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Today on the Indo daily, the hitman
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from Vegas, and the Divorcee from Anna
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the lying eyes of Sharon Collins.
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I
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suppose you think I want to be rid of my husband
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so I can get what he has. Well,
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I do want to inherit it. I want my home
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an income, of course, but there's
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a lot more to it. In
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two thousand and six, Sharon Collins searched
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online for weight loss, diatips,
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and how to hire a hitman.
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The main reason I'm doing this is
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because he's continuously trying to force
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me to go out and pick up a stranger for
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six. He finds the idea of it exciting
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and insists I must do it or I'm out.
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And he will make sure that I've app absolutely
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nothing.
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The divorced mother of two was living with
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her long term partner and millionaire
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PJ Howard from luxury yachts
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to stylish homes, she had it all
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except for one thing, marriage.
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PJ Howard didn't want to marry
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Sharon Collins. PJ's priority was
1:27
his Goose songs, and he essentially wanted
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Robert Indo to inherit everything.
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What
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unfolded would be one of the most elaborate
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murder conspiracies that would involve
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fake marriage certs, legal poisoning,
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and a hitman from the USA. I'm
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Kevin Doyle, and today on the Indo daily,
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I'm joined by Immer Connolly, the author
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of lying eyes and a hitman for hire
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to look at one of the most infamous cases
1:53
in Irish legal history.
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Emer, who are PJ Howard and Sharon
1:59
Collins?
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Kevin PJ Howard was a
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multi millionaire businessman living in
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in
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a property business
2:07
in the town
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with property Indo and
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overseas in Spain where he Hitman an apartment
2:12
in the boat. a very low profile
2:14
individual who had never
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really cotted publicity in
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any shape or form. And
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he had been been
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married and widowed. In
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ninety eight,
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PJ Howard walked in
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to a furniture shop. And
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then as the shop was run by Collins,
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and he
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instantly throws me at
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and they were instantly
2:40
attracted to each other. And
2:42
a relationship started between
2:44
them. Indo Sharon
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was
2:47
the complete opposite in many ways
2:49
to PJ Howard was
2:52
outgoing pursable
2:54
around town, was well known, was well liked, had
2:56
been involved in a couple of businesses in the town,
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had been separated with two sons
3:02
So very quickly, within
3:04
a short period of time, Sharon and her sons
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moved into PJ's mansion at
3:08
Ballybeg House on the outskirts of
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Ennis. Indo the relationship
3:13
really, I
3:15
suppose from
3:16
those on the outside, appeared
3:17
to go from strength to strength. they
3:19
appeared to be deeply in love and
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and appeared to have a a great
3:25
future together. And it was a real step
3:27
up in lifestyle for Sharon Collins wasn't
3:29
it? It
3:30
was Sharon Collins
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had very outgoing personality, love
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to highlight, but had grown up
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in very close to
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Ennis Town Center. An ordinary
3:42
opening lived in a
3:44
terrace house, Indo
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then when she married Noel
3:49
Collins from Newmark in Ferguson, again,
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lived a very ordinary lifestyle. So there was
3:53
there was I suppose a complete contrast
3:56
to P. J.'s life where money was no
3:58
object. Sharon Collins had
3:59
worked in in various jobs. Again,
4:02
I suppose like any work Indo in
4:04
mother of two two young boys had
4:06
lived quite the ordinary lifestyle, and then
4:08
things did change. When she she got together
4:11
with PJ. You say the relationship went
4:13
from strength to strength, and she moved into
4:15
the mansion in Ennis, the holiday
4:17
abroad, the house abroad,
4:19
access to yachts, all of that. But
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there was one thing that PJ
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didn't seem inclined to agree to that Sharon
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really wanted.
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PJ Howard didn't want to
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marry Sharon Collins. PJ's
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priority was his two sons, Robert
4:33
and Sniles, who ran the
4:35
property business with him, continued to run
4:37
the property business Indo he
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essentially wanted Robert in denial
4:42
to inherit everything. And
4:44
while he pledged himself to Sharon, at
4:46
a ceremony in in Toronto
4:49
in two thousand and five. He
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made it clear to her that he
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didn't want to marry her. So they had a ceremony.
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They had a party when they come back to Ireland.
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But as far as he was
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concerned, he wasn't going to marry
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her. And
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this became a real
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issue for her for a number of reasons,
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and she said about getting a fake
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marriage, sir.
