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Welcome everybody . Today on the show

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we have a awesome guest , geniji

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Dude enlightened

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me in ways I didn't even know I need to be enlightened

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the mindset paradigm

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shift . I got off this man . The

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start is going to be a little rough

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because I was just like

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we were chatting and I was just asking them like , what

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do you do ? I listened to a lot of your audio . I

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don't understand specifically what you specialize

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in and Geniji

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just tooks off . He started talking

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about everything . We didn't even get a formal introduction

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. This

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dude , listen up . If you're having some anxiety

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, problems , self-worth , self-esteem

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, just an

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understanding of why things are the way they

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are , this dude is going to sit here

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and just blow your mind . He did

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for me at least five times . I even say it at the end

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, if you make it to the end , because this is a long

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one . It

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was like five paradigm shifts and

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it was amazing . I love it , absolutely

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.

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That means that means

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that memories

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are the

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memory of something , it's

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not the thing itself . So

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our internal identity is in its

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life identity , our

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real identity , has function

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, our it's like identity

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only has the memory of when we

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used it or didn't . And

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so 99.99%

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of every , every

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emotional or behavioral

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or psychological issue has

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to do with the treatment of

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the I am . But the

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I am can't be treated . You

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can't treat Santa . What

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are you going to do ? Bring him to a drive , a thought

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car , to a thought store

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to get some thought aspirin to deal

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with his memory of a headache

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? So when we really

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realize that

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the fastest

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way to make a change is to

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help some understand the three

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doers . The first

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doers , the habitual one I'll

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have another beer , I'll have another cigarette , I'll

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reach for the strawberry smokers preserve at

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the store . It's a habitual right

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. And so everything the body

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does For

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the I am is to live out the I

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am . That's all the body will

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do , because the body is

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told to do what represents

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the I am . That's who I am , so that's what

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I do . The second

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doer is the emotional

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doer . The emotional doer is still

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the I am doer , but it's the emotional

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one of anger , violence

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, depression . It still

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represents the I am and

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it has no function . So

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our mental identity has

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no function . Our

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emotional outbursts have

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no function or intention . It's

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just representing the false identity

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. And every cure

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, every PTSD

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, depression , every cure is

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the fact that the individual is living in

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the red and

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not in the green

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, which means that if I have emotional

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issues in the red , that means

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in the green . I was never taught about my natural

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ability for emotional control . If

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I'm automatically saying or feeling

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thing , then I was never taught

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about the intentional doer , and

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this is why we teach this watch

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If

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you were to think of something you habitually

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do . Because our

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identity is virtual

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, which means the only

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way we can prove we are who we are is

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to make it physical , and that's why we need a body of

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products . Okay

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, so our

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behavior specifically designed

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to match our identity . So everything I

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do has to be habitual

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, everything I do

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has to be emotional

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doing , because that's the only available

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. The only way this

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inner false identity can get the

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body to move is if the

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behavior the body is doing represents

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a habit or an emotional

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response Period

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.

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Interesting .

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And in sense intention

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is of the true

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self Watch . Put

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your hand . If you would just rested on a table

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somewhere and

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look at it and think of

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, think of one thing when you go

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to the grocery store , that hand

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will automatically reach for it . Because it's a habit

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Mine

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is smucker strawberry preserves

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During tea . When I go through the aisle there

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will be an automatic grab for the smucker's strawberry

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preserves .

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Mine would probably be the liquid

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death water that's out . Yeah

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cool , there's a habit . You just grab it , I

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don't even think about it .

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Exactly because the subconscious has

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already been taught that's a pre-approved

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behavior . You don't need to think about it anymore

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. So you're not really

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making choices in the I am . Instead

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, you're choosing from choices previously chosen

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.

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Okay , so then how do we catch

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ourselves ?

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Ah , so we don't Now watch . The

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emotional version is

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fuck you . And all of a sudden

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you see the phone flying across the room

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before they realize that they were

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the ones through it . So that's the emotional

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reaction side . Right , and

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we could find emotional reactions , it doesn't

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have to be that crazy , but there is the emotional side

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. Now , your hand still

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being on the left , and

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if you don't

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intend for it to move

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, will it ? Yeah

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, that's the true

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. I am , that's the original doer , the

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intentional doer , and

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that hand will not move unless I intended

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to move . And

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here's where I learned this . So this will wrap it up for you

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. I was sitting

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, I was homeless , my life was sucked

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, I had money

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and was extremely successful prior , but

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up here , I didn't know how to deal with my own

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reality and so

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I was literally homeless . I was living in

