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1:52

Asprey. What would

1:54

happen if you crossed a

1:57

stem cell scientist with an

1:59

herbalist? and had

2:01

them write books and create stuff. Well,

2:04

what you get is something

2:06

pretty weird. The ability to stimulate

2:08

stem cells without having

2:10

to get hooked with needles or

2:13

have maybe your bone marrow taken

2:15

out twice like I've had. Now,

2:17

there are some people who will recreationally remove bone

2:19

marrow and I may or may not be one

2:21

of those, but there aren't very many of us.

2:25

And so if you wanted the benefits of

2:27

whole body stem cells, cost

2:30

effectively, I think there is

2:32

a clear scientific case that you could

2:34

do it this way. So I thought,

2:36

why don't I bring in the inventor

2:38

himself, Christian Drapo. Christian, welcome. Thank you,

2:40

David. You

2:43

wrote a book called Plant-Based

2:45

Stem Cell Enhancers, which did

2:47

not make the New York Times bestseller list. It's

2:50

one of those specialized books

2:52

with precious knowledge in it

2:54

that's targeted to a relatively few people,

2:56

but it's bringing some new

2:58

knowledge to the world, basically. So I'm

3:01

pretty excited about that. And

3:03

the first question for you, plant-based

3:06

stem cells versus plant-based stem

3:09

cell enhancers. What's the difference?

3:12

Every living organism in nature

3:14

has a place

3:17

in its structure where there's a layer

3:19

of stem cells. They are the

3:21

cells that will migrate in the tissue of that

3:23

plant and that will become essentially

3:25

anything else in the plant. So you have these

3:27

plant stem cells. They are stem cells for plants.

3:29

They have the DNA of stem cells. If

3:32

you take them by mouth, you

3:35

will kill all of these stem cells. You

3:37

will kill everything. So plant-based stem cells are

3:39

bullshit. I mean, it

3:41

contains a level of, let's say, generally

3:43

speaking, cytokines, growth factors that when

3:46

they're applied topically, they could have

3:48

an effect on human tissues. I'm

3:50

not saying they're bullshit. So growth

3:53

factors are real. But

3:55

a lot of companies are saying, oh, we

3:57

have plant-based stem cells. But the plant-based stem

3:59

cells... don't act like stem

4:01

cells in your body. They don't. I

4:04

consider that to be marketing BS, but

4:06

do plants stimulate your own stem cells?

4:08

That's different. Correct, so that's what we're

4:11

talking about. So we're talking about plant-based

4:13

stem cell enhancers, or

4:15

mobilizers. You take them and they

4:17

trigger the release of your own stem cells. Can

4:20

you eat stem cells? You

4:22

can, but it won't do anything. Could you kill them?

4:25

Then why does stem region work? Stem

4:27

region is plants, plant extracts that will trigger

4:29

the release of your own stem cells. So

4:32

just like you have like a kinacea supporting

4:34

your immune system, these are plants that support

4:36

your repair system, which is your stem cells.

4:38

Why does it matter that they're plant-based? It

4:41

doesn't matter that they're plant-based. It's just that

4:43

anything that you take orally as

4:46

stem cells, your digestive system will kill them. So

4:48

you eat your own stem cells, they don't work

4:50

either. They don't work. Exactly, so

4:52

eating stem cells, bad idea. So

4:56

I've heard the Kardashians are drinking

4:58

their placenta for stem cells. Is

5:00

that real? No, it's

5:02

not. I mean, eating stem cells

5:04

will kill the stem cells. So it's not

5:06

a thing. However, I must say that there

5:08

is a tradition in Africa where

5:11

you take the placenta and you just like smear

5:13

your face with it and it gives you like

5:15

a facelift. And that is true because you apply

5:17

basically exosomes. You get exosomes

5:19

from it. And I actually fully

5:21

support eating your placenta because getting

5:23

minerals from the placenta back in

5:25

mom is something that

5:28

will stop postpartum depression. It's

5:31

oftentimes a lack of copper and zinc that

5:33

triggers it. And it's all there in the

5:35

placenta and we waste it. So I'm not

5:37

tough enough to recommend cooking up with liver

5:39

and onions or whatever they used to do,

5:41

but you can get it made into capsules

5:44

and that's really smart. Eating things that don't

5:46

get digested and act as signaling molecules in

5:48

the body, this is what's

5:50

gotten me excited. In the very

5:53

latest book, Smarter Not Harder, I

5:55

talk about the basic tenets of biohacking. It's

5:57

get a signal into the body. that

6:00

causes the body to do what you want. And stem

6:02

cell regulators, which are

6:05

coming from plants or from animals or

6:07

from chemicals even, it doesn't really matter

6:09

as long as you're getting

6:11

the right signal to the body that says

6:13

make more stem cells. And now these are

6:15

my stem cells, they're bioidentical, they're not from

6:17

like eight or 10 random and zumbilical cords,

6:20

which seems expensive and a little risky. What

6:23

are the risks of using stem

6:25

region versus using umbilical stem cells?

6:28

Zero risk, I mean, that's one of the

6:30

beauty of what we have with stem regen.

6:32

It was not designed that way, but how

6:35

did we identify the plants having an effect

6:37

on stem cells? We started with the thought

6:39

that a plant that supports stem cells in

6:41

the body, that means stem

6:43

cells will go into the pancreas of

6:45

the diabetic, the heart of the heart

6:47

patient, the lung of the person. So

6:49

that means they will bring a broad variety

6:51

of benefits. So we looked at plants

6:53

historically known to be associated with the

6:55

broad variety of benefits and we studied

6:57

those plants. And they just happen to

7:00

be plants that have been used for centuries,

7:02

sometimes thousands of years. So there's

7:04

absolutely no risk at all. I mean, we've

7:06

done it as humans for a long time. We

7:08

just didn't realize that these plants had an effect

7:10

on stem cells, that part is the new part.

7:14

To get more details and save 20%, go

7:16

to stemregion.co.dave. This

7:20

is one of the things that makes me

7:22

happy about biohacking. So I started

7:25

this journey not knowing anything

7:27

about Eastern practices, even herbal

7:29

stuff. I was kind of a

7:31

skeptic actually, like computer science. And

7:34

when all of the Western approaches failed, I'm

7:36

still 300 pounds, my brain is turned off.

7:38

I have actually brain damage from toxic mold

7:40

and I'm just trashed. That's when I

7:42

went to the jungle. That's when I

7:44

went to the Himalayas and I learned

7:46

all these esoteric Eastern practices. And

7:50

what I found over time is that all of the stuff

7:52

that I was taught was BS

7:55

actually worked, but no one in

7:57

the West would believe it. So Part of the

7:59

biohacking movement is, hey, guys. Let's get our

8:01

own data from our sleep trackers, your

8:03

own labs from whatever. And suddenly, over

8:05

the last ten or so years of

8:07

making bio hacking things, we now have

8:09

millions of people saying. That. Old

8:11

stuff worth zoo my great grandmother said was

8:13

true and what you did as the same

8:15

thing in the your your it would just

8:18

stem cells scientists. Your first book was twenty

8:20

thirteen eleven years ago and since it's very

8:22

early pioneer. You're. Saying well let's

8:24

compare your herbalist knowledge with the knowledge that

8:26

you have a simple scientists you crossing over

8:28

in the lab and like what are a

8:30

couple ingredients and some region that you found

8:33

works. That. Let

8:35

me answer is by kind of going to

8:37

where it all started because which because that

8:39

the starting point was not to say. I'm

8:42

a herbalist so let me look at

8:44

plants and what they could do and

8:46

stem cells. It was working with a

8:48

plant which was blue green algae from

8:50

Climate lake at the time during the

8:52

in the late nineteen nineties and we

8:54

cannot explain why people consuming this plants

8:57

as very significant benefits. Touching heart function,

8:59

liver function of long functions, pancreatic from

9:01

rain every so how can one plant

9:03

touch so many things in the body

9:05

and at some point where early two

9:07

thousand and one stem cells are only

9:09

believed to be precursors to blood cells

9:11

and reports for to show up and

9:13

delivery trucks that stem cells can become

9:15

brain liver heart So the thought was

9:18

why these themselves or the repair system

9:20

of the bodies nobody has ever looked

9:22

at it that way in what is

9:24

that swear words by putting more stem

9:26

cells and circulations That was the starting

9:28

point and from their then I started

9:30

to do exactly what what you just

9:32

described. Let's look at all these plants

9:34

known as story lead to bring many

9:36

benefits and guess what maybe they have

9:38

an effect on stem cells? It was

9:41

just another thing morning. When years ago. This

9:43

is really new on the site in the scientific

9:45

literature. Is

9:47

there blue green algae? And them

9:50

region yeah the green algae that it was

9:52

the first one that we document is not

9:54

the strongest What? the first one? So blue

9:56

green algae has as kind of pissed me

9:58

off. Okay, perfectly honest. So. I.

10:01

Was ravi gun and as a ravi again

10:03

I am pretty sure I had a blue

10:05

green algae animal least once again not real.

10:07

It's such a bad. Youtube videos are the

10:10

words of when when you're digging especially start

10:12

being robbed because the resulting in died as

10:14

work so and know because as cut so.

10:18

This was a thing. But. Then I

10:20

learned about socks sick blue

10:22

green algae. And how it

10:24

makes toxins almost identical. The micro toxins, low

10:26

molecular weight toxins, the get into their fat

10:28

soluble membranes and the body had a clean

10:30

all that crap out from toxic mold and

10:32

lime disease. does? it's brown recluse spiders do.

10:34

It's a barracuda eaten in the off season

10:37

will do it. There's all these ways you

10:39

get these toxins and and sort of us

10:41

don't spit him out so he does your

10:43

brain functions like crap until we die unless

10:45

we do something. So I I was like

10:47

how do I know that I'm getting blue

10:49

green algae that's clean that doesn't have the

10:51

bad blue green algae and. Of

10:54

A. we can go deep in this if

10:56

you want because I was your I was

10:58

I would like in the middle of this

11:00

and when when all the toxicity at the

11:02

thought that that knowledge of toxins coming from

11:05

blue green algae all exploded like in the

11:07

late nineteen eighties Ninety nineties and when all

11:09

of this explode in the marketplace will I

11:11

was sort the link with the of the

11:13

A in Washington to evaluate a lot of

11:16

of these issues. So am I mean I

11:18

I I I worked with this very deeply

11:20

and to summarize it's. A. Blue.

