04:35

there's actually a group that is speaking

1:04:38

out about exactly that. It's

1:04:40

called Gays Against Groomers and

1:04:42

the founder, Jamie Michelle, well,

1:04:44

you may be seeing her in the news. Take a

1:04:46

look at this. The controversial

1:04:49

Gays Against Groomers. The group

1:04:51

Gays Against Groomers. Gays Against Groomers. I love

1:04:53

what they're doing. They're called Gays

1:04:55

Against Groomers. Says it all, doesn't

1:04:57

it? These are gay people who

1:05:00

do not like the trans

1:05:02

agenda that seems to be taking

1:05:04

over our culture. Jamie Mitchell is

1:05:06

the founder of Gays Against Groomers. We are

1:05:08

a group comprised solely of gay people.

1:05:10

We are part of the LGBT community.

1:05:13

Our mission at CUPOL is to protect

1:05:15

the children, obviously, first and foremost, but

1:05:17

also to reclaim our name. There's many

1:05:19

more of us that are not on

1:05:22

board with what's being done than those that

1:05:24

are, but they are just the loudest

1:05:26

because they're backed by every powerful institution

1:05:28

in the country. We see ourselves in

1:05:30

these kids. Stop trans and

1:05:32

gay youth. Stop gay eraser.

1:05:35

Save the tomboys. Stop

1:05:37

the sexism. Stop

1:05:39

using the LGBT community as a

1:05:42

scapegoat for hurting children. Protect our

1:05:44

kids. One thing that I love

1:05:46

about it is we've got people

1:05:49

from all walks of life, all

1:05:51

sorts of different professions. We've got

1:05:53

former military members and things like

1:05:55

that who are chapter leaders. And

1:05:57

So we're definitely a very...

1:06:00

Married. Group I want to be very

1:06:02

clear. That being anti groomer and

1:06:04

anti child sexualization mutilation is

1:06:06

not anti gay. It's not

1:06:09

anti Lgbtq. What do I

1:06:11

Lgbt soon though. I

1:06:13

write. I mean, it isn't have to be

1:06:15

said. we're trying to bring things back to

1:06:18

just the face of sanity arm. And and

1:06:20

you know, thirds of red wine has always

1:06:22

been just leave kids alone, whatever adults wanna

1:06:24

do fine. but you know, didn't their children.

1:06:26

They're innocent. for such a short amount

1:06:28

of time? Ah, And it's devastating to

1:06:31

see in it's it's awful to see

1:06:33

it. Happening in our name. Is.

1:06:37

My own are implicitly joined now by

1:06:39

the phone or of produce against Groomers

1:06:41

Jamie, Michelle or Jamie Big You for

1:06:44

joining us today. Or

1:06:48

do. We have. Which has her. You hold on

1:06:50

so you. Did. You mean so I'm

1:06:52

so sorry there and go home so

1:06:54

obvious be here thanks to having me

1:06:56

is good to have you. So you

1:06:59

sounded jays against groomers. Why? what is

1:07:01

it. I'm so

1:07:03

I found in the organization back and.

1:07:06

Ah, June of Twenty Twenty Two. Tough

1:07:08

to fight back against what's being done

1:07:10

in our name or two children. You

1:07:12

know, like this is kind of just

1:07:15

become the overarching narrative that people assume.

1:07:17

All Gays and lesbians and even trans

1:07:19

people are on board with. Ah, and

1:07:21

I had to. You know, I had

1:07:23

many friends that felt the same. Every

1:07:25

single gay person and trans people that

1:07:28

I knew in my life, like in

1:07:30

my personal life. We were all very

1:07:32

much against this, but there was no

1:07:34

unified, cohesive message being put out. From

1:07:36

us. So I saw the need for

1:07:39

that and I felt like our voices

1:07:41

from inside the community could have a

1:07:43

very significant effect on on the discourse

1:07:45

and the direction that things are heading

1:07:48

in. Because you know, as a God

1:07:50

bless all of you for speaking out

1:07:52

against it. but straight people are instantly

1:07:55

written off as hateful bigots. ah, you

1:07:57

know, transfer homophobes. all the files. when

1:08:00

they try and speak out against this, and

1:08:02

obviously that's not true, but they have a harder

1:08:04

time doing that to us even though they do

1:08:06

try. You know, you

1:08:08

go to our Wikipedia page and it says

1:08:11

we're an anti-LGBT organization even though everybody in

1:08:13

the organization is LGB or T themselves. So

1:08:15

I don't think those attacks stick quite as

1:08:17

well as they do with you guys, even

1:08:20

though I think the majority of people do

1:08:22

see that that's just a lie to try

1:08:24

and silence people who are

1:08:26

against what's being done to children, which it's

1:08:29

shocking to me that I even had to

1:08:31

create this organization. If you would have told me that this

1:08:33

is where we'd be 10 years, less

1:08:35

than 10 years after we, you know, got the

1:08:37

right to marry, I

1:08:40

would have thought you were absolutely insane. You

1:08:43

know, we never intended for this to happen.

