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this edition of Skeptical Sunday toothpaste

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two or three times every day for most of your life,

1:16

you use toothpaste, but what is in

1:18

it is it? Actually good for you, and why

1:20

is there is scary label on the back warning you

1:22

not to swallow it, I mean, if the supposed to put it in my

1:24

mouth, right? comedian In fact, checker David

1:26

C. Small, he is here, David, what is going

1:29

on with our toothpaste because frankly

1:32

blindly trust the stuff and have for decades

1:34

as do most. Of us, think a, you

1:36

know, those weirdos only use some sort of like gross

1:39

organic vegan toothpaste made

1:41

out of like bamboo oil and tastes like sadness,

1:43

yeah, so he. Had the ones where you use

1:45

it and then you're like, okay, want to brush my teeth with real to

1:48

phase now to make them feel going right, you

1:50

gotta you. Gotta brush your teeth after yeah,

1:52

so think we're going to make

1:54

a few more of those weirdos today, maybe

1:56

mm here's where everybody needs to do everyone. You

1:58

know, unless you're in traffic.

2:00

Grab! Your toothpaste let's follow along and this

2:02

one because I hope promise you there's

2:04

probably a warning label on the back and the

2:06

warning labels gonna say something along the lines.

2:08

Of if swallowed or if accidentally

2:10

swallowed, get medical help or contact

2:13

of poison control centre right away,

2:15

now him, why would that be the case for

2:17

something literally designed to go? In your mouth

2:19

few times day, yeah, I'm assuming it's the

2:21

fluoride, but who knows what else isn't that right,

2:24

oh yeah, and that we're going to get into that? But you're exactly

2:26

right, according to the American Dental Association

2:29

of Fluoride, can strengthen teeth

2:31

and reduce the risk of cavities, which is why it's

2:33

into space and it's also why over. Seventy

2:35

percent tap water in the United States

2:37

contains fluoride, okay,

2:39

so if it's dangerous to swallow, there's

2:42

probably only trace amounts and the tap water you

2:44

would hope so, but. Who knows I'm guessing

2:46

that's the case everywhere except like Florida,

2:49

which would explain all the news says, but I think

2:51

the National Institute of Health says that the

2:53

elevated. amounts of fluoride leads to

2:55

a bone disease called skeletal fluorosis

2:58

i can also lead a white spots on the teeth,

3:00

pitted enamel tooth decay and

3:02

it's associated with certain cancers

3:05

it. Can harm children whose teeth are still developing

3:08

and it can even suppress your immune system.

3:10

Then. National Library of Medicine did a study on

3:13

fluoride in pregnancy with six

3:15

hundred patients in found that excess fluoride

3:17

exposure can cause adverse pregnancy

3:19

outcomes and negative

3:22

health effects on both. The mother and

3:24

the fetus, so it we do need

3:26

to pay attention to our or fluoride intake,

3:28

it's little ironic that fluoride can cause

3:31

all these problems with your. teeth and bones

3:33

like it that whole reason, as I get really want, that

3:35

positive effect would too much lead to a negative effect,

3:37

white spots and your teeth is funny, right? Because I'm

3:40

trying to whiten all of the tooth is actually

3:42

thank you I'll take white spot preferably that

3:44

covers old and how.

3:46

much fluoride are we talking about that's bad for you

3:48

that like that mega dose that's why the warnings

3:51

there and you definitely really definitely really

3:53

life do not want to swallow your to face

3:55

The limit deemed safe by apparently

3:57

random standards is one milligram.

4:00

Or? Leader in your tap water, but your

4:02

toothpaste has a concentration that's about one thousand

4:04

times that safe limit, so out

4:06

every time your breath seduced Villa go to those fire

4:09

breeders. Who takes field in their mouths, sloshing,

4:11

get around and everything okay, so it's

4:13

why do you say random standards, I mean, am see

4:16

him, it's like this is as? The A or is some

4:18

regulation fluoride amount that we ingest,

4:20

yeah, you'd think so Jordan with

4:22

something on the books called the nineteen seventy

4:25

four safe drinking water act it. Sounds

4:27

like they took care of that right that acts

4:30

technically gave regulatory oversight

4:32

of public drinking water to the A. P. A. but

4:34

the ft a very own website says

4:36

and. I'm quoting the decision to fluoridated

4:39

water supply is made by state or local

4:41

municipalities and is not mandated

4:44

or regulated by the He be or

4:46

any other federal entity

4:48

so. In the act, the clean water,

4:50

as they say, the federal government is responsible

4:53

for the safety of drinking water, but then they're like

4:55

okay state and local governments just add add.

