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Dave Aspirin today's and in person

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Austin, Texas which is the hum

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meets not the hum of that

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pea protein nonsense. And if you're

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from us and you eat that

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nonsense, you should go back to

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California. And

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yeah, oh I guess. We'll. Have

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my my guess today at would probably agree

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with me but doesn't our didn't talk about

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on on Instagram. I came up with said

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if you can be polarizing a game or

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ball after the a matter of and twenty

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thousand dollars away from a million followers on

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Instagram nine So and polarizing my ass off

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right now guys after you're not following if

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it isn't I'm almost. There are what other

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topics that we talk about today that you

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know the gun debate which we were ribery

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at one it turns out I have tested.

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This is really. Easy to hunt and impossible

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burger. Rages

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you put it up there and then

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you just take like marshmallows bigger marshmallows

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in and and you just like can't

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throw more of it and geared year

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ago hunter your hundred yeah the air

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was operating enough are doing be more

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Joji yeah I think I was. We

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have three companies have no have you

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can trigger happy. If

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you know recognize voice this is

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how L. Ron Author of America

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Morning A Long time friends. And

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he's here to announce that he's launching the

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miracle. Morning coffee is Nora, etc etc. I

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should be manaf I've left the only you

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know how much money have left on the

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table by not logging miracle More it off

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with your partner. Intercom into Sangre de of

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America morning. you might be dangerous Casinos What

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you might if. I'm

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just teasing as how is a devout

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with a when you call it's it's it's

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like like Christian and Nike no religious

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uber one thing in the of sadness

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on the outside you be like a

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satanist for the coffee religions of what

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with that because I'm so confused by

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question I. Or

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an eye on your heart a trigger just

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as this is prison yard athena. At

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so I would say he's a devout anti

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coffee guy. Are because you don't

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need a coffee and have miracle morning and

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I'm like screw actually not idea I drink

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coffee do I drink? yeah he's injured. My

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wife loves Danger coffee by the way I

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see ya got ya? It's by you say

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you don't need coffee like of read your

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book so I use I go through periods

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so high I was I'll go coffee them

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out greens he for years and then I

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don't know. Maybe six months ago I decided

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to go coffee No way down. This is

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great success or that for the human species.

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Yeah I'm really impressed as well as well

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as I did not know that your. And

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item out of by the guys. If you don't

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drink coffee, that's okay, it's it's on you To

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the said. He seems to say that for most

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people it's good. very bad at his office at

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a Sporting Greedy I said pick one segment, do

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something good at. But the reason House On is

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not into a coffee, It's because he has a

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brand new miracle morning. Or bugs

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and is updated expanded adds A

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because we've been friends for a

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long time. And. Size of

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you. Came on for your first miracle morning at in

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a couple times years ago. yeah we're both and us

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and we gotta sit down and going to some of

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the new content that you haven't share with world before.

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He of yeah that's absolutely. Or at.

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Some listeners may not know of your

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stuff. Other men: two million copies sold

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and you were just like the numbered

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Suva of all books sold. Like.

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you really just gonna huge wave of awareness

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of the last couple weeks yeah now was

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examined the go with the new book is

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like two or one of the goals is

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so it's us it was a self published

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book for eleven years so you can bite

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and stores and i've met with

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15 New York publishers since then

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and looking for like who's the right,

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you know, partner, publisher to bring this

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to the masses that buy their books at

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Target or Walmart or Barnes and Noble. And

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so yeah, so that was part of doing

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an update and expanded edition was let's make

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the book better, even better. And let's reach,

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you know, the way I always say it

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is 2 million copies sold, which means there's

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8 billion people that I have to spend

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my life trying to reach an impact

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with the message. Do you ever wake up in the

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morning and just say, I've only reached 2 million out

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of 8 billion, I'm a failure? Of

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course, that's human nature, right? You always look at

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the I call that gap focus in the book.

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But yeah, you're human nature to look at what you

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didn't get done. I've written eight

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books, I've really only sold about a million

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copies. I'm, I'm feeling really inferior right now.

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Yeah, no, you mean that's a little embarrassing.

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Yeah. So like your your author flex game

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is stronger than mine. You go. But you

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still way more coffee. Fair point.

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Speaking of flexes, I interviewed Brian Johnson recently,

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he's kind of running through that I spent

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$2 million to reverse my age playbook, one

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that I'm familiar with and that I appreciate. And

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so we can't compare to who could swallow the

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most pills at one time. And he

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looked at me like, dude, that's a weird flex, but

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kind of respect. And I just laughed. Wait, didn't you

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get my voice text about that? You voice

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texted me about that? Dude, I sent you a voice text

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like three days ago. And I said,

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Dave, what about when I see you,

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you and I have a contest to see who can

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swallow the most pills because I think that I can

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give you a run for your money. I don't know

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if I can be because that morning I was like,

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22 pills, no problem. One gulp. And

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and I was like, and that's why I literally write

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when I did that. I thought of you. Let's have

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a contest. Here's a problem. See the number of unread

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messages from inbox. Oh,

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you're I only have 380. So you're crushing me. 1432

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unread messages on inbox. And I will say for

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my friends who send me voice notes, you can't

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listen to a voice note when you're on a

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call or a video call. The voice notes the

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text are actually better. Listen to that. And then

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five days later. I still haven't listened to it because

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like when am I gonna do that? Yeah It's the

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question is who's lazy or the person sending the message

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that doesn't have the energy to type it Yeah,

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or the person on the receiving and it doesn't need you to

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listen to a voice sex, right? So, you know

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what I used to do I had a couple

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people who like abuse voice access one thing if

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you Like cuz it's like I want you

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to hear my voice cuz I really care about you man Another

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thing when they're just like blah blah blah blah. So

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I just go You

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know, it wasn't really clear. Could you record that again? And I

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was in my voice sex and I would do like five times.

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I'm gonna get frustrated That's great.

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Well, the thing is when you say abuse voice

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sex where my mind went was a one-minute

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voice sex got it Three

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minutes five minutes. Come on,

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you know, and then especially with details,

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right? They're like, oh, there's seven things I need to

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make sure that are really important that I get to

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you're like by the end of the voice sex Like

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I forgot what the last seven were and I I

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might do that when I'm working with my team or

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something because I'm driving somewhere but I also pay them

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to transcribe it and turn them into action items there

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you and Like it's

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kind of expensive to listen and transcribe unless

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there's an emotional content. So in

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the miracle morning Perspective.

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Yeah, when should you start listening

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to voice tech? Ask

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your miracle morning. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I can't incorporate

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them somehow Yeah, play on your phone after you've

7:18

done your miracle morning is ideal unless you're using

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the miracle morning app to be fair Okay, so

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it's funny. So we have a miracle morning app

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that you know people love but I don't use

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it Because I don't like apps

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for during my miracle morning. So it's really weird

7:31

conundrum to be like hey other people like it

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I actually don't use it. I actually so we

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can have this like big social why hell Elrod

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doesn't use his own app This is

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gonna be great. Got that Joey. We're terrible

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Like an affiliate link to that. I don't grab

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it. I'm just teasing. Yeah, but uh, yeah Well,

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we'll tell you blood like the app that hell

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I read won't use Recorded

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this is my app developer head of app

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development skinner. Hey that I said, you

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know what though it's the same thing I make

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a lot of tools for people that I don't need

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to use. Because I'm the one who made the

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tools, I already know all this stuff. So

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sometimes it's worth having

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it because my job is to

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make it so anyone listening or anything like that

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doesn't have to think, you just know what to

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do. You have to know mitochondrial biology, right?

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Because I spend all this time, you spend all this

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time honing your techniques. So if someone wake up,

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I turn on the app, I don't have to think about it, and I

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just did what it told me to do, and I got the results. Winning,

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but you don't need it, you're the pro. And that's it, I

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think that could be for anybody, right? So if you're new to

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the miracle morning, right? The app's like, oh, this makes it so

8:32

much easier, it holds me accountable, it facilitates miracle

8:34

morning, but maybe 15 years later,

8:36

like me, in thousands of miracle mornings, you're like, oh,

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I don't need it anymore, you know? Do

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you feel weird with people being accountable to an app?

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That's a good point, right? Little AI

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futuristic dystopian question there, right, or consideration,

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yeah, no. No, I will say actually,

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that is the one thing that I

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do use apps for is actually, and

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that was the initial miracle morning app was tracking

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the savers, the six practices, just checking them off

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and every day, making sure you're accountable. That is

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actually one thing that I will use it for,

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and I use another app called, I

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can't think the name, but it's where I've got

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like any habit that I want to either quit or

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begin, and every

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day, I've got like six habits, and so I'll be

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like, okay, I checked that off, like not drinking alcohol

9:17

right now. And that way I can track, right? Because

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it's really easy to go, I don't feel like I've

9:21

been drinking that much, right? But you

9:24

don't really know. But now it's

9:26

like there's a red mark or a green mark

9:29

if I did or didn't do the thing. Oh, I've seen that app, I

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tried it for like a day. And I

9:34

put on there like use the app, and the next day

9:36

I didn't. Yeah, so I actually like apps for accountability in

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that way, yeah. Now, here's a hard

9:40

question for you. This is totally not

9:42

what I was trying to talk to you about, but

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you're trying to chat with stuff about, to see how

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you think about stuff. So

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do you know Manish Sethi from

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Pavlok? No, I know

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Pavlok, I've heard of Pavlok. This must be

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like maybe eight or so years ago, early

9:56

days of the show. He

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reaches out, it's crazy. ADHD guy and

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he got to be somewhat famous because

10:03

he hired someone on Craigslist to come to

10:05

his house and slap him in the face every

10:07

time he used Facebook. So I don't know if

10:09

it was the dominators or just some random woman

10:11

who's like, it's better than bartending. And she's like,

10:13

just sit in his office and smack. Cause

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he found he was like unconsciously going to

10:17

the reach for it. And he

10:19

said, this is amazing. So he ended up starting this

10:21

watch and I did invest

10:23

like a very tiny amount of money. So guys, I'm not trying

10:26

to sell this. I haven't talked to

10:28

him in a while, but it's a watch that

10:30

shocks you every time you don't go to the

10:32

gym or every time you have a craving for

10:34

tobacco or whatever. And he

10:36

found like massive results from

10:38

negative reinforcement, especially for addiction

10:40

and for breaking habits. And

10:44

it was one of those things that I wouldn't have thought had

10:46

efficacy, but we all

10:49

focus on positive motivations, like affirmations, like all

10:51

the good stuff. But what is

10:53

the role, especially in an accountability partner? Isn't

10:55

an accountability partner just really about shame? Yeah,

10:58

there you go. I mean, like, oh, you said you didn't do it bad

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boy. Isn't that kind of?