1:08:45

We couldn't foresee it coming, and

1:08:47

maybe that's naivety on our part,

1:08:49

but yeah, we're

1:08:51

in the arena now fighting back against it,

1:08:53

and they don't like it too much, they

1:08:55

being the people pushing this on kids. I

1:08:58

mean, and those are people that I'm sure, you know, are

1:09:02

you standing with that maybe you've been in marches

1:09:04

with or, you know, that, so when you knew

1:09:07

you were probably gonna get pushed back for speaking

1:09:09

out, there must have been a defining

1:09:11

moment for you that sort of catalyzed, I

1:09:13

need to do this, because it's a pretty

1:09:15

bold step. What was it that

1:09:17

really sort of pushed you over the

1:09:19

edge into making this decision to start this group? Yeah,

1:09:23

well, you know, myself, like everyone else that

1:09:25

uses social media, was seeing the onslaught of

1:09:28

videos and images just coming out of schools

1:09:30

and the all-age drag shows

1:09:32

and seeing children being

1:09:35

transitioned, but I remember specifically the

1:09:37

one turning point moment for me,

1:09:40

which was like a day or two before

1:09:42

I officially launched the social media accounts for

1:09:44

gays against rumors was there was a drag

1:09:47

show in Texas, I wanna say Dallas, I

1:09:49

could be wrong, where

1:09:51

there were these young children,

1:09:53

like they couldn't have been more than five,

1:09:55

six years old, sitting in these chairs at

1:09:58

a show. at a

1:10:00

drag show with a bright neon

1:10:02

sign behind them that said, it's

1:10:05

not going to lick itself. And,

1:10:07

you know, they were the drag queen there

1:10:10

was having these kids strut up and down

1:10:12

the little runway they had, the little catwalk,

1:10:14

whatever you want to call it. And

1:10:17

I saw that and my blood just started boiling. I'm

1:10:19

being told we have the video, so let's take

1:10:21

a look and see if it boils anyone else's

1:10:23

bloods. Here we go. If you're going like

1:10:25

we do, I want you to come up to there real quick.

1:10:29

If you think you can do it, if you think you

1:10:31

can walk the runway with the dog, who

1:10:33

wants to be a DJ for the ball? One,

1:10:35

two, three, let's go. Whoo!

1:10:48

Oh, oh, yeah! Oh,

1:10:53

yeah! Thank

1:10:58

you. That's a photo. Yeah,

1:11:02

baby, come on back. That

1:11:07

sign is quite, if it wasn't over the top, it's

1:11:09

not going to lick itself on the wall. It's

1:11:12

hard to imagine a parent being there

1:11:14

in that situation and not asking themselves,

1:11:16

is this actually

1:11:18

appropriate? And

1:11:20

I think that that's part of the

1:11:24

controversy here, is that there appears

1:11:26

to be parents that are going

1:11:28

along with this and

1:11:30

psychologists that are going along with this

1:11:34

and thinking that this is a conversation that

1:11:36

needs to be happening with all children.

