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A Mere 20 Years in Prison, Says Biden DOJ: Mark Smith joins the show | 4.16.24 - The Howie Carr Show Hour 3

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A Mere 20 Years in Prison, Says Biden DOJ: Mark Smith joins the show | 4.16.24 - The Howie Carr Show Hour 3

A Mere 20 Years in Prison, Says Biden DOJ: Mark Smith joins the show | 4.16.24 - The Howie Carr Show Hour 3

A Mere 20 Years in Prison, Says Biden DOJ: Mark Smith joins the show | 4.16.24 - The Howie Carr Show Hour 3

A Mere 20 Years in Prison, Says Biden DOJ: Mark Smith joins the show | 4.16.24 - The Howie Carr Show Hour 3

Tuesday, 16th April 2024
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made it rhyme for sure. saying

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Trump fell asleep at his

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trial today is as believable as

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same Biden held an impromptu

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thirty min oppressors and was absolutely

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articulate, lucid, and profound. Yeah,

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from falling asleep in the middle

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of the press conference or. Ah,

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I hadn't given us a. Nice

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soon as. A

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New York burning flags and chanting

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Death to America Wait! I thought

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by his campaign rally was gonna

5:20

be in Pennsylvania today. The

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I heard Grace commenting on is the

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person who is burning the flag and.

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In New York. Probably

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great points and.ill in a

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That we can last for a tests.

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Unfortunately, a lot of this

7:44

news isn't really funny. it's

7:46

it's actually. Infuriate,

7:48

infuriating, but. I.

7:51

Think that. Good. Will prevail.

7:53

I think that's a lot of

7:56

the people who. Are.

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Seeking. The disk. Section of America

8:01

and now overtly saying it, chanting Death

8:03

To America One and burn a flag

8:05

on. Are going to prevail.

8:07

I don't believe they will on.

8:10

I am very optimistic and.i've always

8:12

been an optimistic person so I

8:14

think that's gonna continue. Butts An

8:16

interesting news that came up. Our

8:19

Grace actually handed this to

8:21

me and it's. The

8:24

court is set to hear arguments

8:26

over the release of the. Covenant.

8:28

Shooters Manifesto. Ah, so this already

8:31

been some stuff it's leaked through.

8:33

I know some the sheriff's they're

8:35

are than that leaked it out

8:37

and whatnot. but it's it's. amazing

8:39

to me that there's a court.

8:43

The. It even as to be in court like. That.

8:46

Should be released before the name

8:48

of the shooter and the picture,

8:50

the shooter and what. Gender.

8:53

The shooter is and everything else. I

8:55

think all that should just not be

8:57

glorified like I won't say the name,

8:59

but. The. Fact that

9:01

they left the manifesto I think is

9:03

very telling and you see into the

9:05

mindset of this shooter and the fact

9:07

that we gotta. Have

9:09

a court battle over it. To get

9:12

it released is ridiculous, says Nashville Tennessee

9:14

court Set a year long awaited arguments

9:16

over whether or not to release documents

9:18

that belonged to the transgender identifying shooter

9:21

who murdered six people at the Covenant

9:23

School, which have been kept field from

9:25

the public from more than a year.

9:27

Included is not only the Shooters Manifesto,

9:30

but also fourteen different home videos, twenty

9:32

journalists, a suicide note in a psych

9:34

folder with medical information about the shooter,

9:37

and the three folders of information on

9:39

school shootings. And Firearms courses, as well

9:41

as a memoir and notes written by the

9:43

shooter. Us. On the

9:45

other side is a group of families

9:47

from the Covenant School that filed a

9:49

motion to block the release of the

9:51

documents, arguing that the release can further

9:54

traumatized. those were personally affected by a

9:56

shooting on yeah you know that is

9:58

sad and at that they are. The

10:00

continue to go through that trauma. It's every

10:02

time this is brought up arms. I do

10:04

believe that it's important to have to release

10:06

that kind of stuff. And let's put it

10:09

this way. if it was. Some

10:11

trump all over something like that. He.

10:15

Did it would be front page

10:17

news. It would be on every

10:19

channel throughout the throughout the country.

10:21

So am I promised to a

10:23

top tier under five o'clock hour.

10:26

We got. A

10:28

guest at the bottom of the hour. Mark Smith

10:30

from the Four Boxes Diner and let's go to

10:32

Go on the phone real quick before the break.

