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Let's do this. Action. Good

1:01

morning, good afternoon, good evening. Wherever you are

1:03

out there in the world, how about we

1:06

all step out onto the high wire? Well,

1:09

it's Women's History Month and,

1:11

you know, all across America.

1:13

We've been celebrating all the

1:15

great historical accomplishments that women

1:18

have brought to our lives, to this

1:20

world. And of course, since we focus

1:22

here a lot on medical tyranny and

1:24

the fight to hold

1:27

onto body sovereignty and, you

1:29

know, health freedom, at the

1:31

heart of that, as said it so

1:33

many times, really is the warrior moms. It's

1:36

the warrior moms that have just really gone

1:38

out of their way to speak

1:40

out about the health of their

1:42

children, to discuss ways that we

1:44

can improve government. And gone even

1:46

a step further, went after I

1:48

made VACs and started traveling the

1:51

country, have figured out how to

1:53

write legislation to get inside of

1:55

the capitals and meet with politicians

1:57

and develop teams and, you know,

1:59

non-profits. prophets that can really

2:01

make a difference in this space. Every

2:04

day, I have

2:07

to reflect on the giants whose shoulders

2:10

that I now stand upon and the work

2:12

that we do here at ICANN really

2:15

would not be possible

2:17

if it weren't for

2:19

some really incredibly powerful,

2:21

dynamic, bold, wonderful, beautiful

2:24

women. And today we're gonna go through some

2:26

of the history and some looking back on

2:28

people that maybe you didn't even know

2:31

really affected your life in

2:33

this space. But before

2:35

we do that, I want to speak with

2:38

one of my favorite women on this planet

2:40

about our economy. What is

2:42

our economy doing? What are the things that are

2:45

coming after us? Is there anything we can do

2:47

about it? I actually have a lot of questions

2:50

that I'm hoping to have answered

2:52

about topics like this. The

2:55

American people, particularly the

2:57

middle class, are being

2:59

absolutely crushed by

3:01

inflation. House prices have gone

3:03

up, mortgage rates, and people's

3:05

rents. Sky high inflation,

3:07

that remains incredibly sticky and

3:10

persistent. Rising energy

3:12

prices, rising housing costs. The

3:14

top 10%, particularly the top 1%,

3:17

and even more so the top 0.1%, took in much of

3:19

the gains from

3:21

the growth of these countries. 81%,

3:24

including Democrats, don't like the direction they're

3:27

unhappy with the direction of America. 83%

3:31

economic conditions fair to poor. 76%

3:33

believe economy is getting worse. There

3:35

are 25 states raising their minimum

3:38

wage starting next year. But businesses

3:40

likely will have to increase their prices

3:42

according to one expert to offset some

3:45

of these new added monies,

3:47

and that is just one of a

3:49

number of changes taking effect.

3:51

You're gonna see reduced employment in all

3:53

the states, essentially, where this is taking

3:55

place. This is just going to pour

3:57

more gasoline on that fire. labor

4:00

market start to weaken. Tyson Foods has

4:02

its eyes on a different class of

4:04

workers. The company is

4:06

now offering new jobs to asylum

4:09

seekers in other states like New

4:11

York. The company's excuse, migrants

4:13

are getting the jobs that Americans

4:16

don't want. It reduces the wages

4:18

of American workers by replacing American

4:20

citizens with foreign laborers who are

4:22

willing to work at slave wages.

4:24

That is the decimation of the

4:26

American middle class and it's happening

4:28

all over the country. Well,

4:33

to get to the bottom of some

4:35

of these very complex issues is my

4:37

pleasure to be joined by Catherine Austin

4:39

Fitch, he's an investment banker and economist.

4:42

First of all, you've been very

4:44

outspoken in the space I talk

4:46

about a lot about vaccines, medical

4:48

freedom. So thank you for your

4:51

courage in that space. It

4:53

is a perilous space to speak in

4:55

and you have never held back. Well,

4:59

thank you, Del. It's always an opportunity to be

5:01

on the high wire. I do wanna say, so

5:03

for 10 years I was an investment advisor and

5:06

I no longer am doing that job

5:08

but one of the things I discovered

5:10

to my shock and amazement which is part of

5:12

what brought me to you in the high wire

5:15

is the number one reason I found

5:17

for the diminution of family wealth was

5:19

what I call the great poisoning. So

5:22

families were being financially

5:25

very much influenced or even decimated

5:27

by the deterioration in pharmaceuticals and

5:29

deterioration in the food and water

5:31

supply and other forms of toxins.

5:34

And so the great poisoning is really

5:36

very connected with financial wellbeing and of

5:39

course, as you know, healthcare

5:41

costs are one of the major reasons for

5:44

bankruptcy in this country. So

5:47

the number one thing families listening to

5:49

this need to do is to protect

5:51

themselves from the great poisoning. And I

5:53

think part of it is we just have to recognize

5:56

that it's really happening. And if we know that, then

5:58

we can start to... start

6:00

to do all the things that you

6:02

and your show recommend about what we can do to avoid

6:04

it. That's such a

6:07

great point as you know, we've said

6:09

before, we've watched an increase from about

6:11

like 12% chronic illness in our children

6:13

in the 1980s. It

6:16

skyrocketed to 54% and

6:18

the last time we really handed that data at 54% came

6:20

to us in

6:23

2016 based on data from 2012. So

6:26

it's very disturbing to even try

6:28

and ponder where we may actually

6:30

be at now with all of

6:33

the industrial chemicals, all the

6:35

forever chemicals, all the injections, all

6:37

of these things going on, COVID vaccine

6:39

is going to add to that. So

6:41

it's such a great point and the

6:43

burden just there alone when you deal

6:46

with the more serious issues like neurological

6:48

disorders, the cost is so incredible and

6:50

there's really these parents are being left,

6:52

you know, fitting the bill and hanging

6:54

on for dear life. I

6:56

remember the cost is not just financial cost,

6:59

it's time, the impact on a family's time

7:01

and the ability to raise all the siblings

7:03

properly is devastating. So

7:05

whenever I see these kinds of

7:08

poisonings, particularly the neurological damage, what

7:10

I'm looking at is bankruptcy. Yeah,

7:13

yeah, it's really it's a sad state of

7:16

affairs and it needs to be fixed. And

7:18

I, you know, I really have hope that

7:20

if we all, you know, really got engaged

7:22

with these issues and started making it a

7:24

priority to have conversations with everyone we know,

7:26

we could actually shift this. I still believe

7:28

we are, you know, living in a nation

7:31

that is, you know, for the

7:33

people by the people, we're hanging on to

7:35

a thread by that idea, which is some

7:37

of what we'll talk about, but it's still

7:39

possible, more possible here than anywhere else in

7:41

the world. We should utilize that to our

7:43

advantage. Well, let me let me

7:45

go down because there's so many actions people can

7:47

take. So the first thing is if you protect

7:49

yourself against the great poisoning, very important

7:51

thing to do. One of

7:53

the biggest reasons between the discrepancy

7:55

between the wealthy and the

7:57

middle class getting squeezed is cost of cash.

8:00

So we have the big banks paying 0% for

8:03

their cost of capital or 1% or

8:05

getting bailed out and getting capital for

8:07

free. Whereas most Americans are

8:09

paying 17% for their

8:12

plus on their credit card, you know, and high

8:14

prices on the mortgage. Now, I dare say if

8:16

your neighbor could buy all the homes

8:18

in your neighborhood for 0 or 1%

8:20

and you had to pay 5 or 7% on your

8:23

mortgage, you know what's going to

8:25

happen after many years still, right? So part of

8:28

this is that... I

8:30

want to address that right there because it's

8:32

such an interesting point and it's one that

8:35

I grapple with, which

8:37

is this whole idea of sort of

8:39

trickle down. We should give tax breaks

8:41

and as you said, these giant corporations

8:44

get their money at such a reduced

8:46

cost. And now we're watching BlackRock, State

8:48

Street Bank, like these different companies, like

8:51

buying up businesses, buying mom and pop shops. We're

8:53

going to the plumber. We think we're hiring a

8:56

plumber that's been in business for 50 years. We

8:58

find out they're just a part of a giant conglomerate. We're

9:01

seeing this in the housing market.

9:03

We're competing now with these massive

9:05

investment banks that are, you know,

9:07

and so how do we do

9:09

that? And it's not

9:11

fair. We're not living in a

9:13

fair and balanced environment. Well,

9:15

first of all, it's not

9:18

an unfair environment. We're dealing with a financial

9:20

code. Okay. So

9:23

this is engineered

9:25

top down and there are many

9:27

aspects to it, but one of

9:30

them is the insiders have one

9:32

cost of capital and the outsiders have the other,

9:34

you know, a much higher cost of capital. As

9:36

a result, the outsiders get harvested and

9:39

the insiders, you know, end up centralizing

9:41

ownership and control of everything. Okay.

9:43

And it's engineered both through the

9:45

monetary policies and the fiscal policies.

9:48

But the first thing we need to do is

9:51

understand this is really going on and we need

9:53

to get ourselves out of a debt trap. So

9:56

anything we can do, one tip

9:58

to use cash, preserve cash. because

10:00

the more the system goes all digital, the

10:02

more control and the more games they can

10:04

play. So one is we can use

10:06

cash. Two, get yourself into a great community bank

10:09

instead of a bank who plays games, decimates

10:12

your privacy as we've seen from this

10:14

recent report on the weaponization of government,

10:17

and then get out of debt if you can. Even

10:19

if you have to go to extraordinary lengths, get out

10:21

of debt, this debt is a debt trap. And we

10:23

see countries all around the world in a debt trap.

10:26

The team going around and saying, let's get out of,

10:28

you know, let's not agree to the who amendments.

10:30

Leaders are saying, but we're in a debt

10:32

trap. The bankers have cut off our money.

10:35

So whether it's individually or as a family,

10:37

we have to get out of a debt trap, and then

10:39

we have to help our jurisdictions get out of a debt

10:41

trap too. So understand the differential

10:44

between the cost of capital. Part

10:46

of that is anticipating inflation. Many

10:49

families have gotten surprised

10:51

by the extent of the inflation and the

10:54

dirty tricks involved in the inflation. So

10:56

one of the things we see is

10:59

a new video out on one of the retail

11:01

stores that's saying on their shelves, the price is

11:03

X, and you check out, and the price

11:05

is X plus 10 or 20%. I've

11:08

been traveling all across the country

11:10

and staying, you know, doing car rental

11:12

companies or hotels, and it's the same game,

11:15

Dell. I mean, it's a scam. So

11:17

anything you can do to understand

11:19

the inflation game and the dirty

11:21

tricks, you know, anticipate.

11:24

One of the greatest opportunities for

11:26

every family and every person, because

11:29

we're in election year, 74%,

11:31

I think, of the global population

11:33

has an election this year. And

11:35

of course we have presidential elections

11:38

and significant elections at state and

11:40

local in the United States. One

11:43

of the things that's amazing, there are leaders

11:46

fighting for us when it comes to

11:48

our cost of capital or the

11:50

dirty tricks that we're dealing with, or the great poisoning, as

11:52

you know, I mean, there are great leaders fighting.

11:55

And it's amazing, because I've been

11:57

working with both congressional leaders and-

12:00

the state legislatures and

12:02

it's amazing, Dale, how little support the

12:04

good guys get. Yeah.

12:07

So this is an election cycle. This is a time

12:09

when we all come out in the campaigns. We

12:12

need, if everybody took their money out of

12:14

the banks that are playing these games

12:16

and was scamming us with cost of

12:18

capital and put

12:22

their backing behind the political

12:24

leadership that is really trying to solve the

12:26

problems. Oh my God. Do you have any

12:28

idea what a revolution there would be in

12:30

this country? Yeah, it's really, it's

12:33

exciting. Those people are out there.

12:37

We see it happening. Let me ask

12:39

you a couple of specific questions that

12:41

are really in the news right now.

12:43

That Tyson story, Tyson is firing legal

12:46

workers, closing down plants in

12:49

some areas, but hiring what

12:51

they call refugees. But

12:53

I'm assuming these are sort of undocumented

12:55

workers that come into the country, you

12:59

know, qualify for some reason, and

13:01

they're hiring them to fill these

13:03

plants. Does that,

13:06

does that have any effect on

13:08

your average consumer? Does that have

13:10

an effect on jobs and employment?