1:11:39

What are your thoughts on that? Oh,

1:11:42

yeah, it's incredibly disturbing that any parent would

1:11:44

think that this is okay, not

1:11:47

just this, but the

1:11:49

pornographic material in schools and

1:11:52

worst of all, in my opinion,

1:11:54

the permanent sterilization and

1:11:56

mutilation of their children's

1:11:58

developing bodies. I

1:12:01

cannot understand it. I think that, you know, I

1:12:03

really think that these woke progressive

1:12:06

moms think that this is how they're

1:12:08

being inclusive and accepting of

1:12:10

like our community But

1:12:13

it's really not It's

1:12:16

it's really really not and I want

1:12:18

them to hear that from us from

1:12:20

gay people and trans people as well

1:12:22

that we have In gays against groomers

1:12:24

like we're good. We have all the

1:12:26

rights we ever wanted You know There

1:12:28

is this radical sect within our community

1:12:30

that that wants supremacy over equality and

1:12:32

wants to dominate and just destroy every

1:12:34

aspect of Society as we've known it forever

1:12:37

But the majority of us really are not

1:12:39

okay with what's happening and we don't want

1:12:41

to be represented this way We

1:12:43

don't want this, you know, this isn't this

1:12:45

isn't the way to show that you're accepting

1:12:48

of lgb and t people It's really not

1:12:51

We believe that it's child abuse putting children

1:12:53

in these situations and doing these things to

1:12:55

their bodies and um, you know Child

1:12:58

abuse is already illegal in the country and

1:13:00

I I really think it's time that What's

1:13:04

being done to kids in the name

1:13:06

of this LGBTQIA plus agenda needs to

1:13:08

be viewed in the same regard There's

1:13:11

I want to play a video for you. This is a very

1:13:14

famous one. I think one of the youngest a Publicly

1:13:19

Transition children jazz in

1:13:21

a reality show that's going on take a look at this

1:13:24

This needs to advance more. It's for an off-center

1:13:26

this has come down here I mean, this is

1:13:29

off-center see this is tilted so that in order

1:13:31

to get this midline We need to bring that

1:13:33

down more and that will centralize this. I

1:13:35

think we're saying the same thing. I'm happy

1:13:38

I have a good sense what we need to do.

1:13:40

Let me just take a picture to Porp

1:13:43

thing you can be a porn star I

1:13:51

Mean There's so much that's disturbing about

1:13:53

that. First of all, this is a

1:13:55

child who's having their penis removed and

1:13:58

and working towards getting a. Working

1:14:00

or functioning vagina arm and you

1:14:02

had the doctor they're joking about. We're

1:14:04

taking so many pictures of your privates.

1:14:07

Ah, that's a Marcy Bowers that die.

1:14:09

You know a you could be

1:14:11

a porn star. Ah,

1:14:13

she's trans herself. Marcy

1:14:16

Bowers and. I.

1:14:18

Just. Enough. First of all

1:14:20

to be joking I did in

1:14:22

In In and to me the

1:14:24

question is you know I guess

1:14:26

is this sexuality? What is a

1:14:29

difference between sex and gender? Could

1:14:31

you help me with that because

1:14:33

I'm confused about this in these

1:14:35

situations. If thoughts on that of.

1:14:38

Yeah, I mean first I just

1:14:40

want to say Doctor Mercy Bowers

1:14:42

belongs in prison for the rest

1:14:45

of his life. Ah for what

1:14:47

did he has done to countless

1:14:49

countless use on. But the other

1:14:52

The difference between sex and gender

1:14:54

in reality is there is not

1:14:56

a difference on the gender called.

1:14:59

Like to say that sexuality is

1:15:01

yours. Sex. I mean sex is

1:15:03

is cities like your basic chromosomes

1:15:05

right? Like X Wire x x

1:15:08

Ah. And gender is somewhere in

1:15:10

your head, in your hearts arm

1:15:12

and completely not related. Reality.

1:15:16

Is that they are the same things?

1:15:18

Ah, and you can't You can't change.

1:15:20

Your sexy can't change your gender.

1:15:22

I'm. You. Know adults that want

1:15:25

to go through with the transition process?

1:15:27

That sort of. We have no problem

1:15:29

with what adults do, as long as

1:15:31

it's you know, consensual and and I'm

1:15:33

consenting. and ah, you know, whatever. They

1:15:36

don't push anything on anyone else. I'm.

1:15:38

But the reality is that they can

1:15:40

never become like a man's, never become

1:15:42

a woman and vice versa. It's just.

1:15:45

In a medically and and

1:15:47

scientifically impossible and gender ideology

1:15:49

loves to play make believe

1:15:51

in for society to play

1:15:53

along with it that somehow

1:15:55

you can change your sex

1:15:57

on any chance. So it

1:15:59

it's. You know, the whole basis

1:16:01

of gender ideology is rooted in delusion

1:16:03

and fantasy. I'm. And I think

1:16:05

it's really scary and dangerous, the bear

1:16:07

implanting these ideas which are not based

1:16:09

in reality into young children's minds as

1:16:11

early as you know, two years old.

1:16:13

Some of these books. Now. Are

1:16:16

targeted towards literal babies. Ah

1:16:19

so yeah. It's it's it's it's scary

1:16:21

stuff What's happening out there. I I

1:16:23

want to sort of just dove

1:16:25

into. would seem more on sensitive

1:16:27

space to to get into. Would

1:16:29

choose this. I you know if

1:16:31

we're educating children the argument is

1:16:33

obviously in. We have to admit

1:16:36

there's been abusive people that are

1:16:38

not like this that we don't

1:16:40

understand and or maybe are gay

1:16:42

or bi you know throughout life

1:16:44

and you know. We.

