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0:36

Jimmy

0:36

is president Joe Biden calling

0:38

you on the telephone.

0:40

Glad I got you on the Dore. Same

0:43

here, mister president. What's on your mind today?

0:45

What's

0:46

on my mind? I'd tell you what's on my

0:48

mind. A

0:49

particular number. What would that

0:51

number be? I'll

0:53

tell you what number. Sesame Street

0:55

-- Mhmm. --

0:56

forty five point five

0:59

percent. Is that that's your approval rating,

1:01

I assume? According

1:03

to USA, did they pull

1:05

yes? I

1:06

feel like I'm walking on the moon. You

1:08

know, that's still less than half the population,

1:11

mister president. Yeah.

1:12

But at least it's in a range. Normal

1:16

range. A president

1:19

who just his doing that well. Mhmm.

1:22

Before it was so low, it maybe looked like

1:24

a total jagged off.

1:27

I mean, I acted like didn't bother me,

1:29

but

1:29

of Dore, it did, man. I

1:31

I see. And

1:33

this uptake makes sense, Jimmy. We've

1:36

had a string of successes lately. Brittany

1:39

Greiner has been freed from a Russian prison,

1:42

shooting hoops back home in Texas,

1:45

our national nightmarish over.

1:48

Jesus.

1:50

Hopefully, this will make the W NBA

1:52

so popular. They

1:56

won't have to play exhibition games

1:58

in Russia and

2:00

Okay.

2:03

Plus, inflation has been

2:05

curbed. Gas prices are falling

2:07

to normal levels again. This

2:10

loose thing of the squeeze is coming at a crucial

2:12

time. And Jimmy,

2:15

I just had the honor of signing the respect

2:17

Dore Marriage Act It's

2:20

such a beautiful ceremony in the Rose Garden.

2:22

Cindy Lawmaker got up there

2:25

and just sank a little hard happens. Yeah.

2:28

That sounds nice. Mhmm. He

2:31

wasn't in Friday, wasn't scheduled

2:33

to perform. That didn't

2:35

stop that plucky broad from grabbing a

2:37

mic and going to town.

2:40

I

2:40

think she's still in custody. I should probably

2:42

check on that.

2:44

And Jimmy, it was so progressive.

2:48

We

2:48

had a drag queen there.

2:51

A drag queen, it does those cat shows.

2:54

This person is a this

2:57

person's in a gay marriage, I assume?

2:59

No.

3:01

Just an activist. And

3:03

we could have gone with any activists,

3:05

but we chose one who's one

3:07

of these drag queen for kids type

3:09

people. That's how much a

3:11

finger is on the pulse.

3:14

Red meat for the base baby. Did

3:16

they perform as well?

3:20

Well, considering one of their songs called

3:22

show me dick. You

3:24

can find on YouTube. We

3:26

decided no. I

3:29

mean, we're progressive. Dore I

3:34

see.

3:37

And that was my goal. Not everyone agreed.

3:41

Harris got so drunk and high on whatever

3:43

she does. She started

3:45

yelling, show me a dick. I'm

3:48

not gonna And so we had to, you know, we had

3:50

to get her out of there like we sometimes.

3:53

But, you know, whatever. Yeah. Hardwood

3:55

enough first. What's next on the Biden

3:57

success docket? Africa.

3:59

Yeah. I see. You're gonna go to Africa.

4:03

No, man. Jimmy,

4:05

I'm pleased to be able to see where you host

4:07

in the second US Africa leaders

4:10

summit. The second annual

4:12

No. Second one since

4:14

two thousand fourteen. Okay.

4:17

And I'm gonna be honest with you. The US

4:19

hasn't done shit for Africa since.

4:22

Get none of the promises. So

4:25

that will be an action item for the

4:27

second summit, an autopsy

4:29

of the failure of the first. Sounds

4:32

productive. Not

4:34

only that check. We are

4:36

a substantial shit to offer the Africans

4:39

this time. First

4:41

of all, get this fifty

4:43

five billion in aid to

4:45

Africa over three years. Well,

4:48

you're giving an entire continent less

4:50

foreign aid than you've given the nation

4:52

of Ukraine.

4:55

Well, yeah. But I don't think there's much

4:57

armed conflict in Africa these days.

5:00

But

5:00

not only that, We

5:02

are appointing a special representative

5:04

for Africa leader summit

5:07

implementation.

5:09

That's right. You Dore me. And

5:13

if you act now, you

5:14

will also get a free

5:17

US promise to get the African Union

5:19

a permanent seat in the g twenty offer

5:21

Dore after thirty days. Wow.

5:24

That that should really reset

5:27

US Africa relations. It's

5:29

fucking better. Because

5:31

Russia and China are beating her ass over

5:33

there. China is building them an

5:35

entire infrastructure, and Rand

5:37

Rand should sell them cheap weaponry. We

5:40

have to reestablish ourselves as Africa's

5:42

friend. But not make it seem

5:44

like we Dore using them as international

5:46

pawns. It's

5:48

a delicate line, but I think we can walk

5:50

it. Matt,

5:51

at the summit, maybe you could have that drag

5:53

queen sing show me your dick.

5:55

Well,

5:58

I'm not sure the gentleman from

5:59

Uganda would care for that very much.

6:02

You kinda gotta read the room with these things

6:04

if you know what I mean. I hear you mister

6:06

president. Well, good luck.

6:09

Thanks,

6:09

Jimmy. I gotta go.

6:11

We have to sit down and figure out an awkward

6:13

moment for this summit.

6:15

Like I learned to say a phrase in

6:17

an African language that none of the attendees

6:19

even speak have

6:22

its children acquiring Africa by

6:24

Toto wearing, you know, little hats.

6:27

I like that one. That'd be Christian.

6:37

on

6:41

fridays

6:48

Go from meeting and speeds

6:50

and jump to meeting

6:51

and then get some head on.

6:53

It's the anime show.

6:57

Got a great guest with us right now. I'm very excited

6:59

to talk to Jennifer she's an American

7:01

author, filmmaker, business

7:03

executive, retired artist Jimness,

7:06

She was the nineteen eighty six USA

7:08

gymnast national champion, and

7:10

a seven type member of the US women's

7:12

national team She produced the twenty

7:14

twenty Emmy Award winning documentary film,

7:17

athlete a, which connected

7:19

the crimes of Larry NASA to systemic

7:21

abuses in the Olympic movement. She was also

7:23

the chief marketing officer and

7:25

brand president at Levi

7:28

Strauss until

7:30

her very vocal opposition to

7:32

the standing closure of

7:34

San Francisco's public schools during

7:36

the COVID pandemic. She wrote

7:38

about the experience in this book

7:40

Her recent memoir called Levi's Unbuttoned.

7:43

Please welcome to the show Jennifer say

7:45

thanks for coming on. Thanks for

7:47

having me, Jimmy. So

7:49

I just wanna read a little bit this is

7:51

a description at Amazon of the book, so I

7:53

just wanna read a little bit of it. So

7:56

you you describe yourself the

7:58

formerly as left of center progressive

7:59

and

8:02

but everything changed when

8:04

you publicly oppose the closure of

8:06

San Francisco's public schools at the

8:08

height of the pandemic. In response

8:10

to her wrong think, Management

8:13

gave her a choice shut up her leave.

8:15

She decided that defending at risk

8:17

children was more important

8:19

than the job that she loved and so

8:21

she resigned. After more

8:23

than two decades at the company, she gave

8:25

up her professional future in

8:28

order to retain her voice. So

8:32

that's quite a so let's let's

8:34

start. I just wanna give people the backup.

8:36

The Yeah. So you

8:39

We'll talk III wanna talk about your gymnastics

8:41

stuff because that really lays the foundation because

8:43

you've been a fighter your whole life. You've

8:45

you've been you've been willing to take on

8:47

the status quo and have people turn on you.

8:50

And this is just another example of that. So

8:52

you went to work at Levi's in nineteen

8:54

ninety nine, And you shot up the ranks

8:56

very quickly. Correct?

8:58

It was

8:58

a slow and steady climb. But, I

9:01

mean, I was there twenty three years all in. So

9:03

I started entry level and ended

9:05

this brand president. Yes.

9:06

And you Dore next in line to be CEO.

9:09

That's right. And so you were

9:11

so let's get see, in twenty March

9:14

twenty twenty, You Dore already

9:16

speaking out against school closures. So I just

9:18

wanted to tell people just to give them

9:20

to let them know. We've already

9:22

covered this on the show. For children

9:24

without a serious medical condition, the

9:26

danger of severe COVID is so

9:28

low, has to be difficult to

9:30

quantify. The risk of long COVID

9:32

among children, a source of fear among many

9:34

parents, is also very low. That was

9:36

to the New York Times, and that was in

9:38

twenty twenty one that was in there.