13:12

Because it seems to me we

13:15

have people that will take those jobs

13:17

and we are told the, you don't

13:19

have to worry about it. Nobody's going

13:21

to take those jobs. Only refugees would

13:23

take those jobs. So what are your

13:25

thoughts on that subject? So

13:28

the folks who spin this are lying to

13:30

you. Now, it's true that there are jobs

13:32

that immigrants are more willing to do

13:34

or could do a better job at. So

13:37

I'm not saying that dynamic isn't here, but if

13:40

you look at what's going with the poisoning of

13:42

the population and the incredible

13:44

immigration, which is being financed by

13:46

the leadership. So this is

13:48

not just being allowed, it is being financed

13:50

and engineered. So we are seeing immigration weaponized

13:53

and financed by the leadership. And

13:56

this is a replacement population. You're

13:58

basically poisoning one person. population and

14:00

replacing it with another population. And

14:03

it's intentional. It's part of building the control

14:05

grid. And

14:08

I think it helps to see things

14:11

in a simple, clear manner. There's

14:14

a wonderful new article that James Kuntzler just

14:16

wrote. He said, politics is

14:18

now divided between the sane and the

14:20

insane. And the sane have realized that

14:23

all these different spins, so he used

14:25

climate change and some others, all these

14:27

different spins are just cudgels using that

14:29

they're using to basically kill us and

14:31

take our stuff. And

14:34

the beauty is, if you understand it's

14:36

really that simple, this is a coup.

14:39

They're using these sort of excuses as

14:41

a cudgel to kill you and take your stuff. Then

14:44

you can start to know what to do, because

14:47

there are millions of things we can do.

14:49

There are millions of actions we can take.

14:52

And a very small portion of the

14:54

population is

14:56

taking the actions they need to take just

14:59

to protect themselves. So another

15:03

thing we can do, Del, is get very

15:05

serious about privacy. So

15:08

the more invasive, the more the one-way

15:10

mirror can see what I'm doing, but

15:13

keep government money secret. And we know

15:15

the laws have changed. Part of our

15:18

biggest challenges is the federal government

15:20

has changed the administrative policies

15:22

and has taken the position that they

15:25

can keep government money secret.

15:29

And so in my community, there are

15:31

large corporations being paid $100, $125 an hour to do a

15:33

function that

15:36

one of my neighbors would love to do for $25 plus

15:40

health care. But

15:42

the financial disclosure is not there to see

15:45

it. If

15:47

tomorrow everybody got financial statements

15:49

for their jurisdiction of

15:51

the government money, if

15:53

I own a stock, I get an annual report.

15:55

If I got an annual report from my congressional

15:57

district, I assure you there would be a revolution.

16:00

Because the amount of money

16:02

being, you know, being funneled

16:04

into large corporations in

16:07

a way that makes their stock go up. And of course,

16:09

the big one, of course, was the pandemic. We

16:12

shut down Main Street and we shift

16:14

their market share to Wall Street. Wall

16:17

Street stock skyrocket and

16:19

it's basically a taking.

16:22

You took the business from Main Street

16:24

and you ran it through publicly traded stocks. You

16:27

got a big pop when your stock and the rich are

16:29

getting richer. You know, but it was

16:31

really, I don't know if you remember it,

16:33

there was one great moment when one

16:35

commentator on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange

16:37

was saying, well, wait a minute,

16:40

how come we have to close these

16:42

20 small businesses, but this big

16:44

box store right next door in the same

16:46

shopping mall can stay open and it's packed

16:48

and their parking lot is packed. And

16:51

the other said, oh, well, that's science.

16:53

The virus doesn't go in the

16:56

big box store. It really

16:58

is. It's funny if it

17:00

wasn't so tragic and

17:02

we've watched it. We've watched, you know, it

17:05

really crosses party lines. This theft of the

17:07

middle class has happened, you know, in my

17:09

mind, no matter who's in office, but I'm

17:11

not going to get political about this. I

17:14

do have an issue that is getting

17:16

me into arguments and I'd be the

17:18

first to say I'm really an artist.

17:20

I'm really into this science stuff. I'm

17:22

a filmmaker. I am not

17:25

an economist. And, you know, if

17:27

you saw how I run my finances that

17:29

would probably, you know, back that up. But

17:31

I want to

17:33

say this like the question around minimum

17:35

wage. When I

17:37

saw just in that in that video that

17:39

played that there's still states paying seven twenty

17:41

five an hour, which is maybe

17:43

just two dollars more than I made thirty

17:46

years ago when I was, you know, working

17:48

my way up as

17:50

a teenager and then a young adult. And

17:53

inflation just seems to me that it

17:55

has skyrocketed past that we are living

17:57

in a different day and age. Yet this

17:59

argument. argument keeps being made, if you

18:02

raise minimum wage, that cost is going

18:04

to be on the consumer, it'll actually

18:06

hit the middle class and

18:09

the poor, and they won't be

18:11

able to buy groceries or eat

18:13

at a McDonald's or whatever that

18:15

argument that's being made. But it

18:17

seems to me that

18:19

what that says is so

18:21

that cost won't be coming

18:24

from the CEOs that are

18:26

still making millions

18:28

of dollars or from the

18:30

stock, it's all just being put on

18:32

the consumer. But then the argument I

18:35

hear is, well, what about the smaller

18:37

businesses? They can't handle that. So

18:39

what is your

18:42

take on minimum wage? Are we just

18:44

going to ... Because here's my question.

18:46

Let me be more specific. It seems

18:48

to me if we don't pay people

18:50

enough that they can feed themselves worth,

18:52

if you're working a 40-hour week, even

18:54

if it's at a coffee shop or

18:56

McDonald's, you used to be able to

18:58

have a cheap apartment and make it

19:00

buy, striving to do better, but I

19:02

wasn't on food stamps. My parents didn't

19:04

give me money. I worked in restaurants

19:06

and I did things and was able

19:08

to survive in New York City doing

19:10

that. And now I feel like as

19:12

we contain this and say, well,

19:15

we don't want to put it on the

19:17

consumer, but really we're all paying taxes that

19:19

go to food stamps and assistance programs. So

19:21

we're paying them one way or the other,

19:23

aren't we? That's sort of

19:25

where my question is at. So

19:28

it is true that the higher you

19:30

make minimum wage, the more

19:32

incentive businesses have to automate or the

19:34

harder it can be for startups or

19:37

small business. So

19:39

I'm not saying there isn't some legitimacy

19:41

to that, but the

19:43

basic premise of Dell is what

19:45

we're saying is it's much more

19:47

economic for everybody to have inhuman

19:50

working conditions and people who

19:52

can't afford to live or take proper

19:54

care of themselves and their family. And

19:57

we need to run a society where

19:59

we're working people live an

20:01

uncivilized existence. This is ridiculous.

20:04

Yeah. So, yeah, and if

20:06

you look at the massive subsidy

20:08

going into corporations and large banks,

20:11

and the illegalities of the,

20:14

I mean, right now, the

20:16

US government has

20:19

broken all of the

20:21

financial or a significant number of the

20:23

financial management law for decades, and

20:25

trillions of dollars are missing from the

20:28

US government. There's over 21 trillion that

20:30

we know of before they took the

20:32

book, Secret. I assure you, there is

20:34

enough money for everybody to live a

20:36

civilized existence. For example, I

20:39

go back and forth between Tennessee and the Netherlands.

20:41

In the Netherlands, the average holiday

20:45

for people in Northern Europe

20:48

is 40 to 50 days a year. At

20:51

the United States, it's 10 days. Try and

20:53

be healthy. Right. Do you

20:55

know what the difference is when you

20:57

walk, and the food in Europe is

21:00

so far superior. It's unbelievable. So, when

21:02

you walk around Northern Europe and you

21:04

see the health of people, it's significantly

21:06

improved relative to US because literally

21:09

the US worker is living

21:11

under inhumane conditions, and they

21:13

can't be productive. I

21:15

can't be productive if I'm being poisoned

21:18

and I'm not getting enough sleep. Okay.

21:22

I mean, the whole thing is a ridiculous

21:24

discussion. It comes

21:26

back to whether are we going to try

21:28

and liquidate our population, or are we going

21:30

to try and build a real human civilization.

21:32

It's simple. It's simple. Many

21:35

of these things are in

21:37

fact, when the World Economic

21:39

Forum says it's 2030 and

21:41

you have no assets,

21:44

all of these are simply mechanisms

21:46

they're using to basically take all

21:48

your assets. If your

21:50

cost of capital is 17% and

21:52

mine is zero, it's a matter until I

21:55

buy all your stuff. Right? Yeah.

21:58

You're just slowly going to take it off for me, which is...

22:00

what we've seen over the last

22:02

several years and that's my feeling. There

22:05

is rivers of money flowing through the

22:07

United States of America and there's

22:10

just a tiny group of people that

22:12

are literally holding everybody else back from

22:14

even getting a sip from that river.

22:16

It's getting ridiculous. Well

22:18

part of the problem is that river

22:20

of money makes things very unproductive and

22:23

and that's hurting everybody. Here's the

22:25

good news and I give credit

22:27

to Mary Holland of Children's Health Defense

22:30

who pointed this out to me. There's

22:32

a TED Talk of an academic who

22:34

went back and studied revolutions and the

22:36

first thing they discovered was that revolutions,

22:40

civil disobedience revolutions were much more

22:42

successful than violent revolutions because they

22:44

were so inclusive but here was

22:47

the really good news. It

22:49

only took 3.5% of the population to engineer a successful

22:54

revolution. So when I

22:56

say if we shift our money, if

22:58

we stop financing they're great poisoning, if

23:00

we stop banking at the banks who

23:02

are playing this game and engineering

23:05

the monetary inflation to basically

23:07

bankrupt us or engineering the

23:09

pandemic, if we shift

23:11

our money and we shift our

23:14

support behind the political leaders who

23:16

are doing incredible things at the

23:18

local, state and federal level,

23:21

it doesn't take but 3.5% to really set off a revolution and

23:23

I you

23:26

know I think the time has come

23:29

when people realize oh it's simple it's

23:31

simple this is simple

23:33

let's let's you know it's

23:35

time for the same to take back

23:38

power from the insane. I

23:40

love that let's do that so it's

23:42

a revolution of the same getting

23:44

back to charge. If you want to follow all the great

23:47

work that you do where do we go to check that

23:49

out? Go to Solaria

23:51

our whole we have

23:53

a building wealth curriculum because what we need

23:55

Dell is a reset that builds wealth and

23:57

if the same take things back we can

24:00

and build tremendous new wealth, tremendous.

24:03

Fantastic. Katherine Austin Fitz, you are gonna go

24:05

down in history as one of the great

24:08

women of our time. It's an

24:10

honor and pleasure to know you, to get to work with

24:12

you, and that you would take the time to share this

24:14

insight with us today. Truly appreciate it, thank

24:16

you. Thank you, Joe.

24:18

All right, take care. Well,

24:21

we have a huge show still coming up.

24:23

I mean, one of the biggest heroes in

24:25

the medical freedom movement, Dr. Suzanne Humphries. I

24:27

haven't had the opportunity to speak with her

24:30

for some time, the 10th anniversary of her

24:32

book, Dissolving Illusions, is hitting

24:34

stores as we speak. We're gonna

24:36

talk about what additions, what new

24:39

materials are there, and what she's

24:41

up to. I'm gonna talk to

24:43

Dawn Marie, who's been working with

24:45

the spellers, this incredible miracle story.

24:47

Well, the spellers are up to

24:49

some new endeavors,

24:52

and so we're gonna talk about that. But first,

24:54

it's time for the Jackson Report. I

24:58

wish I could just take Catherine Austin Fitz, and

25:06

just have her run my finances for a year,

25:08

and just get it all worked up. So busy,

25:10

I just feel like I'm missing out somewhere in

25:12

here. But what a show, Brad, it's so wonderful.

25:15

What a force. Well, as you

25:17

said, March is Women's History Month, and it would

25:19

take a second to acknowledge some of the incredible

25:21

work that we've done to get to the point

25:24

where we're gonna talk about the women's history. And

25:26

it would take a second to acknowledge some of

25:28

the incredible women that we have

25:30

in the movement that we find ourselves in. This

25:32

is the Health Freedom Movement, someone

25:35

that you just sat down with, Barbara

25:37

Loh Fisher, amazing woman, really one of

25:39

the people that we're all standing on

25:41

the shoulders of, Dr. Suzanne Humphries, we

25:44

have Dr. Sherry Tenpenny

25:46

as well, done amazing work for

25:48

decades. And then, of course, Dr.

25:50

Tony Bark. Oh, yeah. We all

25:52

miss her. So we

25:55

can honor all the women that have done amazing

25:58

work in this space, in this small, small, segment

26:00

here, but we want to highlight just a few

26:02

that you may never have heard of. One

26:05

of those is American virologist Bernice

26:07

Eddy, Dr. Bernice Eddy, who worked

26:09

in the Biologics Control Division at

26:12

the National Institutes of Health for

26:14

several decades. But it was the 1950s when fate came

26:18

knocking at her door. And what was going on then? Well,

26:20

to set this up in 1954, we had Salk's killed vaccine,

26:24

polio vaccine field trials, and

26:27

these were going on throughout the entire

26:29

United States and one organization was in

26:31

charge of that and there was one

26:34

man, Tom Rivers, who was the chairman

26:36

of this organization. It's the National Foundation

26:38

for Infantile Paralysis. They had a vaccine

26:40

advisory committee and they basically oversaw this

26:42

mass clinical trial that was going on.