10:35

Evidence or it's good advice

10:37

employer. Oh. Yeah.

10:40

I come across Order Okay got

10:42

a rap sheet a volley jarvis.

10:47

And I'm sensitive. Comes into

10:49

the United States, nobody knows

10:51

you. tear. Now he's

10:53

looking for money. Is.

10:55

Order for anything anything. Are you already have any

10:57

kind of money? or what? Now.

11:00

He doesn't know that you're carrying. Out

11:03

if it makes a launched

11:05

you that's considered. As.

11:08

Consider the rights of move on

11:10

is that. But. You're

11:13

shooting. Now. As I considered

11:15

a legitimate killing or as a

11:17

concerted A O L Books because

11:19

it's not just here. I

11:24

don't know who. Does.

11:27

Does know like Lankan answer for

11:29

every scenario Joe like you can't

11:31

say oh just as he's an

11:33

illegal aliens because frankly. This.

11:36

Is something that will come to

11:38

fruition some day. and it's already

11:40

happened with one courts that. Our

11:43

constitution acknowledges that these rights

11:45

are endowed by our creator.

11:48

So our rights. Are.

11:50

Human Rights. They're not specific

11:52

to America. all the were

11:54

the only country that celebrates

11:56

them and so that person.

12:00

Name and I lost a one is

12:02

you said he made it. Makes a

12:04

defensive maneuver as long lunches that you're in

12:07

issued and I think that's an offensive

12:09

maneuver. But if he's coming here to

12:11

kill me, I don't care if he's

12:13

ah, from this country or from another country

12:15

if he's a citizen or non non

12:17

citizens. Did you know you're gonna. You're.

12:20

Gonna have to answer for your actions?

12:22

Let's put it that way. And

12:25

I think that's universal. No.

12:28

Matter what the cases are.

12:31

Some. At in on not going

12:33

to make a blanket statement to a

12:36

hypothetical scenario but some of here and

12:38

tried to kill me whether or not

12:40

or illegal or not you gotta do

12:42

it you gonna do rights and some

12:44

that's really the answer is a cure

12:46

your in the right no matter what

12:48

you do in in the Protection of

12:50

Life and others are it will be

12:52

right back you listening to how he

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car show until be wary. Go.

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Go with. Our.

13:20

Welcome back to the how each ourselves

13:23

in it's time for the poll Question

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So. Far what should happen

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to protesters that shut down

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bridges and airports? Nothing seem

13:56

as jian Sixers people should

13:59

be allowed. Remove them. They

14:01

should be charged with felony. Or.

14:03

They should be held financially responsible for

14:06

a call or damage caused. I'm

14:09

going to say we should be able that dragged amount

14:11

of the way. Nine percent

14:13

agree with you. Twelve.

14:16

Percent say he should be held financially

14:18

responsible for damage caused, thirty six percent

14:20

say they should be charged with felony

14:22

and forty three percent say same as

14:25

G and sixers and. I

14:27

guess my heart is in that place, but

14:29

I also want the convenience of solving the

14:31

problem. Me: I mean, I'd be in our

14:33

favor of just eve home when I'm off

14:36

to the side of the road. You

14:39

know, that was the other thing like I

14:41

get it on the Golden Gate Bridge, that's

14:43

a little much to possible that the rail

14:45

rights. Know there's people that would say no it

14:47

isn't But. I. Believe that

14:49

that that isn't too much. However, when

14:51

you look at a lot of the

14:53

other places that they were jam and

14:55

up like of. Road.

14:59

At the airport. Track of my throat.

15:01

Anyway, let's go to the phone strain sneak in

15:03

a few calls here. Bob your next on the

15:05

how he car so. I.

15:08

Told me you know me as Echo Man or

15:10

well hey, how's it going? To

15:13

bed lobbyist or. I

15:16

have a question about open carry A

15:18

Made fun of it. Is it About

15:20

it? Is it gets law to conceal

15:22

carry it made without a Ltc Know

15:24

it is not. You are a constant.

15:27

It is a constitutional carry state. In

15:29

mean New Hampshire and Vermont there's a

15:31

bunch of mean legislation and mean that

15:33

just passed in the senate's i didn't

15:35

even get to that yet in the

15:37

status of might get to it in

15:39

the six o'clock hour on as a

15:42

right now they. Are a constitutional? carry

15:44

A So you can carry open or

15:46

conceal. Okay,

15:48

it you want me to give you an echo for

15:50

the listeners? Go for it. Quickly

15:52

sites may I add other your

15:55

your attention A church up lately.