11:03

I think it's both. I mean, like,

11:05

I know for me, and I think it was Tony

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Robbins that said, and I'm sure he didn't invent this, right?

11:09

But just the idea that we will do far more

11:11

to avoid pain than to gain pleasure, right? And

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so I utilize that a lot in my affirmations sometimes.

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I'll be like, not doing, here's

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the consequence of not doing this and getting

11:22

really present to that. You're like, I don't

11:24

want that to come true. Like the benefit

11:26

is this, like, okay, but if that benefit

11:28

isn't so compelling, right? That you're like, well, if

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I don't do it, I'm still okay. Versus if

11:33

I don't do it, oh, here's how this

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will compound into negative consequences that are, and

11:37

I'm not willing to accept that

11:39

future. So I've got to take action now.

11:43

Well, that seems like a fear-based thing, because it

11:45

looks like you're forecasting the future. What

11:47

was interesting about this other approach is that

11:49

it's real time pain. It's not like,

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oh, you know, I might lose my house five years from

11:53

now if I don't show up to work on time today.

11:56

It's literally shocking you in the moment. Yeah, and like,

11:59

let's face it, increasing. and penalties for crimes

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has never worked in studies because no

12:03

one thinks they'll get caught. So

12:05

a future pain that isn't guaranteed versus

12:08

the public, it's like it shocks you. If you don't

12:10

go to the gym and it's like an immediate thing

12:12

or if you do whatever. So

12:14

I had me thinking about

12:16

the whole accountability thing which works really well. You

12:18

need accountability to your miracle morning and you could

12:21

like have someone you do it with like a

12:23

partner or you have the app you're accountable to

12:25

but what if we wired the app in so

12:27

if you didn't do miracle morning it shocked you.

12:29

Would it work better? Yeah maybe we partner with

12:32

Pavlok and yeah I think there's some opportunity there.

12:35

The other Pavlok story which I'll get off them in a

12:37

second because a bit just randomly came up. Manish

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got on Shark Town.

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Okay. And actually got

12:45

an offer from Mr. Wonderful and he looks at

12:47

him and goes, oh I would take money from

12:49

any shark except for you. No way. He's totally

12:51

trash talk Mr. Wonderful. No way. And I

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don't know if this was because of ADHD or.

12:56

Just because. Tourette syndrome. He's just really good

12:58

at marketing because that clip because Mr. Wonderful

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is like F you get off the stage

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and like really so of course

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that got tens of millions of views. No way. So

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either it was like the most masterful PR move or

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just like a brain that was like. Yeah.

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So Manish if you're listening. What's interesting about it if

13:14

it was a masterful PR move the beauty of it

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is he gave away no equity and sold more of

13:18

his product like genius. It was either

13:20

genius or crazy. So in other words you need advice from him

13:23

on how to be more polarizing because yours was a

13:25

little bit softer in the beginning and.

13:28

He can give you some tips. So listeners

13:30

if you would when you see this this

13:32

on Instagram or TikTok or wherever I put

13:34

it. If you could tell

13:36

me what to be more polarizing about. I

13:39

would appreciate that because you know I've really worked

13:41

on this and I'm mostly just so peaceful. I

13:43

just like to play with vegan because I was

13:45

one. Yeah. Yeah. As an act

13:47

of service but it's not like mean I don't want

13:49

to be like negatively polarizing. I just want to be

13:52

like playfully polarizing. Yeah. I used to be a

13:54

vegan too. Me too man. Yeah

13:56

for many years. I'm sure you're a vegan.

13:58

Honestly I read an article. I forgot, I

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don't know if his buddy sent it to me or what, but about

14:02

B12 and how you virtue,

14:05

it's almost impossible to get vitamin

14:08

B12 in a vegan diet. It's

14:10

like nutritional yeast. There's like two things, right?

14:12

And that was immediate. For me, I looked

14:14

toward nature for the answers and

14:16

I went, oh, how can this

14:18

be the quote unquote proper, correct

14:20

ideal diet that nature or God

14:22

intended if it's missing a

14:25

vital nutrient? And I'm like, where'd you

14:27

be 12? It's like, oh, animal meat.

14:29

Okay. And then I went

14:31

back. Wow. So you were just very rational about it.

14:33

Yeah. Yeah. I

14:35

was devout. I had like juicers and sprouters and all that night.

14:38

I was hungry all the time. I got cold all the

14:40

time. My Hashimoto's got worse. A lot

14:43

of other aches and pains

14:45

from oxalate or oxalic acid building

14:47

up in my tissues and finally started cracking teeth from

14:49

mineral deficiencies. Literally, I had two of them shatter. Wow.

14:53

And like, maybe this isn't working. Yeah.

14:56

I think I would have hung on to it, but I

14:58

went to Tibet. I'm not eating like raw yak meat in

15:00

the middle of nowhere that's been hanging on a post blowing

15:02

in the wind. Like that's just not, I

15:04

think I'll cook it for you. Yeah. So

15:07

yeah, I felt better. What's interesting is I'm actually

15:09

organic vegan by day and paleo by night. Like

15:11

that's the best way I could categorize

15:13

it. Interesting. Meaning, so

15:15

I start the day with a raw

15:18

vegan smoothie. Right. And

15:20

it's got organic walnuts, organic Brazil nuts for

15:22

selenium, you know, organic, what are

15:25

the little tiny, chia also hemp seeds. So

15:30

chia seeds, hemp seeds. It's got a lot

15:32

of protein and good fats. And

15:35

then some, you know, a few berries and such. And

15:38

then for lunch, I have an organic vegan salad. And

15:41

then for dinner, I have whatever my wife

15:43

makes, which last night was like beef tips

15:45

and potatoes. Interesting. Okay. So

15:47

to me, I have more energy throughout the day. So

15:50

that raw vegan, you know, lots of enzymes,

15:52

lots of, you know, getting the energy from

15:55

the food. I still subscribe to that, but

15:57

I learned at a Tony Robbins event in 2000. You

16:00

guys have a Tony on the vegan diet. I know

16:02

he went off. It made him really sick So he

16:04

started eating a lot of fish but and I made

16:06

him think I didn't do the research and like swordfish

16:08

is the most polluted Yeah, yeah, I think he's back

16:11

to eating normal foods now. Yeah, no for me I

16:13

find I feel the best when I like it a

16:15

day What did I have for lunch? I ate because

16:17

it was a was a holiday And so I had

16:19

some solid food some heavy cooked food for lunch and

16:21

I was like food coma So I find

16:23

that when I eat raw vegan, I have more energy but

16:25

then I want the nutrients from the meat so that I

16:28

say for the evening and then I Gonna

16:30

tie her out for the cat on the couch. Yeah, I

16:33

tried eating some raw vegans recently But this

16:35

one's a beef sashimi is not that nice.

16:38

So I I decided to cook my vegans

16:43

Okay, so cows eat cows milk right but

16:46

we so here's the question is human milk

16:48

vegan oh Yeah,

16:50

that's a good point. I don't know. I will say cows milk

16:52

is something that I that like I often

16:54

That's where I could get polarizing which is I'm

16:56

like that's for that's for baby calves That's

16:59

the only Animal

17:02

that that milk was designed for you

17:04

know, and I always who was it? There was a

17:06

stand-up comedian that goes I

17:09

bet the first guy that tried cows milk did a

17:11

lot of other weird shit before that It's

17:17

funny because just on a Pound

17:19

for pound basis. It's like one of

17:21

our most affordable sources of protein It's

17:24

just that we've done bad things to cows so

17:26

that the protein is the wrong form for us

17:28

Yeah, if you go back to the a to

17:30

raw grass-fed stuff, I think there's an argument

17:33

that if you're not allergic It's probably good for you just

17:35

because you need that kind of fat and

17:37

you need that much protein But it's

17:39

such a problem for people. Yeah because allergies

17:41

so I do sheep's milk And I I

17:43

don't mind that cuz I've having run a

17:46

small farm at a 32 acre farm Oh,

17:48

that's right And we raise cows

17:50

and pigs and sheep and chickens Right,

17:52

and I will tell you pigs are very

17:55

happy for all the milk they can go.

17:57

Yeah. Yeah, they love it Anything that's fat

17:59

chickens do Oh, yeah, they will they

18:01

will literally like fight each other for any piece

18:03

of meat or dairy And you give

18:05

them like the corn and all and they're like across

18:08

vegan. They just want the meat They just can't get

18:10

enough of it I remember that I saw a post

18:12

from you or back when you

18:14

were doing like Instagram or showing you doing not

18:16

you're like Hey, I'm feeding the chickens a bunch

18:18

of meat This is what they're like, so we

18:20

have 25 chickens and we have two sheep for

18:22

milk Love it, but we're about to get them

18:24

pregnant from one of Tucker's sheep. So

18:26

they haven't produced milk yet They're

18:28

not old enough right and so on but

18:31

I think I think this spring is when my wife's

18:33

gonna impregnate them and We're gonna start having sheeps milk.

18:35

So I'll bring you what flavor of sheep are they?

18:38

They're an African breed. Oh one looks

18:40

like a deer one looks like a

18:42

goat Wow, and so we either either

18:45

I've joked. I'm like either we were just lied to

18:48

and told oh, yeah, they're sheep. They're there this African

18:50

breed You can't even find them online. They're antelope. Yeah.