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She did. She went Collins,
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and
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she got on to a website proxy
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mergers. And she managed
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by a fake marriage search
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online
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Indo no
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issue that that arrived in the post. But what
5:25
she then did, She she he
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traveled to Cork, went down to the Passport
5:30
office, and got a passport in
5:32
the name Sharon Howard. So
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this was all part of her plan
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that, you know, if PJ, Robert,
5:39
and Nile were going to disappear,
5:42
well, She was going to inherit even
5:44
though P. J. said, hey, I'm not gonna marry you,
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but she had the name
5:46
in the passport. In
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her her eyes,
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logistics, proxy marriage Sharon,
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and this was the
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first part of her plan, which she felt
5:54
was Collins together really nicely. So
5:56
it would later emerge that this wasn't
5:58
just about
6:00
PGA being a bit older than her someday
6:03
that the likelihood was that
6:05
he would die and therefore she would naturally
6:07
inherit a lot of his fortune if they
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were married, she wanted to
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take control of the situation.
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Yes. She wanted everything Indo she
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seemed to be
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in a in a rush.
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So she'd met him in
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Indo nineteen ninety eight, and then all of
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this happened in two thousand and six, a
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quite a short period of time, really. and,
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you know, in her correspondence to
6:30
Hitman she had got in
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contact with, an
6:34
an email who she told was a hitman.
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What if the, I suppose, compelling lines
6:39
she wrote at one point was She
6:41
said, she did have a concern about what was
6:43
gonna happen to the two Howard songs who
6:45
she got on well, but but she said, PJ was a
6:47
real asshole and makes my life
6:49
hell. So she really wanted
6:51
to get rid of him Indo like that.
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Just in case the two boys
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had Annie claimed to the Inhertians
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Let's wipe the molesh. That was her plan. So she
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goes online and me and you eamer.
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Well, certainly me, yeah, III don't know you
7:04
very well, but I I have never gone looking for
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a hitman or thought about looking
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for Hitman. But if I was going to, the first
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place I would probably go is WWW
7:13
dot hitman for hire dot com.
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This was ludicrous. that
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she could sit in her office,
7:20
PJ Howard's office where she worked on
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a laptop as the laptops were later,
7:25
physically examined. and
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start doing all these searches and then came
7:29
across who she taught
7:31
was a hitman, who essentially was an Egyptian
7:33
con artist. Indo she set up
7:35
an email address lying i's ninety
7:37
eight at yahoo dot i e.
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It's it's not the most sophisticated part,
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is it?
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No. It's not. And the Lion Eye
7:45
link, she was asked about that in
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in cross examination in the in
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the trial. and she was asked about,
7:52
you know, the connection to that song
7:54
where the
7:54
beautiful young woman married the rich
7:56
older man and and her
7:58
her answer Indo
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and her her
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very almost a giggly
8:04
answer was, well, actually, Robert
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Howard was the one
8:07
who was in older music. This was the older
8:09
a j songs. I
8:10
I'm more interested Indo timberlake myself,
8:12
so it couldn't have been me. So it was
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almost achieved. She almost
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started to
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distance herself so much trauma that she almost
8:20
believed and still maintains her innocence that
8:22
she actually didn't set up that email
8:24
account. So here's this woman
8:27
because the court found this. She's emailing
8:29
higher underscore hitman at yahoo
8:31
dot com and it's from that that she
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then gets into contact with
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the
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man she thinks is going to
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kill her husband. or
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sorry, not husband, which was the problem?
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SME, tell me about him.
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Okay. So SME and the
8:47
man behind the Hitman for
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higher correspondence. He was
8:52
an Egyptian poker player,
8:55
essentially, little more than common
8:57
man. And as was found by the jury, he
8:59
wasn't convicted of
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conspiring to murder. He was convicted
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of extortion. So he was
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he was a chancellor, essentially. You
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know, after after considerable
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communication between lying eyes
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and Hitman, she sent
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money. She's fifteen thousand
9:16
euro by FedEx to
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the states. This was the deposit.
9:20
But
9:20
there was a bit more to him than
9:22
than than the high school was just the chancellor.