4:58

as much fluoride is you want without any oversight

5:00

whatsoever bingo yeah but let's

5:03

be clear i think come on and destroy drinking

5:05

water for people on another are skeptical

5:07

sunday of soda the voucher just know that your

5:09

rinsing that fluoride out of your mouth

5:12

with more fluoride okay so

5:14

doubt were doing an entire episode on to taste

5:16

if the take away as hey don't swallow it like

5:18

okay it's as another package what else is going on

5:20

yes the biggest issue is mysterious

5:23

ingredients or if you're still holding your toothpaste

5:26

at home like am and i'm not going to

5:28

share the brand name because welp your lawyer

5:30

your get it to my mind says active

5:33

ingredient stand as fluoride

5:35

under other information right next to that it

5:37

says products containing status

5:39

fluoride may produce surface staining

5:41

of the teeth first of all stanislaw

5:44

read sounds like it's character from game of thrones

5:46

but success or brushing our teeth

5:48

with products that can cause teeth stains

5:50

that makes absolutely no sense at all just and

5:53

levels of fluoride deemed toxic

5:55

have swallowed and that's all

5:57

they tell us about it it's like some sort of medical

5:59

ointment

6:00

No. Other ingredients are typically listed on

6:02

to place, it just says active ingredient

6:04

like it would on some sort of your topical

6:06

ointment, it doesn't tell you all the ingredients I.

6:09

Don't get okay, so we're putting these things in our mouths every

6:11

single day twice if you're actually taken

6:13

Gary idea, how did they get away with not

6:15

listing the ingredients with? The hell yeah it

6:17

took me a bit to find out why they were able

6:19

to do this but. almost

6:21

all manufacturers add things to their toothpaste

6:24

like whitening or brighton or

6:26

brighten your smile or something having

6:28

to do with the way you look so that it'll be listed

6:31

as cosmetic products and

6:33

once it's listed as cosmetic they don't have

6:35

to disclose ingredients

6:37

And. If they pretend to be medical

6:39

or injectable in some way than they'd,

6:42

they'd have to show the ingredients, but as

6:44

long as it's considered cosmetic, they only have to show.

