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It's Howie

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to the Howie Car Show, 844-500-4242, 844-500-4242. It's

1:40

Mother's Day weekend, Happy Mother's Day to

1:42

all the mothers out there. And

1:46

you know, I was thinking about Turtle Boy and

1:49

getting banned from the courtroom today.

1:54

And again, I've never heard, if

1:56

someone can remember anytime the prosecution

1:58

has ever tried to ban. a reporter

2:01

or from the courtroom or

2:04

anybody else. I

2:06

can't recall anything like it. Whitey

2:09

tried to ban me and four reporters

2:11

from the Globe from his trial and

2:15

Judge Denise Cooper threw

2:17

it out immediately. I remember

2:19

getting a call on a Friday

2:21

night just like this. I was

2:25

with my family. I

2:27

don't know why I wasn't on the air, but I

2:29

wasn't. I got a

2:32

call from the U.S. Attorney's Office and they

2:34

said, you can't come in on Monday until

2:36

this thing gets straightened out. I said, what?

2:38

They said, yeah, Whitey listed you

2:40

as a defense witness. Again,

2:44

it's kind of, it

2:46

made me, once

2:49

I got in it, I was happy. You can say, I

2:51

was a Whitey Bulger.

2:54

I was on Whitey Bulger's defense list,

2:56

defense witness list, even though

2:58

he was just trying to keep me out of the

3:00

courtroom. Then I thought, there was

3:02

another time they tried to throw me

3:05

out of the courtroom. There was a

3:07

guy named William Barnosky. He was a

3:09

hit man for Winter

3:12

Hill. He got

3:14

out and he was crazy and he wanted to

3:16

make money. He had been in for a while.

3:18

He's one of those guys. He actually, I think

3:21

in Cambridge, he killed two guys

3:23

with one bullet. One time, it

3:25

was one of those weird cases. There are not too

3:27

many of those. Happened once in the South End, too,

3:29

and Bob the Chefs. He

3:31

got out and Whitey just said, okay,

3:33

I'm going to send you up to Lowell. I don't

3:36

want you around here, so go up to Lowell. Lowell

3:39

was run, sort of, by Jackie McDermott,

3:41

who was a funny guy. I knew

3:45

Jackie fairly well. Barnosky

3:49

was moving in and muscling

3:51

in on him. Finally,

3:55

one night in a cocaine rage, he

3:58

killed Jackie. Billy Bernosky

4:01

killed Jackie wasn't a

4:03

hit because it was just because they knew immediately who

4:05

it was and he also shot his son Peter McDarmid

4:07

it was in his 20s and And

4:11

I knew I and again, I knew Jackie pretty well

4:13

I didn't know the son so much but the son

4:15

was the main witness. So I was uh, so

4:18

I was in the courtroom at the beginning

4:20

of the trial and When

4:23

there was a break the one of the court

4:25

officers came up to me and said that judge

4:28

Barton judge Robert Barton He was a good guy.

4:30

So judge Barton wants to see you in chambers. I

4:33

said, okay I didn't know what

4:35

it was about and he and judge

4:37

Barton said hey, Howie. How you doing?