1:16:46

All want everyone to feel safe living

1:16:48

in this country. We also recognize that

1:16:50

are children are going through. Will you

1:16:52

know really asking questions? I'm to me

1:16:54

a lot of this goes to the

1:16:57

conversation which is that you know they

1:16:59

were born this way and said that

1:17:01

as know like no matter what we

1:17:03

teach your children it's not going to

1:17:05

change who they are or how they

1:17:07

see. It's if you're gay then you

1:17:09

know that as a child. good friends.

1:17:11

you know there's a child's but the

1:17:13

question is a be when you look

1:17:15

at these stats like California. Where

1:17:17

we start introducing conversations of transgender

1:17:20

and then we see this rise

1:17:22

in transgender. It seems that this

1:17:24

used to be some idea that

1:17:27

there's a social socialization stack and

1:17:29

happen at least around this gender.

1:17:32

Conversations: I think it's safer for

1:17:34

you to help me understand. Where

1:17:36

is that? Line Drawn does? Is

1:17:39

there any socialization that can affect

1:17:41

how a child ah, it's you

1:17:44

note sees themselves either sexually or.

1:17:46

In their gender or in Taishan. I

1:17:49

think it's completely disingenuous to try

1:17:51

and pretend like there isn't some

1:17:53

sort of social contagion going on

1:17:55

with the massive uprise and on

1:17:57

numbers of trans and non binary.

1:18:00

The gay identifying youth, the whole thing.

1:18:02

Ah, right now Jan the I believe

1:18:04

the number is some around twenty percent

1:18:06

of Jen the. Arm. Identifies

1:18:09

as somewhere within the rainbow. Ah,

1:18:11

and that's completely unheard of. You

1:18:13

know, if it weren't a social

1:18:15

contagion. You. Would see this

1:18:18

rising across all age.

1:18:20

Demographics. Move. Really is

1:18:22

some you know it's really only the

1:18:24

the younger generation and and and Jan

1:18:27

Alpha is just as the one that

1:18:29

comes after Genji the younger kids. I'm.

1:18:31

You know it's it's really targeting are

1:18:34

being if they're being most affected. Ah

1:18:36

in these results I'm and so he

1:18:38

eyes I think definitely it's a social

1:18:40

contagion in any way. Anyone saying that

1:18:42

is not a thing is lying to

1:18:45

themselves and everybody else. You.

1:18:48

Know you talked about the fact

1:18:50

that giving gender bloggers which is

1:18:52

a really I think is the

1:18:54

heart of this is a couple

1:18:56

of things introducing drugs the keep

1:18:58

you go through. I'm in puberty

1:19:00

blockers, the keyboards and puberty and

1:19:02

in all the idea of allowing

1:19:04

sex change operations in children I'm

1:19:06

in a sense leads. You know

1:19:08

the part of it that I

1:19:10

question is no matter what your

1:19:12

gender or Sicily ends up being,

1:19:15

you know d one remove your

1:19:17

ability to be stimulated. Or have

1:19:19

you know, ah, sexual experience because

1:19:21

you were really getting in the

1:19:24

way of that potentially castrating. Are

1:19:26

these children You describe it as

1:19:28

you know child abuse? Ah, I'm

1:19:31

in your thoughts. You know, is

1:19:33

this something and that governments should

1:19:35

get involved in a me Because

1:19:38

here we are. The question is

1:19:40

we should all be free and

1:19:43

of the work that I do.

1:19:45

A discusses medical freedoms a huge

1:19:47

part. Of the the work that I do

1:19:49

is I think you should be allowed to decide

1:19:51

whether you get a job with a vaccine and

1:19:54

Us Nagaland. I'm not going to tell you what

1:19:56

to do but it should be your choice in

1:19:58

this. You no idea, How is it. we say

1:20:00

to parents, well, we want you to be

1:20:02

free enough to make medical decisions

1:20:04

for your child. Does the government

1:20:06

come in here, you think, and say, no, we're

1:20:08

not going to allow you to give these puberty

1:20:10

blockers? Do you think that would be going too

1:20:13

far for the government or not? I'm

1:20:16

a small government person. You

1:20:18

know, I believe in the government should

1:20:20

have as little to do in people's

1:20:22

lives as possible. We're lying there.