11:22

Green algae itself does not make.

11:25

The. Blue green algae a a safe from climate. Lake

11:27

itself does not make talks and it does not

11:29

after he was not. There. Are many

11:32

strains of that species? Other places

11:34

in the world that make toxin

11:36

and in the scientific literature toxicologist

11:38

are interested into toxins so it

11:41

makes those strains appeared to be

11:43

like make the picture of the

11:45

much bigger in reality they are

11:47

thousands more strains of these will

11:49

be Lg darren not toxic and.

11:52

It makes sense even with toxic

11:54

mold and blackballed. Oh. Koji

11:57

was her first make suck eggs which is

11:59

really I don't drink but if I was

12:01

going to drag it would be like a

12:03

five hundred dollar bottle. Is there you go.

12:05

It's amazing sushi and it's made by black

12:08

mold just non toxic black morris so. You

12:10

I like your point there and within stem

12:13

region because you were done this for many

12:15

many years of and by the big. As

12:17

a Christian I we sit down and we

12:19

have really deep over dinner and all this

12:21

like crazy d by like As If is

12:23

one of my favorite people to talk to

12:25

you is very broadly knowledgeable on both sides

12:28

of the equation that the plan stuff the

12:30

ability to talk about this relatively unknown aspect

12:32

of blue green algae so I I do

12:34

take some region it does not have a

12:36

toxins, I can feel the Saxons build up

12:38

and you would be the guy to. Tested

12:41

and now but I am skeptical and you know

12:43

someone who really as well meaning like I have

12:45

these visions levine smurf cookies and there's blue green

12:47

and didn't know anything about where there are comes

12:49

from. I'm just gonna skip that one because I've

12:51

had blue green drinks and to do not me

12:53

on my ass and I know what's going on

12:55

in their. I'm. So you've

12:57

got clean blue green algae. Or

13:00

and you've got a bunch of other things

13:02

in the right combinations. Caress them region. Can.

13:05

And the right combination is really. I mean

13:07

we studied probably. I would say overall may

13:09

be like twenty plants for their effect on

13:11

stem major around stem cells because it's it's

13:13

a really expensive assets. It's a human as

13:16

a. Sub were very

13:18

selective a set as to what with

13:20

tested over the years and trying to

13:22

at times infer and at times actually

13:25

test the mechanism of action is the

13:27

idea would send Mcguinness to bring the

13:29

plants that will release themselves using different

13:31

mechanism of action see good synergy with

13:33

all these ingredients. South Us when we have.

13:36

That's. That's really

13:39

cool because. I've had some

13:41

cells injected twice. Co Co. invented

13:43

a procedure for that in every

13:46

joints in my body. right?

13:48

All been on my spine

13:50

you know, toes, knees and

13:53

goals of reproductive system. As

13:55

summaries and doesn't do that though I've also had.

13:59

Of the almost a billion if not

14:01

worse of themselves of my own that

14:03

are grown in a lab in put

14:05

in intravenously. Compare.

14:07

And contrast, if is hundred thousand, our

14:09

procedures with a bottle of demaree gentle.

14:11

What are the differences? I mean

14:14

I don't want to make a comparison hear

14:16

that makes them region look like a treatment

14:18

that the commitment was not. Put that aside

14:20

it does are those are violent remains justice

14:22

doing longevity sorts of but still that like

14:24

like there is a difference but most people

14:27

just gets himself and train as they they're

14:29

not getting injections. A nice graph so if

14:31

we talk numbers guy. Did. The

14:33

procedure that you describe is is unique

14:35

and and that's where there's a difference.

14:37

Meanings stem cells don't have an easy

14:39

access to join to they do, but

14:41

but not. As for an injection when

14:44

you talk about joint, that's where it's

14:46

really valuable when we talk about systemically.

14:48

You. Talk about you received about a billion stem

14:50

cell over the course of many other i'm have

14:53

been a stem cell. At. Called

14:55

Tourists and Twenty Fourteen. I have had many

14:57

many procedure some different practitioners mostly just because

14:59

I'm right about it. I gotta try It

15:01

says south you take to cancel the stem

15:04

region and you will release and the numbered.

15:06

I'm giving you year we didn't we can.

15:08

if you want talk about how are we

15:10

came up to that number. It's a real

15:13

number, it's not around and number but coming

15:15

from all the studies we've done you will

15:17

release. I would say it's an average most

15:19

likely a minimum of about ten million additional

15:22

stem cells with to castles do this every

15:24

day. For three months you've really civilian stem

15:26

cells. Yeah the cost of three bottles a

15:28

some as it's it was the the secrecy

15:30

what I mean it's says so how many

15:33

stem cells would you go with the zebra

15:35

on belittle stem cell treatment. I. Mean

15:37

if you pay let's say twenty grand you will

15:39

have about one hundred billion or so he One

15:41

hundred million hundred million hundred to two hundred million

15:43

so that was on one bottle of them are

15:45

just. But. Right, But

15:47

the things you understand is that

15:49

of those themselves injected. yeah, about

15:52

an estimated. Ten. To fifteen

15:54

percent survival. so that was real Us

15:56

to ten million effective stem cells. You.

15:58

Have really that ten mil in with to

16:00

get some. Sit there, you're wrong. This.

16:03

Is some is really important for listeners

16:06

understand it as if you're gonna do

16:08

intervene A cells. I'm a huge fan

16:10

of doing your own cells for a

16:12

variety of reasons including survivability. You get

16:14

a vile that has a bunch of

16:16

themselves from some random people that has

16:19

been tested for quote everything and but

16:21

the asterisk on everything is hard to

16:23

know what it really is and what

16:25

they missed. You.

16:27

Also have to your the fact that from

16:29

when they were taken many many of them

16:31

died just like if it's a probiotics. it

16:33

is one hundred billion colony for me units.

16:35

But none of them lived because the bottle

16:37

was open. So we have that issue in

16:39

the Sims a world I'm not saying a

16:41

bogus of the work, I don't I don't

16:43

believe using them as a good idea. When.

16:46

You can either get your own stem

16:48

cells to injects or instead of doing

16:50

intravenous. Or even in in

16:52

on top of doing own intravenous. You could

16:54

do. Something like stem region and

16:56

now you just do it for three months is

16:58

what? Once a year? Once every six months. I

17:01

mean I grew up with grew up

17:03

over the past twenty years. I grew

17:05

up when the evolution of that size

17:07

and we published in two thousand and

17:09

one the first article than a general

17:11

called medical I party sees suggesting this

17:13

idea. That's it looks like stem cells

17:15

or the repair system of the body.

17:17

As this information evolved the something yells

17:19

at became clear is that while we

17:21

study stem cells for injuries repair like

17:23

when you have a problem what has

17:25

emerged from this is that you study

17:27

stem cell for a problem that his

17:29

heart attack and you look at stem

17:31

cells migrate in the heart. but after

17:33

the study is completed sometimes there's mice

17:35

that are less than that study and

17:37

when they looked at these mice it's

17:40

it's three. Four months later. You. Have

17:42

stem cells have migrated everywhere in the

17:44

body for to make the story short

17:46

he of their the retire but they're

17:48

also the maintenance system. Every that socialized

17:50

health is a cycle like at at

17:52

your age you don't have the same

17:54

assist year old liver is the old

17:56

pancreas if the old lung i don't

17:59

remember when you. every two, three years.

18:01

Pancreas, 46 years. You have half a new

18:03

heart every 25 years. Everything is

18:05

in turnover. The problem is that

18:07

the red marrow you're born with converts

18:09

into yellow marrow very early in

18:11

our lives. By age 30, we've lost 90%

18:13

of our red marrow. So

18:16

in your 30s, you may remember you have

18:18

discovered that you're not Superman anymore. You used

18:20

to be, you know, we were all Superman,

18:22

Wonder Woman, and now you realize, I'm not

18:24

healing, repairing as well as I used to.

18:26

It's that number of stem cells now, there's

18:28

not enough to repair and

18:31

to offset cellular loss. And that's when

18:33

you start to slowly realize your

18:35

aging. So with this understanding, I wanted

18:38

to put more stem cells in my

18:40

circulation every day to offset the everyday

18:42

deficit that I have. So for me,

18:44

it's an everyday thing, but with stem

18:46

regen, it is so effective compared to

18:49

other products that I've had in the

18:51

past. And I'm starting to realize, yeah,

18:53

maybe you could do this for let's

18:55

say two months and then be off

18:57

two months. If you release 600 million

19:00

stem cells in two months, it

19:02

should cover for the past few months. And you just do it

19:04

all the time though, personally. I do it all the time. Okay,

19:06

I've been on it all the time too. And

19:09

I know everyone listening has a budget,

19:11

you know, even we have a lot of people who

19:13

can pretty much afford anything they want, probably more than

19:15

I can. And aside from that

19:17

small number of people, everyone's

19:20

going, all right, is it worth it? And I

19:22

look at, you know, going out there and spending,

19:24

you know, even if someone's doing bargain

19:27

basement, $500 a month

19:29

stem cell treatments or something, you

19:31

still gotta go on, you still gotta get injected, and then they're

19:33

from random people, right? And that would be the

19:35

cheapest thing I could ever imagine. I don't know anyone doing that.

19:38

And if they did, I'd kind of look at it a little

19:40

bit funny. So what

19:42

would the next option be? It's to go out and spend, you know,

19:44

$10,000, right? And

19:46

if you have a knee that's blown apart, you

19:48

probably should spend that because it's cheaper than replacing

19:51

the knee. And you also should take stem regen.

19:53

But if you're just looking for longevity, even

19:55

starting in your 30s, one

19:58

of the reasons I made biohacking. I'm

20:01

an expert in the longevity field before it was cool

20:03

the way it is now from running

20:05

a nonprofit. And I realized, I started doing

20:07

this in my 20s because I had the diseases of

20:10

aging, arthritis and brain

20:12

fog and high blood pressure,

20:15

high blood coagulation and all these

20:18

other problems. And so I

20:20

learned from people in their 80s who were reversing it. And

20:22

I thought, man, if people in their 20s and early 30s

20:24

would do 5% of what I had to do, they

20:28

would not age. And then there's

20:31

still like, when I was 25, did I care about aging? No,

20:33

I cared about getting laid. I was 25,

20:35

that's what you do. When you were 25, okay, and that's

20:37

okay, that's how it's supposed to be. And maybe

20:39

also having a job and career in a nice car and all that

20:41

kind of stuff. But at

20:43

that age, you're not going to age. But

20:45

since I already felt the pain of, wow, it

20:48

hurts when I walk and all this stuff, I

20:51

maybe was more keenly aware. What

20:55

if it gave you more power now and then you didn't age?