26:45

And in the history, a

26:47

history of Tom Rivers, we look into this

26:49

book that was published in 1968 and

26:53

from his account, let's just look at this for

26:55

a second to give you an idea of that

26:57

time space. It says in April 1954 on

27:00

the insistence of Dr. James Shannon of the

27:03

NIH, it was further required that a consecutive

27:05

series of batches of vaccine from each commercial

27:07

laboratory must be proven safe before any one

27:09

batch would be considered acceptable for use in

27:12

the field trial. So they're really trying to

27:14

make sure before these vaccines went out to

27:16

this field trial, they want to make sure

27:18

these are really safe for these kids because

27:21

the whole world is watching. They've been building

27:23

this up with media for over a decade

27:25

with the March of Dimes and it goes

27:27

on to say this in this historical account,

27:29

the remarkable fact is that the stringent safety

27:32

test imposed in the vaccine used in the

27:34

field trial of 1954 were

27:37

abandoned when the vaccine was licensed for

27:39

public distribution on 12 April 1955. After

27:42

that day, the laboratory of biologics control

27:44

of the NIH released the accumulated stocks

27:47

of polio vaccine simply on a review

27:49

of the record of the events in

27:51

the manufacture and testing by the manufacturer

27:53

of each lot of vaccine. I

27:56

mean, this rings just like the COVID vaccine.

28:00

This was the moment when this

28:02

entire program

28:04

went south, when we left science and

28:07

just said, oh, let's just trust the

28:10

manufacturers. I'm sure they're telling us the truth about

28:12

their product that they're about to make millions and

28:14

billions off of. Exactly. One for

28:16

testing, one for the rest of the public, and you can

28:18

see the safety testing. Just four

28:20

months later, so this thing goes out,

28:23

just four months later, you have Dr.

28:25

Bernice Eddy working within the NIH, testing

28:27

these polio vaccines, and she discovered something

28:29

quite shocking. For this, we go directly

28:31

to the NIH's own website. Dr.

28:33

Bernice Eddy has a page dedicated to her there, and

28:35

it says this. In August of

28:37

1954, Dr. Bernice Eddy had

28:39

been testing a batch of polio vaccines from

28:41

Cutter Laboratories when she noticed that the vaccine

28:44

had given polio to a test monkey.

28:46

She found that three of the six

28:48

samples had paralyzed test monkeys. Eddy knew

28:50

something was wrong and brought it to

28:53

the attention of her supervisor, Dr. William

28:55

Workman. Workman never told the licensing committee,

28:57

and the Cutter vaccine was approved and

28:59

shipped out, and the rest is history.

29:01

We go to an article

29:03

in the American Journal of Epidemiology looking

29:05

at this incident just several

29:07

years later, and they say this.

29:10

Approximately 400,000 persons, primarily grade school

29:12

children, had been inoculated with Cutter

29:14

vaccine during a 10-day period

29:16

in mid-April over the ensuing two

29:18

months, 94 cases of poliomyelitis among

29:20

Cutter vaccines, 126 cases

29:22

among family contact, and 40 cases

29:24

among community contact attacks of vaccines

29:26

were reported. Even Dr. Paul Offit

29:28

wrote a book on this titled

29:31

The Cutter Incident, and he's looking at

29:33

how this actual situation

29:35

led to a vaccine crisis, he calls it.

29:38

But he says in his book, children given

29:40

Cutter's vaccine were more likely to be paralyzed

29:42

in the arms, more likely to suffer severe

29:44

and permanent paralysis, more likely to require

29:47

breathing assistance in iron lungs, and more

29:49

likely to die than children naturally infected

29:51

with polio. And thank God

29:53

the media was still the media back then

29:56

somewhat, because even Time Magazine in

29:58

1955 posted this

30:01

article under medicine, they called it a vaccine snafu,

30:04

but they were on it. And

30:06

this is all due really to Dr.

30:08

Bernice Eddy. Time magazine writes, many parents

30:10

withdrew or failed to renew consent slips.

30:12

In New York City, the fallout rate

30:14

when shots were given last week ran

30:16

around 30%. In San

30:19

Francisco, about 40%. Most family doctors

30:21

advise parents to go ahead with vaccination,

30:23

but in many cases without enthusiasm. Physicians

30:26

still resented the lack of scientific

30:28

information on the Salk vaccine in

30:30

any medical publication were just

30:33

as confused as everybody else by the public

30:35

health services repeated change of signals. Now, it

30:37

wasn't just cutter vaccine, as it says here

30:39

in Time magazine, it says there

30:41

was other ones too. This is

30:43

as this was unfolding, 1955, Time

30:45

magazine's writes, US mostly Western total

30:48

of such cases reached 78 after

30:51

cutter vaccine, 59, five fatal after

30:53

Eli Lilly and company 14

30:56

and after Wyeth five. And it says

30:58

this in closing in retrospect, a good

31:00

deal of the blame for the vaccine

31:02

snafu. They're calling it also went to

31:04

the national foundation, which with years of

31:07

publicity had built up the danger of

31:09

polio out of proportion to its

31:11

actual incidents and had rushed

31:13

into vaccinations this year with

31:16

patently insufficient preparation. This

31:18

is amazing. In telling

31:20

Dr. Bernice Eddie story, we have

31:22

an historic account. Now we only

31:24

have we have courage, we have

31:26

hope, we have a whistleblower that

31:28

really didn't get full credit in

31:31

the time that she was doing this, but we

31:33

have a lesson on how power centers work when

31:35

it comes to these biomedical injectable

31:38

products. Now we

31:40

go back. So that's not all Bernice said he did.

31:42

So we go back to the NIH's website. So this

31:45

is what they write about her. Amidst the

31:47

controversy, this is the cutter incident amidst the

31:49

controversy, Eddie was relieved of her polio control

31:52

testing duties in 1955. Imagine

31:55

that but continue to work in

31:57

biologics. Eddie continued her groundbreaking research.

32:00

In 1956, she worked with

32:02

Dr. Sarah Stewart of the

32:04

National Cancer Institute. So

32:06

she's taken off Polaroid. She

32:09

found that this is probably the most

32:11

shocking discovery of the time. I mean,

32:13

isn't that so disgusting? And

32:15

we've talked about it in real time. This is

32:17

happening as we speak. But even back in

32:20

1955, she proved she was right. We

32:24

ultimately now know that she could

32:26

have saved probably millions of lives,

32:28

certainly, you know, a lot of

32:30

suffering. And instead of being

32:32

celebrated, instead of being listened to, they

32:34

moved her out of that department so

32:36

that she would never cause trouble for

32:39

the manufacturers again. So I mean,

32:41

we were screwed all the way back in 1955. This

32:44

corruption of government was happening. But

32:47

it never stopped people from speaking out

32:50

like her. So she was put in

32:52

with Dr. Sarah Stewart. They worked on

32:54

cancer. They worked in the

32:56

cancer laboratories. At

32:59

the time, the polio vaccine, Salk's Polio

33:01

vaccine was using Rhesus monkey kidney cells

33:04

for culturing the poliovirus. They had to

33:06

be continually replenished using these monkeys, obviously,

33:08

killing them as well. And

33:11

so from here, we're going to let

33:13

Dr. Leonard Hayflick describe the rest of

33:15

Dr. Eddie's legacy at that time.

33:17

Take a look. Good.

33:20

Bernice Eddie, EDDY. Bernice,

33:22

who I was, who

33:25

I knew well. At

33:27

that time, inoculated polio

33:30

preparations into the cheek pouch

33:32

of hamsters. The cheek pouch

33:34

is a particularly interesting organ

33:37

because it has very little

33:39

in the way of

33:45

immunity. And

33:47

consequently, it can grow things

33:49

that ordinarily would not grow in

33:52

other tissues. And so

33:54

it's a very useful organ. She

33:57

inoculated. of

34:00

the vaccine preparation sent for testing and

34:02

approval into hamster

34:05

cheek pouches and

34:08

discovered that tumors were

34:11

produced, which

34:13

was quite alarming. Later

34:17

developments, and these have developed,

34:19

occurred rather quickly, showed

34:22

that the virus, that there was

34:24

a virus involved, and that the

34:26

virus was the same one discovered

34:28

by sweetened hellaminate merc called SV40.

34:31

And SV40 has

34:34

the alarming capability

34:38

not only of producing tumors in the

34:40

cheek pouch of hamsters, but

34:43

worst of all, when

34:46

introduced into cell cultures of

34:48

human cells, frequently

34:52

causes them to transform

34:54

into cell lines or

34:56

cancer cells. Obviously,

35:00

very obvious, probably the

35:03

worst calamity you

35:05

can think of. Furthermore,

35:08

by this time in the

35:10

early 60s, the

35:12

Salk vaccine had been approved

35:14

and widely used. Saben's

35:18

vaccine, I believe, was just

35:21

also being used in many countries, including the US.

35:26

And it was easy

35:28

to learn that several

35:30

million people worldwide had

35:33

received those vaccines that

35:36

contained at no extra cost SV40

35:39

virus. A huge worry. You

35:47

know, there's millions of cancer cases, I think,

35:49

you know, suspected from

35:51

that contamination of

35:53

the vaccine. Really, I didn't

35:55

realize that was the same person that discovered that.

35:57

It's really interesting to me. Yeah,

36:02

and because in part of her

36:04

discovery of that, they ended the

36:06

rhesus monkey kidney cells and you

36:08

saw Dr. Hayfleck there, he created

36:10

the WY-38 immortal cell line that

36:12

was then replaced to use for

36:14

vaccine production. But that didn't

36:16

stop. I mean, obviously- So we went from- oh,

36:18

is that a cancer cell line or is that

36:20

an aborted fetal cell line? I

36:22

believe that's an aborted fetal cell line. All right. So

36:25

we let the monkeys go and switch

36:28

to aborted fetuses. Yeah,

36:30

so- Advanced both fronts. A

36:32

study of SV40 did show this. I

36:34

mean, they did close the gate

36:36

on it, but a lot of the horses left at

36:38

the barn at that point. In

36:40

this study here, semia virus 40 in

36:43

human cancer, it says, conclusion, the results

36:45

established that SV40 is associated significantly with

36:47

brain tumors, bone cancers, malignant mesothelioma, and

36:50

non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Studies are needed to assess

36:52

current prevalence of SV40 infections. So it's

36:54

kind of a meta-analysis back then. And

36:57

it would be really amazing to think that, and

36:59

this is part of the great work Suzanne Humphries

37:01

has done. We can talk to her a little

37:03

bit about that. But when you look at, they

37:05

were overstating, as it said,

37:07

in the NIH or in the

37:10

Time Magazine, the dangers of polio.

37:12

Meanwhile, they're giving polio through an

37:14

accident in processing, and

37:17

now everyone that survived and didn't get polio

37:19

is at risk for cancer. And so when

37:21

you look at all those numbers, you have

37:23

to ask yourself, did we

37:25

really do better with the

37:27

vaccine program, one of these circumstances? So

37:30

yeah. Right. And we're

37:32

going to be talking about that a little bit with measles as well.

37:34

But I want to bring up the timeline here to another woman.

37:36

We'll bring it up to 1990s. Someone

37:39

our audience may be familiar with, a

37:42

true force really in government

37:45

health. This is Dr. Bernardine Healy.

37:47

Take a look. All

37:49

right. Dr. Bernardine Healy, the former

37:51

director of the National Institutes of Health,

37:53

also a former head of the American

37:55

Red Cross, science advisor to President Ronald

37:57

Reagan, and a CBS News

37:59

medical consultant. My parents

38:01

and particularly my father thought it

38:03

was wonderful for a woman to be

38:06

a doctor and in those days when I was

38:08

growing up it was really exceptional

38:10

unusual for a woman to pursue a

38:12

career in medicine. It was a place

38:14

where I could use

38:16

my intelligence and my hard work but also make

38:19

a difference. You know there's not one doctor in the Senate

38:21

of the United States if there were

38:23

65 I wouldn't be running but there's not

38:26

one and I think if we ever needed

38:28

to have good medical backgrounds and medical information

38:30

it is now because there is a crisis

38:32

of confusion. The public doesn't know what the

38:34

government is about to do to them. Let

38:37

me tell you that the individual consumers must

38:39

be at the center they are the ones

38:41

that have information they must be informed they

38:43

must be able to pick and choose they

38:45

must look for quality as well as cost.

38:47

It is in health care that the patient

38:49

must be there at the center not the

38:51

doctor not the insurance company not the government

38:54

not the drug companies it's the patient. When I

38:56

was at NIH there are a number of wonderful

38:59

challenges and a number of very difficult and

39:01

I laid out the general concept of

39:03

the women's health initiative and it would be

39:05

holistic that it would involve not

39:07

one organ or one disease but in

39:10

fact major illnesses and

39:12

issues of wellness that affect

39:14

women particularly in that over

39:17

50 range where most women most

39:19

people face their illnesses and

39:21

see their lives demolished often

39:24

by diseases that often can be prevented.

