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Hello, and thank you for
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listening to the History of World
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War II podcast, episode 448, When
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an Unstoppable Force Meets an
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Immovable Object. Last
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time, the War for Smolensk was just
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about over. Indeed, Army Group
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Centres Commander von Bock had
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declared it so on August 5th. However,
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there were many moving parts in play that
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would affect the next few months and thus
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end up being the
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beginning of the end of
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Operation Barbarossa, though it
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would take a few years to play itself
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out. First, Hitler
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was determined to take panzers away
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from von Bock and send them
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towards Kiev and Leningrad to wrap
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up those contests there, and
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though Guderian and Hoth were not
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keen on this, they mostly let
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it go as they firmly believed
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that Stalin could not still have
1:03
adequate forces in between them and
1:05
Moscow. Thus, the Soviet capital
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would fall to infantry and
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artillery alone. Next was
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a coming clash as both sides
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made plans for the Yelnya salient,
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that is, a bit of German-controlled
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territory that stuck out further than
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the rest of the front. Hitler
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had told von Bock that he
1:25
could launch limited raids from this
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bulge, while Stalin, on August 1st,
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ordered Zhukov to destroy that
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same bulge. It was as
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close to a counterattack as Stalin was going
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to get for now. But
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of course, the Soviets did not
1:41
know that Hitler had also ordered
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that ten divisions be used to
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defend the salient, their closest
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point to the Russian capital. But
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as we have seen, as the Battle of Smolensk
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was coming to an end, the
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Nazi High Command could not agree
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on the next major objective. Should...
2:00
the three army groups, but certainly the
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center one, give up on advancing and
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focus on destroying all enemy troops in
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front of them. Or should
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the advance on Moscow continue to
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cut off the head of the
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chicken, or in this case the
2:15
Russian bear, which should bring about
2:17
numerous advantages for the attackers. Yet
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as we have seen Hitler won
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the browbeating contest before August was
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over. Moscow would be
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abandoned. For now, the panzers would
2:29
flow north and south away from
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army group center, and the goal
2:33
now was to destroy the enemy
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formations in front of them, if
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only to give von Bock's men
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in the salient a rest as
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they were being hammered by the
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Soviets. And a glimpse
2:45
of how to carry this out was given
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to the Germans back on July 13th. With
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them capturing so many Soviet armies,
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on that day they learned that
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Stalin had ordered Timoshenko, the Western
2:57
Front commander, to attack the
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German forces which had just taken Smolensk,
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and who were now trying to enclose
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the Soviet troops in the area. But
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here, Timoshenko was going to do to the
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Germans what they had been doing to
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the Russians since June 22nd, 1941. Going
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back a bit, just as the battle
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of Smolensk was getting underway, per
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Zhukov's orders, Tim oshenko was
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to use four armies to
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surround the Germans themselves trying
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to surround Smolensk. As
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this was Eastern Europe slash Western Asia,
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there was always going to be enough
3:35
space to line up
3:37
your men further afield. However,
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Timoshenko was to also put aside the
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16th, 19th, and
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20th armies for any emergency that
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arose. Plus, he was
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to create five attack armies.