1:20:25

Yeah. Yeah. And

1:20:27

just to reference earlier, child abuse, you know,

1:20:29

there are laws against child abuse for a

1:20:32

reason. I mean, these children cannot take care

1:20:34

of or look out for themselves. And

1:20:37

so I don't think it's out of line

1:20:39

to restrict or ban these

1:20:41

procedures and drugs from being given

1:20:43

to children because they are,

1:20:46

I mean, it is child abuse. I truly

1:20:48

believe it's child abuse. It's like the most

1:20:50

egregious form of it. Really

1:20:52

castrating somebody, a child or amputating healthy

1:20:55

body parts. I think it's one thing

1:20:57

if it's like a lifesaving procedure, like

1:20:59

a medical issue. You know, obviously the

1:21:02

government, you know, the parents should be

1:21:04

able to provide that to their children

1:21:06

and not have the government involved. But

1:21:08

when it's something elective like this, that,

1:21:11

you know, a child's life is not

1:21:13

depending on. I think that,

1:21:16

you know, states do need to step

1:21:18

up. And we would like to see

1:21:20

federally, like federally ban these

1:21:22

puberty blockers, which is a really nice way

1:21:24

of saying chemical sterilization

1:21:27

drugs. By

1:21:29

the way, Lupron is like the most

1:21:31

popular puberty blocker. And

1:21:33

it's been commonly given to

1:21:35

pedophiles, adult pedophiles, obviously, to

1:21:39

chemically castrate them. And

1:21:42

you know, the ACLU even came out

1:21:44

and said that it was a barbaric

1:21:46

practice to give pedophiles Lupron because

1:21:48

of the effects That it has

1:21:50

on them. And These are being given to

1:21:53

children, pre-teens. I Mean, this is to block

1:21:55

puberty, which is also not a thing. I

1:21:57

Mean, you can't Just, it's not a pause

1:21:59

button. Really like it doesn't work like

1:22:01

that. There are lifelong medical. Side

1:22:04

effects that come along with that in

1:22:06

one of them is chemical castration. I'm.

1:22:09

So. Now I'm in case against rumors

1:22:11

we have had a hand and getting

1:22:13

Twenty States style. laud this gender affirming

1:22:15

Kara use a lot of promotions because

1:22:17

this is how they'd say it. I

1:22:20

don't like using their language because it's

1:22:22

not rooted in reality. I say child

1:22:24

sterilization, a mutilations as well. We do

1:22:26

a games against groomers we is that

1:22:28

language. but we've had a hand and

1:22:30

getting Twenty States. ah to outline I'm

1:22:32

somewhat. There's I think Twenty Two now

1:22:34

said if placed that if either bandit

1:22:36

or place restrictions on his arm. we

1:22:39

have had. A hand in all of

1:22:41

them. But yeah, twenty him at

1:22:43

the, with Ohio being most recent

1:22:45

just yesterday. officially ah, that a

1:22:47

band. It. So. I think

1:22:49

that's what's neat, what needs to happen one hundred percent.

1:22:51

Or. Know I know you're really appreciate your

1:22:54

time and I know that we've got

1:22:56

you. You know, dumb need to run

1:22:58

our one point one more video for

1:23:00

you about Bad Society of Bathrooms having

1:23:02

you know where you know was discussed

1:23:04

earlier the wha? one. the problems is

1:23:06

is no save space for women are

1:23:08

we not? When protected and longer this

1:23:11

is an altercation happens over that is

1:23:13

to goodness. Knows. The

1:23:16

know. What to

1:23:18

say? Zoo or is Man

1:23:21

was handsome. Man.

1:23:31

Zero. Was one

1:23:33

of the voters of was isn't What

1:23:35

was it. Was

1:23:37

his mother? Of

1:23:48

one flew over. From

1:23:51

his boys a woman fell through. So

1:23:53

many cynicism for your father must be

1:23:55

so rude. This

1:24:00

is an ongoing conversation. More more restaurants and

1:24:02

places that I go have these sir. Gender

1:24:04

neutral bathrooms is all sorts of things going

1:24:07

on or other save for me, you know

1:24:09

I have a young daughter. When you think

1:24:11

the sending your child off to a bathroom,

1:24:13

there used to be some sense that ah,

1:24:16

it would be safe. Is it safe? Do

1:24:18

you feel like it's safe to have these

1:24:20

bathrooms were. You know all you

1:24:22

have to do is say you're a woman

1:24:24

in you get to go in, there are

1:24:26

and be with everybody else. The a bottleneck?

1:24:28

No. No. I think it's

1:24:31

a huge problem and I think it's

1:24:33

very dangerous, especially when it comes to

1:24:35

locker rooms in are in gyms. Man:

1:24:38

Full grown man section. Just say I'm

1:24:40

a woman. You know it's it's with

1:24:42

They can look completely like the man

1:24:44

that is a seder woman and get

1:24:47

right. And I know that's incredibly dangerous.

