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Matt Floyd joined as always by Kamar. Welcome to

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What we do here is very simple. The three of us have

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listened to every episode of the Joe Rogan Experience this week. We're

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Come on. That's a great joke. No

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page shows this week. You got to get on the rhythm

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on the algorithm. Do that work.

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That is really funny. I'm sorry. I have

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to break format here. Sure. I know

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we don't talk about our weeks anymore, but it's so

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important. I think you'll appreciate this. I think everybody

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will. I don't think we have time. So

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we were driving over on the way here and I said,

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I said, I have to tell you

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something entre nous, which I

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don't speak French. I don't know

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what he's talking about. All I know is what he

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told me needs to be told to the world as

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a public service. Okay. This

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is what he said. Okay, I'm going to tell

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you. Thank you for telling me all about that.

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No, I'm going to tell you what he said

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and then we're going to work backwards. Entreneux, I

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said. He started with entreneux. Which you're breaking right

2:12

away. Oh, right away. Yeah. I

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shat out a zin. No, no, no, what did he

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say? I found a zin in my ass.

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And I said, what? Okay,

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what? And he said a zin in

2:23

my ass. And I said, whoa,

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hold on a second. Let's get to

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the bottom of this. No pun intended

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or pun intended. So

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apparently he swallowed a zin. Okay.

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And I said, oh, so you shat

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out the zin? And he

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said, no, I found it in my ass

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in the shower. So at which point I had to say,

2:44

whoa, hold on a second. So

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you didn't shit out the zin,

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but you found the zin up your

2:50

ass. And he's like, well, I took

2:52

a shit and I thought it was clean. So

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you see what I'm dealing with here. You know

2:56

what I mean? Not only is he. So give

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it like a twig to get off a dog's

3:00

ass with a leaf or something. So

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we're not even sure what's happened here. Okay, Matt,

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we're not sure if he shat out the zin

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then didn't wipe and then found the zin in

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his ass in the shower. Or

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if the zin just somehow like made

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its way through his body, saw shit.

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You know what I'm saying? It just

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like repelled the zin pod from his

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stomach. Did you get drunk? Did you

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get drunk this week? And not

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the night before. Not like put

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a zin up your ass drunk. No. Oh,

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that's very interesting. My brain didn't ever go there. Are

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you sure you didn't put multiples in up your ass?

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Maybe I did because I'm starting to think

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that. He's like, this isn't going fast enough.

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Sublingually. That's what I'm saying. What's faster?

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Oh, I could totally anyone reddish someone being like,

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does anyone tried whooping a zin? Well, what happened?

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I get it. I know what happened. He

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was at work and they've started banning the

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zin. he was like,

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well, I need my nicotine. And his

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painting job. Then they'll add the shots

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of it. Ran into the bathroom, shoved

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a whole bunch of zinn up his ass,

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forgot they were there and one got left

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over. Entre neu. I

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just, how long? I

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would. Zinn

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packets are like substantial enough, right?

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No. First of all, isn't it

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weird that they wouldn't make them

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like biodegradable in your stomach? Well,

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that's why I'm thinking he put it in his

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ass. You know why, oh, you know why they

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can't do that? It's because you would have a

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massive OD on that nicotine. I imagine it's coming

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out too quickly all at once. If it absorbs

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through your stomach, like you're not supposed to eat

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the zinn, right? Obviously. But

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how many people are just fucking finding zinns in their

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ass, Matt? Well,

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leave a comment below if you've ever found a zinn in

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your ass crack. Come on. You want to go over the

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guest list? We can do what we actually do here. Entre

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neu. Entre neu. I'm sorry. I

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had to. Oh, I think you did the right

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thing. Thank you, Matt. I appreciate that. 2109,

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Abigail Schreier. 2110,

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the return of Fahim Anwar. Your

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favorite. He

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doesn't have a problem with Fahim Anwar.

5:18

Any successful brown comedian, Kumar has a

5:20

very big problem. Is he successful? See?

5:25

2111, Kat Williams. And

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then we fell off the week with 2112, Dan Soder. He

5:33

tried to slide Finn in there. He went with

5:35

Finn of the weekend off list, but that's not

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how it works. Did I say Kat Williams? Yeah.

5:39

Last week? It was going to be

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on? Did you? No. No, I don't. I don't know. I

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don't know. I slipped it in. But

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I swear to God, I was watching We Might

5:48

Be Drunk and Mark Dorm was talking about Kat

5:50

Williams and said, yeah, he said he wanted to

5:52

be a Rogan and now he's on. And

5:54

that was like two weeks ago. I

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heard about it, but I had not

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seen Interim. I think Joe

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would have an episode of

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Cat Williams and sit on it for

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two weeks. It's not just that,

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it's also that... Can't imagine that. What's... They're

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edited. Hold on, what's crazier though is what you mentioned,

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is he really sitting on social media

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clips? I

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mean, I guess if he has a team doing it

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and it's not him, then maybe. What

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I mean is that video of

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Cat Williams playing the driving

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simulator, that dropped the day

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the episode dropped. So

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what I'm saying is if he recorded that two

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weeks ago, he sat on a video that he

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had of Cat Williams playing the driving simulator and

6:39

instead of posting it when he got

6:41

the video like a normal person would.

6:44

That to me is less egregious than

6:46

him having this video or this episode

6:48

with Cat Williams, which Cat Williams, we

6:50

were talking about that three weeks ago,

6:52

you know what I mean? He

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has it at the time and then sits...

6:57

That's insane. Why not release it

6:59

and get the hype that surrounds it?

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Or maybe he's riding the wave and

7:03

re-hyping it. Maybe Mark was... I

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mean, again, Mark drinks a lot. He might've been speaking in

7:07

the way where he's like... He

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knows that Cat's going on. Yeah, no, that's what I

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assumed it was. Yeah, that's what it probably is. So

7:15

that sounds like the most likely. But

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it sort of sound like you said it and he was on it.

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So yeah, I don't know about that, but yeah, we're going to start this

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week off with 21. We want to rate the week first. Oh. I

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can't believe I'm on the ball. I've had fucking four

7:27

T's, so I'm just... That's what I do. I'm flying

7:30

on caffeine. I give it a four. Wow. I

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don't know about a four. Simon's

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doing math over there. I

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guess I'll give it a three. Simon,

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you want to kill the dead air in action? I'm

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going to give it a 2.85, Matt. Thank

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you, Simon. Simon. Back to you, Simon.

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Everyone. Simon with the

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weather notes. Come on, with the weather. All right, come on. up.

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2111 Cat Williams. So

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ends up being a pretty good episode but definitely not

8:06

the Cat Williams episode we were looking for. Thank you.

8:09

I didn't want to be the fucking Debbie Cowder. How

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do you have a guy on in

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the midst of all of this

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mayhem he causes and they don't

8:17

mention it once. They talked about

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the black people in dresses for

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about a minute before

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Joe, you know, sent

8:27

that down a different fucking hole. Can

8:30

I point something out too? Joe was like why do they

8:32

always try to put mask like beefy

8:34

masculine men in dresses and I was

8:36

like I'm sorry. Dave Chappelle back in

8:38

the day and Cat Williams at

8:40

any time in his life are not what I would call

8:44

beefy masculine. I didn't remember beefy. I just

8:46

remember him saying black out. When he was

8:48

talking about fajimi. He mentioned it later with

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fajimi Anwar and he

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said like intimidating big

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black men and again they

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did it with a lot of dude white

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men have done it forever. Think

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about kids in the hall first of all and I know you can

9:05

be like they did that to themselves. That's fine but

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my point is is like they were

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in Hollywood were they not that was a show

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on television they were men white.

9:16

Yeah I don't think it's the same thing. The

9:18

same thing is asking an actress to show her

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tits. No it's even

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worse than that. Okay I'm just trying to

9:24

find a the comparable would be

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like something

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terrible. It'll come to me anyways

9:34

but yeah no. What's something terrible?

9:37

Well no just putting them in the dress

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like that. Pardon me. In that like

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as a white guy getting in your dress and

9:46

then going back to your neighborhood and a black

9:48

guy getting in a dress and going back to

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his neighborhood it's way harder for the black guy.

9:52

The white neighborhood is a lot more understanding of

9:54

men dressing up in dresses let's put it that

9:56

way. So the white neighborhood

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is more open

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to acting is your point. No.

10:05

Like does Wesley Snipes when he's in Tu Wong

10:08

Fu thanks for everything. Totally different thing and that's

10:10

what Joe said too. But that's why I'm asking

10:12

you why is that different? Because that is a

10:14

movie about drag queens. Okay. What

10:17

they're having these guys do is

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like come out for these bit

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roles wearing the dress and

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it's to make fun of them

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not to... So when Eddie Murphy does it it's

10:28

fine. Did Eddie Murphy do it? Big

10:30

Mama's house like although... Well

10:33

he didn't do Big Mama's house. But the clumps.

10:35

He plays eight women. I know but he plays

10:37

he's playing as his kind of women and he

10:39

did it to himself. Fine Martin Lawrence Big Mama's

10:41

house. Well wasn't Martin

10:43

Lawrence running down the street with a gun like

10:45

15 years ago? Yes that was the story. I

10:48

believe it was the freeway in Atlanta. Anyways.

10:52

It writes itself. No I

10:54

disagree with you guys 100%. I couldn't

10:56

care less if they had talked about that. You can

10:58

do your own research. I think the silence on the

11:00

people that he talked about speaks

11:02

volumes. I think in general.

11:05

The people explain sorry. Well Kevin Hart hasn't

11:07

come out with a whole you know opus

11:09

about how... Well he... Cat Williams is a

11:11

category like you want. He spoke on it.

11:15

Did they? Yeah Kevin Hart did and

11:17

I heard him saying that Cat Williams...

11:19

He's a liar. Pretty much. Okay. Well

11:22

I hope Cat Williams wasn't lying in

11:25

this episode because someone said they'd listed some clips

11:27

to me and that they

11:29

thought Cat Williams was so defensive. Yes.

11:32

I saw that more as Cat

11:34

Williams didn't want to say

11:37

things. Oh he seemed very

11:39

very... Fear of reprisal. But

11:41

I don't get it like you're gonna go...

11:43

So he's willing to say all that on

11:45

Shannon Sharpe's podcast which is... Which gets so

11:48

many fucking views but he's not willing to

11:50

say it on Joe's. I don't really understand...

11:52

Maybe he got... Maybe something happened when he

11:54

said it on Shannon's podcast. Maybe he got

11:57

visited by the men in dresses. I

12:01

thought hilarious a different side

12:03

that you would not have expected to get from

12:05

cat imagine that's how it is it's like the

12:07

men in black but it's these two

12:09

huge black guys they show up in

12:12

dresses and convince you to got a

12:14

polka dot dress with this all motherfucker

12:17

sorry come over you saying you hope you

12:19

like playing a white lady that

12:22

would be the ultimate actually they

12:24

did that yeah white chicks yeah

12:26

you thought and they weren't wearing Joseph oh

12:29

they were worried you guys

12:31

think cat Williams is crazy I

12:34

think he's eccentric as fuck okay I'll

12:36

say that him not going on Rogan

12:38

and kind of defending some of the

12:40

things he said makes me question a

12:43

little bit that Shannon sharp episode but

12:45

it might have been just Rogan didn't

12:47

want to talk about those things but

12:49

why that would never stop from

12:52

saying what he wanted to say you know I mean

12:54

I fear for someone who's like I read

12:57

books oh dude and but

12:59

then is like a many

13:01

books some of them up to

13:03

200 a page I was like I was like

13:05

I think he misspoke I

13:09

think you

13:13

want to be like cat that's

13:15

most out look like don't give

13:17

this guy the stand by 200 pages so these books

13:19

are 100 to 200 pages long I would read 800

13:21

books a week

13:26

like Tai Lopez oh

13:30

I'm standing here with my Bentley

13:32

and all these books I read

13:37

would only motherfucking books would

13:39

you I've been gonna read all

13:41

these books think he's a conspiracy

13:44

theorist well

13:48

I mean that listen everyone's a

13:50

conspiracy theorist nowadays okay he's obviously

13:52

super into like some things I

13:54

really like well that's why you

13:56

loved the talking about the emerald

13:59

tablets that's Toss. Like,

14:01

Simon, there's no way coming into this, there's

14:04

zero percent chance coming into this you thought,

14:07

Cat Williams is gonna go hard on

14:10

like ancient civilization, space. No, that's not at

14:12

all what I thought this was gonna be.

14:14

Billy Carson. Do you know Billy Carson? Of

14:17

course not. Billy Carson is like,

14:21

I would even describe him. He's into

14:24

all that ancient civilization stuff, but like

14:26

Graham Hancock probably thinks Billy Carson is

14:28

crazy. Okay. He like

14:30

takes it to a whole other level. Yeah. He

14:33

was quoting Billy Carson directly in some of

14:35

this episode. That's always fun. Oh no, I

14:37

mean, and I'm not saying I don't believe

14:40

I'm just, he was super

14:42

into that shit, obviously.

14:45

I'd also say that I don't

14:47

think Joe wants to trash comics because

14:49

he had Kevin Hart on. Yeah. You

14:53

know, like he, he, he, he doesn't want anyone to

14:55

do that about comics. Well, no, it's the union, the

14:57

fraternity that you know what I mean? But we've

14:59

seen it before. So then

15:01

don't have cat Williams on, don't

15:03

have cat Williams on two weeks

15:06

after the biggest fucking uproar

15:08

in comedy history

15:10

ever, and then have them on

15:12

to talk about ancient civilizations. It's

15:14

like, it just, it don't make

15:17

no sense. It's too predictable. I'm

15:19

just going to use it wrong every time I can.