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These were to be commanded
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by NKVD generals and
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Major General K.K. Roszkowski's
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force. Such was... the
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personnel resources of Soviet
4:02
Russia. As we have
4:04
seen, the attack around Smolensk was
4:07
going well for the Germans, but the
4:09
Soviet counterattack started in earnest on
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July 23rd, when NKVD
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Lieutenant General V.I. Kachelov
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and his 28th Army
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moved out to retake the town
4:21
of Popechep, located about 35 miles
4:24
or 56 kilometers southwest
4:26
of Yelnya. But
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in order for this staggering amount of
4:30
troop movements to make any sense, certainly
4:32
on this massive scale, if
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one was to draw half of a clock
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face to the east of Smolensk, to
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where the Germans would be standing after this
4:41
battle should all the area be taken, Popechep
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is at the five o'clock position. With
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Zhukov making sure this 28th Army,
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as well as the other ones,
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were larger than those of the
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previous counterattacks, which had all failed,
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Kachelov's men did well, at
4:59
first. Again, they started on
5:01
July 23rd, and by the 27th,
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Guderian was getting nervous. His
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job was to swing north to join
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up with Hoth's panzers and thus close
5:10
the circle. But now it
5:12
looked as if his 10th Panzer
5:14
Division and the SS Division, Großdeutschland,
5:17
might get cut off from
5:19
the other German units. This
5:21
was intolerable, so Guderian gathered his
5:24
forces for his own counter-counter
5:27
attack. Just
5:29
south of where the 28th Army had
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started their drive, and they were now
5:33
moving in a northwesterly direction, Guderian
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had his 14th Panzer Corps, made up
5:38
of the 3rd and 4th Panzer Divisions,
5:40
and 7th Army Corps, comprising the 197th,
5:42
23rd, and 78th Infantry Divisions, drive
5:48
east and head again to a
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point just south of where the
5:52
28th Army had started. This was
5:54
done by July 31st, and the
5:57
next day, Guderian had his 9th
5:59
Army Corps made up of
6:01
two infantry divisions, drive a
6:03
bit further south, thus creating
6:05
a partial circle around Kachelas'
6:07
28th Army. It would
6:09
take six more days, but this attack by the
6:11
28th Army would stall and
6:13
be mauled in its turn. As
6:16
for General Kachelas, he would
6:18
not go the way of a coward, and
6:20
he died in a tank, leading a charge.
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But the Germans' nightmares were
6:26
just beginning. Kachelas
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had moved out on July 23rd,
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but the next day, two other
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NKVD armies joined in. Major
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General V.A. Komenko's 30th Army,
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made up of three rifle
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divisions, a tank regiment, and
6:42
a fighter regiment, started their
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drive due north of Yelnya,
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so at the two o'clock
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position. And just
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below this 30th Army was
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Major General S.A. Kalinin's 24th
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Army of four rifle divisions
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and one tank battalion. The
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idea was for Komenko's 30th Army
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to get the attention of the
7:03
Germans, which would, hopefully, allow
7:06
Kalinin's men to penetrate further
7:08
and faster into enemy territory.
7:11
Starting at the three o'clock position, if
7:14
Kalinin's men could make progress, they
7:16
would then be free to turn
7:18
north and surround the German troops
7:20
fighting Komenko's men, or they
7:23
could turn south and get in
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behind the battlefront, just east of
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Smolensk. That would cause tons
7:30
of headaches for von Bach. Unfortunately
7:32
for Komenko and Kalinin, Fliegerkorps
7:35
VIII had yet to depart to
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help Army Group North, so they
7:39
were able to fly over the
7:41
Russians, mostly unopposed, and maul their
7:44
mainly infantry attacks. Thus,
7:46
much would not come from
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this most hoped-for counterattack. It
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would be the same for the other,
7:53
though unofficial, attacking formation, made
7:55
up of Colonel General Gordo
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Vikhov's cavalry group, itself three-year.
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cavalry groups and one rifle division.
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About 100 miles southwest of
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Smolensk, this cavalry group started
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out well enough, given Guderian
8:09
a headache as this force
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was in his rear, cutting
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across his supply route. But
8:16
as this was trying to achieve something so
8:18
far in the German rear, other
8:20
German units made short work of
8:22
the cavalry. It was the
8:24
same for another attack far to the
8:26
north at the 12 o'clock position. This
8:30
was a lot of failure, but before
8:32
Stalin could truly go into panic mode
8:34
about the way to Moscow being open,
8:36
he learned that the one
8:39
non-NKVD army, that of Raskinkowski's,
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had done better. Coming
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in near the point between the
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2 and 3 o'clock, Raskinowski had
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the smallest of formations and it
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guarded the most important area, that
8:52
being the road to Moscow.