9:25
His wife, one of his wives,
9:27
Teresa Engel,
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and she told the court am in
9:30
her testimony that herself and
9:32
Ed had actually made the rise in
9:34
poison at their home in Las Vegas
9:36
Indo they brought it to Ireland. And yes,
9:39
there was substance to that because when he
9:41
was arrested, eventually, rice
9:43
and poison was found in
9:45
a contact lens case at
9:48
Limerick prison. And that was one of the first leads
9:50
that the guards in and his had were, oh,
9:52
hold on. Who's this guy? He's he's
9:54
accused of attempting to extort
9:56
money from the Howard Brothers. He's
9:58
in the limerick prison. Now there's rice
9:59
and poison, Teresa Engel
10:02
says that they made it cars. One of
10:04
the the boys had
10:06
this the the boys could have been killed
10:08
as disclosed to an email was. Let's
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poison them. So there was a
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certain amount of intent he always maintained. I'm
10:14
just a con man. I'm about to make a few Bob, but
10:16
he made the rison, and there was clear
10:18
evidence of that as well. So there was there were several
10:20
layers to this.
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So SME had basically thought
10:23
he'd hit the jackpot with this dysfunctional
10:25
family. Sharon Collins had given him fifteen
10:27
thousand euro he then went to the
10:29
Howard's demanding money to
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basically cancel the
10:34
Hitman it's at that point that
10:36
the Howard Suns go,
10:39
hold on here. There's something major and they go
10:41
to the guards.
10:42
Yes. That was it. So so Sharon
10:44
had had had told
10:46
Ed
10:46
to to take a computer
10:49
from the office, left at a key firm. He
10:51
took the computer, and there was an
10:53
investigation then over a break into the
10:55
office. Then
10:55
he tried to get in contact with
10:58
Sharon Collins, couldn't make contact
11:00
with her, then lost patients,
11:03
and and went out to Robert and Niles
11:06
house, all the outskirts of Ennis, brought
11:08
a laptop, brought instructions
11:10
from Sharon, brought some family
11:12
pictures that Qi had sent him
11:14
one of those was where she said, I'm the devil in
11:16
the red dress, picture her in a red dress. And
11:18
he said to Robert Harry, look,
11:20
Robert, there's a contract on your lives.
11:22
Here's some evidence. you know,
11:24
a hundred grams and you can
11:27
buy out that contract. And he showed
11:29
them some of the emails. So
11:31
Robert Howard then said, to know what and meet
11:33
you tomorrow even in it in his town,
11:35
in the old grand hotel, and
11:37
and I I give you the money to get rid of
11:39
the contract. but what he did then was he
11:41
contacted the guard. The sting was set up
11:44
eased eased Indo three single were arrested
11:46
at that
11:46
stage. And really, At that point, the game
11:48
was up because that's when all the pieces of the
11:50
jigsaw started coming together for the
11:52
Gardy. The game was up, but Sharon
11:54
Collins wasn't giving up
11:56
washi. she's arrested, she's
11:58
charged, she's brought
11:59
before the courts, and
12:01
then the things
12:03
that started to unravel would
12:05
raise
12:05
your eyebrows even further if that was possible?
12:08
Yes. This is when
12:09
when all of the I suppose the the inherent
12:11
detail came together about what the
12:13
plan was this wasn't just
12:15
around who
12:16
landed in from the states up
12:18
to the houses of
12:21
two
12:21
young millionaire brothers. there
12:23
was a lot more to it, how
12:25
had he arrived there, what was the intent,
12:27
and then I think it was of
12:29
really captured the nation at the time was the
12:31
level of detail. from Sharon
12:34
Collins, that, you know, she
12:36
was absolutely adamant
12:39
throughout that she was innocent. She
12:41
rolled to the DPP three times. in
12:43
two thousand and seven,
12:45
so the year before the trial.
12:47
And, you know, big long
12:50
detailed letters, please don't charge me. PGA
12:52
Howard wrote the GPP. Please don't
12:54
charge her. You know, she's the victim of a
12:56
scam because that's what she had led him to
12:58
believe at the time. She
13:01
she made up a fictional character called
13:03
Marie Marconi. And she said
13:05
Marie Marconi was teaching
13:07
her how to write. She wants to be an obelist.
