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You're listening to the Human Upgrade with

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Dave Aspirate. Formerly.

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Bulletproof radio. You're.

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Listening to The Human Upgrade with

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Dave Asprey, I

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guess today is Laura Co.

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She's an author, a blogger,

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a certified life coach, Was

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not these days. But.

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She helps in what I

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was going to call the

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the soft intuitive areas of

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coaching. I've worked with coaches

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in in my life who

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are very. The

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tail end goals and metric or

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he that and are some that

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are like you can Do it.

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I cannot really need the i

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can do it most of the

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time but sometimes you'll find someone

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who just has a unique ability

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to see as you be unseen.

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And I heard about Laura and

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said this is really interesting because

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you're she's been a real educational

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stuff, sold, sold her company as

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a healthcare tech. Entrepreneur and

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then went back into hear

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her club philosophical roots. She's

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read about emotional obesity, but

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the reason I'm interviewing her

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today isn't around that it's

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actually about some called the

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Akashi Record. Your

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long time listener and you're attuned

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to metaphysics and spirituality. You might

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have heard me mention this maybe

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four or five times on past

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episodes, just in passing, usually when

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it surrounds a neuroscience. Or psychedelic

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or something like that. I haven't

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really spoken about that too much

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publicly, but it's an an area

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of oh Gotcha Money training and

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other as which are practices that

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I'm familiar. So

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when Laura learned how to tap into the Akashic record, she's

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gonna tell us what they are in a minute, she

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wrote something called the Nature

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of Series and actually

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started something called the Little Soul School.

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That's why she's been in Forbes helping

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to post New York Observer and

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a bunch of other magazines. So we're gonna

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talk about weird psychology,

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dreamland, metaphysical

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stuff on the show today. And am

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I saying all this is real? No. Am

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I saying it's not real? No, because I'm

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not a douchebag. And the

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people who say that can't be, because

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it can't be our circular logic,

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kind of religious dogmatic people. What

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I'm going to ask you to do here is suspend your disbelief

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if you have it and see if there might be something to

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this. In my experience there is, but

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it is not always a two

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plus two equals four kind of a thing.

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So if it happens more than 30% of the time, it's

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probably not placebo. With that

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notice, let's go. Laura, welcome. Thank

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you. Thank you. I love

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your intro. So fun to be here today. It's

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fun to be able to go deep on neuroscience

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and then go deep into esoteric stuff. And

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one of the things I like is

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that you've actually gone out

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and done something sizable and successful in

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the real world. So your credibility when

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you talk about spiritual stuff is different.

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And you're saying, okay, I was raised

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in a commune. The first

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six years of my life, I was in darkness in a

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cave raised by nuns. I'm very

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intrigued by that, but you also could just be

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bad shit crazy. So what you

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do, you've shown an ability to execute in the

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real world and to

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execute in other parts of

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the world as well, which is really cool.

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So people who have a foot on both sides are

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more intriguing to me. So

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walk me through the acoustic

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records. What is that? What's

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going on with this? Yeah, yeah,

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I appreciate the. perspective of your audience and

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what you're sharing, it's mine. I mean, I

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grew up close to atheist. You know, I

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built and sold a healthcare tech company and

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I would have said I was like a

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healthy skeptic, you know, I sort of believed

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in maybe something but but that

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was kind of it. But I bumped into

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this one day, I didn't

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know what it was, never heard of it, went

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in and did a reading and

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I was like, what was that?

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So the Akashic record, simply put,

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it's the energetic space. of

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your soul's history. Everything

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you've ever done in all of your

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lifetimes. So this system is

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based on a multiple lifetime

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incarnation belief system, whether you believe that or not.

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It's just what what the belief is and

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it's like a Google Cloud,

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if you will. So

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imagine a massive cloud where everything

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you're doing is stored there and you're

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able to then pull down and

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access this information in an

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organized Google search. So imagine

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there's a Google search and...

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If it's a Google search, is there

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a lot of censorship and manipulation from Big Pharma

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in the Akashic records? I'm just wondering. No,

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no, not that kind of Google

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search. But just to make it more tangible for

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people, because it's so odd sounding,

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it took me years to try to explain

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this to people because of the the

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nature of the topic and how little it's been studied. So

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I just think of it this way. Like

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you go to Google, you type in a ski resorts

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and you get back tons of

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ski jackets. What if you could type

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in, I want to go skiing and

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you get back one result with the

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perfect place for you, the

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boots you need, the jacket you need,

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everything's hyperlinked in one result. And so

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the Akashic records are

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everything. And then an Akashic record

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reading is an ability to

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pull down just the right information for you

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in this moment in time to help you

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with the specific thing you're asking about. It's

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not about skiing, it's about you learning

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about yourself in a deeper way to

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kind of break through. I sort

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of think if you had like a bunch of friends and

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a team of therapists and a guru and

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they were like, how do we help Laura out in

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this moment, right? In the best way,

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it feels like that you get this exceptional

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advice that speaks to somewhere really

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deep inside of you that even a team of therapists

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wouldn't have gotten out of me. And

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it just breaks you open to a deeper

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understanding of yourself so you can move forward

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and honestly experience

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a bigger life, right? Which is what I think most of

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us want. We want to be happier, we want to experience

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more, right? Have those two things

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in tandem. And so that's

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my quick answer. What

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makes you qualified to access the Akashic Records?

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Like an encryption key, is the right URL? Like...

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Yeah, no, it's a great question, right?

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Like I went and did it and I would have said I

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was like not a mystical person, even 1%. When

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you say you did it, was this you going into a state

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or you worked with someone who knew how to do it?

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Yeah, I walked in a room, I met with a woman

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who did it. She was awesome.

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She told me things about myself that my

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best friends wouldn't have articulated. It

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was extremely helpful. So I like to

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explore things that are useful. I did

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a ton of them and every single

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time it was helpful. And

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at one point I heard

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that I could learn to do this and I

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thought that's absolutely not an option for me. I

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can't even imagine it. But I did

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it just because I'm that kind of person. I like to

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explore things. I don't know. I don't

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really live in a

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life where I judge things before I experience

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them for myself. So I thought,

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well, you know, why not? I did it

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and I realized

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me, who doesn't think of themselves as somebody

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who is mystical or could, was able to.

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And not only was I able to, but I was offering

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my friends and the people around me. I would

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read anybody I could for free just because I

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was like so excited. and they were freaking

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out. They were crying, they were like, how do you know that? And

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I could tell them about their kids and their family. And

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then one day I just taught my friend on a whim. I

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mean, I was just like, I don't know, we were at my

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summer house and we were a little bored and I was

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like, let me try this on you. And

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so I did, and then I started

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teaching more people and

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I realized, oh my God,

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like I can kind of teach anybody. And

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then honestly, Dave, there was

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this men's group. I

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have a dear friend and he was running this men's

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group and he likes the stuff,

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but the men's group was kind of around productivity

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and exercise and it was a bunch of guys

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and goal oriented. And he's a trader on Wall

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Street and he's like, we're gonna blow their minds

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and bring you into, we're not gonna tell them.

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We're just gonna surprise them. And I

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thought, oh God, this is gonna be awful. I

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mean, it's sort of non-spiritual guys, like

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they're investment bankers and accountants and lawyers

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and business guys, like nothing wrong with

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it. But I started getting nervous that maybe

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I was over my skis a bit and

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it wasn't gonna happen. But it

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was 40 guys and all 40 accessed the

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Akashic records. Wow,

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these were like thinker types, like not

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spiritual guys. No, dude,

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these were dudes. Like they were dude crying,

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they were dude freaking out, they were sweating,

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they're like, there's no way I'm gonna do

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this. And all 40 of them did it

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and not only did it, but they, most

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of them wrote me and said it was

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one of the most exceptional experiences. And

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what that did for me is that I had this moment of

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like, oh shit, we're

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all able to do this. Listen,

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you walk up to a piano, you can

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touch the keys. Are you

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gonna be good? I don't know, put

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the time in. Not everybody

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has the talent, so I think talent and

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time are important with anything we do. But

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I want people to

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know that it's accessible, right?