9:40

They also said this in New York Intelligence

9:42

Magazine. It said according to the

9:44

CDC, among children, the

9:46

mortality risk from COVID nineteen

9:48

is actually lower than

9:50

from the flu. So,

9:52

and now that was when we had the delta

9:55

virus, which was more virulent

9:57

then the Omicron. The Omicron

9:59

is less virulent Dore more

10:01

contagious. And so I just wanna show this.

10:03

This is from July twenty

10:05

twenty. So get this, the

10:08

doctors. So NBC News, which is owned

10:10

by Big Pharma, you know that.

10:12

They did a segment and then they

10:14

asked all the doctors' pediatricians if

10:16

they would send their kids back to school in the

10:18

fall. This is in twenty twenty. Listen

10:20

to what they say and Watch

10:22

this chagrin of the host. Watch this Would

10:24

you let your kids go back to school? I

10:27

will. My kids are looking forward to

10:29

it. Yes.

10:31

Period. Absolutely. Absolutely.

10:33

As much

10:34

as I can. Without a

10:37

hesitation.

10:37

Without a hesitation. Yes. I

10:40

HAVE NO CONCERNS ABOUT SENDING MY CHILD TO

10:42

SCHOOL IN THE FALL. I WOULD LET MY KIDS GO

10:44

BACK TO SCHOOL. Reporter: DR. JOHN Torres,

10:46

NBC NEWS.

10:49

What

10:49

happened after that?

10:50

Yes. Well, they all said yes. They

10:53

all said yes. So why so

10:55

you in March of twenty twenty, you were

10:57

on board and they all knew it.

10:59

So, what do you think happened? Why

11:01

do you think nobody followed what the

11:03

doctors were saying? Why did we have

11:05

lockdowns? Well,

11:06

you forgot what happened right after

11:09

this? These pediatricians saying they'd

11:11

send their kids back is Trump said

11:13

schools need to open, and then the American

11:15

Academy of pediatrics reverse their

11:17

recommendation in the summer

11:19

of twenty twenty. But

11:21

let me add one thing, if I might.

11:23

As early as

11:26

March, they're actually it was

11:28

already known that the median

11:30

age of death was over eighty,

11:32

I think, coming out of Italy. There

11:34

were already

11:34

articles being written sporadically.

11:37

I found them

11:39

that kids were at very, very little risk and

11:41

that long term school closures were never part

11:43

of any Dore pandemic playbook because

11:45

they're too harmful. They're too

11:47

harmful to the most vulnerable

11:49

among us. And in this

11:51

case, with COVID where children were

11:53

actually not at equal risk, it was

11:55

especially egregious. So I was

11:57

outspoken from the get And San Francisco, I think, was the

11:59

very

11:59

first school district to announce school

12:02

closures on March thirteen, twenty

12:04

twenty. Howard Bauchner: And so

12:06

You

12:06

were right, by the way. So just just

12:09

just spoiler alert, she was

12:11

correct on the science because

12:13

now everybody who Dore forced locking

12:15

down the schools is now trying to

12:17

pretend that they were never for locking down the

12:19

schools. And who am I talking about? I'm talking

12:21

about doctor Fauci. Here he is.

12:24

Bragging or not he's gonna tell us that

12:26

he recommended we shut down not just

12:28

schools, but the whole country,

12:30

listen to this.

12:31

I recommended

12:32

to the president that we shut the country

12:35

down,

12:36

and

12:36

that was very difficult decision.

12:39

Because I knew it would have serious economic

12:41

consequences. And

12:43

so here he is now trying to deny

12:46

it. Down schools if you had to

12:48

do it all over again? Well,

12:50

you

12:50

know, again, it's first of all,

12:52

I didn't recommend locking anything down.

12:54

You you

12:57

He he so that so

12:59

doctor Fauci is a unbridled

13:01

pathological liar. Every time

13:03

he opens his mouth, he's lying, we've

13:05

documented his lied about masks. He lied

13:07

about the origin of the virus. He

13:09

lied about funding the virus. He lied to

13:11

congress about that twice, which is a felony. lied

13:13

about herd immunity. He lied about natural

13:16

immunity. He's lied about

13:18

everything at every step. He's a criminal

13:20

liar and should be in prison. And

13:22

you were right about this. You were

13:24

right about it. So when they started closing down

13:27

so I just wanna show you were right about it. Now

13:29

everybody's coming around to pretend They were on

13:31

your side. Unfortunately, you lost

13:33

your job over this. So

13:35

just walk us through. In March, you

13:37

started speaking out against school

13:39

closures. Right? In San Francisco?

13:40

Yeah. I did. In San Francisco,

13:42

and then, you know, eventually more broadly

13:45

nationally. In San Francisco,

13:47

fifty thousand public school children were

13:49

shut out of school. The

13:51

private schools closed at first as well, but

13:53

of course, they opened not too long

13:55

thereafter. And that was fine.

13:58

And I was alarmed from the beginning. The

14:00

data was there from the beginning. And

14:02

so I was vocal on social media. Eventually,

14:04

I had no one followed me didn't anybody would

14:06

notice. But eventually, you

14:08

know, those of us who opposed

14:10

the lockdowns and the school closures, we all found

14:12

each other. And I developed a little bit of

14:15

following eventually. I wrote op

14:17

eds. I led

14:19

rallies in San Francisco. I ended up

14:21

on a local news. I became

14:23

especially incensed when

14:25

the private schools opened in September

14:27

of twenty twenty in my city of

14:29

San Francisco, while public schools

14:32

remain stubbornly close with no

14:34

sign of opening any anytime

14:36

soon. And of course, at this point, my peers

14:38

at the company, other executives

14:40

as well as my boss are telling me you have

14:42

to stop talking about this, you really need to think about

14:44

it. When you speak, you speak on behalf of the

14:46

company, I said, I don't. I'm a model

14:48

four. I'm speaking on

14:50

behalf of myself. And this

14:52

in San Francisco. I was urged repeatedly,

14:55

I would ask, do I have to stop? They

14:57

they they acknowledge they couldn't tell me I had to

14:59

stop, but it got more and more heated.

15:02

And I just you know, when they sent their

15:04

kids back to school, because they all sent their

15:06

kids to private school, I was the only one with kids

15:08

in

15:08

public. Go

15:10

ahead. So you're telling so wait a minute. So your

15:12

kids are in public school, and

15:14

you will start advocating for them to open

15:16

the public schools. Meanwhile, all

15:18

the executives that you work with that

15:20

Levi, all their kids go to private

15:22

school, and their private

15:24

schools are open. Yeah. And

15:26

they're not too scared to send their kids to school. They

15:28

clearly think in person learning is

15:30

better and that it matters and they're sending their

15:32

kids. And at the same time,

15:34

Behind the scenes, they're telling me, you have

15:36

to stop, this is controversial. And

15:39

I I would say based on, you know, my history

15:41

and gymnastics and we can get to that next,

15:44

this is you know, an extension of my

15:46

advocacy on behalf of children. I

15:48

don't have my title in my

15:50

bio on social media when I'm on the

15:52

news. It always just says Dore Know,

15:54

I was very, very

15:57

careful not to identify myself.

15:59

During this time,

15:59

when I was get all

16:01

this pushed back from my peers. I got

16:03

promoted to brand president. So that's evidence of

16:05

the fact that I was actually doing a good

16:07

job. Right? You don't promote someone

16:09

from chief marketing ops a brand president and

16:11

say, you know, you could be the CEO one day.

16:13

If they're not doing a good job, our

16:15

business was great coming out of lockdown

16:17

when our stores have been closed. Oh,

16:19

that's fine. Then in the

16:22

spring of twenty twenty

16:24

one, I made the

16:26

fatal miss stake of going on Fox

16:28

News when invited. And that

16:30

Oh,

16:30

so you got invited on to the

16:32

Laura Ingram show to tell your story

16:34

about you standing up against

16:36

the COVID policy of locking down schools.

16:39

So you go out. That by the way, that's not

16:41

allowed. Right? Now Well, I

16:43

know. Yep. So you now you

16:45

would have let me just put it this way.

16:47

That's because the same thing happens to me. I

16:49

get invited to go talk about

16:51

my issues on Tucker

16:53

Carlson Show. And and

16:55

the reason why I do that is because I'm not invited

16:57

to go anywhere else than anyone else's show.