15:21

I don't know if you noticed before I said I'm

15:23

finna gun, I'm finna going to

15:25

do this. Yeah. It takes

15:28

the going to away. Yeah. It's

15:31

like you're learning double negative. You're learning a new

15:33

language. I'm putting out. Yeah. I'm

15:35

finna give it a try. You see, I did it again. Yeah. No,

15:38

I'm finna give it a try. That works. It

15:41

always works. I finna try. I'm finna

15:43

give it a try. You're a winner. But even when you

15:45

get here, you're not getting it. It's not a good look

15:47

right now. Anywho

15:50

this is finna and looks at the only black words

15:53

in the room goes, I nail it. I'm not saying

15:55

I did not like this

15:57

episode. I very much like this episode at the

15:59

same time. If I'm Matt,

16:01

I'm enraged by this. I was

16:03

enraged one who has no interest

16:05

in the ancient civilizations This episode

16:08

would in the rage me it

16:10

would in rage me. I would

16:12

be yelling at the motherfucking An

16:16

hour in an hour in I was like

16:18

someone get him a motherfucking cognac Get

16:23

this guy drunk like let's open the

16:25

floodgates come on I

16:27

was bummed. Yeah, right I definitely

16:29

I definitely got the impression that

16:31

cat williams was constantly holding back

16:35

Well, even when he was talking crazy about

16:37

the ancient civilizations He was holding back and

16:39

acting like joe if you don't know

16:41

what i'm talking about We

16:44

can't talk anymore. You know, what's weird

16:46

to me is that cat williams in his comedy is

16:48

like Very well

16:50

spoken. It's all like the jokes

16:52

are what does joe call it the economy

16:54

of words? Like he's very but when you on

16:57

this podcast, it was like talking to

16:59

parker I'll

17:02

probably edit that part out. But you know Do

17:04

you know you know how sometimes like Parker's

17:07

a bad example, but you know, sometimes someone will

17:09

be talking to you and they're like being so

17:11

cryptic But they think they think that you're on

17:13

the same page as them. That's

17:15

that's exactly what was happening here. Yeah

17:19

But it seemed like cat knew something that

17:21

he Could say could harm

17:23

him If

17:26

I don't know and maybe that's just making the

17:28

air to seem like so i'm i'm not sure

17:30

i'm understanding What you're saying

17:33

here entreneux Um, what

17:35

does that mean anymore? Are

17:37

you saying cat was holding back like

17:39

what's your stance here? I don't get

17:41

it Uh,

17:44

well, no, I would like everything cat to say is true

17:46

There is a god the aliens have come

17:49

here the pyramids were a power plant. There's

17:51

an illuminati I know but what's your stance

17:53

on like them not talking about anything else?

17:57

I mean because I just they don't joe

17:59

doesn't do that he's never

18:01

been on his show he didn't even

18:03

trash Donnell for Donnell

18:05

cutting all over the RZA or whatever

18:08

like being an interrupter he spared

18:10

him it's not his style true

18:12

to trash other comics so that

18:14

wasn't gonna happen so Joe was

18:16

pretty much he was just

18:18

kind of calling out tech cuz Kat said

18:20

Joe doesn't want me on the podcast yeah

18:23

I want you on the podcast just to

18:25

show I don't want you on right but

18:27

we're not gonna talk about any we don't

18:30

shit on comics well in Joe's defense to

18:32

let's let's hold on in Joe shit on

18:34

comics but in Joe's not on rowing I

18:37

think it's also kind of a greasy move to

18:39

just be like bring him

18:41

in and try to do the same part

18:43

like I don't worry I

18:46

agree yeah so like to me I mean

18:48

I get what you're saying Simon you would

18:50

like Joe almost as a

18:52

friend of people to go hey what six

18:54

comics do you think aren't worth their salt

18:57

that I had all that you know what

18:59

I mean or maybe not that question but

19:01

I think he could take away anything said

19:03

about Rogan's crew which was only one comment

19:05

and focus on some of the other stuff

19:07

that was said maybe spend a little more

19:09

time on the dresses maybe talk about like

19:12

okay they're not gonna talk about Kevin Hart

19:14

I get that because they don't want to

19:17

but like who gives a fuck about Steve Harvey

19:19

who gives a fuck about Cedric the entertainer these

19:21

guys aren't real comedians they're not part of

19:23

that brotherhood you're not on black Twitter things

19:25

well and I mean Simon's right he just

19:27

goes race card on me did you see

19:30

what he did there go fuck yourself sorry

19:32

dude you're not on any

19:34

fucking color Twitter what's

19:36

funny is that like he acts like you

19:38

can't go on black Twitter no

19:41

I'm just saying it was big in a community

19:44

for the culture it was huge what was he

19:46

I don't know if my mom cat williams cat

19:48

Williams is Steve what

19:50

am I not seeing that was on black Twitter

19:52

though that contradicts what I just said

19:55

that it's none of like it's not

19:58

Joe's purview cuz he's white Also,

20:01

come on, he's never gonna have Steve

20:03

Harvey or Cedric the entertainer on. This

20:05

is what I'm saying. I understand when

20:07

he was on Willie

20:09

Dee's podcast, they talked

20:11

about it. And maybe the

20:13

one thing I'll give you, Joe could have asked

20:15

who were the unfunny comedians that are surrounding me.

20:17

Even when he's saying that it sounds... I wouldn't

20:19

have done that. It's not what I'm saying. He

20:22

could have picked some parts of that thing and

20:24

they could have had some fucking pretty meaningful discussions

20:26

about what was going on. Instead, it went in

20:28

a whole different direction. I liked it, but I

20:30

could see it. And whatever result came from that,

20:32

it would not make your life any better. I

20:35

also got the vibe that Kat... This did make

20:37

my life better. I also got the vibe that

20:39

Kat was like, you're one of the unfunny comedians.

20:43

He didn't seem to have a lot of respect for

20:46

Joe. Interesting. I'll back that shit.

20:48

Like, I think Kat just went on because

20:50

someone in his camp was like, if

20:52

you get an invite to the biggest podcast in the

20:54

world... You don't say no. Yeah, you kind of have

20:57

to go. He's given you the green light. For

20:59

sure, though, there was... Because if you think about...

21:01

You mentioned the Willy Dee. I'm sorry to cut

21:03

you off, Kamar. You mentioned the Willy Dee. Just

21:05

go back and watch that Willy Dee or Shannon

21:07

Sharp podcast. He seems much more open and friendly

21:10

and way more. Black Twitter. Yeah.

21:13

Maybe you're right, though. Maybe it was just having a

21:15

little bit of cognac. Maybe

21:18

just being so high and not

21:20

drinking just made him super introspective.

21:22

Who knows, man? I

21:25

don't think so. I think it was more... He

21:27

was just watching his words very carefully for whatever

21:29

reason. Maybe he thought Joe was going to try

21:31

and trap him and he was just like, who

21:34

knows? I don't know. They had never met. They're

21:36

not buddies. They never met.

21:38

Which is insane, right? No.

21:41

I think it's insane. If you're a successful

21:43

comedian, you should never

21:45

see comedians. He saw that

21:48

Joe had a dress ready. He was like, not

21:50

drinking any goddamn cognac. Nothing?

21:53

Okay. I'm

21:56

sorry. I'm just so annoyed by him. Though

22:00

not as you know you know morning radio

22:02

that wasn't playing your phone. How

22:07

did they know Mises read? They.

22:09

Always had to telescopes. A.

22:11

But there was a ratings of Mars being a

22:13

red planet before than. That I

22:15

don't know in this endeavor it looks right

22:17

like on a beer with no with no

22:19

light pollution. It. Shine

22:22

somewhat read may be and it's close

22:24

enough to as is neither. Maybe. Like

22:28

if you were in the desert and it was

22:30

the close as they get when you are i

22:32

your cottage cheese and see the nurse is not

22:34

the guess as to as though mercury man very

22:36

know what I'm saying no is it's one of

22:39

the closest to us and when I'm saying is

22:41

in the rotation where it's the closest to the

22:43

earth on a clear Ceo with your bare i

22:45

yeah you might be other than okay or that

22:47

that that's a that's a strike. On

22:50

how to strike as it I was saying.

22:52

That's what I think. That's my opinion. The

22:54

Rings of Saturn though. Like that's it's fucking

22:56

crazy. You think you'll never believe in God.

23:00

Will now because you to it We may see

23:02

that they knew bothering Assad him before they could

23:04

see the ring as yes yes that's that's crazy

23:06

right Are we have yes I know Jersey I'm

23:09

but again that's ipod like it's like Einstein I

23:11

the size in the black hole before they were

23:13

found one. Goes.

23:15

Back to the Romans. What?

23:17

Does? Mars. Being okay.

23:19

yeah that day. Because

23:21

Mars was there.of war. Fiery was because they were

23:24

seeing something read in the sky. So maybe you're

23:26

right, it was just air without all the light

23:28

pollution and shit like that. When it's in, it's

23:30

right or better whenever exactly what I'm saying. And

23:32

that had the right and on the right night.

23:35

And the right. Yeah, it would. In

23:37

a very dark sky where everything is one color

23:39

out on? I mean we know for certain that

23:42

is quite possible. We. Also know

23:44

for certain that lake. When

23:47

they take a picture of outer space. They.

23:49

Then make up the colors for hood

23:51

or snake. Well a guy told me

23:53

not lost sight on our Friday night.

23:56

That. they can see through a telescope

23:58

the moon lander Like

24:02

he can or that like with the

24:04

right can he said they can see

24:06

with the telescope the moon lander

24:08

and there's also near as they put up there

24:11

that reflect that doesn't surprise me

24:13

though come on like we see the moon. You

24:17

can almost see a crater of the moon from here you

24:19

know what I mean I know but that would just prove

24:21

the someone's been there. It's

24:23

pretty well yeah but it doesn't mean that they

24:25

went when they said they were and it also

24:27

doesn't mean that humans have ever gone they could

24:29

have just said a fucking. Thing

24:32

up there considering all the difficulties are having

24:34

in 2020 doing it I

24:37

just wonder how they got so lucky back then. I'm

24:40

just nailed it seven times in a row. When

24:44

Joe's ask about shadow governments and

24:47

he said a shadow government is no more difficult

24:49

to run than a normal government. Would

24:52

you have a sort of weird thing with the they

24:54

being super competent. Right

24:57

well we but that's the thing is like that's why I you

25:00

know. If you see true

25:02

to the I don't know I just that's

25:04

that's why I was saying to Simon a

25:06

couple years ago like I read this book

25:08

about conspiracies and the guy's whole point was

25:10

like conspiracies do exist. We

25:13

almost always find out about them takes

25:15

a little sometimes it takes a long time

25:17

but like most conspiracies come to light eventually.

25:20

The court cases through redacted statements

25:23

through whatever we eventually find out

25:26

so there are conspiracies yeah

25:28

the point was that there's like

25:30

every single conspiracy hear about is

25:32

not necessarily. It

25:36

doesn't give it you're saying

25:38

some of it is just dumb people doing stupid

25:40

things and not necessarily a conspiracy yeah and sometimes

25:42

just people making shit up just saying I think

25:44

that you know what I mean like it there

25:46

are conspiracies of course like the golf of talk

25:48

and we can. I

25:51

guess there are some that we don't find out about like Jeff

25:53

K we still don't really know. Well

25:56

I mean we know it's not what

25:58

they said. We

26:00

can all agree on that. Yeah. But again,

26:02

without fully knowing, like we don't, you know what I

26:04

mean? You'd think this far out, we'd

26:06

have all the pieces of the puzzle. I mean,

26:08

they have, I was just listening to a documentary.

26:10

They have a lot of pieces of the puzzle

26:12

now because a bunch of FOIA shit came through,

26:14

right? Like they can only hide things for 15

26:17

hours or whatever. Like it's pretty fucking, and this

26:19

is crazy. It's pretty

26:22

evident now, even to a

26:24

layman looking at the

26:27

proof they have that the

26:29

CIA killed John

26:32

F. Kennedy. That means that

26:36

their own country killed their own,

26:38

like that should be the

26:40

biggest story ever of all

26:42

time today. Today, if

26:44

they know that, if they found something

26:46

new and they know that your own

26:49

government killed your own president, like come

26:51

on, that is the, and

26:53

then you talk about freedom. I have

26:55

the freedom to say whatever I want,

26:57

but here, when we don't like

27:00

what our president's doing, we just kill them.

27:03

Oh, it does. That's you're right. It changes the whole

27:05

freedom talk. Fucking insane. Dude, that's insane.

27:07

What's crazy there though, is cause

27:09

we're way more free than they

27:12

are. We're not killing any of

27:14

our prime ministers. Kennedy was assassinated

27:16

and the narrative would have been Lee Harvey

27:18

Oswald. Like, I don't know how

27:20

many people at that time were thinking about second shooters

27:22

and stuff, except for the people involved. Nobody.

27:25

And then the Zapruder film came out

27:27

and that started it. So from that

27:29

point till, and like you

27:31

said, it's just been such a slow burn,

27:33

the release of that one. The CIA also

27:35

like, um, have

27:38

their, they have Oswald as their Patsy,

27:41

but they also have the whole

27:43

mob as their Patsy as well. Cause

27:46

that's what most people thought. Oh, the

27:48

mob killed JFK. That's a conspiracy. And

27:51

you're like, okay, well it is a conspiracy. And

27:53

then meanwhile, nope. You

27:55

know what I mean? Just people inside

27:57

our own government, not our

27:59

government. Their government. But that's a good example

28:01

too. Like conspiracy can also be created by

28:03

the government just to create the

28:05

narrative they want. Which they do all the

28:07

time. Matt, look at the UFO thing like

28:10

that. Remember I told you, um, for every,

28:12

for every, um,

28:17

like a government op,

28:20

there's a disinformation op that goes

28:22

with that op. That's just part

28:25

of the course of action. And

28:27

it has been for a long time in the United States,

28:30

but you're not saying like opposition or operation.