4:40

So good to see you. What's this all

4:42

about? He said I just wanted you to

4:44

know Richie Egbert. He was this He's

4:47

dead now. You know, some

4:49

people like them. I thought he was kind of a really

4:51

sleazy guy. He was a mob lawyer Richie

4:55

Egbert wants you banned from the

4:57

courtroom What

5:00

what do you mean and and judge

5:02

Barton said well I think he figures

5:04

that you know you you're a friend

5:06

of the old man and Peter Peter

5:08

McDermott the witness is You

5:11

know that he was gonna be the main

5:13

witness against McDermott against the Barnosky is You

5:16

know, he's he's really a shaky witness. So

5:18

they figure you'd back him up So they

5:20

want to they want to keep you out

5:22

of the courtroom I said that's ridiculous and

5:24

the judge said judge Barton said I agree

5:26

and they kept me in the courthouse In

5:29

the courtroom and so I I I was

5:32

there Best the

5:34

only other time it so, you know, the follow-up

5:36

is, you know, I don't know years later 20

5:38

years later I guess maybe

5:40

more I'm

5:43

covering the the bulger trial and

5:47

One of the one of the the

5:50

spectators that was brought up was

5:52

the widow of

5:57

A guy that Barnosky had killed

6:00

another guy that Barnosky had killed and And

6:04

she was and I just heard that Barnosky

6:06

had died in prison and I went up

6:08

and introduced myself to the to the widow

6:10

of the woman that he had killed Not

6:12

Jackie McDermott another another of his hit victims

6:15

and I

6:17

said, did you hear? Said

6:19

I mentioned I introduced myself. I said, did

6:21

you hear your your husband's killer just died

6:23

last night at the in the in the

6:25

prison That's the

6:27

only time I've ever delivered news like that

6:29

Taylor to somebody she didn't know I gave

6:32

her the news I won't say

6:34

she was happy But she's

6:36

always gonna remember me as the person who

6:38

told her about about

6:41

her husband's killer dying Barnosky

6:44

was the enforcer for fat Tony

6:47

Shula. He was the guy who

6:49

fixed horse races and and

6:54

He wrote a he took a

6:56

creative writing class under Under

7:00

Chris Leiden in the in the jail

7:03

and he talked about fixing the races in some

7:05

of the at the some of the old county

7:07

fairs when they used to have the racing and

7:10

They would give him so much That's where they

7:12

learned to to you know What

7:15

the dosage was to get the horses slowed

7:17

down and when they were starting

7:19

out they one time they gave this horse Down

7:21

in Marshfield or someplace like that so much dope

7:25

but his I Didn't

7:28

know this but his test horses testicles

7:30

fall down Did

7:33

you know this? No,

7:35

no, no, I did not know this and

7:38

so Barnosky Tight

7:41

you know what the title of his of

7:44

his story was the

7:47

swinging bleep derby I

7:51

have a copy of it Taylor if you'd like to read it

7:55

Is it this is an article? It's

7:57

a it's a story It Yeah, it's a

7:59

story. Yeah.

8:01

Are you don't want to go to your way

8:03

but if is scattered around I'll take a look

8:05

at and I were I do have you know

8:07

A I was going through my old notes for

8:09

the in July projects and I found that. I

8:13

saw a i have a coherent about

8:15

four pages and the yep that's so

8:17

that's that's my spot that's you know

8:19

it's one of these things you know

8:21

you start out with were in one

8:23

place, a turtle boy get thrown out

8:25

accord. It reminds me of getting thrown

8:27

out A It reminds me one time

8:29

I get one time I almost got

8:31

thrown out a court, etc etc. So

8:33

that's my, that's my story. That's my

8:35

story and I'm and I'm sticking to

8:38

it. I was like a three and

8:40

one. Eight

8:45

Four four, Five hundred Endings Lot

8:47

more interesting than the beginning. I.

8:53

Think I may have the story here as

8:56

a matter fact? Well, I can't wait for

8:58

the next break! For

9:03

when three age I was

9:06

a young man stepping stone

9:08

or it's but it was

9:10

a three and one stories.

9:12

That's. I was just one story

9:15

or was it was kind

9:17

of like a Jerry Angelo

9:19

was colloquy. eight four four

9:21

or five hundred, forty two

9:23

forty two. I'm. How we

9:25

car. I saw how

9:27

encourage show will be right back.

9:42

The Emperor of Feet or regard

9:44

it as. I

10:00

got it, I found it. Aren't

10:03

you lucky I'm working on this Jerry and Juleau

10:05

project and I just happen to be going through

10:07

my notes. You're going to get to hear this.

10:11

Can I use the word that actually

10:13

is in the title, Taylor? You're

10:16

really the professional here. It is a

10:18

quote. You are quoting. But

10:23

I would think that powers higher

10:25

than me would prefer you did

10:28

not. Yeah,

10:30

the swinging bleep derby. I'm

10:32

just having, I don't want to interfere with

10:35

the original manuscript. You don't want to soil

10:37

it. I don't want to soil it with

10:40

my highlighter. So,

10:42

Emma's making a copy of it and I'll

10:45

go to it for the next break and then I'll read

10:47

you excerpts from it. It is pretty funny,

10:49

I must say. Barnosky

10:52

wasn't as good with a pen as

10:54

he was with a

10:56

revolver, but he had a

10:58

lot of good material to work with. You'll see it.

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Today's poll question, which you can vote

11:25

in at howiecarshow.com, is should the judge

11:28

have banned Turtle Boy from the courtroom

11:30

for all the interesting witnesses in the

11:32

Karen Reed murder trial? Yes?