6:46

The active ingredient, yeah, that's kind of terrifying,

6:48

so it's not even about asshole to with health, it's

6:50

about looking good and that's it that's kind of their technicality,

6:53

their little loophole. Where the like we can put anything

6:55

in here because it's not a food or drug,

6:58

it's just cosmetics, yeah, exactly,

7:00

and I went to a major toothpaste brain

7:02

website. To see if they at least listed ingredients

7:05

online and to my surprise there was

7:07

an actual wink at the bottom called ingredients

7:09

over and I was like, "Oh, cool, was" hopeful for

7:12

about ten seconds with clicked, it didn't just send

7:14

you a video of like Rick Astley, like never gonna give

7:16

you have never been magnitude an

7:18

absent might. As well as I read it, it

7:20

takes you to a page that shows

7:23

common to based ingredients like

7:25

in general in general, just here's what

7:27

people happened to put it's

7:29

and. Then it goes, let's find the right product for

7:31

you, and they go remedy your to answer

7:33

questions and click things completely distracting

7:36

from whatever is in there and according to federal. Laws

7:38

they don't have to tell us what's in the toothpaste

7:40

that kind of mafia like, go be careful, you

7:42

wouldn't want someone to slip and fall and get hurt that

7:44

could. Be an accident, you gotta have some safety around

7:47

here once I am, guys the and a couple

7:49

really see what we can do for you and in other

7:51

assorted sounds. Like but for toothpaste ingredients

7:53

right oh okay so your eyes and we got to the

7:55

bottom of this in some way the up

7:57

by suited so I. said

8:00

Then. bunch of different ingredients, number of among the kind of break,

8:02

some of them down and talk about kind of the dangers and

8:04

something that sounds dangerous and art but

8:07

the" First ingredient I've found that was really alarming

8:09

is called try close and in twenty

8:11

sixteen ft a band try close

8:13

and from being and soaps because

8:15

exposure to high doses has. Been linked to health

8:17

issues like bacteria, resistance and hormone

8:19

issues and got health disruption,

8:22

but it's allowed into space oh

8:24

man and in one study try close

8:27

and even stayed in. The bristles of toothbrushes

8:29

for about two weeks after consumers

8:31

switch to non cycles and toothpastes,

8:34

the FTA's as of right now is not yet officially

8:36

banned it from toothpaste. But here's the kicker

8:39

on the FTC website, they say consumers

8:41

should strongly consider of avoiding

8:43

using toothpaste that use psychosis,

8:45

yet they won't force manufacturers to lose their great

8:48

and so. Actually, say don't use the saying, "How

8:50

do I know if it's in their well you won't, they won't

8:52

list the ingredients, so now most

8:54

brands assume are going to say?" They don't use it, but we

8:56

really don't know we really don't know, mean,

8:58

the summer making promises, so in

9:00

twenty seventeen time magazine, their

9:02

report on a study that was. showing how dangerous

9:05

try close and really is, and at

9:07

that time, Colgate was rumored

9:09

to use for close in it's toothpaste so

9:11

time", wrote to Colgate,

9:14

and they ask. them about the use of triclosan

9:16

and Colgate responded in time

9:19

posted the actual written response in the In

9:21

The Time magazine article, which is still available

9:23

online if you want. To go read it's here's

9:25

the quote from Colgate, responding

9:27

to Time magazine and twenty seventeen, they say quote

9:30

Colgate Total toothpaste is uniquely

9:32

formulated with point three percent of

9:34

the anti. bacterial ingredients for close

9:36

and to fight harmful plaque germs

9:39

that can cause ginger vitesse and

9:41

it is approved as effective and safe

9:43

by the U. S. F. D. A. regarding

9:45

This study, the authors state that they do

9:47

not consider oral exposure to try

9:49

close and toothpaste to be health

9:51

risk, and their study shows that try close

9:54

in that might. Be released from tooth

9:56

brush head is fraction of the standard

9:58

dose coming from single you.

10:00

A. Break cozy and containing to face and

10:02

far less than the three milligrams

10:04

established, as say, so

10:06

they do it admit to putting it in their rights

10:08

as like we're poisoning you. But it's not that

10:10

much poison so calm down bright

10:12

and the thing is they acted employees

10:15

of the was no big deal for two years later

10:17

twenty nineteen colgate been promised.