28:36

Yeah. Operation operation. I thought it was

28:38

going ops. Keep with the finish for

28:40

every op. There's a counter meaning that

28:42

there's people out there spreading misinformation about

28:44

every operation that they do just to

28:46

make sure that if somebody

28:49

gets caught, they can say that they're crazy. Like

28:51

there's all sorts of reasons, but cats.

28:54

Sure. There's aliens. Sure. They've been here. Sure.

28:56

They built the pyramids. I

28:58

thought it was interesting too. How, when,

29:00

um, Joe was

29:02

like doing his bit about, uh, from

29:05

the beginning of the cell phone with Michael Douglas

29:07

and cat was like, whoa, no, no, no.

29:10

Someone on a CB would care to disagree with you. And do you

29:12

ever remember as a kid, I haven't walkie talkies. Of

29:15

course, it's the best. It was good. So

29:18

it's not such a stretch the

29:20

phone all of a sudden. No,

29:23

you, we could have had, had this sort of communication long ago.

29:27

If everyone had their own CB and

29:29

then you start a thread. Yeah. You just

29:31

phone somebody and then put the walkie talkie right up

29:33

to the, um, just speaking of

29:35

pyramids for

29:37

a sec, cause I was watching something on or listening

29:40

to something they were talking about all

29:42

the, um, so in, in,

29:45

let's just take Egypt. Okay. In

29:47

Egypt, there's the, whatever the 15

29:49

pyramids that we know about. And

29:52

then there's something like a presumed another, who

29:55

knows, 50, a hundred pyramids buried

29:57

underground. Okay. That they're just. Buried

30:00

by time in South

30:03

America there's like

30:06

some crazy number like ten

30:09

thousand twenty twenty thousand whatever how many

30:11

thousand pyramids that are buried beneath the

30:14

Jungle there is pyramids that they're finding all

30:16

just all over the place and we're not

30:18

talking in Like

30:21

the rainforest you're talking about like

30:23

thousands and thousands of pyramids It

30:27

would totally make sense if those

30:29

things were energy conductors Mm-hmm.

30:33

It just seems to me like it's like

30:35

exactly what Tesla said they were building these

30:37

things to harness energy we

30:39

see these four giant ones in Egypt

30:43

and You don't even think

30:45

of them like that because how could

30:47

this one thing power enough of the

30:50

desert? You know what I'm saying, but

30:52

it wasn't it was these networks of

30:54

pyramids and they happen everywhere you find

30:56

pyramids This is just

30:59

interesting and like you say how

31:01

stupid it be that these people were just building

31:03

a mon Mausoleum, well, we

31:05

know that's not true. Like that's

31:07

that's another that's what you were taught as

31:10

a kid. Mm-hmm King Tut that was up

31:12

to they wanted a tomb. Thank you. Mona

31:14

Lisa Well, my mom leaves them

31:16

is the right thing too. Yeah, it's not

31:18

you're not wrong with mausoleum Yeah, and I'm

31:20

just dead. We don't have with us quit.

31:22

So we never gonna know we finished it

31:25

We know that for a fact that that

31:27

is not true and they're in complete disrepair

31:30

And they're in I don't know what that has to

31:32

do with anything Well, it could have a chemical reaction

31:34

or something that it actually does what it does with

31:37

the lime and the gold on the top Oh, what

31:39

are you saying is in it? In

31:41

its purest form it could have like harnessed the

31:43

Sun. Yeah, we don't whatever we don't understand I

31:46

think that probably has more to do with what

31:48

was going on inside the pyramid. Sure. I But

31:51

I could be wrong. What do I know? I

31:54

always just assumed the outside was shiny like that so you

31:56

could see it from a long way away But you're right.

31:58

It might be to conduct some sort of energy Who

32:00

fucking knows the capstone which they can't

32:02

find those top pieces of the pyramid

32:05

that could have been some over gold weren't

32:07

they well, we don't what do we fucking

32:09

know the same people who tell us those

32:11

were gold Matt or the same people who

32:13

Tell you that they're mizana

32:16

lelums That

32:19

their crypts, you know, yeah, well, maybe the

32:21

cap was the key to the whole thing well,

32:23

that's interesting because the guy

32:25

who built the coral

32:28

castle he Said

32:31

he harnessed the power of the pyramids and he

32:33

did everything from that little black box that people

32:35

saw him using So maybe it was something along

32:38

the same lines but

32:40

they know like inside the The

32:42

Great Pyramid of Giza. I like I like how

32:45

he like I Was

32:47

gonna show you ruffled through like he had

32:49

like prepared like a folder. Yeah, like all

32:51

let me let me just check my nose

32:54

Let me check my murderer's dribbles here

32:56

real quick raw something for you pyramid

33:01

Yeah, it has like a

33:03

thing and then there's weird little

33:05

corridor things that run like all

33:07

the way It

33:10

you can't walk through them. Well, you can but

33:12

it's like insane You know what? I mean, you're

33:15

bending over no normal person would those aren't meant

33:17

for people to walk through It's meant for something

33:19

totally different But if man if we were a

33:21

lot shorter back then couldn't you walk through it

33:23

a little easier? Like if everyone was four feet

33:26

does that change everything? Well, that would change some

33:28

of the Which

33:30

makes it even crazier that they're using those

33:32

giant stones Matt if everybody's only four feet

33:34

and they're lifting stones that were 100

33:37

tons. Yes and no, but what if what if just

33:40

like apes we were a lot stronger, too Yeah,

33:42

like what if as we got taller like the

33:44

weapon Yama's of the world like we just stretch

33:46

out, right? I think that could like we're like

33:48

ants You know what? I mean? We're we used

33:50

to be able to carry five times our weight,

33:52

but we were a lot sturdier and smaller can

33:54

carry like a hundred I get it, but I'm

33:57

not like I was just making a comparison I

34:00

was going to say is these shafts, like

34:02

the King shaft or whatever, the Queen shaft

34:04

that runs up the middle of the shaft

34:06

shaft, running up

34:08

the middle of that pyramid. Uh, nobody

34:10

walks up that. Even if you were four feet,

34:12

it's like, it's not meant to

34:15

go through in that way. You know, anyway,

34:17

maybe I'm wrong. Who knows? Well,

34:20

I don't think we'll ever get the answers. Unfortunately.

34:22

We might on this one. Really?

34:24

You believe you're going to get your shaft

34:26

answer at some point in your life. Yes.

34:28

Here's what I think. Underneath the paw of

34:30

the Sphinx is a chasm. They

34:33

know this for a fact that

34:36

has always been rumored to be where

34:40

they were storing like not Alexandria's

34:42

library, but storing secret

34:44

stuff about the pyramids and they know

34:46

it's there. They're

34:49

just not allowed to go into it. So one day when, um,

34:53

whatever that guy's name is in Egypt, uh,

34:55

you know, who's going to get in? Ricky

34:57

had us. I don't remember his name, but,

34:59

um, you know who's going to get in there? Bin

35:04

Salman. Who's been Salman?

35:07

The Saudi. Do you think

35:09

he's the most powerful man in the world? Probably. Everybody

35:12

goes to for advice. No, the money

35:14

guy, not the advice

35:16

guy. Muhammad bin Salman. That's the same

35:18

thing. Sure. Okay. That's the same thing. The point

35:20

is he has all the money in

35:23

the world. He could easily go to Egypt

35:25

to be like, listen, we'll

35:27

give you a hundred billion

35:29

dollars as a country. You really

35:31

fix up a lot of infrastructure. We're going in there.

35:33

I could see that happening. Well, again, so there you

35:36

go. More to my points. We will find out that

35:39

we can't do it. We'll get there that we can't do

35:41

it. And inside that paw

35:43

underneath the paw of the thing. And the

35:45

chasm is the key. I think is the

35:48

key to what the pyramids are for. It's

35:50

all right there waiting for us. I

35:54

was like fucking Capone's bunker. You

35:56

just get down and just fuck.

35:58

There's Jimmy Hoffa's. carried underneath the

36:00

paws of the Sphinx, nothing else. For

36:03

all those so bummed. Fuck. Nothing

36:05

else. He would say though that

36:08

they killed Tesla. Yeah. He

36:10

wasn't, he was holding back there, which

36:12

is just crazy if that's true. Well

36:15

don't you assume that they killed Tesla?

36:17

I don't even know anything about Tesla.

36:19

Oh I told, listen, we know that

36:21

they made his name into mud. Exactly.

36:24

A-la Oppenheimer. A-la

36:26

Oppenheimer. Have you seen it? They made his name into

36:28

mud? You know

36:31

you're believing a Hollywood

36:33

movie. You don't

36:36

know how it's true. No, I'm believing me

36:38

growing up what I was taught in school and

36:40

the name Tesla was never mentioned in science or

36:42

anything. What were you taught about Oppenheimer in

36:45

school? I was just going to say, to be honest,

36:47

when I watched the movie I didn't know anything about

36:49

the communist shit period. I was just like, this guy

36:51

created the bomb. Yeah, that's all I knew. So I

36:54

didn't know that his name had been dragged through the

36:56

mud until I saw the film. That

36:58

name got dragged through the mud? No,

37:00

for real? I've never heard

37:03

people say bad things about Oppenheimer. Yeah, the

37:05

whole thing is that he had

37:07

Q level clearance to build the bomb. And

37:10

then once he was done building the bomb, the

37:12

US government, there was a guy in the

37:14

government that was like, he had made a slight,

37:17

like he had made a comment that everyone had laughed at the

37:19

guy. So this guy made it like

37:21

his life's work to ruin Oppenheimer. So

37:23

once he's done building the bomb, this

37:25

guy makes sure that he loses his

37:27

Q clearance and that like in the

37:29

record, it says that he was a

37:32

communist and he was sympathizing with commies.

37:35

And I swear to you, you had never heard. I never

37:37

heard that before. Yeah, me neither. And if

37:39

that's a smear campaign against somebody in history, they

37:41

did a real poor job of it. Well, yes,

37:43

and then she mentioned the same breath as Einstein,

37:45

but it's not. He's

37:48

never, you never learned about him. Kumar's point

37:50

is that this guy's, this guy's genius was

37:52

on the level of Einstein. And

37:55

like he's saying, you only hear

37:57

about that, you know, he created the bomb and the

37:59

bomb killed a lot of people. And he said that

38:01

Bhagavita verse, but the only thing you know about them.

38:04

Yeah, which is funny because again, he gets

38:06

quoted with saying that and it's actually from,

38:08

it's a Sanskrit quote

38:11

from the Bhagavita. Yeah. Bhagavita

38:13

Bhagavita. The Bhagavita? There's

38:19

no way Atlantis doesn't exist.

38:24

Well, that's a weird, but that's a weird thing. Like if you, no,

38:26

because all you're saying is at some point

38:28

in time, someone said, I'm going to make

38:30

up a thing called Atlantis. Yeah. And start

38:32

telling people it existed. Yeah. What I'm saying

38:34

is I, it's not crazy. It makes sense.

38:37

And everything on earth is here.

38:39

It's still here. It's Bhagavad

38:42

Gita. Bhagavad Gita. I

38:45

knew it was two different words. Bhagavad.

38:47

That's it. Bhagavad Gita. Yeah.

38:52

Kamar. Like the earth is still the earth.

38:56

Meaning what? Well, what I'm saying is

38:58

like if 10,000 years ago you called like

39:01

Mesopotamia is a good example, we don't call it

39:03

Mesopotamia anymore, do we? No, we call it like

39:06

Iran and Iraq. Precisely. It

39:08

doesn't mean that the area known as... Atlantis

39:10

could be Quebec. Precisely. Yes. That's

39:12

all I'm saying. I'm sure

39:14

Atlantis is not Quebec, but yes. And what

39:16

are you saying? You're saying Atlantis definitely exists

39:18

because we can find it on a map.

39:21

No, more like the idea of it. Where

39:24

did that come from? I mean, it

39:26

was a language thing.

39:29

It literally comes from one person. Jesus.

39:33

Atlantis. No, it's like

39:35

Socrates or one of those guys. So

39:40

great. Okay,

39:46

well, that's too much to say there. The more you

39:48

know, the more you find out how little you know.

39:51

Yeah. There was always

39:54

a time where I'd say if I knew...

39:58

If me then knew what I know...

