Joe is very good. He comes into the shows prepared and obviously researches topics to discuss on the air ahead of time. He's a good speaker and drives the show with interesting and engaging takes and opinions. Ron on the other hand appparently just shows up and wings it everyday. He has nothing valuable to add to the discussion, repeats himself, mispronounces names, clearly does no research or preparation before a show. His takes are boring and non committal. A good example of this: One topic of discussion was a rumor about a long tenured AFC coach was possibly going to step down at the end of the 2022 season. Joe thew out the possiblity of it being Mike Tomlin. Ron's response: "I doubt it, but maybe." Ron has talked about how Myron Cope retired after someone told him he had lost his edge and it was time. Will someone please have this talk with Ron too? He may still be effective as a newpaper columnist, but he shouldn't be on the radio anymore. I give Joe 5 stars, Ron maybe half a star.