10:19

To stop using psychosis and

10:21

they do not lose their ingredients at all on

10:23

their website, they don't even say here's what's generally

10:25

into pace but funny enough

10:28

crest their biggest competitor. Has

10:30

a huge notice on their website touting

10:32

try close and free toothpaste, which I

10:34

find hilarious rights as like, "Hey, by the

10:36

way, the other guys they're trying to kill, yeah" But

10:38

we have to have enough that the pursuits

10:40

and as we now have another chemical in there that

10:42

we're not going to tell you what it is that right that's

10:45

not. The only harmful thing about it: there's a lot more

10:47

pages lunch and are notes here, just say,

10:49

yeah, so our to address

10:51

the sodium fluoride eyes has

10:53

it's own. Issues, but it's pretty much staple of

10:55

most mainstream to face, and lot of dentist

10:57

recommends using fluoride face to face with

11:00

his other ingredients called sodium,

11:02

laurel, sulfate and sometimes. Known as Sls

11:05

and, it's foaming egypt that

11:07

almost every brain have to face uses but it doesn't

11:09

actually doesn't anything to help clean your teeth it just

11:12

feels all foamy in there and you associate

11:14

that with clean and many

11:16

brands markets that product as natural

11:18

because it's made from made base of coconut

11:21

oil but there are more studies

11:23

that show can easily be contaminated

11:25

and become toxic to in the manufacturing process

11:27

so it's not really worth the risk and

11:29

it's not necessary doesn't really doesn't anything

11:31

except sort of sorts your mind into spewing

11:34

clean because of soap bubbles you know this

11:36

is interesting is that is one of my major gripes

11:38

with the all natural to faces and like it doesn't

11:40

feel clean because there's no fun

11:43

ride so it's something we expect to be into place

11:45

because it's always been there but it doesn't really help us spread

11:47

yet spread little off putting us on brushing my teeth

11:49

and there's no phone but there's little bit of slavery

11:52

oil and now i'm like okay like don't see that's

11:54

why i want to brush my teeth again right yeah

11:57

and i'd feel the same way and totally get

11:59

it would seem strange

12:00

Except. "Those weirdos have been out of the curve all

12:02

these years using that non foaming reagan

12:04

organic", said tasting cleansing jail, "but

12:07

we'd have you used to it if we want to" Make the changes in our lives,

12:09

so guess another thing as that it

12:11

causes that sort of smooth queen's

12:13

feel is something called polyethylene

12:16

glycol, which is a synthetic

12:18

polymer that used. To preserve

12:20

moisture in it's like thickening agent that helps

12:22

to pace from like running off your toothbrush,

12:24

we noticed the natural ones tend to be thinner

12:27

and kind of dripping. Around and the major

12:29

brands are like solid sick clump on

12:31

the on the toothbrush, yes, it's mostly because

12:33

of polyethylene glycol, but that

12:35

ingredient is also a primary ingredient

12:38

in. A in a freeze of hey that sounds

12:40

disgusting, but also I want to be as a

12:42

skeptic, there's also water

12:44

and things that can kill you or there's enough

12:46

there's A. Lots of things that are ingredients and other things would like,

12:49

you know, that this, whatever that thing where your kids like

12:51

margarine is one ingredient away from

12:53

plastic and it's like. Well, that's not surprising, but also

12:56

one is plastic in one is margarine because

12:58

one has that extra ingredient one doesn't right,

13:00

yeah, it is important to note that is awesome porn. To

13:02

think about the amounts because rivals are talking

13:04

about the older vaccines with aluminum,

13:07

they talk about aluminum, they're talking about ten trails

13:09

or whatever you can buy into most

13:11

vegetables. And have some trace elements of

13:14

aluminum in those that, troubles

13:16

with sounds dangerous to sounds poisonous it's naturally

13:18

occurring this stuff could

13:20

be that way but it's also

13:22

linked. To intercurrent disruption which

13:25

is what happens when chemical mimics

13:28

like unnatural hormones cause your body to over

13:30

react to stimulus read so. it

13:33

is alarming it depends on the amounts we've

13:35

been doing it for years it get it but

13:37

is when they're talking about they're ingredients we've got to be truthful

13:40

about what these things are and what they're doing

13:42

there are also this was the thing is made me

13:44

bring up this topic do not want to cover

13:46

toothpaste because of how much sweetener

13:49

isn't toothpaste and they don't use

13:51

sugar think the used to they don't use sugar anymore

13:53

the use saccharin in most

13:55

to pay for brushing her teeth were sugars over

13:58

dig that notion is the notion know

14:00

Then. I know, but it's it's,

14:02

secular is deemed safe, is super

14:04

sweet, and it doesn't give cavities, which

14:06

makes you wonder why we're not just making candy out of Saccharin.

14:09

For sure, there's some derivative that goes into, maybe

14:11

it does taste disgusting on it's own, yeah, maybe

14:13

so, but that's, you know, that again, that's another

14:16

skeptical Sunday's episode, yeah, I. Would love to

14:18

talk about things like, "You know, all the band

14:20

food and other crazy things that we seven

14:22

or our bodies, but to please also contains things

14:24

like" Gluten and alcohol and silica

14:27

for policy silica the thing on

14:29

those packages that are like and moisture suckers

14:31

and it's as do not eat and giant letters on it isn't

14:33

that? Right there with us yet, you have been that's

14:35

why, you know, was a small, it's another reasons like,

14:37

but basically everything into space

14:40

is not supposed to be swaddle, it's it's. It's

14:42

yeah, it's kind of crazy. The last

14:44

ingredient is Glycerol.

14:46

It's supposed to help keep your to face from drying

14:48

out which is kind of with the polyethylene

14:50

glycol does as. a thickening agent

14:52

as well but the problem goosen is that it leaves

14:55

a coating on your teeth so when you feel

14:57

smooth after brushing

14:59

it's not necessarily that you got rid of all

15:01

the plaque it could be this glycerol

15:04

encoding that is over your teeth

15:06

and there's this doctor or gerard

15:09

Who said we brush with things

15:11

like that? it 27, washes

15:13

to get, Glycerine off your teeth. Teeth

15:18

brush with any toothpaste at all, are

15:20

coated with a film and cannot properly

15:23

remineralize. And not only

15:25

does glycerin inhibit the natural process

15:27

of remineralization, but it's also

15:29

a magnet for plaque,

15:31

even if someone's died. It is

15:33

relatively healthy. The problem glycerin

15:35

based face, is it? They create

15:37

conditions for Accelerated

15:39

tooth decay. Now, again,

15:41

as skeptic I have to note that this

15:43

information comes from a doctor

15:45

who's working closely with this tooth

15:47

powder website guy claiming that the original

15:49

tooth powder that they sell of course,

15:51

is the only healthy way to brush. Your teeth tooth

15:54

powder was the predecessor of

15:57

toothpaste. We were that's

15:59

kind of whatever. Then. Use before the whole pace thing

16:01

came into existence and his company saying: "We

16:03

need to go back to that there is healthier,

16:05

it's few ingredients it's more natural is

16:07

going to. Taste like garbage, but they're

16:09

advocating for to powder as opposed to the pace

16:12

for these reasons.