40:00

now I'd kill it me then knew

40:02

what I know now fucking the end

40:04

chromagna man over here come

40:06

on you know what because I host

40:08

so much trivia I've realized that like even the smartest

40:10

person in the world has a by

40:13

and large has a pretty narrow like

40:19

skill set not skill set

40:21

knowledge base maybe something that's what

40:23

I'm looking for yeah well

40:28

you doesn't care well what no I'm trying to say is I wish

40:30

I knew I wish I knew what I knew when I was 25

40:32

now no you wish

40:35

when you were 25 you knew what you know no

40:37

I know that's what you normally say but I'm actually

40:40

whoever that guy was way better than me at living life

40:43

just yeah you know what I was

40:45

killing it yeah and I would like

40:47

to know what I knew then now

40:49

yeah so

40:52

sorry it was Plato and

40:55

Plato never saw Atlantis Plato heard about

40:57

Atlantis from like his grandfather who talked

40:59

to like pity the elder who you

41:01

know what I mean it was such

41:03

a weird

41:05

way that we know about this in the

41:08

first place I'm stupid

41:11

you guys but did you know that American made

41:13

in Mexico and took Texas yeah

41:16

isn't that the whole but that's what it is

41:18

but I never knew that America

41:20

in Vegas I'm looking for

41:22

the the the Alamo the

41:24

Alamo yeah there's not it

41:26

did the Mexican-American war yeah Texas was part

41:29

of Mexico I think is right on the

41:31

border and they went on their ass I

41:33

mean back when they were separating

41:36

countries that's I was

41:38

in California also part of Mexico they

41:40

weren't separating they were taking well a

41:42

new Mexico was probably part of Mexico

41:44

now that would make sense but yeah

41:46

to bring it back to cat

41:48

he was talking about First Nations and

41:50

it is really a shame the way we've

41:53

treated First Nations in general around the world

41:55

had they been like revered

41:58

revered Knowledge

42:00

that they may know along these other paths if

42:02

he's like aren't all of us First Nations in

42:04

a way No, I don't want to

42:06

get tight to him like that. But just what they know like about

42:08

no, I'm just don't shake your head I'm

42:11

getting real technical here Like we're all

42:13

from people that were but our first people

42:15

are we not oh, you're not first nations

42:17

to hear No, what I'm saying though is

42:19

like everyone like I get what he's

42:22

saying Your tradition stories are

42:24

different than theirs. Yeah, of course. So you're

42:26

both interesting. No, I'm not as interesting No,

42:28

no, you know, I was trying to be

42:30

nice But

42:33

yeah, I mean it's been squandered but hopefully

42:35

there's something but That's

42:37

a missing piece for sure maybe

42:40

Aztecs to our first

42:42

nations to Borneo

42:45

or whatever Well, that's

42:47

that's that's a weird. That's hilarious to me. Just

42:49

speaking of that is like the

42:53

Indians in the south South

42:56

America Central America Southern

42:58

America We're

43:00

all building massive fucking

43:03

complexes, but not our natives

43:05

up here. We were Killing

43:07

each other and riding horses, you know what I

43:09

mean? These were the same people. They just migrated

43:12

from one place to the other Maybe

43:14

there are less stones up here. I Highly

43:17

well, they did migrate but they did

43:19

it almost like invisibly It probably Matt

43:21

and I'm just thinking off the top

43:23

of my head here had to do

43:25

with the ice melt I

43:28

was just gonna say winter in general.

43:30

We have so much more hidden still

43:32

up here probably under the snow Nobody

43:34

even forget that wouldn't you not would you not like if

43:37

you can't work on something year-round? Like

43:40

if you know something is gonna take 50 years

43:42

to build But then you're like,

43:44

well if we can only do it for three four months of the

43:46

year It's

43:48

gonna take 150 years you might not

43:50

even bother I hear what you're saying We're

43:52

assuming that it took them that long to

43:54

build that we don't know that okay The

43:56

weirdest is the Inuit because one thing we

43:59

kept saying is like First Nations

44:01

and not just one

44:03

in particular, always, he said, we're always

44:05

in the right spot. They're

44:08

always in a good climate. But

44:11

how are those people living? Because

44:14

you said, if it's not good here, we'll just move

44:16

to another place. We don't have buildings or anything. But

44:18

people stayed in the Arctic and just lived

44:20

in ice. Not a lot of

44:22

people, let's be fair. It's not like the

44:25

populations of the Arctic are the same as

44:27

the populations of the – Well,

44:29

maybe what you're saying is right,

44:31

though, Kumar. Maybe, however many years

44:33

ago, when it wasn't so much ice

44:36

up here, there

44:38

are very good spots along ley lines,

44:40

just like there are in Central America

44:42

in the hot climates. But when

44:44

the – after

44:47

cataclysms and things change, you get

44:49

some people who want to stay

44:51

in their native place. But most

44:53

of them will venture to somewhere

44:56

warmer. I just don't

44:58

know why you'd want to stay in the snow. It's

45:00

because you have no knowledge of what –

45:03

you think the whole planet's like that. You've

45:05

got it, right? And it

45:07

melts a bit in the summer, but it's always snow. You

45:09

have to – the whole planet is ice. No, I –

45:12

Or you'd move. I don't know. Or

45:14

you're saying to honor your

45:16

relatives. That's right. You know what

45:18

I'm saying? And it's harder and harder to

45:21

get people to stay to honor because it's

45:23

fucking freezing. So you end up with a

45:25

much smaller group of devotees who are –

45:27

No, but it's a good question. Like, what

45:29

makes home home? Like, we get

45:32

attached to bullshit,

45:35

which makes – you know, like when you're

45:37

like, oh, I miss home, it's usually just – It's

45:39

food and shelter. No, it's not – no,

45:41

it's like, what's the word I'm looking for? It's like superfluous

45:43

stuff. It's like, you know, oh, I miss – like, yes,

45:45

you miss your family and your friends. And

45:48

I'm saying history is what makes home, to answer

45:50

your question. Sure, fine. So if you're an

45:52

Inuit – Yeah. I'm just saying,

45:54

okay, if you're an Inuit and your people 10,000

45:56

years ago had pyramids – that

46:00

weren't buried beneath the ice in... I

46:04

think it's going back to the pyramids.

46:06

Oh, I'm just saying, or whatever it

46:08

is, some giant structure that your ancestors

46:10

built to honor your homeland on

46:13

a ley line because it's there because

46:15

it's a massive energy source. You

46:19

might wanna stay in that place to honor your

46:21

people. And even though

46:23

you can't get to that pyramid anymore, there

46:26

are still some diehards who are like, there

46:28

is power that comes from this piece of

46:30

land and we're

46:32

gonna stay here and we're gonna keep fucking

46:34

living here, waiting for the day when that

46:36

fucking... Keep our pyramids. And

46:38

we get to go back to our,

46:41

you know, I don't know. I'm just, otherwise

46:43

I'm with you, Kumar. Why on fucking earth

46:45

would you stay there? If you're an Inuit,

46:48

why do you not just migrate a little

46:50

bit down? I'm

46:53

not saying you have to go to California. Because

46:55

they don't think there's any place to go. I

46:57

don't believe that at all. You're insinuating that fucking

46:59

Inuit people are stupid. No, but you forget that

47:01

it could be. You don't think that

47:04

they have origin stories of

47:08

like anywhere past four

47:10

miles away from their house? No, but I think it would

47:12

be a little bit further than that. I think you're forgetting

47:14

too though, that like if you're hunkered down, if the people

47:16

you're... So let's say you're born,

47:18

okay? Your family's Inuit, you're born way

47:20

up north. They

47:23

have a skill set that they teach you

47:25

that's very specific to that area. So

47:28

like it might be very difficult

47:30

for you to migrate you know,

47:32

2000 kilometers south, where all

47:35

of a sudden now you have to hunt a different

47:37

set of animals. I would

47:39

be very interested to talk to an

47:41

elder Inuit person. Any

47:44

elder indigenous

47:46

person from around the world, that's what I was trying to say.

47:49

There's a lot out there that is just... I

47:53

don't know if they've all been marginalized, but like

47:55

the abuse that we did to ours, along

47:59

the way like making deals. to fuck them over

48:01

than the trying to take away from the

48:03

family. Well, they've definitely been marginalized by us

48:06

as like North America. And we know that

48:08

in America, they just killed them all. Well,

48:11

the same way they did up here. Well, here there's

48:13

sort of an idea that we made a deal with

48:15

them. It was,

48:17

it was, it was a mutual, it worked out. It

48:20

wasn't just a slaughter takeover, but it

48:23

was sort of genocide in that. Oh, ours was.

48:25

We just, damn it. We just, but Americans actually

48:27

just killed them all. I get it. Yeah. I

48:29

mean, the Oklahoma land grab, if you've ever looked

48:31

into it as fucking wild, but we,

48:33

I mean, we just blanketed it with, no

48:36

pun intended, with treaties that we broke

48:39

left, right and center. That's the deal.

48:41

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. And then

48:43

even Cortez was the one who took

48:45

out the Aztecs. Like this isn't an

48:47

isolated thing. But when you look at

48:49

our history, like Rockefeller

48:52

history, the Aztecs, the

48:56

Mayans, these were all bloodthirsty savages,

48:58

just like our own native. That's

49:00

the narrative. The story is the

49:03

same fucking everywhere, man. Anywhere that's

49:05

not us white people,

49:08

not white people, but us, you know,

49:10

um, European.

49:14

It is ironic because we are

49:16

bloodthirsty savages. Yeah. The

49:19

worst of them. Especially you, you filthy

49:22

Jew. We pollute more. Uh,

49:24

I'm not, I'm not even white. They

49:27

hit the moon with a rocket and

49:29

white. Uh, I said that with that

49:31

kind of venom for you. White boy,

49:33

white boy, Matt. That's

49:35

what I'm going to call you from now on. Sorry.

49:40

What come our rocket moon? They shut a rocket into

49:42

the moon. And yeah, that's smart. Apparently

49:46

it rang like a bell for three

49:48

days. Have you ever heard that? No.

49:52

That's interesting though. Well, we've always heard that the

49:54

moon is hollow. Has not always been. No,

49:57

no. Was it post-sulka?

50:00

was Pasulka, Aion Rogan, who was talking about

50:02

the astronauts hearing that music in outer

50:04

space. You'll have to read the book,

50:06

Joe. That one? No. I think

50:08

so. Pasulka was just on. She was

50:10

the religious scholar,

50:13

alien lady. Oh yeah,

50:15

her. You were talking about the lady who said

50:17

that Russia and the Cold War was the whole

50:19

alien thing. Get the sultry voice. That's

50:22

actually really interesting stuff because

50:25

that's... Save

50:27

it for the trivia. They

50:29

seem to both support Elon.

50:31

Okay. I wasn't sure, but it kind

50:33

of seemed like Kat was taking underhand shots

50:35

at... Yeah. Kat kept being like our

50:38

little friend over there doing the Tassaun monkeys.

50:40

You're not sure. I don't think... Joe

50:43

kind of distanced himself too where he

50:45

was like, yeah, this guy is doing

50:47

crazy stuff over there, huh? Putting implants

50:49

and monkeys and... Well, it is interesting,

50:51

right? Joe pouts Elon's fucking... Sucks his

50:53

dick till the cows come in.

50:56

Whoa. And you

50:58

saw that stat that they've killed like

51:00

1400 monkeys already just trying to

51:03

do... I just made that 1400. You

51:05

know the old saying, you got to

51:07

crack a few monkey skulls if you want to. I

51:10

started it. Yeah. You know? Yeah, you

51:12

have to break a few monkey skulls to make it

51:14

all more. But like,

51:16

nobody talks about that shit. All

51:19

this monkey killing. Well,

51:21

let me ask you just the hypothetical,

51:24

you don't care? What are you going to

51:26

say? If

51:29

at the end, neurolink couldn't cure all

51:31

sorts of incurable diseases, people can walk

51:33

again, all that sort of shit, how

51:36

many monkeys is it worth frying up? I say

51:38

test them on convicts. So

51:42

human trials on people who

51:44

are going to death. Okay. Except

51:47

the ones that are there wrongly accused. What do you call that? Death

51:50

row. Death row. No, Kamar, like we said,

51:52

you got to break a few monkey skulls to make an

51:54

omelet. I'm sure we did say that. We mentioned the monkey

51:56

skulls a few moments ago. Were you

51:59

not listening? I mean, Matt's self

52:01

evident, Matt. Of course he wasn't listening.

52:03

It wasn't him talking. Yeah. Camar,

52:07

I like the, I kind of like that because

52:09

you could say you could, it's the best. You

52:11

could be like, listen, you're on death row. We

52:15

can hook up to this thing and you can

52:17

be like on a beach all day. It

52:20

might not end up that way, but- Did

52:22

we mention the break a few monkeys skull?

52:24

Yeah. We

52:27

have to put something in your anus. Yeah. You're

52:30

going to be shitting Zinn for a month,

52:32

but- What about you just volunteers? If

52:35

there's people who say they want to go to Mars, they're

52:37

so as, yeah, I'll hug me up.

52:40

Oh, you're right, for sure. Maybe

52:42

that's the fucking thing they don't want you

52:44

to know is that if you swallow one

52:46

Zinn, you shit out four. Oh

52:48

yeah, that's how they get Zinn. That's

52:50

how it's- It's like Oompa Loompa Mine.

52:54

Yeah, that's how it started, yeah. Tiny little

52:56

children in Russia, shitting out- They just don't

52:58

want you to know that's the dirty Zinn

53:01

secret. Kind of like that cat coffee, the

53:04

coffee and the cat shit. They're

53:07

like, that's why the first flavor was coffee and

53:09

only coffee. If you knew where your Zinn came

53:11

from, you would never eat one again. Or you

53:13

would love it. Be

53:15

a smaller sect of people. Still

53:17

very popular, but smaller. Oh,

53:20

I miss monkey piss. Oh. No,

53:27

coconut jizz, that's it. Coconut

53:29

jizz? Remember Robert California? Remember

53:32

they start, so the guys in the warehouse

53:34

win the lottery and then they go and

53:36

they start an energy drink. Yeah, for gay

53:38

people. Yeah, and he's like, yeah, we had

53:41

two flavors and he's

53:43

like, one is coconut piss, or that's a

53:45

coconut piss. And

53:48

he's like, don't drink it. And he takes a sip and he's like,

53:50

oh, it's light on the coconut. No,

53:54

but then later on, like 15 episodes

53:56

later, Robert California takes a sip of one and

53:58

he goes. I don't know why they

54:00

got rid of original. Anyway,

54:04

sorry, Kumar. Coconut piss.

