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light of a tragedy, a

1:03

bizarre tragedy. Sounds

1:08

like just terrible luck, but I assume we're

1:10

going to find out whoever is in

1:13

charge of the ship that plowed into a

1:16

bridge in Baltimore. Maybe

1:18

they're at fault. Maybe it's just terrible bad luck.

1:20

Maybe it's mechanics. Whatever it is, why

1:22

this cargo vessel is floating towards

1:24

a bridge and brings it down.

1:27

You know that by now. A bridge was

1:29

knocked down at 1.30 in the morning by

1:32

a, I believe it was a South

1:34

Korean cargo ship. Singapore.

1:37

I thought, yeah, okay. Or was it on its way to Singapore?

1:40

Either way, it's a cargo ship. It's

1:42

floating. It loses

1:46

its ability to control

1:48

itself, lack of a better term, and

1:50

then plows into a bridge and cars

1:54

and people fall into the river.

1:57

One of whom, was

2:00

rescued and didn't even go to the hospital.

2:04

That's got to be at least a hundred feet

2:06

into 42 degree water. So

2:09

it's a bizarre tragedy.

2:11

Okay, but by now I assume most

2:13

people by now have

2:16

watched the video

2:18

footage, the slow-mo video footage

2:22

early in the morning of this

2:24

ship just floating along and

2:26

then it just plows into the bridge.

2:30

And do you feel, this is

2:33

something for all of us to take in. We

2:36

can always talk about how our tragedy is covered.

2:39

Do you think it's responsible coverage,

2:41

irresponsible coverage? We live in a

2:43

time where there is instant access

2:45

to stuff that happens. Okay,

2:48

that's the time we live in and it's

2:50

gonna be posted almost instantly as well. So

2:53

most of us, first thing in the morning, if

2:56

not overnight, watched

2:59

the video footage of this ship slowly,

3:02

slowly, slowly crashing into this bridge

3:04

and the whole thing comes down.

3:06

It's just, it's remarkable. And

3:09

yeah, yeah, we all notice the cars going across and

3:11

we all can't help but think, wow,

3:13

that person made it, they didn't. But

3:18

an interesting thing came up. So

3:20

the mayor of Baltimore, who

3:22

I think has handled himself very well in

3:24

light of the tragedy, is on

3:27

CNN. Now, since

3:29

we're all consumers and we're all sort

3:31

of in this together, I'm

3:34

just curious how people feel about

3:36

his criticism. One

3:39

of the things he says other than the right stuff

3:43

about, hey, we're trying to find people right now, we're

3:45

in a rescue mission, that kind of stuff, and they're

3:47

doing all they can, nobody's denying that. And he said

3:49

all the right things. But one of the things that

3:51

he came back and said is I really wish you

3:54

would stop showing, stop

3:56

showing the footage of the

3:58

cargo ship crashing in. into the bridge. And

4:03

it made me think, wait, should they? I

4:07

don't know. I don't know that I agree with

4:09

that. I don't even know if that's reasonable. I don't know

4:11

if that's possible. I think we

4:13

could all appreciate that families would not

4:16

want to see it. We get that. At

4:18

the same time, we live in a world where we

4:20

have access. So I'm

4:23

just curious about how people think about

4:27

him saying, please stop

4:29

showing this. I

4:32

think we could all answer and say, but we're going

4:34

to keep looking at it. You're

4:36

going to keep watching it. You can't help but watch it.

4:39

I don't know. Maybe you feel guilty if you've watched

4:41

it more than once or watched it more than ten times or

4:43

showed somebody else. I don't know how you feel about that. It's

4:46

just kind of an interesting finger pointed

4:49

at all of us, including news

4:52

organizations who are covering this.

4:54

And yes, the video has been out there for

4:56

some time. The video is played constantly, and we've

4:58

looked at it constantly. Is there fault

5:00

to be had from what this mayor is talking about? I

5:03

want to get us to Mayor Brandon Scott, the

5:05

mayor of Baltimore, who is with

5:08

us right now on the phone. Mayor Scott, first of

5:10

all, I just want to say that I am so

5:12

sorry that your community is going through

5:15

this right now and that there are

5:17

families wondering and worrying about

5:19

their loved ones at this hour. Can

5:21

you tell me so far what you

5:23

know about exactly what happened

5:25

here to the Francis Scott Key Bridge?