39:26

I had a conversation with her

39:28

before she died in 2009 several

39:31

hour conversation with her and

39:34

told her everything that I had

39:36

learned and she did really play a role before

39:38

she died in talking about the

39:40

potential you know association with the vaccines

39:43

and autism. This is the time when

39:45

we do have the opportunity to understand

39:47

whether or not there are susceptible

39:50

children perhaps genetically perhaps they

39:52

have a metabolic issue

39:55

mitochondrial disorder immunological

39:58

issue that makes that more

40:01

susceptible to vaccines

40:03

plural or to one particular

40:05

vaccine or to a component of vaccine

40:07

like mercury. It sounds like you don't

40:09

think the hypothesis of a link between

40:12

vaccines and autism is completely irrational.

40:14

So when I first heard about it I thought well

40:16

that doesn't make sense to me. The

40:18

more you delve into it if you look at

40:20

the basic science, if you look at the research

40:22

that's been done in animals, if you also look

40:24

at some of these individual

40:27

cases and if you look at the

40:29

evidence that there is no link, what

40:32

I come away with is the question

40:34

has not been answered. If you don't

40:36

have courage all your

40:38

other values and principles and goals don't

40:41

have any meaning and

40:43

faith, the abiding belief in

40:45

yourself, in the

40:47

fundamental goodness of those who are around

40:49

you and a

40:51

greater being who embodies justice which

40:54

sooner or later try. All

40:56

of us I believe in

40:58

our hearts are humanitarian and

41:00

how wonderful to be in

41:03

a career that in almost any dimension of

41:05

it whether you're the doctor at the bedside or

41:07

the scientist in a laboratory or

41:09

the public health dot tracking down

41:11

the latest epidemic that

41:14

you are doing something that is pure

41:16

in its fundamental purpose

41:18

which is helping another

41:20

human being. What

41:27

an amazing powerhouse and I just want to

41:29

point out the statement

41:32

she made to Cheryl Atkinson

41:34

in that CBS interview. I think it's

41:36

some of the most powerful testimony we

41:38

can ever look at by the head

41:40

of the NIH, former head of the

41:42

NIH which means she had access to

41:44

all the top science in the world.

41:46

When people tell you this has been

41:48

extensively studied there's no connection between vaccines

41:50

and autism I can say this. The

41:53

head of the NIH said and it

41:55

was that 2008 on primetime television that

41:57

there is not enough science there that this question

41:59

has not been. not been answered and not

42:01

one single red cent from that moment

42:03

till now has ever been paid for

42:05

by the government to do any deeper

42:07

investigation to vaccine and autism. That

42:10

is a fact. That is something we should all be

42:12

very concerned about. And her

42:14

entire life, her entire career, this is a woman

42:16

who went to bat no matter how unpopular it

42:18

was. And as you saw in that 2008 clip,

42:20

that was probably the most unpopular take to have

42:22

at that time to actually question those vaccines and

42:24

say, we haven't done the science. And

42:27

so she's one of the first women

42:29

to win a title, a full professor

42:31

at Johns Hopkins Medical School. And of

42:33

course, the first woman director of the

42:35

NIH also raised two daughters at the

42:37

time. But she taught

42:39

her patients and the public in

42:41

general to take personal responsibility. As

42:44

you saw from those clips there, it's the

42:46

patient that is the center, not the doctors,

42:48

not the bottom line, the pharmaceutical companies, or

42:50

even even the government. And she actually wrote

42:52

a book to inform women about this idea.

42:54

It's called A New Prescription for Women's Health.

42:56

And you can see on the bottom there

42:58

getting the best medical care in a man's

43:01

world. But this book had questions women can

43:03

directly ask their doctors to get the information

43:05

they want, the right questions, what women can

43:07

do personally to help their health, and even

43:09

like political objectives. So this was kind of

43:11

like a one-stop shop. And

43:13

as she mentioned in those clips, she started

43:16

the Women's Health Initiative soon after she got

43:18

into the NIH. This was over a

43:21

$600 million initiative for research

43:23

to look at issues that

43:25

were specific to women, cardiovascular

43:27

issues, osteoporosis, cancer in women

43:30

over 50. Unfortunately,

43:32

up until that time, there really

43:34

weren't studied, shockingly. And because most

43:37

of the studies were centered around men. And

43:40

you can see some of the headlines

43:42

at that time that were reporting on

43:44

this. Here's Washington Post, the Healy experiment,

43:46

another one. What doctors don't know about

43:48

women. Here's one from the New York

43:50

Times. Studies say women fail to receive

43:52

equal treatment for heart disease. Just to give you an idea

43:54

here, this is when some of the first studies started trickling

43:56

out in 91. It says, two new

43:59

studies show that doctors... treat women with

44:01

heart disease less aggressively than they treat

44:03

men. The study showed that women were

44:05

at most half as likely as men

44:07

to undergo a common diagnostic procedure, cardiac

44:09

catheterization to determine how advanced their heart

44:11

disease was and women were much less

44:14

likely than men to undergo bypass surgery

44:16

or balloon angioplasty to unclog blocked arteries.

44:18

Yet the women in the studies tended

44:20

to have more advanced heart disease than

44:22

the men and it goes on to

44:24

say the papers are being published today

44:27

in the New England Medical, New England

44:29

Journal of Medicine and are accompanied

44:31

by an editorial by Dr. Bernadine Healy, a

44:33

cardiologist who is a director of the National

44:35

Institutes of Health and her editorial doctor, Healy,

44:38

deplored the findings saying quote, the problem is

44:40

to convince both the lay and the medical

44:42

sectors that coronary heart disease is also a

44:44

woman's disease not a man's disease in disguise,

44:47

she wrote. And so

44:49

you can see her really going to back there. Obviously

44:51

as a

44:53

head of NIH that would have

44:56

been a really unpopular idea to

44:58

just tack hard and get over

45:00

600 million dollars to study women's

45:02

health, but that's exactly what she

45:04

did. And so this is why

45:06

we're celebrating her here. And now we're

45:08

also going to celebrate another woman, Dr.

45:10

Mary Talley Bowden. She's been in the

45:12

news recently. We're taking the timeline up

45:14

to recently. She's been a plaintiff in

45:17

a case where they have

45:19

sued the FDA for their misinformation

45:21

during COVID, specifically around the drug

45:24

ivermectin. And you notice about three

45:26

years ago, around 2021, you started

45:28

seeing tweets like

45:31

this from the FDA. They took an aggressive

45:33

stance against this drug. It

45:35

says this, you're not a horse, you're not

45:37

a cow, you've probably seen this tweet before.

45:39

They basically went all out to tell people

45:42

not to take this drug. And so this

45:44

is Dr. Bowden's

45:46

tweet here. You can see FDA

45:48

loses its war on ivermectin and

45:50

agrees to remove all social media

45:53

posts and consumer directives regarding ivermectin

45:55

and COVID, including its most popular

45:57

tweet in FDA history. case

46:00

sets an important precedent in

46:03

limiting FDA overreach into the

46:05

doctor-patient relationship. Headline here, FDA

46:07

settles lawsuit over ivermectin social media

46:10

posts. Why

46:12

have people been fighting so hard for

46:14

this? We have Dr. Bowden in court.

46:16

You have Dr. Pierre Corey, he came

46:18

out hard and wrote a book on

46:20

the actual drug, the wolffroni ivermectin. But

46:23

you see here, this is the most

46:25

recent study. This isn't some fringe drug.

46:27

This is a drug that has been

46:29

studied extensively, specifically for COVID.

46:31

Let's look at just the most recent studies

46:34

here. We have over 100 studies, 101 studies,

46:36

1,134 scientists working on these studies, 142,247 patients

46:44

in 29 countries. And

46:46

remember, in 2015, the Japanese scientists

46:48

who discovered ivermectin was awarded the

46:50

Nobel Prize. So this is something

46:52

that, I mean, this is a huge win. This

46:56

is FDA misinformation that has been overturned

46:58

by courageous doctors. And

47:01

Mary Tyler Bowden, who was censored,

47:03

threatened the hospitals, the job, just

47:05

like so many other people in

47:08

this nation, never gave up, never

47:10

stopped fighting for the truth. What

47:12

an amazing victory this is. And

47:15

it also speaks to the censorship trials we see

47:18

going on right now. When the

47:20

government was wrong on

47:22

the protocols that they were pushing, wrong to

47:24

come out against ivermectin, how many lives would

47:27

have been saved had we not had the

47:29

shutdown on this product, all of the

47:31

drug stores that wouldn't give it, even when

47:33

doctors were prescribing it. This will

47:35

be a blight on science, a blight on

47:37

health, driven by the

47:40

last two administrations, frankly, that

47:42

have run this country. So it's a

47:44

dark, dark moment in

47:47

medical history, one that I

47:49

think, you know, we're seeing some light. We're

47:52

seeing these courageous individuals, again, powerful women making

47:54

a difference. All right. And

47:57

So now let's look at some of the modern

47:59

day public health. The propaganda if you will reporting

48:01

would every we're going to call it slide

48:03

people have written in the loud parents have

48:05

written and ask us to blue because the

48:07

stories read you a deep dive in the

48:09

most recent measles scare that the media his

48:11

drumming up and if you haven't seen it

48:13

looks like this current. It's making

48:15

headlines around the world. A

48:18

highly contagious measles virus is

48:20

seeing a resurgence. Health leaders at

48:22

both a local and national level are warning

48:24

of a recent uptick in what they consider

48:26

to be a preventable disease as a new

48:29

health Alert and the Cdc about the rising

48:31

number of measles cases around the country. So.

48:33

Far this year, there is in

48:35

fifty eight confirmed cases across seventeen

48:37

states as equal. To the total number

48:39

of cases we saw in all of last

48:41

year. Free those cases, We know we're right

48:44

here in Minnesota. The For Department of Health

48:46

has reported. Can Measles cases

48:48

nine. And Broward County and One

48:50

and pop So starters agree the spread

48:52

is being fueled by low vaccination rates

48:54

especially among young children many of whom

48:57

stop getting the shots during the comb

48:59

an outbreak and never got back on

49:01

schedule. The rate of demonization among kindergarteners

49:03

is to to drop and it's not

49:06

surprising is this is the disease you

49:08

see because is the most contagious of

49:10

the vaccine preventable diseases. They

49:15

are. We are big the on a

49:17

bed. Nina Media loves Measles Outbreak. Better.

49:20

Do and I you remember back in

49:22

Twenty Nine, seen the highway or was

49:24

on the ground in Rockland County for

49:26

the last measles outbreaks we're trying to

49:29

really show was happening barracks Mrs. When

49:31

the the. Mayor. Of Rockland

49:33

County Basically said that on vaccinated

49:35

children had emergency order this is

49:37

the headline your and vaccinated children

49:39

banned from public health spaces amid

49:42

measles outbreak in New York suburbs

49:44

and that they kept goats you

49:46

of religion religious practices either. So

49:48

they are banned. There's there's a

49:50

curfew and know we we saw

49:53

curfew of Jewish people in Rockland

49:55

County New York their found on

49:57

the streets without vaccination. Then the.

50:00

They could get a fine, they weren't

50:02

allowed as you said and synagogues during

50:04

Passover. I you know I started some

50:06

controversy. That was the moment I stood

50:08

in up in the public I see

50:10

here in Texas and penned a yellow

50:12

star to my jacket. This is always

50:14

been misrepresented that I was saying that

50:16

the jealous or represented on the the

50:18

vaccine program or the you know force

50:20

vaccine. It wasn't I was making a

50:22

statement about the curfew or that was

50:24

issued that they weren't allowed to walk

50:26

down the street The United States of

50:28

America that they weren't allowed to practice

50:30

their religion toggle. The Hasidic Jewish community

50:32

weren't allowed in their temples during Passover.

50:35

That to me seem like a dangerous

50:37

precedent. That is what I was protesting

50:39

against and I said i say and

50:41

with you that they should never have

50:43

happened. United States of America. The.

50:45

As way it was where the line and

50:47

a year it didn't take long for this

50:49

headline here. Despite a week later judge List

50:51

Rock Wins Measles Emergency Order banning and vaccinated

50:53

children from public spaces. That with Cbs and

50:56

so that was that was overturned fairly quickly,

50:58

was kind of a blemish on the public

51:00

health there. But now let's look at the

51:02

current Measles cases as a right to the

51:04

Cdc because again, being told this is an

51:06

alert this is an outbreak. We really should

51:08

be scared. And. So the Cdc, his

51:10

own website. number of measles cases reported by

51:12

week. This is from twenty twenty three to

51:15

current and you can see there is. It

51:17

Looks like there may be an issue, you

51:19

know we ask? Case going up a little

51:21

bit where I am right? right? Are you

51:24

know. Still, Fourteen cases at

51:26

the peak their ads in February. but

51:28

now let's take that. That's take this

51:30

entire chart you're looking at and in

51:32

bed. that. In. The last twenty

51:34

years and lox look what we're dealing with. their

51:37

the chart and bet it there. There's that little

51:39

blip on the right. that's a chart we just

51:41

looked at Now look right, rest since two thousand.