16:13

It was actually fit for human consumption,

16:15

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mean now that I know everything else can kill you want.

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just think it's the cruel irony is that

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those commercials where people like their teeth

18:19

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and over it, which is going to accelerate

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it makes me angry that used to pays for

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mean the or doesn't. Get into the dentist and suffered

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and minute because minute did, did call a dentist,

18:41

I get so involved in this that this got a dentist

18:44

on the phone and. I'll tell you what he had to say about

18:46

as about second. but else line

18:48

did it compared you have you ever heard of tooth powder

18:50

before this my i feel like have but it looks

18:52

like something it's like

18:54

That's. Where in my mind that from the era where

18:56

they're like, have you tried cocaine drops for your to

18:58

take, you know, it's like that by go and

19:00

eleven metal the medicines? Then I just consider

19:03

it just comes at a metal can is no label

19:05

on it with your like, what's going on the register,

19:08

Roberta, your cheated your finger, and it's like. Perfect

19:10

I g every day.

19:14

So. Held: Why did a comparison of

19:16

powder vs paste with pros and cons,

19:19

and here's a basic summary of their findings,

19:21

okay, I kind of took a bunch of stuff that they?

19:23

blistered and charts, I just kind of made this

19:25

little paragraph for myself for today, so

19:28

the research indicates that powder is

19:30

more effective at removing stains

19:32

and plaque. There's a big

19:34

take away powder is more effective at removing

19:37

stains of black any. can be easily

19:39

made it home was just was couple of simple

19:41

ingredients you just need some cocaine and

19:43

some rock

19:46

Can someone to hold you down a disabled or

19:48

deceptive ld, down and

19:51

maybe piece of barks to bite into Iraq? but

19:55

they point out that no powder on the market

19:57

has cavity protection it's also

20:00

Been. awarded to eighty a seal of acceptance

20:02

by the American Dental Association if I learned

20:04

anything from home alone, it's that this toothbrush

20:06

and all that dental products have to be approved. By

20:08

the American Dental Association ride avic

20:10

that was the entire take away of home alone that

20:13

was the whole point was actually funded by the eighty

20:15

eight they may. i help you

20:17

The use fresh approved by American

20:19

Dental Association. I

20:22

don't know. It doesn't

20:24

say how. Can you please

20:26

find out?

20:34

No, so intimately doesn't taste very good and

20:37

not all manufacturers are transparent with

20:39

their ingredients, I mean that's kind

20:41

of a thing about every proud of.

20:43

toothpaste It's easy to use

20:45

many different to base have been awarded

20:48

a da Silva approval, it has cavity

20:50

protection, but most of them

20:52

in this was quote from helpline

20:55

this. A most toothpaste contain ingredients

20:57

that are areas of concern to many people

21:00

such as fluoride or other chemicals,

21:02

and they are also not transparent

21:04

with their ingredients are practices so the.

21:06

Only real way to know exactly what you're

21:09

brushing your teeth with his to get like

21:11

a basic ingredient list of

21:13

these plaque, removing powders

21:16

and make it at home yourself, that's. ridiculous

21:19

and I'm ascended that anybody would think I'm

21:21

tired of high Holmes", said Allen,

21:23

for goodness, or at so anytime

21:26

someone is this city with ingredients, there's

21:28

almost always. A class action lawsuit

21:31

or ten going on.

21:32

Right? Yes, oh, definitely, most of the class

21:34

action lawsuits have to do with major toothpaste companies

21:37

either withholding information, hiding

21:39

something or making something seems

21:41

safe when the safety of A. Product

21:43

either wasn't yet determined or isn't safe

21:46

at all, the most recent one that I found

21:48

is against Proctor and gamble the owners of Crest

21:50

claiming that they are

21:52

marketing the. SUITE: charcoal sad

21:54

as safe and effective without releasing

21:56

a potential harmful effects of charcoal and

21:59

protein. There's. Also been sued for

22:01

safety issues concerning charcoal,

22:03

this is the most recent cargo definitely trying

22:05

to right now, I guess he didn't juice, see

22:07

it and all kinds of different. Products that are

22:10

from supplements to yeah, guess toothpaste

22:12

is there any merit to the lawsuit is it actually

22:14

dangerous doesn't work, yeah, so in

22:16

twenty seventeen, an article in the. Journal of

22:19

the American Dental Association reported

22:21

the charcoal has been recognized as an abrasive

22:24

mineral to the teeth, and it's

22:26

inclusion in into preparations

22:28

raises concern about damage

22:30

to these types. Of oral structures like

22:32

duty.