20:58

Because that's the secret.

21:00

Preventative maintenance is free compared to reversing aging,

21:03

which is what I've spent a couple million

21:05

bucks doing. When

21:08

is the right time? I mean, is it 30? Is

21:11

it 25? Is it 35? When do

21:13

you start STEM Regener? If we, let's

21:15

speak theoretically, because it's a recent

21:17

science, it's a recent product. But it's okay to

21:19

say it should be this way, but we don't

21:21

have a clinical. We don't have the background. We

21:24

don't have like the 50 years behind it. Now

21:27

that we know that there's a point

21:29

in your 30s where you don't have enough

21:31

STEM cells to offset cellular loss, that

21:34

means now you start to build

21:36

a deficit in the equation of losing cells

21:38

in your tissues and replacing them. That

21:41

means the disease that you'll develop in

21:43

20, 30 years from now started today. When

21:47

I published this whole view of the role of STEM cells

21:49

in aging in 2013, the

21:52

data was not there. It was pointing in that direction.

21:54

In that article, I said, there's one way to prove

21:57

if this is true. Let's go and count

21:59

the number of STEM cells. Held the blessing of

22:01

people who have developed any so called

22:03

age related disease and let's compare that

22:05

to healthy people today. many of these

22:07

studies have been done for the about

22:09

sixty of those you count the number

22:12

of themselves in people with diabetes, heart

22:14

disease, a liver failure of kidney failure

22:16

C O P, the erectile dysfunction as

22:18

heroes girls as Parkinson, lupus or try

22:20

to and the list keeps growing the

22:23

all out across the board. Fifty

22:25

percent or less. Than. The number

22:27

of themselves as you find in healthy people. So.

22:30

Conceptually what that means is that

22:32

the person who is healthy at

22:34

seventy years old. He's. Just

22:36

up and jazzy. A A

22:38

Genetics that make him as naturally more

22:41

stem cells in circulation than others. Everything

22:43

is dictated by a many stem cells.

22:45

yep every day for the rest of

22:48

your life to repair. Once.

22:50

We understand this. My. View

22:52

is like. Started. With more stem

22:54

cells every day and then you maintain

22:56

that the function of organs and in

22:58

my book. We. Have We don't

23:00

have enough time right now to look at

23:02

it. But in my book if there's one

23:05

strategy for longevity you can do a lot

23:07

of things to to buy your hack your

23:09

by. But from a longevity standpoints, start by

23:12

that that the starting point the building block

23:14

of health in the body support the innate

23:16

the bodies innate ability to maintain its own

23:18

health issues themselves. In

23:21

my longevity bucks, a superhuman invisible

23:23

graduate says here's how you can

23:25

add several decades your life and it's

23:27

longevity. But there are some recent sports

23:30

out by people who claim they're in

23:32

the longevity space, and the book

23:34

says. We. Can't extend

23:36

human lifespan. Your best bet is to just

23:38

exercise a lot tix satins and get extra

23:40

vaccines. Literally one of the topics and they

23:43

are. Times are now an hour slot like

23:45

this is. This is a large Isis and

23:47

it's actually embarrassing. So I'm going forty years

23:49

was it looks it works. I guess maybe

23:52

someday we'll send human life by ten years.

23:54

And. I'm like this so long as

23:56

that and this is only one of

23:59

seven. Pillars of Aging that

24:01

I read about Stem cell exhaustion is one

24:03

of the seven legs. If you only fix

24:05

your stem cells and your mitochondria are trash

24:07

is probably not gonna work as mitochondria power

24:09

since one of the only to get you

24:11

didn't together for it. But if you're might

24:13

have hundred work and you have no themselves

24:15

you're still going date exactly. So this looks

24:17

like something that. Compared to interventional,

24:20

that is far more cost effective. And

24:22

yes, to get more cells this way

24:24

anyway. And there

24:27

are some some. Treatments

24:29

coming down the line. I'm working with

24:31

a company on I P A C edited

24:33

stem cells that have certain longevity properties.

24:36

And. I'll be getting us and

24:38

then you inject as they're not umbilical cells

24:40

from random people there. Tested characterize been edited

24:42

to do specific things up. So what I

24:44

do That and some reason to keep my

24:46

own stem cell things popped up such as

24:48

I would. Yeah because the moment that you

24:51

in inject to stem cells we introduce a

24:53

new stem cells in your body's you're talking

24:55

about I P a C than their your

24:57

own that I've been sort of tweets if

24:59

the moment you put them back in your

25:01

bloodstream they go to the bone marrow. That's.

25:04

Their natural function sliced into these well. For

25:06

example yes, cancer treatment meet you get irradiation,

25:08

chemotherapy whatever than we give you bachus themselves

25:11

you don't need to inject them and the

25:13

bone marrow just put them in the bloodstream.

25:15

Go to the bone marrow the reconstitute the

25:17

bone marrow. The moment you inject one of

25:19

the stem cells it will go into your

25:22

bone marrow not use them region and you

25:24

force it not for said you supported to

25:26

get back and circulation or and go and

25:28

work in the body. Wow. That

25:30

this is cool stuff. And I'll

25:32

say if you would get some

25:35

weird herbs that we've been using

25:37

for five thousand years. They

25:40

couldn't spell stem cell that I was themselves

25:42

were and it reminds you of one of

25:45

my favorite. A recollections and this

25:47

is. If this is from a

25:49

book on shamanism, I think an encyclopedia of

25:51

it out where. They. Introduced.

25:54

Sciences. In Western scientists are

25:56

talking about. Oh.

25:59

I think this is Candice. Xbox which is

26:01

to the one who discover the opioid

26:03

receptor and. So they

26:05

put Summons and Smith Molecular Biologist

26:07

together and about sex leaning the

26:09

signaling molecules and how you can

26:11

have you know receptor for opiates

26:13

and and summoned to start laughing

26:15

and laughing and a ghost using

26:18

those things exist and and yet

26:20

they both agreed on the same

26:22

practices but one picture was very

26:24

molecular and when lox it was

26:26

very esoteric or any both really.

26:29

Cannot. Be but the results were the st

26:31

yeah. And. So the sounds like

26:33

one of those examples Is it what

26:35

you just described is my approach like

26:37

at as a scientist. I

26:39

what it produces very. Modern.

26:42

Western Science. But. My.

26:45

Inspiration. And my thought process

26:47

is to look at what worked in

26:49

history. Because Dad is real, a double

26:51

blind placebo controlled study is still in

26:53

use that I had what has happened

26:55

in those sixty individuals and they're telling

26:57

you that this will be true for

26:59

everybody. Would. You more truth? Is

27:01

what happened in these fifty people or

27:04

what people have used for a thousand

27:06

years and worked for them to for

27:08

me as a base A lot of

27:10

that research on historical experience of of

27:12

what has been the use of these

27:14

plants and that's how I choose the

27:16

plants that in your that are part

27:18

of the products he thought about history

27:20

is is a cool started you may

27:22

you may you may enjoy So I

27:25

published my book tracking stem cell code

27:27

and there's a professor of of the

27:29

of Chinese Medicine at Harvard that read

27:31

the books on the sewage resell to

27:33

meats and then she saying it's interesting

27:35

because when you describe adult stem cells

27:37

in embryonic stem cells it reminds it

27:39

reminded her and and or expertise she's

27:41

an American but she learn Chinese to

27:43

go and read super ancient Chinese look

27:46

at that. Yeah so she's at our

27:48

road with glove turning pages of these

27:50

old both and request was what was

27:52

lost. Between. Ancient Chinese

27:54

Medicine. When. it converts to what

27:56

it's called to the traditional chinese medicine when

27:59

all these sex There's the

28:01

five elements old version and then there's the

28:03

new stuff. The Chinese government actually neutered it

28:05

before they let it into the world. Something

28:07

like that. But she found in there that

28:09

you know about the qi, but there's another

28:12

source of vital force deeper than the qi

28:14

and it's the jing. And

28:16

she said in ancient Chinese medicine there were

28:18

two jings. The

28:21

primordial jing that is there on the day

28:23

of your conception and then

28:25

the postnatal jing that is there for

28:28

your life force and your growing life.

28:31

And the parameters or

28:34

the description of these two profiled

28:36

exactly like the description of embryonic

28:39

stem cells, the de-of-conception and adult

28:41

stem cells. So I asked

28:43

her what plants are known to support the

28:45

jing and she says two. Foti

28:47

stimulates the jing, goji berries circulate the

28:50

jing. So I go into the lab,

28:52

I test Foti, it triggers stem cell

28:54

release. The goji berry makes stem cells

28:56

migrate into tissues. So

28:59

that means ancient Chinese medicine already

29:01

understood from a practical standpoint stem

29:03

cells, they just did not know

29:05

that there was a cellular counterpart

29:07

that was identified to a cell.

29:09

But conceptually 5000 years ago it was

29:11

there. So

29:16

I've known several very high

29:19

level medical intuitive. Now

29:22

if you're listening to this and you're a doctor, you're either going,

29:25

your ears picked up or you're saying, good

29:27

God, I thought Dave was credible. So just

29:29

hear me out. A

29:31

couple of these are very high level

29:34

doctors and behind closed doors when their

29:36

medical license isn't at risk, they'll say,

29:38

I walk into the room and I look at the person

29:40

and I just know. And then I

29:43

run the labs to confirm what I just know. You

29:45

ever seen this? Of course. And

29:47

they teach this stuff in acupuncture school

29:49

and With Reiki and

29:51

hands on healing. So This is a human

29:53

capability. It's documented, it's been studied. Joseph Benza

29:55

writes about it, but it still raises people's

29:57

hackles. So If hackles are raised, get a

29:59

therapy. Or I'd be curious. I'm.