16:59

I'll go anywhere and send send

17:01

my message of anti war and

17:03

peace. And I'll do I'll do that anywhere. Tucker Carlson

17:05

is the only one who invites me on because

17:07

he's the only one willing to go against

17:10

the established narrative on

17:12

Ukraine and Syria and other places like

17:14

that. Now you and I were in england because you

17:16

were being invited at anybody else's show. Right?

17:17

That's right. And and we tried. I mean, we

17:20

at this had developed a network of moms

17:22

across the country. We called ourselves open

17:24

schools moms. We tried. We approached The

17:26

New York Times. We approached CNN. Nobody

17:28

would have us. All they had, they never had a mom.

17:31

It was just sort of one incendiary

17:33

statement after the next about how the schools

17:35

opened, all the teachers would die.

17:38

And they would put forth these metrics that were impossible

17:40

to meet, you know, the CDC guidelines

17:42

as influenced by the teachers union,

17:45

were so impossible to meet. It made it clear that

17:47

the schools would never open. They wouldn't invite us

17:49

to talk about the harms being done. And Laura

17:51

Ingram, look, I never watched the show.

17:54

I knew the reputation. I consulted my

17:56

open schools network. They said it's gonna be

17:58

incendiary, but you should do it. It's a platform. A

18:00

lot of people watch the show. And to

18:03

her credit, She was, I believe, the

18:05

first national news

18:07

personality, I think as early as late

18:10

April, to say

18:10

this is wrong. The

18:12

lockdowns are doing more harm the good, the school

18:14

closures are. So I went on

18:16

the show. I said nothing I regret. I

18:18

would do it again. And I would say it to

18:20

her, but that unleashed the beast as you

18:22

might imagine. Employees began to

18:25

complain incessantly. The social media

18:27

Bob came after me and it

18:29

just became more and more heated. Now I should

18:31

say, I survived almost another

18:33

year at the company even after

18:35

that because I was still doing a

18:37

good job. But the employees

18:39

were very angry. I shouldn't even

18:41

say the employees. A

18:43

tiny tiny percentage very

18:45

woke, very angry, you know, I

18:47

get to say what I want and she is

18:50

evil. conspiracy

18:52

theorist. She's a racist. She hates masks.

18:54

She's an anti Vax. And so when on? So

18:56

would you would you ever

18:57

have a conversation with any other of the

18:59

executives at Levi when

19:01

and you would say to them, but your kids are going

19:03

to school. Why could you -- Yeah. -- and what would

19:05

they say back to you?

19:07

You

19:08

just can't. It's two. I mean, even

19:10

one, the head of HR said to me, Jen, you're right,

19:12

but you just can't say these things. Howard

19:14

Bauchner: What, every so what

19:16

is that duped? So it's like cult behavior. Right?

19:18

That's like Yes. As

19:20

you discussed in an earlier segment, it's cult

19:22

like behavior. These are the tenets and the

19:25

beliefs of the cult. If you violate them,

19:27

you're a heretic. We can do what we

19:29

want off to the side, and that's

19:31

fine. But you have to uphold

19:33

these panets

19:35

of the cold. Otherwise, you're in a posture, you

19:37

need to be vanished. And by the way,

19:39

if you advocate for this one thing, it means

19:41

you're all these other things. You are an

19:43

outright Q and R conspiracy theorist. I

19:46

mean, I was asked Point blank, are you a

19:48

conspiracy theorist? As if anybody

19:50

says yes, that. I don't even think

19:52

conspiracy fair to say yes to that.

19:54

No. I answer, if I had thought of it,

19:56

I would be, yeah, you're conspiring

19:58

against me. So I I do actually

19:59

believe Levis embarrassies at this

20:02

point. I was I was

20:04

you know, I had to do an apology tour.

20:05

No. No. No. No.

20:08

Who who First of all, who asked you

20:10

if you were a conspiracy theorist?

20:12

First of all, you voted for Elizabeth Warren.

20:14

Right? In the primary Democratic primary. Democratic

20:16

primary. You're Elizabeth Warren Dore. So

20:18

But again, immediately, if you go against the

20:21

the status quo or the narrative or the

20:23

establishment narrowed on COVID, you are

20:25

immediately a bad person. It's like It's like a

20:27

world of good people and bad people. I

20:29

played a video of Fauci yesterday.

20:31

He was saying we're good people all the way. Like,

20:33

I don't know where this came from. Everybody in

20:35

government is always supposed to be suspect. They're not

20:37

there's no good people, bad people. That's that's why

20:40

we have a transparent you're supposed to have

20:42

transparency. So you don't have to rely on if someone's

20:44

a good person or a bad

20:45

person. Go ahead. Well, here's yeah. So

20:48

at one point, the sort Dore cacophony

20:50

of complaints got to be enough that I was

20:53

asked to do this apology tour where I would have to stand up

20:55

in front of a certain subset of employees

20:57

and apologize. I agreed to

20:59

it and I didn't apologize. I figured I'll

21:01

explain my I thought of myself convincing

21:03

enough that perhaps I could build

21:06

bridges, but I received an email

21:08

from a colleague in corporate communications

21:11

Raving up what I should be prepared to do

21:13

in this apology tour. It started

21:16

with,

21:16

are you a good

21:17

person or a bad person.

21:20

Are you with us or against

21:22

us? What in

21:23

the what does that even

21:25

mean? But that why as all their kids

21:27

are going to school, you're

21:30

advocating for science, and now all

21:32

of a sudden you're a bad person or a good

21:34

person, we can't discuss your Dore. Where

21:36

does that come from? Well,

21:37

I'm also advocating for the

21:39

values I thought that we all had agreed to. I

21:42

mean, San

21:42

Francisco public schools are sixty percent

21:44

low income children. They're disproportionately

21:47

black and brown children here in the summer of twenty

21:49

twenty. We did all this, you know,

21:51

arm waiving about a quality

21:53

of opportunity in fighting racism.

21:55

And yet, the one thing we could have

21:57

actually done to help

21:59

minority students in San Francisco

22:02

and provide them with equality of

22:04

opportunity is to

22:05

advocate for schools. To

22:07

open because the rich white children

22:09

were in private schools and

22:11

the other kids were not.

22:14

But that was not the narrative as you

22:16

well know. The narrative of the

22:18

Democratic Party

22:19

was you've

22:20

got a lockdown until I don't know

22:23

when no more COVID. You've got I mean, the

22:25

rule kept changing as to when that would be over and you've got to

22:27

support Dore schools or else you

22:29

want teachers to die and you want black

22:31

children to die. That was the narrative. If

22:33

you challenged it, You

22:35

were outright

22:36

conspiracy theorists.

22:38

I

22:38

don't I don't know. Let let me let me

22:40

just read from that substack you did with

22:43

just very briefly, just to let people know exactly

22:45

the environment you Dore operating under.

22:47

Why you had to go on a apology

22:50

tour? The comments from Levi's employees picked

22:52

up about me being anti

22:54

science, about me being

22:56

anti fat. Because

22:58

I'd retweeted a study showing a

23:00

correlation between obesity and

23:02

poor health outcomes. Seventy

23:04

seven percent the people who are hospitalized with COVID

23:06

were overweight or obese.

23:08

And that's a fact. So science now

23:10

is racist Dore

23:13

anti fat. About being

23:15

being anti trans. They said you Dore anti

23:17

trans because you tweeted that we shouldn't ditch

23:19

Mother's Day.

23:21

IN FAVOR OF BIRTHING PEOPLE'S DAY

23:23

BECAUSE IT LEFT OUT ADOPTIVE

23:25

AND STEP MOMS.

23:27

AND ABOUT

23:29

ME BEING RACIST BECAUSE SAN FRANCISCO'S

23:32

PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM WAS FILLED WITH BLACK AND

23:34

BROWN KIDS AND APPARENTLY I

23:36

didn't care if they died.

23:38

The head of the hate jar department told

23:40

me personally that even though I was

23:42

right about the schools, that it

23:44

was classist and

23:46

racist that public schools stayed

23:48

shut while private schools were

23:50

open and that I was probably right about

23:52

everything else. I still shouldn't

23:54

say so. I kept

23:56

thinking, why shouldn't I? Okay. So I

23:58

just want to let people know that.

23:59

So then you you were then asked after you went on

24:02

Laura Ingram, you were then asked to go on

24:04

an apology tour because a

24:06

vocal minority of people at

24:08

your company We're calling you anti

24:10

fat, anti trans, anti

24:12

science. And so

24:13

they

24:14

they wanna go go ahead. You'll

24:16

appreciate this. I was also

24:18

told I would need to answer questions about my

24:21

husband. My husband was

24:23

very vocal and has a more aggressive

24:25

tone than I do. I have sort of a well trained

24:27

diplomatic voice of a woman in

24:29

corporate America. He doesn't.