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Yet perhaps the non-NKVD officer wanted to
8:57
prove himself, or because he knew what
9:00
would happen to him if he failed,
9:03
if the Germans didn't get him first, this
9:05
man achieved the most while
9:08
not being successful. Rushing
9:11
forward with only two rifle
9:13
and four artillery regiments, not
9:15
divisions, these men engaged
9:17
the Germans. Then the general
9:19
got a lucky break as he came upon some
9:21
stragglers of the 38th Rifle Division
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who had been beaten further west.
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Also the general found 90 tanks
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without a leader. He
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gave them a leader himself and
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a cause to join him in stopping
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the enemy from reaching Moscow. Whether
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Raskinowski was surprised the Germans were
9:41
rushing at him is unknown, but
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not only did his men stop
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the German advance, soon they turned
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the enemy around. This
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was something that the 7th Panzer
9:52
nor the 20th Motorized Divisions were
9:55
used to. Neither was
9:57
von Bock who sent the 17th Panzer
9:59
to a of
12:00
the situation in the last few days, the
12:02
appearance of strong enemy forces on the front
12:05
and to the flanks of Army Group Center,
12:07
the supply position, and the need to give
12:09
2nd and 3rd armored groups
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about 10 days to rehabilitate
12:14
their units makes it
12:16
necessary to postpone. For the moment,
12:18
the further tasks and objectives lay
12:20
down in Director No. 33 of
12:22
19th July. That
12:27
Army Group North would continue to attempt
12:29
to encircle Leningrad and meet up with
12:31
the Finnish Army. That Army
12:34
Group Center would go over to
12:36
the defensive, taking advantage of suitable
12:38
terrain. But that attacks
12:40
with limited objectives may be
12:42
still mounted there. That
12:45
operations on the Southeastern Front
12:47
will, for the present, be
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conducted only by formations of
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Army Group South. That
12:53
the Air Force will switch the main
12:55
weight of air attacks to the Northeastern
12:57
Front. These reinforcements will be
12:59
moved up in time to go into
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action at the beginning of the offensive
13:04
by Army Group North and
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at its vital point, which was early
13:08
morning, August 6th. Besides
13:10
his fear of going the way
13:12
of Napoleon, Hitler could see for
13:14
himself that Army Groups North and
13:16
South had been unable to duplicate
13:19
Center's success of surrounding and
13:21
destroying large groups of enemy troops.
13:24
This left von Bock's flanks open
13:26
to attack. Hence, it
13:28
didn't make sense to go further with
13:30
his panzers until at least the South
13:33
could be locked down and the battle
13:35
line pushed further closer
13:37
to Moscow. And
13:40
yet, the generals around
13:42
Hitler still hemmed and hawn as
13:44
they did not agree with their
13:46
leaders' plans. After all,
13:48
Bock's League was to cut through
13:50
an enemy's forces, reach the capital
13:52
or whatever important point, and
13:55
end the hostilities quickly. Now,
13:57
here was Hitler thinking in more traditional
14:00
traditional ways of fighting, and the
14:02
German army simply did not have
14:04
the manpower, resources, nor supplies for
14:07
such an endeavor. Thus,
14:09
the grumbling continued. To
14:12
wit, Hitler issued his own declaration,
14:14
as if he needed to explain
14:17
himself. But apparently, he
14:19
did. On August 21st,
14:21
he sent out to all the
14:23
commands the principal object that must
14:25
yet be achieved before the onset
14:27
of winter is not the capture
14:30
of Moscow, but rather in the
14:32
south, the occupation of the Crimea
14:34
and the industrial and coal regions
14:36
of the Donets. This
14:38
was his attempt to answer his
14:41
staff's question, which was namely, we
14:44
only have enough time and
14:46
resources for one big push.