30:03

And I've had in my own stem cells.

30:06

That where is where Fab derived sells

30:08

cars expanded and injected at the same

30:10

time. had other types of cells are

30:12

called V cells or asked about those

30:14

minutes and without mentioning that one of

30:16

medical judas as oh he just had

30:18

a treatment but you look different this

30:20

time. I. Normally when I see that

30:22

they're like his little gold things floating around

30:24

in you like little swarm of them out

30:27

all over. but you have gold and like

30:29

a platinum color that like they're they're difference.

30:32

I would is that them as cool

30:34

as net so. Yes, That there

30:36

are things that we can pick up. The things that

30:38

that and I've worked with some very high level changes

30:40

must be we are. they test superpowers, Is

30:42

my question for a that. Guy. So let's

30:44

say we have both of those guy goes,

30:47

you bury so much go you bury would

30:49

you have to eat in order to get

30:51

this result vs. use an extract and semi

30:53

jenks I I find the nurses are so

30:56

big yeah are missing that No one can

30:58

ever do it. Yes well that that is

31:00

the secret of stem regions. You take these

31:02

plants and use you concentrate them and I

31:05

don't isolate compounds because I I mean from.

31:09

My billie from a scientific perspective

31:11

is that. Even. Though you identify

31:13

a compound that could be your active

31:15

compounds in the natural plant, you have

31:17

a soup of compounds and they all

31:19

work together So so I like to

31:21

make like. Fruit extract from

31:23

Atlanta like and sea buckthorn be A. We

31:26

have the party scene of salmon he wants

31:28

but we use all of them so in

31:30

that way to these are all concentrated plant

31:32

extracts a you may have to eat idol

31:34

know. Like like a

31:36

bowl of sea buckthorn berries to get the dough

31:38

that is near to get the assets and so

31:41

on. For each of these plans selves, you will

31:43

have to eat quite a bit to get to

31:45

get the offended isn't for it's frankly not possible

31:47

either. And things like Goji Berry, they're up there

31:49

and I shit. So. If you're like me

31:51

and your night shade sensor that which is genetic

31:53

you eat enough goji berries. the at this effect

31:55

at you're going to get arthritis from it. But.

31:58

if you get the extract it doesn't have

32:00

electins and you don't get the problem. In

32:03

fact, I even grow sea buckthorn on my

32:06

farm up on Vancouver Island because

32:08

it's one of those just interesting plants, right?

32:10

It is. Very different

32:12

that sea level compared to altitude biochemistry.

32:15

It's a fair point. When you have

32:17

high altitude or you have high temperatures,

32:19

it changes the amount of polyphenols dramatically,

32:21

even in coffee. So they have

32:23

to be grown right, they have to be

32:25

harvested right, processed right. Because you're an herbalist

32:27

and a stem cell scientist, you can pull

32:29

this off. What we use comes from about

32:32

15,000 feet on the Tibetan Plateau, which is

32:34

where, well, this

32:36

is where it's coming from, by

32:38

the way. That was where the

32:40

original idea for Bulletproof Coffee came from,

32:43

was Mount Kailash at 18,000 feet

32:45

on the Tibetan Plateau. There's

32:48

a lot of interesting stuff up there. And some of

32:50

the most impactful longevity

32:52

of these substances, cordyceps, the stuff that

32:54

works best comes from up there. So

32:57

yeah, something weird about less oxygen, less

32:59

atmospheric pressure. I

33:02

should mention that Stemregen and you are

33:04

title sponsors for the 10th annual

33:06

biohacking conference in Dallas at

33:09

the end of May and beginning of June. So thank you

33:11

for doing that. And if you're

33:13

listening to this and you want to

33:16

know everything there is to know about

33:18

this confluence of herbalism and supplements and

33:20

hardcore stem cell science, come to the

33:23

Biohacking Conference. It's biohackingconference.com. And

33:25

you'll actually be there. People can hang out with you. You'll be

33:27

at your booth. You'll be on stage. It's

33:29

going to be a lot of fun.

33:31

So biohackingconference.com guys. And Dave,

33:33

thank you. It's our honor to be there. And

33:35

thank you for the opportunity. You're

33:37

so welcome. Part

33:40

of the mission in creating

33:42

biohacking, number one is I didn't trademark the name. I

33:44

want this to be a global movement. And it is.

33:46

It's a $10 billion industry now that started from 100

33:49

people at a bar at the first biohacking conference a

33:52

decade ago. Pretty incredible.

33:54

And it's expensive.

33:56

There were times when I was so desperate, my brain didn't

33:58

work. I was spending 20% of

34:00

my take home income on just staying healthy so

34:02

that I could keep working. And no one should

34:04

ever have to be there. And

34:07

now I've gone out and I've tried all the stuff

34:09

that the crazy billionaires do. And

34:11

I write books about that. The big

34:13

longevity book, even just the most smarter, not

34:15

harder is based on upgrade labs research. Problem

34:18

is it's still too expensive. So when you

34:20

came along, we sat down, we've had several

34:22

really in-depth conversations before I would

34:25

even let you think about sponsoring the

34:27

conference, because I don't want anything that

34:29

isn't real to come in. So

34:32

you can go to stemregion.co.dave

34:36

and Christian will give you 20% off. What

34:40

this is, is a kind of a quantum

34:42

jump in letting an affordable version of stem

34:44

cells come in. So before if it was,

34:46

you're gonna need 10,000 to

34:48

$100,000 to do this. Now

34:51

you need under $1,000 to take it for several months. And

34:56

maybe you don't do it all the time because it's not

34:58

in your budget, but maybe you got injured. Maybe you're going

35:01

on a kick for the first three months of the year.

35:03

So you do this, you get your upgrade and you wait

35:05

a while and do it again. And as you become more

35:07

successful, you take it more often. So

35:10

lowering the cost of access to vibrant energy

35:12

and health is a big part of biohacking.

35:14

This is a human, I don't call it

35:16

human right because you're not entitled to this,

35:19

but you are entitled to control the biology

35:21

around. So when someone tells you, you're not

35:23

allowed to buy something to stay warm or

35:25

you're not allowed to turn the lights down,

35:28

that person doesn't understand the laws of

35:30

life. And that person probably will

35:32

end up being ground up for food at some point. Well,

35:35

because that happens to all of us when we die. We just,

35:37

you know, like that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or

35:40

maybe burned. No.

35:44

But that's, you know, you're talking about this.

35:46

I remember what I'm telling you here is

35:48

a true story. I'm probably, it's what, 2001,

35:50

2002, 2001. And

35:54

I read this article, turning blood into brain.

35:57

It was an article that was published in

35:59

2001. January 2001 I believe

36:01

and it's the first observation of a stem cells leaving

36:04

the bone marrow and going to the brain and I'm

36:07

looking at this and I'm a brain researcher

36:09

by by training We

36:11

don't regenerate the brain. That was in 2001.

36:13

The brain does not regenerate. This is what

36:15

we were all taught It's something easy, right?

36:17

It's today is crazy to think about it

36:20

But also stem cells do not become cells

36:22

of other tissues only blood cells So

36:24

to see a stem cells going into the brain So

36:27

I read this article dug in the literature

36:29

found other article start to think

36:31

about this blue green algae supporting stem cells

36:33

We did a test it was it worked.

36:35

We made an extract I shipped this capsules

36:37

of this to a friend of mine and

36:40

friends and I say this is a wild

36:42

idea here But if I'm right, I mean

36:44

we should see great results for this So

36:46

he gave the product to people with severe

36:48

emphysema I mean severe conditions and

36:51

he came back with data and when

36:53

I got back did this data Literally

36:55

the download here. I'm thinking

36:57

my god. We are putting an end to

36:59

disease Wow, and we're

37:01

20 some years later and The

37:04

concept is just hitting just preconceived

37:08

ideas marketplace Academic

37:11

forces everything but what you just

37:13

described there when you're talking about

37:16

we can this can really change

37:18

You know people's life That

37:21

was my my my thought 20 years ago

37:23

and I still fully believe in it if

37:25

people start to support their stem cells I

37:27

think we'll have a different world. Is it

37:30

ethical for? any government

37:33

to block access to

37:35

any therapeutic for someone who's on their

37:38

deathbed and late stage disease I Mean

37:42

I think the question then now will be

37:45

if I if I take their argument will

37:47

be to say then you open the door

37:49

For just about anything. So that means any

37:51

anybody dying becomes Susceptible here

37:54

here to be taken advantage of you mean

37:56

you mean by the pharmaceutical industry or by

37:58

someone else anybody? So

38:00

I thought you're talking about chemotherapy for a minute there

38:03

But but that's where I'm going with this. My point

38:05

is that If

38:08

you take that what you just said right now and

38:10

you apply it to stem cell. I think that there's

38:12

something here that is Barely

38:14

talked about and and it's

38:16

huge and it's the fact that in

38:19

the entire history of Pharma

38:22

Curing has never been part of the equation

38:25

and in many many diet

38:27

to certain dietary supplements alternative

38:30

approaches The the

38:33

idea here is to remove the

38:35

problem patch the problem increase your

38:37

quality of life But curing is

38:39

oftentimes not part of the equation

38:42

stem cells brought cure You

38:44

can repair and get rid of the

38:46

problem. It is the biggest threat to

38:49

big Pharma That Pharma has ever

38:51

seen for that reason they

38:53

came with a huge huge huge Media

38:56

campaign invisible to most people. Oh,

38:58

yeah in the early 2000 this story

39:01

that you know using stem cells means

39:03

killing babies It has never been that

39:05

ever That is dangerous

39:08

that it's all all of this like

39:10

banning stem cells because it could be

39:12

dangerous for you All of this is

39:14

just Pharma trying to suppress

39:16

something that could put an end to

39:18

disease It's funny how they're only

39:20

dangerous in the US and there

39:22

you go and Americans have mostly had to

39:24

fly to Thailand Or Mexico

39:27

or anywhere else in the world to have access to

39:29

these things Big Pharma

39:32

has used regulatory blockade to increase the cost

39:34

of medicine You're and I think a lot

39:36

of listeners know this a lot of people

39:38

with this is your first show That

39:41

might sound kind of shocking, but the evidence is is

39:44

really clear and it's actually kind of sad And

39:46

so I would just say if you

39:49

are facing The doctor says if

39:51

you don't do what I say, you'll be dead in seven days

39:54

You know, they might be telling you the truth If

39:57

you're average, but if you've supported your health you

39:59

have a abundant stem cells, you eat the

40:01

right thing, your mitochondria are 20 years

40:03

younger, maybe you're not

40:06

average, because it turns out 20%

40:08

of people might live for five years, not seven

40:10

days. So the average doesn't apply

40:12

to anyone unless they're average. So

40:14

that's the first thing to understand. So this is

40:16

why you wanna be strong and healthy before anything

40:18

happens, whether it's a car accident or whatever disease,

40:21

probably less likely to get the disease. And

40:23

then when they say there's no hope or spend

40:25

a million dollars and you might live three

40:27

months longer, well then you say, maybe that's just

40:29

not worth it. Or

40:31

you say, maybe I'll spend half

40:34

of that amount on crazy, hyperthermia,

40:38

hyperbaric chambers, and all

40:41

the treatments that might work, because

40:43

at a minimum, they'll probably improve your quality

40:45

of life, whereas some of the Western approaches

40:47

make you really sick. So

40:50

it's your right to do that.