5:29

Well, listen, we have an unspeakable

5:31

tragedy. We know that this

5:33

vessel struck the bridge and the bridge

5:36

collapsed. There were individuals

5:38

working on the bridge at that

5:40

time. There

5:42

are cars in the water. Our fire department

5:44

has confirmed that as they lead

5:46

this ongoing search and rescue mission through

5:49

SONAR, that is where our

5:51

focus is. It's about those souls and people

5:53

that we're trying to find to

5:55

get out of this water. We know

5:57

that there's going to be questions

5:59

about the bridge and traffic and the

6:02

port. But right now, everyone in this

6:04

world's focus should be about these souls

6:06

and those families who are wondering if

6:08

these people are gonna walk back in

6:10

the door after they walked out to

6:12

work last night. Yeah, that's a

6:14

really good point, the anxiety of

6:16

all this. And then plus just

6:18

watching the video of what happened

6:20

and how quickly the bridge failed.

6:23

Can you give me some sense of

6:25

what you thought at first

6:27

light this morning when you

6:29

saw the pictures of actually

6:31

what that bridge looks like with the

6:33

barge slammed into it there?

6:35

What were your initial thoughts? Well,

6:39

it was something out of an action movie. It's

6:41

something you never think you would see. And

6:43

being here right now looking at it

6:45

is even more surreal. And it just

6:48

makes you think about, again, those families,

6:50

those individuals that were on that bridge,

6:52

those folks that are even on that

6:54

vessel even more because no

6:56

one should have to endure. And I'm

6:58

gonna be the first to ask that

7:01

CNN and everyone else stop showing the

7:03

video. No one needs to see a

7:06

possibility of their family and them

7:08

being severely injured otherwise over

7:10

and over and over again because it's

7:13

just traumatizing our community. Do

7:16

you agree? I

7:20

mean, maybe it is. I don't even know if it's practical. I

7:23

don't know if that is a, it's

7:26

an understandable request. The guy's living through it. He's

7:28

talking to these people. He's talking to these families. I think

7:31

we all could appreciate his perspective on this. I just don't

7:33

know how, I

7:35

mean, if the CNN anchor, I

7:37

can't remember what time this was, turns and says,

7:39

yeah, yeah, we gotta stop showing this. I

7:42

don't know. I don't know if

7:45

that's practical. I'm

7:47

not sure that's completely true. I

7:49

think it's impossible not to look and go, I cannot believe

7:51

that happened. I can't believe the way that looks. I

7:54

don't even think any of us are saying anybody's

7:56

at fault yet. Except well, why the bridge, why

7:59

the boat? couldn't turn. It's

8:04

an interesting criticism that I think we all have to

8:06

take in. Should

8:09

it be shown? Again,

8:11

or once, or if you're running

8:13

a news organization. First

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8:18

a tiny blip on the media

8:20

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8:23

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8:27

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8:31

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8:42

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8:46

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8:48

those of us that are older. I

8:51

don't even know. It's impractical. Say,

8:54

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14:32

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14:34

owner of the Dallas Cowboys, the general manager and owner

14:36

of the Dallas Cowboys is

14:39

clueless. I'm not gonna say that. I think

14:41

he can handle a balance sheet just fine.

14:43

He knows still how to make money. He

14:45

might even know a little bit about football,

14:47

but publicly when he starts

14:49

talking, it's not going well. It's

14:52

not. He is

14:55

a shockingly bad communicator.

14:59

He's all over the

15:01

map and

15:06

he got busted. I say busted

15:08

as in his rambling. He

15:11

got everybody talking. So here's

15:13

the setup and then oh my gosh.