18:52

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they're goats But we were told

18:54

they were sheep we bought him his sheep Wow We

18:57

had baby doll sheep. That was our favorite or shop

18:59

sharing baby. Oh baby dolls think they're dogs. They're just

19:01

so nice Oh, yeah, even the males only occasionally had

19:04

about you So they're

19:06

just a little bit more manageable. But yeah, man,

19:08

bring me some sheeps milk. I'm all over that

19:10

Yeah, Oh I found sheep butter for the first

19:12

time It

19:14

smells like feta, but it's butter and I'm kind of liking

19:16

that. I haven't had sheeps not yet I don't think I've

19:18

ever had it but we'll I've never had just milk. I

19:20

just the over in the cheese Oh, okay. It's one of

19:22

those things where I think in the US we're gonna see

19:24

a lot more people sheep and goats if

19:27

you look back to like the 1930s when we had the

19:31

The Great Depression and the Dust

19:33

Bowl and all that. Yeah, largely

19:35

caused by Rockefeller's interference with our

19:38

society Yeah, screw you Rockefeller. Anyway,

19:40

when you look back at the history of that Wow,

19:43

like one guy did a lot of evil Oh, yeah,

19:45

well that's happening in New York. There's pictures of every

19:47

balcony has a little goat on it No way if

19:49

you look even all their scraps to the goat to

19:51

get the milk from the goat Wow, right? This

19:53

is one of those things where this is gonna be I think

19:55

a lean year we just had a massive freeze It's

19:58

gonna there'll be less food for the animals. More than

20:00

some kind people either big food companies

20:02

or maybe some other countries intelligence agency

20:04

has gone through and blown up or

20:06

dairy meet an egg production across the

20:09

country. That's all a coincidence you conspiracy

20:11

theorists. Thousands and thousands of than that

20:13

happened in order. Moving across the country

20:15

I was like a small group was

20:17

movie or. Yeah,

20:19

there's odds something I can't say I know

20:22

who's doing it I guess so sums wrong

20:24

but that's why existence of that's why meet

20:26

expensive and they're trying to make me like

20:28

because of a focus. Pr campaign or

20:31

yeah, just tell you, What?

20:33

They haven't figured out. is that big food

20:35

company executives and politicians are made of meat.

20:37

And a sizable percentage of Americans will

20:40

not eat crickets and soy. So if

20:42

there's no Cassie, they're gonna go for

20:44

the execs. This is our existence of

20:46

logic I got has the means Olivia

20:48

Ah, you know I was impressed by

20:51

your i'm not advocating that of was

20:53

you're thinking of their oh yeah yeah,

20:55

that's pretty dark their idiom plan it

20:57

out My mind that was for sure

21:00

some subliminal I'm Dave Asprey. Mine trickery

21:02

and triggered by now. As

21:05

earnest say, whether or not going to

21:07

talk about Miracle morning, I'm here to

21:09

get in trouble. So. You're. Kind

21:11

of throw. At. Overcoming. And

21:15

Avenue and I both is some things, but

21:17

you face some near death things. A.

21:20

Bus with a car accident when you're younger and

21:22

more recently was a pretty serious bowel cancer. so

21:24

walk me through that. For listeners, you haven't really

21:27

heard the house story. Yeah, so I when I

21:29

was twenty years old I I was driving home

21:31

from giving a speech at a conference and hit

21:33

head on by a drunk driver emails. An hour

21:35

on my car spun off the drunk driver in

21:38

the car. I mean. Does not

21:40

tell them you keep only are at seventy

21:42

miles an hour and the left side of

21:44

my body was just crossed. I broke eleven

21:46

bones instantaneously. my femur broke into pieces, my

21:48

pelvis broken three places, I arm broke in

21:50

half or my elbow shattered, my eye socket

21:53

shattered, and I was found dead. at the

21:55

See I I. I was clinically dead for

21:57

approximately six minutes are airlifted your hospital. They

21:59

were of. If me on a helicopter have

22:01

brought back to life flatline twice more while

22:03

I was in a coma for six days

22:05

and in commodity com with soy would never

22:07

walk again. And I'd permanent brain damage.

22:10

That was my first bout with death if you

22:12

will, and then odd. Seven years ago and I

22:14

was thirty seven years old. I was

22:17

times they were aggressive form of cancer, acute

22:19

lymphoblastic leukemia and this is way more difficult

22:21

because the lawnmowers. ah I was going to

22:23

twenty to thirty percent chance of surviving. but

22:25

the difference was now I had kids, I

22:28

had a seven year old daughter and a

22:30

four year old son and on. and to

22:32

be told that there was a you know

22:34

a twenty to thirty percent chance of living

22:36

means there's a seventy to eighty percent chance

22:38

that you're going to die So nobody the

22:41

hospital I've heard cancer co my heart was

22:43

feelings, my lung was feeling and my kidneys

22:45

were feeling. We talked like. A week or

22:47

two before he got diagnosed as we rode

22:49

to an airport together. yeah and I serving

22:52

a man like your graves exams wrong and

22:54

know I can use is kind of feel

22:56

like you're just barely put one foot from

22:58

the other thing for not same night as

23:01

I dislike us a big night of a

23:03

retired I was like that the says like

23:05

depleted terminology policy that the odds are really

23:07

good honestly that it's area your is your

23:10

is when you're opposed the source excites as

23:12

that you're out drinking of know that you're

23:14

talking John Gray always good to have. Been

23:16

mans like ten years. So.

23:19

I am. So I remember that the Changing Energy

23:22

to zero real high energy guy and I was

23:24

calling him a must be like why stress. By.

23:26

On. If

23:28

he could go back now and can look

23:30

at it with the wisdom. And.

23:33

Winners. Of her son, he knew something was wrong with the

23:35

cancer. I. Did not work so

23:37

I woke up one morning. I like to

23:40

in the morning and. A

23:42

struggle. To struggling

23:44

to breathe And are you know my wife

23:46

woke up here me wheeze and and are

23:48

you surprised like can I can breathe

23:50

and she says we have all these pillows

23:53

by my back in the next day when

23:55

into your ah and urgent care and they

23:57

are they they they miss me. They

23:59

said the mouse on my lawn and they went.

24:02

it looks like that been little. The doctors tone

24:04

was it. Looks like you have

24:06

them monier, but. If.

24:08

You don't get better and a few days go

24:10

get a second opinion. He was very unsure and

24:12

the gimme a z pack of antibiotics and every

24:14

day I was breathing less and less and less

24:17

and I spent the next week or and a

24:19

half in the yard every other day. my long

24:21

was drained of about a leader and half of

24:23

fluids and it was still backup. Drain it again.

24:25

still backup. Drain it again and no one was

24:27

wrong for now. this image of this other hospital

24:29

in Austin St David's and they trusted me and

24:31

they said. You. Have it looks

24:34

like of cancer but what? You get a second

24:36

opinion or go to India Anderson Cancer Hospital And

24:38

so I went in. The national doctor said. You've.

24:40

Got a twenty to thirty percent survival

24:43

rate if you don't start. Seat?

24:45

No sorry. You're. Going to die in the

24:47

next week or two if you don't start chemo to

24:49

send the best marking ever isn't just or nothing of

24:51

I thought he was so I I I was like

24:54

I don't feel like I don't trust me. You're saying

24:56

if is so I said let me go do my

24:58

own ah as as imagine to stave. So here's here's

25:00

we saw me get to take his. Food.

25:03

You Chemo when you're gonna die in a week or two. Do.

25:05

Chemo and there's only a twenty to thirty

25:07

percent chance that you're going to live. And

25:10

really going to financial advisor that's like hey, gimme

25:12

all your money and trusted with your life savings

25:14

and. I'm only gonna lose it. Eighty

25:16

percent of them is industry yeah. And so

25:18

I went home and I googled best holistic

25:20

on colleges in the country and I called

25:22

a couple of them and they both said.

25:25

Chemo. Is your best bet? This cancer that

25:27

you have is so aggressive and fast acting your

25:29

your organs are already feeling. Your. Daughter

25:31

was not actually. Lying to you

25:33

that you're going to die in a week or two?

25:35

Nothing we can do some. I got the best holistic

25:37

on poses and country can help me. Dammit.

25:39

What am I gonna do a rigid

25:42

the right thing and that something for

25:44

if for listeners cause there is no

25:46

moral judgment on pharmaceutical Cima radiation cancer

25:48

for for it or even is highly

25:50

processed food. The only thing that matters

25:53

is where are you know what's your

25:55

goal and what are the tools and

25:57

where the risks and rewards. And there's

25:59

as. Double number cancers were ha

26:01

for that kind of cancer. All the

26:03

things we have say. Chemo.

26:05

Really works And maybe you should also stack

26:08

it was acupuncture and aspiration and that's why

26:10

did I did? I did every holistic practice

26:12

known to man in conjunction. coffee enemas three

26:14

days a week as it's seventy supplements a

26:16

day, lymphatic massage, acupuncture, ozone sauna, you name

26:18

it. Etti up the biggest masses brother for

26:20

me listening. Do not trust a doctor with

26:22

your life says your number. They have very

26:24

little Skyn in the game a bit. They

26:26

lose patience. Big deal. No one's going to

26:28

take responsibly for your life other than you.

26:30

And that was that. The mice and men

26:32

that the ducks as I know they they

26:34

feel name is someone. Yeah, just as if

26:36

they're your regular doctor. You just coming in

26:38

for a specialist thing sir. But no, no

26:40

doctor likes to lose people but the Euro.

26:42

they don't have said the same skin in

26:44

the game. And they're trained to

26:47

towards and. On my very my second

26:49

visit that the doctor michael how to chemo. I.

26:51

Asked in college as I said hey just I

26:53

and this was my tests for him. I.

26:56

Said what part does diet play in

26:58

my recovery. And he said it

27:00

doesn't matter as long as you to the chemo. As

27:02

an almost how can I must stupid right? And

27:05

so and I was so angry. Not for me.

27:07

But. When I would go to the cafeteria

27:09

and see his other patients dragging their ivy

27:11

chemo towel around eating pizza and ice cream

27:14

and take in soda and just so angry

27:16

with the system that we're right on my

27:18

my can see the bottom iceman. You're telling

27:20

that person doesn't know any better Moon and

27:22

that's where I actually felt a sense responsibility

27:25

that. I owe it. To.

27:27

To the world to beat this cancer so that

27:29

I didn't have other people on their healing

27:31

journey that might not be blessed with the knowledge

27:33

and the resources that. I've been. fortunate because I

27:36

listen to Dave ask for his books to

27:38

come across. There's very good evidence that most cancer.

27:40

Is highly sensitive sense when and

27:42

Lucas and yeah right. So if

27:44

you know kind of cancer out

27:46

then may be controlling sugar intake

27:48

would be really useful right? and.

27:51

For. Doctors they? we don't know. That.

27:53

There's this weird mindset. I once asked his

27:55

archer i remember medical purposes a while ago.