40:52

And I was kind of being facetious

40:54

earlier, but I do

40:56

know that if I was facing a death

40:58

sentence from something, I would

41:01

do what so many people have done,

41:04

is you just do all of the biohacks

41:06

all at once. And suddenly the body does

41:08

crazy stuff. And like I said, stem cells

41:10

are important. Let me ask you this. One

41:13

of the risks of taking my own bone marrow

41:16

out and then re-injecting it is

41:18

that if I had bone marrow cancer, I'd be

41:20

spreading it all over the body. If

41:22

I'm taking stem regen and

41:25

I'm releasing my own stem cells, is there any risk

41:28

of cancer? It's

41:30

a tough question, and I'll

41:32

try to answer it in different ways. So that

41:34

question came up when we launched the first product

41:36

in 2005, so we had to test for it.

41:39

So we did a mouse study in

41:41

which we injected human breast cancer cells,

41:45

implanted them in the mice, two

41:47

groups, one group placebo, the other group we

41:49

gave them, this blue-green algae extract at the

41:51

time. And what we got in six

41:53

weeks is a 30% suppression of tumor

41:55

growth. And what I wanted to

41:57

say here, I'm not saying take this product, it's in

42:00

cancer. But generally speaking,

42:03

all the plants that are now in

42:05

stem region, it just happens that

42:08

they've all been used historically for

42:10

cancer. He bought Thorneberry used for

42:12

lung cancer. They've all been used

42:14

for cancer. And about

42:17

10, 15 years ago, I

42:19

had a colleague who was working with

42:21

sort of a cutting edge treatment for

42:23

melanomas. And what he had

42:26

found is that if you take the

42:28

cytokines that is used to turn a

42:30

stem cell into a keratinocyte, skin

42:33

stem cells into keratinocytes, and

42:35

you apply that, you take that in a cream

42:37

and just apply it on the melanoma, within a

42:39

few weeks, it's gone. And the concept here is

42:41

that highly proliferative

42:43

cells cannot differentiate and

42:46

proliferate at the same time. These

42:48

are two different functions. So if you

42:50

force it to transform into skin cells,

42:52

it stops proliferating. So

42:55

what has been seen historically, so you go

42:58

into many places where they do stem cell

43:00

injection, you go for stem cell injection for

43:02

your diabetes, and you happen to have prostate

43:04

cancer. So many have observed

43:06

that suddenly their cancer is gone. We

43:09

have seen this, we will never promote

43:11

it for this. But over the years

43:13

working with these plants, I've had so

43:15

many stories of people coming back about

43:18

cancers. So all of this is leading

43:20

me to this understanding is that when

43:22

a stem cell migrates into a tissue,

43:25

it will do what a stem

43:27

cell does, meaning release compounds to

43:29

coordinate proliferation, exosomes, exosomes, yeah, and

43:31

then release exosomes as they differentiate.

43:34

So as they differentiate, they lead

43:36

and entrain their sister cells behind

43:38

them as proliferative, and suddenly make

43:41

them differentiate. And you've put a

43:43

stop to tumor growth. That

43:45

is what we have seen over the years.

43:47

Now, if you're talking about extracting stem

43:50

cells from the bone marrow that are

43:52

cancerous, potentially in the bone marrow, and

43:55

then injecting them in the body, we

43:57

don't do that. That's a known risk. And

44:01

generally speaking, I don't know

44:03

if we have enough years of

44:05

experience to see if that can lead to

44:08

a problem or if they just own back

44:10

to the bone marrow and there's no additional

44:12

consequence. I don't know. So

44:14

with causing your own body to secrete

44:16

more of your bone marrow cells, there's

44:19

no evidence that that would release the

44:21

cancerous ones if you even had them.

44:23

And it's a rare cancer anyway. Yeah,

44:25

but it's not. We have not seen

44:27

actually for many years, many years,

44:29

I was saying, if you have any problem, disease

44:31

of the bone marrow, don't take any of these

44:34

plans that I've worked with over the years. And

44:37

I still say that as an official warning

44:39

if you want. However, over

44:42

the years, as I'm giving lectures in

44:44

different countries twice, I've had doctors coming

44:46

and telling me in their

44:49

experience and their assessment, they think that

44:51

it was unethical for me to make

44:53

this warning because they had patients that

44:55

took these products and then

44:58

they got better with leukemia, neutropenia,

45:02

too many platelets, too little platelets, all

45:04

these different kinds of problems with the

45:06

bone marrow. Many of them

45:08

normalized. I still don't use this as a

45:11

claim. I will never recommend the product for

45:13

that, but I've had enough distance

45:15

and perspective right now that I would say if

45:18

my mother or my sister had the problem, I

45:20

would give them the product. Wouldn't

45:22

it be interesting if the

45:24

Hippocratic Oath was not first, you know,

45:26

harm, which is stupid. It's

45:28

entirely possible and beneficial to take a

45:30

1% risk of harm for a 99% chance of making someone

45:33

live twice as long. I'll sign up for that twice. Okay.

45:37

Right. That would be a great deal. So.

45:39

I mean, if this oath was respected, we

45:42

would not use drugs that are the third or

45:44

fourth leading cause of death in the country. If

45:46

the oath was respected, we wouldn't have most politicians.

45:50

So Anyway, there's one in particular

45:52

who's a big environmental advocate

45:55

who I would absolutely take

45:57

out of that blanket. They

46:00

made about politicians themselves as. I'd.

46:03

Like to ask you questions is from your herbalist

46:06

spread. For years

46:08

I've been interested in ways to

46:10

was a enhanced liver function because.

46:12

We. Swim in more toxins and

46:15

we ever have before. And.

46:17

Their maids off their environmental toxins,

46:19

their even inflammatory things made by

46:21

our body because were exposed to

46:23

L a D lighting and all

46:25

kinds of stuff so the levels

46:27

higher and also to enhance kidney

46:29

function because like pigs. Humans

46:32

use or kidneys for a lot more taxes

46:34

and say ras reason rats don't die of

46:36

their died as to their livers handle more

46:38

toxins and we do. So.

46:41

Can. You censor thing? And. I

46:44

am extra bit protective of my own

46:46

kidney function of because I know that

46:48

living two hundred eighty that says killer

46:50

after the big four killers in my

46:53

book. others who britain or later books

46:55

on the fourth Horseman buzzes that x

46:57

on the for killers I didn't want

47:00

to be to us and a predictable

47:02

but you've got cardiovascular disease, diabetes, all

47:04

timers are in cancer and as are

47:06

all can linked to diabetes but the

47:09

one right after that would be. Kidney

47:12

function I people die of high blood pressure.

47:14

Kids are kidney shutdown it's it's always kinda

47:16

get it from is always secondary to one

47:18

of rain from So protecting your kid is

47:20

a be number five the community. That and

47:22

kidney stones or a massive issue today and

47:24

their a much bigger issue. Than. Ever

47:26

before. Not because we're most people

47:28

think in a meat and beer

47:31

does or phosphates don't spend twenty

47:33

five percent. Seventy percent. Sounds are

47:35

from tail and spinach and raspberries

47:37

and beads and almonds, their oxalic

47:39

acid or oxalates. right?

47:41

So to the people say you have to

47:43

exercise all the times or the you to

47:45

live longer and maybe she can actually see

47:47

subsidies when you're old that might make you

47:50

live longer. or and the evidence while or

47:52

those with the see what happens there are

47:54

less race so. When.

47:56

You look at kidneys, there's one

47:58

herbs for a longer time. chunk of

48:00

pm. Fabulous. Tommy.

48:03

With this herb as in what it does for

48:05

kidneys and kidney stones and does it work on

48:07

ah slice it does. So. So sunk

48:09

Ip address as you know in Spanish mean

48:11

stone breaker So it's it's latin name is

48:13

Valencia's near very it's it's a wheat it

48:16

grows like everywhere in South America or it.

48:18

What is one of these examples of more

48:20

says if you look at the plant in

48:22

the plane grows and it as like little

48:24

stones hanging from one of the Us from

48:26

one of the branch and are so it's

48:28

it's it's gotta tell you it is wicked

48:30

it's a better way. I did ask you

48:32

some on a show months in South America

48:34

and I ask him how do you know

48:36

that this is I mean think about this.

48:39

For. The past. For centuries they are

48:41

calling that plant some cup year Dre.

48:44

I. Did they know that That and Bridgestone? The

48:46

didn't even know what a kidney was, right? So

48:48

how did you call this plan? Kidney stones? And

48:51

they said the plane told me. Yeah. So.

48:53

The take I was gutted journey and than

48:55

the plants tell them what they're good for

48:58

So for centuries they're using sunk Up he

49:00

address as stone breaker to to break kidney

49:02

stones and a few years ago probably ten

49:04

years ago now it is those studies and

49:06

indeed if you take a t of have

49:09

Sunk Up the address what it will do

49:11

is that it will fracture a kidney stone

49:13

in million small pieces and you just pass

49:15

them without even noticing. I've never had kidney

49:17

stones but I that friends who came with

49:20

kidney stone and so far I would say

49:22

it's five out of five. Within about

49:24

a week, ten days. Their. Past

49:26

or go. Wow, I am fortunate that I've

49:28

never had a kidney stone. Ah

49:30

I also have oxalate bill that because

49:33

I'm and fortunes ravi again. And.