15:16

Oh no, no, no. No

15:18

old man. Stop. NFL

15:21

owners meetings are happening right now. They're

15:25

a big deal because the

15:28

next season, the rules of

15:30

next season, the NFL are being decided

15:32

as we speak. The

15:35

NFL does not mess around. This ownership

15:37

does not mess around. They're not like

15:39

college football where it takes committees

15:41

of subcommittees of more subcommittees to

15:43

make decisions that take years. They'll

15:46

make a decision in an hour and

15:48

next season has changed and I think that is

15:50

a good thing. The NFL

15:52

does everything it can to give the viewer the

15:55

best product you can see. That's

15:58

their business and they stick to it. it

16:00

and they live by that and I think that's

16:02

that's a great thing that's why the NFL does

16:04

so well so the NFL owners meetings are going

16:06

on right now and that

16:08

means everybody's there and everybody needs to be served

16:10

up to the media and everybody needs to talk

16:12

and answer for their franchises Oh

16:16

Jerry okay um well

16:19

there's a lot to this so

16:21

Jerry Jones is now everywhere

16:24

you look is quoted

16:27

as saying we're all

16:29

in and then everyone is

16:31

left to decide what exactly Jerry

16:34

meant or is meaning by we're

16:36

all in and then when reporters

16:38

started asking Jerry because he's sitting

16:40

at a table at the

16:42

Ritz Carlton somewhere in Florida and reporters

16:44

start grilling Jerry what exactly did you

16:47

mean what exactly are you talking about

16:49

old man yeah

16:53

okay so he says we're all

16:55

in there's no real

16:57

definition of we're all in even

16:59

though he tried we're all in and it didn't work

17:01

out so well it seems

17:04

to me that he

17:06

means or he tries to

17:08

say we're going to do

17:10

and bring in whatever players

17:13

we need to bring in and pay whatever

17:15

we need to pay to win

17:18

big right now winning

17:20

big right now seems to me

17:23

that he means getting to

17:25

a Super Bowl right

17:28

away okay that's where

17:30

the whole thing started he started off

17:32

I'm sure he had it written down

17:34

on a piece of paper I'm gonna

17:36

say today all in or maybe it

17:38

just came to him and

17:40

then he tried to explain all in and

17:42

it just it

17:45

spun out of control he's

17:47

not all in I don't think

17:49

he knows what he is even talking about

17:51

we're all in it's not true

17:55

he's not all in in fact Jerry

17:58

Jones is managing and has

18:00

managed the Dallas Cowboys and

18:03

is currently managing the Dallas Cowboys like

18:06

he's a 50-year-old man. Like

18:09

he's a 50-year-old man that has a lot

18:11

of time to build his

18:13

team and the franchise. Now

18:16

I say that because that's not just about his age because

18:18

he doesn't have that kind of time. And

18:20

even if you say, well, Jeff, are you implying the old

18:22

man is going to die? That's not what I'm talking about.

18:24

I'm saying you don't have time in pro football. This

18:27

guy operates in a weird way, in a weird

18:29

time warp. It's

18:32

not practical what he's trying to say. I'm having

18:34

to work really hard to tell you what he's trying

18:36

to say. We're all in. We're going

18:38

to get this thing done and we're going to get done right now. But

18:40

yet he doesn't do any of that stuff. He's

18:44

not all in. The way he's trying

18:46

to say he's all in and then reporters asked him

18:48

about it and then he backed off of it and

18:50

things got worse for him. Time

18:53

doesn't exist in the NFL. See

18:56

if you agree with this. I don't

18:58

think fans look at it this way. I don't think he

19:01

looks at it this way and he should be looking at

19:03

it this way. But in

19:05

the NFL, I think you have three

19:07

year windows. That's it. That's it. And

19:10

it really has to work like this. You

19:12

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19:15

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19:17

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19:19

to four year run, blow it up, do it again.

19:24

You don't plan five years down the

19:26

road. You certainly don't if you're

19:28

85 or whatever he is. But

19:30

you have a three year run. That

19:32

cycle ends. You blow that thing up. In other

19:34

words, you get out of those contracts. And

19:38

you move on and you do it again. You

19:41

do it like the LA Rams did it. That's

19:44

all in. That is all in.

19:47

The Rams won a Super Bowl by going all

19:49

in. Go find the players,

19:51

get them here, pay them. We're going all

19:53

in. We're going to suck in two years

19:56

and then we'll rebuild the process again. So

20:00

right now we've got to win now, so just go now. Jerry

20:03

sounds like a guy who has like

20:05

some kind of six or eight year

20:08

plan, and that's not practical.