51:44

Now. Much as guy not Vegas for three,

51:46

there's not much going on, so the current

51:48

Cdc numbers show sixty four Measles cases that

51:50

the most recent. They have by on a

51:53

pivot here for a second and I want

51:55

to show the work that I can in

51:57

the high or dies on vaccines and vaccine

51:59

reporting. Then you in real

52:01

time litigation. To. The

52:04

to influence court cases. So portions of

52:06

when I'm reporting hear about of report

52:08

here with youth in order to restore

52:10

the religious exemption from Mississippi school children

52:12

that we celebrated. Hear it and I

52:14

can. Newsletter. And. So let's look at

52:16

some the documents your that were submitted by our

52:19

attorneys to the judge in that case. And.

52:21

This is the first one. Here is

52:23

the Cdc Vital Statistics ons the Nineteen

52:25

Sixty Eight Doc. Print. Prep produced

52:27

by the National Center for Health

52:29

Statistics and in here it has

52:31

a chart of the death rates

52:33

for measles. Else. Is a

52:36

really important charted tells an amazing

52:38

story from nineteen Hundred to Nineteen

52:40

Sixty. You. Have the death rate

52:42

for measles per one hundred thousand population.

52:44

you can see something there. By.

52:46

The way the measles vaccine didn't

52:48

come in and with license and

52:50

nineteen sixty three of this is

52:52

before the vaccine before any shots

52:54

went mon are for measles you

52:56

see a with they call precipitous

52:58

decline and this is obviously as

53:00

we know sanitation, better nutrition improvements

53:03

and all those areas. But. I

53:05

wanted his. I want to look at

53:07

that scale because I've never I'm It

53:09

always looks really scary like oh my

53:11

god we really overcame something big and

53:13

we bring it back as I just

53:15

for the first time really looked that

53:17

left column and though it looks scary

53:19

you get the sense that is like

53:21

millions of people need you to say

53:23

that this is basically per one hundred

53:25

thousand. So at the really extreme hi

53:27

there were talking about thirteen people per

53:29

one hundred thousand. ah I'm so a

53:31

that you know is alarming. I think

53:33

that graph feels. Like millions one.

53:36

It's just really not use

53:38

talking about saying at the

53:40

worst case scenario, this virus

53:42

used to kill up to

53:44

thirteen people per one hundred

53:46

thousand, but by nineteen Sixty

53:48

was down to just this

53:50

side of zero. right?

53:53

Are also the know of the Was or the

53:55

Magazine right? Go ahead yeah. or the People's Mass

53:57

Vaccination Program with the new. Do think about this

53:59

nearly. Everyone contracted measles and obtained by

54:01

time in New Day but out fifteen

54:04

years of age. So we know measles

54:06

is a self limiting childhood viral infection

54:08

and most of the case or benign

54:10

they're not even reported the public health

54:12

departments. So. That that's really is

54:14

important to those. Yeah, watch the station.

54:16

And but now that's bring it to

54:18

the vaccine Because as you saw from

54:20

that reports of all the reporting of

54:22

the the current fear mongering by the

54:24

media, it's because have been vaccinated Kids

54:26

This is happening. Well. That's what

54:28

is vaccines with safety. This vaccine

54:31

self through Freedom of Information Act

54:33

requests. I. Can has obtain the

54:35

documents and studies relied upon to license

54:37

the Mmr to Vaccine and Ninety Seven

54:39

Yeah this is with the Ft Eight

54:42

looked at and so let's look at

54:44

these clinical trials and let's look at

54:46

how robust they were. So again they

54:48

they bet that this with would they

54:50

relied upon to vaccine all children the

54:53

U Max Sh vaccination program eight hundred

54:55

and thirty four children vaccinated. That's.

54:57

How many they used as a halt or is as

54:59

the size of the study. That's besides

55:01

the study on it's a huge you're obviously

55:03

not statistically powers, you're going to miss a

55:05

sign of rare issues. and so let's look

55:07

at how long they follow these kids for

55:09

safety issues. It says each child will be

55:12

followed clinically. For. Forty two days

55:14

following vaccination or local and systemic

55:16

complaints will be recorded on the

55:18

case report form. So they forty

55:20

three something happens. When. I can

55:22

record that on the clinical form and at

55:24

you know people watching this as you know

55:26

has a lot of people have woken up

55:28

to during covert that the public is the

55:30

final stage of safety testing. We need to

55:33

pass the vaccine order see what's wrong with

55:35

see them as he clear of just want

55:37

to point out is that we go through

55:39

this and he boy norwegian glaze over a

55:41

little bit. Forty two days was the length

55:43

of the follow up. With this save the

55:45

trials. There's almost not a drug that your

55:47

grandparents take their would ever have a trial

55:49

that sort so many these trials or six.

55:52

years long with see with a long term

55:54

health outcomes are and we're talking about a

55:56

product is manipulating your immune system so if

55:58

there's gonna be in east The most

56:00

likely issue is an autoimmune dysfunction, that

56:02

it throws the regulation of your immune

56:05

system off. That's what it's designed to

56:07

do, but what if it makes a

56:09

permanent mistake? You're not going to

56:11

see that in 42 days. You're going to

56:13

see that about a year or two. We

56:15

know that. And as we pointed out, this

56:18

is just another piece of evidence. We've never

56:20

had a study of the childhood vaccines where

56:22

we had a placebo group that went through,

56:24

you know, two to six years. They don't

56:26

exist. This is just another one. 42 days.

56:29

What do you expect to see if your immune system

56:31

has been messed with by this product? There's no way

56:34

to see it. Unfortunately,

56:36

not all is lost because as

56:39

it rolls out to the public, after

56:41

licensure, there is federal

56:43

law that requires that the package insert for

56:46

this vaccine, the MMR vaccine, lists

56:48

the adverse events. We'll take a look at

56:50

this. So they have to, by federal law,

56:53

list the adverse events for which there is

56:55

some basis to believe there is a causal

56:57

relationship between the vaccine and the occurrence of

56:59

an adverse event. So let's look at what

57:01

they have to list here. Looking

57:04

at this, well, you see Guillain-Barre

57:06

syndrome, you see transverse myelitis, pneumonia. I

57:08

mean, you can go down there. They

57:10

have almost- And cephalitis, swelling in the

57:12

brain. That's the big one right there.

57:14

When you think about that, because autism

57:16

would be the result of your brain

57:18

swelling as a child after getting this

57:20

vaccine. I've said it before. A mother

57:22

once came up to me and said,

57:24

vaccines didn't cause my child's autism. It

57:27

caused the brain swelling, the cephalopodia event

57:29

that resulted in a symptom we now

57:31

call autism. That is how people

57:33

need to understand it. And there it is

57:35

still written right there in the package insert,

57:37

meaning some people, some children are

57:40

going to have this reaction from this

57:42

product, but the government wants to tell

57:44

us they don't matter. They don't count.

57:46

Let them die. Let them be handicapped.

57:49

Let them have whatever issues they have.

57:51

We're going full speed ahead and we're never

57:53

going to investigate that group, which is what

57:55

Bernadine Healy so clearly put out. I was

57:57

shocked to find there was not a single.

58:00

study that looked at the

58:02

children that had been injured.

58:04

That's a mind-blowing statement to

58:06

make publicly. Right, and

58:08

there also has not been studies as you know

58:10

about what children would be susceptible

58:12

to these types of harm. Right. But

58:14

that's beside the point at this point.

58:16

So we have the Cochrane Collaboration, a

58:18

very well-respected institution looking at the measles,

58:20

mumps and rubella vaccine in children. They

58:22

did a meta-analysis and looked at 64

58:25

trials and studies involving just over

58:28

14 million children. And the authors

58:30

concluded this, quote, the design and

58:32

reporting of safety outcomes in MMR

58:34

vaccine studies, both pre and post-marketing,

58:37

are largely inadequate. The evidence of

58:39

adverse events following immunization with the

58:41

MMR vaccine cannot be separated from

58:43

its role in preventing the target

58:46

diseases. Even the CDC's own vaccine

58:48

information statement that was on their

58:50

website shows this when you look

58:52

at it under MMR vaccines, they

58:54

list it under the problem type,

58:56

moderate, severe. You can see under

58:58

moderate, seizures, one in

59:01

three, every 3000 doses, temporary

59:03

pain and stiffness in joints, one out of four

59:05

people. But then you go down to severe problems.

59:08

It's a serious neurologic reaction, less than one

59:10

out of a million. Deafness,

59:13

long-term seizures, coma, lower consciousness, permanent

59:15

brain damage. That's actually

59:17

on this vaccine information statement. And so

59:20

obviously there's a lot of questions

59:22

for a self-limiting childhood disease that's

59:24

mostly benign. Parents have this scale

59:26

that they have to weigh when

59:28

they see the media kind

59:31

of over-exaggerating the fear reporting

59:33

on this of just 64

59:35

cases in the entire United States. This

59:37

is what they have to look at too. And then we're

59:39

going to finish this off with just putting everything in perspective.

59:42

Physicians for informed consent, this is PICC.

59:44

They have a measles mortality chart just

59:46

to put it all in perspective. And

59:49

they look at the death rate. This is measles mortality

59:51

versus the leading causes of death in children under the

59:53

age of 10 per 100,000. Now

59:56

interestingly, there's a nuance here. It's very

59:58

important. They say pre- So

1:00:01

again, this was that chart we saw

1:00:03

early on. They're choosing before

1:00:05

the vaccine even came in, before all the

1:00:07

sanitation was great, all of this stuff was

1:00:09

happening. They said 0.9 per 100,000. Now

1:00:13

that's a small number compared

1:00:16

to homicides, cancer, sudden infant

1:00:18

death syndrome, SIDS, their unintentional

1:00:20

injury, accidents, drownings, falls, congenital

1:00:23

abnormalities, their anomalies. And

1:00:25

then at the bottom there, they have

1:00:27

the MMR vaccine. And of course it

1:00:29

says insufficient data available, which is very,

1:00:32

very astute by PIC to put this

1:00:34

there. But that's really what we're dealing

1:00:36

with as far as a danger continuum

1:00:38

with this measles outbreak that's currently happening

1:00:40

or when it may happen in the

1:00:43

future. Amazing

1:00:45

reporting, Jeffrey. Just spectacular looking

1:00:47

at the powerful women there,

1:00:50

Dr. Eddie and of course, Bernadine

1:00:53

Healy and Mary Tyler Bowden. I

1:00:55

mean, we're just, it's, you

1:00:57

know, there's so many more we

1:00:59

could talk about, but thank you for doing that

1:01:01

great investigation as always. I'll see you next week.

1:01:04

Absolutely, thank you. All right, take care. All

1:01:06

right, I actually wanna just

1:01:09

cover this measles issue because I've been

1:01:11

in many headlines around it. I've

1:01:14

even heard myself mentioned on a few

1:01:16

news programs lately, but this was in

1:01:18

the Washington Post, anti-baxxers target communities battling

1:01:20

measles. There was photos of me going

1:01:22

there. I was talking to the press in

1:01:25

the middle of that outbreak, but

1:01:27

I was sharing something there that I really

1:01:29

wanna share with you because when we think

1:01:31

about the measles outbreak, let's go ahead and

1:01:33

go over here to our board

1:01:35

here to get a better understanding of this. One

1:01:38

of the biggest outbreaks in

1:01:40

my lifetime really, but certainly in the

1:01:43

last several decades was the 2014, 2015

1:01:45

Disneyland outbreak. This

1:01:49

was what was used to push SB277,

1:01:52

which passed in California, taking the

1:01:54

religious exemption away so there was

1:01:57

no way to exempt out of

1:01:59

the vaccine. program. They said this

1:02:01

would stop a Disneyland outbreak from

1:02:03

happening because it's the unvaccinated children,

1:02:05

this tiny group of maybe three

1:02:08

to five percent of unvaccinated children

1:02:10

in California that caused

1:02:12

this outbreak. The headlines were relentless.

1:02:14

They never stopped just as they're

1:02:17

saying now it's the unvaccinated. But

1:02:19

here's the thing. This is the

1:02:21

actual data coming from the California

1:02:23

Department of Public Health. This

1:02:26

is their data. Not mine. This is not my

1:02:28

opinion. Why don't we look at some of the

1:02:30

things that they discovered when they actually did

1:02:32

the investigation of the cases in

1:02:35

this outbreak. What you will find

1:02:37

is age distribution and hospitalization status

1:02:39

of California measles outbreak cases. Remember,

1:02:41

it's the unvaccinated kids that caused

1:02:44

this. Only one problem is we

1:02:46

discovered that a majority of the

1:02:48

cases were adults. Over

1:02:51

53 percent were adults that were

1:02:55

involved in this. And frankly, those that

1:02:57

were super young were

1:02:59

a tiny part of this. But

1:03:01

adults, it wasn't kids, the 53

1:03:03

percent. But it gets even more

1:03:05

interesting when we look at the

1:03:07

breakdown. We see that

1:03:10

82 or 63 percent cases

1:03:12

had immunization status verified. They

1:03:14

were able to verify in

1:03:16

these cases whether they've been

1:03:18

vaccinated enough. And what we

1:03:20

find is that 31 percent of them were vaccinated.

