We often talk about school segregation from a racial and /or class perspective, but an equally concerning issue is the segregation of kids based on dis/ability. And while many disabled students are marginalized by our educational system, it is particularly true for students of color. It's an overdue conversation for us on the podcast, and it's an important one, because, as the conversation makes clear, all forms of oppression are linked together, and destroying one will require them all to fall. We are joined for the conversation by Joyner Emrick, a disabled person with two disabled kids, and Shubha Balabaer, a non-disabled parent to a disabled toddler. They both offer insight and vulnerability about a subject that is often hard to talk about. From the choice for person or identity first language, to the medical vs social model of disability, the conversations lives in the nuance of a complicated topic. We try to ground ourselves in the disability justice movement and its dedication to dismantling systemic oppression. It is clear that the fight for disability rights is inextricably linked to the fight for social justice and equity for all.LINKS:

Sins Invalid's 10 Principals of Disability Justice

Shelley Moore's video about "the outside pins"

Ableism Enables All Forms of Inequity and Hampers All Liberation Efforts- Truthout

Incarceration and Ableism Go Hand in Hand - Truthout

Dear Parents Who Want to Keep Their Nonspeaking Children Safe as They Go Out Into the World - Communication First

A YouTube Playlist of "Lessons in Liberation" an abolitionist toolkit for preK- 12 education.

Shubha's incredible zine about their experience

An episode of Prentis Hemphill's Finding our Way podcast called "Reclaiming Ugly"

An episode of the Groundings Podcast on ableism

More from Shelley Moore on "scaffolding complexity"

PBS Educators series, The Circle Makers

You're Going to Love This Kid!: Teaching Students with Autism in the Inclusive Classroom - Paula Kluth on creating educational spaces that can include everyone

A helpful guide to person / identify first language from the NIH

A study on identity vs person first language from autism stakeholders

Disabled Activist, Imani Barbarin's website

Being Heumann: An Unrepentant Memoir of a Disability Rights Activist - Judy Heumann

Dr. Susan Faircloth on our show

ACTION STEPS:

Normalize asking "What does your body need?" - the answer is never "nothing", but it might be "all of my needs are being met right now".

Ask if disabled people are involved in the creation of services, curriculum, and other supports for disabled people.

Make use of the resources in these show notes.

 Use these links or start at our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us.Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further.Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – @integratedschls on twitter, IntegratedSchools on Facebook, or email us [email protected]’re proud members of Connectd Podcasts, a network dedicated to helping shows like ours grow and thrive. For more info, or to check out their other amazing shows, head over to their website.The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits.This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits.Music by Kevin Casey.