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1:59
If that happened and Hitler could see no
2:02
other conclusion, then obviously
2:04
the capital would fall and terms
2:06
could be agreed to, as Stalin would
2:09
have no one else to resist for him. So
2:12
the key was the destruction of all
2:14
Soviet forces in Western Russia. Everything
2:17
else would take care of itself. Not
2:20
that every officer in Berlin agreed
2:23
with this, the most notable exception
2:25
being Army Chief of Staff General
2:27
Franz Halder, who was more of a traditionalist.
2:31
You take the capital, that's how both
2:33
sides know who won. But
2:35
that is a discussion for another day. The
2:38
man picked to lead the vaunted Army
2:41
Group Center was Field Marshal
2:43
Theodor von Bock. Bock had
2:45
done well in previous battles and thus
2:48
Hitler chose for him this plum
2:50
assignment. Bock would command
2:52
the 4th and 9th armies, two
2:55
armored groups and a large section
2:57
of the Luftwaffe for air cover. The
2:59
world would tremble and be changed
3:02
by Army Group Center. At least
3:04
that was the plan. One
3:06
of the many ironies of the Eastern
3:08
Front was that, as Poland
3:10
was divided between Germany and Russia,
3:13
with the latter taking the Baltic states
3:15
later, the main Soviet defensive
3:17
group, that is the Western Special
3:20
Military District, or WSMD,
3:23
under Colonel General D.G. Pavlov,
3:26
was actually closer to Berlin than
3:28
Moscow. This of course would
3:30
hurt Stalin in the first six months of the
3:32
war, as the WSMD
3:35
would be severely mauled by Army
3:37
Group Center. However, even
3:39
though the opening phases of Barbarossa
3:41
went well for Berlin, they would
3:44
find they were still a very
3:46
long ways away from reaching Moscow.
3:49
And in war, space equals
3:52
time. But that's in the future. Barbarossa
3:55
was not simply to remove communism
3:57
from Europe, it was to give the growing
3:59
Nazi states. state, additional fertile
4:01
land, and there was one more
4:03
thing. Yes, Hitler may have
4:06
been saying since the 1920s that
4:08
the words Bolshevik and Jews were
4:10
interchangeable, which is incorrect,
4:13
but he certainly wanted to rid the world of
4:16
Communists, Jews and
4:18
Slavs. As none of these groups
4:20
were considered a positive by Hitler, they
4:23
were to be gotten rid of, thus strengthening
4:25
the Nazi state, which meant this
4:28
was total war. Behind
4:30
the various army groups there were to be Einsatzgruppen,
4:34
or deployment groups, made up
4:36
of paramilitary death squads that
4:38
would help destroy Germany's enemies.
4:41
All this was to be arranged by Reichsführer
4:44
SS Heinrich Himmler, who was
4:46
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Unlike when France or Denmark or
6:17
Norway was taken, the plan to conquer
6:19
Russia was 11 months in
6:21
the making. So Berlin expected
6:23
it to be all but over in six
6:25
to 10 weeks, though there was much
6:28
they did not anticipate that military
6:30
prowess could not overcome,
6:33
like the paltry state of Russian
6:35
roads and rail lines. Again,
6:37
Hitler had set the expectations, kicking
6:41
the door to Soviet Russia, i.e.
6:43
its forces in between Germany
6:45
and Moscow, and the whole rotten
6:47
structure would collapse. Opposing
6:50
this, Moscow and Stalin
6:52
in particular could not help but
6:55
be stunned when Nazi Germany overran
6:57
country after country in mere
7:00
weeks, thus completely wrecking
7:02
any expectations based off
7:04
the last war. So General
7:07
Zhukov was ordered to carry out war
7:09
games in late 1940, and
7:11
acting as the commanding invading general,
7:14
it did not take much on his part to
7:17
show how weak and uneven Stalin's
7:19
defensive lines were. Zhukov
7:22
was able to encircle and destroy
7:24
the first echelon of Soviet defenses,
7:27
which would match closely with what
7:29
would happen in the future. So
7:32
in private, where only whispers exist,
7:35
the word went out that the WSMD,
7:38
instead of being a military formation
7:41
large enough to not need quick outside
7:44
help if attacked, was now
7:46
to be sacrificed to the gods of
7:48
war, to buy Stalin time.
7:51
And it hurt the Soviet leader that his military
7:54
men had yet to come up with a strong
7:56
counter to the blitzkrieg. Thus,
7:59
the sacrifice. of WSMD.