1:03:23

Thirty one percent. That's a gigantic failure

1:03:26

rate for something to say that's safe

1:03:28

and effective and 95 percent

1:03:30

effective. Again, we're back to this

1:03:32

issue. Thirty one percent of the

1:03:35

cases were vaccine failure. But guess

1:03:37

what? It actually is probably much

1:03:40

worse than that because there's this

1:03:42

group. Thirty eight percent of

1:03:44

that's 49 people of them. Forty eight

1:03:47

were adults. And what they found is

1:03:49

they didn't know their immunization status. Twenty

1:03:51

of them said that I'm pretty sure

1:03:53

I was vaccinated, but they didn't have

1:03:55

the records and the others just didn't

1:03:57

know, didn't remember. It's like who what?

1:04:00

kid remembers getting the vaccines and which

1:04:02

ones they got. We have to assume

1:04:04

in the United States of America that

1:04:06

49, almost all of them should

1:04:08

have been vaccinated. So that means the vaccine failure

1:04:10

rate is not 31%. It's somewhere between 60 and

1:04:13

70% of the cases in

1:04:18

this outbreak were vaccinated, not unvaccinated.

1:04:20

That means they were shedding on

1:04:22

each other. They were shedding on

1:04:24

family members. They were putting, you

1:04:26

know, immune suppressed people at risk.

1:04:28

That's the facts we're looking at

1:04:31

right here, not my opinion. And

1:04:33

then lastly, one of the most

1:04:35

fascinating things about this investigation done

1:04:37

by the California Department of Public

1:04:39

Health was when they looked at

1:04:41

the strain of measles. Was this

1:04:43

a wild type measles or was

1:04:45

there a possibility the vaccine caused

1:04:47

the measles? Look at this. 73

1:04:50

specimens were genotype B3

1:04:52

outbreak strain, but 31

1:04:54

were genotype A vaccine

1:04:56

strain from recently vaccinated

1:04:59

persons. So 30% of

1:05:01

the cases were vaccine

1:05:03

strain measles caused by

1:05:05

the vaccine itself. So

1:05:08

the headlines are screaming at you. It's the

1:05:10

unvaccinated children that are causing this. But we

1:05:12

now know somewhere between 60 and

1:05:14

70% most likely of those

1:05:16

that were infected with measles had the

1:05:19

vaccine and 30% got

1:05:21

it from the vaccine. I'm sorry.

1:05:23

That's a wrap. Mic drop to

1:05:26

anyone that wants to argue with

1:05:28

me about the facts as

1:05:30

the California Department of Public Health lays

1:05:32

it out. All right. Let's get back

1:05:34

to some of the other work that

1:05:36

we're doing. Many

1:05:40

of you know that the V-safe data

1:05:42

is the best data that was ever

1:05:44

done around the COVID vaccine. This was

1:05:46

the app that was built to question

1:05:49

people that have just received the vaccine

1:05:51

for several weeks and ultimately months. We've

1:05:53

talked about this. We got all of

1:05:55

the, you know, sort of check the

1:05:57

box data inputs that we fought in

1:05:59

court. I can't fault for you

1:06:01

took us over a year. What a road it

1:06:03

was We finally got all that data and we

1:06:06

learned a lot from it We built the whole

1:06:08

dashboard so that you can search that

1:06:10

but in this app We

1:06:12

also wanted the real information all of the

1:06:14

check the box was did you have swelling

1:06:17

in your arm? Did you have a headache

1:06:19

fever all the things that they would say

1:06:21

that's great It shows the vaccines working all

1:06:23

the things you really be worried about like

1:06:25

myocarditis Pericarditis, you

1:06:27

know anaphylaxis strokes those

1:06:29

things none of that was asked in

1:06:31

this app But there was the

1:06:33

open text box space where you could

1:06:35

write it in yourself Well, as you

1:06:37

know Aaron Siri and his team recently just

1:06:39

a few weeks ago Finally

1:06:42

won that open text data and we've been

1:06:44

taking these tranches that are coming into his

1:06:46

law firm and putting them up on our

1:06:48

website This is breaking federal judge order CDC

1:06:50

to release all be safe free text entries

1:06:53

in the huge win for vaccine safety Transparency

1:06:55

that and here's the new one. This is

1:06:57

what just happened early be safe free text

1:06:59

entries show Remarkable consistency in

1:07:01

the frequency of mentions of adverse events.

1:07:04

So what were they writing in? Let's

1:07:06

just read through what our report gave

1:07:08

us this week Here are a

1:07:10

few examples of the sobering entries received and

1:07:12

presumably ignored by CDC my tonight is is

1:07:14

office This is what someone wrote my tonight

1:07:16

is off the charts is extremely loud loud

1:07:19

had I known the vaccination would make my

1:07:21

tonight is worse I would have never gotten

1:07:23

the vaccine put it this way if I

1:07:25

was suicidal. I would be dead by now

1:07:28

That's how bad it is another one. I

1:07:30

had a miscarriage after second dose of Pfizer

1:07:32

COVID vaccine I felt fine until I had

1:07:34

the vaccine within 48 hours

1:07:36

of pregnancy symptoms ceased I

1:07:38

have no history of fertility issues

1:07:40

or complications and had two healthy

1:07:42

uneventful pregnancies prior to this another

1:07:44

one today I experienced heart Competitions

1:07:46

accompanied by tachycardia dizziness and weakness

1:07:48

these symptoms lasted about four hours

1:07:50

of my heart rate was between

1:07:52

135 to 145 I

1:07:55

have never experienced and in some these

1:07:57

symptoms until today so And

1:08:00

then it goes on. Look, there's one more. Let's go ahead

1:08:02

and read that. I think in both the February,

1:08:04

March production, roughly 3,200 entries mentioned the symptom of

1:08:08

shortness of breath for the term heart

1:08:10

palpitations. There were about 1,900 reports. I

1:08:13

mean, this is all what we should have been

1:08:16

asking, right? We made them write it in. Did

1:08:18

you have heart palpitations? Did you have any arrhythmias?

1:08:20

The types of things that we should have been

1:08:22

asking, knowing myocarditis was the big question, the elephant

1:08:24

in the room, but they didn't. They wrote it

1:08:26

in, 1,900 reports, and then at 1,600 in the

1:08:28

March batch. Conseringly,

1:08:32

these are both symptoms of myocarditis. In

1:08:34

addition, each batch, there were roughly 1,000

1:08:37

reports of ringing of the ears, which

1:08:39

studied and news reports have linked to

1:08:41

the COVID-19 vaccines, despite CDC's refusal to

1:08:44

recognize it as an adverse event. We're

1:08:46

all over this, folks. This

1:08:48

is what ICANN does, right? We are

1:08:50

getting the information. We're putting it out

1:08:52

to the public because you bet your

1:08:54

life we are going to bring a

1:08:57

case against the government agencies that saw

1:08:59

this information coming in and lied to

1:09:01

us and said it looks perfectly safe.

1:09:03

We don't have any reason to believe we

1:09:05

see no red flags on this product as

1:09:08

they forced everyone in our president, Biden, force

1:09:10

us to take it if we wanted to

1:09:12

have a job with employers with more than

1:09:14

100 people, if you were in health care,

1:09:16

all of the things that we all know

1:09:19

about. But as we speak,

1:09:21

this is brand new. So that article is

1:09:23

just what we saw in a very quick

1:09:25

cursory look at the data that is now

1:09:27

coming in. It's now available to you on

1:09:29

the website, and this is why that's important.

1:09:31

If you have, are sort of inspired or

1:09:33

prone to want to do your own

1:09:36

investigation, there is investigations to be done.

1:09:38

We want you. You know, we're still

1:09:40

a small staff here. We're doing our

1:09:42

best to get this information. You

1:09:44

should take this to your universities. You should take

1:09:46

it into your think tanks and start studying it

1:09:49

and see what you can find. Just

1:09:51

as we were starting this show, I was

1:09:53

told just a few minutes ago, we just

1:09:55

found, someone just found another entry point in

1:09:58

this data that just dropped. This is

1:10:00

how you get to it. You can go to our website,

1:10:02

go to Be Safe, Access Now. There

1:10:04

is the dashboard, and then if you

1:10:06

want to browse the tranches of data as they're

1:10:08

coming in, boom, there you can click. Look

1:10:11

at what we just found. This is

1:10:13

one entry point that was written in.

1:10:16

I got the vaccine on Wednesday, six

1:10:18

since then, having heart attack this AM.

1:10:20

I'm in the hospital at this minute.

1:10:22

This is what they're writing into their

1:10:25

Be Safe app. Heart

1:10:27

attack Sunday, they write in.

1:10:29

Then passed away is

1:10:31

the last entry in the

1:10:33

Be Safe data. Folks,

1:10:36

they told us they don't have a single

1:10:38

circumstance in which they think there was a

1:10:40

signal of death. We know that there's no

1:10:43

way that that's true. We're

1:10:45

going to keep looking through this data. You

1:10:47

can help us do that. Please, use our

1:10:49

website. Use the tools. We are fighting for

1:10:52

you, but we can't do it all. You

1:10:54

need to get involved. If you're in science,

1:10:56

if you're a good epidemiologist, all

1:10:58

of this information is coming your way. All of

1:11:01

this to say what other

1:11:03

news agency in the world have you

1:11:05

ever watched that just did what I just did

1:11:07

just now? That talked about a

1:11:09

problem, a lie that they pushed on

1:11:11

you, by the way, those same news

1:11:13

agencies lied to you about the safety

1:11:15

of this product. Just trust in the

1:11:17

experts that we told you on the

1:11:19

high wire, they're lying to you. They're

1:11:21

lying. We have evidence. We

1:11:23

have evidence of the emergency

1:11:25

use authorization by the FDA. We've been

1:11:27

showing you the evidence all along. Now,

1:11:30

on the backside of it, we are

1:11:32

gathering the evidence that you should see

1:11:34

that they knew about and lied about.

1:11:37

CNN isn't doing that. MSNBC isn't doing that.

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Not even Fox is doing that. No one

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is doing that for you. No

1:11:43

one is fighting for you. Can you imagine

1:11:45

what it costs to spend years in courtrooms

1:11:48

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1:11:52

it easily, so that the scientists of the

1:11:54

world can finally have access to data that

1:11:56

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1:11:58

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1:13:17

One of the biggest heroes that I

1:13:20

got to meet very early on right

1:13:22

when I had made the film vax

1:13:25

Was dr. Suzanne Humphries a

1:13:27

nephrologist Who was

1:13:29

speaking out with sort of almost I

1:13:31

mean sort of at the same time

1:13:33

She was a quiet beautiful wonderful doctor

1:13:36

but just had the voice of a

1:13:38

lion when it came to what she

1:13:40

had discovered and Probably one of the

1:13:42

most important books ever written about

1:13:44

Vaccination when you hear somebody say well,

1:13:46

what about the polio vaccine? Well, what

1:13:48

about the smallpox vaccine that saved us

1:13:50

Are you saying that that was bad,

1:13:52

too? Well, you should read

1:13:55

dissolving illusions and if

1:13:57

you had you would realize that one of the

1:13:59

greatest heroes in history as

1:14:01

we celebrate great women in history

1:14:04

especially in the area of medical

1:14:06

health and freedom it's

1:14:08

Suzanne Humphries and here

1:14:11

is what she is like Dr.

1:14:13

Suzanne Humphries Dr. Suzanne

1:14:15

Humphries Dr. Suzanne Humphries is

1:14:18

a highly educated specialist in internal medicine

1:14:20

and nephrology. I don't have a horse

1:14:22

in this race I don't have a

1:14:24

vaccine injured child what I

1:14:26

did is I saw problems in my own patients

1:14:29

everything changed for me in 2009 when I started

1:14:31

noticing that vaccines given to patients

1:14:34

on hospital admission were causing problems

1:14:36

on top of the acute illness

1:14:38

I used to berate my friends into vaccinating

1:14:41

I was that doctor who used to guilt

1:14:43

my patients into vaccines I realized

1:14:45

that I was miseducated and I realized

1:14:48

there was a huge problem going on

1:14:50

around me in the hospital I kept hearing

1:14:53

these doctors said to me no it's not

1:14:55

the vaccine it can't be the vaccine

1:14:58

vaccines are safe and effective and they're

1:15:00

necessary and you can give them to everybody

1:15:02

the only difference between them and me is

1:15:04

that I went and looked for myself and

1:15:07

I found answers that that turned

1:15:09

my world upside down when I

1:15:11

see a problem I grab

1:15:14

it by the horns and I deal

1:15:16

with it so it's really been my

1:15:18

priority to read and read and read

1:15:20

and understand as much of the science

1:15:22

and the medical literature as possible I

1:15:24

have taken the past eight years of

1:15:26

my life to intensively study the history

1:15:28

of vaccination immunology

1:15:31

as well as the components of childhood

1:15:33

vaccines and their effects upon the body

1:15:35

this is such an important issue for me

1:15:37

that I've given up everything the more

1:15:40

science I know the more indignant and

1:15:42

upset I get the science shows

1:15:44

major problems with the

1:15:47

theory of vaccination and with the practice

1:15:49

of vaccination having studied vaccination longer than

1:15:51

I studied anything else in my life

1:15:54

I can say that human beings have actually created

1:15:57

a lot of their own problem after

1:15:59

a long time of research, she wrote a book

1:16:01

called Dissolving Illusions, Disease, Vaccines

1:16:04

and the Forgotten History.