24:31

He expressed a lot of

24:34

criticism of the

24:36

mandates at first vaccine mandates and then of

24:38

the vaccines themselves sounds. He's

24:40

been picked off on of of

24:41

Twitter. He's still banished. He's still

24:44

not been let back on by Elon

24:46

even with the Twitter vials. Levis thousand

24:48

people were DUC. He's one of

24:50

them for COVID misinformation. So I

24:52

was told I would also need to answer

24:54

questions about him and his

24:56

stances. And is he an anti Baxter?

24:58

My answer to that was, how

24:59

did what does that have to do with anything?

25:01

He doesn't work here.

25:03

Wow. Okay.

25:05

And so that You have

25:07

to disavow people, you know,

25:09

in this sort of cult like

25:11

Yeah.

25:11

But you wait, then you

25:12

have to it's like scienceology

25:14

and disconnection. Right? You have to sever

25:16

ties with people that

25:19

don't believe that are not true believers.

25:21

And so I was expected to

25:23

sort of disavow him

25:25

essentially. I couldn't disagree with him. That

25:27

wasn't I couldn't agree.

25:29

of it mattered. He didn't work there. None

25:31

of it matters.

25:32

It didn't work there. So did you

25:34

do pub did you do the public apology?

25:37

Tour. I I did not apologize. How

25:39

did that go? I

25:41

did the

25:42

thing. I mean, I spoke

25:44

and I explained my self.

25:46

And I took questions. Because I

25:48

thought you explained myself. You thought

25:50

you would be, you know, you're you're a good communicator

25:52

and you could explain to people that you're

25:54

just following science, and this is actually out

25:57

of concern for kids. And since all their kids

25:59

are going to rich person's school,

26:01

you and then what happened?

26:03

Well, that

26:03

was June of twenty one, and it actually went

26:06

pretty well. And he decided to

26:08

leave, you know, there were only two

26:10

questions. I got some nice

26:12

notes after saying this totally made sense. I don't

26:14

have children. I haven't thought of it that way.

26:18

It went well, but it was a very brief

26:20

respite from the continuing

26:23

onslaught.

26:24

And so when So what so what did the Any

26:26

goodwill generated

26:27

dissipated quickly, small

26:29

minority of employees continue to

26:32

complain My peer, the head of corporate

26:34

communication, delivered a dossier

26:36

of my tweets and social media posts

26:38

to the CEO, my boss on a

26:40

weekly basis. Wow. So,

26:43

you know, at this point, they were kind of

26:45

gunning for me. And then, you know, by the

26:47

fall of twenty one, I had more followers,

26:49

so a little more high profile. And

26:51

I got some heftier trolls, you

26:54

know, and and that made them

26:56

nervous. They kept saying it was this reputational

26:58

risk. And yet, our

27:00

stock price had doubled since I took over

27:02

as brand president. Our business was great.

27:04

There was no reputational risk.

27:05

Nothing was happening. Then

27:08

I was I was told I was still a candidate for

27:10

CEO if I would stop tweeting. I said

27:12

I wasn't gonna stop tweeting and

27:15

writing offense and all the other stuff.

27:18

Yeah, that's him. I I think

27:20

they hold it out at this point to get me to

27:22

stop. I think by this point, there was

27:24

probably no intention, but He told

27:26

me we need to do a background check on you and

27:28

your husband. I agreed because I

27:30

had no real choice. And

27:32

I think to be CEO, that's probably

27:34

pretty standard, probably not for your else for

27:37

you. So I agreed three months

27:39

late, I told him what would happen?

27:41

There's no financial indiscretion. There's

27:43

no crimes. You know, I'm totally above

27:45

board, but you're gonna find the social

27:47

media to be a gray area, and you're not

27:49

gonna wanna you're gonna you're gonna tell me

27:50

I have to go. Which is

27:52

exactly what happened in January two thousand

27:54

twenty two. I was told there's

27:56

no longer a place for you. We'll

27:59

offer

27:59

you severance million dollars to walk

28:02

away quietly.

28:03

I did not want to

28:05

sign a nondisclosure agreement,

28:07

so I quit instead. And

28:09

I resigned on February thirteenth, and the peace

28:12

and fairy wise' common sense

28:14

now, the brief press, appeared

28:16

on February fourteenth. And

28:17

the next day, you'll find this

28:20

interesting. Three members of the San Francisco

28:22

Board of Education were recalled by

28:24

seventy five percent of the voters

28:26

in San Francisco because they refused to

28:28

open the schools. So a

28:30

majority agreed with me, but failed to speak up.

28:32

So I looked like the lunatic fringe

28:34

write insane

28:36

personal. And

28:38

so, yeah, we I had that happen to

28:40

me too. I was advocating for schools to

28:43

open. And while the Chicago Schools

28:46

union, was not.

28:48

And so then I was

28:50

then on social media,

28:53

the big pharma trolls

28:55

came at me and I was

28:57

called anti union because

28:59

I got that one too. Because I was advocating

29:01

for children to go back to school,

29:03

which was the science. And

29:05

they they didn't know the science just like nobody

29:07

knows what the real science is on

29:09

masks, nobody knows what any of the science

29:11

is on lockdowns Nobody

29:14

knows what's actually happening with the thing.

29:16

And so and

29:18

I'm not allowed to say what's actually happening

29:21

with the thing unless I go on rumble. So

29:25

so, Keith so now what

29:27

so what what happened after that? So you write the

29:29

Barry Weiss out of

29:31

her substack, anything. Is there any

29:33

is there more to the story? I mean,

29:35

there's not a ton. I would say, you know, there was

29:37

a lot of press right after the piece went

29:39

kind of viral that week.

29:41

And I would say the press was barely It

29:43

was

29:43

there. You know, I wasn't painted as some

29:46

demon. They had nothing

29:48

to say. They were stunned that I

29:50

would such a thing. They couldn't imagine a world in which somebody

29:52

would pass up money. You know, that's

29:54

beyond their kind of ability to

29:56

even fathom. So, you know, I'd

29:58

broken some sort code, like, we

30:00

stay quiet on this stuff, and we take the money, and

30:02

we walk away. And that's not what I wanted to

30:05

do because I wanted to continue

30:07

to advocate. And the thing beyond

30:09

the kids that I had been pushing for and fighting

30:11

for Dore two years was

30:13

to be able to express an opinion

30:15

and have a conversation because

30:17

factors, if we had had a societal

30:19

wide debate about this that was

30:21

honest, that didn't silence

30:24

doctors

30:24

who had opposing

30:27

opinions, the schools

30:27

would have opened sooner. That's not

30:29

what happened. And so I felt it was too

30:31

important Dore illibertism and silencing

30:34

and censorship I wasn't gonna take

30:36

money. That felt too hypocritical just

30:38

to stay silent, so I didn't do

30:40

that. That's what happened.

30:42

And now on a daily basis,

30:44

I I get from people. I

30:46

don't understand it. Schools opening, that's not

30:48

even controversial.

30:50

Well, I'll tell you try to remember

30:52

back through what a difference

30:53

three years makes. People people have dyskinesia

30:55

around COVID like nothing else. Like right

30:57

now, people are running around going. They never said

30:59

it stopped transmission. They never said

31:01

it. I mean, They're running around saying

31:03

that. Like, I mean, with a straight facial, it

31:06

just shows you It's in writing. It's

31:08

everywhere. I have the videotape of them saying

31:10

it. I have Fauci saying it.

31:12

I have head of the CDC saying it. I

31:15

have the ball saying it. I've Rachel Matt out

31:17

saying it for five minute street. Anyway,

31:20

they

31:20

get away with it? So,

31:21

Lina, you know, Lina,

31:23

when. Right? So she was a doctor who

31:25

was popular. She writes op ed to

31:27

the Washington Post. And she was and

31:30

CNN all the time as their go to

31:32

COVID person. And she was very

31:34

much for the lockdown. She was very much

31:36

for masking. AND THEN SHE

31:38

REALIZED THAT HER KID WAS HAVING

31:40

VIRTUAL DEVELOPMENTAL PROBLEMS BECAUSE OF

31:42

ALL THE MASKING. And so she

31:44

then started to, like, oh, so it woke her

31:47

up. And she started to think for

31:49

herself. And then she wrote this in

31:51

the Washington Post. She wrote

31:53

As for most Americans, COVID in our family will

31:55

almost certainly be mild. And

31:57

like most Americans, we've made the decision

32:00

that following precautions strict enough to prevent the highly

32:02

contagious BA5 will

32:04

be very challenging. Masking

32:06

has harmed our son's language development.