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It's not some mystical, wooey,

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weird thing. I

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know it sounds like it is, but I have now

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taught thousands and thousands and thousands. thousands and thousands

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of people. And I mean, I have not

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failed yet. And

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again, it's like saying I got

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a tennis ball. Can I hit a ball? Sure,

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are you going to Wimbledon? Probably not. Probably

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not, not everybody's great. I happen to

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be pretty talented and I'm extremely tenacious.

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I put in thousands of hours. So

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what makes somebody qualified? Anybody can

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do it. But like piano, you gotta

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practice and probably there's talent,

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right? Like with everything. Yeah.

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It's funny, many, many years ago,

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there probably was no juggling. And

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then someone figured out that you could juggle

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and it looked like a total miracle. And

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they probably got burned at the stake for a while for doing

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it. And then eventually, you

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know, another 10 generations later juggling

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was allowed and someone taught someone else how to do it and

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it spread. So you can say it was a mystical power or

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just something people could do that we didn't know we could do. Right,

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like cell phones, right? Nobody would have thought

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30 years ago we'd be

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interconnected like this. And so. Some

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people would have. Like

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a lot of people don't know. Some of my

11:10

favorite stories, this is also more metaphysical stuff. We've

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all heard that in the old, like

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the Western part of the US, that

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the Native Americans would use smoke

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signals to communicate.

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But as a network engineering guy from Silicon

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Valley, there is not enough bandwidth to communicate

11:29

anything in puffs of smoke. You couldn't even

11:31

do like Morse code in an effective way.

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So we just sort of accepted

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it without thinking. But when you

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ask them, they're like, oh yeah, we

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would light the fires to tell the other

11:43

guys down the road, whatever, to tune in.

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So then they would pay attention and then

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they would connect to the other person's

11:50

consciousness and know whatever the message was. And

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it was just a reminder basically to go into

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a mild meditative state so you can receive information.

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Nice. So there

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are these built-in abilities. And when you

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say you've taught people to do this, and it's just

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a skill, I believe that because I learned

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an ancient Chinese method once from

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a guy who's like, I'm the 20th generation of this.

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And it's something anyone can do, just my family hid

12:15

it from everyone because they gave us a unique advantage

12:17

and I decided to put it out into the world.

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So it was something that's

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spookily useful. And

12:25

then we've had what, Lisa Williams has

12:27

been on the show. She's taught 40,000 people on the

12:29

channel. Some of them are better than

12:31

others. So bottom line is maybe you're listening to

12:33

the show, maybe you've listened for

12:35

10 years and you've turned on your mitochondria

12:37

all the way. They have more powers. They're

12:40

called the Yogic cities, S-I-D-H-I.

12:43

These are documented abilities of our

12:46

human hardware that can happen,

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they're just rare. So

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this is one of those things where I've

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run across it in different lineages that I've

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studied and I've worked

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with the Akashic Records directly, especially

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in very altered states without

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plant medicines just at 40 years then with neurofeedback.

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I've gone really, really deep and had communication. So

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this is like a, maybe

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Carl Jung's collective consciousness. Do you think the

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Akashic Records are tied into that? Are they

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the same thing? Yeah,

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I mean, in fact, I've been going in the

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Akashic Records to ask questions. You can find

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out about you or

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you can ask these really beautiful metaphysical

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philosophical questions. My first love

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was philosophy. I went

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to undergrad and graduate school. I

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thought I was gonna be a professor. I was

13:35

at Tufts and I hated academia, but I

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love the topic. So I'd be going

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in the Akashic Records and asking, just

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these philosophical questions and I asked, what

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are the Akashic Records? And

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I wanna hear from them. It's not a very

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documented space. Edgar

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Cayce went in and he asked all

13:53

these questions about medical stuff, but not too many

13:56

people have done this sort of

13:58

broader conversation. And

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that's what I'm excited by and it's

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it's a grid. It's a grid of

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information that We

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are all interconnected within right so

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the Akashic Records is In

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again, everything is like something because I really

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don't think we have the vocabulary At

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this point in history to fully understand

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what this is I

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think we may at some point quantum physics

14:25

and all that seems to be I'm not

14:28

great with quantum physics But it seems to be picking

14:31

up on some of the same language But

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it's an it's an energetic space It's a

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set in a vibration and it's it's

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an endless grid that we're all interconnected

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in Where that exists

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and and all that is still to

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be I think figured out by some

14:46

brilliant scientists at some point Because

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I'm really lazy and brilliant scientists are expensive.

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I just asked Okay

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Just right now what what do you think

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it said? God, I

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don't know why there's so much out there

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about this Topic

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that I find not so great.

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So I'm curious tell me so

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number one. I'm pretty good at prompt engineering

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I I'm running something called the Apollo group

15:15

with fish and lackey on E and With

15:18

the vene Jane, so it's a very small

15:20

mastermind $100,000 mastermind

15:22

for for entrepreneurs who want to work with us directly

15:25

So we've done some AI training based

15:28

on vision's platform and so I've kind of gone

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deep on prompt engineering so I wrote the

15:32

right one, but I'm

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like, I don't care if you think it's not real. Tell

15:36

me the science anyway, and Here's

15:38

what it says and these are actually answers I probably would have

15:40

thought of and you would have thought of as well and for

15:42

our listeners I'm gonna run through some of these I want you

15:45

to to say these are good or bad and Can

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you go into the Akashic records and ask if these are right

15:49

or not? As

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we speak now, yeah, why not? It's

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a slow process. I know people want

15:57

me to do that

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but channeling is

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like an easy sort of

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flow. This is an

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hour to get a real good question answered.

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Yeah, we did a session ahead

16:13

of time because I basically want

16:15

to see if you're a full crap because I've

16:17

had a Kajuk readings from people who are 80% ego and 20% of

16:19

Kajuk and I've had some

16:21

from people who are really just tuning in and

16:23

new stuff they shouldn't know. And

16:27

it probably varies by day but I was like,

16:29

okay, you're the real deal and I have enough

16:31

of an experience to know the real deal versus

16:34

not. So what it says

16:36

is quantum entanglement and information

16:38

theory is one example,

16:41

which is the quantum mechanics thing and I would have

16:43

called out information theory and certainly quantum and you did.

16:46

The second one is the holographic principle,

16:49

the universe is information. Stan Groff

16:51

has been on the show who

16:53

wrote a book called the holographic

16:56

universe, I think or holotropic universe

16:58

maybe. Yeah, holographic I think. Yeah

17:00

and he's I've actually done breathing

17:02

up a breath work workshop, co-led

17:05

it with him and his team for

17:07

a group of my coaches. So the

17:09

idea there is that the universe is a hologram which means you

17:11

can have a tiny piece of it that contains the entire thing

17:14

if you just not look at it.

17:16

Then funny enough, Chachi B.D.