1:16:06

Smallpox could not have possibly been

1:16:08

eradicated by a vaccine because only 5 to 10%

1:16:10

of the entire world was

1:16:12

ever vaccinated with sanitation. So we

1:16:15

have more to thank our plumbers

1:16:17

for and our trash collectors than

1:16:20

we do the medical system or vaccination. Never

1:16:22

has there been a safe vaccine. Not

1:16:24

even one of them, let alone

1:16:26

numerous vaccines in the childhood vaccination

1:16:29

program given earlier and earlier and

1:16:31

more and more. The diseases are

1:16:33

often said, oh, that would have

1:16:35

happened anyway. But parents who watch

1:16:37

this happen, having a gun, know

1:16:40

otherwise. It's a systemic problem. Medical

1:16:42

doctors are not taught with the vaccines that are

1:16:45

given. The vaccine schedule told they are safe

1:16:47

and effective and save lives, as

1:16:49

you heard over and over and

1:16:51

over again. I don't even believe

1:16:53

a little bit in vaccines. There's

1:16:55

no possible way that injecting animal

1:16:58

matter, live viruses and toxins, as

1:17:00

well as chemicals fromaldehyde, aluminum, actually

1:17:03

promotes health. I believe that they could

1:17:05

do more harm to me that I

1:17:07

may never be able to make up

1:17:09

for. There are too many vaccines too

1:17:11

early. There's no end in sight to

1:17:13

how many vaccines people are going to

1:17:15

be recommended to have. We can't just

1:17:17

keep religiously repeating vaccines are safe, effective

1:17:19

and necessary while people are getting very

1:17:21

sick and not getting compensated for

1:17:23

the lives that are lost. Just

1:17:28

by honor and ultimate pleasure to

1:17:30

be joined now by Dr. Suzanne

1:17:32

Humphries. Suzanne,

1:17:35

I just saw that video

1:17:38

this morning and I'd forgotten

1:17:40

just how strong and assertive

1:17:43

your voice was as we

1:17:46

were sort of traveling the country and

1:17:48

involved with speaking engagements together. There's been

1:17:50

a lot of pussyfoot around. Some people

1:17:52

are trying to use softer language

1:17:55

but boy, there's just no

1:17:57

question. I

1:18:00

mean, let me just make sure I

1:18:02

know we're talking about the 10th anniversary

1:18:04

release of dissolving illusions Does

1:18:06

that still represent your perspective because we haven't really

1:18:08

talked want to make sure that maybe you haven't

1:18:10

softened on this topic before we get going Yeah,

1:18:14

no, it's funny because I just watched this whole

1:18:17

COVID thing unfold just like you did I'm sure

1:18:19

you had the same feeling it's like you

1:18:21

weren't surprised about anything. Were you? No, no, not

1:18:23

at all. In fact, we honestly Yeah

1:18:27

We were we were credited with almost being

1:18:29

psychic as though somehow we predicted where everything

1:18:31

was going But it was

1:18:34

just obvious how the game was played So,

1:18:36

you know, we it was sort of like

1:18:38

it was like getting a farmer's almanac from

1:18:40

the future You know, we you know, we

1:18:42

were able to make some really safe bets

1:18:44

and our audience exploded because

1:18:46

of it Yeah,

1:18:49

right I know I mean I remember when

1:18:51

I was waking up in the hospital and I thought all

1:18:53

this is really bad and then But then we saw Garda

1:18:55

still happened and we thought it couldn't get any worse than

1:18:57

that. And now here we are You

1:19:00

know with COVID that's like, you know that

1:19:02

vaccine so much worse than even the Garda

1:19:04

still vaccine. So what's next? Yeah,

1:19:06

no, we're going definitely in the wrong direction

1:19:09

So dissolving illusions, I mean for people that

1:19:11

haven't read it I mean that is the

1:19:13

most you know, I don't

1:19:16

recommend another book more Because

1:19:18

the big question we always get from

1:19:20

people that are entering into this conversation

1:19:22

And there's a lot of them right

1:19:24

now millions of people around the world

1:19:27

because of COVID now recognize Okay,

1:19:29

I know that vaccine was a sham.

1:19:31

I watched them lie to me. I

1:19:34

watched them rush the trials

1:19:36

It wasn't properly tested now.

1:19:39

I'm questioning what about all of those

1:19:41

other vaccines? But the question they always

1:19:44

ask is what about polio? What

1:19:46

about smallpox and that's what makes your

1:19:48

book So amazing

1:19:51

is all of the evidence you have that

1:19:53

there was a pushback even back then people

1:19:56

Were anti-vaxx then saying why are we

1:19:58

not talking about all the people getting

1:20:00

polio as we just covered earlier,

1:20:02

the Salkbacke, like getting polio from

1:20:05

the vaccine itself, having, you know,

1:20:07

cancers and things like that, smallpox

1:20:09

similarly. So

1:20:12

what is it we can expect from

1:20:14

the 10th anniversary edition? What is new

1:20:16

about the book

1:20:19

that we've been looking at

1:20:21

for now 10 years? Well, there

1:20:24

are 200 extra pages. So we were

1:20:26

debating whether to write a second book

1:20:28

or whether to add to the Dissolving

1:20:30

Illusions book. And we chose to add

1:20:32

to the Dissolving Illusions book. So there's,

1:20:34

you know, in the 10 years since

1:20:37

the first publication in 2013, you

1:20:42

know, I've learned a lot more and Roman

1:20:45

has learned a lot more and there's history. So

1:20:49

we added a lot of that. There's a lot

1:20:51

of additions into smallpox. There's actually more addition into

1:20:53

polio. And there's a

1:20:55

chapter now on tuberculosis, which we

1:20:57

didn't have in the first book. Wow.

1:21:00

Interesting. It looks like you've got, you've got

1:21:02

sort of three new books

1:21:04

coming our way. There's the 10th anniversary

1:21:06

edition and then there's the 10th anniversary

1:21:09

limited edition. What's the difference between

1:21:12

those two? So

1:21:15

the limited edition has, it's all color

1:21:18

and it has lots of photos from

1:21:21

our travels over the 10 years, Romans

1:21:23

and mine. I think Catherine and Patrick are

1:21:25

actually in there. And

1:21:28

so it's just, it's just a little more of a

1:21:30

special book and it has our signatures on it. All

1:21:33

right. Excellent. Then there's one accompanying book

1:21:35

that you have, which is the

1:21:38

third book that's available. This is

1:21:40

the companion and reference. Why

1:21:43

is that necessary? What is the companion

1:21:45

and reference book about? Well, so there

1:21:47

was a lot that we couldn't put into dissolving

1:21:49

illusions. I mean, we had piles

1:21:51

and mountains of information. So

1:21:54

what the companion book really is,

1:21:56

I'd say there's probably

1:21:58

over two or three. 300

1:22:01

doctors quotes from the

1:22:03

smallpox era and the proxy

1:22:06

vaccine production era that

1:22:09

sound just like the doctors of today.

1:22:11

They're just basically crying out in desperation,

1:22:13

regretting the day that they ever gave a

1:22:15

vaccine and have a lot to say about

1:22:18

what was going on around them. So it's

1:22:20

pretty profound when you see the boots on

1:22:22

the ground from back then pretty much saying

1:22:24

the same thing that we're saying today. So

1:22:27

chapters of different books that are difficult

1:22:29

to find. We put those all together.

1:22:31

So it's another 600 page

1:22:35

book there. It's fully

1:22:37

referenced. And so it's more of

1:22:39

a reference and companion to dissolving

1:22:41

delusions. All right. You

1:22:44

keep referencing Roman who I know is

1:22:46

your co-author. Tell me a little bit

1:22:48

about him and what your process has

1:22:50

been together in writing the original book

1:22:52

and then now this 10th anniversary edition.

1:22:55

Okay, so Roman is his specialty

1:22:57

is computer science. So he has

1:22:59

a real a real mind for

1:23:01

a graph in charts and numbers

1:23:04

and he also loves history. So we

1:23:07

were basically the perfect match for writing this

1:23:09

book because I have the medical background. I've

1:23:11

got a physics background, but I can't do

1:23:13

what he does. So he

1:23:16

did an enormous amount of research

1:23:18

and he basically gathered these vital

1:23:20

statistics world that even people who hate our

1:23:22

guts don't argue with the numbers of the

1:23:24

numbers. And he drew graphs

1:23:26

and then he drew the arrows in

1:23:29

where the vaccines or

1:23:31

the antibiotics or the toxoids came

1:23:33

in and noted

1:23:35

the others one right there that it's

1:23:38

the same story again and again and

1:23:40

again. The same story repeated for just

1:23:42

about every disease is that the death

1:23:44

rate was down by over sometimes 99%

1:23:48

before either the antibiotic or the

1:23:50

vaccine was introduced. And

1:23:52

so that that kind of threw his

1:23:54

world upside down. So he started researching

1:23:56

history and at that time he was

1:23:58

probably knee deep into. doing what he

1:24:00

was doing and then he found me after I

1:24:02

was on a talk show back in 2012 and

1:24:07

I would write a book with him and at first I

1:24:09

was only going to write the folio chapter and

1:24:12

then keep my hands out of the rest of

1:24:14

it so it became a dual effort. Roman

1:24:17

has put in seriously amazing amounts of

1:24:19

work. He developed the website. He does

1:24:21

all the talking with printers and just

1:24:24

one of the nicest, hardest working people you'll

1:24:27

ever know. One

1:24:29

of the stories that

1:24:32

I've been following on this polio is

1:24:34

the fact that we now are seeing

1:24:36

polio outbreaks around the

1:24:38

world. We're starting to see in the Middle

1:24:40

East, third world, where they're using vaccination

1:24:43

that it appears as vaccine

1:24:45

strain polio is starting to

1:24:48

spread. I also see stories

1:24:50

of their finding polio in the sewage

1:24:52

system in New York City. I know

1:24:54

I'm surprising you with this

1:24:57

question so if it's not something you

1:24:59

really looked at but it just seems

1:25:01

to me that they'll want to say that

1:25:04

we eradicated polio and one of the things

1:25:06

I say is, well that story

1:25:08

isn't over yet. We don't know where

1:25:10

polio is at. We're seeing it start

1:25:12

to move and if in the end,

1:25:14

in a few years, we're all battling

1:25:16

polio again and maybe a vaccine strain

1:25:18

form, certainly history will tell a different

1:25:20

story. Have you been watching any of

1:25:22

that issue? I mean I know the

1:25:24

CDC is very concerned but they're not

1:25:26

open with the public about it. Right,

1:25:31

so this again is kind of

1:25:33

an old story that just keeps resurfacing

1:25:35

that they keep looking in the sewage

1:25:38

virus and if

1:25:40

you look you will find it. So

1:25:42

again, we always have to come back to

1:25:45

the question, what is polio? Yes, help me

1:25:47

with that. So polio never went away? Yeah, polio

1:25:51

never left us. Poliomyelitis

1:25:54

is a description of the physical condition which

1:25:57

includes paralysis of one or more muscle

1:25:59

groups that last for, you know, it

1:26:01

used to be 24 hours

1:26:03

before the vaccine and then they extended it to

1:26:05

60 days so they could wipe out 90% of

1:26:08

the diagnoses after the vaccine. But

1:26:10

the fact of the matter is that it's

1:26:12

usually damaged the posterior horn and spinal

1:26:14

cord and it

1:26:16

never went away. It was renamed,

1:26:18

it was recategorized and as the

1:26:20

doctor experts in the 1950s adamantly

1:26:24

stated that we would have lost 90% of

1:26:26

our polio diagnoses simply by

1:26:28

the diagnostic criteria changes that

1:26:30

occurred. So let's just

1:26:32

talk about paralysis. So if we're looking at

1:26:35

paralysis, you know, one

1:26:37

of my heroes is Dr. Jacob Pugliel

1:26:39

who did a study that we put

1:26:41

in Dissolving Illusions where he looked at

1:26:43

the circulation, I'm sorry,

1:26:46

the pulse polio rounds where they

1:26:48

basically force oral polio vaccines on

1:26:50

children, sometimes up to 30 times and

1:26:54

the corresponding paralysis rate. Now you

1:26:56

would think that paralysis would go down with these

1:26:58

wonderful vaccines but in fact

1:27:01

what he saw was the paralysis

1:27:03

rate rose and now Dissolving Illusions

1:27:05

was published, he's done some more research

1:27:07

because of his outcry.