32:08

And limiting both kids' extracurriculars and

32:11

social interactions would negatively affect

32:13

their childhood and hinder my

32:16

and my husband's ability to

32:18

work. So she's turned around. She

32:20

sounds like you know. And she was one

32:22

of the most artisans, and

32:25

maskers, and all that stuff. She was

32:27

She was a good cult member. And

32:30

so she broke from the cult. And as soon as

32:32

she wrote that, they all attacked

32:34

her. They all went after her.

32:36

And now she's a heretic. The

32:38

same Now everybody hates her. Yeah.

32:40

Now everybody hates her. Right?

32:42

Yeah. Well, you know, not

32:43

to give her too much credit, because she

32:46

both firstly advocated that the

32:48

unvaccinated should not have basic civil

32:50

rights like being able to leave their homes if you

32:52

recall. I

32:52

do recall. So, you

32:53

know, she was a fervent

32:56

cult member. I'm glad she's seen the light, but

32:58

because of that, both sides hate her

33:00

because the people who were anti locked down

33:02

and anti mandate from the beginning think

33:05

she's terrible. And now the

33:07

pro lock down, pro closure,

33:09

pro master's hater because she's kinda walking it back

33:11

a little bit. She's got no home.

33:13

And so what what does this

33:15

make what what

33:16

does this make you think now? You used again.

33:18

Your whole life, you educated, you a

33:20

lefty. You voted for Elizabeth Warren. You Dore

33:22

you believed in free speech. You believed that. And

33:25

then, what Now

33:27

everything's kinda turned on its head. Right

33:29

now, the Democratic Party is

33:31

against free speech and their four

33:33

big Dore. And SO WHAT

33:35

IS THIS DONE TO YOU AND YOUR IDEA ABOUT POLITICS?

33:38

WELL, I DON'T

33:40

TRUST ANYONE. I THINK IT'S ALL A LY.

33:42

THEY NEVER BELIEVED ANY OF

33:44

things they said. I feel maybe I was

33:47

duped, maybe I didn't see it, maybe they changed.

33:49

I don't know. It doesn't matter what happened in

33:51

the past. But I'm certainly not

33:53

a democrat anymore, but I'm not running to the

33:55

other side either. But I

33:58

am disgusted with the

34:00

democrats more so at the moment because

34:02

I had I mean, I feel like

34:04

at the end of the day, I don't actually think

34:06

I've changed you know, I

34:08

always cared about free speech. I cared about public education. I

34:10

cared about opportunity for kids who

34:12

were vulnerable. I cared I I

34:14

still Dore about that. I didn't change.

34:17

You just reveal yourselves to be hippocrits

34:19

and liars. That's it.

34:21

Everyone thinks, oh, you were red

34:23

filled. You were there, oh, I'm

34:25

exactly the same. Yes. Well,

34:27

I will I've that's

34:29

exactly what I've said. It's like, I've

34:31

stayed the same. I'm an anti

34:34

establishment. I've

34:36

said same thing. I've been critical of the Democrats'

34:38

corporatization. I didn't change,

34:40

but because of Trump, I wasn't supposed to

34:42

criticize the Democratic party anymore.

34:44

And that If I did, that

34:46

meant I was enabling

34:48

fascists. I don't know if you saw Joe Biden

34:50

and the Democrats, which control all of

34:52

federal government right

34:54

now, just ended the railroad workers' ability

34:56

to organize and strike.

34:58

So when a government comes

35:00

together with a corporation to

35:02

screw the workers that is

35:04

fascism. So this idea that voting for

35:06

Joe Biden and the Democrats was

35:08

somehow fighting fascism. You're

35:10

a chump. If you think

35:12

that. Democracy was not on the

35:14

ballot. Your democracy was stolen

35:16

decades ago by corporate America.

35:18

Go ahead. Right?

35:19

No. I mean, you know, as we've social media censorship,

35:21

like, Elon, hey, it doesn't

35:23

matter, social media private

35:26

companies were hand in hand with the government to

35:29

sensor, de platform, blacklist.

35:31

I don't care what you call it,

35:33

to sensor everyday Americans.

35:36

Who challenged all of these

35:37

insane harmful mandates, if you

35:40

wanted to do an anti

35:42

lockdown or

35:44

anti mandate

35:44

protests in two thousand twenty, and

35:47

you posted a notification for that protest.

35:49

It was removed by

35:51

every

35:51

social media platform. So

35:53

that's that, isn't that is

35:56

social private social media

35:58

companies carrying water for the

36:00

Democratic Party. That's -- they're

36:02

working in lockstep, whether they were doing

36:04

so under direct guidance

36:06

or direct insistence from the government Dore just

36:09

doing it as as lackeys. I

36:12

don't know what another word is. It's the

36:14

same thing. They're so integrated.

36:16

And by the way, the press

36:18

the price didn't hold anyone accountable.

36:20

They did the same thing.

36:22

The press did not operate as the fourth

36:24

estate or whatever estate it's supposed to

36:28

be. They published, government issued talking points as if they

36:30

were news, they didn't interrogate the

36:32

data, how I am a

36:34

normal regular person with

36:36

basic math

36:38

skills, and I could interpret the data and understand

36:40

it. Why couldn't the science reporters from

36:42

The New York Times? The

36:44

if it was in so I asked this

36:46

question, No. They was in

36:48

the data. The Always.

36:50

It was in the data that Pfizer submitted,

36:52

that they never even tested.

36:55

For transmission. They never even

36:57

tested it. So why

37:00

didn't and I asked, why wasn't there

37:02

some science writers or

37:04

some doc Dore writing? Didn't they look at the

37:06

data? Didn't

37:06

they know this? They knew this

37:08

at the beginning of the vaccine rollout?

37:11

And nobody reported

37:12

it. It didn't get reported until

37:14

a member of the European Parliament

37:16

questioned an executive by Pfizer

37:18

and asked did directly. Did you test

37:21

to see if it stopped transmission? And she

37:23

said, no. Of course, we didn't.

37:26

Of course. But

37:26

the press let them get a and they now say they never set it stock. But

37:28

we all have it on video. We know, Borla

37:31

said it, they all Dore Walenski

37:33

said it, Fauci said it, you

37:35

won't get infected and you won't transmit.

37:37

It was right there. All you had to do is read

37:39

the footnotes. Why wouldn't a reporter

37:42

do that? Because they just read the press release and they

37:44

didn't challenge any of them. They did

37:46

they never asked any questions. They didn't interrogate

37:50

the issues. I lost my train of thought, but that's the

37:52

fascism. And so all this

37:54

you know, I've we've all

37:57

been accused of fashions and right wing.

37:59

I'm like, it's right in front of your

38:01

eyes. It's it's happening.

38:04

No one I was locked in my home, playgrounds

38:06

were closed, I couldn't leave the

38:08

house for however many months,

38:10

we were police. If we

38:12

buy when we were finally let outside

38:14

outside the house, we were police

38:16

because you weren't allowed to be with

38:18

members outside

38:20

your household. Citizens were

38:22

encouraged to tell on other

38:24

citizens. There was a hotline number you could

38:26

call in San Francisco to, you

38:28

know, tattle tale. I mean,

38:30

is this This

38:30

is not this is like

38:31

China. Germany? This is like that right. This is

38:33

like East Germany before the fall. This that's what this feels

38:35

like. This is what when I grew up, this is what

38:37

I was told life

38:40

was like in the Soviet Union. That's what I was told. Everybody's

38:42

suspicious to everybody. The government wants you to

38:44

tell on your even if it's your parents, you're

38:46

supposed to turn

38:48

them in. All that. That's what I was that's what I was the that was the myth I

38:50

was told about growing up in under

38:52

communism. And now we're it's

38:56

here with like I was just saying before, since nine eleven, they

38:58

have every telephone call you make, they have

39:00

every text you send, they

39:02

have every email you

39:04

send, they're they have it. They're not they're they're not not collecting it. They

39:06

are collecting it. And it's all

39:08

and so now the, you know, with the

39:10

news media

39:12

is funded by Big Pharma up to seventy percent. They

39:14

basically work. They are just an extension

39:16

of Big Pharma. And so you can't

39:18

believe anything they say ever. Look

39:22

at the the the unbelievable lies that they've told. Look what

39:24

they've the Levis they told about

39:26

Ivermectin, that it was some kind of horse

39:28

medicine, instead of what it

39:30

actually is, a Nobel Prize winning Human Medicine that's on the

39:32

WHO list of essential medicine that's

39:34

not only been it saved millions of

39:36

It saved billions of

39:40

lives. It was considered a wonder drug before COVID and

39:42

the reason why they had to demonize it and

39:44

made you think it was horse poison was

39:46

because on the chance it could treat

39:50

COVID they couldn't get their emergency use authorization for their

39:52

vaccines, and they would lose a hundred

39:54

billion dollars. And so that's why

39:56

I mean, just the most un

39:59

scrupulous unethical behavior by

40:01

by everybody in the media, hundred percent.