17:18

says collective unconsciousness and archetypes and Carl

17:20

called out Carl Jung, which we don't

17:23

talk about. It's quite listening. And

17:26

then it says theoretical physics and multiverse theory,

17:29

which a lot of people have heard of at least if you see

17:31

Dr. Strange. And then simulation hypothesis,

17:33

which Elon has talked about, I've talked

17:35

about it, Zuckerberg has talked about it,

17:37

you know, are we living in a

17:40

simulation? Have you ever asked the

17:42

Akashic masters and teachers whether

17:45

we're living in a simulation? Yeah,

17:47

I mean, I've asked all of these

17:49

things and it's tough because the

17:51

answer is pretty much that we're our

17:53

brains are just not quite there to

17:55

really understand the depths of it. If I'm

17:57

being honest, it's not a non judgmental space. ever

18:00

experience critique or judgment, and

18:03

there's no right or wrong kind of energy to it, but

18:06

they're definitely not impressed with the human

18:08

mind. And so they try to

18:11

give it to us in a way that at

18:13

this point in history we can comprehend it. For

18:15

sure, I've heard the holographic universe, for sure it's

18:17

been sort of a quantum experience,

18:20

but it's like that, it's always, it's like this,

18:22

it's like that, it's like this, and it's not

18:24

100% what it is that

18:26

we're saying to date. It's sort of like that.

18:29

So I'm working really hard to get it out

18:31

of the Akashic Records. I've been channeling it for

18:33

the last few months bit by bit

18:35

so I can get each part as clean as

18:37

I can, but it's taking

18:39

a lot of time. I mean

18:41

a lot of time. It's really

18:43

complicated, but yes, I have heard

18:46

those things. It's

18:49

interesting to put science behind it, and one thing

18:51

that impressed me with your work is you

18:54

went out and you got readings from different people to see if

18:56

they agreed, which is very

18:59

scientific. And I do the same thing. I

19:01

honestly think you shouldn't trust any psychic or

19:04

fortune teller or Akashic Records

19:06

reader unless you've validated them

19:08

and the way you validate is three

19:11

people all say the same thing and they don't know each

19:13

other. There's a great likelihood that it's

19:15

probably real. And the skeptics are going, yeah,

19:17

but they keep you like reading your pulse rate

19:19

and the dilation of your left eye and

19:21

yes, there are mentalists who do that stuff, but

19:23

those are the kind of questions you ask.

19:26

No, and Dave, honestly, I was telling some

19:28

friends, I want to move in a modern

19:30

minimalist department on the lake. That's

19:33

super random, right? And I don't even know why I

19:35

was saying it. I went into my first reading. This

19:37

lady looks at me, never seen her before. I told

19:40

like three friends that she asked me

19:42

my name. She reads some sentences. She goes in

19:44

my Akashic field and she goes, I see a

19:46

modern minimalist department on the lake. And

19:48

I mean, I was like, wait, what? And

19:51

it was like, come on, totally

19:53

random, totally random, right? And then I

19:55

the second thing I did, I was in New York

19:57

City and I bought this Tibetan bowl on the street.

20:00

in New York City. In the second reading, I

20:02

was in Manhattan. I bought it with my

20:04

partner. We were sitting there in a

20:07

hotel, just purchased the day

20:09

before. And the first thing she says is,

20:11

I see a Tibetan bowl. And I'm like,

20:13

what the fuck? And she starts talking about

20:15

this bowl and explains it in detail. So

20:17

it's like that all the time, all

20:19

the time. There's just, I told

20:21

this lady once in a reading, I was trying

20:23

to compare her mind to a tape

20:26

recorder. And I said, you know those tape

20:28

recorders, the ones that you got

20:31

in the basement in a desk in

20:33

a corner where you pull it out

20:35

and you push

20:37

the button and the tape is like that old school

20:39

tape and the reel is really worn down. I'm like,

20:41

the story you're telling yourself is like that. It's a

20:43

worn down. You got to just take that thing, put

20:45

it back in the basement, put it in a desk.

20:47

And she looks at me and says, you have no idea what

20:50

you just said. And I'm like, I don't, I've never met her.

20:52

And she said, yesterday, I found a tape recorder

20:55

in a desk in the corner in the basement.

20:57

I took it out. I showed my son that

20:59

I had this old eight track tape thing. And

21:01

then I put it back in the corner in

21:03

the basement in the cabinet. And I

21:05

mean, I don't think there's a reading that

21:08

happens where people aren't in this sort of

21:10

shock and awe around it. And

21:12

so it's definitely, listen, I have a lot

21:14

of things to do with my life. I

21:17

don't have an interest in Google searching. People

21:19

are looking for their eye twitches. I mean, that's a

21:21

waste of my time too. I'm

21:23

only doing this because it's really freaking cool.

21:25

And people are getting all this value and

21:27

I got value. And not only did I

21:29

go around the country and just call random

21:32

people, because that was such a pain in

21:34

the ass, I would literally try it

21:36

over and over and over. But then when I

21:38

started training people, I used the same question on

21:40

the first 200 people I trained

21:43

at asking the exact same question, random

21:45

people. And I got the same, I

21:47

mean, different metaphor, slightly different languaging, but

21:49

the same answer would come through over

21:51

and over because I

21:53

was skeptical. My dad's a world

21:56

famous physician. I didn't grow up

21:58

with a religion. This stuff was

22:01

not accessible

22:03

to me in a like, this makes

22:06

sense for me, or, or, I

22:08

don't know, I felt very fraudulent a lot thinking

22:10

about it. But it just has

22:12

proven to be so true so

22:14

many times that I was like,

22:16

you know what, it's really helpful to

22:18

my life. And it's

22:21

like this accelerator to

22:23

personal growth. So why would I not use

22:25

this? I mean, I don't get it. I

22:28

don't think anybody does. But who cares? Like,

22:30

I don't understand love exactly. Like, we don't

22:32

know why we fall in love. It's

22:35

a strange thing. I still think it's

22:37

worth participating in. And art, I mean, art's

22:39

sort of odd. Why do we care about

22:41

it? But I love it.

22:44

So it's worthy, right? I mean, not

22:46

everything has to be perfectly

22:48

logical to me all the time. So if

22:50

it if it has value, right, and this

22:52

does for me. Love

22:55

that perspective. You kind

22:57

of remind me of Julie Ryan, who has

23:00

been on the show as well. She's a

23:03

professional psychic, has a big radio show,

23:05

and we've been friends for

23:07

many years. And she has some

23:10

like seven or eight big patents in med tech

23:12

and was a very successful entrepreneur. Like, look, I

23:14

can do this. And I've been

23:16

to all kinds of people have these

23:18

things. A lot of them wouldn't talk

23:21

about it because well, throughout

23:23

most of most of recorded history, if you could do stuff

23:25

like this, they would burn you at the stake. Right.

23:29

So all the people around today,

23:31

who have these abilities, we've

23:33

kind of multi generationally learned to be a

23:35

little cautious about it. But

23:39

they honestly like I

23:42

was a healthcare tech entrepreneur, I built this

23:45

incredible system for chronic illness, I sat

23:47

with some of the best people on

23:49

the planet on different disease states. And

23:52

we came together from Stanford and Harvard and all

23:54

the to get the guidelines out

23:56

of these guys on diseases. It was not

23:59

black and white. It was not so

24:01

scientific. It was definitely a bit of an

24:03

art form to it all. It

24:05

was an awakening for me that science

24:07

is not as exacting as everybody would

24:09

like to think. It's true for

24:11

a period of time. Some of it is

24:14

very consistent. Sometimes it's a bit of a like,

24:18

and so I hear you on it

24:20

and it's not that

24:22

popular. When I started to do

24:25

this, I'm gay and

24:27

I came out in the 90s which was pretty

24:29

brutal. But honestly, coming out

24:31

as spiritual was way more uncomfortable.