15:57

it's a ago body or I

15:59

think. Bob I appreciate it's three have time

16:01

for one more note or days your next on

16:03

the how he car so go ahead this. I'll

16:07

keep it clear to pigs. First of

16:09

all that the how each case at

16:12

the As.of it already Just say have

16:14

the word doubt attributed your by holders

16:16

head nurse hands you know your name

16:18

That Sanders played chess a great idea.

16:22

Fake and ah. But the other thing

16:24

is that what? Do you never see the

16:26

city at the very. Top of that

16:28

he budget appeared news. This list

16:31

even already wise is a loaded

16:33

firearm and ammunition or you'll never

16:35

find that on a given the

16:38

publication whatsoever. The we know that

16:40

as very first thing that you

16:42

should have digital protect with your

16:44

gut and in real desperation it'll

16:47

get what you need. yeah I

16:49

would. I would agree that the

16:51

the gun is very efficient to

16:54

ah so that no thanks to

16:56

the call this. However, I will

16:58

say that mindset. Trump's.

17:02

Of the tool. So in other words

17:04

on you know as you look at

17:07

what happened in Australia there were people

17:09

who actually ran and that more towards

17:11

that guy with the nice on so

17:14

they were putting their safety second for

17:16

the greater good of trying to stop

17:18

this threats and ultimately it was the

17:21

to have a gun that stop a

17:23

threat. Five I agree with you the

17:25

efficiency of that's the best choice of

17:28

a device or it will be right

17:30

back. This is the how he. First.

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Will not use brothers diseases.

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Welcome. Back to the how he car

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so until be weary sitting in for

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so hopefully you've enjoyed the show.

18:07

I eat for four or five

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hundred Forty two forty two is

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the number and ah as promised

18:13

I really happy to have joining

18:16

us on the line. Professor Mark

18:18

Smith he's a constitutional attorney does

18:20

a lot of videos in the

18:22

to a space with the. You.

18:24

Tube channel and on X he is that

18:27

the name of it is. Or. Boxes

18:29

diner of had. I'm on my

18:31

show a few times on Rapid

18:33

Fire and Ab. I like how

18:35

he explains a lot around the

18:38

Second Amendment space, but he's also

18:40

not a one trick pony. Are

18:42

you Mark? Number? Thanks for joining

18:44

us Mark How you doing today.

18:47

A Toby Thanks for out of me on an

18:50

exciting day and a world of the Supreme Court.

18:52

It's not a good day for the left. I

18:54

tell you that up the Sports or Arcana Trump

18:56

case? Yes, no kidding. Why don't you are? bring

18:58

us up to speed on that. What's your breakdown?

19:01

What's your feeling on what is gonna happen on

19:03

that. Will.

19:05

This is quite important and is having

19:07

on quite the coverage it should, but

19:10

it will when the decision of this

19:12

year. So what of a critical pieces

19:14

of leverage? The Jack Smith, the Special

19:16

Prosecutor and the Biden Department of Justice

19:19

have been deployed against both President Trump

19:21

kinda Dc obstruction case or has been

19:23

indicted and against our whole host of.

19:26

January. Six protesters in fact over three

19:28

hundred and is they have brought in. This

19:30

is the by the Department of Justice has

19:32

tried to deploy. A financial

19:35

slot Statute. It

19:37

claim that delay in the

19:39

town of the electoral votes.

19:42

In. Washington in Congress on January

19:44

Six constitute a cool, A corrupt,

19:46

a corrupt Obstruction of Justice which

19:48

is a consequence. If you're convicted

19:50

of the statue Toby, Guess what?