40:03

I'm here telling the truth about it.

40:05

And YouTube, Google, which is

40:07

again the establishment, And I'm sure they own vaccine. Oh, by

40:09

the way, Google is in bed with vaccine companies.

40:12

And so they don't let you so I'm not

40:14

allowed I have I've

40:16

been unfairly

40:18

censored on on YouTube. Right?

40:20

And they won't even give me the data. I

40:22

go, well, what did I say? We can't show

40:25

you. What? You can't show me what I said that was wrong.

40:27

No. That's an internal document. We can't

40:29

show you. They want so that's the kind of

40:31

garbage that you've gone through. That's the kind of garbage

40:34

we've gone through. And I'd never

40:36

thought I would see it in America where we

40:38

value free speech, where we

40:40

value questioning authority. I

40:42

I can't believe that This whole

40:44

society used to be about do your own

40:46

thing, question authority. Appleies say

40:48

think different. And as soon as

40:50

COVID happen, everything that all

40:52

went away and we became a cult, and you

40:54

weren't allowed to step out of

40:55

line. Yeah. It's

40:56

true. I mean, I think the reason this my

40:59

story resonates so much is Levi's is like

41:01

the epitome of those American values.

41:03

It was about rugged individualism.

41:05

I mean, I traveled to Moscow when

41:07

I was a teenager to compete in the Goodwill

41:09

Games in nineteen eighty six. I brought twenty pairs of

41:11

bible ones to trade. Like, that was valuable currency. That's what

41:13

the Russian athletes wanted. It was

41:15

nineteen eighty six. You know,

41:17

they meant freedom in in all the best ways.

41:20

But I I think what I find most

41:22

alarming is

41:24

you say is true and how it makes you the

41:26

conspiracy theorist. But people

41:28

seem all too willing to

41:30

trade those values. Free speech,

41:32

the the you know, the

41:35

ability to congregate protest, they

41:36

seem willing to trade it

41:40

or proceed

41:41

safety. They're being promised, some idea

41:43

of safety, which is always how the

41:45

authoritarians take over. You know, it

41:47

is always they offer safety.

41:49

It's too dangerous have these

41:51

other things. That's why you can't have them, but

41:54

we're gonna give you safety and

41:56

exchange. But they don't see it. It's so

41:58

clear, like, the board is

41:59

laid out. And yet, everyone seems

42:02

with most, not everyone.

42:04

Many seem all too willing

42:08

to accept that exchange. I'll take safety, and I'll take fitting in

42:10

with the group, and I'll take feeling

42:12

virtuous for upholding these

42:14

talking points.

42:17

Rather than

42:17

than challenge and and fight

42:20

for basic freedoms. Well, I just want

42:22

to remind people this is this

42:24

was

42:24

the former CEO of Levi's

42:27

and his name is Chipberg, and he

42:30

offered you well, first he said that, you

42:32

know, if he's he basically intimated

42:34

that if you don't shut up, you're not gonna become

42:36

CEO. And if you do up. You will become

42:38

CEO. Uh-huh. And you kept

42:40

talking. And then he said, okay, we're gonna fire

42:42

you, and we'll give you a million

42:44

dollars if you shut up about

42:46

what happened. And you walked

42:48

away from a million dollars that he offered

42:50

you. Correct?

42:52

Yes.

42:52

Okay. So

42:52

I just wanna get that out there.

42:54

So that should give her some bona telling her story. And

42:57

of course, you know, people are

42:59

gonna call you a grifter. I

43:02

don't know what your gift is here. You you lost everything to tell the

43:04

truth just like we did here. Lost all

43:06

my friends and everything and almost lost my

43:10

channel. But You've been called a grifter.

43:12

Correct? Constantly. I mean,

43:13

this is a really crappy griff. I

43:16

got it tell you, I made a

43:18

lot more money before. I

43:20

mean, I am bad at this drifting

43:22

thing. Yeah.

43:24

Okay. You

43:25

know, this is a man who makes over forty million dollars a year. That's

43:27

what the CEO of Levi's

43:30

makes. Really

43:31

forty million dollars

43:34

Well, with

43:35

stock, I mean -- Yeah. -- in under the cover of COVID,

43:37

the company laid off fifteen percent

43:39

of its workforce Dore

43:42

to a thousand people. The business was tough, as you can imagine,

43:44

the stores were closed, laid off fifteen

43:46

percent of the workforce, bolstered the

43:48

stock price during the same Dore frame,

43:51

he cashed out forty three million dollars worth of stock.

43:53

Wow. He said the layoffs were did you wanna talk

43:55

about anti worker? He said the layoffs were

43:58

done with empathy. It was, you know, all

44:00

couched in flowery language

44:02

and everybody believed it. They believed it was

44:04

woke and it was good and we were taking care of

44:06

people, but he took care of himself.

44:08

That's who he took care of.

44:10

And that's in part, in addition to telling my story, which we've just

44:12

discussed, I really kind of challenged

44:14

the world capitalism. As I call it,

44:16

these companies and CEOs, they

44:18

wrap themselves in

44:20

this cloak of woke ness and it's it's a lie. They they're

44:22

all about money and they always have them.

44:25

The pro worker socially adjusting

44:28

to do would have been to

44:30

keep those folks in their jobs even if it meant less profit and a

44:32

challenged stock price. And actually,

44:36

You know what? Say the stores need

44:37

to open because we need to employ people. There's a lot

44:39

of people counting

44:40

on these jobs. They feed their families from

44:44

these jobs. Levis open the stores. That's not what we did. We have

44:46

held the Democratic Party Principles. You

44:48

Dore shut down the world. I'll stay home

44:50

in my, you know, fancy place

44:53

Dore order Uber Eats and Netflix and tell everybody

44:55

else to stay home and then get rid

44:57

of fifteen percent of

45:00

the workforce. Now,

45:01

can you speak so? That's good to see that

45:04

you're not you're not afraid to be critical of

45:06

Levi's. That's good. And you're not afraid to

45:08

because you're take the million dollars so now you can

45:10

speak freely, you have your Dore, what

45:13

did Levi's do in Haiti?

45:15

And didn't they squash the booth to get a

45:17

minimum wage for their workers that make the

45:20

Levi's? Oh

45:22

goodness. You're gonna ask

45:23

me about something. I think

45:25

I didn't know very much about. I mean, I I

45:27

will say this

45:28

beyond Haiti,

45:30

you know, all of Levi's

45:32

production and supply chain was offshore in the mid to late 90s.

45:34

They were really the last American company to

45:36

sell off American factories and

45:39

made the USA. Good or

45:42

bad, whatever, but all of it is

45:44

offshore. They don't make product in China, so

45:46

I'll give them a little credit for that. They

45:48

sort of had been exiting China over the

45:50

years, but because of the lack of transparency.

45:52

What I had often pushed for and I didn't run supply chain,

45:54

so not my area.

45:58

You

45:58

know, the idea of a living wage, that

46:00

is

46:00

not what is paid in

46:04

these countries. The

46:06

company has strict what they would call terms of engagement. The factories

46:08

are said to be monitored for working

46:11

conditions. I think that's

46:13

not totally

46:14

clear, and

46:16

there's definitely not

46:17

a living wage being

46:20

paid. And

46:21

how what is that? And what do people so what do

46:23

people Dore? So how do you walk around Levi's making forty

46:25

million dollars a year? Knowing

46:28

that the people who are creating that profit for you don't even have

46:30

a living wage. What what kind of

46:33

disconnect has to happen

46:35

in your brain? That

46:37

is a great question.

46:40

One, I think they start to believe the lie.

46:42

You know, they take all these stances and these

46:44

social justice causes and they wanna be viewed

46:46

as good and liked like Sam Bankman free and

46:48

saying, you know, we do this so people will

46:50

like us, but they actually start to believe

46:52

it about themselves. You know, greed is no longer good. It's

46:54

not enough to be super rich, but

46:56

gotta also be, you know, put on

46:59

a pedestal as this great

47:01

social justice warrior. But really, somewhere in their brain,

47:03

they know it's really about the money. And the way they

47:05

justify what you just said is, well, we

47:07

can't attract the best talent if we don't

47:09

pay them this month. That's just

47:11

the rules of the game.