11:35

No, it was an outrage? No,

11:38

but she did Turtle Boy a favor? Or

11:40

not sure? No, but

11:42

she did Turtle Boy a favor? 28%

11:45

say no, she did him a favor. 58% say

11:47

no, it was an outrage. 8% say

11:50

not sure. 6% say yes. You should have

11:52

been banned. The numbers are, You

11:55

know, moving around a little bit this afternoon,

11:57

unlike some of the other poll questions this

11:59

week. Eight Four Four

12:01

Five Hundred Forty Two Forty Two Aubrey

12:03

Your next with our car. I

12:07

our yesterday God God.

12:10

Can. You imagine if recordings the

12:12

stats are making right now of

12:15

each of these people after they

12:17

get off the stand. There.

12:19

Must be hundred wiretaps. Go right

12:21

now in Canton. Hey I can

12:23

you tell me what it stood

12:25

Bolger connection to this case to

12:27

the week. So the family built

12:29

a house. Know why? I

12:31

don't know why you are couple people have asked me

12:34

if there was a bulbs your connection. I don't think

12:36

so. What is worth think there is rising you because

12:38

you seem to be able to connect him to. Anything.

12:41

Actually that was A although the there was

12:43

a call we didn't get to it with

12:45

ah with turtle Boy in the know I

12:47

I don't know me they they I I

12:49

I don't even know what part of Boston

12:51

they come from I'm assuming they originally from

12:53

Boston but I guess the I guess they're

12:55

going to ask guy the get the going

12:58

to ask Brian Albert he was A at

13:00

the time he was a Boston police officer

13:02

he took a retirement been around for a

13:04

long time so was about time from the

13:06

retire but day I guess at some people

13:08

are saying that he had a yeah Boston

13:10

are unmarked. Vehicle: Bpd unmarked vehicle when

13:12

he was driving around. Yeah.

13:16

That's most of us for it

13:18

focuses on turtle Boy recorded that

13:20

I thought he did that. The

13:23

weeks family added connection to the

13:25

house that they bought. They came

13:27

from Dorchester. He

13:29

was a cop around the same

13:32

time of why alter Sir Reign

13:34

of Terror. Managers

13:36

Not really not really. I mean I you

13:38

know why the why the went on Abby

13:41

the he would have been a young cop

13:43

of them. Very at the you know right

13:45

at the end of By Whities Reign of

13:47

Terror is is ah I don't think so

13:49

how I'll ask him about it or maybe

13:52

it'll come up and not cross examination on

13:54

Monday and it's besides this day is getting

13:56

a of the stays getting better and know

13:58

it every day is more and more interesting.

14:00

Thanks for the call Aubrey. Eight

14:03

Four Four Five hundred, Forty Two Forty

14:05

Two. You're

14:08

in Limerick guy. Your story about the

14:10

racehorse puts a whole new spin on

14:12

the phrase. watching the ball drop And

14:14

and Officer Marks as can you schedule

14:17

a masterpiece theater. Reading from the Horse,

14:19

The Horse Testicle Source: My really not

14:21

really. because I it's there's not a

14:23

I don't I'm just looking at it

14:26

Again, I haven't looked at there's very

14:28

little love. Newton

14:30

with for of for a masterpiece theater

14:32

you need that. You need dialogue you

14:34

know usually get that from a deposition

14:37

or I you know I a court

14:39

transcript and this is just stay. Yeah

14:41

this is this is just the narrative

14:43

narrative but our our i'm gonna I'm

14:45

gonna go go through it on the

14:47

next break and I'll I'll read it.

14:49

I'll read some of a weird how

14:51

to appear where did he publish the

14:53

store He hints. Chris.

14:55

Weidman, you know, coastline. The.

14:59

The the the old by anchor for the

15:01

channel to back in the day and that

15:03

he would that he had a radio show

15:05

or talk radio show is a bit he's

15:07

he's a good guy. Believe. It

15:09

or not a me seems he seems like you

15:11

know would be a crazy liberty his buddies the

15:14

is a decent. And

15:16

by so eat it. but he he

15:18

liked to do lived things like going

15:20

to prisons and and you know teaching

15:22

courses and so he pot a creative

15:24

writing course i think it M C

15:26

I Norfolk and one of the students

15:28

was i was was William bar na

15:31

ski and so one day you know

15:33

what with park and and goofing around

15:35

than the an iced I still kept

15:37

up with them for a long time.