27:58

Your. age i can taking whatever vitamin

28:00

C or zinc or something. Do you think there's any reason that

28:02

I should, you know, pay attention to that? Because, no, no, don't

28:04

take it. I go, why? He goes, well, there's

28:06

no studies of that. And I looked

28:08

at him and I said, there's no studies of

28:11

lotion with that. And you're saying

28:13

I could use lotion, right? And he just stops and looks at

28:15

me and goes, that's a good

28:17

point. He goes, I really don't see any reason

28:19

you couldn't. He's like, oh, thanks, that's the opinion I wanted. But

28:22

the default to never giving an opinion without

28:24

a study is handing your balls to big

28:26

pharma. Yep, that's it. I know that there's

28:28

tens of thousands of functional and even nonfunctional

28:30

doctors, just Western doctors who listen to the

28:33

show, sometimes they hate on me, but

28:35

quite often, just because I think differently because I'm a

28:37

computer hacker, right? And guys, you know, you're medical professionals,

28:39

I'm not. So I have a lot

28:41

of respect. Like if my bones broken, I don't know,

28:43

I don't have any idea what, I don't know physiology,

28:45

I don't know mitochondrial biology. So

28:47

I look

28:50

at that stuff and they're listening to this.

28:53

Yes, you have to take

28:55

into that stuff that you're probably not trained in.

28:57

And if you do it, then you

28:59

say, well, I'm

29:02

unaware of any evidence, but given what we

29:04

know mechanistically, here's what I think is the

29:06

best bet. And what that leads

29:08

to is, well, it's

29:11

okay to move forward, make a decision

29:14

and be wrong. And

29:17

part of the cause of insurance and because of attorneys,

29:21

it's like the status quo, which is

29:23

shitty, is the safest alternative for

29:25

them, but the worst alternative for

29:27

you and me. And I think in functional

29:30

medicine, people think a little bit differently,

29:32

and then it's always a struggle with insurance companies. But

29:34

I gotta ask you something, that you've

29:36

been through this whole process twice now. I

29:40

was just reflecting with a friend recently, an

29:42

absurd number of my friends have died

29:44

and come back or been struck by

29:47

lightning, like an absurd number. So maybe you

29:49

guys don't wanna be my friend. Although

29:51

it usually happens before I know them. So

29:55

when you died, do you think you

29:57

woke up with superpowers or with a different awareness

29:59

of things? Did you get downloaded

30:01

with alien malware or anything like that? Interesting.

30:04

Well, I mean, I do feel, you

30:06

know, I've done, whether

30:09

it's through deep meditations or plant medicine sessions

30:11

where I'm really feeling connected

30:13

to God, the source and

30:16

getting the message that you're on a very

30:18

specific journey. And I've put you

30:20

through these things while giving you every resource you

30:22

needed to be able to overcome them. So you

30:24

can keep paying it forward and helping other people.

30:26

So I've like, I've gotten that in every fire

30:29

of my being. And so during the superpower, I

30:31

think we all have a superpower for me. It's

30:33

been being able to get through these adversities in

30:36

a way where I extract as much value

30:38

to then share it with others. So

30:40

you're a highly resilient person. It's interesting.

30:44

I interviewed Kimble Musk, like in his

30:46

kitchen, you're cooking steaks. And

30:48

I made a joke about DMT sauce. DMT

30:51

is the active ingredient in ayahuasca. It's a hallucinogen

30:53

for the steaks. And you started laughing. I kind

30:55

of talked about it. And

30:58

he said, Oh yeah, I've done DMT. He said, but

31:00

I didn't, I didn't really need to, because

31:02

he also had a near death experience. He broke

31:05

his neck, was unconscious for three days, almost died when

31:07

he was, I think 36. And

31:10

so he said during that time I met God. So

31:13

when he was on DMT, he's like, been

31:16

here. Did you have that kind

31:18

of experience with either one of these? Because

31:22

of the brain damage I suffered from the

31:24

head on collision. So my frontal orbital lobe

31:26

was completely smashed in the front of my

31:28

skull at 70 miles an hour, eight miles

31:30

an hour. So I have

31:32

no memory of the time that I was

31:34

dead, nor two weeks

31:37

after. I have very little

31:39

memory yesterday. I mean, the brain damage I suffered from that.

31:41

So yeah, so I have no recollection. For

31:43

me, it's just more of an internal knowing, which

31:45

in some ways is more powerful than like, I

31:47

saw a light versus like, I have

31:49

this, to me, this inner just

31:53

conviction that I'm supposed to help as many people as

31:55

I can. This

31:58

is a question, man, I've all the school stuff. based on your book,

32:00

we're gonna get some of the stuff. But I

32:02

gotta ask you all the hard questions. So

32:04

I've had a chance at 40 years as

32:07

in my neurofeedback company. It's

32:09

in part like a digital mystery

32:11

school, you could say. Like a recent person

32:13

came out like, it's like the best plant

32:15

medicine ceremony I ever had, but without the

32:17

plants. Because you kind of trip

32:19

on things like this. And when

32:21

I'm working with these like high level spiritual

32:24

guru type of people, a lot of them

32:26

say what you just said. They

32:28

say, okay, I wanna help everyone. But

32:31

most of them, when you get

32:33

right down to it and they're being vulnerable, because

32:36

when you do the ego work, you become vulnerable. They're

32:40

exhausted. Because like they'll walk into

32:42

a room and like,

32:44

okay, I have to help everyone. And

32:46

they get caregiver fatigue, but on the scope, on

32:49

the range, the scale of millions of people. And

32:52

as I kind of work on it, I'm certainly

32:54

just like, I'm gonna help everyone who wants help.

32:57

But there's a difference between helping everyone and

33:00

everyone who wants help. Or checking

33:02

in with your guidance or higher power or masters,

33:04

whatever lineage you're with, and saying, am

33:07

I supposed to help this person? Like maybe that person

33:09

chose suffering and they haven't got their own journey. Sure.

33:12

And if I flip the switch for them, they're not gonna get the message. So

33:15

I've kind of modulated my thing. So even

33:17

when Tony Robbins like, I'm gonna feed a

33:20

billion people, like what if the

33:22

billion people don't wanna eat or they

33:24

don't wanna eat what you're feeding them? Yeah. And

33:26

it's like, there's some sort of

33:29

energetic difference between, I'm gonna

33:31

do X for a billion people, and

33:33

I'm gonna do X for the people who

33:36

would benefit or the people who want it. Do you

33:38

have a differentiation in your mind about that? Yeah, I

33:40

think that for me, the

33:44

way that I go about the miracle morning is,

33:46

I just do podcasts like this, I give speeches,

33:48

I just am sharing it. And so to me,

33:51

the people that are attracted to it are gonna do it and

33:53

the people that write. So yeah, so there's no one that I'm,

33:57

I need to convince this person, you know.

34:00

Yeah, you know you needed it's like look either

34:02

you resonate with the message or not and I'm

34:04

very aware of like, you know So my message

34:06

or like I'll say that I have 8 billion

34:08

people to share with the miracle morning I'm not

34:10

I I'm not delusional to think that

34:12

I'm gonna convince everybody to do the miracle morning In

34:14

fact, I probably won't even reach 8 billion people like

34:16

realistically I don't know but to me,

34:18

it's just an intention of like, how are you living

34:20

your life? How are you showing up and for me?

34:22

I'm gonna show up every day at my best. I'm

34:24

gonna my relative best I'm gonna try to be at

34:26

my best miracle mornings would help me do that every

34:28

morning, right? I started today in a peak state and

34:31

then I'm going to help as many people as I can

34:33

that day and I will tell you this Cancer

34:37

was a mindset shift for me back

34:39

then I was much more like I

34:41

have to help everyone and I valued

34:43

Quantity over quality at that time and

34:45

what and what happened is I realized

34:48

oh, I'm a workaholic I say

34:50

that family's my number one priority I've got two

34:52

kids and a wife at home But gee, I

34:54

sure do give up a lot of weekends if

34:56

they're my highest priority because I got more people

34:58

to help And at that time I really thought

35:00

I've got to help all these people. I'm doing

35:02

this work God's work, right? And now

35:04

it's like I realize I will never impact

35:07

people at the level that I can help my

35:10

Daughter my son and my wife and

35:12

so I give up a lot of opportunity

35:14

now To impact the masses

35:16

to spend time with my family. You

35:19

got to put on the calendar and value it. Yeah I'm

35:22

reminded of a time years ago when I

35:24

was on a panel at Google at

35:28

their headquarters and it was

35:30

with the guy who made what the hell like this

35:32

kind of like dark energy propagandists guy

35:34

and Someone

35:36

in the back of them said I want to

35:39

be a vegan a vegan food activist Like you

35:41

guys have some advice for me And

35:43

I thought about it and and I said

35:46

shut up and eat And people

35:48

started clapping, right? And

35:51

what do you mean? So here's the deal You

35:53

don't have a right to be an activist because that

35:55

would just make you a bully Mmm, what you do

35:57

have a right to do is to take action

36:00

that you believe is right demonstrate that

36:02

it works so well that people ask

36:04

you. People seek you

36:07

out. Yeah. Then you've earned the

36:09

right to be a leader but you

36:11

can't be an activist because then you're just a

36:14

bully and you sound like Greta Grundleberg. Yeah. You

36:16

know like, shame on you. I don't have any

36:18

solutions but I'm skipping school on Friday but no

36:20

I'm 20 so people can pick on me and

36:22

not say I'm a high school girl. Dude, Greta,

36:25

build some shit that changes things. Stop whining. Yeah.

36:27

But that's the vegan activist mindset. Got it. By

36:29

the way in the Enneagram, the

36:32

activist is like my kryptonite. So guys

36:35

fix it. Don't talk about it. And

36:38

it what it all comes down to though is this is

36:40

about removing the the

36:42

judgment and the the

36:44

sense of morality about helping

36:46

five people versus helping 50 million people.

36:49

They're exactly the same thing. Yeah. As

36:51

long as you're helping the people that

36:53

you can help who desire help,

36:56

that's it. There's zero difference between the two.

36:58

Yeah. And any difference that you feel is

37:01

just ego. Yeah. You agree with that? Yeah.