47:13

Okay. That's it. That's how they

47:15

do it. Okay. Well, listen, Jennifer,

47:18

we're out of time. I'd love to have you come back

47:20

on when we have more time we can talk

47:22

about. It's a fascinating story

47:24

about you as a gymnast and what gymnasts

47:26

have to go through. I have

47:28

no idea. The all the pain and especially when you

47:30

went through it, it was worse back then

47:32

in the eighties. Right? All the

47:34

sexual and and

47:36

everything. You went through it was just

47:38

nuts and how you you broke your femur,

47:40

and then you and you for

47:42

two years, you competed with a broke

47:44

ankle even though your doctor kept saying it's not broken and you said you had

47:46

to Dore. Anyway, I'd love to have you come back

47:48

on and just tell that whole story. That would

47:51

be fantastic. Would you We

47:53

we'd love to have you. I

47:55

love it. I love it. I can't believe you made me

47:57

look at a picture of Chip Dore the last twenty

47:59

minutes. Oh,

47:59

I'm sorry.

48:02

I'm sorry. Okay. Alright. Jennifer SAFE,

48:04

former executive at Levis,

48:06

and she's a freedom fighter.

48:08

She's out there speaking for our

48:11

freedom of speech to advocating for children and for and

48:14

for, you know, an exchange of ideas is what

48:16

we're supposed to have in this country. So thank

48:18

you for doing that. You took a

48:20

lot of shots and you're gonna salute

48:22

Thanks for doing that. Thanks, Jimmy.

48:24

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48:24

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app today. So you know that the Pentagon

49:18

just lost two trillion dollars again. They

49:20

did it. In two thousand one, they couldn't find

49:22

two trillion

49:24

dollars. And just now, they just couldn't find two trillion two trillion

49:26

dollars. Did they check to the couch? I don't

49:28

think so. Well, now guess what? The

49:30

senate negotiators agree to add

49:33

forty five billion dollars to Biden's

49:35

defense budget. Now, forty five billion dollars is

49:37

enough to end homelessness in America. They're

49:39

not gonna do it. It's an I mean,

49:41

they could send everybody to college, they could give everybody a living ways, they could give everybody

49:43

they're not gonna do it. What are they gonna do?

49:45

They're gonna do

49:48

this. Why? Because America is a failed state? We are

49:50

a hundred percent corrupt. America is not

49:52

regular corrupt like people think.

49:54

America is a hundred that

49:56

American United States government is a hundred percent corrupt and it's

49:59

been bought by corporations and mostly

50:01

people in the military

50:04

industrial complex which is why we can

50:06

do this, while we have people sleeping

50:08

under every bridge and people going bankrupt when they

50:10

get sick. And we don't have air

50:12

conditioning Dore and we have chipping. We have in

50:14

in schools. We don't have enough hospital beds

50:16

when people get sick. We don't have

50:20

enough teachers. Right now in

50:22

America, we don't have right now, we don't have enough

50:24

teachers. They're gonna recruit people from the

50:26

military to go teach school.

50:28

But we could do this all fucking

50:30

day long. And you're worried about Russia.

50:32

If you're hurting, it's not because of

50:34

Russia. It's because you keep voting for

50:36

people who are criminals like

50:38

Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi,

50:40

Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell, Donald

50:42

Trump, all those people are

50:45

your enemy. They're not gonna do anything

50:47

for you. Who are they gonna do stuff for? Here it is. Joe Biden's the

50:49

biggest fucking criminal we've

50:51

ever elected president. That

50:54

includes Donald Trump. And

50:56

this is proof of it

50:57

right here. You know,

51:00

all those awesome movies

51:00

and that montage from the

51:03

other segment, they're not even gonna make awesome movies like that for

51:05

you anymore. No. You get nothing and

51:08

you'll get nothing and like it. Like Judge

51:10

Smales said in Caddish Shack,

51:12

shack An

51:13

emerging compromise on annual defense

51:16

policy legislation will endorse a forty

51:18

five billion

51:20

dollar increase. To president Joe

51:22

Biden's defense spending plans.

51:24

He's again, there's nothing

51:27

How is it we I I remember in the

51:29

two thousand dollar measly, though, yeah, it doesn't mean and I and I

51:31

hurt consumers. We can't afford to do that. And then all

51:33

of a sudden, we hundred

51:35

a hundred billion to send to send to send

51:37

to Ukraine, and now we found another forty five

51:40

billion. I hope if you're concerned we've been

51:42

starting to dawn on you, but you're getting dragged

51:44

a little bit. The deal would

51:46

set the budget top line of the fiscal

51:48

twenty twenty three national defense authorization act

51:50

at eight hundred and forty seven billion

51:52

dollars for national defense. And would go as high

51:54

as eight hundred and fifty eight billion dollars when

51:56

including programs that fall outside the jurisdiction of

51:58

the Senate House and armed

51:59

services committee. Though the major bill is

52:02

still in the in late stages of negotiations, lawmakers are poised

52:04

to deliver a second straight bipartisan

52:06

rebuke to the Biden administration's defense

52:10

spending plan. The White House sought eight hundred and two billion for the

52:12

National Defense spending budget.

52:14

What Dore when do they're they're

52:16

they're calling this a rebuke.

52:20

When was the last time someone rebuked you by giving you

52:22

more money than you asked for? I

52:25

mean, they're gonna to

52:27

give him two trillion, because we're gonna lose another two

52:30

trillion. This is all not enough. Can I get

52:32

a kiss? No. She

52:34

rebuked

52:35

him.

52:36

But how about

52:38

a blowjob?

52:41

Lawmakers are aiming

52:43

to have an NDA ready.

52:45

That's the National Defense Authorization Act. Ready for a

52:48

vote in the House next week. From there,

52:50

it would go to the Senate if approved, it would

52:52

head to about Biden's for signature. Negotiators have been tight lipped

52:54

on how they resolve the top

52:56

line. But a compromise was just how

52:58

about we all just totally loot

53:00

the treasury? That

53:02

a compromise. Compromise. How how do you think this will do versus paid

53:04

sick leave for the They can't give

53:06

pay you know how much paid sick leave for

53:09

the railroad workers would cost two

53:11

hundred and seventy five or three hundred

53:13

million dollars. No. We eat every penny. Forty five

53:15

billion dollars is given why not give

53:18

that to But a compromise was destined to endorse a national defense

53:20

budget that is tens of billions more than the

53:22

Biden sought after democrats and

53:24

Republicans in both chambers backed

53:26

large increases on the

53:28

premise of addressing high

53:30

inflation and keeping pace with China. What better way

53:32

to address high inflation and throw

53:34

money away? How do we keep

53:36

how do we keep pace with China? Well,

53:38

China will raise defense spending by seven

53:40

percent in twenty twelve faster than

53:42

last year. You know what they spend?

53:44

Defense spending will rise by seven to one point four five trillion Dore.

53:46

That's two hundred

53:48

and thirty billion dollars. Dore

53:51

you know that's I don't know. Twenty

53:53

five percent of what we're spending? They don't

53:55

even spend a quarter. if they get a

53:57

Blue Water Navy?

54:00

The

54:02

total US defense budget for twenty

54:04

twenty two comes in at just under seven hundred

54:06

and seventy billion dollars.

54:08

That's what China's spending. That's what we're

54:11

spending. And they're increasing it by forty five billion

54:13

dollars because we have to keep up with

54:15

the people spending Levis. Well,

54:18

we have to keep up with all all of Nato

54:21

has to keep up, and we pay

54:23

for everyone else's stuff that they don't pay for

54:25

because they get healthcare and

54:28

With inflation factored in, it is good increase,

54:30

but it's essential because of inflation. And

54:32

also, the need to continue significant

54:36

programs said armed services

54:39

chair, Jack Reid, a

54:41

Democrat from Rhode Island, and a

54:43

complete fucking Dore, and

54:46

your enemy. He said in an interview, though, he did not specify what amount

54:48

of panels agreed upon. In the

54:50

senate, thirteen Republicans are threatening

54:52

to oppose advancing

54:54

the bill unless they receive a vote to undo the administration's

54:56

military vaccine mandate. They

54:58

want to barred the Department of Defense from

55:00

kicking out troops solely

55:02

because they don't receive

55:04

the shot Dore reinstate

55:06

personnel who have been drummed out

55:08

with back pay. While the

55:10

Department of Defense certainly must make decisions

55:12

that will bolster military readiness, the

55:14

effects of the mandate are

55:16

antithetical to the readiness of our forces, and the

55:18

policy must be revoked at

55:20

the GOP. Rand Paul says, so how do the big spenders from

55:22

both parties and congress respond to the

55:24

Pentagon failing to track two point

55:26

one trillion? They

55:28

increase the Pentagon budget. That's the penalty. The

55:30

Pentagon bill now totals eight hundred and

55:33

fifty seven billion. That's fifty five billion

55:35

more than the president requested. It's

55:37

more than we spend on transportation, veterans

55:40

education, veterans education,

55:42

justice, international affairs, the environment

55:45

housing, science, space, job

55:48

trading, and employment combined. If

55:53

you don't think was was corrupt?