15:40

He you know I work for my

15:42

channel to for a little while tells

15:44

to look not him but the powers

15:46

that be fired me cause was in

15:48

effect Things I have donations contributions and

15:50

I any said you know I had

15:52

died in said william that billie burn

15:54

asked you know him he kill what

15:56

are your friends and by a he

15:58

wrote this really weird. story and it was

16:00

kind of a funny story and I said I'd love

16:02

to get it until he sent it to me and

16:04

this is his own story.

16:07

He typed this story. Now

16:09

I got a copy of it. Google thinks

16:11

I'm searching for the swinging duck derby.

16:16

No, it's not going to be on

16:18

Google. It's never been published anywhere. I

16:22

thought about trying to get the rights to put it

16:24

in plug uglies. But

16:26

then his daughter I think is

16:29

a lawyer now and I don't think she would

16:31

like me for some reason. I just get that

16:33

feeling and that she wouldn't give me permission to

16:36

put it in between hardcovers. So

16:39

I passed on it.

16:41

But it's actually entertaining.

16:44

And he

16:46

worked for this guy Fat Tony Shula

16:48

who will make an appearance in the

16:51

Angelo book who I knew a little

16:53

bit too. He was

16:56

in the witness protection program after he

16:58

ratted out the Winter Hill Gang. And

17:00

then when the Winter Hill Gang was all gone

17:02

to prison or retired or whatever, he

17:05

came back into Boston and wanted to, I

17:07

don't know what he wanted to do. 844-542-42,

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17:49

the sandwich, fries and a drink, totals

17:52

a hefty $13.47. Yeah,

17:58

but you know, it wasn't that long. Long

18:00

ago with the to go to the drive

18:02

through and get a I and get a

18:04

double cheeseburger for a back. And.

18:06

Said Now now it's. A

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18:14

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18:35

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18:37

an Egg Mcmuffin is a whopping Seven

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Twenty nine and a single order of

18:41

hash browns costs Five Sixty Nine. Will

18:47

be like I was. This would easily

18:49

service. Use

19:05

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for for five hundred Forty Two Forty

19:10

Two A for for five hundred Forty

19:12

Two Forty Two So this is the

19:14

yeah. I

19:17

just is. the story runs for a

19:19

while when it's not bad it's kind

19:21

of interesting for the for friday night

19:23

the enough this is again this a

19:26

guy who was he was you tube

19:28

he was a hit man basically but

19:30

he he also worked with this guy

19:32

named fat tony sure fix some horse

19:34

races and that the they say. They

19:37

Fat Tony, Shula. Broke.

19:40

up though the original winter hill mobbed

19:42

by testifying against all of them once

19:44

at just as jerry angelo told the

19:46

winter hill gang was going to happen

19:48

the guy was a rat and he

19:50

would screw woman in any a dead

19:52

he ended up screw animates dates back

19:55

tony even that up on the cover

19:57

of sports illustrated ratna mouth and his

19:59

his muscle was this guy William Bernosky.

20:02

So here's his just

20:05

a few excerpts

20:07

from the story. Do you mind if

20:09

I add some atmosphere like a crackling

20:11

fireplace? Yeah, I mean I love

20:14

all-time radio. If you can think of some... I

20:16

think the fireplace will

20:21

do. You don't want to do

20:23

the call to the post and all that

20:25

kind of stuff? I didn't have that ready.

20:28

And some crowd noise and some galloping

20:31

hooves? Maybe for the podcast.

20:33

Okay. Many

20:36

years ago a couple of

20:38

friends and myself worked the racetrack every

20:40

day gambling and borrowing, stealing whatever we

20:43

could from whomever we could to support

20:45

this habit that I assure you was

20:47

worse than heroin. We

20:49

would buy horses. Sounds like it's

20:51

an arson story. This is about a race. You're

20:54

racing, you're fireside, you've got

20:56

a warm glass of milk

20:59

and you're telling your grandkids a story.