1:24:49

Ah, and I don't understand why society

1:24:51

is placing the feelings of man. I'm.

1:24:54

Over the well being of women and children

1:24:56

when it comes to this. Ah, you know,

1:24:58

I think. I'm. There are

1:25:00

a lot of trans people that have no

1:25:03

intention of harming anybody that just have to

1:25:05

go to the bathroom and I think in

1:25:07

that scenario you know if there isn't a

1:25:09

gender neutral space that is what should. That

1:25:12

is where they should go on. By.

1:25:14

The I think it's very dangerous

1:25:16

and very wrong. I'm for for

1:25:18

men to just use the women's

1:25:20

room. It's I don't. I

1:25:22

don't understand why people think it's

1:25:24

okay, and I certainly don't. The

1:25:27

As you. one more question because obviously

1:25:30

you know you grow up. You went

1:25:32

to school. Ah, I'm at what is

1:25:34

there an age at which you know

1:25:37

if we're going to in. You know

1:25:39

you want everyone to feel okay about

1:25:41

who they are. You don't want depression.

1:25:44

I get words is confusing. Thompson, I

1:25:46

get that the desire is it makes

1:25:48

it. It's the people feel accepted even

1:25:51

if their feelings and ideas maybe different

1:25:53

than someone else. Does your group or

1:25:55

do you think about. At what point

1:25:57

is it in junior high or high? school

1:26:00

should a child be allowed to express

1:26:02

themselves or have somewhere to go or

1:26:04

have an understanding so that they can

1:26:07

feel like they have a place in

1:26:10

in society when

1:26:12

they start realizing I'm not like everyone

1:26:14

else around me I mean how do

1:26:17

we as a society

1:26:19

protect and take care of

1:26:22

that journey for those individuals?

1:26:26

No I really appreciate that question you

1:26:28

know I think there's a big difference

1:26:30

between making you know teaching children that

1:26:32

you respect everybody the same no matter

1:26:35

what they who they are what they

1:26:37

like what their family looks like I

1:26:39

think the extent of that kind of

1:26:41

teaching should

1:26:44

be that you know and yeah

1:26:46

I mean when when kids start

1:26:48

getting to the age where they

1:26:51

have boyfriends and girlfriends

1:26:53

and are growing up and developing I

1:26:55

think that yeah it's I

1:26:58

think that it's important for kids

1:27:00

to feel welcome and have a

1:27:02

space I just don't think that

1:27:04

what we're seeing now in our

1:27:06

education system resembles

1:27:08

anything remotely appropriate you

1:27:11

know right now in schools

1:27:14

all across America and in libraries in

1:27:16

schools all across America there

1:27:18

is straight-up porn being given to these

1:27:20

kids and they're doing so

1:27:22

these books you know they say that

1:27:24

they're LGBTQ plus books when you know

1:27:26

we have we take great offense to

1:27:29

that we don't want to be represented

1:27:31

in this way I've always said that

1:27:33

they're using our community as and as

1:27:35

one of our members said in that

1:27:38

testimony that we are being used to escape

1:27:40

those to push this agenda on to kids

1:27:43

so you know I think we need to focus

1:27:45

on getting that problem out of schools and getting

1:27:47

things back to an appropriate

1:27:50

age appropriate level but

1:27:52

no I Don't think the solution

1:27:54

is to shun or make any child

1:27:56

feel uncomfortable. It's just a matter of

1:27:58

age appropriateness. And not pushing

1:28:00

any ideas on to them that they're not. Ready

1:28:03

for. Low. And what you're

1:28:05

talking about A child predator. To be

1:28:07

straight, they can be gay. The can

1:28:09

be anything that that preys on children.

1:28:11

Do you feel like as you said

1:28:13

this scapegoat or this that it's really

1:28:15

giving cover to dangerous people for children's

1:28:17

being allowed to get into the teachers

1:28:20

of job teaching and be close. Children

1:28:22

used to be and we we. There's

1:28:24

web sites to tell you this is

1:28:26

how present your neighborhood whatever. But if

1:28:28

someone has that instincts is Susan Me

1:28:30

Be a lot easier to now to

1:28:32

get yourself close to children's. And as

1:28:34

well because nobody's allowed to ask the right

1:28:36

questions, do you have a similar concerned about

1:28:38

that? Oh a thousand

1:28:41

percent. that is like our biggest concern.