20:11

It's not practical given how old he is,

20:13

and it's not practical given the economics of

20:15

the NFL and how the NFL really

20:18

works. It was a really

20:20

disturbing—I'm going to read you what he tried to say. This

20:22

isn't a good look for him. It's

20:24

not. What he tried to

20:26

say coming across is the old guy who's

20:29

completely out of touch. It didn't work. And

20:31

he got busted on saying all in, then he tried

20:34

to correct it. Here

20:36

he goes. Jerry Jones at the owner's meetings,

20:38

of course they sit down, these owners do. Some

20:40

of them, most of them don't want to talk, and nobody

20:43

wants to talk to them. But of course

20:45

he is the face—he

20:47

is one of the faces and

20:49

most powerful, three most powerful people

20:52

in the NFL over the past 25 years. Might

20:57

be the most powerful. He

20:59

says, we get to be the world

21:01

champion of how it works when you

21:03

don't have as much money, but make

21:06

no mistake about it, with every tool

21:08

we got, we're all in. Does

21:11

anybody know what the hell he's trying to say?

21:15

We get to be the world champion of how it

21:17

works when you don't have as much money? We're

21:20

all in. We're all in. As

21:23

a matter of fact, this is

21:25

rolling the sleeves up and more all

21:28

in here than we were last

21:30

year or the year before. It

21:33

can impact us for, in some cases, five

21:35

years down the road. Okay, again,

21:37

those are fragments. He's not making any sense.

21:39

He sounds out of it. But

21:43

at the end is the mistake. You're not five years down

21:45

the road, man. Nobody operates

21:47

in pro football five years down the road.

21:50

Nobody can't. That's not

21:52

how you build a team. You build a

21:54

team for three years, then you start over,

21:56

because that's the way it has to work. goes

22:00

on to say, Jones

22:02

believes, this is Yahoo Sports reporting,

22:04

Jones believes that if the Cowboys

22:06

advance this season, again,

22:09

what exactly is that even mean?

22:13

If they advance this season, they'll do

22:15

so because Dak Prescott will have risen

22:17

still further from his career-best 2023 regular

22:19

season. Okay.

22:22

Jones says, I regret

22:25

not winning. Frankly, I regret not

22:27

winning the Super Bowl. And

22:30

really, while our fans might take exception to

22:32

that, where we have spent this

22:34

money, we've been hanging around the rim pretty

22:36

good. Let's

22:39

answer that, everyone. No, you haven't,

22:41

old man. You're not hanging around the

22:43

rim at all. What

22:45

are you talking about? How

22:47

could you say that? I'm

22:51

telling you, I'm a little bit concerned

22:53

about the way it communicates. I

22:55

am actually. But if

22:59

he wants to say, I regret not winning, I

23:01

regret not winning the Super Bowl. Does the man

23:03

not know he got smoked in the first round

23:05

of the playoffs by the Green Bay Packers at

23:07

home? They're not around the rim at all. They're

23:11

far away from the rim. We've

23:15

been winning a lot of games, he says. That's

23:18

what has transpired with us, spending that money

23:21

the way we spend it over that. I

23:26

would agree with you. Satisfactory to sit

23:28

here and not have advanced these last

23:30

two or three years. Well

23:33

absolutely not. Nobody

23:35

did good enough. For

23:39

our fans to have those results, and

23:42

am I okay with that? Of course I'm not okay

23:44

with that. Okay, well that's

23:46

reasonable. Yeah, it's not good enough.

23:49

Says the guy who says we've spent money real good,

23:51

quote, and we're hanging

23:53

around the rim, and then he says, but

23:55

we're not good enough. That

23:58

sentence right there, by the way. Why

24:02

did you retain your coach? Would

24:06

anyone say that the Cowboys were hanging around the

24:08

rim? Real

24:10

good, as the old man says. The

24:13

Cowboys already have Dak Prescott, C.D. Lamb and

24:16

Micah Parsons under contract for 2024, blah, blah,

24:18

blah, blah, blah. He then goes on to

24:20

say, Jones

24:22

says he believes there's, quote, probably a

24:24

handful or more quarterbacks playing that haven't

24:27

won a Super Bowl that will win

24:29

a Super Bowl. Is

24:32

there? I don't

24:35

think so. I mean, who

24:37

would they be? I know he's thinking of Dak Prescott. Okay.