37:04

Yes and no. No. Let me let me push back a little bit. And

37:06

I'm not even pushing back so I don't even know what I'm gonna say

37:08

here. Let me try. So when I

37:10

wrote the Miracle Morning it was out of a sense

37:12

of responsibility that this morning routine changed my life in

37:14

a profound way and I started teaching it to people

37:17

like my coaching clients and people that I knew and

37:19

they're like I'm not a morning person and they'd come

37:21

back a week later to our call and go my

37:23

gosh, it's pal this works. So

37:26

that's where I go okay wait if this

37:28

changed my life and their life and we

37:30

weren't morning people like this could help

37:32

anyone. So I have a responsibility to share this with

37:34

other people. So I wrote and self-published first book but

37:36

when I did so I was I didn't have an

37:38

audience so I wasn't thinking you know I'm like yes

37:41

this could change the world but I'm not gonna reach

37:43

the world like I just want to help if

37:45

I help one person hold that mentality one person. But

37:47

what happened is when the book came out and then

37:49

I'm getting dozens and then hundreds

37:52

and then thousands of emails and reviews like

37:54

this saved my marriage this got me off

37:56

my meds this fit right

37:58

then I'm like oh I

38:01

really got a mindset of like it is selfish of

38:03

me. That's how I and I felt and I don't know if

38:05

I still feel that way but I think that I do. It's

38:07

selfish of me to not do everything in

38:10

my power to at least introduce this to

38:12

as many people as possible because it can

38:14

really help. No thoughts

38:17

on that. I

38:19

think there's many people as possible is the nuance

38:25

because yeah as many as possible or

38:27

as many as are available. And if as are available versus as

38:29

equal the same as possible then you got it. Yeah I think

38:31

it does. As many as I can get in front of and

38:33

reach and talk to them. I

38:35

know that when I started the

38:38

blog that became bulletproof I

38:40

already had a full time VP

38:42

job at a big tech company in the

38:44

computer security industry. I had two young

38:47

kids. I started in a company that was kind of

38:49

dumb and I wasn't starting a company. I just said

38:51

look I've spent 20 years gathering this knowledge. I spent

38:53

$2 million at the time, $1 million on reversing all

38:56

this negative stuff that's going on. I'm

39:00

healthier, happier, more successful. Things are better than they ever

39:02

have been. I'm just

39:05

like a leader in longevity and nootropics and

39:08

it's just my hobby. So I'm

39:10

going to write this and five people are going to read the blog.

39:12

That was my goal. And if they

39:14

avoid the million dollars and just the suffering

39:16

that I went through when I was a

39:18

teenager and a young man and someone who's 19

39:20

reads it and it changes their life. I'm

39:23

all in just for like five people. It

39:26

grew a lot more than that and

39:29

became a $100 million a year company. But it wasn't

39:31

the goal when I started. It was just five people.

39:34

And along the way some

39:36

things stood out. Maybe one

39:39

of the most meaningful was this

39:41

is maybe just two years after I started it. I

39:43

came actually I think it was here in Austin

39:45

at an event. And

39:48

this guy walks up and goes, Dave, you know, we

39:50

have a gift for you. And it was a bag. You

39:52

had like a couple of frozen rib eyes and go

39:54

stick a butter and a card. And

39:57

the card was signed by all of his family. And he said,

39:59

you know, we found yourself. 90 days ago. And,

40:02

you know, here's a picture of us then, and here's a picture of us

40:05

now. And you

40:07

couldn't even recognize like they'd all lost huge amounts

40:09

of weight. But the one that stood

40:11

out was a 16 year old girl and she was

40:13

like really fat, right? I was pretty heavy in high

40:15

school, and certainly at the

40:17

beginnings of college, so she's just heavy, and

40:20

you know, bad skin and all that stuff.

40:22

And then the picture from nine days later is

40:26

beautiful skin, healthy, healthy

40:29

shape, just like vibrant. And

40:31

I'm like, damn, I

40:33

wish I'd done that for me. Yeah, right.

40:35

And like, I almost tried myself. Yeah, like

40:37

this, this is just so profound. And

40:40

the act of helping a person to your

40:42

nervous system into your spirit, I think it's the same

40:44

as helping a million people. I think we're built to

40:46

do that. That's what we're built to do. Humans are

40:49

built to serve each other, help each other, support each

40:51

other, connect with each other, love each other. That's it.

40:54

How does that incorporate in your

40:56

miracle morning practice? So

40:59

when I started the miracle morning, it was

41:01

a I'd say it was a selfish pursuit.

41:03

And I don't put any negativity towards that

41:05

word. Um, right. But meaning it was 2008.

41:07

The US economy had crashed, I crashed with

41:09

it, I lost my house or clothes on

41:11

by the bank. I'm in physically terrible shape

41:13

living on credit cards, really low point. Yeah.

41:15

And so I was just looking for a

41:17

solution to get out of debt and

41:19

turn my life around. And the miracle morning, it wasn't called

41:21

the miracle morning was my morning practice. And after two months,

41:24

I doubled my income at the height of the Great Recession.

41:26

And I remember the moment I ran to tell

41:28

my wife, I signed on a second coaching client

41:30

for the day, sweetie, I signed on two more

41:32

coaching clients today. She goes, Congratulations, I go, No,

41:34

no, you don't understand. Tipping, we

41:37

just doubled our income in the last two months from

41:39

this. It's all because this morning routine is the practice

41:41

I'm doing in the morning. I go, it

41:43

feels like a miracle. And without skipping a beat, she goes,

41:45

it's your miracle morning. And I go, I

41:48

like that miracle morning. But again, not a book idea.

41:50

I just wrote down miracle morning every day. That was

41:52

like, I was my thing, my miracle morning, they started

41:54

teaching it to coaching clients, right. So the

41:57

point is, it started out with me, like I need to

41:59

change my life. But now I

42:01

do the miracle morning in service of others

42:04

so for me the miracle morning helps me be the

42:06

husband that my wife deserves and the The

42:08

dad that my kids deserve because I focus

42:10

on Optimizing myself in the morning.

42:13

Yep, and then I can show up my best and

42:15

of course Yes Selfishly, I want to be happy and

42:17

I want to be healthy and I want to be

42:19

financially secure and all of those things That

42:21

doesn't go away. But also it's

42:23

like anything once your needs are taken care

42:25

of right? Then you feel like oh, I'm liberated

42:27

who do I want to help today? Cuz like you

42:29

said that's where I actually feel the most Lit

42:32

up and fulfilled is when I'm helping someone else

42:35

and so that for me is it is how do I

42:37

take care of myself? First of the morning now that I

42:39

can go out and be the husband and the father and

42:41

the leader that are the people that I serve need So

42:45

now you're talking about some kind of

42:47

masculine and feminine roles even here Yeah,

42:49

like shy was the husband the father

42:51

that I need to be most

42:53

guys including me Have

42:55

been socialized and put put everyone else first like

42:58

you don't take care of yourself. Yes, you take

43:00

care of your family first And

43:03

a big part of my belief is creating

43:05

that state of high performance and resilience it

43:08

comes from Taking care

43:10

of your own needs because then you

43:12

have ten times more energy to take

43:14

care of your community Your

43:16

family and all those things. Yeah, and

43:18

I've been doing a lot of work It might end up

43:20

being a book one of these days a lot of work

43:23

just with local local friends here in Austin especially

43:26

some like younger guys you know 20s

43:28

and 30s who are stepping into like

43:30

the phase of building a family and

43:32

building a career and all

43:34

that And it's it's

43:36

interesting to see The

43:39

shifts and the differences over time and what

43:41

does it mean to be a quote man?

43:43

What's your take on that? What's new quote man?

43:45

Yeah That's it's a great question.

43:48

And I don't know that I have a top of the mind answer

43:50

But if I give it a little bit of thought To

43:53

me it's doing what's right if

43:56

I were to simplify it I think one of those valuable things I

43:58

learned when I was when I

44:00

was 20, my mentor, I was

44:02

in sales and our division manager,

44:05

he said, the secret to success is do what's

44:07

right, not what's easy. And

44:09

to me, what's right is what's ever in

44:12

alignment with your values, your commitments and the

44:14

highest version of yourself that you know intuitively

44:16

what that is for you. And

44:19

then what's easy is anything that's not in alignment

44:21

with your values, your commitments and the highest version

44:23

of yourself. And so to me, that's being a

44:26

man, but it could also be just being a

44:28

woman, being the best version of yourself. I was

44:30

gonna ask you about that. So the difference between

44:32

the masculine side of taking care of the family

44:34

versus the feminine side of taking care of the

44:36

family. Is there a

44:38

difference between men and women in the miracle

44:40

morning practices? Men and women are identically the

44:43

same, Dave. Don't you know? Women

44:46

are small men. I forgot about that with

44:48

those pesky boobs. Yeah, no. Yeah, I mean,

44:50

I think that that is, it's

44:53

to each their own so to speak,

44:55

but like in my household, we

44:57

have some, my wife takes care of the kids.

44:59

And actually I will say this, when

45:01

I was coming up, when I was in my 20s,

45:05

I was attracted to people like me, right?

45:07

Like we all are. And so I thought

45:09

I wanted, I thought in a wife, I

45:11

want a wife that is just like me.

45:13

She's hard charging and she works a lot

45:15

and she's really charismatic and productive and a

45:17

top performer. It's such a young person thing.

45:19

I was like, I wanna computer hack her

45:22

wife. Yeah, yeah, right. And then maybe not.

45:24

Once my wife and I started dating, what

45:26

I realized is I want the same attribute,

45:28

someone that is disciplined and that is focused

45:30

and that is willing to go above and

45:32

beyond to perform at a high level. But

45:35

I realized, oh, I want her

45:37

to do that with our family and take

45:39

care of our kids in our household. But

45:41

my wife's most productive. I mean, she processed

45:43

25 chickens the other day. Like my wife

45:45

runs, she runs our ranch, dude. She's a,

45:47

she wrapped all of our pipes for this

45:49

winter freeze. She is

45:52

incredible. But if she was out

45:54

there selling books like me, right? And

45:57

doing interviews, it's like,

45:59

wait, but. But who's taking, oh, so the

46:01

nanny's taking care of the kids? Right,

46:03

and no judgment if that's the case, but like, so

46:06

I came to realize that it

46:08

was the attributes that I valued,

46:11

not the same outcomes,

46:14

right? So yeah, so for me, in our

46:16

household, my wife, and she just,

46:19

it's just naturally, like last night, my daughter

46:21

had a little heartbreak, and

46:23

I'm like, oh,

46:25

my poor baby, I don't know what to do,

46:27

and I don't know what to say. And my

46:29

wife knew what to do, and she knew what

46:31

to say, and she laid with my daughter in

46:33

bed, and my daughter went from crying to

46:35

unlistening through the door, and they're laughing,

46:37

cracking up. And that's a feminine energy

46:39

that, just that

46:41

my wife's that nurturing that I don't quite have.