1:28:43

You know that's the these people is

1:28:45

disgusting. People have opened the door wide

1:28:47

open for pet of absolute pedophiles. A

1:28:50

child predators walk right through. Ah, there's

1:28:52

no safeguard. more of the most innocent,

1:28:54

vulnerable, vulnerable people in society. Ah, it's

1:28:56

It's terrifying. And yeah, that's a huge

1:28:59

concern that we've that I've had since

1:29:01

day one. Arm, You know it. It

1:29:03

really is opening the door for them

1:29:05

and they must be incredibly happy right

1:29:07

now The see what's happening and and.

1:29:10

I'm you know that anybody that

1:29:12

is against that arm and wants

1:29:14

to protect children are being written

1:29:17

off as the bad guys and

1:29:19

been labeled are terrorists and whatnot,

1:29:21

which we've had our fair share

1:29:23

of as well. Why

1:29:26

you know I won a lot of just want

1:29:28

to give you an opportunity. I'm sort of people

1:29:30

watch now the would like to be involved to

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see the work that you doing. Odd that would

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hard we follow the work that you're doing. You're

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bald and is important cases across the country so

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There you go. Wow. Look

1:30:28

at that. I want that graphic actually. All

1:30:30

right. We'll give it to you. No,

1:30:32

but I appreciate that so much. Thank

1:30:35

you for having me. I just encourage people

1:30:38

to go to our site and keep up with what we're

1:30:40

doing and help us if you can because we

1:30:42

have a long road ahead of us. We're winning.

1:30:45

I really am hopeful for the future. I think that

1:30:47

we will eventually win this. I just hope it's sooner

1:30:49

than later. Jamie, you're

1:30:52

courageous. We love having people on our show

1:30:54

that are not afraid to speak out and

1:30:56

do something about the issues

1:30:58

that they're concerned about. Keep up the good work

1:31:00

and keep us posted. Does any changes or something

1:31:03

that you're working on that you'd like to talk

1:31:05

about in the future? Definitely.

1:31:07

I'd love to come back. Thank you again for

1:31:09

having me. All right. Take

1:31:12

care. Well, what happens?

1:31:15

How far does this go? Where is

1:31:17

it too far? That's the question that

1:31:19

I think many people are grappling with.

1:31:21

As I said before, we want to

1:31:24

make sure that people feel safe, that

1:31:26

they feel protected. But

1:31:29

is it possible that a convicted

1:31:31

sex offender should be a protected

1:31:33

class? I saw this

1:31:35

video and it blew my mind. Watch

1:31:37

this. We

1:31:41

have a code of ethics on

1:31:43

this board and Thomas Whitaker, Raven

1:31:45

Crowfoot, is a sex offender,

1:31:47

a repeat sex offender. I

1:31:50

have had a bad experience

1:31:53

with him. I'm going to touch you

1:31:55

up because we can't disclose people's personal

1:31:57

business here, right? Okay. with

1:32:00

disclosure, like we have no right to

1:32:02

out anybody in this space. Okay.

1:32:05

Okay. I thought that's just

1:32:07

not okay at all. And

1:32:09

I won't stand for that as a co-chair. We're

1:32:12

not here to discover people's backgrounds. And

1:32:15

actually I'm glad that if that is the

1:32:17

case that he's here, because sex offenders are

1:32:19

another population that is

1:32:21

most vulnerable that don't have housing. Okay.

1:32:23

I have nothing to do with what

1:32:25

he has touched me. He

1:32:27

has touched me. So

1:32:30

there's a meeting where he's at. Christina, you need

1:32:32

to take this to the police then. Christina.

1:32:35

I have. I have. This

1:32:37

is not the forum. Kristy,

1:32:40

stop. As the co-chair, I'm telling you

1:32:42

that you cannot talk like that in

1:32:44

this meeting. I will

1:32:46

not have that here. If

1:32:49

anyone wants to talk like that, you will be muted and then

1:32:51

removed from this meeting, board member or public or not. This

1:32:57

is about equity and

1:33:00

everyone, everyone deserves housing. I

1:33:03

don't care if they're a sex offender. I don't care if

1:33:05

they're black. I don't care if they're

1:33:07

indigenous. I don't care if they're a criminal. I

1:33:10

don't care if they're coming out

1:33:13

of jail, prison. Everyone deserves housing.

1:33:15

Desserts housing. Okay.

1:33:17

Okay, Sinead, we got you. No,

1:33:20

it's not okay. That's the point. And

1:33:22

so when we talk about a code of

1:33:24

ethics here at the CLC board, we will

1:33:27

be respectful of all people, all

1:33:29

inclusivity. Our code of access is that

1:33:31

this is an inclusive space and

1:33:33

we are equitable to all. Now,

1:33:36

you know,

1:33:38

that conversation, let's be clear. This

1:33:41

is a conversation on should this

1:33:43

be a board member of what

1:33:45

I gather is a group that

1:33:47

runs homeless housing, right? It's not

1:33:49

to decide whether this person should

1:33:51

be allowed to have a house

1:33:53

as being, you know, stated there.