21:01

They won't hear this one for a

21:03

while. We would buy nags for 2,000

21:06

bucks and run them and of course always

21:08

bet our own and 90% of the time

21:10

we'd lose every nickel and wonder how the bleep

21:12

would get home. I hate to lose and I

21:15

especially hate to be broke on a daily basis

21:17

or ever for that matter. Something

21:19

had to change and I knew that I

21:21

had to change it because Fat Tony and

21:24

Sal had the affliction far and away worse

21:26

than mine. Around Massachusetts

21:28

there's a series of fairs every summer. I

21:30

guess there are about eight of them. When

21:32

one ends the other begins. The

21:34

jockeys and trainers at this events are mostly

21:37

has-beens or wannabes. Either way they were

21:39

all they are always desperate for money

21:41

and drugs and the fast life in

21:43

general. I felt I could use

21:46

my charismatic personality and my

21:48

natural ability to get my own way

21:50

most of the time. I

21:52

can ingratiate myself with enough of these

21:55

types to make something very profitable happen.

21:58

The Security of most of these. Or cracks

22:00

is nonexistent. Problem.

22:03

Number one was, if I was to fix one

22:05

of these races, the handle was not big enough

22:07

to score enough. How can I fix this? Also,

22:11

Well they have bookmakers at these tracks

22:13

would make their living soft dreamers like

22:15

make. See. So

22:17

much as Perry mutual bag you can you

22:19

can bet you know directly with. Soft

22:23

that they came, they indicated they would be

22:25

more than happy to take as much action

22:27

as I wished. Promise not to put any

22:29

in the any in the windows. So

22:36

he is talking about how he learned to do it.

22:41

First, we paid jockeys and on occasion

22:44

one would win when he wasn't supposed

22:46

to. Examples where made. After all that

22:48

the it was a deal. It soon

22:50

became evident to all concerned that there

22:53

was money to be made in that

22:55

the people with that were honorable Fat

22:57

Tony and Fitness a burnout. They were

23:00

honorable people was also apparent that was

23:02

a sufficient amount of willing muscle. He's

23:05

referring to himself. Of course this. Do it

23:07

or not. The Swinging Bleak Derby. We

23:11

eventually end up with eight horses from

23:13

six different states trainers and Jackie's from

23:15

different states. We have all the jet

23:17

man read, an entire barn and one

23:19

of these local race tracks. Myself

23:23

and my two dogs stayed off the scene for

23:25

most of the ski. If a jockey said no

23:27

to was that he wouldn't hold his horse on

23:30

a given day would go to the trainer for

23:32

change a piece of equipment for price. Of course

23:34

the horse would lose without the jack jockey. No

23:36

one. Why are the other hand when a trainer

23:39

said no we went to the jockey. The.

23:41

Results were the same. On

23:43

occasion both would say no one. In those

23:46

days I was not well known so I

23:48

went to a bad and got some medication

23:50

that would slow the horse now so that

23:52

his mind was not on running Monday. especially

23:56

with for ccs of this wonder drug

23:58

to me the puzzle. The beginning

24:00

to fit. Now remember for

24:03

Ccs was the prescribed dogs.

24:07

Now I had to find a people

24:09

to march at least five very sleepy

24:11

horses. The post I nor corrupt but

24:13

wonderfully colorful character and his name was

24:15

read. He

24:18

had flaming red hair and about ten

24:20

kids with flaming red Hear all of

24:22

them Boys girls race crackers, all of

24:24

them, some of them just teens. A

24:26

good group read agrees to use his

24:28

whole outfit to take these horse horses

24:30

to post. I

24:32

loved the thousands of people sitting there in

24:35

the stands waiting to be fleeced by a

24:37

mere project. Glad. The

24:42

racing secretary was very kind to us. The

24:44

race was that was hours on. It was

24:46

a daily double and also a perfect pass.

24:48

That means they're a separate pools who do

24:50

not show up on the board so the

24:52

public knows nothing. To

24:55

super complicated. Now

24:59

remember we have eight horses in this race,

25:01

all belonging to us. We intend to put

25:03

five to sleep. Almost the sleep which leaves

25:06

three. Who cares, which were they when we

25:08

went anyway? You can. Race

25:10

Day. I mean jockeys, trainers, agents. I tell

25:13

him if anyone's thinking of being cute or

25:15

slick, think again because I have spelled it

25:17

out and know stories will sell with me.

25:20

We get all our people together and money together

25:22

and send each one back to a different window

25:25

early to tie them up because they have so

25:27

many tickets to by. Dallas.