54:08

He was talking about just constant

54:10

scripture and stories, and there was

54:12

one where, I guess

54:14

the sheep was

54:17

the best. And

54:19

at a time, the sheep will turn to the

54:21

goat. Oh yeah, I get it. Yeah. That

54:24

was interesting. Which could just be reverse engineered to

54:26

work out, but sounds super cool again. There's

54:29

almost echoes of Jordan Peterson in him, and

54:32

how Jordan Peterson is religious, but seems to

54:34

be level-headed in deciphering

54:36

what they said in the Bible and scripture

54:38

and stuff. But as he said, there's the

54:40

emerald tablets, there's so many other books. The

54:44

book of Enoch. I'm

54:47

just picturing Jordan Peterson doing Cat

54:49

Williams stand up. It's

54:52

called Death. And it was so

54:54

weird where he's like, yeah, I can't do Cat Williams'

54:56

voice, but they tried to keep the black man out

54:58

of the Bible. He's like, you

55:00

know, the book of Enoch, Joe. No,

55:03

I'm pretty sure all the Bible is about

55:05

black people. Everybody down there was dark-skinned. Yeah,

55:07

not a white person in the Bible. Do

55:09

they mention any colour in the Bibles? No.

55:11

Well, I'm pretty sure in the

55:13

St. John, no, the, what's

55:16

the newest one, the St. James Bible, they refer to Jesus as

55:18

white, and

55:22

then they make all their effigies in white. Like, I think

55:24

it's at that point where this

55:26

whole, they whitewash the whole thing, you know, but

55:28

what do I know? What do I

55:30

know? And he kept talking about

55:32

how there's patterns in design because he

55:34

obviously believes in God. And the best

55:36

one is, and it's totally

55:38

Cat Williams, is that as food goes bad,

55:41

it gets better. Well,

55:43

that is interesting. It was super interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

55:45

But wait, just, we'll come back to that food for

55:47

in a sec. Let's just go back to the goat

55:49

for a sec, okay? Because as he was

55:51

saying that, so then you have Baphomet, right? Yeah. Who's

55:54

the goat God? Yeah. Transgender. All...

55:58

Transgender. So that's what he said. all

56:00

mixed in with the devil. And

56:04

then you hear the stories about, um,

56:06

uh, about

56:08

the garden of Eden and

56:10

how the snake was actually knowledge, not,

56:13

and they flipped the whole script around

56:15

to make it seem like the snake

56:18

was the bad guy and the, and,

56:20

um, and now they

56:22

have the eagle as the good guy and the

56:24

snake is the bad guy, but really it's reversed.

56:27

I mean, that just seems like another Rockefeller

56:30

whitewash on history. You know what I'm

56:32

saying? And now we think the snake

56:34

is bad and we think the, um,

56:36

what was Kat talking about? No, no,

56:38

not the eagle. Kat was talking about,

56:40

uh, oh, the goat, just

56:43

all these, um,

56:45

important, uh, idols

56:47

or whatever you want to call them. And

56:51

our history of it in the

56:53

last hundred years is totally wrong just

56:55

based on like a, a

56:58

spin that's, that's somebody, I don't want to

57:00

name any names Rockefeller wanted to put on

57:02

it. You know, I want to

57:04

name any names. Well,

57:08

that's your outcome. Um, and

57:10

then you start, sorry. And then you

57:12

start like Oppenheimer, um, uh, Einstein

57:17

who it turns out as a fraud.

57:20

Um, just all these guys and

57:22

all this history we know is

57:24

a total fucking scam. It's

57:27

a farce. It's a goddamn farce. It really

57:29

is a farce. All these people that we,

57:31

and all these stories that we've been told,

57:34

um, Napoleon was only five

57:36

foot. He was a little pussy. You know,

57:38

he was a normal size guy who wasn't

57:43

a pussy at all. No, I'm just saying

57:45

like, Napoleon was a five foot pussy. Every,

57:48

everything they tell us is

57:50

not necessarily a lie, but

57:53

like definitely warp to fit

57:56

their, their, their story better. You

57:58

know? Oh,

58:00

that's great. No,

58:05

you're right. Yeah, man. Rockefeller's. And then every

58:07

year that goes by, you know,

58:09

not every year, but when I was a

58:12

kid, Napoleon was

58:14

a five foot pussy and 40 years

58:16

later, which really isn't that much

58:19

time. He's

58:21

fucking Joe Quinn Phoenix. You know what I mean?

58:23

Like fucking

58:26

Joe Quinn Phoenix. Next

58:30

thing you know, this guy's fucking Joe Quinn Phoenix.

58:32

He's a normal sized guy. Back to our whole,

58:34

How do we know that? Back to

58:36

our whole, what's it called? Um, Christopher

58:39

Columbus, you know, like for

58:41

our whole life, that was the guy. He was

58:43

amazing. He, and in the past 10 years

58:45

we find out, no, this, that was a lie

58:47

too. You know, you're right. We

58:50

won't be alive to see most of

58:52

this stuff because

58:57

a hundred years just isn't enough time. But

59:00

if you live 200 years, now

59:02

you start to really see through the, you start

59:04

to feel back hurt. And maybe that's why we

59:06

can only live a hundred years. Cause if they

59:08

let us live the amount of time we were

59:10

supposed to live, you'd start

59:12

to see all the shams. They can't

59:14

hide things over a hundred years. They

59:16

can't hide things more than like two

59:18

generations. You know, no, I'm being serious

59:21

here. I'm not shaking my head. Totally.

59:23

That totally makes sense. So let's put

59:25

phthalates into everything. Let's make sure people

59:28

get hooked on things that are going

59:30

to kill them. Like phonics. Well,

59:33

phonics is a huge problem. I was

59:35

thinking more like tobacco or drugs or

59:37

whatever. Let's

59:39

make sure that everybody dies long before

59:41

let's ban all the things that could

59:44

keep them alive, the stem

59:46

cells, the this, the that, all the things Joe

59:48

Rogan wants to do, but has to go to

59:50

Panama to do them. Imagine that was the

59:52

case. It's all to make sure

59:54

that we can't see two generations or three generations. Generations

1:00:00

from now and then

1:00:02

we have to trust history, right? And we

1:00:04

know that they fuck history up But if

1:00:06

you could go and talk to your great

1:00:08

great grandmother and ask her how shit really was

1:00:10

you'd probably get the real story Dude, I

1:00:12

just busted something wide open here man Come

1:00:15

on. How much more you got if before

1:00:19

like back to Oppenheimer How

1:00:23

would people say if the world

1:00:25

could be ending What

1:00:27

do you mean? I like I remember for sure

1:00:29

in the 80s It

1:00:31

was Russia America. These were like a

1:00:34

the whole world could blow up.

1:00:36

Yeah before Oppenheimer What

1:00:40

was the shear thing what's the what's the

1:00:42

biggest consequence it was war? Oh, no, it

1:00:44

would have been religious people that the Exactly

1:00:48

that that would be the the end of the world would

1:00:50

be that Cuz I think people have

1:00:52

always said the end of the world

1:00:55

or things are gonna get bad I was working

1:00:57

some guy who's like 50 years old. No, he's

1:00:59

old in that he's old like wait, I'm 50

1:01:01

He's like, I can't believe

1:01:03

I have grandchildren. They're not gonna see it

1:01:05

in the world But I think this is

1:01:07

a constant thing because especially once you get

1:01:10

older and you don't understand The

1:01:12

pop culture the social media everything you everyone

1:01:14

always thinks oh, we're doomed And

1:01:17

it's just it's just a cycle in the paradox of

1:01:19

life that you never get to know you were wrong

1:01:22

and it's Keith's keeps chucking and things get

1:01:24

better and every time people like This

1:01:27

you know when a remote control Everyone's

1:01:30

gonna give it fat or whatever What

1:01:32

was the food thing? The

1:01:34

food thing was just as it gets bad. It

1:01:36

gets better. I think about so

1:01:38

what was he saying about this? No, he

1:01:40

was like milk goes bad milk goes bad.

1:01:42

It becomes cheese. Yeah, great grapes go bad.

1:01:44

They become raisins He was saying,

1:01:46

you know that you go bad and you

1:01:49

must become something better the potato goes bad.

1:01:51

It makes vodka. Yeah Yeah, you know everything

1:01:53

goes bad and become good because even mold

1:01:55

is good, right in in an abundance It

1:01:57

depends in an abundance that you don't need

1:01:59

any thing but we decided to

1:02:01

commercialize it somewhere online and he also said

1:02:03

that sorry in an abundance that you don't

1:02:05

need anything what does that mean no

1:02:08

he was saying we have so much shit

1:02:10

that stuff went bad and through that stuff

1:02:12

going bad but that's not really what it

1:02:14

was I mean we had no refrigeration forever

1:02:17

some booze is a happy mistake booze

1:02:20

is definitely having mistake booze came along like

1:02:22

a month thousands of years I would imagine

1:02:25

most of those things are just happy miss

1:02:27

yes you leave your milk out too long

1:02:29

and you end up with cheese you leave

1:02:31

the grapes out and you end up with

1:02:33

raisins or they were also designed to be

1:02:35

found but lots of things go bad and

1:02:37

then they're no good fish yeah you

1:02:39

know so I'm a fish you can dry it on salt no

1:02:43

but I'm saying not every yes

1:02:46

take a correct not every fruit you leave

1:02:48

out all fruit could be alcohol all

1:02:50

fruit can be alcohol interesting that's

1:02:53

true interesting also even then Simon

1:02:55

like if you Sun dry most fruits

1:02:57

you know it's true that's true just

1:02:59

two things

1:03:04

he said the Smurfs was designed

1:03:06

to break up the family to

1:03:09

give the idea of kids of people

1:03:12

not something not having a parent yeah

1:03:14

okay I haven't looked into it I

1:03:17

am all for conspiracies that one's

1:03:19

crazy that one is just so

1:03:22

silly why the Smurfs the Smurfs

1:03:24

never I watched it

1:03:26

avidly I'm a Smurf aficionado I had

1:03:29

no point did I ever like think to

1:03:31

myself these guys are so lucky they don't

1:03:34

have parents they had he was

1:03:36

the parent yeah and so Papa Smurf are

1:03:38

probably the government and what did he say

1:03:40

Smurf? Smurf

1:03:46

fat so that's like

1:03:48

a god type thing to me right

1:03:51

like the Smurfs are would be like what

1:03:54

do you call that microcosm of religion

1:03:56

I could see that but

1:03:58

I don't get the no parent Thing is

1:04:01

just the weird thing that like the family unit.

1:04:03

I now I'm gonna sound like Nazi

1:04:06

or whatever has eroded The

1:04:10

family unit has eroded I don't know if

1:04:13

I fully agree with that all your friends

1:04:15

have multiple brothers and sisters Okay,

1:04:17

everyone does okay now people are

1:04:19

just have one kid People

1:04:22

are people are still having big families,

1:04:24

but it's not common. It was common

1:04:27

I will calm and calm and so much

1:04:29

more expensive to raise your children Wait,

1:04:32

so does you rich it's not? Man,

1:04:35

but you'll see rich people usually have big

1:04:37

family poor people probably have more family It

1:04:39

doesn't matter to have a kid you figure

1:04:42

it out. Most people figure it out I

1:04:44

think it's just I think it's slipped It

1:04:46

used to be that poor people had all the children

1:04:49

and now it's rich people have all the children I

1:04:51

think it's still no one's having children is a point.

1:04:53

There's a big problem in South Korea Yes,

1:04:57

and Japan. There's a lot of countries. They're

1:04:59

disappearing Wait, the whole point at the end the day

1:05:01

of us is to I

1:05:03

like to he said it's the alternate creator If

1:05:06

you want to be creator create another person and

1:05:08

that's creating that's it's it's it's a

1:05:10

thing to do It's

1:05:13

the one thing that is the one creation that

1:05:15

like when you make art you make art the

1:05:17

way you want it It's the

1:05:19

one creation where you don't have a choice of

1:05:22

how it turns. Yeah, no control. Yeah, it is

1:05:24

intro. Yeah It's like you put it in the

1:05:26

oven and hope is that the ultimate form of

1:05:28

creation to me? It's not the ultimate form of

1:05:30

creation is like you're able to

1:05:32

make it the way you want if you could

1:05:34

make your child And I do you want it?