1:33:55

It's, is this person appropriate to

1:33:57

run the board and decide how

1:33:59

this. housing works for. I'm guessing

1:34:01

there may be children and families and

1:34:03

one of the people that

1:34:06

is a part of this nominating committee is

1:34:08

saying that this person has been arrested and

1:34:12

convicted multiple times and has even assaulted

1:34:14

me. And then she starts getting screamed

1:34:16

at for bringing that up. Apparently that

1:34:18

is not allowed to be spoken about.

1:34:21

We are not allowed to talk about

1:34:23

the fact that this person has assaulted

1:34:25

you. That is a guest

1:34:27

hate speech. I mean, that is

1:34:29

not allowed to be a criteria of

1:34:31

this board of directors. I'm

1:34:34

you know, I think that it speaks

1:34:36

for itself. I don't want to go too far

1:34:38

here. I just want to say if

1:34:41

you like me sometimes feel like you were

1:34:43

on the crazy trade. I just want you

1:34:45

to know you're not alone. I

1:34:47

think we have work to do. I

1:34:49

think that there is what's reasonable. I

1:34:52

think that we all want to, you

1:34:54

know, see a free country and see

1:34:56

people allowed to express themselves. But what

1:34:59

we are seeing now is what could

1:35:01

very potentially be dangerous for our children,

1:35:03

dangerous for their future, dangerous for the

1:35:05

future of our species, our education system.

1:35:07

And if we start seeing sex offenders

1:35:10

being treated as a protected class, I

1:35:12

think we're going to be in real,

1:35:14

real trouble. We are on a slippery

1:35:16

slope here. And how we get out,

1:35:18

we're going to have to do it

1:35:20

very carefully. We're going to have to

1:35:22

do it kindly in a

1:35:24

loving way. But for those of you that

1:35:27

are watching, I think we've proved

1:35:29

today that we're not afraid to talk about these

1:35:31

topics, especially what it has to do with our

1:35:33

kids. And as I've said through this entire

1:35:35

show, whether you disagree with

1:35:37

me or do you think I should be

1:35:39

harsher about it or whatever your perspective is,

1:35:42

it should be on the

1:35:44

table. It should be on the table

1:35:46

in front of us. We should all

1:35:48

be a part of these conversations. And

1:35:50

if we feel like we can no

1:35:52

longer express ourselves that we have to

1:35:54

keep it quiet, we've got to whisper

1:35:56

in restaurants or we've got to whisper

1:35:58

to our friends or we can't. can't

1:36:00

bring it up in school board

1:36:02

meetings, or we're worried that we're

1:36:04

gonna be labeled as domestic terrorists,

1:36:06

all of those thoughts, all of

1:36:08

those notions are a sign that

1:36:10

the freest country in the world

1:36:12

is collapsing, that the dream of

1:36:14

our forefathers is falling apart, that

1:36:16

the idea of free speech, though

1:36:18

that speech may hurt some people's

1:36:20

feelings, it must always be free

1:36:22

or you are not free. And

1:36:26

we have seen through history, even Jewish

1:36:28

people that have stood up for the rights of

1:36:31

anti-Semitic people to speak their truth,

1:36:34

we've watched time and time again,

1:36:36

blacks and whites in this conversation,

1:36:38

but here's the point, we've got

1:36:41

to be able to have the

1:36:43

conversation. We can't be afraid of

1:36:45

the conversation because we cannot find

1:36:47

the balance if we're not all

1:36:50

allowed onto the balance beam. So

1:36:53

please, let's start working

1:36:55

towards having these conversations. Start in safe

1:36:57

places with people it's easy to talk

1:36:59

to, and then work your way out,

1:37:02

so that we can start getting to

1:37:04

a place where we can get to

1:37:06

be leaders once again in the idea

1:37:08

of communication, of

1:37:11

inclusiveness, of reasonability,

1:37:13

of standards, of laws, of

1:37:15

rules, and how we all

1:37:18

move amongst each other without

1:37:20

hurting anybody. I believe

1:37:22

children are being hurt. We need to

1:37:24

do something about that. For

1:37:27

that reason, we're going to keep having these conversations.

1:37:29

I want to thank you for joining us this

1:37:31

week. It's been interesting. I'm sure

1:37:34

next week will be too, and I'll see

1:37:36

you there on the high wire. Thank

1:37:56

you. you