24:34

I would go to my friends and I'm like, I

24:37

think I found this thing that I'm going

24:39

to start doing. Because if

24:41

it's not so proven, people seem

24:43

to have such an

24:45

emotional reaction. To be honest,

24:47

when I really shared this, I

24:50

found a lot of people were really

24:52

excited that I was willing to. Because

24:55

science doesn't always work for all

24:57

answers in life. Organized religion, people

25:00

are struggling within certain ways. I think if

25:02

you're not a die-hard of

25:04

those two things, there's this middle

25:07

ground world where I love science and

25:09

I like parts of religion, but I also like

25:11

to explore everything else. I think

25:13

a lot more people are like that, but

25:15

there's this strange feeling that you're not allowed

25:17

to just dabble around and have fun. Yeah.

25:22

The playfulness sometimes is missing. I'll

25:26

just say there's a lot of people that figure out

25:28

they can do some stuff. Then there's a lot of

25:30

different flavors of it and there's still a lot of,

25:33

I'm just going to call it skepticism and

25:35

doubt. You see people who

25:37

have a substantial amount of career attainment,

25:39

then they come out, even

25:41

come out as having

25:43

psychic powers, not the other coming out that you're

25:46

well familiar with. Even

25:48

what's his name? The

25:51

guy who did Waldorf schools, Rudolf

25:54

Steiner. He also invented

25:56

a major form of

25:58

regenerative ag called- biodynamic.

26:02

And he didn't talk about this stuff when he was

26:04

young. But he could see, he could

26:06

always see patterns of life and all. And he ended

26:08

up writing a lot of this stuff in his 40s.

26:10

He said, all right, fine, I'm ready. And just started

26:12

pouring out a major school of agriculture

26:14

based on seasonal cycles that no one else could

26:16

see in a way of raising kids to be

26:19

emotionally intact and all this stuff. And so if

26:21

you're listening to this going, what the heck Dave,

26:23

why are you talking about all this? I thought

26:25

you were a biohacker. I am. You turn

26:27

your mitochondria on all the way. You

26:30

edit the settings in your

26:32

operating system so you're not tweaked all the

26:35

time by dumb environmental variables. And

26:38

then you have all this energy left and

26:40

you focus it on stuff, you might be

26:42

surprised at what you can do. So I

26:44

like finding people who stumble onto this one

26:46

way or another, which is why I'm having

26:48

this interview. All right.

26:51

How long does it take to teach someone

26:53

to do this? Yeah,

26:56

I started this class. Well, I started teaching

26:58

people and then I couldn't

27:00

keep up anymore. So I started teaching it at the

27:02

little soul school and I have this class once a

27:04

month. It's 90 minutes. I

27:07

get everybody in the Akashic records in

27:09

90 minutes. Are you good at it? No.

27:13

Again, you're going to walk up to that piano.

27:15

You could touch those keys. It's

27:17

not music, right? It takes time. You've got

27:19

to practice the chords. You've got to put

27:21

the energy into it. And like I said,

27:24

there's some talent, but to actually just access

27:26

the space, I do

27:28

this monthly class for 90 minutes.

27:30

It's 20 bucks. I have a free one as well.

27:33

If you're super skeptical and you don't want to drop

27:35

the 20 bucks, you can come. For 20 bucks,

27:37

you learn to tap into the Akashic

27:39

records. Yeah. It's like one month of

27:42

chat GPT and you get lifetime access. Yeah.

27:45

Yeah. And if you want to try to... You

27:47

ever think of hiring someone from Google to help you

27:49

with the business model? It's 20 bucks

27:51

upfront and five bucks a month forever. Just because

27:53

it's me. Yeah.

28:02

I am laughing, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone out there

28:04

already thought of that, and I don't think you should do that.

28:07

No. No, I

28:09

mean, listen, I'm like a big fan of

28:11

entrepreneurship. I love it. But I

28:14

think the space has been there for thousands of years, and

28:16

it's not mine, right? And

28:18

I just want everybody to check it out. And

28:20

I know you're joking around. That would be a

28:22

joke. Totally. Totally. Like telling people,

28:24

hey, I'll let you keep breathing for only $5 a month.

28:26

That's right. I'm not going to be there, at least for

28:29

now, unless maybe one of the large

28:31

pharma companies has their way about it.

28:34

So for listeners,

28:36

it's Laura Ko, l-a-u-r-a-c-o-e.com. I have

28:39

not done her Akashic Records training,

28:41

so I cannot vouch or not

28:43

vouch for it. But

28:45

I have other ways I do it when I go

28:48

to 40 years' end. So I know of what she

28:50

speaks, but I have my own ways of getting there.

28:54

And I don't rely on them that frequently. In

28:57

fact, what I found is that I'm

29:00

capable of doing some

29:02

accounting tasks. I have a

29:04

degree in that stuff from Wharton. I just hate it. And

29:09

I don't hate doing Akashic Records, but I'm

29:11

not particularly skilled. I can build shelves. They

29:13

just might be a little crooked. So

29:17

I would rather have expert help in

29:19

building shelves. So I want to go

29:21

really deep on something. I'm happy to

29:23

call you or one of the other handfuls of people

29:25

that I know have a really tight beam access to

29:27

these things. And they're just more efficient because if you

29:30

go there all the time, you're going to be good

29:32

at it. It's like hiring

29:34

a backwoods tracker who lives in the backwoods versus

29:36

the guy who goes hunting three times a year.

29:38

Like, which one's going to know the terrain? I

29:41

feel like someone who does all the time is

29:43

good. Yeah. Yeah. What's

29:45

the craziest request you've ever received

29:47

to ask for the Akashic Records?

29:50

Or ask of the Akashic Records? I

29:55

mean, people

29:57

mostly ask the same question. questions, right?

29:59

What's my purpose? Why am I here?

30:02

How do I find love? Like most

30:04

people want to and what do I

30:06

heal, right? Like those are the things most people

30:08

are interested in. But my friend called me one

30:10

day and she's like, I lost my wallet. And

30:13

I was like, well, I'm so sorry to hear that.

30:15

And she said, well, can you open up my Akashic

30:17

records? I was like, I don't think

30:19

that's what this is for. I think this is really

30:21

about like growth and learning and I and I have

30:23

some reverence to it. So

30:26

anyways, she was desperate and

30:28

she's a good friend. So I was like, all right,

30:30

whatever. My friends for a

30:32

while were like, can you pop the records open every five

30:35

minutes once they got a taste, I could do this,

30:37

they wanted to ask me thousands of things. I was

30:39

like, we got to stop this. But at that point,

30:41

I was willing, I went in, I saw

30:44

this pile of clothing and I saw her

30:46

her wallet was stuffed in there and she grabbed the

30:48

clothing, put it in her hamper. And I was like,

30:50

I think it's in your hamper. But maybe I'm making

30:52

this up. I don't know. I don't think the

30:55

records store wallets. So anyways, um,

30:57

I said, you got to you got to really empty

30:59

out the hamper because it's stuffed in there. So

31:02

she doesn't call me back. And I think it

31:05

didn't work. Makes sense. Three hours

31:07

later, she calls me she's like, found my wallet. I'm like,

31:09

where was it? She said it was in my hamper exactly

31:11

where you said and I'm like, why did it take you

31:13

three hours? She's like, well, I didn't listen to

31:15

you. I didn't. I just

31:17

looked superficially and I emptied it out in frustration.

31:20

It was really stuffed in there. And then

31:22

my partner at the time heard of it.