46:45

I love that you're willing to talk about

46:47

that, and I'm all in on

46:49

the fact that men

46:52

and women can do most of the same

46:54

thing. Totally. Other than pick up

46:56

heavy stuff. Like, sorry, sorry, guys. My

46:58

wife, by the way, actually can almost out, dude, she is strong.

47:01

There are definitely women who can kick my ass. I'm not saying they're

47:03

right. I'm just saying on average. On average, yeah. Well,

47:05

you just look at the world record in lifting

47:07

for men, and the world record in lifting for

47:10

women, there's a difference. Well,

47:12

there is now, but there's a couple of

47:14

those Canadian power-up that just switch, they switch

47:16

teams. They identify, yeah. Maybe the women's scores

47:18

are going up. But we won't

47:20

say whether that's valid or not, but

47:23

I think everyone knows. So

47:26

there's... Careful with that

47:28

common sense over there, Dave. I

47:31

live in Texas, you know, I don't have common sense over here. But

47:34

I'm also, because I'm a

47:36

biohacker, people are like, they'll always tell you,

47:39

in the same post, they'll accuse you of being

47:42

radical, liberal, and a radical conservative. And

47:44

I'm like, guys, I support your right to

47:46

have four balls if you want to, right? And

47:48

you want to put a vagina on your forehead,

47:50

it's your body. You do anything you want to

47:53

do, and you have my full, unreserved support. Just

47:56

don't make other people do it. Yeah, yeah. That's all

47:58

I'm saying. Yeah. So I Don't think there's a... Party

48:00

prevent. I. Was event or the

48:02

independent candidate seems to support our individual

48:04

freedoms that this year yes Rfk. so

48:07

his his said he's spoken more sense

48:09

than I've heard from anyone in politics

48:11

my entire life. young and any the

48:13

sense that it comes from of it

48:16

as authentic. Twice a

48:18

heartfelt the latest? yeah following his

48:20

principles. Yep. So. I'm I'm hopeful

48:22

there. but but they the idea that you

48:24

know that that people can take offense or

48:26

whatever to take offense like Joe Rogan tried

48:28

against me for two years straight regiment that

48:31

not oh I vaguely remember yeah ten years

48:33

ago the I it was that you is

48:35

selling a competing coffee and Mct oil in

48:37

the second you sergeant as daves a con

48:39

artists despite like a and one hundred shows

48:41

are used as praising all my stuff. yeah

48:43

he deleted my up as as on it's

48:45

modified so phrases like a bionic I went

48:48

through all that such so you're going to

48:50

yell at me to buy some. It says I'm

48:52

like, well, okay result the vegan diet doesn't work. If

48:54

emailed me for that's right, You know men and women

48:56

are different. Yell at me for that. right?

48:58

And I said I'd also say. Men:

49:01

Have the ability to turn on fourth him and

49:03

energy. And so the men and women have the

49:05

ability to turn on for mask on energy like

49:07

there's one. or pick a car up off their

49:09

babies. Yeah, a. Kill

49:11

you if you fuck with their families yard so we

49:14

have we can both do all that of that's cool

49:16

and I'd support your i you whatever that you want

49:18

to do yes but analysts gonna talk about it. Because.

49:21

In the context of Miracle Morning. I'm

49:23

I've been doing a lot of work on. Differences.

49:27

Of fasting For men and women. There's a

49:29

whole chapter in. The

49:31

sea and fastest way my thousand bucks. It's. About

49:34

the psychology fasting was a similar for men and

49:36

women but the fasting window from is different. And

49:39

women often times need more sleep or the

49:41

varying amounts of sleep as on where they

49:43

are under cycle. Rides those

49:45

times when they have a bigger biological burden

49:47

when they're in there for two years. Yeah,

49:49

right. So beating up to their period. Like.

49:52

Okay, so if you're going to need an extra

49:54

hour of sleep for a week, right?

49:56

Just because your body's working at server just like

49:59

if I live. Really happy for week Writer.

50:01

So. What?

50:04

Does that do for America? More like wake up at

50:06

five am. Like you get to wake up a six

50:08

am as you're a woman. Or if you're under more

50:10

biological stress like with you go to bed earlier. The

50:12

wake up later. It's. A great point of

50:15

never heard that question before so on the able to

50:17

think of them York my so watch the interview the

50:19

day and I want to be sure. Are

50:21

not as interview sorry I watch a woman did

50:23

and I have video Book review of the Five

50:25

Am Club by Robin Sharma and I love Robin.

50:27

I learned a lot without when I was writing

50:29

a Miracle Morning I'm researching hundred he is. Robyn

50:31

was like I'd want a ton from him. Right

50:33

on and it's you be. Ah the miracle. More

50:35

like comparing the two. Most of it's. Really?

50:38

Curious on but one of the she's like up

50:40

your of morning is how flexible it is. It's

50:42

not a set time if you're a shift or

50:44

for your mural. The morning might actually start at

50:46

one pm. Right? If you have a

50:49

newborn baby, your New York A morning might be

50:51

in ten minute increments during the first ten minutes

50:53

of your babies now and then you go to

50:55

bed with the baby so you knew one or

50:57

two of the Sabres, the six practices little canary

51:00

space and then you for taking up the baby

51:02

and the weekend in the next that know. I

51:04

think. It's totally customize one. So

51:06

for me aside, you know it's not

51:08

waking up super early. it's just waking

51:10

up maybe thirty minutes before you have

51:12

to be up. To. Get somewhere so

51:14

the robin start your day in a

51:17

reactive state. Your start your day with

51:19

intention, self care and proactively putting yourself

51:21

in a peak states. You can show

51:23

up better for the people you love,

51:25

people that you lead at work, etc.

51:28

I I really like that and that's one thing

51:30

I liked by your to. So. Before

51:32

I started the biohacking movement

51:34

before, bulletproof was a thing.

51:37

I. Guess I had gone to Nepal and

51:39

bad I had Yak better T and I

51:41

was like perfecting the recipe that became Bulletproof

51:43

Coffee. And that

51:45

has since evolved even possible proof.

51:47

And I'm I'm sitting there going.

51:50

I. Know. That. People wake

51:52

up early are morally superior civil

51:54

who are mostly banned because the

51:56

early bird always gets sore at

51:59

so I. Woke up at five am

52:01

everyday no matter what and for me, My.

52:04

Bedtime since ten years old has been to

52:06

am. The. Real issue. Oh, for Am

52:08

or to her to am someone that window

52:10

very, very consistently that exact time. Is

52:13

when I'm tired I gotta go sleep. And.

52:15

I've written so many of my my

52:17

book know in that window between eleven

52:19

two were of things quiet and energies

52:21

are quieter I'd you can just channel

52:23

stuff and so. As. I

52:25

am some wake up no matter what and

52:27

I dare wake up as been an hour

52:29

I would you dumb chanting like Korea out

52:31

of breath work at the Art of Living

52:34

I have my green tea with I had

52:36

my coffee and in a burn crystals okay

52:38

to and went of us are burning for

52:40

some as different events for like I see

52:42

I didn't really intensely for two years at

52:44

the end of two years in the case

52:46

I promise of I can wake up at

52:48

five am. But. I must creative and

52:50

I just don't like it. And later as they

52:52

weren't kidding Biology, you know what? I'm.

52:54

More of a wolf and I have with

52:56

the the stuff but I guess sleep with

52:59

dave.com bust your old. My life is totally

53:01

for Yeah that's a great Europe a single

53:03

teach how to sleep every tool but I

53:05

can go to bed. It's tenth and thirty

53:07

now for the really and last five six

53:09

years I learned how to do the zoo's

53:11

while the back in and it feels natural

53:14

and normal. But until.

53:16

Then. Man. I needed my

53:18

america morning to be at seven am because otherwise

53:20

I was can be sleep deprived. The Sir Syed

53:22

zebra myself a couple years trying to prove that

53:24

this was possible was possible but was an optimal

53:27

yeah. And with Miracle Morning we

53:29

even in our first interview. Elegant started. When

53:31

you need a started in the flexibility their.

53:34

Vs. That. Early bird thing that

53:36

I think is a game changer because they're people listening

53:38

right now who aren't even ship for his. They're just

53:40

like, you know what? I. Don't feel good

53:42

if I wake up early. Totally right. It's

53:45

know, Here's my question for home. Is

53:48

it true that the early bird works for

53:50

the labored. Breaths

53:52

As and six on of Vr know

53:55

I I don't know I I think

53:57

that death know. Uh,

54:01

now i'm triggered that fine that you finally you finally

54:03

got me triggered. That's right. Yeah, how dare you

54:05

ask me such a question? Walk

54:08

listeners through savers This is

54:10

your acronym for what you do during a miracle morning

54:12

And when you guys read the miracle morning book the

54:14

new expanded edition you you get all the notes for

54:16

this obviously But just walking through real quick and I will

54:19

say just for anybody That's like I have the original miracle

54:21

morning. The new edition has 70 pages of

54:23

new content Including 25 new

54:25

pages in the sabers section alone and

54:27

then it has a new chapter the

54:30

miracle evening Which is your strategy for

54:32

blissful bedtime and better sleep? And

54:34

then the last chapter the new chapter of the miracle

54:36

life, which is your path to inner freedom So just

54:38

wanted to give a quick high high level of what's

54:40

new And I rewrote almost every page of the

54:42

book because we go back and read your work from 10 years ago It's

54:45

embarrassing you're like, oh my god, I can't believe I was a terrible writer

54:47

So I uh, I updated everything but um

54:49

the sabers are so these are six of

54:51

the most timeless proven personal development Practices in

54:54

the history of the world like I didn't

54:56

invent any of them But i'll quote robert

54:58

kiyosaki or i'll paraphrase what he said when

55:00

robert had me on his show He

55:02

said how i've read the miracle morning three times. What's

55:04

that right there? My jaw kind of dropped, you know,

55:06

one of my favorite authors read my book three times

55:08

pretty cool. Um, but he said how Um

55:11

before you wrote the miracle morning and

55:13

you created the sabers acronym He said

55:15

every successful person on the planet attributes

55:17

their success to at least one If

55:20

not two or three of the sabers He said but

55:22

i've never met anyone or heard of anyone that did

55:24

all six of these ancient best practices He

55:26

said I think you named the book correctly the miracle morning

55:28

Because he said any one of these will change your any

55:30

one of the sabers will change your life But

55:33

he goes my experience has been in the last

55:35

few months since i've been doing all six Will

55:37

create miracles for you and he's lost a ton

55:39

of weight. It helps his marriage. I mean you

55:41

name it. Um And uh, anyway,

55:43

so that's the kind of beginning with the end

55:45

in mind like the holistic look at the sabers

55:48

It stands for silence affirmations

55:52

visualization exercise

55:55

Reading and scribing. So those are the six practices

55:57

and by the way before my wife had the

55:59

idea for the acronym, the S

56:01

silence was meditation. And

56:04

the S prescribing at the

56:06

end was journaling. So it would

56:08

have been maverge. What have been the acronym? My wife said, why

56:10

didn't get a thesaurus and see if you can swap some of

56:12

those words. But here's the point. So

56:14

you're saying one of the feminine powers is

56:16

being right? Yeah, every time. Yeah,

56:20

no, she's my muse, man. She always she gets it

56:22

right. But, but so yeah, those are the six practices.