14:49
Where should it be? Per Hitler,
14:51
it would be in the south. But
14:54
he still approved offensive actions
14:56
for Guderian and Hoth. Hitler
14:59
was making a declaration and
15:01
then breaking it. Which one can
15:03
do if one is the
15:05
warlord in question? Either
15:08
way, Guderian and Hoth were ready to
15:10
go. Back on July 20th,
15:12
46 Panzer Corps under
15:14
General Heinrich von Wittenhof had seized
15:16
a Yellnea bridgehead over the Dessna
15:19
River and strengthened it. By now,
15:21
the Panzer Corps as well as
15:23
the others were used to this
15:26
and expected, as always, to start
15:28
moving again in a few days.
15:31
After all, that's how it went. There
15:33
would be a battle for a bridgehead, the
15:35
Germans would win, and then they would spend
15:38
the next few days bringing more men across,
15:40
adding on other pontoon bridges, and
15:42
cleaning up any enemy activity
15:44
behind them, and then
15:46
move on. But times, they
15:49
were a-changin'. There would be
15:52
no big move in the next few days,
15:54
or even in the next few weeks, for
15:56
the Russians were
15:58
coming. Experians like
16:00
the other generals, like Nazi military
16:03
philosophy, focused on the offensive,
16:06
but defense wasn't ignored,
16:08
just de-emphasized. And up
16:10
till now, it hadn't been needed all that much. Again,
16:14
that was about to change. Parts
16:17
of the 10th Panzer Division and the
16:19
SS Reich Division were currently holding Jäunier,
16:22
but before there could be another dash,
16:24
albeit slower, as many panzers had been
16:26
moved to the north or south, Temoshenko
16:30
started in with his attacks.
16:32
And the plural tense here hardly
16:35
does it justice. Temoshenko
16:38
was told by Zhukov, who was
16:40
ordered by Stalin, to have Soviet
16:42
troops trapped in the Smolensk pocket,
16:45
freed by September 8th. So
16:47
for the next two weeks, Russian troops
16:49
came at the town Yelnya at
16:52
least 12 times each
16:54
and every day. The Germans
16:56
now thoroughly subsumed with defensive
16:58
gestures, one each time, but
17:01
each time afterward, they had
17:03
less ammunition. They had less
17:05
fuel and fewer men. The
17:08
good news for the Germans was that
17:10
as the Smolensk pocket was hard upon,
17:13
as it was being ruthlessly reduced, more
17:15
and more German infantry were being freed
17:18
up to help rush to Yelnya to
17:20
keep the city in German hands. And
17:23
those men would be needed, as
17:26
it was about to get worse, because,
17:28
well, it can always get
17:31
worse. By
17:34
mid-August, most of von Bock's panzers
17:36
were heading either for Leningrad or
17:38
Kiev, which forced the 9th
17:40
and 4th armies to now defend the
17:42
area. Following the
17:45
departing panzers, most of Kesselring's two
17:47
Flieger corps went with them. And
17:50
as this was the farthest east
17:52
the Germans had penetrated, they were
17:54
just beyond their own supply line,
17:57
Which was the exact opposite for the Russians.
18:00
With each retreat, Their. Supply
18:02
lines shrink. And.
18:04
Then it happened. The. Blitzkrieg for
18:07
now. Was. At an end. Focusing.
18:10
On defense to allow the loaned
18:12
Panzer to do their jobs in
18:14
the north and south, the Germans
18:16
gave up the initiative and Timoshenko.
18:19
Caught. It. Before. Could even
18:21
hit the ground. By
18:23
August eleventh, Timoshenko was city
18:25
von box along his entire
18:28
front. The. River Va up
18:30
north of Ya Nia was caused
18:32
by the Soviet Nineteenth Army,
18:34
which was supported by the one
18:37
hundred and first tank divisions and
18:39
forty third mixed aviation division.
18:41
Together, they were able to penetrate
18:44
six miles into German held territory
18:46
before being held up themselves
18:48
by Russian exhaustion and German determination.