31:25

She had lost her wallet, her credit card

31:27

and like a few days later and I'm

31:29

like, oh, come on. I'm not a party

31:31

trick. This is crazy. But I checked again

31:33

and her credit card was between the seat

31:35

and the glove compartment. And I'm

31:38

like, you got to move your chair forward. And she took

31:40

a photo, sent it to me, pushed her

31:42

chair forward and it was it was right

31:44

there. But that really got me thinking, Dave,

31:46

because that meant to me that

31:49

this space is not just some kind of

31:51

like list

31:54

of things that I'm aware of. Maybe some

31:56

way that like I'm tapping into people's

31:58

minds, their memories. They

32:00

didn't know it was there, right? Your

32:03

credit card falls out of your pocket in your car

32:05

You're not you're not aware of that

32:07

right this idea that every thought feeling

32:10

in action is stored Sort

32:12

of really settled in for me in

32:14

that moment, you know, you've got credit

32:16

cards. You got wallets You got everything

32:18

they talk about the book of life

32:20

in the Old Testament New Testament, right?

32:23

Like that there's this book of your

32:25

soul's life so it's

32:27

not a new idea, but It's

32:30

pretty mind-boggling to me to think

32:33

that there's Somewhere that all

32:35

this information can be can reside

32:37

and we can open that up

32:39

and find it It

32:41

it is mind-boggling and and certainly

32:44

just intuitively knowing where something is

32:46

is Called

32:48

a parlor trick, but it's something that people

32:50

with a just knowing this I

32:53

can have and and I've come to

32:55

believe over the years that a lot

32:59

of what gets us in trouble as human beings

33:01

is just that Our

33:03

biology our bodies we already know it but

33:06

then our brain convinces us that we don't

33:08

know it so we do it the hard

33:10

way because we learn to do it the hard way a long time

33:12

ago and So

33:15

there are times when you just know something and then you go nah

33:17

and Then ten hours later go Scott.

33:19

I didn't have to do that ten hours I have

33:22

to do that. So one of my my work in

33:24

last few years has been Around

33:26

overcoming my internal resistance to just getting it

33:28

done fast Yeah,

33:31

I mean right like what for a lot

33:33

of creative entrepreneurial people all that stuff It's

33:35

like we have these moments where it just

33:37

comes to you, right? You're like taking

33:39

a walk or you're trying to resolve

33:42

a problem and then you take some space or something

33:44

and then all of a sudden It hits you. What

33:46

are we saying? What does that even mean? There's it

33:48

all of a sudden just hit me It just came

33:50

to me. Well, it's usually when I'm in the shower

33:52

or going for a walk or something where I'm not

33:54

thinking as hard so if I'm using

33:56

my brain and I'm

33:58

I'm trying to get there and I'm

34:00

not getting there and then I relax and all of

34:03

a sudden it just shows up. Where

34:05

did it come from? Right? So it's

34:07

a definite conversation I have with

34:09

myself all the time about

34:12

trusting the intangible

34:16

experiences of life a little bit more. And

34:19

as I've learned to let go of my brain

34:21

being the only place that I consult for

34:23

information, I have definitely

34:25

quadrupled my productivity, my happiness,

34:28

the outcomes are better. There's

34:31

an incredible serendipitous quality to

34:33

my life when I let

34:35

that be true. Right? That

34:38

sort of, oh my God, I was just thinking about

34:40

you end to end, like has gone up and up

34:43

because I pay attention to it. I trust it a

34:45

little more and I let

34:47

myself follow it instead of like, you know,

34:49

I used to be a white knuckling, thinking

34:51

pro and con spreadsheet,

34:53

ask 50 friends, consult everybody

34:56

kind of person and it's just exhausting. Right?

34:59

Because how do you get to the

35:01

decision and the decision comes from somewhere else,

35:03

right? A deep within knowing or something like

35:05

that. Time to leave a relationship, time to

35:08

make a change, time to leave my job,

35:10

time to explore something new. We

35:13

have this knowing, right? That's how

35:15

we make decisions eventually. I mean,

35:17

some people always stressfully

35:20

use hyper,

35:24

tax the mind, but

35:26

it's an exhaustive process

35:28

because, you know, when

35:30

you weigh things, you think, well, there's this many on

35:33

this side and this many on this side, but it's

35:35

not really like that. I mean, some something

35:37

is a much more important thing

35:40

than the other 20 things. Sitting

35:43

around analyzing endlessly, it's

35:46

not clear like where to go and as

35:48

an entrepreneur, you have to trust your instincts,

35:50

you know? What does that mean? Trusting

35:53

my instincts is something again,

35:56

intangible. I

35:58

think this stuff has been there forever. forever.

36:01

Your intuition, your trusting

36:03

your gut, right? We have this. We

36:05

even say, oh my God, the party

36:07

was so fun until so and so

36:09

walked in the room. That person's energy

36:11

sucks. Or this building, I was like

36:13

at this party and the energy was

36:15

amazing until this and then, you

36:18

know, this happened and the energy was

36:20

terrible. We already have this experience, right?

36:22

Like we all know that guy or

36:24

that woman who walks in a space

36:26

and we can just feel how they

36:30

suck, right? They like bring the room

36:32

quote down. We say that stuff. So

36:35

what do we mean when we talk

36:37

in these ways? We have an intangible

36:39

understanding of it and it's okay

36:41

to me. I don't really know how to

36:43

language it because we don't have the science for

36:45

it, but I do believe in that

36:48

a lot more. I think the brain's great. I still

36:50

use it once I've come up with this intuitive

36:53

understanding or have that

36:56

gut feeling. I studied

36:58

authenticity for a decade before I got into the

37:00

Akashic realm. It's what I studied in grad school.

37:03

What does it mean to be authentic?

37:05

That's the weirdest idea ever. I check

37:07

in with myself to what is true

37:09

within me. Where? I mean, point to

37:11

it. We say mean,

37:13

we point to our chest. I'm not

37:16

in my chest. That makes no sense,

37:18

right? So all over our life, we

37:20

talk in these ways and this

37:22

is just a more organized

37:25

expression of that that

37:27

is consistent, reliable. You

37:30

don't have to meditate. You don't have

37:32

to go for a walk. I just

37:34

read some sentences and bam, I get

37:36

this megaphone

37:42

of authentic instinctual

37:45

advice that hits me

37:48

as absolutely true for

37:50

me every time. Why wouldn't you try

37:52

it at least just to see? If

37:55

it doesn't work for you, great. I'm

37:57

not here to sell my own stuff. Try it anywhere. I

38:01

find it extremely intriguing, yeah. What

38:04

are the things you can't ask? The things that don't work?

38:07

Yeah, it's easier

38:09

to say what doesn't

38:11

work because there's so much

38:13

you can ask. So you cannot ask about

38:16

right or wrong. People say, am I my

38:18

right path? That implies

38:20

there's a wrong path to life. Or is

38:22

this the right time to leave my partner?

38:25

The Akashic realm does not work off

38:27

of judgment. Right or wrong, shoulds. And

38:30

it's a little predictive of time, but

38:33

it's more the highest probability towards a

38:35

future outcome. It's not like 100% this

38:39

will happen at this time. So

38:41

those are really the only things you can't

38:43

ask. You

38:45

can even ask about people in your life.

38:47

Somebody once hired me. She

38:50

coaches people, and she wanted a deeper

38:52

insight into her clients. She just gave

38:54

me the first name of each client,

38:56

and I explained them down to the

38:58

last detail and what works for them,

39:00

what doesn't, what they're struggling with. She's

39:02

like, oh my God, you're on point

39:04

with each person. So you can go

39:07

almost anywhere except those areas. That

39:10

does not work at all. And it's for your

39:12

highest good in this moment. So I do wanna say it's a

39:16

lot of content in this Akashic

39:18

realm. So you are receiving

39:20

what it is that, you

39:22

know we think we need something, but in fact, we

39:26

need something else. Like you have a friend who's

39:29

always dating the same person or leaves a job

39:31

and takes the same job. They're just repeating themselves.