49:35

Just a regular begun before that and before

49:37

that him after that I was just eating

49:39

a lot of the the Paleo foods even

49:41

semi. It's know which and years old a bowl

49:43

of your diet. If I rewrote it, I would. Move

49:46

omens, raspberries and sweet potatoes down

49:48

the list. Even so you them.

49:51

but especially raspberries. Their ridiculous I

49:53

naxal it. Adds. i

49:56

look back as the wow that there was a timer

49:58

i was eating two baskets aroused a day,

50:00

every day, because they're healthy. And I

50:02

had to go to a urologist and get a camera

50:04

stuck in my pee hole all the way up. That

50:07

was very traumatic by the way. And

50:09

they're like, Never recovered. They're like, why do you have

50:11

to pee 20 times a day? And I couldn't tell.

50:13

And it was because I was getting too much oxalate

50:15

that was irritating my urethra. So I was close to

50:17

kidney stones, but I didn't get it. And I

50:20

figured that out. So do

50:22

we have any evidence that Chanka Piedra would break up

50:24

oxalates elsewhere in the body? Because there's a lot of

50:27

people listening who have oxalate toxicity from being vegan, and

50:29

they're recovering like I have been from the

50:32

vegan diet. I have not

50:34

seen that work. It would be very

50:36

interesting to look at it. The only thing I would add

50:38

to that story is that the

50:40

formation of any kind of salt crystals

50:43

in the body, regardless of their

50:45

source, is highly dependent on pH

50:48

as well. So it's

50:50

also pH. It's your intake, but it

50:52

has a lot to do with the terrain as well. So

50:54

you change the pH of the terrain, and

50:56

immediately you also change a lot of these

50:58

problems. So I would say play

51:01

with pH and something like Chanka

51:03

Piedra. Now for a deposit elsewhere, I

51:05

mean, I'll look into this. It will be interesting. I'm

51:08

getting the intuitive hit, and sometimes that's just where they

51:11

come from, that there

51:13

might be a relationship between faster

51:15

excretion of oxalate. And

51:18

I'm to the point where I don't have a lot of oxalate left, and

51:20

I can feel when I eat high oxalate fusil. I mean,

51:22

go look, that old surgery hurts. But if I don't eat

51:24

the stuff, I get nothing. I'm so

51:27

flexible, and people give me body work, and

51:29

they're like, you have

51:31

the tissues of a young person, and they

51:33

talk about tissue quality. And I think that

51:35

removing these toxins, and the more

51:37

vegan you are, the more than you get. Black beans

51:39

and all that stuff, just very, very big sources.

51:43

And it's something that isn't broken down by heat.

51:45

So maybe that verb could be really

51:47

good. We also talked about pH. Now,

51:50

there are studies, and I know this

51:53

is going to fly in the face of doctors who say

51:55

it's not possible, but

51:57

15% increase In Life. Span

52:00

for the skeptics, other

52:03

and. It's. From baking some. People.

52:05

Take a tablespoon over thing,

52:07

a couple doses of baking

52:09

soda over which. When. He

52:12

lowers kids a lot more than alkaline water,

52:14

which is kind of dumb. The So. That's.

52:17

Interesting and he says go back to the eighties

52:19

you familiar with i'm a nerd can so so

52:21

I reference and in superhuman see could handle your

52:23

Ph that way. At. What I'm doing

52:25

today is I use various forms of sit

52:28

right with minerals. It's what I do does

52:30

he do how much detail what you take

52:32

a I've I've done this over the years

52:34

with lemon juice their young so I would

52:36

squeeze of lemon and and I would deluded

52:39

a little bit of water and and do

52:41

that every and there's no better way of

52:43

that I know was a of handling Ph

52:45

in the body and and doing as a

52:47

simple practice like this because I'm with you.

52:50

I P H Water Alkaline water. I think

52:52

it's just like it flies in the face

52:54

of. Human physiology. You've got P.

52:56

H segregated into a digestive system

52:58

in it's for a few. Very

53:00

good reason. Right when you start

53:03

to increase the Ph in your

53:05

stomach, You've. Just destroyed digestion

53:07

a minute. or so many problems or

53:09

princesses are the same. So there's so

53:11

many problems that com sat down the

53:13

road from this it's itself. I've never

53:15

read my monitor health wise when we

53:17

take baking soda, doesn't onto that? That's

53:19

why I'm telling you I don't know

53:21

that literature because my first reaction would

53:24

be to say. Baking. Soda

53:26

should do something similar site although it

53:28

all number when you take baking soda

53:30

an empty stomach. And it's

53:32

that It changes. Yeah, and it what it does is

53:34

it increases. the bicarbonate buffer with the body needs to

53:36

manage ph so later on in the cycle a can

53:38

do it. When. You taking said trade

53:40

with the trade does it. Whether it's from

53:43

lemon juice or sodium citrate are protesting for

53:45

trade or something. I should loser pays for

53:47

us because it's acidic but then when it

53:49

metabolizes is it increases your kids which makes

53:51

you more neutral. The. Baking. Soda

53:53

will do something like this is not. It's

53:55

the high Ph on it's own. It's ideas

53:57

because of it's chemistry some so when you

53:59

consume. Edit: it could very well have an

54:01

effect like you're describing without necessarily changing the

54:03

pH in the stomach. I think it'll straight

54:05

up cancel hydrochloric acid in the stomach. So

54:07

if you take it with a meal, you

54:09

will have no stomach acid. But if it's

54:11

on an empty stomach, same thing

54:13

with lemon juice, that's not gonna hurt your gut, you take

54:16

it with food. I've recommended for,

54:18

since one of the first few blog posts,

54:20

good practice, sea salt, lemon

54:23

juice in the morning, because decreasing your

54:25

pH from these raising acidity, gives

54:30

you energy. And it's supposed to have an

54:32

increase in acidity from circadian biology in the

54:34

morning, and then it drops over time as

54:36

you metabolize it. So you and I have

54:38

a similar approach there. I use lemon juice

54:40

and citric acid over

54:43

various times throughout the day. But

54:46

what I wanna know is with stem region, is

54:49

there anything in it that changes my pH, or do I need to

54:51

change my pH to make it work better? What

54:53

are stem cells like? First answer will be,

54:55

let's say the blue-green algae extract, which is

54:58

what I spend, I mean, I did probably

55:00

like, what, 10, 15 years of research

55:02

on that before I started to use the other ones. I

55:04

have tons of background on that one. That

55:06

one, blue-green algae, is one of

55:09

the plant that I have used, with

55:11

which I've heard the most, people coming back

55:13

and talking about how it has helped regulate

55:15

their pH. So I know

55:18

that that plant helps pH. For the

55:20

product as a whole, I don't have data. What

55:22

I can tell you is that I have not

55:24

seen so far. I mean, we're talking here 20

55:26

years of working with these plants. I

55:29

have not seen emerge from the

55:32

stories that I've heard and the benefits that

55:34

I've heard. I'm talking, what are plea jigs

55:37

getting mobility? I'm talking huge things. We're having

55:39

a study right now on congestive heart failure.

55:42

Double, no, this one is not double

55:44

blind. So open label study. But all

55:46

the participants in the study so far,

55:48

after six months, have normal cardiac function.

55:50

This started with stable, chronic Congestive

55:53

heart failure. My Point is that

55:55

all these stories, we have never

55:57

monitored what's their diet, what's their

55:59

exercise. The size what they do with

56:01

their Ph so it's almost like the

56:04

resulted we have seen. As

56:06

been I would say independent from that these

56:08

other parameters. I'm sure there are things we

56:10

can do that will support stem cell function.

56:13

But so. Five I can say

56:16

it looks like there's nothing that is

56:18

a must that must be added that

56:20

Sunday makes it work like much better.

56:22

You. Can. Iowa

56:25

you don't have to tweak anything. But

56:27

the only thing that I have seen

56:29

know by experience I have read in

56:32

the scientific literature of the the key

56:34

to die More or two doses will

56:36

support the role of stem the money

56:39

that will I yeah it definitely does

56:41

that and it's It's funny, there's still

56:43

some kiddo skeptics out there. At

56:45

the same time, there's Quito Bros. And.

56:48

It drives me nuts because I russia

56:50

broke the bulletproof diet. Which

56:52

as to how people is a couple million pounds.

56:54

And I wrote it because I did the Cute

56:56

or Die in the nineties. It's called Atkins and

56:58

I lost fifty pounds of the hundred and to

57:01

lose and the other fifty would not move on.

57:03

And it's because I was eating battle oils and

57:05

I was eating artificial sweeteners on and I was

57:07

eating processed foods and they're all quito. They didn't

57:09

have carbs, but that didn't mean they worked. And.

57:12

Because long term cheeto

57:14

breaks most people. And.

57:16

As you as your got lining so the

57:18

board per day is. Used. To doses

57:20

as a scalpel. Go in for a few

57:22

days, use intermittent fasting with or without butter

57:25

and you're coughing. L would be danger. Coffee

57:27

a man. You. Are and

57:29

then you have some carbs and see

57:31

you can go in and out. that

57:33

appears to support everything better than just

57:35

Quito or just passing or his mouse.

57:38

And I think. It. Might

57:40

be because glial cells in

57:42

the brain require glucose. much

57:44

more so than kittens like

57:46

maintenance cells need. Sugar.

57:49

And neurons need kittens if you only

57:51

two kittens, You're. Not going

57:53

to get what you want so it's

57:55

are like go back and forth. Why

57:57

does Mct oil reverse Alzheimer's in studies.

58:00

Oh, by the big as when I

58:02

was selling Mct Oil, I wasn't allowed

58:04

to tell you that. But I'm not

58:06

selling Mct oil anymore. So there are

58:08

studies that show that Mct oil does

58:10

a reversal summers disease offense to clinical

58:12

trials as medical. Third, so did. I

58:15

magically reduce the incidence of Alzheimer's and

58:17

our population by promoting coffee which also

58:19

as affects If you were to go

58:21

to search engine besides Google that provides

58:23

accurate health information and then you'd find

58:26

some interesting things about coffee and then

58:28

you look at Mct Oil and of

58:30

memories you go Oh. Maybe

58:32

this is something that also will

58:34

support themselves. I. Suppose. To

58:37

go vegan was them region as a backer

58:39

and I am on summer done and say

58:41

okay I'm gonna do a stem subjects. And

58:44

whether this is the same if I was going get him injected.