8:03
During the night of June 20th, 21st, 1941, von Bock's troops moved
8:05
themselves and
8:10
their equipment closer to the border
8:13
of no man's land, in between German
8:15
and Soviet controlled territory. As
8:18
for actually going on the offensive, the
8:20
men, the Germans, were only given
8:23
eight hours warning. Of
8:25
course, all this movement was spotted by
8:27
the nearby Soviets, who told General
8:30
Pavlov, who in return asked
8:32
General Timoshenko for permission to
8:35
alert his men. The approval
8:37
did not come until 3.05 a.m. June 22nd.
8:39
The attack had started
8:44
five minutes before that. More specifically,
8:47
given the geography of the Baltic States,
8:49
the 9th Army and 3rd Panzer Groups
8:52
moved out at 3.05 a.m.
8:54
to coincide with Army Group North.
8:57
This had to be a united front
9:00
to make sure the enemy was not able to launch
9:02
their own attack or slip
9:04
around a partially moving German
9:07
offensive. This left the
9:09
4th Army Group and the 2nd Panzer Group
9:11
of Army Group Center to move out
9:14
at 3.15 a.m. Now
9:17
that the battle was on, Colonel General
9:19
Heinz Guderian, commander of the 2nd
9:21
Panzer Group, used speed and
9:24
audacity to capture bridges over
9:26
the river Bunk. Elsewhere, the
9:29
Panzer Regiment 18 used 80 specially
9:32
modified submarine tanks to
9:34
wade across, and though General
9:36
Hermann Halsman, the 3rd Panzer
9:38
Group, had only dry land in front
9:41
of them, they knew their chance
9:43
to cross a river would be coming soon,
9:46
and there would be many chances.
9:49
The Russians did not actively fight back
9:52
for the first few hours, as Stalin
9:54
had made them fearful of doing anything
9:56
to upset the Germans. The
12:00
two Darians' 3rd Panzer Division bypassed,
12:03
as best they could, the forest near
12:05
Brest, itself located about 70
12:07
miles or 112 kilometers south of Bialystok. First
12:12
they found that the sandy terrain there
12:15
used up much more fuel than expected.
12:18
They also found out, in a rather painful
12:20
way, that the Soviets were better
12:22
fighters amongst the trees. Another
12:27
crack that showed itself early on was
12:29
the different opinions of how this
12:31
battle should be fought by higher command.
12:35
After Bialystok was surrounded, Hitler
12:37
wanted the Panzer units of Army Group
12:39
Center to halt until
12:42
that pocket was reduced to nothing.
12:45
But General Franz Halder, Chief of Staff
12:47
of the Army High Command, or OKH,
12:50
fought against this and ordered von
12:52
Bock to keep going. His
12:55
compromise for when Hitler heard of
12:57
this counter-order was to tell
12:59
the Fuhrer that the Soviet pocket would
13:01
be surrounded by two rings. The
13:04
inner ring facing the Soviets would
13:06
be made of infantry, while the outer
13:08
ring protecting the infantry would
13:11
be comprised of armor. But
13:13
when Hitler found out, he once again ordered
13:16
the armor of Army Group Center
13:18
to stop.
13:19
As this flew in the face of everything
13:22
that Blitzkrieg was built upon, CNC
13:25
of the Army Walter von Braucht
13:28
knew he had to get involved. Even
13:31
worse, many German generals did
13:33
not think that Barbarossa would
13:35
be as easy as Hitler assumed
13:38
and stopping the panzers certainly wouldn't
13:40
make victory come any sooner. So
13:43
von Braucht ordered General Hoth to
13:45
keep moving with his armor in
13:47
the northern section of Army Group
13:50
Center's area of responsibility,
13:52
and for Guderian to do the same on
13:55
the southern side. All this
13:57
was labeled reconnaissance.
14:01
The same thing had happened during the Battle of
14:03
France, when the Panzers were about
14:06
to reach the coast. Hitler became
14:08
spooked by his own success and
14:11
ordered the Panzers to stop. But
14:13
the OKH ordered them on, again
14:16
under the cover of Reconnaissance
14:18
in force. But coming back
14:21
to June 1941, what
14:23
this boils down to is that Army Group
14:25
Center, the central thrust,
14:28
was now presenting an uneven
14:30
front, with the two flanks moving
14:32
on and fast, while the center
14:34
section slowed down, waiting
14:37
for Bialy Stok to fall.