1:05:37

That's the ultimate form of creation No, cuz what

1:05:39

he's saying is that you like listen no matter

1:05:41

what you make on this earth not

1:05:43

sorry, that's not true Whatever

1:05:46

you make art wise is never gonna It's

1:05:49

probably not gonna change the world. You could have a kid

1:05:51

that creates Well, that's not

1:05:53

true Matt if you're a really good artist you could

1:05:56

make art that changes the world, you know and

1:06:00

And who's to say that like if not like

1:06:02

if your kid created the cure for cancer if

1:06:04

you're gonna change the world If

1:06:07

your arts never gonna do that if

1:06:09

you're an amazing artist, yeah He's

1:06:14

sitting down That's

1:06:17

okay, don't worry about it, but if you have

1:06:19

a mainstream media that's telling you Everyday

1:06:22

panicking that also is another reason why say

1:06:24

well, I'm not gonna have a kid It's

1:06:27

all these little things but it's always been

1:06:29

like that come on like think about the

1:06:31

Cold War Those were always reasons for people

1:06:33

not to have kids and yet people kept

1:06:35

having kids. No, I don't think so Because

1:06:39

I think it's also combined

1:06:41

with like the feminist movement That

1:06:44

changed the family unit too that that was like the

1:06:46

first well birth control probably changed

1:06:48

the family. Those are one of the one Like

1:06:51

as soon as you had the ability Sorry,

1:06:54

these are the same. No, it's all about my

1:06:56

birth control. It's all about money tomorrow No, they

1:06:58

have a nice birth. Oh, I see. No, it's

1:07:00

all about money Listen after

1:07:03

World War two and then by birth control the

1:07:05

pill during World War two women went to work

1:07:07

because there were no men Mm-hmm. And

1:07:09

then when they came when the men came back the women wanted

1:07:11

to stay at work and then everything

1:07:13

got super expensive So you had to have two

1:07:15

incomes if you wanted to have multiple kids unless

1:07:18

you were a baseball player Yeah, like look my

1:07:20

grandparents. They had six kids. My grandmother stayed at

1:07:22

home and Raised

1:07:24

the six kids and my grandfather worked and

1:07:26

that worked. I don't know that works anymore

1:07:28

I don't know because you need both parents

1:07:30

working to afford a mortgage assistive has made

1:07:32

it Yeah, but I don't know that that

1:07:34

kills the family fucking like dude. I'll give

1:07:36

you a weird This is a weird anecdotal

1:07:38

fucking the guy that put the windows in

1:07:40

here. I Remember he

1:07:42

was like, yeah, I'm trying to rush to finish this

1:07:45

because if I finish it today, I'll take

1:07:47

tomorrow off Which is Friday. I want to take my kids to the

1:07:49

lake and I was like, oh, it's nice How many kids you haven't

1:07:51

he was like I have six Now

1:07:53

again, this guy just anecdotal evidence, but like

1:07:55

this guy just puts in windows. He's a window I'm

1:07:57

sure he makes great money, but it's good

1:08:00

Six kids like I don't think the family unit is

1:08:02

it's not like it used to be but we also

1:08:04

our parents used to beat The shit out of us

1:08:07

We'll get to that in the next one But

1:08:10

there can't be anything better than having

1:08:12

a grandchild. That just must

1:08:14

be an amazing feeling Well,

1:08:18

no, it's your creation creation yeah, that is

1:08:20

pretty cool. It's just gotta it's just gotta

1:08:22

be a cool. Yeah, I'm feeling and If

1:08:25

you have six kids, you know two of them

1:08:27

are gonna be fucking delinquents one of them's gonna

1:08:29

be a whatever whatever they are One

1:08:32

day you have six like friends and adults And

1:08:36

you can't your kid and you can't just

1:08:38

fax track that if you had a billion

1:08:40

dollars like oh I want to have four

1:08:42

kids that like it's just it's a different

1:08:45

path experience Which I feel has been discouraged

1:08:47

where it should still be like a main

1:08:49

goal for most people which

1:08:54

Going to making people it's so stupid Just

1:08:57

think they think about you

1:08:59

think one day they're gonna breed people or something

1:09:02

how long we've been breeding dogs Like

1:09:04

all that science and stuff has got to be just

1:09:06

able to switch over to

1:09:09

breed people Oh

1:09:13

The knowledge the knowledge they're not really

1:09:15

eugenics and the knowledge that they've

1:09:18

acquired breeding dogs

1:09:20

cloning dogs has

1:09:22

got to be a Foundation. It's

1:09:24

why everyone is step of Breeding

1:09:27

people and modify. Yeah, what we do is

1:09:30

we start a fire you and me Matt.

1:09:32

He keeps coming close We give him table

1:09:34

scraps. Yeah next thing you know, he's trainable

1:09:38

Come on they did this in Sweden. It's called eugenics

1:09:40

and that's why everyone there is beautiful Selective

1:09:44

breeding and this always should not be such

1:09:46

a stretch then to have computer chips in

1:09:48

the brain and whatever It is all this

1:09:51

that's the one thing I

1:09:53

took away from cat he he wasn't like things

1:09:55

have to be stopped He's like it's all as

1:09:58

it was foretold. That seems like a What?

1:10:01

The brain chips. You see, breeding

1:10:03

dogs, there's no

1:10:05

magic there. You

1:10:11

know what I mean? They

1:10:13

weren't fucking super smart people

1:10:15

who were doing that. It

1:10:19

was just they bred dogs because

1:10:21

they learned how to do it and did it probably

1:10:24

out in necessity. But who were they dumb

1:10:26

people that cloned the sheep? Are

1:10:28

they dumb people that cloned dogs now? No. So.

1:10:33

So. So. So.

1:10:35

It's not as just to say someone somewhere

1:10:37

knows how to clone a person. Mm-hmm.

1:10:41

Yeah, but what does that even... Well, we can't spend too much time on this.

1:10:44

We gotta wrap this up. That was it?

1:10:46

Okay. I give it a three.

1:10:49

It could have been a five. It should have been a

1:10:51

five. It can't get more than a three for me. I'll

1:10:53

give it a three and a half, but I can totally

1:10:55

understand why. Well, it hit all your... Listen, if they had

1:10:57

talked about a shitload of stuff that I was super interested

1:11:00

in... If they had spent the whole time talking about fighting,

1:11:02

I would have given it a one. Oh, yeah. You

1:11:04

know what I'm saying? It just happened to

1:11:07

be something I was interested in. But if

1:11:09

I'm there to hear about Cat Williams, I'm

1:11:11

enraged. Yeah. Yeah. As

1:11:13

I was. I'd give it a four. And

1:11:16

there was no cancer culture. There was no

1:11:18

COVID. There was no war in Ukraine. There

1:11:20

was none of that stuff. Yep. Amazing.

1:11:23

If it was anyone but Cat Williams. Well, no. And

1:11:26

the status was very interesting as well. They're

1:11:29

both the same height. There was no

1:11:31

cat happy to be there, overwhelmed like

1:11:34

he had a presence and Joe fell in

1:11:37

love with him. No, it all

1:11:39

felt very odd to me. Yeah, we got to move on.

1:11:41

You can give this woman 20 minutes. Because you just want

1:11:43

goss and deets. 2109, Abigail Shrier. Yes,

1:11:48

that's what I want, Kumar. That's why I listen

1:11:50

to everything I listen to and watch. Everything I

1:11:52

watch is for deets and

1:11:54

goss. Gender

1:11:59

affirming care. This

1:12:02

is what he does. Yeah, I know. Is

1:12:05

another one of those

1:12:07

like dressing up, you

1:12:10

know, like collateral damage.

1:12:15

Are you just saying hot button words now? Gender

1:12:17

affirming care is what it's called. What? That's

1:12:20

what they're fighting for. That's cutting off a

1:12:22

penis or whatever. Like a sex change. Just

1:12:24

call it what it is. Gender affirming care

1:12:26

makes it seem like

1:12:28

it's a compassionate procedure

1:12:31

that it just

1:12:33

it sounds positive. Yeah. And

1:12:35

it is neither negative or positive. Okay.

1:12:39

That just makes something suspect. And they dress it

1:12:41

up like that. If it didn't be planned, parenthood

1:12:43

is abortions. But you don't get that from that

1:12:45

name. You know what I mean? It's

1:12:48

to whitewash it. It's to candy coat it, whatever

1:12:50

you want to call it. If it didn't become

1:12:52

such a trend. Yeah.

1:12:57

Is gender reassignment surgery bad? Like we

1:12:59

all agree that there are some people

1:13:01

who really truly feel like they're born

1:13:03

in the... No, we don't care.

1:13:06

We just care about it for children. Okay. I

1:13:08

think that's the issue. We don't care what adults do. So you're living in a

1:13:10

free country. If you want to cut your dick off once you're 18, go nuts,

1:13:12

please. And we'll pay for it. Last

1:13:14

time, last time she was on,

1:13:16

she was talking about so

1:13:19

many girls... Clicking

1:13:22

up. Clicking and changing over is

1:13:24

more about the gender thing. This

1:13:27

one wasn't about gender. It was just about

1:13:29

therapy and whether we're

1:13:31

over-therapized. Yeah. She

1:13:34

found a new windmill to rage against. Did you

1:13:36

guys ever go to therapy? I've

1:13:39

been to a psychiatrist. I went and I

1:13:41

always felt like I was just trying to

1:13:43

smart the guy. Well my

1:13:45

problem was I went as a kid and

1:13:47

I lied to them. I'm just going to

1:13:49

say. If you're lying to your psychiatrist, what

1:13:52

is the point? You're

1:13:54

wasting your time and their time. And

1:13:56

whoever's paying for it. But that was the whole

1:13:58

thing. It was my parents who sent me. I

1:14:00

didn't want to go there if I went to

1:14:03

a therapist now It would be because I wanted

1:14:05

to go and I your heart earned money and

1:14:07

I would tell them the truth well, I wouldn't

1:14:09

I would go to a psychologist so that the

1:14:11

Government paid for it. It's just the psychiatrist they

1:14:13

won't pay for which is so fucking crazy The

1:14:16

guy who can dispense the drugs to you

1:14:18

Yeah, the government won't cover but the

1:14:20

one who will just talk to you the government will

1:14:23

cover and it's not free health care all of a

1:14:25

Sudden that's the other weird thing No,

1:14:28

I that's the biggest problem with therapy is like how How

1:14:33

like you have to be the one who's willing

1:14:35

to be open and change or else none of

1:14:37

it matters Like if you're just gonna go in

1:14:39

there to do the work Yeah if you're just

1:14:41

gonna go in there and bullshit the person and

1:14:43

even if you just to just to double down

1:14:46

on your thing even If you are going there

1:14:48

and you want to be helped the

1:14:51

second you tell one lie The

1:14:54

therapist doesn't know that yeah So they're just

1:14:56

they just gotta take you out your word

1:14:58

and that could change everything that one lie

1:15:01

Yeah, even though you're telling the truth about

1:15:03

everything else. Yeah, it's a very tough thing

1:15:05

Like it really is even if you're cuz

1:15:07

I'm saying you could be lying to yourself

1:15:09

Matt, of course Yeah, if you go in

1:15:11

there and You know

1:15:13

deep down inside Matt I mean this is

1:15:16

pretty close to home He's gay

1:15:18

and he doesn't tell anybody and then he's

1:15:20

in there lying to the therapist about being

1:15:22

gay But telling the truth about everything

1:15:24

else The

1:15:27

rape so this to that, you know Been

1:15:32

gay rape so many times. I know come on

1:15:35

just looking. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I can't well cuz

1:15:37

you know He's not listening to you because he's

1:15:39

nodding and the other problem was that Like

1:15:42

like the people who work on homelessness don't want to

1:15:44

get rid of homelessness because they get rid of the

1:15:46

job therapists would have like

1:15:49

living off their patients So

1:15:51

They would They there is it. There is

1:15:54

a possibility that they could just keep doing

1:15:56

it and not to detriment. But For no

1:15:58

reason do you really believe? Leave that

1:16:00

the people who are working to end homelessness

1:16:02

and don't want to end homelessness cause they're

1:16:04

gonna lose their job. Know. I've said

1:16:07

this a million times. I don't believe that for

1:16:09

a second I said this to I've I settled

1:16:11

the it did they be fail at their job

1:16:13

to get more money. I don't believe that Simon

1:16:15

I said this before. Think about it if you

1:16:17

if they hired you tomorrow to fix the homeless

1:16:19

problem in San Francisco and in a year you'd

1:16:21

get it. Do Not think you're going to get

1:16:23

a job and every other city fixing the homeless

1:16:25

from a Do Not think you're going to have

1:16:27

or forget even the homeless problem. Matt Let's say

1:16:29

they hire you to end. Racism. Yeah

1:16:31

okay that's your job your the racism is

1:16:33

are you go in there and in two

1:16:35

years you and racism do not think they're

1:16:37

then gonna say hey when are you talked

1:16:39

on of them sound like vs on like

1:16:41

nothing to do with racism but you've proven

1:16:44

yourself to be a really good work at

1:16:46

Slate. I just I don't buy. I don't

1:16:48

buy that. I would I. you know that

1:16:50

guy marked as brown talked about that But

1:16:52

I don't buy it. If you fix homelessness

1:16:54

in San Francisco, you would immediately become. A

1:16:57

member of congress. They. Would

1:16:59

vote you in unanimously is just around the

1:17:01

can be. And now I'm not saying that

1:17:03

I'm just maintained and as I'm not saying

1:17:05

that there aren't people who milk their job,

1:17:08

the I'm saying the most. People who are

1:17:10

working to end homelessness are probably good people

1:17:12

who are trying to end homelessness. That's what

1:17:14

I'm getting, as are you hope? I'm

1:17:17

not playing cards. There could be a system

1:17:19

in place that makes ending homelessness difficult whereas

1:17:22

these people are still trying or impossible Shirt

1:17:24

and I. I can dig that. and that's

1:17:26

the system that set up that way to

1:17:28

always be able to pay that money and

1:17:30

that's different. Yeah, That's. Different than Legs

1:17:32

Joe. Shmoe going to work and like I'm

1:17:34

is gonna play video games all day because I

1:17:37

gotta make sure that nobody gets homes today. Yeah,

1:17:39

but just because you're fighting an uphill battle

1:17:41

doesn't mean you're not fighting and. What?

1:17:44

about presumed not wanting we'd be

1:17:47

legalized boundary getting people know that

1:17:49

that's different of whoa hold on

1:17:51

that's a perfect example that's the

1:17:53

prison guards union that doesn't mean

1:17:56

that everybody who works in the

1:17:58

correctional facility doesn't want make people

1:18:00

better. Yeah, that's true too. Yeah,

1:18:03

the union is trying to protect jobs. That's

1:18:05

the union's job, isn't it? Kind

1:18:07

of like the, um, kind

1:18:10

of like the shareholders. Yes. Yeah.