39:33

And they have this idea in their mind, like

39:35

you know that they just want the answer in

39:38

a certain way. The Akashic realm gives you what

39:40

is most valuable for you to move forward. Sometimes

39:42

it's not what you want to hear, right? You're

39:44

like, come on, just tell me what are

39:47

the next steps to opening my flower shop? Or

39:49

I just wanna like leave my partner,

39:51

just tell me this person sucks in these ways or

39:54

something. You can't push

39:56

into the Akashic realm. It gives you what is

39:59

true. truly most

40:01

valuable if you're willing to listen in

40:04

this moment in time. So there's some

40:06

nuance and interpretation, but you can't say,

40:08

when am I gonna die? What's the

40:10

best for this? What's the worst for that? But

40:13

you could frame it in a different way. Yeah,

40:17

yeah, you can say what's for my

40:19

highest good in this moment, what's not, yeah,

40:22

that kind of thing. Or if you're trying

40:24

to look at two employees to hire, you

40:27

could see, you could

40:30

say, well, which of these two employees,

40:34

if I hire them, it's gonna create the

40:37

best results for the company, or maybe best be a

40:39

problem. Say the highest and best, or you could say

40:41

the most money. And then it's likely

40:44

to give you the answer, right? You

40:46

know, they don't really specifically reply to money like

40:48

10,000 to 20,000, but they will say, how

40:53

is this most beneficial? Is this going to

40:55

help us grow? How could we accelerate, stuff

40:58

like that. So you can reframe the questions

41:00

pretty easily to get to, you

41:02

know, mostly the point you're looking for. What

41:05

about things like muscle testing? Couldn't you just

41:07

do a muscle testing thing so people use

41:09

finger strength or arm strength to

41:11

ask the same questions? Are we tapping into the same

41:13

field or is that different knowledge? There's

41:16

a lot of ways to access this field. I

41:19

have this one system, there's other systems out

41:21

there. I find this one really simple because

41:23

you just read a few sentences and it's

41:25

like good to go. You

41:28

don't need to do much, you don't have to touch people. But

41:30

yeah, absolutely. It's done

41:33

in many, many ways. Some people do it

41:35

through deep meditations, people do it through psychedelic

41:38

experiences. You know, it's been around a

41:40

long time. Hypnosis

41:43

has been a very popular way to

41:45

access this area. So

41:49

yeah, I mean, I don't know a lot about

41:51

muscle testing in terms of the Akashic

41:53

realm. So I'm not sure

41:55

how to answer on that specific one, but there's

41:57

other ways to get that. What are the few

41:59

sentences? Can you tell us just on the show? Sure.

42:03

Like, log in and do your free course.

42:05

But you guys should donate. loraco.com. Is

42:07

that something you can just show listeners right

42:09

now? Yeah. You want me to

42:11

just read it? Yeah. So what

42:13

do we do? Close our eyes, mumble

42:16

or something, and then we say this? You

42:18

don't even have to be that disciplined. Some

42:20

people say it in 20 seconds, super fast,

42:23

eyes open. Some people sit with it. No

42:25

trade. You have to jump on

42:27

one foot, spin around, open the four directions. None of

42:29

that? Nothing. It's

42:31

super easy. It's

42:33

just more of when you read

42:36

it, you have to know where the

42:38

subtle energy starts to show up. It's

42:40

a little bit new. It's a little

42:42

bit subtle. And so that's

42:44

more challenging than reading this. But

42:46

yeah, the sentence is we open ourselves to the light.

42:49

And with this light, we open ourselves to our truth. And

42:52

with this light, we open ourselves to our soul's

42:54

purpose. And with this light,

42:56

we open ourselves to be guided towards

42:58

our highest good and the highest

43:01

good of those we love. And

43:03

then like a cell phone, you have the

43:05

same cell phone, just different cell phone numbers.

43:08

With this, you just swap out the person's legal

43:10

name. And so I'd say, and

43:12

so Laura is given the truth to best

43:14

serve her on her healing journey into

43:16

the love and acceptance that is most beneficial

43:19

for her in this moment. I

43:21

say it two more times with my full legal

43:23

name silently to myself. So I won't do that.

43:26

And then after I say it silently with the full

43:28

legal name, I finish

43:30

with and with this light

43:32

and guidance, we unlock the energy field

43:34

of Laura to receive the record

43:36

of her soul. That's it. You're

43:39

done. You're in. And then when you're

43:41

finished asking questions, it helps

43:43

to get quiet. It helps to close your

43:45

eyes, to move the energy. It's

43:48

subtle. But then you read a

43:50

closing at the end, a couple of sentences

43:52

and you're done. Wow,

43:56

it seems pretty simple. So if you're listening to the

43:58

show, you can... You can

44:00

give it a try. Is listening

44:02

to some kind of good music going to help

44:04

like Metallica or something? Um

44:09

I again, um The

44:11

practice of getting good is you focus

44:13

on more of the top of your head your forehead

44:16

It's in this free key plan if you want to

44:18

check it out But once you find it, you

44:20

know when you're falling asleep at night Right

44:23

and and you lay down in your bed Let's

44:25

just say you were trying to talk to somebody

44:27

who's never fallen asleep Never

44:30

ever and you have to say what is

44:32

falling asleep quickly? What is I knocked out?

44:35

What is I was in and out of

44:37

sleep all night? I was in

44:39

a light sleep. I was in a heavy sleep I

44:42

woke up and then I went back to I

44:44

mean all of these things are things we understand

44:46

about the process of falling asleep The

44:48

akashic realm is a bit of a muscle.

44:50

It's like an experience that I can't Explain

44:53

you have to try it, but it's like

44:55

a heaviness And you find it

44:57

and once you find it you start

44:59

to learn how to speak using this This

45:04

energy this this feeling

45:06

and and it's pretty easy

45:08

after you kind of get comfortable knowing

45:12

That's where it is. And that's how I locate it

45:14

But that's the part that takes the time to be honest

45:16

because your ego gets in the way you say oh my

45:19

god Is it me? Oh my god. Is that me? Oh,

45:21

how do I know it's not me right like people will

45:23

get all stressed out about it So

45:25

the quicker you drop your ego and stop worrying

45:27

about it Like imagine going to sleep and every time

45:30

you start falling asleep, you're like am I asleep? Did

45:32

I really fall asleep with I am I sure I

45:34

fell asleep, right? I mean you just

45:36

go to sleep like you you lay in a little

45:38

ball and this weird thing happens where

45:40

you drift somewhere, right? It's

45:43

a pretty bizarre experience It's

45:47

so funny At 40

45:49

years has end when i'm teaching these these

45:51

altered states things The the

45:53

biggest thing of all if you pop into any

45:55

one of the new states Including

45:58

if you're seeing it past life you're doing a records

46:00

work or just go into the reset mode and to

46:02

go in kind of into your own operating system to

46:04

be less triggered by stuff. The

46:06

first time you get there, you're like, I did it. I did

46:08

it. And as soon as you say that you're out and like,

46:10

damn it. So it's really a big

46:13

challenge to learn how to be non-reactive to a

46:15

new state, to just be like, just

46:18

curiosity. And that was about

46:20

two weeks of 10 to 12 hours a

46:22

day of meditating with electrodes on my head

46:25

to figure that one out. And

46:27

now I can teach it much faster because we can even

46:29

tweak the system to do that. But it's

46:31

hard. And, but that just

46:33

deeply held curiosity about anything all the

46:35

time keeps from being afraid all the

46:37

time or overly excited because excitement and

46:39

fear, both will take you out

46:41

of the Akashic records and most of the

46:43

other exalted states that are possible for humans. Right.