22:33

As well as increasing tooth decay

22:35

susceptibility due to the potential loss

22:37

of enamel I'm so it doesn't appear to

22:39

be on the shortlist for professionals but

22:42

A. new york judge tossed

22:44

out that specific lawsuit citing

22:46

that the plaintiff contradicted our own testimony

22:49

and that she failed to show that she was directly

22:51

harmed by the product so it kinda seems like

22:53

a technicality like when he was false advertisement

22:56

but you know rather than doing than false advertisement she

22:58

did like an injury type like

23:00

law suit like suit was harmed by this and

23:02

this thought this was interesting to another reason to the

23:04

judge gave for throwing it out was that

23:06

the plaintiff wasn't worried about the product until

23:09

she heard about potential risks of charcoal

23:11

and the media which is kind of bizarre

23:13

thing to including ruling i mean if someone

23:15

yeah if someone's using something because they've been marketed

23:17

to and then they see a news reporter they

23:19

hear podcast like this and go hey wait minute maybe

23:21

the stuff isn't safe you know maybe directly

23:24

applying lawsuit may not be the best course

23:27

of action but to throw it out based on

23:29

her finding new information is really

23:31

ought to be yeah that's yeah little bit of weird thing

23:33

it's kind of like saying know you're supposed to wait until you have

23:35

mesothelioma in order to file lawsuit

23:37

you can't just say i am probably

23:39

undergo mean guess the truth is if there's

23:42

no damages then it's hard to

23:44

do a lawsuit is hard to file successful

23:46

lawsuit however still

23:48

the idea that this stuff this bad for you and

23:50

it's in the toothpaste yeah you're right maybe lawsuit

23:52

not maybe lawsuit isn't the way to go but certainly

23:55

there's people should be made aware of this product not

23:57

being good for you well there could be class-action

23:59

false

24:00

Advertising. lawsuits as your early in the ass,

24:02

the A. The. A. Flat Out says this of

24:04

is not good for teeth, yet tons

24:06

of toothpaste brands are marketing charcoal

24:08

and it's bowling. Up Oliver Instagram, like

24:10

thousands of people use of I know people personally who

24:12

use it every single day twice a day and

24:15

they just have no idea so I'm sending them. My researches

24:17

I'm doing this going, you may want to stop using

24:19

Target. Instagram. Models are blowing

24:21

your ID seems that all the advertisements on this

24:23

and all the people usually influencers it's funny

24:25

people dmv on social media, but I don't

24:28

use that seed at. All cannot say, scrolling

24:30

through it, so know there are

24:32

influencers do, and as cause see influencers

24:35

schilling literally just

24:37

about anything, even if it's horrendous

24:39

for you and. Your new you're missing out of some of them

24:41

like a woman with big booty and black to make

24:43

you want to rip out your credit card here are

24:45

some so. Another reason lawsuit

24:47

claims that the proctor and.

24:49

gamble have their toothpaste listed

24:52

toothpaste clinically proven to help reverse

24:54

ginger vitesse and that's and

24:56

interesting way to word that because the lawsuit

24:58

says according to the medical journals and the ft

25:00

that product like that can only control

25:03

reduce or present ginger virus

25:05

and early forms of gum disease as opposed

25:07

to reversing and repairing the condition

25:10

and condition also notes that the ft has not improved

25:12

any over the counter oral care products for

25:15

repairing gum damage including gum

25:17

damage caused by gender bias because

25:19

once gums recede due to ginger

25:21

vitesse are other issues it's typically

25:24

because of bone loss and gum

25:26

tissue cannot just grow back it's

25:28

usually lot more drastic than that so any claim stating

25:31

that stating single product can reverse tinge

25:33

of isis is false advertising now that's

25:35

the that's the claim for the lawsuit and as

25:37

far as i know that lawsuit is still pending so once you

25:39

have zingy vitesse as is no hope he

25:42

can take out your teeth yeah so that's

25:44

what was thinking from reading that reading in a

25:46

diving deeper into that but i was getting

25:48

conflicting information conflicting it because it was finding something

25:51

that said ginger virus is somewhat reversible and

25:53

gum disease is reversible so unlikable

25:55

is it can be reversed why is this a false advertising

25:57

lawsuits so lawsuits got on the phone with dentist

26:00

I I. Was talking about, he's actually a fan

26:02

of my podcast patreon subscriber and

26:04

I knew he was there. So reached out to ask,

26:06

if you could Do a phone call in and he said so

26:08

we got on the phone, he wanted to remain anonymous.