58:46

As. Somewhere or in Mexico or something. Get

58:49

my own selves, cultured, expanded and I

58:51

would wonder hyperbaric right? Because as we

58:53

know that's gonna do it out. One

58:55

have Mct oil or go into doses.

58:57

Emptied Euro gives you enough T Jones,

58:59

you get the benefits of it. You.

59:01

Could also use some exaggerates. Tito's but not

59:03

he don't salts. You. Do

59:05

something like Teton I Q,

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which was better than salts

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because salts are apparently toxic.

59:12

To. Mitochondria according to Doctor V, each who

59:15

studied them from the forty years at The

59:17

Thing I'm as was going to him on the

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show before he passed away. And. When

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he's in his late seventies. So. What

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What? you find? His. Metabolic.

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Enhancement. Plus themselves.

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It was amazing. Everything I do as

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and then. You might also do. Later.

1:00:00

and we have the whole body intense

1:00:02

frequency specific light therapy at upgrade labs

1:00:04

all the biohacks that you would expect

1:00:06

full cms PMS gee does that work

1:00:08

on symptoms? What do you know? It

1:00:10

does so you stack everything? Yeah, and

1:00:12

it's funny if you were doing a clinical

1:00:15

study You would actually not

1:00:17

allow people to do anything because you're trying

1:00:19

to isolate this one thing to see if

1:00:22

it works And then it's

1:00:24

dumb, right? Yeah,

1:00:27

here's an example of that. Okay, we're

1:00:29

gonna test exercise, but

1:00:31

we want you to not breathe Because

1:00:34

we want all the effects of exercise like

1:00:36

well, that doesn't seem very smart. Well, it's

1:00:38

because we're a system, right? So when you're

1:00:40

investing in stem region, should you

1:00:43

get enough sleep? What do you think? So

1:00:49

I would say stack your biohats do the

1:00:51

three ones they're in smarter not harder they're

1:00:53

in superheavon for longevity and then add in

1:00:56

the stem cell enhancer at in the memory

1:00:58

gen and Then it's going

1:01:00

to make the investment in a supplement

1:01:02

pay its full dividends. Yep.

1:01:04

That's a good approach. Absolutely when I said before

1:01:07

Historically, we have seen

1:01:09

results no matter what people do I do

1:01:11

not mean that there's nothing else you can

1:01:13

do to get better results. Absolutely not Everything

1:01:16

that you described here are things that we're working

1:01:18

on Meaning when you release stem

1:01:20

cells you want to leave them and direct

1:01:22

them somewhere red lights PMF will work very

1:01:25

well for that one thing that will be

1:01:27

very useful I think it's something that that

1:01:29

you do regularly in that okay nays, you

1:01:31

know increase the fluidity of the blood Nitric

1:01:34

oxide open capillaries because a stem

1:01:36

cell can be as big as

1:01:39

20 micron your capillaries are 12 So

1:01:41

for stem cells to get into into

1:01:43

circulate first You need to have a

1:01:45

good lipid membrane so that these cells

1:01:47

are flexible So a lot of omega

1:01:50

3's in your diet so that you

1:01:52

you flute it you make all the

1:01:54

membranes more flexible then nitric oxide to

1:01:56

dilate these these These

1:01:58

capillaries you can even think of compounds

1:02:00

like phycoidone that will basically rebuild

1:02:03

the glycolyx and capillaries.

1:02:05

And as you start in stem

1:02:07

region? It's not in stem region

1:02:09

but we're coming with another product

1:02:11

for circulation for the exact purpose

1:02:13

that is we need to enhance

1:02:15

circulation from like four or five

1:02:18

different angles capillary integrity, blood fluidity,

1:02:20

membrane fluidity, all that kind of

1:02:22

stuff and suppress systemic inflammation because

1:02:24

systemic inflammation is noise in your

1:02:26

body for stem cells. You suppress

1:02:28

it, you increase your signal to

1:02:30

noise ratio of the tissues that

1:02:32

need repair. So adding

1:02:35

to everything that you describe,

1:02:37

improve blood circulation and capillaries

1:02:39

and suppress systemic inflammation. That's

1:02:41

so smart and if you think about it, if

1:02:44

everything's inflamed because you're eating omega-6 oils

1:02:47

because you thought the vegan diet would be good

1:02:49

for you and you got oxalates throughout your body

1:02:51

forming tiny razor sharp crystals, the stem cells are

1:02:53

just gonna diffuse everywhere. If in

1:02:56

stead you don't do the dumb things that

1:02:58

you thought were good, so I did them

1:03:00

too, and your body

1:03:02

calms down, there's still gonna be hot spots

1:03:04

and then all of the stem cells you

1:03:06

release with stem region will go to hot

1:03:08

spots instead of going everywhere. Correct. That makes

1:03:10

so much sense. Actually it's

1:03:13

fascinating because we I came across this like I think

1:03:15

it was 2002-2003 we had access to 100

1:03:19

or 2 patients with Alzheimer's at

1:03:22

the local hospital in in climate falls and

1:03:24

so I thought at the time early

1:03:26

thought here I bet you that there's

1:03:28

a link between the degree of evolution

1:03:30

of Alzheimer's and the number of stem

1:03:32

cells in circulation. We know today that

1:03:34

it's true for almost every condition except

1:03:36

Alzheimer's. Some studies

1:03:39

have revealed it with Alzheimer's but some studies

1:03:41

have been published showing that in Alzheimer's patients

1:03:43

you see sometimes more stem cells and

1:03:45

that's what we saw but we also

1:03:47

measured inflammation marker in the

1:03:49

blood and what we saw is a

1:03:52

direct correlation between systemic inflammation and the

1:03:54

development of Alzheimer's and then we look

1:03:56

at the phenotype of stem cells which

1:03:59

we discovered as that they're there in

1:04:01

the blood, but they have lost the

1:04:03

molecules, the protein that they use, the

1:04:05

receptors that they use to detect the

1:04:07

tissue calling for repair. So they're in

1:04:10

the blood, but systemic inflammation has nullified

1:04:12

their ability to see where to go

1:04:14

in the body. I can go into

1:04:16

more detail as to how it works,

1:04:18

what's the mechanism behind it, but from

1:04:20

that work, I start to think one

1:04:22

day I will bring a companion product

1:04:25

to stem regen, because if

1:04:27

you really want to maximize the impact,

1:04:29

you need to suppress systemic inflammation.

1:04:32

I have the genetics that make me

1:04:35

predisposed to systemic inflammation in response to

1:04:37

certain toxins. I've got the MTHFR

1:04:39

genes, I've got HLA-DR

1:04:41

genes that make me more

1:04:44

susceptible to fat-based toxins. And

1:04:46

a lot of people don't know this. You go, oh, my family just

1:04:48

seems to get sick a lot, and we have all these weird things.

1:04:50

Well, you probably have some of those things. So

1:04:53

I've managed to track those down, and so

1:04:55

I address them. The result is I'm 6%

1:04:57

body fat and used to weigh 300 pounds

1:04:59

because I know how to manage my toxic

1:05:01

load and my inflammation. So if

1:05:04

you can get a supplement that does

1:05:06

that, and I have been taking seropeptase,

1:05:08

a cousin of nadokinase, for 25 years

1:05:10

because it breaks down stickiness in my

1:05:12

blood. Oh, I had

1:05:14

a lab test in my 20s. They said, Dave,

1:05:16

you could easily die of a stroke or heart

1:05:19

attack tomorrow. Your blood is like sludge. They were

1:05:21

kind of shocked. I'm like, well, maybe I should

1:05:23

break down some thrombin and fibrinogen. I

1:05:25

do that on a regular basis, but that

1:05:27

means the delivery system for stem cells is

1:05:30

already optimized. Also, when I exercise, it works

1:05:33

better. So there's all these little things you can

1:05:35

do. And since I probably have the worst biology,

1:05:37

the worst childhood, 15 years

1:05:39

of antibiotics every month because of chronic

1:05:41

sinus infections and strep throat and all

1:05:44

this stuff, if I can do

1:05:46

this, it should be far easier

1:05:48

for anyone listening to the show. And

1:05:50

you shouldn't have to spend $2 million to reverse your

1:05:52

age the way I have and the way certainly Brant

1:05:54

Johnson was just on the show, $2 million a year.

1:05:58

If You get it right in your 20s. It's

1:06:00

not that expensive, it's way to bury it.

1:06:02

Acting more like. Twenty thousand

1:06:05

dollars over the first.

1:06:08

Ten. Years from twenty to thirty and it's

1:06:10

just. it's not that much. it's so real.

1:06:12

Money. But. Compared to was gonna calculator

1:06:14

and said the whole time we have more

1:06:16

energy in the running circles around your friends

1:06:18

are getting a promotion, you know you end

1:06:20

up having enough three spouses. Whatever you're into,

1:06:22

I'm done with whatever suffer the best. You

1:06:24

have more energy than everyone and in that's

1:06:26

it's interesting how do you do it all?

1:06:28

You do it because you manage your biology.

1:06:30

So the things that were sharing your that

1:06:32

you've taken twenty plus years of of death

1:06:34

research to share this with people. I

1:06:37

mean the concept of biohacking. You know

1:06:39

that that give that you've put forth.

1:06:41

I remember in when we discovered the

1:06:43

first set of this building algae and

1:06:46

started to develop the first crosswind. Two

1:06:48

thousand, three, two thousand and four it.

1:06:50

I remember at that time. The.

1:06:52

Message I was starting to put out there

1:06:54

is that right now the best of health

1:06:56

pot your medicine is prevention. But.