46:47

That's right. And people say to me all the time,

46:49

like, Laura, I just want to learn to do it for myself.

46:52

I'm like, ah, cause it's a lot easier

46:54

to practice on somebody else. Cause the minute

46:56

I go in my own records, I get

46:58

excited that I see something

47:00

or I get fearful because my brain can't

47:03

help but react to some degree when it

47:05

sees something and then I pop out and

47:07

it's no longer a pure

47:09

experience. So it just takes some

47:12

time to learn how to

47:14

manage the brain to like,

47:16

just be non-reactive, not analyze,

47:19

to let the information flow and later

47:21

think about it. Yeah.

47:25

It's really funny when you're doing

47:27

deep healing work, like a qigong

47:30

or hands-on healing kind of stuff

47:33

or I mean, Joe Dispenza teaches this, some

47:35

of the traditional Chinese medicine things. If

47:38

you're working on healing another person, you usually get

47:40

healed too. Right. But just working

47:42

on healing yourself doesn't work as well. And

47:46

there's also how many

47:48

doctors do you know who have doctors? Right.

47:51

And we have this kind of egotistical physician

47:54

heal thyself. Well, it's

47:56

actually hard to do that. It's one of the reasons that

47:58

I mean, I, 25. years ago, I bought

48:00

a an EEG machine. So if there's

48:02

something going on, I can read my brainwaves, I'm gonna,

48:04

I'm gonna do this. And after a year

48:07

or two of playing around with that, like maybe

48:09

doing brain surgery on yourself is dumb. And sometimes

48:12

it takes more than one person to enter a

48:14

state, especially learn how to do it. And

48:16

service to others puts you in a flow state,

48:18

like it actually matters, it changes things. So I

48:20

would say, yeah, practice on someone else for almost

48:22

any of this stuff. And

48:25

there's also a bunch of data, like real proven data

48:27

from Lynn McTaggart, who's been a friend for years has

48:29

been on the show, talking

48:31

about what happens when there's a field with

48:33

two people in it, or ideally eight, you

48:36

can do stuff. So I look

48:38

at all those. And when people say it doesn't

48:41

work, I didn't get results. Well, there's a lot

48:43

of variables. But those are some variables that are

48:45

pretty well understood make a difference. Yeah, if you're

48:47

going to practice this practice, and on someone else.

48:50

Can you practice it on your dog? Yep.

48:54

Yes, we can do dog have its own Akashic

48:56

record as well. Dogs,

48:59

buildings, you want to hear a cool

49:01

story about my house? I didn't realize Akashic records

49:03

applied to fit because I know how to clear energies

49:05

and places and stuff. But okay, tell me about this.

49:07

This is new to me. Yeah,

49:10

so my brother and I built this

49:12

healthcare tech company. And part of it was we

49:14

built a 12,000 square foot building. When

49:16

we sold the company, the building was

49:19

still ours. And we were renting

49:21

it to LabCorp America. And their

49:24

lease was coming to an end. And we

49:26

had this building was on the Illinois Medical

49:28

District. Okay, so it was on this land

49:32

of this bureaucratic Illinois Medical District.

49:35

And so we had still a big chunk of

49:37

cash every month to cover for the mortgage. And

49:39

it was a bit stressful, we needed to sell

49:41

it. So the Illinois Medical District was

49:44

interested, and then they just weren't. And we

49:46

were freaking out. It's

49:48

a lab in the middle of Chicago, it's not an easy

49:50

thing to sell. So

49:54

I in desperation went in the records of

49:56

the building. And the

49:58

building energy

50:02

said I need to say goodbye to the building

50:04

because I built it and I was like, oh,

50:06

come on, right? Like this is seems silly. Anyways,

50:09

total desperation. I was like,

50:11

whatever, drove across the city,

50:13

did a little like moment. It was actually kind

50:15

of nice, right? Like we had a whole history and

50:17

experience with building it. And, you know, I was 24

50:20

when I started it. So

50:22

I tell my brother who is not interested

50:24

in this stuff, he got his MBA from

50:26

University of Chicago. He went on to like

50:29

build another company that went public. And I'm

50:31

like, dude, you got to go say goodbye

50:33

to the building. He's like, I'm absolutely not

50:35

doing that. So weeks are

50:37

going by. We're getting desperate.

50:40

And he's like, you know what, fine, forget it. So

50:43

he apparently on a Tuesday drove

50:46

over there. I didn't know that. I

50:49

look at my email and, you know,

50:51

the Illinois Medical District's bureaucratic system, they

50:53

have to get a whole team together

50:55

to start the process. We hadn't heard from them

50:57

in months. I get an email and

50:59

it says, hey, we were we met

51:01

today. We're ready to go. And

51:04

my brother sends me a note and says, I went

51:07

and said goodbye to the building a few hours ago. And

51:10

it happened on the same day. And

51:13

I said, dude, check your check your email. Right.

51:16

So I don't know. Again, you know,

51:18

I get it. I get the skeptics. I

51:20

get one story like that. It's like, maybe

51:23

it's true. Maybe it's not. I

51:25

just have thousands of these thousands and

51:27

thousands. People call me from all over

51:29

the planet and just give me

51:31

their name. And I can do

51:33

this anytime, any day of the week. So

51:36

so, yeah, the buildings have

51:38

energy. I needed to sell my house. And

51:41

so I got some insight into how to sell my

51:43

house. A friend of mine

51:45

was trying to buy a house and I helped

51:47

him think about the the deal, whether

51:51

it was a good deal, whether or not the the

51:55

investors he was going in on it with had

51:57

motivations that were aligned with him. So

52:01

you can ask a lot of really cool things. What's

52:04

the type of advice that you could get from the Akashic

52:06

Records on how to sell your house? They're

52:10

not giving you pricing, right? What

52:12

kind of stuff would you get? Yeah,

52:15

it was much more along

52:17

the lines of things like the

52:21

energy of the house and the kind of

52:23

buyer that would be most interested in it

52:27

because the Akashic runs about energy,

52:29

right? And

52:32

so it was around like, this

52:34

is houses energy. This is where I raised my

52:36

kid. It had good energy for a family. And

52:39

in the end of the day, a

52:41

family ended up purchasing it, right?

52:43

And also the price, it felt

52:47

a little bit high or that kind of thing.

52:50

You can ask about... Again,

52:52

they don't care if you make more money, but you

52:54

can ask in different ways to

52:56

sort of set the pricing the way

52:59

you need to and set

53:01

up the house in the way you need to or what have

53:03

you. Okay. So

53:05

they're going to be more color

53:07

it this way and move the couch and you'll sell

53:10

it kind of stuff, like very specific.

53:13

You know, Dave, people try to get black

53:16

and white answers. The challenge with the Akashic realm

53:18

is I don't think I've ever done two of

53:20

the exact same readings. Everything is

53:22

really unique. It's unique to that person,

53:24

that situation. I marvel

53:27

at how different

53:31

each experience really is. So

53:34

people want me to create a flow

53:36

chart of questions, but somebody's working on

53:38

forgiveness with their mother and it's a

53:41

whole subset of things going on that

53:43

it's just not for somebody who's learning

53:45

forgiveness with their brother. And

53:48

there's not like this sort of science

53:50

to moving through the Akashic field

53:52

or what you'll get. Every

53:55

time I go in, it's kind of

53:57

exciting because you see an experience different.