26:10

So I'm not trying to, but

26:13

he says, technically gingivitis is

26:15

reversible if it's in the early stages.

26:17

So, because gingivitis

26:19

is basically, starting just inflammation

26:21

are bleeding of the gums That's all it is. But

26:24

it's more reversing. It has to do more

26:26

with like the actions of flossing

26:28

and home care and trips to

26:30

the dentist that can help reverse it in the early stages,

26:32

but he said if he were to come across product

26:35

that claim help reverse gingivitis, he

26:37

be extremely skeptical. It doesn't

26:39

make any sense to did you ask him about all this toothpaste

26:41

He

26:43

said that he looks for fluoride

26:45

is primary in but

26:47

he that he's not specialist in any

26:50

of the other In fact, he had never come

26:52

across the charcoal thing. He said he had never

26:54

heard of anyone using charcoal to brush your and

26:56

somehow cuz that's completely missed and maybe

26:58

he also is not on Instagram. and he

27:00

acknowledged that you know coming from dental school

27:02

and being certified by the eighty eight he said i may be

27:04

in a bubble i mean he's just a skeptic as well

27:06

and he is like i'm willing

27:08

to say you've given me some stuff to think about because i was

27:10

going through these ingredients and he's like i've never

27:12

heard of that didn't know that need to look into

27:14

that and so he was kinda taken aback

27:17

by some of them and then some of the ingredients like the

27:19

polyethylene glycol that's an antifreeze

27:21

he said that was that red flag for him when he was in dental

27:23

school and he pushed back and he was like why

27:25

is there ingredient for antifreeze in toothpaste

27:28

and the answer was that's just the way it is

27:30

like okay and then they kinda just drop

27:33

that's just the way it is and also your

27:35

that your annual retreat is sponsored

27:38

by crust this year or so don't ask

27:40

any are already asking those kinds of questions

27:42

that the that the Dinner. parties of reading

27:44

by the pool yet again, he did say, he did

27:46

say that we have young children which know you do the

27:48

said that the you may want to avoid fluoride

27:51

in there to space until they really

27:53

understand the concept of swallowing

27:55

of not swallowing any because he says most kids

27:57

swallow you know good for his of the country

27:59

so That. It it may be good idea to avoid to face and

28:01

in small children or go the

28:03

powders go with a natural stuff, you know, and

28:06

I asked him, also believe. His patients ever

28:08

refused ease fluoride and he said about one

28:10

or two percent us actually would refuse

28:12

it, and said of those seats just as healthy

28:14

as the ones he. Is fluoride and he said yes

28:16

he said they're very healthy teeth but any

28:18

made as good point he said people who are that

28:21

conscious of what they're like.

28:24

A if you're looking at the including senior to

28:26

face in making decision, you really care about

28:28

your health that much you typically eat healthier,

28:30

you typically brush more often. And he probably

28:33

brush for longer and more properly,

28:35

so he's like brushing three times a day

28:37

and brushing after every meal and

28:39

all that may be making up for the fact.