13:09
and she wanted to develop her
13:12
imagination. And she said that
13:14
she confided in Maria Marconi
13:16
on on emails
13:16
about PJ Indo how
13:19
you know, he wasn't very nice to her, didn't treat
13:21
her well, and she was sick from etcetera,
13:23
etcetera. And then she was
13:25
blackmailed. And what she said was, She sent a
13:27
fifteen thousand year old to smoke out the
13:29
blackmail and kinda put her into
13:31
that. And and no no trace
13:33
ever found of this lady. So fictional
13:35
character again,
13:36
all part of the plot. During
13:38
all this period, PJ Howard is
13:41
still on her side. He's in
13:43
court every day during the trial
13:45
but tell me about the Jerry Ryan
13:48
emails. The Jerry Ryan emails were hugely
13:50
damaging for PJ Howard, and
13:51
this was particularly just think of
13:53
us quite a small town Midwest
13:55
of Ireland, low profile, Indo
13:58
I had worked and lived in there for several years
13:59
that I've had never heard of them except, oh, here's a
14:02
Howard man. This is his property. He
14:04
suddenly all of the
14:06
so called sexual preferences of
14:08
PJ Howard were all aired in
14:10
Indo, so she had claimed in
14:13
emails to the Jerry Rhine show, which were read out
14:15
during the trial, that
14:18
he he wanted her to work as
14:20
a prostitute wanted sex with
14:22
strangers, and essentially was
14:24
demanding from that perspective.
14:29
Jerry, I'm living in an unbearable situation
14:31
with very few real options and
14:33
decided to share it
14:34
with your listeners. In
14:35
the hope that hearing it on the air would clarify
14:38
things for me and perhaps push me into
14:40
making the move that frightens me so much. He
14:42
has a holiday home abroad
14:44
likes us to spend as much time there
14:45
as possible.
14:46
However, the main attraction from there is the sex
14:49
industry.
14:49
He uses prostitutes and
14:51
transvestites regularly.
14:52
But what he really wants is for me to
14:55
engage in what he
14:55
describes as strange sex.
14:58
I was
14:58
pressurized to pick up a stranger not sex
15:01
with or have a threesome with a male escort and
15:03
himself. He has even told me he
15:05
would love it if I would work as a prostitute
15:07
and that this would really turn him on.
15:09
He has insisted on many occasions that
15:12
we go to swingers clubs while abroad
15:14
Indo has been unbearable to live with
15:16
afterwards. as I don't want to partake in
15:18
what goes on there, I've witnessed things
15:20
that I sincerely wish I never had to
15:22
see. I haven't done any of
15:24
the things he wants me to do, Nevertheless,
15:27
every single time we have sex, I
15:29
have to describe to him in detail
15:31
what I would do if there was another man
15:33
and I had to be inventive. This
15:35
it seems is necessary for him to keep
15:37
an erection. If I
15:39
don't do this, he'll blame me for losing
15:41
his erection and there would be another
15:43
black mood. but she had sent
15:45
those sent
15:46
those emails about Hitman the time
15:48
they were sent anonymously, but all of that
15:50
was uncover when the guards went through
15:52
her computer. So Again, this
15:54
all this was really, really
15:56
difficult for PJ Howard. But
15:58
despite all of that, despite all
15:59
of the allegations that he sat in court
16:02
every day, and his sons
16:04
have found this particularly difficult.
16:06
He still stood by her during the
16:08
trial. there was a second email
16:10
then with
16:10
similar details that had been sent
16:13
from lying eyes to
16:15
the Hitman email. I
16:17
suppose
16:17
you think I want to be rid of my husband
16:19
so I can get what he has. Well, I
16:21
do want to inherit. I want my home
16:23
and an income, of
16:23
course, but there's
16:25
a lot more to it. The
16:26
main reason I'm doing this is
16:28
because he's continuously trying to force me
16:30
to go out and pick up a stranger for
16:33
sex. He
16:33
finds the idea of it exciting and
16:36
insists I must do it or I'm out.
16:38
and he will make sure that I have absolutely nothing.
16:41
Well, I will not do that. No way.
16:43
The mother of my boys is not
16:45
a slot.
16:46
Frankly, I don't care what he does. I
16:48
don't mind if he has sex with hookers or transvestites
16:50
every day, but leave me out
16:52
of it.