19:52

You get to go to prison

19:55

for a mere twenty years. Nuts

19:57

off. So this is a very

19:59

status. Very very scary factor

20:01

to be convicted under and this has

20:03

been a big piece. A leverage said

20:05

Jack Smith, the prosecutor against Trump and

20:08

a bind Department of Justice as have

20:10

been using and as the O J

20:12

cases against their January Six processors. But

20:14

today the Supreme court heard argument as

20:17

to whether of this critical statute the

20:19

deal Jays been using is even a

20:21

clickable here. And it's pretty clear there's

20:23

at least six justices the think that

20:25

the Department of Justice as out the

20:28

launch, The think a financial fraud. Statute

20:30

that arose from the Enron accounting scandals

20:32

could somehow be used against political protesters

20:34

on James's or President Trump and this

20:36

is clearly going to be a sit

20:38

for three if not more victory against

20:40

the Department of Justice in this article

20:42

by a lotta leveraged from the by

20:44

the demonstration as they go after the

20:46

January Six people and President Trump has.

20:48

this is the one statute that of

20:50

Trump's convicted or he could go to

20:52

jail for little years and years of

20:54

a once you knocked us out those

20:56

the jackson of cases look a lot

20:58

less scary done in. What does that

21:00

look like in reality like is far

21:03

as been charged with that his own

21:05

likes Pizza G, Six is for example

21:07

ins or the substance in what does

21:09

that look like a the fact that

21:11

they were hoping for. Business.

21:14

From conduct being conducted from a regular would

21:17

or a business being conducted in the capital

21:19

is at the way that works. That's.

21:22

Right Toby The way it works as

21:24

a federal statute says that if you.

21:27

Abstract. A legal

21:29

proceeding by destroying documents or tampering

21:31

with witnesses? Then you're violating the

21:33

statute and you go to prison.

21:36

Now the had our statute is

21:38

about fourteen feet or Detroit people

21:40

from engaging and shenanigans in criminal

21:43

cases, grand jury proceedings and civil

21:45

matters And or is this is

21:47

about court misbehavior. What's happened is

21:49

that this is a very interesting

21:52

game the Department of Justice and

21:54

Buying try to place is end

21:56

of at the end of the

21:58

statue. Toby's there's. Rapper Thera

22:00

that says or otherwise obstruct an

22:02

official proceeded to was the O

22:04

J says well this very vague

22:07

language this is obstructed an official

22:09

proceedings. The January Six protesters delayed

22:11

the count of the electoral votes

22:13

are generally sit that constitutes in

22:15

our view and obstruction of an

22:17

official proceedings and now they get

22:19

to go to jail for twenty

22:21

years. But as Justice Roberts point

22:23

now today, that's not how you

22:25

we the search because you don't

22:27

just grab for that afford. Words

22:30

at the end of the statutes and say

22:32

yeah that uprising It points out the that

22:34

isn't really about You know of this behavior

22:37

in the context of a court case. What

22:39

does this have to do with the lane?

22:41

A vote in Congress and then the other

22:43

judges await in the supreme court. Justice is

22:45

also wait until we it's kind of is

22:48

indicated is look. Isn't. Quite interesting

22:50

that you're all sorts of people have been

22:52

dragged out of the legislative chambers protesting this

22:54

or that. And can you put all these

22:56

people in prison for twenty years? I me

22:59

to think about a for a second all

23:01

those people that were protesting and screaming and

23:03

getting dragged out of the chamber's when for

23:05

example Brett Kavanaugh was confirmed of Us Supreme

23:08

Court. Are you gonna put them in prison?

23:10

Is that what hypothetical the came up Toby

23:12

Up It's quite interesting is that somebody even

23:14

raise the question of could a lobbyist to

23:17

try to prevent a statue from getting an

23:19

acid. Could he potentially be viewed as

23:21

obstructing unofficial proceeding even if you do

23:23

it legally under the first another? He

23:26

could still in theory be charged. So

23:28

Greeley the Supreme Court is clearly look

23:30

at Department of Justice Now you can.

23:32

You can read the tea leaves and

23:34

are going to sell all this down.

23:36

which is really quite something because if

23:38

you take away the statute from a

23:41

prosecutors in the January Six cases and

23:43

against President Trump are you really have

23:45

made the deal. J cases are dwindled

23:47

to not very much done in. There's

23:49

also an element of selective prosecution with

23:52

this regard. Like you just said are,

23:54

they obviously want to be able to

23:56

prosecute the G Sixers and Trump to

23:58

the fullest extent that. They feel that

24:00

they can but yet you also have

24:03

you know we saw in Nashville when

24:05

they it was inundated with people who

24:07

wanted gun control past and they like

24:09

squad i don't know, holsters, official proceedings

24:11

then you have or even people yesterday

24:13

at that Trump hearing in New York

24:16

City that were protesting that Palestinians and

24:18

Israel and whatever and it's you know

24:20

you never going to see any of

24:22

them charged with the same type of.