1:18:12

Well, it's not impossible that

1:18:14

a therapist could talk to someone and say, oh, you're

1:18:16

fine, but you still talk to them. And

1:18:18

they almost take advantage of the thing. Oh, come

1:18:20

on. There are definitely crooked therapists out there. There's

1:18:23

no doubt about that. Well, she mentioned there was

1:18:25

a therapist that got her patient to kill her

1:18:27

fucking life. Joe mentioned that. I

1:18:29

think she was aware of it anyway. So

1:18:32

Joe, that's crazy. That is again, that yes,

1:18:34

it's totally crazy, but you get

1:18:36

teachers who convince their students to kill

1:18:39

their husband. That shit happens. Positions of

1:18:41

power use power. You know, it's

1:18:43

hilarious. That's what they do. Is he strikes

1:18:45

me as the kind of person that if

1:18:48

his fucking psychiatrist is like super hot and

1:18:50

sultry would totally kill her husband. I

1:18:52

could believe that. He's talking about you. I

1:18:55

am. Who's

1:18:58

not listening? Um,

1:19:03

there was no, it's strange

1:19:06

that there's no warnings about social media

1:19:08

and stuff, but everything else

1:19:10

that we, um, make

1:19:13

sure like it always bugs

1:19:15

you on a show. It says this may contain

1:19:18

smoking. Just that's a warning in

1:19:20

itself, but all the social

1:19:22

media is somewhat detrimental. Children's

1:19:24

mental health is declining. You know, what's

1:19:27

interesting, Kumar, is that's the only warning

1:19:29

that I actually like cursing

1:19:32

in a movie has never made me leave the movie

1:19:35

and be like, Oh, I go curse, but

1:19:37

when you see someone smoke a cigarette in a movie,

1:19:39

you're like, God. Damn it. I want

1:19:41

a cigarette to this day. Not anymore. You

1:19:45

mean, you mean he leans over. No,

1:19:49

I, I, yeah. I think

1:19:51

that, I don't know. Yeah.

1:19:54

Or no, you're right. There's warnings on everything yet. We should

1:19:56

also tax the social media company because they're a detriment to

1:19:59

our health as your. Mentioning we've been through

1:20:01

this a million times. I've raged about

1:20:03

this a million times like Nobody

1:20:07

is is monitoring these fucking

1:20:11

Social media companies not only that they're

1:20:13

touting them. I wasn't even going

1:20:15

that far. I just say warning like well

1:20:18

Public it PSAs about

1:20:20

social media warning and mark warning is the

1:20:22

first step and then from warning you get

1:20:24

like Now you

1:20:27

can't sell cigarettes they have to be behind

1:20:29

you can't see the cigarette pack Maybe

1:20:31

social media should be the same thing if they

1:20:34

can't advertise social media and the dead body on

1:20:36

the cigarette pack doesn't stop From smoking and that's

1:20:38

the point of a warning. It's not actual but

1:20:40

you're wrong do anything I'm wrong. Well, yeah Just

1:20:43

if you look at the numbers of if you

1:20:45

look at the numbers of people that smoke now

1:20:47

versus 10 versus 20 versus 30 years Ago,

1:20:50

it's gone down substantially. So in a way You're

1:20:53

actually wrong. It has because most

1:20:55

people are using own it Could he pulls the

1:20:57

cigarette out of his pack with a dead person

1:20:59

smoking? It's not stopping him from smoking I'm sure

1:21:01

over time. Yeah, it makes it less popular But

1:21:04

it's well perfect. So they should be doing

1:21:06

that with social media We and it won't

1:21:09

happen in the next five years But 15

1:21:11

years from now instead of us

1:21:14

all being mindless automatons with fucking

1:21:16

chips in our head will be

1:21:18

normal people who watch Social

1:21:21

media with a warning we agree. I Mean

1:21:24

the problem listen, I know social media is a completely

1:21:26

different beast but like, you know, we grew

1:21:28

up in the 90s pre social media and Every

1:21:32

time a kid like took his own life. They

1:21:34

would always point to music You

1:21:37

remember that you remember that period in the 90s where like

1:21:39

a kid would die and they like this I mean listen

1:21:42

to a lot of Marilyn Manson or he listened to a

1:21:44

lot of our bottom My point point my point was that

1:21:46

throughout history if you look back over the last 50 60

1:21:48

years They've always

1:21:50

like anytime a kid has died They've always

1:21:52

tried to scapegoat something and I understand that

1:21:54

social media is a completely different beast. Well,

1:21:56

I was gonna say every

1:21:59

other time Matt they were

1:22:01

hyping up something that No

1:22:06

I know I said it's I understand different, but I'm

1:22:08

just saying there there We

1:22:11

also do this thing where like you know and I

1:22:13

know the kids aren't alright But like we always grew

1:22:15

up and like oh the kids the kids the kids

1:22:17

and we grew up fine by

1:22:20

and large Because

1:22:22

I was there was a lot last of

1:22:25

the latchkey kids Probably yes,

1:22:27

listen there's a water I don't think it's how

1:22:30

we think is fine as we define it's fine

1:22:32

Who knows what for finer so it's more fine,

1:22:34

but no, but it is because like these kids

1:22:36

listen when she was talking about like Them

1:22:39

having menu anxiety like

1:22:41

I dude I see this shit out

1:22:43

in the world like I see This

1:22:45

week at trivia. There was a group of kids in

1:22:47

the back There was two separate groups all of them

1:22:49

young one group was super woke through the other group

1:22:51

I don't think I don't think any of these six

1:22:53

kids had ten words to each other all night And

1:22:56

I was there on their phones not even on

1:22:58

their phones. They all just looked they all looked

1:23:00

very nervous They all looked like no one wanted

1:23:02

to say anything to offend anyone and like I

1:23:04

said the other table was super woke This girl

1:23:06

kept making comments about like woke shit, and so

1:23:09

These kids are like well I don't want to offend her and

1:23:12

we don't offend it I don't know it's it's

1:23:14

not a good way to grow up like we grew up where

1:23:16

you could say whatever the fuck you Wanted in fact if

1:23:19

a friend of yours wasn't breaking your balls constantly. They

1:23:21

probably weren't a great friend of yours like I Can

1:23:24

say whatever I want to Simon,

1:23:26

and he's probably not gonna be that offended He's

1:23:28

probably not gonna storm out of here like I

1:23:30

called him a filthy Jew twice last week He

1:23:33

sat here and laughed you know what I mean be like But

1:23:44

you get my point like you're supposed to like

1:23:46

it's like she was mentioning like when you when you grow up

1:23:49

Like family is a good example like dude

1:23:52

my family There's no one that's

1:23:54

quicker to break your balls than my family. I grew

1:23:56

up in that shit There was no nothing was off

1:23:58

limits like if you fucked up Everyone was going to

1:24:00

mention it. Everyone was going to ride you for it for

1:24:03

years and years. That's,

1:24:05

I don't know, it just creates a thicker skin. These

1:24:07

kids are fucking afraid of everything. Matt's

1:24:09

mom still introduces him as toilet

1:24:11

boy. There you go. Um,

1:24:14

and she brings it

1:24:16

back to blame at all to something that we used to

1:24:18

lament is like, uh, everyone gets a

1:24:20

trophy. The elimination of,

1:24:23

um, Canada

1:24:25

fitness, all these things that

1:24:28

were, were esteemed competitive, that

1:24:30

isolate people that slowly sort

1:24:32

of went away to be a

1:24:34

more supportive society and it's actually seemed to

1:24:36

be detrimental. Like Brett was talking about

1:24:39

his kid. Like I

1:24:41

said, when he's a bit older, he can roll with me, but

1:24:44

you see these parents wanting their kids to get in

1:24:46

trouble. Like

1:24:48

go break a window or something. Like

1:24:51

do something to, cause they feel so,

1:24:53

um, I

1:24:55

don't even know how to describe it because it's not my son, but he just

1:24:57

wants him to be like, and a

1:25:00

friend of ours, uh, went

1:25:02

away when we all get in trouble for like

1:25:04

10 days, I think called, um, uh,

1:25:08

outer limits or something. It was just going canoeing

1:25:10

in the woods with a bunch of kids, maybe

1:25:12

one counselor outward bound. That was

1:25:14

hard. Yeah. But that sort of experience,

1:25:16

the rape camp, is that what you're talking about?

1:25:19

Rape camp, good to let them go get raped

1:25:21

and deal with it. And

1:25:23

don't talk about with therapists because some things are better

1:25:25

left unsaid. Yeah. I mean, you gotta

1:25:27

lie about some things. He got to take the grain

1:25:29

of salt, but the we've. I

1:25:32

haven't. Cause I do listen, I have my,

1:25:34

my, my brother, my half brother on my

1:25:36

mom's side is 10 years younger

1:25:39

than me, exactly 10 years younger than me. So,

1:25:41

which means he was born in 93 dude. He,

1:25:44

and he's a socially awkward one. You're

1:25:46

talking about. Yeah. Pretty sure he's

1:25:48

never gotten laid. Yeah. Like as

1:25:50

never, like he lived, he lived away from my mom.

1:25:52

So keep in mind, this kid's 31 now. He's

1:25:55

lived away from home. He lived

1:25:57

away from home for like maybe eight months. when

1:26:00

he went to Algonquin and they made him live on

1:26:04

campus. But like, yeah, and

1:26:06

I mean, dude, he, I

1:26:09

feel bad for the kid, but he just, he's had no experiences.

1:26:11

Like he's 31. And that was

1:26:13

a normal, he had a normal upbringing. Yeah.

1:26:17

Like COVID fucked these kids up so

1:26:19

bad. Kids who were in

1:26:21

school for the, well, missing two years

1:26:23

of school. In the most matter of years

1:26:26

of your life. Years those are, that

1:26:28

fucking sucks, man. That is

1:26:31

a huge part of, like,

1:26:33

I think, I mean, my

1:26:35

son's not normal, but

1:26:37

the thing that fucked him up the most

1:26:39

in school was missing those two years, a

1:26:42

hundred percent. Because they

1:26:44

come out to go now to university and

1:26:46

they haven't even done the two most important

1:26:48

years of high school. Oh yeah, I guess

1:26:50

it doesn't matter what year it is. Anyways,

1:26:53

well it does. It makes a difference depending on

1:26:55

where you're at, and

1:26:58

losing those two years. And there's that

1:27:00

weird thing where there's something positive

1:27:02

about them that we don't have. What's

1:27:04

that? I haven't found it

1:27:07

yet. I don't know. I'm sure there's something, because I

1:27:09

remember my brother's 12 years younger than me. And

1:27:11

for sure there was a period where I couldn't

1:27:14

talk to him. It

1:27:17

was just awkward conversation. And then I

1:27:20

think we really turned 20 or something. I

1:27:22

spent time together, we got to know each other, but it was always just,

1:27:27

surprised when he used words and

1:27:29

stuff. When kids say

1:27:31

cool words, the raises going around and stuff,

1:27:33

it's so, is there one

1:27:35

kid dealing cool words to say,

1:27:37

or is it all just from songs? How

1:27:40

it circulates to be vernacular and

1:27:42

dies. Because I don't

1:27:44

know, it'd be groovy or tubular

1:27:47

or rad. Yeah,

1:27:50

stuff comes and goes. Sayings comes and goes and somebody

1:27:52

doesn't come back. And now, the one that seems here

1:27:54

to stay is let's go. Because that's

1:27:56

just untouchable. She

1:28:00

says there's an issue with therapists

1:28:02

being overwhelming towards conversions. Like

1:28:05

if a kid comes in and says something, it isn't like,

1:28:07

well, are you sure? It's like, okay, great. Good

1:28:10

thing you're here. Here's the path

1:28:12

we go. Where it shouldn't be like that. Someone

1:28:14

was showing a woman who said, my eldest

1:28:17

and my youngest are transgender. I said, what

1:28:19

are the odds of that? Zero.

1:28:21

And it is very, very... Unless

1:28:24

it's passed on through genetics. If

1:28:28

that is... I'm curious. Maybe that's something we

1:28:30

don't understand yet. Yeah. You know

1:28:32

what I mean? That's an if. We don't know.

1:28:35

Gender dysphoria is more common in men and she doesn't believe

1:28:37

in PTSD. No, she does believe

1:28:39

in PTSD. No, she does not. She

1:28:42

was saying it was a thing that like, it's almost

1:28:44

a contagion. She said sometimes

1:28:46

that was the case. I don't think... She

1:28:49

definitely said PTSD is a thing, but

1:28:51

a lot of people will think that

1:28:53

they get PTSD and come back. I

1:28:56

think her point was she believes in it, but she

1:28:58

doesn't believe it should be something that we talk about

1:29:00

or mention because she was saying like, you know, Israeli

1:29:02

soldiers, for example, versus American soldiers when

1:29:05

they come back. I can't remember

1:29:07

what the difference was. Well, I mean, I feel that's

1:29:09

different too, because if everybody

1:29:11

in your country goes to war,

1:29:14

is in the military, you're just, you're

1:29:16

bred differently than... We're all in

1:29:19

this together. Well, I

1:29:21

don't know. The people who are choosing to

1:29:23

go to the military, I think just... I

1:29:25

don't know. That doesn't make sense. I

1:29:28

think what she said is only a

1:29:30

percentage of people in the war actually

1:29:32

fought, but more had PTSD.

1:29:35

We just see there might be a contagion. But like

1:29:37

saying the kings of the air, whatever that is, you

1:29:40

know, the guy gets trapped underneath in the plane. The

1:29:42

guy tries to save him and he can't, so he

1:29:44

dies. You think that guy would

1:29:47

have PTSD from that or something? Yes, I would

1:29:49

agree. Yeah. If you watch your friend get his

1:29:51

limbs blown off. But I mean, at the same

1:29:53

time, you could just be a

1:29:55

guy and your whole platoon gets killed. You

1:29:57

weren't out with them. You would then also

1:29:59

appear... You know what I mean? There's something trauma.