56:24

And you can do them in any order. It can

56:26

be there's a chapter in the book called the six

56:28

minute savers. So literally, you can scale this, it could

56:30

be a 60 minute practice, it could be a six

56:32

minute practice, it could be a 30 minute practice anywhere

56:35

in between. And yeah,

56:37

like to Robert Kiyosaki point, any one of

56:39

these will change your life when you stack all

56:41

six of the most effective practices,

56:43

you put yourself in a physical, mental, emotional

56:45

and spiritual state, you program your subconscious mind

56:48

with the belief that you need to, you

56:50

know, achieve whatever you want your life, I mean, there's

56:53

so many benefits, you improve your energy level to that

56:55

morning exercise, etc, etc. We can dive into any any

56:57

aspect that you want. So

56:59

that's kind of your updated routine. But I

57:02

thought was, was kind

57:04

of cool. You also have a slumbers routine, which is

57:06

the evening one. And it's got some

57:08

biohox in there. You know, stop eating three to four

57:10

hours for bed circadian biology, boom, love it. Let

57:13

go of stressful thoughts of kind of stress

57:15

relief. Yeah, natural sleep aids. What's

57:17

your favorite natural sleep aid? Um,

57:20

so I don't have a favorite, I stacked four of them.

57:23

I take magnesium. I

57:26

take valerian root. It

57:28

just smells so bad, but it works. Yeah, in the

57:30

capsule form. It's fine. And then I take CB,

57:32

a combination of CBD and CBN oil

57:34

as a product by cured nutrition. It's

57:37

called night night time oil. And

57:39

then I take the melatonin that

57:42

it's a grass. Yes, it's a natural

57:44

melatonin. Okay, cool. How much melatonin?

57:48

Three milligrams. Okay, cool. So

57:50

relatively. Well, high based

57:52

on biological creation, but low based on what some

57:54

people are doing. So yeah, cool. And you're talking

57:56

about mapping out your next day. Now. I'm

58:01

kind of torn about that because if

58:04

you focus on all the stuff you're gonna do in the next

58:06

day, like when you go to sleep, you might kind

58:08

of be stressed about that. But I've also

58:10

talked with a Navy SEAL

58:12

or a combat, might've been

58:14

a special forces guy. And he

58:16

was working on sleep with people and he found

58:19

that for people with stress around going

58:21

to sleep and recurring thoughts, writing it

58:23

down works really well. Yeah. If

58:26

you don't have recurring thoughts, is planning out

58:28

the day ahead still a best practice for

58:30

you? So yes

58:32

and no. Here's the way that I look at it. So

58:34

yeah, if you've got like, if your mind is racing, oh,

58:36

I gotta do that tomorrow. Oh, wait, I gotta remember that,

58:38

right? Then that's where you can't

58:41

relax. But if you write down

58:44

everything you gotta do tomorrow, then you're like, I don't

58:46

have to even think about it because I know it's

58:48

written down. Now here's my solution. I think I mentioned

58:50

this in the book. I don't actually

58:52

map out my next day every night. I

58:54

map out my next day with a

58:56

recurring calendar. So I never have if

58:59

it's not in my calendar, I have brain damage. So from

59:01

the car accident to cancer, I don't remember it. I don't

59:03

even know it has to my calendar. So

59:05

for me, mapping out my next day is

59:07

actually just done throughout the day. I don't

59:09

actually do it at night. But the idea

59:11

is that if you don't have that, if

59:13

you don't have everything in a digital calendar

59:15

already figured out, you don't have to think

59:17

about it at night, then actually getting this

59:19

out of your head and putting it on

59:21

paper gives your subconscious permission to just

59:23

relax. There are studies

59:26

showing that we way over

59:29

represent our ability to remember things. Oh,

59:31

yeah, totally. How many times especially, you

59:33

know, when I was younger, before I

59:35

figured this out about myself, like all

59:38

humans do is I'll just remember that. Yeah, like,

59:40

and it just goes away. And you don't even know

59:42

that went away because it went away. You don't remember

59:44

that you forgot. Right. It's so

59:46

frustrating. So I'm that way

59:48

too. And maybe I also have brain damage I

59:50

did from toxic mold, but apparently it grew back

59:52

on my Daniel Amen spec

59:55

scans. But it's

59:58

a fool's errands to hold your account. calendar in

1:00:00

your head for the rest of them, because it's going to change. Totally.

1:00:03

Or to have a to-do list. Because if

1:00:05

it's not on the calendar, you're not gonna do it. If you're

1:00:07

at all busy or if you have kids, so for me, if

1:00:09

it's not on the calendar, I don't do it. So why don't

1:00:11

we need to think about tomorrow? I have an

1:00:13

assistant who I work with all the time, and she's playing

1:00:15

Tetris on my calendar, so I know whatever I have tomorrow

1:00:18

is the most effective thing I could do. Totally. And

1:00:20

yeah, I have an assistant that helps, but even if I don't, anyone

1:00:24

here can have a digital calendar and you

1:00:26

don't have a to-do list. When

1:00:29

am I gonna do it? That's it. I

1:00:31

don't have it to do it. I have it to do just

1:00:33

with a bunch of stuff that I eventually want to get done.

1:00:35

But yeah, what I do is I schedule blocks of time. So

1:00:37

I'm like, okay, what's my to-do list tomorrow? And I schedule, I

1:00:39

literally put it in. At 8 a.m., I'm doing this from 8

1:00:41

to 8.30. 8.30 to 9 this, 9 to 9.15, 9.15 to 9.45, right? That's

1:00:46

how my, my, my, uh, daily. Yeah, I map it out. Yeah. And

1:00:49

people who do that are more effective. So, but you get

1:00:51

dumped for bed. Boycoding blue light. So we are both so

1:00:53

line. That's a massive biohack. I feel that I

1:00:56

was crazy when I started True Dark. And we

1:00:58

have a study coming out soon in

1:01:00

a neuroscience journal showing the specific tint

1:01:02

and gradient lens that

1:01:05

I created that

1:01:07

it changes your brainwaves in 15 minutes

1:01:09

as if you were doing advanced meditation.

1:01:11

Wow. Which is super cool. So it's

1:01:14

not just blocking blue. It's blocking four

1:01:16

spectrums in angle and intensity. So

1:01:19

the True Dark glasses that are there for blocking

1:01:21

blue, that was a big part of how I

1:01:23

managed to move my circadian window. And

1:01:25

it's how I blocked up. You wear those 15 minutes for bed? An

1:01:28

hour's better if you're really trying to shift things. But

1:01:30

basically you just don't want to have even five seconds

1:01:32

of bright light when you're brushing your teeth. It'll jack

1:01:34

you up. Yeah. So you wear those or

1:01:36

you get better lighting indoors. People come for dinner

1:01:38

at my house and like, why are the lights all dim?

1:01:40

I'm like, cause the sun's starting to go

1:01:43

down and we're eating and then they're going to stay dim.

1:01:45

Yeah. Yeah. Like

1:01:47

you feel better. Yeah. Okay. So

1:01:49

blue light is the thing there. What a blissful

1:01:51

state with bedtime affirmations. How

1:01:53

long are these affirmations? I

1:01:56

mean, they're relatively short. It probably takes 60 seconds to

1:01:58

read them. And then like I give them. in the

1:02:00

book, I give you my bedtime affirmations and you can print them out

1:02:02

or you can just read the book or whatever. But the

1:02:06

for me affirmations are, you know, that's the

1:02:08

A in savers, right? They're

1:02:11

the most misunderstood, mistaught, and in

1:02:13

my opinion, the most valuable of all

1:02:15

forms of personal development. That's like a

1:02:17

bold statement. But and the reason is

1:02:19

with an affirmation to me, you get

1:02:22

to craft and articulate the perfect language,

1:02:24

right, which evolves, like my affirmations are

1:02:26

always changing as I'm changing and learning

1:02:28

and growing and evolving and read something

1:02:30

and like, Oh, that quote belongs in

1:02:32

my affirmation around my wife, because that

1:02:34

reminds me of what I need to

1:02:37

do to show better for her. And

1:02:39

so for the affirmations, the reason there's a problem

1:02:41

is we've been taught to either lie to ourselves, you

1:02:44

know, if you're, if you're, if you're struggling

1:02:46

financially, just say, I

1:02:48

am wealthy. I

1:02:50

am well, right. Um, or we're taught

1:02:52

to use flowery passive language produces a

1:02:54

magical result. I'm a money magnet. Money

1:02:57

flows to me effortlessly in an abundance, right? So for

1:02:59

me, the way I teach affirmations in the book, affirm

1:03:02

number one, what you're committed to number two, why it's

1:03:05

a must for you. And number three, which actions you're

1:03:07

going to take and when that's like my general affirmations

1:03:09

formula. But that's only one of infinite

1:03:11

formulas, the whole point of an affirmation is

1:03:13

simply a reminder of something that you deem

1:03:16

so important, you want to revisit it every

1:03:18

single day until it becomes a part of

1:03:20

your consciousness, a permanent fixture in your consciousness.