55:55

We hear that school. He he

55:57

said Trump, you know, you have no

55:59

idea how much corruption

56:01

is eight hundred and fifty seven billion

56:04

dollars. By the way, that's just what's

56:06

on the book. That's just what you're allowed to

56:08

see, not the secret book. can

56:10

end homelessness with less than fifty five

56:12

billion. A budget is a reflection of

56:14

values and we should value our own

56:16

house neighbors and provide them

56:18

resources Dore further expand the military

56:20

industrial complex. A moral hazard of

56:22

that.

56:23

What What

56:24

about the borough haggard? Did you help vote for

56:26

the ninety billion in eight to Ukraine Nazis?

56:29

Oh, so Ilhan Omar getting

56:32

called out for her hypocrisy. Right. You are also part of

56:34

the reason the Pentagon bill has exploded. She voted

56:37

for the ninety billion aid to

56:40

Ukraine She's a she's also a bull shitter. So there you

56:42

go. If you wanna know about corruption, it's

56:44

your government. It's not Russia.

56:47

It's not China. It's your government. The

56:49

United States government more corrupt than

56:52

Russia. More corrupt than

56:54

China. More corrupt than maybe the rest of the

56:56

world put together. You're being run

56:58

by criminals and their name aren't

57:00

Donald Trump. You're being run by

57:02

criminals. Their name is the military

57:04

industrial complex. The the

57:06

the the the the

57:08

military district complex, the

57:10

health insurance industry, big pharma, and

57:13

the oil companies and big tech. That's just actually running your country. It's

57:15

and the people like Joe Biden who's

57:18

demented is not making

57:20

any decisions. Those decisions

57:22

are being handed to him by Wall Street

57:24

and military industrial complex. And

57:26

if you don't think so, look at that

57:28

fucking budget. That budget tells

57:30

you where their priorities are and the

57:32

American citizen ain't it. You

57:34

they're your enemy. Who's your

57:37

enemy? Russia? No. Dore

57:38

enemy is the United

57:39

States fucking government, and it's time you rise up

57:42

against it.

57:46

Hey. This is Jimmy.

57:49

Who's

57:49

this? Jimmy, this is Vince.

57:51

How

57:51

are you, babe? A,

57:54

double v. What's on your mind, baby? Feel like

57:56

talking politics? Absolutely

57:58

not

57:59

controversial

57:59

Internet. They you're Jimmy

58:02

Doran. I value our

58:04

friendship too much and

58:06

decided that since every time we talk politics, I

58:08

get physically to discussed it by what

58:10

the left he showed you on, that

58:12

moving so when this will be a politics free

58:14

zone. Well, that might be a problem

58:16

considering what the Jimmy Doors Show's

58:18

all about. You

58:19

know what? I hear that loud and

58:21

clear. I hear that.

58:23

Mhmm. That's why I'm not coming to you empty hand

58:25

if there is something else we

58:27

could talk about. Dental

58:28

Town, baby. What? You

58:30

know you love it,

58:33

bitch.

58:33

Hollywood, the lights,

58:35

the stars, the hats

58:38

the flops, the bottoms, and the tops.

58:40

I

58:40

got it all right in

58:43

there. So

58:45

without further ado, It's

58:47

Vince Vaughan, Hollywood, Men Oh,

58:50

wait a minute, Vince.

58:52

I think that name might already be taken.

58:55

Okay then.

58:55

How about this? Vince Barnes,

58:58

Kensington show opinions.

59:04

Okay. Alright. Let

59:05

her rip bids. Jimmy,

59:08

this week,

59:08

the long awaited Avatar two,

59:11

the way of water splash

59:13

Dore in theaters. Are you gonna see

59:15

it, Jimmy? No. Oh my goodness.

59:17

Why not?

59:17

Critics are calling it a sumptuous feast

59:20

for the

59:22

senses. And hopefully, we'll answer some of the burning unanswered

59:24

questions from the first avatar.

59:26

Such as Who

59:30

actually fucking saw the first epic

59:32

card. It was one of the highest grossing

59:34

movies of all time, but I didn't see it.

59:36

You didn't see it. Literally no one. I

59:38

no saw

59:40

it. How's that even possible? And I don't even

59:42

know anything about it. All I know is

59:44

it looked like if the blue man group were

59:48

dressed fun kids and move to Bali. Yeah.

59:50

I can't even name one character. Can

59:52

you? No. Not nope.

59:55

Me neither. I've never seen Star Wars, but

59:57

I know who fucking Darth Vader is.

59:59

That's

59:59

right. With this horse and I can't

1:00:01

even Dore one guy, not

1:00:04

the one. Anyway,

1:00:05

moving on. Speaking of

1:00:08

water, the whale is

1:00:10

also making a splash on the

1:00:12

big screen.

1:00:14

The whale to whale,

1:00:16

Jimmy, direct you by Darren

1:00:18

Aronofsky. Brendan Fraser plays a

1:00:20

reclusive six hundred pounds band struggling

1:00:22

with Dore than OPC.

1:00:24

It's five raise your sympathetic portrayal, the film is being

1:00:26

blasted blasted Jimmy as

1:00:28

fat phobic. Perhaps and

1:00:31

I'm just kidballing here

1:00:33

because the movie is

1:00:35

titled The fucking whale.

1:00:38

Right. But

1:00:40

Furthermore, fat rights activist argue that such a character should

1:00:42

not be portrayed by a normal sized

1:00:44

person in prosthetics, so rather by

1:00:47

an actual six hundred pound

1:00:50

actor. Which as you know, the A List is

1:00:53

teaming with. Making a total

1:00:55

party in the Hollywood Hills these days

1:00:57

without getting awkwardly wedged.

1:01:00

Between a couple of morbidly obese superstars holding three Oscars

1:01:02

each. I just can't. Hi, guys. See

1:01:06

your point. I mean, come on, man.

1:01:08

Let's get real. If a script

1:01:10

calls for the ugly person, Hollywood won't

1:01:12

even catch an actual ugly

1:01:14

person. No. They have to

1:01:16

get Christian Taylor Jared legal and fuck the fighting.

1:01:18

Yep. They aren't they aren't

1:01:22

ugly early actors. They're just hard. In order to

1:01:24

have the confidence and complete lack of

1:01:26

conscience to make it in this industry, you have to be

1:01:28

super good

1:01:30

looking. I've always said it.

1:01:32

But we're gone.

1:01:34

Okay, Vince. What else you got? I'll

1:01:36

tell you what else my man. Netflix is

1:01:38

highly anticipated Harry and Meghan.

1:01:41

Harry

1:01:41

and I

1:01:42

just produced documentary series

1:01:44

about how the bad about the bad

1:01:47

things that happened to Harry and

1:01:49

Meghan. Is making quite a splash.

1:01:52

A lot of splashing going on, baby.

1:01:54

And is someone

1:01:55

who has not watched one second of

1:01:58

this show I can highly recommend it to people who like to get mad

1:01:59

about shit that has nothing to

1:02:01

do with them. Body

1:02:04

language experts and

1:02:06

everyone's mom.

1:02:08

Sounds wonderful. Oh, Jimmy,

1:02:11

it is. When they

1:02:12

did that poor woman over there,

1:02:14

two brothers having a silent rift the queen is

1:02:17

kind of cold. All these twisted

1:02:19

turns, it is

1:02:20

just a talk of a town on both sides of the

1:02:24

pond. I I really don't understand this interest in the royal

1:02:26

family. Jamie, honestly, I

1:02:28

think it's

1:02:28

because we can all see a little bit of

1:02:32

ourselves in them and their struggles.

1:02:34

Really?

1:02:34

really

1:02:36

No. It's because people have

1:02:37

no lives where we can

1:02:40

Okay. Okay. Well, there it is. My

1:02:42

show opinions about

1:02:43

things that I have never seen and never

1:02:45

will, but know about. Well, great

1:02:47

bids. We really, really

1:02:50

appreciate it. Right

1:02:50

place at Jimmy Dorr. You know Dore think we should do

1:02:52

now? What's that, pal? I think

1:02:54

we should both pour one

1:02:55

out to RipTorn.

1:02:58

Yeah. A classic, an

1:03:00

absolute legend, and still missed.

1:03:02

Later,

1:03:02

baby. Great idea.

1:03:06

Thanks, Vince.

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