18:50
Meanwhile, as Timoshenko harried the Germans
18:53
north of the only Us
18:55
zoo costs now and command of
18:57
the Reserve Front. Focused on
19:00
the town itself which allow the
19:02
Soviet fiftieth and Fifty Third cavalry
19:04
divisions to get into the German
19:07
rear to caused all kinds of
19:09
hell. And. Very few German
19:11
soldiers during this time along the
19:13
front were spared from this hell
19:16
for the next two weeks, German
19:18
soldiers could not remember a time
19:20
when they were not been bombed
19:22
or strafed for watching enemy parachutists
19:25
come down behind them for fighting
19:27
off maddening attacks or surviving hours
19:29
long artillery bombardment and as he
19:31
only us was to have been
19:34
a temporary stop only before Hitler
19:36
one against his generals. It.
19:38
Was not suited for defense. Whatever
19:40
the Germans did to hold the
19:43
Soviets had base. They. Would have
19:45
to do on their own. Yet
19:48
this tale of woe was about to come
19:50
to an end and not a happy one.
19:52
For. the germans on august
19:54
thirtieth following a three hour
19:57
artillery barrage and remember the
19:59
soviets more pieces than did the
20:01
Germans, Soviet forces charged
20:03
forward and pushed back the German
20:05
23rd Infantry Division some
20:08
six miles, which was bad
20:10
enough. But the number of German men
20:13
and equipment being lost in each process
20:15
was too much. This was not
20:18
sustainable. So on September 2nd, von
20:21
Braudlich, Halder, and von Bock
20:23
all agreed, Yelnya
20:26
was to be abandoned. The
20:28
9th and 20th German Army Corps pulled
20:30
back on September 5th, which allowed the
20:32
Soviet 100th, 103rd, 309th, and
20:37
120th Rifle Divisions to
20:39
re-enter Yelnya. Stalin,
20:41
for once, got his
20:44
way. As for the loaned
20:46
panzers that went north and south, in
20:49
early September, Army Group North,
20:51
now reinforced, reached the
20:53
suburbs of Leningrad and cut the
20:55
city from any and all land
20:57
communications. And to the
20:59
south, the soon to be over Battle
21:02
of Kiev was not only another German
21:04
victory, but the largest
21:06
one to date, with two-thirds of
21:08
a million troops being trapped in
21:10
this Kessel or pocket. And
21:13
this Kessel was the size of Belgium.
21:16
To Guderian and Hoth, this looked
21:18
like Hitler was clearing the flanks
21:20
of Army Group Center so they
21:23
could continue to push towards Moscow.
21:25
And it seemed they were right. On
21:28
September 6th, with the Battle of
21:30
Kiev ending in another 20 days,
21:32
and that seemed a foregone conclusion,
21:34
Hitler issued Directive No. 35,
21:37
which stated in part, the
21:40
flanking Army Groups have
21:42
created the prerequisites for
21:44
conducting a decisive operation
21:46
against Army Group Temoshenko.
21:48
And Hitler wanted this done ASAP, so
21:51
that we can go on the offensive
21:53
in the general direction of the asthma
21:56
and destroy the enemy in the region
21:58
east of Smolensk level envelopment.
22:01
After destroying the main mass
22:03
of Timoshenko's group of forces
22:06
in decisive encirclement operations, Army
22:08
Group Center will begin pursuing enemy
22:11
forces along the Moscow Axis. With
22:14
this, von Bock was only too
22:16
happy to realize that Guderian and
22:18
his panzers would be returning just
22:21
as soon as Kiev was beaten down,
22:24
and from the north he would
22:26
also receive the return of Colonel
22:28
General Hoppner's 4th Panzer Group. But
22:31
not only was Army Group Center to destroy the
22:33
forces in front of them, they
22:35
were to make sure that nothing
22:37
of significance made it back
22:40
to Moscow, thus leaving it relatively
22:43
undefended. Time
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but that's what it said on
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Google, so I'm going with it. And
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lastly, I would like to make a special
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mention. of Eli Vanderley, who
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is from Eaton Rapids, Michigan. He sent me
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a very nice email. Thank you very much,
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Eli. And I hope everybody has
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a wonderful Christmas, even if you don't deserve
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it. I certainly don't. And
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a happy new year and spend time with your friends
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and family, because at the end
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