14:41
To be sure, Stalin had been screaming counter-attack
14:44
this entire time, and indeed
14:46
the local commanders were yelling the same
14:48
thing, if only to avoid
14:51
being shot. But, and
14:53
this would remain the truth for the next few weeks,
14:56
there was little effective communication, little
14:58
to no air support, a lack of supplies,
15:01
little command and control, and certainly
15:04
even less combined armed attacks,
15:07
that is, the Army, artillery,
15:09
armor, and planes working together
15:12
for maximum effectiveness on
15:14
the Soviet front. This would
15:16
be worked out over time, until
15:19
then the Russians came at the
15:21
Germans in peace mail and
15:24
bled for it. Not
15:26
that there weren't moments of, let's
15:28
say, concern for the German
15:30
High Command. We've already seen
15:33
that von Lieb of Army Group North
15:35
stumbled a few times before his
15:38
infantry and armor units could be lined
15:40
up together for mutual support. Now,
15:44
it was von Bock's turn. On
15:47
the first day of the war, Dmitry Pavlov's
15:49
deputy, General I.V. Boldin,
15:52
was sent closer to the front as Pavlov
15:54
needed someone he could trust to
15:57
take the initiative. Besides, as
15:59
communications were spotty at best,
16:02
it was best to have his man on
16:04
the ground, on the scene, as
16:06
it were. And Bolden, from
16:09
a peasant beginning, had done well
16:11
for himself, because he took the initiative and
16:13
he stayed loyal to the party. He
16:16
would attempt to prove himself here,
16:19
once again. General Hermann
16:21
Hoth's Third Panzer Group consisted
16:23
of four panzer divisions and four
16:26
infantry divisions, and they were making
16:28
good progress to the north of Bielishtok.
16:31
In fact, he and his were moving
16:33
so fast that soon Hoth's
16:35
men could threaten Minsk
16:38
further to the east from the north.
16:41
And if Guderian, the southern version
16:43
of Hoth, within Armoured Group Center's
16:46
area of responsibility, could do the same, then
16:49
it was clear that Minsk would soon
16:51
fall and the way to Smolensk would
16:53
be open. But first things first.
16:57
Pavlov had told Bolden to go
16:59
to the forward area, take command, and
17:01
push the enemy back, if possible.
17:04
Bolden jumped into a very vulnerable
17:07
small aircraft and flew west,
17:09
landing within the Bielishtok
17:12
encirclement. Soon he was in
17:14
charge of the 6th mechanized, 11th
17:17
mechanized, and 6th cavalry corps. This
17:20
shock group of Boldens had just
17:22
over 1,000 tanks in its midst,
17:25
and at least half of them were KVs
17:28
and T-34s. The
17:30
idea was for him to swing in a counterclockwise
17:33
motion to reach and liberate
17:35
Grodno, located about 40 miles
17:38
or 64 kilometers northeast
17:40
of Bielishtok, with the ultimate goal
17:43
being Augustavo, located
17:45
in the northeast corner of what once was
17:48
Poland. If he could
17:50
achieve this, not only would the encirclement
17:52
be pierced, it would send shockwaves
17:55
through both Army Groups north and
17:57
center. And things had started to change.
18:20
And
20:00
in war, there is only one punishment
20:03
for this. They were all executed
20:06
by the NKVD, that
20:08
is, the People's Kamazariat for Internal
20:10
Affairs, basically Stalin's
20:13
personal police force. Meanwhile,
20:17
in the south of Army Group Center's
20:19
area of responsibility, General
20:21
Guderian and his panzers were equally
20:24
moving apace. The Soviet
20:26
22nd Tank Division had been trying
20:29
to stop Guderian's panzers but
20:31
were whittled down in the process, in
20:34
very short order. Guderian
20:36
was a whiz in fighting with his panzers,
20:39
but he also had an ego, and he did
20:41
not like to hear the word, no. We've
20:45
already seen Bolden's attempt with his shock
20:48
group, but it also hoped that if
20:50
he did break out, it might cause Guderian
20:53
to stop as well, as having
20:55
an enemy operate in your rear could
20:57
cut off supplies and reinforcements.
21:00
But this did not happen. Still,
21:03
there was a massive pocket of Soviet
21:05
armies trapped just east of
21:08
Bialystok. Again, Hitler
21:10
wanted to wait until that was destroyed, but
21:13
the generals under him did not.
21:16
Thus, the fake reconnaissance in force
21:18
orders were issued. In time,
21:21
this pocket of resistance would be
21:23
reduced, but waiting in Army
21:25
Group Center's near future was
21:27
another, even larger pocket,
21:30
just west of Minsk. Either
21:33
way, Army Group Center was making
21:35
good headway deeper into Soviet
21:38
territory, and soon, as we have
21:40
seen, they would have most of the armor
21:42
from Army Group North join them. As
21:45
Hitler changes his mind concerning
21:48
what Bock's main target
21:51
should be. episode
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