24:25

Obstruction. Of an official proceeding

24:27

so are you know does the

24:30

selective enforcement of that way into

24:32

this? Obviously the Supreme court is

24:34

ultimates word on it. but what

24:36

about just as a defensive some

24:38

type of. Defense.

24:41

Could. The defense used the selective prosecution

24:43

of this as part of their legal

24:45

defense. Just.

24:48

Help you. I think you raise an

24:50

excellent point and I think maybe you

24:52

need to go back and become a

24:54

lawyer right now because Justice Neil courses

24:56

a day Justice Neil course it during

24:58

the arguments literally ask the edges it's

25:00

funny cause you know what he was

25:02

referee really was it clearly what he

25:05

was are plenty of stealing council up

25:07

let me ask you get so much

25:09

as in the Us capitol and pulls

25:11

a fire alarm to delay of vote

25:13

donated to go to prison for twenty

25:15

years under the statute that we understand

25:17

what is. Referred to as about a month

25:19

or so ago, he democratic congressman of course

25:21

polled the fire alarm. Now as to why

25:23

he did it. you can have that debate,

25:25

but you know what deal Courses was very

25:27

sensitive to the city flight. It's just like

25:30

pointed out and of course oh wow, They're

25:32

gone after the Trump supporters on January sixth.

25:34

They're not going after others. It's like this

25:36

is a critical question. I think it was

25:38

asked by just i'm it's just a palm,

25:40

Athletic but just alito. Both kind of alluded

25:42

to that. Toby they said hey, Can

25:44

you give us another example where

25:46

this federal statute has been used

25:49

If any kind of case other

25:51

than someone that misbehave, destroy documents,

25:53

tampered with witness, get a civil

25:55

legal case or a criminal legal

25:57

case to give us any other.

26:00

After one on a prominent as

26:02

apply the statue. With a twenty year

26:04

prison term anybody else outside of again

26:06

court cases and the O J said

26:08

well no and they saw how you

26:10

apply to hear the default. January sixth

26:12

is really a special case. This is

26:14

never occurred before Now course that Ui

26:16

because there's been countless examples over the

26:18

years of people have misbehaving, got dragged

26:21

out of the senate chamber of the

26:23

house chamber for they were screaming. It

26:25

happens I don't with the all the

26:27

time but it's orange is what to

26:29

see protesters in the capital doing something

26:31

to get some arrested or drag. Out

26:33

and none of these people have been

26:35

charged on the Saturday, all the January

26:37

Six People and President Trump. But again

26:39

when you over point your hand sometimes

26:41

bad things happen to you and this

26:43

is going to be I pick another

26:45

terrible blow to the by the Department

26:47

of Justice to their political prosecutions, add

26:49

to their anti Trump efforts it's clearly

26:51

gonna have and it's pretty clear this

26:53

is what going to go down in

26:55

June when a supreme court issues the

26:57

ruling on this and it's really gonna

26:59

make all the prosecution's looks sketchy because

27:01

they really are sketchy. I

27:04

gotta tell you one thing that I

27:06

wake up and think about as we

27:08

live under this is my new administration

27:10

and Department of Justice is think of

27:13

the Republicans did the right thing under

27:15

the Obama administration, did not confirm her.

27:17

I mean us. Yeah, Merrick Garland to

27:20

the Supreme Court has he would not

27:22

be as I have with an impartial

27:24

Supreme Court justices you ask me. I

27:26

think it would be a. Would

27:29

be a much different court is if you

27:31

were there. Yeah.

27:34

I think that's right. I and you

27:36

know we have to get great credit

27:38

to track Grassley, who has the chairman

27:40

of the Senate Judiciary Committee at the

27:42

time and it's the carnival Senate majority

27:45

leader to come together and say we're

27:47

simply not going to confirm. Or.