24:41

Would Jalen Hurts be one? Would Lamar Jackson

24:43

be one? Would Brock Purdy be one? Would

24:45

Dak Prescott be one? There's four. Anybody

24:47

got others? And

24:52

this comment

24:54

is the most dramatic. I

24:57

think it has to do with a better

24:59

coordination between the coaching, certainly the

25:01

managing, but the coaching as to what you

25:03

get when you're relative to what you're trying

25:06

to win games with. What

25:08

sentence does that mean? What

25:10

does he mean? Better

25:13

coordination between the coaching, comma, certainly

25:15

the managing, comma, but the coaching,

25:18

comma, as to what to do when

25:20

you get relative to what you're trying to win games

25:22

with. Your

25:26

strategies, who you're paying that needs

25:29

to be really coordinated differently. I

25:31

think we can improve on that.

25:34

If I look back and we've had

25:37

Pro Bowlers, did we get the absolute

25:39

best execution and best chance to win

25:41

in advance in the playoffs by using

25:43

those Pro Bowlers who just happen to

25:46

represent 60% of your salaries? Did we

25:48

get the most out of them to

25:50

win games? I

25:54

think what he tried to say when he couldn't

25:56

finish the sentences properly is Well,

26:00

we have a lot of pro bowlers, and

26:02

it seems reasonable that pro bowlers make

26:04

up 60% of your salary. I

26:07

suspect probably more than that. That's not bad analysis. I know

26:09

he didn't say it that way, but I'm going to help

26:11

him here. But then he ends

26:13

up by saying, did we get the most out

26:15

of him? And he seems to be answering his

26:17

own question, which begs the next question, why did

26:19

you retain the coach who you just said is

26:21

doing a lousy job? You

26:25

basically said we gave our coach a

26:28

lot of pro bowlers. That's

26:31

what he's trying to say. Why

26:34

did you retain him? You

26:36

kind of threw him under the bus. If you could

26:38

make sense of anything, you would have thrown him under

26:41

the bus. If you were clear

26:43

at all, you were trying to throw him under

26:45

the bus. And I'm fine

26:47

with that, except for the fact that you

26:49

retained him when you're saying, I

26:51

gave this guy the pro bowlers, I

26:54

gave him a chance to win, we all

26:57

did the math mostly correctly and had 60%

26:59

of our salaries are made up in pro

27:01

bowl players, which is probably accurate, then why

27:03

the heck didn't you win? And why would

27:05

you not hold the guy accountable for that?

27:08

This is where he's backed himself into a corner.

27:11

If anyone could even begin to understand what he's

27:13

trying to say, somebody would naturally go, well, why

27:15

did you keep him then? Why

27:18

is he still your coach? Jerry

27:22

goes on to say, and he's rambling, sad

27:24

rambling. My number one thing is I would

27:26

say to you, and then

27:29

I would say to Mike McCarthy, I'd say

27:31

to anybody there is, if

27:33

you're going to pay him, use him. Well,

27:36

yeah. Drooling

27:38

fool, what do you mean? You're paying

27:40

guys you're not using? What

27:43

does that even mean? It's a bad look

27:45

for Jerry. It didn't go well. It's

27:47

a headline that's sort of all over the place now.

27:50

We're all in, and then reporters brought

27:52

it up to him. He tried to cover his

27:54

tracks and make sense of it, and then it

27:56

was like Joe Biden-like rambling. It didn't

27:58

work at all. But he's

28:01

trying to give himself credit to say, look,

28:03

I've given the coach good

28:05

players. And he has. Yes.

28:09

I've given the coach Pro Bowl players. We've

28:11

spent 60% of our money on Pro

28:14

Bowl players. That seems like a pretty

28:16

decent plan too. And it hasn't worked.

28:19

And he's now saying the coordination between management

28:21

and coaching is not as good as it

28:23

needs to be. None

28:26

of that has to do with we're all in because

28:29

he ruined we're all in by saying five years down

28:31

the road. There's no such thing

28:33

as five. There's no such thing. You can't

28:35

manage pro football for five years.

28:38

You can't. Bad

28:40

day for Jerry. It really is. Um,

28:43

I don't know who can tell him

28:45

to stop talking, but somebody needs to

28:47

stay, please granddad, stop talking. Stop

28:50

talking. If

28:52

Mike McCarthy could understand things better, he

28:55

would say, I believe on man, you

28:57

threw me under the bus. I believe

28:59

today at the Ritz Carlton, you said

29:01

you've given us me a bunch of Pro Bowl

29:04

players and we haven't delivered the goods.