What do mental models, innovation, and Star Wars have in common?
In our first episode, we explore the career and motivations of one of the top innovators at the Department of Defense, Ben Bain.
Listen for Ben's takes on culture in government, the relationship between public and private sectors, and what it's like to work inside the five-sided building on the other side of the Potomac.
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