25:30

Now it's post I've. Read

25:39

leads the first horse from the barn,

25:41

followed closely by his lovely Read, had

25:43

a daughter and then two more horses

25:45

and to more Red Hat's eventually eight

25:47

horses and it. Ate. Redheads,

25:51

I have only minutes to go back

25:53

side and medicaid the five horses. and

25:58

what hasn't started yet about

26:00

this night. Red tells me he has already

26:02

given them sleepers four CCs a piece. I

26:04

was 25 years old and

26:06

sure that eight CCs would

26:09

ensure the victory. Against Red's

26:11

advice I got my way once again.

26:14

Red and one

26:16

of his sons had to slap two of the horses vigorously

26:18

to keep them awake long enough to get them

26:21

to post. When

26:23

a horse has to relieve himself his you

26:26

know what falls out of its sheath that

26:28

if I must say so it is an

26:30

impressive sight. I of course

26:32

did not know that when a horse is

26:34

totally relaxed the same thing happens only more

26:36

visual. Three

26:41

of them didn't even finish and it was

26:43

around the slowest time ever in Massachusetts history

26:45

for that distance. So we had

26:47

made a major score at a minor racetrack

26:49

which everyone was sure would not happen. The

26:52

bookies all paid full price after trying to

26:54

find all ways all kinds of ways to

26:56

get out. When it was

26:58

explained that there was only one way

27:01

out and it wasn't

27:03

favorable we all got paid. Everyone

27:05

got there and I felt

27:08

we had really accomplished something. The

27:10

smart guys in the new suits got bleeped

27:12

but here comes the kicker. Just

27:15

as all the Sharpies were getting over

27:17

their bruised egos and the devastation that

27:19

they lost or got conned for so

27:21

much dough the major papers wrote major

27:23

stories about what they believed happened and

27:25

their stories were full of humor. They

27:28

mentioned that these three guys were barred

27:30

from every racetrack in the country all

27:32

of them what a high. This

27:38

particular race says William Barnosky in

27:41

this closing sentence became infamous and

27:43

it was known as the swinging

27:45

bleep derby. And

27:49

that's it. That's the swinging bleep derby. 8 4 4 5 4

27:52

2 42. Eddie you're next with Howie Carr.

27:59

Go ahead Eddie. Oh

28:02

yeah, there's a good method. Hung around

28:04

all the bars and revere ever It.

28:07

And every day when a jockey came

28:09

into a bar room he was like

28:11

a celebrity society haha yeah for hims.

28:15

He was really the sort of gosh in a

28:17

row. Livery a celebrity

28:19

in the small hours even though they started

28:21

doing the same was just straight and they

28:23

would lead but they were sort of the

28:25

a lot though. they get two minutes illinois.

28:29

Taking bets on the phone the

28:31

people who the all build up

28:33

a new will lose that was

28:35

in Florida because the road. Known

28:37

with the wind but that's another good

28:39

story as the region of knowing you

28:41

know the I guess you know why

28:43

Juri and Juma heated the Fat Tony

28:45

Schumer the burn asked his boss he

28:47

figured out some way to why you

28:49

know use big binoculars on a on

28:51

a race track you know what The

28:53

Suffolk Downs Racetrack you know nearly an

28:55

apartment building and he was pulling the

28:57

same stuff. He was passed posting and

28:59

I and Uma the the the A

29:02

mafia found out that he was passed

29:04

posting the races Fat Tony and they

29:06

almost killed him. And I guess his

29:08

mother went down to the dog house and

29:10

beg for mercy and they gave him another

29:12

chance and then he came back. He was

29:14

a slimy character of fat Tony. Of

29:16

that area of I borrow them all that

29:18

I go to I do we all those

29:20

stories are always I within a week we know

29:22

about it and and you know the Oakland Raiders

29:25

a to do today for such. As

29:28

good as the lead your my sense.

29:30

Thanks Thanks Etti. I

29:33

used to live on Spring Hill and they in

29:35

Somerville and I you know it out and I

29:37

was in. He. Was walking it was

29:39

walking distance but it wasn't that my neighborhood

29:41

bar anything but it was right at the

29:43

at the almost the end of Martial Three

29:46

where the Winter Hill gang was with. These

29:48

were the guys were fix a moon, the

29:50

races with us with Fat Tony in the

29:52

seventies and you know that aim at a

29:54

bar was. A panic.