54:00

lessons or I see

54:03

new things, I learn new things.

54:05

But generally speaking, buildings, it's

54:07

not a lot. It's not like

54:10

a human. It's a smaller set

54:12

of information. It's more about the feeling of the

54:14

house, what you can do

54:16

to make it feel better, the kinds of people you can

54:18

attract to it. If it feels

54:20

like time to sell or not, why are

54:23

you selling, setting your intention so

54:25

that it will sell, stuff like that. Mm-hmm,

54:28

okay. It's

54:31

a fascinating area to explore.

54:34

And if you've

54:36

liked this episode, Laura has

54:38

a free training for you, loraco.com. And

54:41

she has a low cost training. We don't have any

54:43

financial deal or something. I did

54:46

ask her for a reading a couple

54:49

weeks ago just to see what she had to say. I

54:52

asked about some of the biohacks or some

54:54

things that could be holding me back. You've

54:58

probably heard me cough a time or two over

55:00

the years. I've had a cough for like

55:02

a decade that I know is tied

55:04

to mast cells and histamines. It gets worse than that.

55:06

But I'm trying to narrow in on all

55:08

the normal stuff. And it's like 90% gone, but

55:10

there's just a little bit that I can still

55:12

find. So Laura

55:14

was able to point me in some directions

55:16

that are very much along the, the

55:19

body keeps the score kind of answers. Where

55:22

would you look at doing the kind of stuff

55:24

that you go to when the normal stuff stops

55:26

working and just doesn't work? And

55:28

I find whenever I'm working with someone who's

55:30

doing really deep healing work, okay? We've got

55:32

lasers and lidocaine. And there's ways

55:35

to make it stop hurting. We can reduce toxins

55:37

and we can reduce nervous system inflammation. But at

55:39

the end of the day, you're gonna have to

55:41

deal with the trauma that caused you

55:43

to tense up there in the first place. So

55:47

just knowing some directional

55:49

things can be really helpful when you're going

55:51

after the little esoteric things

55:53

that you're working on. I

55:55

think you got something cool. And because you're

55:58

so credible, like I've done all this stuff and I don't have.

56:00

to do this. You know, guys, maybe

56:02

she's crazy, but there's a lot of people like her.

56:04

And I don't think they're all crazy.

56:06

And when a bunch of them will

56:08

say the same thing, and they don't know each other, maybe

56:11

the crazy person is the one who's not paying attention

56:14

to that. Yeah.

56:16

And listen, call me crazy. I'm comfortable with

56:18

that. I don't really care. Try it. You

56:21

know, if it sucks, it's not

56:23

for you. It's like meditation, right? Like

56:25

it's not for everybody. I think it's

56:27

amazing. Does it completely transform my life?

56:29

No. But does meditation make a substantial

56:31

difference in my health and well-being for

56:33

me? It does. Like I do yoga.

56:35

Yoga was teased like crazy. I mean,

56:38

I find the benefits are incredible. 30

56:40

years ago, it was

56:43

a kind of weird thing to be doing.

56:45

You know, and I'm trying to take the

56:47

woo woo out of the Akashic records. It's

56:49

not weird. It's not some mystical, strange thing.

56:51

You just read some sentences, try

56:53

it, you know, and if it's not your thing,

56:56

it's, it's, that's cool, you know, but I think

56:58

it's a fun experience. I think like two for

57:00

people who are like interested

57:03

in an authentic life, a life

57:05

where they have a knowing of

57:08

themselves, where they're curious about themselves,

57:10

they want to experience

57:12

a deeper relationship to themselves.

57:14

They want to heal, grow,

57:17

have an ability

57:19

for more happiness, more

57:21

joy, more peace, which

57:23

leads to more prosperity. This,

57:26

in my opinion, is one of the

57:28

fastest ways to get the information that

57:32

can really help you along

57:34

that path, right? It's not going to

57:36

stand alone, fix everything. You might have

57:38

to implement some things. You might work

57:40

with a therapist or coach with this

57:42

information, but it's, it's pretty deep

57:45

in the answers you receive.

57:49

It's funny when you say, well, just

57:51

try it and see if it works. You sound

57:53

like this other crazy person I know who was

57:56

saying, you should try putting some butter in that old

57:58

free coffee. The amount

58:00

of outrage from just try it and

58:03

see if it works. I

58:05

don't know why people get outraged by that because man, nothing

58:07

works. But the resistance, the

58:09

skepticism and all that, it's

58:11

just built into our human operating system. But because

58:14

seriously, you give it

58:16

a try. Or maybe if you're lazy, schedule a session

58:18

with an Akashic Records reader. I'm guessing you don't do

58:20

a lot of sessions. Do you do a lot of

58:22

sessions? You know what, Dave?

58:25

I was, but I did a podcast and I

58:27

got a 4,000 person wait list

58:29

going, it's like 10 years. So I

58:31

do train people. All the really talented

58:33

people aren't available. I'm with you there.

58:37

I have some trained people on my site.

58:40

And I didn't know try it,

58:42

brought up more skepticism. But yeah,

58:45

I mean, don't try it. I'm not a pusher. It's

58:48

just really like, I think it's awesome.

58:50

So I like to share it with other people who

58:52

are excited. Yeah. Well,

58:54

thank you for coming on the show. And

58:57

if you're listening to the show and you like this, let me

58:59

know in the comments. I'll put this up on Instagram, both on

59:01

the page for the show itself, which

59:03

is the Human Upgrade Podcast, or just on my

59:05

page. If you're not following me, let's cross a

59:07

million followers. By the time you see this, I

59:10

might already have crossed it. I always appreciate a

59:12

couple extra as we're pushing to go past a

59:14

million. And just

59:17

let me know if you want more of this kind of stuff. I'm

59:20

intrigued. I've been studying it for decades.

59:22

I just don't talk about it that much, because

59:24

frankly, in the early days of biohacking, if

59:27

I talked about more than I did,

59:30

earthing, red light therapy, whole body

59:32

vibration, and

59:34

the red light therapy pisses people off. And I

59:36

talked about ayahuasca and shamanism, just kind of as

59:39

little crumbs. And

59:41

I talk about discovering Bulletproof Coffee on the

59:43

side of Mount Kailash. It actually wasn't Bulletproof

59:45

Coffee. It was yak butter tea, but you

59:47

get the point. So like, guys,

59:49

I've been doing this for a long time. It's

59:51

just not that mainstream. And over

59:53

the next few years, I'm

59:56

taking the biohacking world into

59:59

more consciousness, enough of us now

1:00:01

that have working mitochondria, working nervous systems

1:00:03

who have the power and energy to

1:00:05

pay attention even when there's

1:00:07

distractions around and that lets you go deep. That's

1:00:10

why there's 40 years is then and you'll

1:00:13

see me talk more at the biohacking

1:00:16

conference coming up here, biohackingconference.com at

1:00:19

the end of May in Dallas. So

1:00:21

we'll talk about some of the more esoteric

1:00:23

masculine and feminine dynamics and

1:00:26

I'm just bringing in the spiritual teachers and

1:00:29

strangely when you talk to a health person who's

1:00:31

done it for 40 or 50 years, they're always

1:00:33

also a spiritual person because they come together as

1:00:35

you attain wisdom. So keep

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the show, pick up your danger copy. You'll

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feel amazing at danger copy.com. It

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truly hits you different than any other coffee you've

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and well, I have

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to say it, just try it. It might work. All

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right. Laura,

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thanks. That was super fun.

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