1:27:10

They've diminished, not gotten rid

1:27:12

of the pulse polio but they decreased it

1:27:14

significantly and he has a new paper. Guess

1:27:17

what? Paralysis has gone

1:27:19

down in conjunction with that.

1:27:22

Wow. So yeah. I

1:27:25

mean that's some of the best

1:27:27

evidence, you know, that I've discovered in science

1:27:30

is if you increase something it gets worse,

1:27:32

then you decrease it, we see the problem

1:27:34

decrease. It's a

1:27:36

pretty strong, you know, red flag

1:27:39

at the very least but it's really strong

1:27:41

evidence that this thing is causing the problem

1:27:43

we're looking at. Just

1:27:46

watching the varying degrees. What else, you know,

1:27:48

what else do you think? What

1:27:50

is the most compelling argument if you get stuck

1:27:52

with someone in an elevator and they

1:27:54

say well what about the polio vaccine, what's

1:27:57

the elevator pitch, what is the part of it we should all

1:27:59

be focused on? on as a part of the conversation?

1:28:04

I think what we should be focused on are

1:28:06

the facts and the data rather than the stories

1:28:08

that we hear, my grandmother had polio, blah, blah,

1:28:10

blah. Well, you know what? Your grandmother might have

1:28:13

got it from somebody who was vaccinated

1:28:15

who was shedding a vaccine strain.

1:28:18

That's one thing. Your

1:28:20

grandmother may not have even had a

1:28:22

polio virus. She could have had other

1:28:25

things that went on around the same time

1:28:27

that could have made any viral infection more

1:28:29

invasive. So these N equals 1,

1:28:31

you know, it's good. You know, that's how we

1:28:34

all start thinking is we see something happen. We

1:28:36

see one case and we think further on it,

1:28:38

but we have to keep looking and we have

1:28:40

to look at the data. And

1:28:42

there were trials done on the polio

1:28:44

vaccine. And I think one

1:28:46

of the biggest interesting things is that

1:28:48

they didn't release the data on that

1:28:51

horribly fraudulent, very poorly designed trial

1:28:54

with very bad interpretations of the statistics.

1:28:56

They didn't even give doctors at the

1:28:59

time the data until two years

1:29:01

later. Okay. So doctors

1:29:03

were pretty much rounded up and said, here's

1:29:05

the vaccine that we've all been waiting for. Give

1:29:07

it. They weren't given information. Even

1:29:09

the doctors that were told to give it

1:29:12

and it was licensed in a matter of

1:29:15

eight hours. That's pretty much a record for

1:29:17

them. In eight hours, they pressured the

1:29:19

committee to license

1:29:22

the vaccine the day that the Francis

1:29:24

trial data was supposedly finished. So there,

1:29:27

I just say, look, you have to look at

1:29:29

the history of what happened around here. That's what

1:29:31

dissolving illusions is all about. Why would this have

1:29:33

been going on like this? What was making people

1:29:36

die? What was making people crippled? Let's

1:29:38

look at the history of how people were living and what

1:29:40

they were bathing in and marinating

1:29:42

in and society. What

1:29:45

are the drugs that people are using to treat?

1:29:47

I mean, every disease that has the vaccine

1:29:49

in history, the doctors were doing the most

1:29:51

insane things to treat the disease. So why

1:29:53

were these legs paralyzed? Good question.

1:29:55

I had to ask that. I had to research that.

1:30:00

And putting children in

1:30:02

camps for two years. So

1:30:06

we have to look

1:30:08

at the treatments of, it's the same with

1:30:10

COVID. How are people being treated? Completely poisoning

1:30:12

them. Wrong treatments. Not

1:30:15

allowing the right treatments to be

1:30:17

given. I mean, it's just, there's

1:30:19

so many amazingly easy arguments to

1:30:21

kill this polio idea. It's

1:30:23

not even funny. So it's an easy one.

1:30:25

Trap me in that elevator any day. Polio

1:30:27

is one I can just nail in five

1:30:29

minutes, probably. Let's

1:30:34

talk about smallpox for a second. I mean,

1:30:36

there's a lot on polio, but smallpox is

1:30:38

very terrifying. One of the things I always

1:30:40

find shocking is when they'll say, you know,

1:30:44

the anti-vaxxers are going to bring back

1:30:46

smallpox. You're going to take us

1:30:48

back to the dark ages. Or do you want

1:30:50

to be like Africa? You know,

1:30:53

one of the arguments I make, you know,

1:30:55

is that, you know, there's

1:30:57

a bigger invention than vaccines. How about the

1:30:59

toilet? Like if you put toilets and sewage,

1:31:01

you know, sewage systems in Africa right now

1:31:04

and the places we're talking about, we might see very different

1:31:06

outcomes. We can't go back to

1:31:08

the dark ages because so much has changed in

1:31:11

our society that are part of this. But

1:31:14

the smallpox conversation, you

1:31:17

know, is there a fear?

1:31:19

Should we fear? I mean, do

1:31:21

we even, I mean, how many places vaccinate

1:31:23

for smallpox any longer? I

1:31:28

think it only has to be voluntary, somebody who wants

1:31:30

it, probably military,

1:31:32

if you know. I don't think

1:31:34

right now it's really used because I think

1:31:37

that the reputation of

1:31:40

that smallpox vaccine is so awful

1:31:42

because even doctors that are still alive today,

1:31:44

like Dr. Thomas Mack, who we quote in

1:31:46

the book, is talking about the

1:31:48

severity of the smallpox vaccine,

1:31:50

how it's not an easily transmissible. This

1:31:53

is a regular pro-vaccine doctor, okay? It's

1:31:55

not an easily transmissible virus. It travels

1:31:58

on large droplets. And

1:32:00

the best way to get it is to embed yourself

1:32:03

in this bed sheets of somebody who had it.

1:32:05

Okay. So it's not like you can just sneeze

1:32:07

and get it from somebody in the room. Doctors rarely

1:32:09

caught it from their patients. I mean, that's a lot of

1:32:11

what's in the companion book is

1:32:13

talking about the actual contagion rate

1:32:15

that happened. But

1:32:18

1 thing that's another consistency

1:32:20

in vaccination history is

1:32:22

that the mortality rates for

1:32:24

the different diseases going up after the

1:32:27

vaccines are deployed. So, look at COVID.

1:32:29

Okay. But the same thing happened

1:32:31

with smallpox. The mortality rate for smallpox

1:32:33

rose after the vaccine was introduced. If

1:32:36

you understand how that vaccine was

1:32:38

created, and that it's still the

1:32:40

same genetic strain that was used

1:32:42

today in today's vaccines. They

1:32:44

were basically taking pus from the

1:32:46

utter of a cow, into

1:32:49

a human combining that with

1:32:52

pus from a corpse of a human mixing

1:32:54

it together, putting it into a rabbit, then

1:32:57

putting it into a human, then doing arm

1:32:59

to arm vaccination and passing the supposed pure

1:33:01

lymph around from animal to person and back

1:33:04

again, because they thought if they added it

1:33:06

back into the animal population, and then the humans that

1:33:08

it will be a stronger vaccine, and it will be

1:33:10

so much better. It was always anybody's

1:33:12

guess what was in there, but what we do know

1:33:14

is that it was loaded with. It

1:33:16

was loaded with bacteria. Sometimes the

1:33:18

bacterial count were higher than the

1:33:20

viral counts that vaccine. So I

1:33:23

think 1 of the questions we

1:33:25

have to have is how could that concoction

1:33:27

of scum have eradicated anything?

1:33:29

And it didn't, it

1:33:32

didn't. What about? It's

1:33:35

a smallpox with

1:33:38

and isolation of 6 people. Okay. That's the

1:33:40

most important thing. We have to get out

1:33:42

of. We don't isolate the well people. We

1:33:45

isolate 6 people and we treat them appropriately.

1:33:48

And that's how we got

1:33:50

rid of smallpox. Now, if you now today

1:33:52

monkey pox is back. Okay. It looks exactly

1:33:54

like smallpox back in the day when people

1:33:56

were making these diagnoses. They wouldn't have been

1:33:59

doing genetic testing. on them. So chicken

1:34:01

pox, small pox, monkey pox, goat pox,

1:34:03

horse pox, cow pox, we have all looked

1:34:05

the same to these people. And it's very

1:34:08

well known that small

1:34:10

pox would follow the vaccination very

1:34:13

easily. There was no, as you talk about controlled

1:34:15

studies, because I was listening to your show earlier,

1:34:17

there's no controlled studies done on the small pox ever.

1:34:21

Wow. Wow. That's,

1:34:23

I mean, it's just, it's really amazing how,

1:34:25

you know, I guess, as they say, history

1:34:28

is written by the victors, right?

1:34:30

The medical establishment seems

1:34:33

to have won at least the last

1:34:35

several rounds of the public health discussion

1:34:37

and have rewritten the history, which is

1:34:39

why, you know, your book is so

1:34:42

incredible because you cite all

1:34:44

the doctors giving firsthand accounts of the

1:34:46

problems they're seeing with the vaccines, not

1:34:48

using it. You had, you know, what

1:34:50

is it? The Lister, I always say

1:34:53

that wrong. What did the Lister

1:34:55

experiment, the city in Leicester, in

1:34:57

England that, you know, sort

1:34:59

of refused the vaccine and went with a

1:35:01

program of just isolation and really

1:35:03

had the best results of

1:35:05

almost, you know, in any city in

1:35:08

the world around that issue. And so, you

1:35:12

know, you made a statement that there's no

1:35:14

vaccine that is safe and effective, I think,

1:35:16

and there never will be. I suppose

1:35:20

I haven't even gone that far

1:35:23

necessarily, which is, is it just

1:35:25

not possible to make the concept

1:35:27

of vaccination work? Because I

1:35:29

will say, you know, Edward Jenner, for

1:35:31

what it's worth, I think he, you

1:35:34

know, was inspired. He had a,

1:35:36

it's a beautiful concept that somehow

1:35:38

we could take a lesser form

1:35:41

of a disease and avoid ever

1:35:43

having the tragedy of having gone

1:35:45

through it. But, you know,

1:35:47

in the end, what is it

1:35:50

about that process that is so

1:35:52

incredibly flawed and can't be overcome

1:35:55

in the modern

1:35:58

world? Okay. Well,

1:36:00

I first want to start by saying that

1:36:03

in Edward Jenner's time, tuberculosis was a

1:36:06

hundred times higher killer than

1:36:08

smallpox. So I'm not

1:36:10

there. I can't judge Edward Jenner's heart,

1:36:12

but I can say that he probably

1:36:15

became very wealthy, very quick and very

1:36:17

famous very quickly for

1:36:19

doing what he did. And

1:36:21

he wasn't combating a disease that was as

1:36:23

bad as we are told. And

1:36:26

it was a disease that could have been combatted another

1:36:28

way. And when his

1:36:30

first subject died of consumption, which

1:36:32

was very common after the smallpox

1:36:35

vaccination, he should have been alerted that maybe

1:36:37

it was something he was doing. And

1:36:39

that was the pattern. But he was basically

1:36:41

turned into a god. And then

1:36:43

so that the reputation of vaccination starts up and

1:36:45

then we have one vaccine after another coming on

1:36:47

the scene. And then we have 1986. And

1:36:51

after 1986, the pharmaceutical companies were

1:36:53

then empowered to carry on, expand

1:36:56

their technology, start making recombinant DNA

1:36:59

and plasmid vaccines and things like

1:37:01

that. And now today, in my

1:37:03

opinion, with all the technology we

1:37:06

have, I think the safety profile has gone

1:37:08

down significantly. So now we

1:37:10

can now make all these wonderful vaccines

1:37:12

on tobacco plants, these clean vaccines.

1:37:15

Oh, we're not going to require animal products to

1:37:18

do any of it. So we're going to limit that problem. We

1:37:21

have fungus problems. We have all kinds

1:37:23

of problems that can occur in grapes. This is an early

1:37:25

industry. They actually did make a COVID vaccine

1:37:27

on tobacco plant, but it was

1:37:29

discontinued because they didn't want to

1:37:31

give Philip Morris any

1:37:34

credit bill. The World Health Organization,

1:37:37

apparently they do have some morals

1:37:39

beyond me. But anyway, I

1:37:41

think that the safety profile has gone way

1:37:43

down. Like I'm sad. Like I know a

1:37:45

lot of people, especially people that live here

1:37:47

and people with autistic children have problems with

1:37:49

the measles vaccine. But give me a measles

1:37:51

vaccine any day over a COVID vaccine. And

1:37:54

what we're looking at in the future is now because

1:37:56

there's free reign on these pharmaceutical companies. They can literally

1:37:58

come up with a vaccine. for a new

1:38:01

supposed disease in four weeks. So that's

1:38:03

a real boon to the industry and

1:38:05

I can just keep going. What kind

1:38:07

of, they don't ever, well,