28:41

That they're not using Flora Air that's good point

28:44

that's good for A'm waiting for them to invent nanobots

28:46

that just clean my teeth for me until then I'm

28:48

A. I'm once day and mouthwash in the morning

28:50

Canada pricing disclose that my cell

28:52

but they're I. have dentist

28:54

in your pocket any time you need that's pretty handy

28:57

yes it is work out few times and my life

28:59

he actually gave me one parting

29:01

tip that parting have to say is life changing and

29:03

i've already implemented as in my life he

29:06

talked about the power of dumb but

29:08

when we were kids we were always thought about gum like

29:10

decaying your t to be bad for you and yada

29:12

we broke down scientifically basically he said this

29:15

is like the primary reason people get cavities is

29:17

not because of eating because candy bar or having

29:20

something sweet music the do that it's fine

29:22

but he's like the primary reason is because of

29:24

a ph balance and acid

29:26

levels being thrown off to the

29:28

things like coffee sports drinks energy drink

29:31

sodas beer basically anything other

29:33

than water is like it's the liquids the do it

29:35

because what he says is these things even though they taste

29:37

good in their liquid the dry your mouth out

29:39

it's alcohol it's own zeus energy

29:42

drinks anything that sucks that acidic

29:44

and he's like basically everything you taken that's not

29:46

water is going to be acid based

29:48

on some level and he's like and would your mouth

29:50

gets dry your ph levels are off that

29:53

is what causes the tooth decay and

29:55

ultimately cavities so he

29:57

said if you if you're out somewhere you're want to drink want sports

29:59

drink Eerie. Monsters and my dad is

30:01

gets fined do it, but incorporate

30:04

drinks of water in between so that your ph

30:06

levels reset what he called seven,

30:08

it's balance of seven, right? appear to seven

30:10

as with same as water versus like zero

30:12

zero", said: "I gather fourteen super alkaline

30:15

right exactly as exactly what he said, so

30:17

as I just drink a little. Bit of water while you're having

30:19

your beer or right after your beer

30:21

in between beers, sip water if you

30:23

were going to bar and have cocktail order

30:26

A. Water with it and actually drink the water don't let

30:28

it sit there and watch the ice mice, and he

30:30

said if you don't have water than chew

30:32

gum.

30:33

While. You're out, so if you're after dinner, always

30:35

have some gum handy and pop some come in because

30:38

that GM helps produce saliva

30:40

and that reset your mouth back to a ph

30:42

Balance of seven, so just doing

30:44

the gum and water thing, can drastically help

30:47

reduce your cavities, I will definitely be

30:49

chewing gum after feel I'm just flashing

30:51

back to. All the things I've been drinking for forty

30:53

years growing up in Michigan, where, like, you never,

30:55

you didn't need water, you just had pepsi and

30:58

I'm just cringing at all the. Damage

31:00

for sure tend to my teeth as a result of

31:02

all of this and including using to

31:04

face, which is also just made, made things

31:07

even worse the fairway, yeah. Right,

31:09

so I want to, want to leave everyone with this, want,

31:11

want people to have options right so the idea

31:14

has a full list of fifty six.

31:16

Accepted products with the eighty, seal

31:19

stamped on it, and I've also included comprehensive

31:21

list of the top fifteen

31:23

natural toothpaste options and we can provide

31:26

links to. Both and some of the natural toothpaste also

31:28

have fluoride in them, so there are options of fluoride

31:30

in non fluoride and we can

31:32

provide links to both of those in. The show notes the listeners

31:35

can remain skeptical, do their own research and make their

31:37

own decisions about their own hello, and thank

31:39

you so much slash I'm annoyed now because

31:41

now. That whenever I learn this, I'm like, "well,

31:43

okay, forty two years have gone by and now have

31:45

to change my entire life, at least

31:47

from a dental hygiene perspective, yup"

31:49

Yeah, just two more gum and drink more water, usually

31:52

going to be okay, but this toothpaste thing is

31:54

definitely worth looking into because we do it so

31:56

much so often yep. I'm going to have to go outside

31:58

and look for some gravel to make the.

32:00

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is and as uniquely valuable as we think

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it is. And why television can

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just as job interview in rural Texas town centre

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The know is putting around. And as I

33:00

described above all of those in France

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is are deeply problematic we have enormous

33:04

concepts our ability to

33:07

draw meaningful don't,.

33:11

even know the plots of friends are absurdly

33:14

complex no one in history is

33:16

ever watched an episode of friends and said the last

33:18

may i ask what is going out on a show

33:20

that never happened they do that kids

33:22

are trained actors if you watch lot

33:24

of tv You income to the

33:26

false impression that that's what's going on in your face? The

33:29

do not true at all. A

33:32

significant number of people are what are

33:34

called mismatched. That is that

33:36

their facial expressions, under certain circumstances,

33:38

do not match the way they feel on the inside. Then.

33:41

Amanda Knox Case, an American teenager

33:43

goes, does your brought in Italy and it's

33:46

falsely accused of murdering her roommate,

33:48

and that case is all about second

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mentor, not as mismatched they. Have another

33:52

guy clearly did it and they try to win

33:54

why because she doesn't behave the way

33:57

the Italian police and the British

33:59

tabloid press? I'm one who's roommate

34:01

has been working on today. The

34:03

authentic people jail for years, news, for

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crimes, the had nothing to do it, kids, I mean,

34:08

she was a good college soon man cops.

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For more from Malcolm Gladwell including how

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34:23

scary that's something we are supposed to put it in

34:25

our mouth every single day and putting our kids'

34:27

mouths for that matter is something that you really should

34:30

not swallow a there's lot wrong with toothpaste

34:32

that i just never had any

34:34

idea about and that sort of freaks me

34:36

out because i've definitely swallowed plenty of toothpaste in my

34:38

day they'll make a habit out of it but at least i didn't

34:41

think it was actually bad for me yeah that's

34:43

one of the side effects of doing these episodes a lot

34:45

of things that things did my whole life turned out to be really

34:47

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