1:30:01

I don't think you can diminish

1:30:04

somebody's trauma, depending on how close

1:30:06

they were to the accident.

1:30:09

You know what I mean? Because it's their trauma. Uh,

1:30:12

Joe suggests you debate a therapist and I think that

1:30:14

that'd be all right to be interesting. But the pushback,

1:30:17

I think this should be your last time ever on

1:30:19

the podcast. That's just me. Um,

1:30:21

no, that's what we're done. We're done. Yeah.

1:30:24

We're done. Joe says he did not know sugar

1:30:26

cereal was bad for him. I

1:30:29

know. I didn't know sugar cereal was bad for you. We were

1:30:31

tired of it. Everyone knew it was bad for you. How

1:30:34

did you not know that starting your day off

1:30:37

with a fucking blue heinous amount of sugar was

1:30:40

like just, it was breakfast cereal. Right. It

1:30:42

wasn't like eating candy. You know what that

1:30:44

was. That was the, this

1:30:47

kid's a little kid knowing that sugar is bad

1:30:49

for you. Fuck you. Oh,

1:30:52

show fire. My stepfather was a dentist. So I

1:30:54

told his bad for me. Okay. Well, but

1:30:57

you could tell it wasn't you could tell his junk food.

1:31:02

I mean, it was breakfast. Did you eat sugar cereal?

1:31:04

Fuck yeah. I didn't know. I never,

1:31:06

I never had sugar. So the

1:31:08

closest thing to sugar. So to me was

1:31:10

life. That felt like we were

1:31:12

having a party. I loved life. I

1:31:14

love life. And I'm sure it had

1:31:16

the most sugar in it. Cinnamon toast,

1:31:18

crunch, frosted flakes, honey, nut, I never

1:31:20

ate any of those caps of crunch.

1:31:22

I wondered what those children were like.

1:31:24

Let's back up. We had a lot

1:31:27

of like honey, nut Cheerios, sugar cereals,

1:31:29

but weren't toted as

1:31:31

such. My mom would buy like six boxes

1:31:33

of cereal. She'd buy like six boxes of

1:31:35

cereal. And the next day, three of them

1:31:37

would be dusted. Like I'd, I'd, I'd eat

1:31:39

like four bowls of cereal at night. Before cocoa

1:31:42

puffs. Like I didn't like cocoa puffs.

1:31:44

No, I hated it. I never had the option to

1:31:46

just like any of these cereals because I didn't get

1:31:48

them. Cause we knew they were bad for you. But

1:31:50

one of my favorite things to do was to take

1:31:52

like shreddies or special K

1:31:54

or anything that didn't have sugar on

1:31:57

them. Or sugar all over. No, no,

1:31:59

quick. I'm going to

1:32:01

milk. I turned it into my own chocolate. Oh,

1:32:03

I hate it's actually really good try it now

1:32:05

I'm done. Yeah, what do you like chocolate milk?

1:32:08

Mmm? I guess yeah, do you like

1:32:10

cereal? This is a no-brainer. I haven't

1:32:13

had cereal in years. That was one of the

1:32:15

biggest game You haven't had cereal in years years.

1:32:17

I eat probably a decade 10

1:32:19

bowls of cereal a week I Hate

1:32:23

milk there was a period it's

1:32:25

only gonna cereal you you only knew quick We

1:32:28

mean as a syrup. I didn't use

1:32:30

sir. No, we didn't powder Yeah, but that

1:32:33

that was that syrup was like a fuck.

1:32:35

That was a rich person That's a change

1:32:37

of the the if you went

1:32:39

to somebody's house and they had strawberry syrup You

1:32:41

knew their parents were millionaires. That was a paradigm

1:32:43

shift What the powder to

1:32:45

the syrup the powder to the syrup because it was

1:32:47

impossible To actually mix all

1:32:50

the powder all the way because the powder was like

1:32:52

that is my grandmother You put it after it would

1:32:54

mix if you put it on it would clump up

1:32:56

My grandmother taught me the perfect way to make make

1:32:58

a little slurry at the bottom first put a little

1:33:01

bit of milk in You mix it

1:33:03

all together. It becomes the liquid. Yeah,

1:33:05

and then you slowly add the milk

1:33:07

in as you stir Yeah, again,

1:33:09

that's too much work. No, it's the ritual.

1:33:11

It's gonna be handed down by generations. Yes

1:33:14

Okay, I give this one a two the healthy

1:33:16

bird leaves the nest. I give it a three and

1:33:18

a half I Give

1:33:21

it a two point two five. I

1:33:24

just don't feel like there was anything really new for her to

1:33:26

I don't know She's got her

1:33:28

interesting thing better book for the most part. It was

1:33:30

just I mean, we already agreed with her It's like

1:33:32

we're all in agreement. So whatever so she mean is

1:33:35

bad for us. Yeah All

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on, can we get

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2110 Fahim Anwar. Fourth time. Is

1:35:28

that four times too many? No,

1:35:31

no, he's gonna ask a question. Go ahead,

1:35:33

ask it. Did you ever

1:35:35

develop photographs?

1:35:38

No. They were talking about putting,

1:35:42

I don't know how they do it on metal or

1:35:44

something. With photographs you have to, you just have

1:35:48

film in the camera and

1:35:50

then you'd flash light on it through

1:35:52

the lens and then you'd be burned

1:35:54

into the film and you have to go to a

1:35:56

dark room and add chemicals

1:35:59

to it. Yeah, and that takes away

1:36:01

everything that wasn't burned by the light. Yeah,

1:36:03

and that makes the negative okay,

1:36:06

and then you have to put the negative

1:36:08

in a light that shoots down on a

1:36:12

Piece of paper that has whatever chemicals on

1:36:14

it I have no idea and you do the

1:36:16

exact same thing and then you said it

1:36:18

I took photography Did

1:36:20

you and I believe no

1:36:22

a military school interesting again? Yeah,

1:36:25

but that was like a total Kodak

1:36:27

was a huge company I

1:36:30

think they still are I don't think they're like

1:36:32

Fuji film like they were what do you think? Making

1:36:35

them don't make film Digital

1:36:38

cameras they still make film I'm telling you I

1:36:40

know they're not as big a company for sure

1:36:42

but but they just used to be Commercials

1:36:47

all the time for cameras and they're still

1:36:49

like the the rebels

1:36:51

or the the high-end SLR or

1:36:53

whatever Those are now

1:36:55

being made here. Yeah now it's mirrorless is

1:36:57

now the thing They used to be such

1:36:59

a big industry film and camera. They make

1:37:02

most of their money selling mark camera They're

1:37:04

still a fucking huge industry. They sell most

1:37:06

of their film to the film industry Yeah,

1:37:10

it's changed. I'm just telling you how

1:37:12

they're selling so much film. Yeah still

1:37:14

a big industry, but digital film industry

1:37:16

Yes, that's a massive in movies. Yes.

1:37:18

I'm just saying it's not selling people

1:37:20

who are still using click-click cameras Yeah,

1:37:23

I realize that thank you. Yeah, I'm

1:37:25

well aware of that. They're still in

1:37:27

business, but They've pivoted

1:37:29

they had a bit of it because a

1:37:31

digital. Yeah, of course Yeah, but the camera

1:37:34

industry is still massive just so you know

1:37:36

that you kind of like shrug their camera

1:37:40

Camera industry. Yeah. Yes. I agree. But

1:37:42

but the personal camera used to there

1:37:44

was a thing called the Kodak disc

1:37:48

You're gonna get it with a Kodak disc, you know supposed to

1:37:50

this fast Shutter camera that had a

1:37:52

different films you can put more pictures on it

1:37:54

But you still have to take it get developed

1:37:56

but at the time it felt like crazy technology

1:37:58

that only rich people I imagine in that

1:38:00

little cameras like I'm sure people still use

1:38:02

the ones with the zooms and stuff but

1:38:04

just normal little cameras like why is anybody

1:38:06

bothering when your phone is as good as

1:38:08

the camera you're they're competing with it they

1:38:10

still make them they still make them but

1:38:12

it used to be Simon the thing

1:38:14

is most people don't print anything they take on their camera whereas

1:38:18

if you got like that's why most people still

1:38:20

but they still sell the disposable cameras because people

1:38:23

will you'll actually get those printed it's like it's

1:38:25

gonna force you you can't even see the work

1:38:27

you did unless you go and get it no

1:38:30

I don't yeah okay what

1:38:32

I'm saying is like most people the

1:38:35

reason that like people still buy the occasional

1:38:38

role of film or disposable cameras for what

1:38:40

I just said because you've never printed no

1:38:42

I'm saying why are people not those I

1:38:45

get why people buy those why are people

1:38:47

buying a small

1:38:49

digital camera when

1:38:52

your phone has a camera that is

1:38:55

small and digital you know what I'm

1:38:57

saying I mean there's certain

1:38:59

listen there's certain small digital cameras where

1:39:01

you still have a lot more control

1:39:03

over certain aspect there's certain things but

1:39:05

yes you're right for the most part

1:39:07

yeah part of the camera industry yes

1:39:09

I shifted yeah the big one yeah

1:39:11

the ones that are very powerful they

1:39:13

take glass yes anything that we're listen

1:39:16

the lens is the whole key to

1:39:18

photography so you could still

1:39:20

people still buy one of those cameras is

1:39:22

now digital but with a better camera than

1:39:24

even your phone yeah of course I'm just

1:39:27

saying the amount of people who are gonna

1:39:29

do that is very slim now when you're

1:39:31

agree you're already paying for you yeah I

1:39:33

agree listen the iPhone

1:39:35

16 pro max

1:39:37

like you could shoot a major motion picture on

1:39:40

that thing if you bought a gimbal like

1:39:43

you could buy it it has been done probably

1:39:46

yeah I'm just saying like what was it

1:39:48

there was a movie that's made with an

1:39:50

iPhone yeah it doesn't surprise me go

1:39:54

on that's prick

1:39:56

photography he gets and

1:39:58

then he called photography get stuck.

1:40:02

Well, no, I just have written

1:40:04

here how animals live without money,

1:40:06

just off the land about it. That's

1:40:12

the best thing you've ever said, man. But

1:40:14

then I thought, I would like to think

1:40:16

that raccoons are scavenging

1:40:18

garbage and then going to little raccoon

1:40:20

restaurants and get them all opened in

1:40:23

the air. Would that

1:40:25

be adorable? Yeah. So, you

1:40:27

have a dirty diaper, can you have the chef prepare it for me? Like

1:40:30

a catch and cook? I

1:40:33

like that a lot. Other than raccoons, most animals

1:40:35

just eat what they eat. I guess any animal

1:40:37

will eat garbage. And what do you think they

1:40:40

wash their food? Is that why you think they're

1:40:42

better than everybody else? I don't

1:40:44

know if raccoons are better. Well, squirrels are better.

1:40:46

No, no, but what do you think makes raccoons

1:40:48

different than another animal who's just finding his food

1:40:50

and eating it? That's what raccoons do. Because they

1:40:53

look like little people. They actually go and fucking

1:40:55

change it in for something else. I know, but

1:40:57

that's the funny part. No, I get it. Okay.

1:41:00

You know what? You've ruined it now.

1:41:02

Just raccoons are different. Like they're everywhere.

1:41:04

Yeah. In Ottawa, at least, at night.

1:41:06

Like, and they're big. And they have, and luckily

1:41:08

they have hands. Dude, I would domesticate a raccoon.

1:41:11

For sure. But it's an easier

1:41:13

life to be an animal. So, Fahim. It's

1:41:15

an easier life to be an animal? I

1:41:18

think so. Are you fucking nuts? What

1:41:20

are you talking about? You have to be worried about your life. No,

1:41:22

you're like 24-7. I think it's

1:41:24

a way harder life to be an animal. Yeah.

1:41:27

Well, no animals. Maybe

1:41:29

throw the mouse off the bridge because life is too

1:41:31

hard. Yeah. Okay. I

1:41:34

see your point. I wonder if like the deer

1:41:36

wake up in the morning and like, fuck another

1:41:38

day trying to outlive the wolves, you know? Motherfuckers.

1:41:41

I don't know. I mean, I imagine that

1:41:43

prey animals are constantly, listen, you're going to

1:41:45

bed. Everything's a-fearing for your

1:41:47

life and waking up fearing for your

1:41:49

life. They're not living their best life.

1:41:52

Like wolves probably live their best life. You

1:41:54

know what I'm saying? If you're a predator,

1:41:56

you're probably living your best life. I

1:41:58

Mean, it does suck. You know? Here's the

1:42:01

here it is. A

1:42:03

predator is like a commission

1:42:05

salesman. Has

1:42:07

a cushy job, drives the nice car,

1:42:09

but you gotta produce death if you're

1:42:11

not producing. yeah, you am Now and

1:42:14

then, The prey is like the automaton

1:42:16

that goes into work every day. Plugs,

1:42:19

In L A temp a letter and I can be

1:42:21

taken out at any time now. I.

1:42:24

Like that. And

1:42:27

like when you make a point and then

1:42:29

you say to yourself into a sister hundred

1:42:31

simon some rate of only about Syria Take

1:42:33

an oath. Or

1:42:37

else he got command. He was shadow banned

1:42:39

for saying i'm. And

1:42:42

he told a story about as easy

1:42:44

one haven't their salaries you may be.

1:42:46

I'm gonna visit. and how did he.

1:42:50