29:58

Attack. And. Frank

30:01

Salome got to be friends or

30:03

acquaintances with Paul Rico,

30:05

the corrupt FBI agent who died in

30:07

prison who set up the the

30:10

Wheeler hit in Oklahoma when

30:13

he wrecked his car one

30:15

day at Suffolk Downs, his

30:17

FBI car and he

30:19

obviously couldn't tell him he was at the track

30:22

during working hours so he

30:24

had Frank Salome fix it. Harness

30:27

racing was even more corrupt says three three

30:29

nine yeah I think so yes exactly

30:33

eight four four five hundred so

30:38

I'll be my parents always used an expression growing

30:40

up that was passed on to me I've got

30:42

a bleep like a racehorse I

30:44

think that just means that there's a lot they they

30:47

they have a lot of fluid when they

30:49

when they go Rambo

30:51

413 I remember watching the horse races

30:54

at the three county race grounds you

30:56

could see some jockeys were pulling back

30:58

on the reins they

31:00

were pulling back on the reins if they knew what was

31:02

good for him that's for sure eight

31:04

four four five hundred forty two

31:07

forty two eight four four five

31:09

hundred forty two forty two Chris

31:13

you're next with Howie Carr go ahead

31:15

Chris hey Howie you

31:18

were talking we were talking the

31:20

other day you were talking the

31:22

other day about court cases where

31:25

every time you ever see the court case they always

31:27

went up the

31:29

chain yeah there was a court case about

31:32

eight nine years ago in US District

31:35

Court in Boston where a

31:37

guy David Brock he

31:40

went he was the big guy and he

31:42

went down the chain and got eight years

31:44

office sentence to give up the next guy

31:46

underneath him. That's not the

31:48

way you're supposed to do it Chris I'm

31:50

surprised that happened in federal court I mean

31:53

they you know they're you know they they've

31:55

been some problems in the in the federal

31:58

especially in the FBI in Boston and they

32:00

appointed Rachel Rollins, Biden did, and she was

32:02

corrupt as hell. But usually they

32:04

go, usually they go up the chain. Thanks.

32:07

Thanks for the call, Chris. But they didn't do

32:09

that with Whitey and Stevie actually. So it's, it

32:12

is a problem if the, but Whitey and Stevie

32:14

were paying off the FBI. So that's what happened.

32:17

All right. We'll take a break and come right back

32:19

on how we call. The

32:28

Howie Car Show will be right back.

32:45

You're listening to the Howie

32:47

Car Show. You

32:50

know, how many of these guys were named Fat? There

32:53

was Fat Vinnie. There was

32:55

Fat Pellegrini. There

32:59

was Fat Vinnie, the Vince that the guy we

33:01

were talking about yesterday. Very few

33:03

of them were named Slim, although there was

33:05

a skinny Kazonis in the, uh, in the

33:07

Angelo Inner Circle. All right. Skinny

33:09

Diamato. What? There's also

33:11

Skinny Diamato. Yeah. A

33:13

few skinnies, but not more, more fats.

33:17

All right. If you haven't heard, we've started

33:19

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33:26

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33:28

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33:35

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33:42

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33:46

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33:48

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33:51

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34:06

How much money do you need to retire?

34:08

A lot of it has to do with

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34:41

they can. Then remember, when one spouse dies,

34:43

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34:47

but there's a lot more involved. Does it

34:49

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34:54

the idea is you got to just do the

34:56

planning right. You got to allow for the taxation

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and everything else and just make sure the numbers

35:00

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35:48

All right, 844-542-4242. Let's

35:55

just play John

35:58

Lovitz. This is... pretty good stuff

36:00

and he says, I'm not Jewish so

36:03

I can't say this or

36:05

I don't feel comfortable saying this, but he can

36:07

say it because he is Jewish. Cut

36:10

three. And Bernie Sanders,

36:12

he's always been, you know, I

36:16

said it before and I'll say it again,

36:18

he's a self-loathing Jew. And

36:21

there's a lot of them. And,

36:27

you know, you go, why do you say that? I go,

36:29

well, it's clear as a bell. This

36:35

is his pause. No, he's not for

36:37

Israel. They

36:41

have to stop this war. Why isn't

36:43

he condemning Hamas for starting it? What

36:46

about that? And

36:48

whatever you think of Trump, the fact

36:50

is that he's done more for

36:54

Israel than any president

36:57

in the history of this country. Is

37:01

it true? It is true, isn't it? John

37:03

Lobbitts, 844-542-42. Put

37:11

a fin on Swifty and the third. Happy

37:13

Mother's Day, Howie Carr. Check

37:16

this out.