1:06:58

Prevention is just to present the problem

1:07:01

you still he still not ahead. you

1:07:03

just don't have the problems. So let's

1:07:05

talk about really optimizing like go in

1:07:07

ice reach the the best held that

1:07:09

your body can have and that is

1:07:12

what we're talking about Your stem cells

1:07:14

but we not the most circulation. I

1:07:16

still think today it's probably one of

1:07:18

the aspect of health that is still

1:07:20

not properly talked about. Four or five

1:07:23

anything anything you put into your blood,

1:07:25

anything you want improve my to gone

1:07:27

mitochondrial function well whatever. You say you

1:07:29

take much? Going to recapitalize to read

1:07:32

sells. Nothing in your blood means anything

1:07:34

is your blood does not properly reach

1:07:36

fine capillaries. It's your delivery system. Yeah,

1:07:38

that's where nutrient exchange, gas exchange, sale

1:07:41

exchange taking place a good typically circulation

1:07:43

doesn't matter which in your blood, it's

1:07:45

almost like you'd want to have some

1:07:47

infrared light therapy away like that. Like

1:07:49

you could get an upgrade. Bob's why

1:07:52

won't It Turns out there's some research

1:07:54

that I helped of fund at the

1:07:56

University Washington about exclusion zone water and.

1:07:58

how blood cells

1:08:01

are bigger than the capillaries they go through.

1:08:03

And it's physically impossible.

1:08:07

Stem cells are too, right? It's physically impossible,

1:08:09

except it works. And it works because of

1:08:12

the way water changes when it's up against the

1:08:14

membrane. And the cell squeezing.

1:08:16

Yeah, they squeeze in. There's a lot of

1:08:18

mechanics. A lot of cool mechanical stuff that

1:08:21

no drug company is ever going to fund

1:08:23

studies on. But it's

1:08:25

kind of core biology research. So

1:08:29

I'm a huge believer in optimizing that.

1:08:31

So if you take Stemregen, go lay

1:08:33

on our infrared lightbed at your nearest

1:08:35

upgrade labs, or get some

1:08:37

sunshine. Like you don't have to go spend money.

1:08:40

If you're in a place where there is sun, go out

1:08:42

there, take off your clothes, don't put on some

1:08:44

dumb sunblock for a while. You don't need to

1:08:46

get a sunburn, that's bad. But that's going to

1:08:49

change the ability of the stem cells from Stemregen

1:08:51

to get where they need to go. And

1:08:53

this is one of those things I think is

1:08:55

missing from a lot of the conversations. The drug

1:08:58

companies actually say, well, either we're not

1:09:00

going to measure that, and they're going to look you straight in

1:09:02

the eye and say we controlled for all variables, which they didn't.

1:09:04

Or they're going to say, you're not allowed to go in the

1:09:06

sunshine because it might change the study. But what

1:09:08

if you need the thing and sunshine and

1:09:11

neither one works alone? And that's how life

1:09:13

works. Yeah, it's differently, like

1:09:15

a huge flaw of so-called

1:09:18

double blind placebo controlled studies, which

1:09:21

it's funny because it's still considered by

1:09:23

the majority as like the gold standard.

1:09:26

It's not, I mean, honestly, it shows you

1:09:28

what something isolated will do, but

1:09:31

you will never let that thing isolated in your

1:09:33

life and you'll get the best results most of

1:09:35

the time when it's stacked with something else. So

1:09:38

studies, to me, I

1:09:41

listen much more to life experience than

1:09:43

to a study. They have their place,

1:09:45

but life experience is so much more.

1:09:47

All the best doctors who actually see

1:09:49

patients and make them younger, they have

1:09:51

clinical experience. Doing that and they've seen

1:09:53

what works and seen what doesn't. And

1:09:56

Then you have some doctors who like jump on the

1:09:58

bandwagon, like, yeah, yeah, I'm an anti. The doctor it,

1:10:00

but I was a surgeon three years ago.

1:10:03

A I find there is that are clinical experience

1:10:05

because they haven't been in it so they're going

1:10:07

to save in an exercise. Exercise is good for

1:10:10

here but more exercises and better. And.

1:10:12

There's there's some evidence for that. You want the

1:10:14

blood circulation, you want the strength, and then you

1:10:16

want the stem cells secretion to rid of that

1:10:18

pillar of aging in a go after the other

1:10:21

once in a structured way, but to measure results.

1:10:24

You. Need to be able to look at

1:10:26

at eight o'clock and aging clocks? Are

1:10:29

you familiar with things like aging clocks? Like

1:10:31

the Horvath clocks? A dna methylation test? how

1:10:33

old and young you are? What? you it

1:10:36

about him. I mean

1:10:38

I've not looked at that very that in a

1:10:40

detailed way. Let let me tell. Traceable Telomere which

1:10:42

is on the one of them. I

1:10:48

don't believe in it. I don't have a

1:10:50

in the reason why don't believe in it.

1:10:52

I'll I'll keep it simple. but first, where

1:10:54

do you measure telomeres as you know what?

1:10:56

I'm in lymphocyte? Us the avid three months

1:10:58

lifespan. It. Means nothing for your

1:11:00

body. You need to measure that in the tissues.

1:11:03

Number One. Number. Two. Telomere.

1:11:06

Shortening. In. The sales

1:11:08

and you tissues is a normal part

1:11:10

of their life. These cells divide. The

1:11:12

stem cell gets from the bone marrow,

1:11:14

his release gets into disuse, it starts

1:11:16

to divide. It makes of population a

1:11:18

billion cells at the end of the

1:11:20

of these telomeres and in the cell

1:11:22

should disappear. Losing your telomeres and tissues.

1:11:25

just a normal part of of of

1:11:27

of the life of the cells behind

1:11:29

the cells will come along. You.

1:11:31

Cells will come along hundreds of for me, Honestly

1:11:34

what I think you wanting tree the telomere

1:11:36

in your tissue. Flood them with new stem

1:11:38

cells that you just released from your bone

1:11:40

marrow and now you will increase the number

1:11:42

of new sales because what sales in your

1:11:45

body of the longest still have you. The.

1:11:47

Stem cells that have to commit

1:11:49

to sell you million full length

1:11:51

telomere cell turnover drives to a

1:11:53

mailing. Of course who would

1:11:55

I were the we logical under fire death.

1:11:58

He quantify it as an average. The

1:12:00

film year. If you increase the number

1:12:02

of a new cells and your tissue

1:12:04

if sunny bump up, you average telomere

1:12:07

length. I think it's the most valuable

1:12:09

waiting crease. Telomere length is funny. Stem

1:12:11

cell exhaustion and then of tissue atrophy

1:12:13

are some of the pillars of aging

1:12:15

that I go after, and superhuman. And

1:12:18

you just addressed a major thing. I

1:12:20

in the early days really excited by

1:12:22

To America Measurement Technologies, but when I

1:12:24

saw someone lose twenty years of age

1:12:26

in one week from a blood loss

1:12:28

said this is kind of the as

1:12:30

so do I look at Uma Mares

1:12:32

and if someone says the guy can

1:12:35

consistently make your to immerse forty percent

1:12:37

longer. That's. Actually interesting and useful if

1:12:39

it if it happens across multiple people. We've

1:12:41

got some good going on here. Would.

1:12:43

I rely on a single measurement with

1:12:45

might feel embarrassed to tell me anything

1:12:47

know but I would use when it

1:12:50

is very scientifically validated aging clocks. And.

1:12:54

We have hundreds of scientists around the world

1:12:56

looking at more than eight hundred thousand data

1:12:58

points around dna methylation to say okay, do

1:13:00

these predicts when you're going to die and

1:13:03

they do within ten years said we now

1:13:05

can say how old are you tissues and

1:13:07

this is a fundamental breakthrough in the world

1:13:09

of longevity. Otherwise we'd have to test something

1:13:12

and then one hundred twenty years later is

1:13:14

the out works And doesn't you know we're

1:13:16

never going to evolve as a society? So

1:13:18

the the longevity skeptics kind of the wolves

1:13:21

in sheep's clothing or out there saying. Well.

1:13:24

Since I don't believe it's possible,

1:13:27

To extend human life. therefore,

1:13:29

the research on aging clocks.

1:13:32

his quote not scientific, and

1:13:34

this is the kind of

1:13:37

nonsensical thinking that happens. Even

1:13:39

Einstein. I was quoted saying

1:13:42

well, we'll never harness the breaking

1:13:44

of the adam to make. Nuclear.

1:13:46

power it's unthinkable and we did it anyway

1:13:48

so the ability of some people to see

1:13:50

the future is limit is in the ability

1:13:53

for other people to say we're gonna do

1:13:55

this to already doing it we can measure

1:13:57

that were doing and is it a try

1:13:59

and say the things that

1:14:01

would validate STEM regen, and I would encourage you,

1:14:04

take 10 people, give them a true age test,

1:14:07

give them STEM regen for a few months and do another true

1:14:09

age test and look at what their DNA resolution is. You're gonna

1:14:11

see, you probably have done that, haven't you? We've not done that

1:14:13

yet because honestly, you

1:14:16

see, here's where I stand with it, and I'm

1:14:18

not against it at all, but my point is

1:14:20

that you take a product and then you

1:14:22

show me your results here, that's it, you've caught three

1:14:24

years, let's say, in your age. I

1:14:27

work with studies where I have a quadriplegic

1:14:29

that now has mobility. I have

1:14:31

somebody who has severe congestive heart failure and

1:14:33

then he's normal. I work with

1:14:35

things like that have such an impact in quality

1:14:37

of life, whether

1:14:39

they are three years younger with

1:14:41

their telomeres or whatever, it's like

1:14:43

so irrelevant. So

1:14:46

it's just the way

1:14:48

that we develop the science, the experience that

1:14:50

we've had, never led me

1:14:52

to think that it was something that

1:14:54

really meant something. But in

1:14:57

today's world, the way the market has

1:14:59

evolved and the concept about aging has

1:15:01

evolved, it could be interesting to look at it.

1:15:04

I would highly encourage that kind of

1:15:06

a study because you're

1:15:09

hitting at least two of the pathways of

1:15:11

aging of these seven killers that are

1:15:13

in my books. So I think

1:15:16

you're gonna see massive results and

1:15:19

I want listeners to understand, this

1:15:22

is a time when you actually can

1:15:24

become younger and symbols are one of the major

1:15:26

ways to do it. That's right, you've been on

1:15:29

the research on them, you wrote your first book in 2013 on them and

1:15:32

I've been doing them very actively for almost 10

1:15:35

years as well. To

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1:15:52

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1:15:54

to stem cell therapies for people that

1:15:57

is far more affordable and accessible. Genuinely

1:15:59

appreciate it. Thank you, Dave. Your

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