1:03:24

I love that. And when it gets in our consciousness, I

1:03:26

think it percolates

1:03:28

through into yourselves. Totally. Like your

1:03:30

body becomes an antenna. Totally. Finding

1:03:32

that. So you've got those in there, you've got read a book,

1:03:35

and then sleep like a baby to get

1:03:37

quality sleep. There's

1:03:40

something missing. And it

1:03:43

seems like it's something that's important for nourishing

1:03:45

people, you know, keeping the species alive. It

1:03:48

starts with an F the way I do it. If

1:03:51

you're gonna trigger somebody, dude, come on. He

1:03:53

what we think about

1:03:56

the other app. How? Yeah,

1:03:58

I'm sorry, man. So

1:04:04

talking about miracle mornings miracle evenings and

1:04:06

getting laid Oh,

1:04:08

what is funny who was it? Oh, no, it's actually I

1:04:10

won't say who could but somebody on my team her

1:04:14

mother-in-law Says yeah,

1:04:16

she read the miracle morning before My

1:04:19

team member met her son and they got

1:04:21

married right? So she's already wait you work for the

1:04:23

miracle morning guy I love miracle morning. I do that

1:04:25

morning She goes and she told her the very first

1:04:27

time they met and they were talking about it She

1:04:29

was my husband. I do the miracle morning, but the

1:04:31

S in savers the final S is for sex That's

1:04:33

how we start every morning how we end our miracle

1:04:35

morning. So yeah, so okay swap

1:04:38

out S is that's fine So you do

1:04:40

scribing? So maybe you could scribe some sort

1:04:42

of like soft core, you know that you

1:04:44

just wrote out I mean a little erotic

1:04:46

story will silence you could just be silent

1:04:48

just do it in silence. It usually doesn't

1:04:50

work Let's

1:04:52

have a little kids next door that has to be silent but

1:04:55

uh, it's it's kind of a humorous thing

1:04:57

But it's also like best time.

1:04:59

Is it a morning or an evening thing? There's

1:05:01

camps about that dude, if you

1:05:03

have you don't have small kids at home anymore Dave. It's

1:05:05

whenever you can It's that's

1:05:08

the time whenever you

1:05:10

can yeah, so so I guess

1:05:12

that that even if you're tired there's

1:05:14

advice for people with young kids and I have Several

1:05:17

friends who have really young kids now it

1:05:19

you used to be like, let's wait for day by

1:05:21

it's like no You don't wait. Yeah, because I promise

1:05:23

you kids have radar. We'll wake up at 5 a.m.

1:05:25

They're like, oh, they're awake Let's wake up too. Yeah,

1:05:28

it doesn't matter like they chase your schedule around.

1:05:30

So yep, like you have 20 minutes you go

1:05:32

for it Yeah, that keeps marriages a lot stronger.

1:05:34

That's for sure. Okay, so there's

1:05:36

the best time in miracle morning thing as long

1:05:38

as you get it done Yeah, okay. I like

1:05:41

that and for listeners I I'm Working

1:05:44

on on this this idea of biohacking

1:05:47

It's changing the environment around you and inside of

1:05:49

you so you have full control of your own

1:05:51

biology and the the so you

1:05:53

can But so you

1:05:55

can show up the way you want to show up in

1:05:58

your life, which is totally in alignment with what you you're

1:06:00

talking about here. And I

1:06:02

also believe, I have this F

1:06:04

word framework that our bodies fall,

1:06:06

fear, food, and then fertility, right?

1:06:12

And then friends, right? Like

1:06:14

we kind of prioritize our time automatically and

1:06:17

ourselves, all animals do that. So

1:06:19

given these things, we've got to schedule when we get

1:06:21

our rest, because if you're exhausted, you're gonna actually be

1:06:23

in a state of fear and anxiety. How

1:06:26

do we nourish ourselves properly? Which we talk about

1:06:28

that. But then how do we

1:06:30

nourish ourselves in our love life as a form

1:06:32

of nourishment and spiritual practice, not as just getting

1:06:34

laid. And it feels like society doesn't

1:06:36

talk about that very much, but it's

1:06:39

make or break for how you show up in

1:06:41

the world as a man or as a woman

1:06:43

or as a

1:06:45

family or as whatever your arrangement is, that

1:06:48

if that's lacking, it's almost like you have

1:06:50

a diet that's not working right. Yeah, right.

1:06:52

And you can choose fasting, you choose celibacy.

1:06:55

That's fine, but it needs to be conscious,

1:06:57

right? And I'm working on helping

1:06:59

followers use those energetics,

1:07:01

which are more like qigong or

1:07:03

tantra or more Eastern thinking, even

1:07:05

some of the Ayurvedic practices where

1:07:08

you bring those into balance and that lets

1:07:11

you show up just

1:07:13

10 times more than you would have, but

1:07:15

this is kind of missing from a lot

1:07:17

of practices because it's titillating or embarrassing or

1:07:19

whatever. And that's why if you go

1:07:21

to the biohacking conference, but you're in St. Dallas this year,

1:07:23

you should come. End of

1:07:25

May, like May 30th or 31st

1:07:28

through June 1st. I should like talk on

1:07:30

morning routines or something. If

1:07:35

you're up for that, let me, I've

1:07:37

got Rebecca's gonna kill me. I know our main stage is full, but let

1:07:39

me see what I can do. I'd

1:07:42

love to have you there, but it's just come, be my

1:07:44

guest if you're interested, bring the family. Yeah, all right. You

1:07:46

have to leave the chickens for a day. You'll have to

1:07:48

figure that one out. It's three days, but anyway,

1:07:51

last year I brought in, I

1:07:54

brought in at least one or two speakers about intimacy. So

1:07:57

I always look in a spiritual practice or

1:07:59

daily routine. How do we bring

1:08:01

intimacy in as another way of amplifying

1:08:03

our energy throughout the day? And

1:08:05

I like you're like anytime if you got young kids If

1:08:08

you don't have kids morning or evening is better or you just

1:08:10

don't have data on that I don't date on that. Yeah, I'd

1:08:12

be I'd be speaking out of my head of my lane So

1:08:15

miracle morning bedroom edition. Just a

1:08:17

suggestion. Yeah, there you go Miracle

1:08:20

morning for lovers. There you go. Miracle morning for the miracle morning

1:08:23

for couples is a book Yeah,

1:08:25

and your acronym is if you Right

1:08:29

It'll uh I

1:08:31

actually highly recommend that if if that's in

1:08:33

your scope of practice and knowledge because

1:08:37

My experience has been that that working

1:08:41

Those energies into your affirmation

1:08:43

practice into your Meditation

1:08:47

practice and just into your connection with the

1:08:49

world It really does deepen and enhance your

1:08:51

ability to make stuff happen in the world And

1:08:54

this is kind of like you're saying you have a partner Your

1:08:57

wife who does things that you don't do like you you kind

1:08:59

of Mash and fulfill each other

1:09:01

in that way People do that

1:09:04

whether they're in you know dedicated partnership or not

1:09:06

And I just feel like we haven't done enough

1:09:08

work as a society on figuring out that part

1:09:10

of human biology psychology and spirituality So yeah, i'm

1:09:12

down for hacking that All

1:09:16

right, I feel like we've gone Pretty

1:09:18

uh pretty deep on the new

1:09:21

miracle morning. Is there anything?

1:09:24

Else that's new in the new edition of

1:09:26

miracle morning that you really think is

1:09:28

top of mind. Yeah. I mean well just

1:09:31

all quickly People,

1:09:33

you know, why did you write the new book?

1:09:35

Um, and it was well It's 11 years since

1:09:37

the book came out 15 years since I started

1:09:39

the practice Um, I would hope that by

1:09:41

doing the miracle morning six plus days a

1:09:43

week every week that i've evolved a ton

1:09:47

In in what I do and how I do it and so Um

1:09:50

in the new book, it was like it was making sure

1:09:52

that it didn't lose the essence of the original Um,

1:09:54

and but also that it answered all the questions i've

1:09:56

gotten over the last 11 years and what people have

1:09:59

asked for and requested And so, for

1:10:02

example, meditation, I've

1:10:04

developed what I, you know, I don't know

1:10:06

if I made it up, but I don't

1:10:10

know where I would have learned it, but I

1:10:12

call it emotional optimization meditation. And

1:10:14

so as opposed to just

1:10:16

clearing your mind and following your

1:10:18

breath, and sitting in silence, it's

1:10:20

actually a very proactive meditation where you start today and

1:10:22

ask, what would be the optimal mental and emotional state

1:10:25

for me to be in that would best serve me

1:10:27

today? And it might be confidence if you've got some

1:10:29

big presentation coming up. It might be playfulness if you're

1:10:31

hanging out with your kids on Saturday morning. It

1:10:33

might be love if you've gotten a fight with your

1:10:36

spouse the night before and you need empathy in the

1:10:38

morning, right? Whatever it is, though,

1:10:40

I teach you in the book, how do you

1:10:42

identify your optimal state? How do you then trigger

1:10:44

that state, get into the state, then you set

1:10:46

your timer for five or 10 minutes, and you

1:10:48

meditate in that state and you're hardwired in

1:10:50

your nervous system, so that it becomes

1:10:52

a permanent fixture in how you feel.

1:10:55

And so for me, bliss is my

1:10:57

general default. Every day I want to

1:10:59

be just totally at peace, totally happy

1:11:01

for no reason, as Marcie Sheimoff would

1:11:03

say, right? And so that's my

1:11:06

default state. And by reinforcing that every single day

1:11:08

for just five minutes in the morning, and then

1:11:10

some days it's a specific state. But

1:11:13

that's been a game changer for me, you know?

1:11:15

And so that's an example of how every one

1:11:17

of the savers, I was like, okay, here's the

1:11:19

basic if you're brand new to meditation.

1:11:22

But here's how you can take it to the next level when you're ready

1:11:25

to. I

1:11:28

really appreciate that, because you've got to be

1:11:30

able to talk

1:11:33

about in the book, and feel free to talk

1:11:35

about this really

1:11:37

tiny nuanced thing

1:11:40

that you do. And I don't really

1:11:42

know like a ABC structure

1:11:44

for it. But when you read the book,

1:11:46

you kind of get a sense of it.

1:11:48

It's almost like, like one of

1:11:50

the things you can only see out of the corner of your eye. Yeah.

1:11:54

Right. And when you hone in on a

1:11:56

practice like that, it becomes easier and easier to see and go,

1:11:59

I'm doing it right. today and it works

1:12:01

well and I didn't do it right the other day so it is a

1:12:04

miracle morning practice which is

1:12:07

which is solid how

1:12:09

thanks for making the long half-hour drive

1:12:12

to the studios here and it's

1:12:14

it's always a great pleasure to see you I can't

1:12:16

wait to hang out socially we'll go to dinner or

1:12:18

something maybe we'll see what the well again well baby

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yeah nice and brother because

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the well is a restaurant here in Austin

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where we just ran into each other that

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