27:49

Even hold hearings on merit going to the

27:51

Supreme court. We're gonna let the people to

27:54

fight or what they want. November of two

27:56

thousand and sixteen and happily the people decided

27:58

Donald Trump and the people. The athlete Toby

28:00

we covered the second to a to a court

28:03

people say why do you support Donald Trump and

28:05

why did he do it is a go to

28:07

the second a moment and many answer to that

28:09

but I think the most powerful answer give? Well

28:12

they're all sitting on the Supreme court. There's Brett

28:14

Kavanaugh, just as any Coney Barrett and Justice Neil

28:16

Course all of whom are in the majority in

28:18

Ny super versus ruined. And you don't have Merrick

28:21

Garland on the Supreme court's of you wanna know

28:23

why Donald Trump is good On the second another

28:25

among other things you just gotta named or three

28:27

names and refer to the fact that assault Merrick.

28:30

Garland Zola. I agree that made all

28:32

the difference in American law and American

28:34

society one hundred percent because of Miracle

28:36

and was on the Supreme Court and

28:38

has he replaced Justice Scalia. We'd have

28:40

a much different court and not a

28:43

court they respect the rule of law

28:45

and not accord to respect the constituted

28:47

and not a court that respect the

28:49

Second Amendment. We'd have a political party

28:51

in court that is nothing more than

28:53

a legislature dressing a black robe. Yeah,

28:56

well said nice things. You know as

28:58

we look at what's going on. In

29:00

the court system right now and

29:02

I think that this supreme court

29:04

those numbers the you just mentioned

29:06

plus the others in that make

29:08

up the majority of ruling of

29:10

say the brewing decisions has take

29:12

it very serious in I think

29:15

that they actually do the heavy

29:17

lifting of trying to get the

29:19

decisions right and they're not to

29:21

spare for their own political ambitions

29:23

or try to you know carry

29:25

the water for the political party

29:27

that even put them there in

29:29

the first. Place. I feel like

29:31

these really take up a really open

29:33

i'd approach to ruling on law Whatever

29:36

it is that have seen so far

29:38

and maybe I'm a little parents and

29:40

but I do. You get that impression

29:43

that they took take their job very

29:45

serious. Of

29:47

there's no doubt that Be Six

29:49

original list on the Supreme Court

29:52

take their job seriously and they

29:54

respect. This is the key. They

29:56

understand that when they swear an

29:58

oath that unites states constitution. Right?

30:01

You don't swear an oath to the

30:03

by Doing This Race or to the

30:05

Trump Administration. You swore an oath of

30:07

United States Constitution if you're a soldier,

30:09

if you're in Congress, if you're just

30:11

as bad as the all Spent law

30:13

and they take that very seriously. And

30:15

if there's liberal or if there's digital

30:17

precedents or anything that's inconsistent with the

30:20

tech for the constitution, this court is

30:22

going to aggressively protect the constitution because

30:24

it is. our ultimate law is the

30:26

supreme law. And of course, they swear

30:28

an oath to uphold it above all

30:30

else. When it comes to their job

30:32

now the left the course. They. Are

30:35

play games because aid you in what's

30:37

known as the Living Constitution which is

30:39

nothing more than an excuse to ignore

30:41

the constitution as it's written. They want

30:43

to decide what the cost you should

30:45

mean. They don't want the founding fathers

30:47

of the text the sector of of

30:49

the cost use the mean what it

30:51

means and you'd have a much different

30:53

outcome. To the end of the day,

30:55

the left views court as just another

30:57

extension of the progressive movement. And when

30:59

they don't, when we the people don't

31:01

do what they want, think about gay

31:04

marriage where Americans overwhelmingly. Rejected gay marriage all

31:06

across the country over and over and over

31:08

again. When we the people don't do what

31:10

say the liberals want guess what happened They

31:12

use the lateral the border the court and

31:14

into court with you might the left wing

31:17

want. And we saw that when a supreme

31:19

very issue decision in favor of gay marriage

31:21

said at the cost just the right. And

31:23

of course they're very upset that they've lost

31:25

their balls and they cannot control the courts

31:27

like that uses. That's why they're talking about

31:29

things like court that yes exactly are It

31:32

Will be right back with Professor Mark Smith.

31:34

Don't always. Fascinating discuss since this is

31:36

the how he carson. Always

31:39

returns after this.

31:55

These. February

32:00

here. Sitting in for how far

32:02

have an a fascinating discussion with

32:05

more Smith's Er Institution attorney who

32:07

has a you Tube channel or

32:09

Boxes diner see want to check

32:11

that out and Mark I wanted

32:13

to get your take real quick

32:15

if we could on a bunches

32:17

of stuff. Has since yesterday I

32:19

believe it was in or under

32:21

ballot initiatives. One fourteen is Alice

32:23

as don't know what that is.