16:54
So that was where the connection was made that, you know, she
16:56
she said, well, hold on. I didn't send those
16:58
emails, but then, you know, the guards
16:59
drew their conclusions well, similar
17:02
content. You sent these to Jerry Ryan. Show
17:04
you've accepted that,
17:04
but you're not accepting that you were the person. But
17:06
again, this was all part of. Wasn't he? Wasn't
17:09
he with
17:09
blackmails? I'm not sure
17:11
who had access to the office, and she was
17:14
pushed on that a few times. Very
17:16
few people had access to the office, but
17:18
certainly, I didn't send any of those. So this
17:20
was all part of her her her concoction of
17:22
lies. And then at another point
17:24
in the trial, Essamid claimed
17:26
that he had actually been having an
17:28
affair Aaron
17:29
Collins himself, and that that was actually
17:31
what was going on here.
17:32
Yeah. That was that was a line that he
17:34
used. And again, she was asked about that
17:36
and absolutely absolutely no. This was not the
17:38
case. But at that point, it was so difficult
17:40
to believe because there was so much
17:43
lies who was telling the
17:45
truth? What was going on? Because there were so
17:47
many different layers to it, and and so
17:49
many of them were bizarre. And I think
17:51
particularly for those who knew PJ Howard on
17:53
the local scale, genuinely could not believe that this
17:55
was going on. And even what
17:57
happened in
17:57
the end? So in the
17:59
india end, Shurgh
18:01
Collins was convicted of conspiracy to murder the
18:03
tree, and that was later set
18:06
aside because Ed was not convicted
18:08
of conspiring with her. She was
18:10
also convicted of soliciting aid
18:12
to murder the tree. He
18:14
was convicted of extortion and six
18:16
year sentences. And again, after what
18:19
was a was over three years or so she
18:21
was she was freed.
18:23
He was freed, expedited
18:25
at home, hasn't
18:27
been seen since She has has
18:30
said, I suppose, taken taken
18:32
on her her own
18:34
life. She's resumed her life afterwards, moved
18:36
up north moved to Limbach
18:38
initially, moved up north and
18:40
involved in dog grooming instance,
18:42
again, low profile, very little
18:44
known about either herself or PJ
18:47
Howard at this stage.
18:49
He he assumed the
18:52
relative anonymacy that he had enjoyed prior to this
18:54
trial pretty quickly afterwards.
18:56
Even though he did stand by her in
18:58
in the court case and gave her a case on the lip
19:00
after he gave evidence as a
19:03
prosecution witness. He
19:05
he the relationship departed ways essentially
19:07
after afterwards. and and
19:10
he moved on and she moved
19:12
on as well.
19:15
But essentially, while it still talked about
19:17
on the streets of Venice, The trade
19:19
factor Kevin has certainly set in
19:21
no question about the impact on P.
19:23
J. who has had a quadruple bypass
19:26
before this. and she'd looked after his medicine. They always said,
19:28
I'm still happy for her to do
19:30
that. Certainly, his
19:32
life, certainly, was
19:34
was hugely imp implications
19:36
by all of this. Do we know
19:38
if he ever accepted the verdict
19:40
of the jury? The idea that
19:42
she conspired to murder. Now,
19:45
ultimately, because Eve wasn't convicted,
19:47
there was nobody to conspire away, and you can't conspire on
19:49
your own. But does he accept the narrative that
19:51
the jury accepted? We
19:53
don't know initially as
19:56
as he he remained loyal
19:59
and visited her and Chris know that the
19:59
the sense was that he
20:02
didn't because she she certainly never
20:04
did and she always
20:06
maintained, I'm not lying eyes and still
20:08
maintains that. as far as I'm
20:10
aware. And Bolsh afterwards,
20:12
and he did he did park company
20:14
with her. So one wonders what he's
20:17
his views were afterwards, but,
20:18
you know, difficult to imagine, but
20:21
certainly, he had all the appearance
20:22
throughout the trial. Indo
20:24
in the immediate aftermath of the trial that he very much believed
20:27
her and supported her in
20:29
every way.
20:33
Indo
20:33
my thanks to Mark Connolly for telling
20:36
us the story of lying eyes,
20:38
also thanks to Margaret Connolly as the
20:40
voice of Sharon Indo Collins. I'm
20:42
Kevin Doyle, and today's episode was
20:44
produced by Mary Carol, researched
20:46
by Garrett Mulholl, with sound by
20:48
Gavin Hennessy, archive clips from OrTE
20:50
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20:53
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20:55
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