32:25

it was us basically a ballot

32:27

initiative at past that was an

32:29

assault. Weapons Ban magazine capacity ban and

32:31

it got struck down and it seems to

32:34

be for good right? If I'm read not

32:36

correctly. Well

32:38

so far so good. So what happened

32:40

is or again in a very very

32:43

close start of a sub the like

32:45

You know that really like fifty one

32:47

percent to forty nine percent it was

32:49

the other. Getting closer than than obese

32:51

are In a referendum enacted a crazy

32:53

gun control law that included especially pants

32:56

on semi automatic rifles are a our

32:58

fifties style rifles magazines the whole more

33:00

than ten rounds that are political propaganda

33:02

references to large capacity nice days and

33:04

all sorts of other insanity is now.

33:06

didn't sat there, been federal. Lawsuit and

33:09

State lawsuits. The Federal lawsuits have been

33:11

in front of really liberal Federal judges

33:13

have done terrible injustice street the law.

33:15

It got it all wrong and they've

33:17

upheld or still a referendum as be

33:20

unconstitutional. For the good news is there's

33:22

a very strong Us State court judge

33:24

out there that said that this is

33:26

clearly unconstitutional under the the Federal Constitution

33:28

and the stood at States Constitution for

33:31

the right to keep it off. And

33:33

so far the Oregon Supreme Court is

33:35

basically to fall into the lower court's

33:37

decision. So far that this statute

33:39

there was an active by referendum is

33:41

unconstitutional under the Second Amendment and of

33:43

the organs partisan for the right to

33:45

keep and or I'm still in Oregon

33:47

or that referendum in terms of the

33:49

gun bans has not gone into effect.

33:52

But. It's still conceivable that the Oregon

33:54

Supreme Court could change it's mind or it

33:56

has an opportunity to do so. But so

33:58

far, but it's all the and. Given

34:00

our yeah over to commonly on firearms

34:03

or calmly or magazine, you can ban

34:05

it just because somebody doesn't like it.

34:07

So so far so good and organ.

34:09

Of course you know other states. these

34:11

blue states are trying to do more

34:13

and more gun control because I think

34:15

what's happened Toby is that ah the

34:18

Edge and we talked about this before

34:20

on your excellent show up. The anti

34:22

gun movement is really consolidated their efforts

34:24

in those states where they control the

34:26

democrats, control the Governor's office, or they

34:28

control both houses. And the court system.

34:31

So there really is just a most of

34:33

the resources in a handful of deep deep

34:35

blue states to try to an hour gun

34:37

control law there. And that's why you're seeing

34:39

all these cases coming up to the supreme

34:41

court from the deep blue states like California,

34:43

be Jersey, New York and so on and

34:46

yell. that's worth the effort is that's where

34:48

the pushes. The good news that the red

34:50

states. We. We are having and

34:52

fancy in after advancement of parole

34:54

scary and that's a good thing

34:56

that the enemy is on the

34:58

run and or consolidate their efforts

35:01

and a handful of terrible anti

35:03

gun or deep blue states since

35:05

I got it has migrated a

35:07

bit in it spreads like a

35:09

disease know like receiving corps legislation.

35:11

Me now I'm as a knee

35:13

jerk response to that Lewiston sooner

35:15

and you know seen in Colorado

35:17

would cease to be a very

35:19

red state and when purple analyses.

35:21

Blue States and unfortunately are very organized,

35:23

well funded group and are marked. Why

35:26

don't you tell everyone how they can

35:28

follow you and where they can You

35:30

know your books and what not not.

35:33

Follow up on some great content. Sure,

35:36

Well as the Four Boxes Diner you tube

35:38

channel that as okay about one hundred fifty

35:40

thousand subscribers. We've been far a track all

35:43

the D V D details of the Second

35:45

Amendment second any litigation, what's going on in

35:47

the courts in great detail. You can also

35:49

follow me on X at Four Boxes Diner

35:51

and yeah that's where they can get a

35:53

homie. Best the course. I have another book

35:56

coming out very soon as the to be

35:58

announced that the my A so so I

36:00

was fun memorial or. I this is the

36:02

how he car so thanks so much to be

36:04

right back into this.

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