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an office small room , because

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it's scammy way into an office . So

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I lived there and

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I was sitting there one day and all of

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a sudden I noticed the thought up here that

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I didn't ask for . Now , this

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was new to me . I'd

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never seen a thought arise . I was just automatically

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reacting in the living room , right

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, and all of a sudden I saw

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a thought arise that I did not ask for . Second

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, I had an

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event at my office one day and I went

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into the bathroom in the

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middle of the office and I'm

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sitting there and my

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hand got about that far away and

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I stopped it and I said what are you doing

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? Boo boo , and

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a memory of about 45

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, 50 years ago came up and

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I remembered my mom used to teach me

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to turn the water on when she peed

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, because good girls aren't

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her peeing . I

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want to know how many years I did that habit

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before I remembered it myself Now

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, knowing that , knowing

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that what is addiction ? What

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is mental illness ? Addiction of

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mental illness is simply

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we're living in the red of

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habitual behavior and

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you're not going to have a new habitual behavior

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because

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there's no intention or function

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in the identity to do so

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.

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Interesting . That makes actually

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a lot of sense for me , because the reason

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I started podcasting for me

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was I was working night shift during COVID

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and I got COVID

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and my whole company lied to me . They're like , oh , you don't

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have COVID . And they're like running me , yeah

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, I'm on the floor having a seizure . And they're like you don't have

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COVID , get back to work or we're going to fire you . So

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I did yeah , really

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yeah . And

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then so I decided that

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that moment once I pulled myself together and just went

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home and I said , hell , if you fire me , you fire me

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kind of thing , but good luck . Convinced you someone to

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scrub shit off your toilet for 1450

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an hour . And

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then so that's

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where I did my week recovery and

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on my birthday was I said I

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will never be that person again . And

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actually I felt like I felt like the

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voice came in my head and was just like you're right and

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you never will . And

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that's where I went from like the sheepish , like

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oh , please , don't look at me . To like what

10:53

are you doing ? Like come on , tell me something . Yeah

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, like it was like a whole 180

10:57

paradigm shift . But

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that's what was that . One day after I

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collected myself , I said okay , we are not doing that

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again . How do we fix this ?

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Yes , and what happens

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is that if you could not find an external

11:11

solution because there's no

11:13

external solution for living in the red

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, there's no medication , no treatment

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, there's nothing that can

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can deal with that . And I

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don't know about you , but I was on medication

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since eight years old . 2006

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was my third attempt , suicide . I

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mean , yeah , I'm sorry , you

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and I have lived some pretty fucked moments

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, and so is everyone

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else , for a simple understanding , we

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were never taught how we create our sense of reality

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, so instead we're just habitually

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doing whatever one else is around us to me , and

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then they themselves weren't taught , and

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so we are literally living in a world

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where most people have no clue

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that they're not helpless or broken and

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that those are ideas that are of the mind

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. But the problem

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of that is like I have this

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analogy of the cup . If

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I were to get a coffee cup , or at least this

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, you know , I get this and

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I put something

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in it . Right , let's

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see if that'll happen . I hear

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the water , the water's saying cup

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, you're broken .

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It's not .

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Oh watch , If

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coffee could

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tell a coffee cup or

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water could tell a water

12:43

container who it is . That

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would mean the content would be telling

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the cup who it is . Okay

12:53

, Our human mind

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is the cup , the

12:58

thoughts and beliefs and memories is the content , but

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yet the human mind we allow ourselves

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to have the content tell us who we are

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.

13:08

That's an interesting shift . I've never

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thought about that way , because I've always thought it was the

13:12

subconscious and the mind itself

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that tells the body what to do .

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Well it does habitually .

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Right .

13:20

But what if it was intentional , an

13:22

intentional being

13:25

? Remember

13:27

, you were born with habits . You were born

13:29

with emotional reactions . So

13:31

everything you did the first born

13:33

is intentional . You intentionally

13:36

tried to grab the rattle

13:38

, you intentionally

13:40

tried to learn how to use a spoon . You

13:42

intentionally learned how to walk , you

13:44

intentionally tried to learn how to crawl and

13:47

you didn't know what day it was . It was not Thursday

13:49

. Because you

13:51

were born with

13:55

an amazing

13:58

function-based

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mind and

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natural abilities

14:07

of a body and an intention-based

14:09

mind that that

14:12

mind cannot tell

14:14

the body to do anything . Unless

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it's built in . The

14:20

mind doesn't make shit up . There

14:22

is no such thing as mind

14:24

. Mind is just a collection

14:26

of ideas and beliefs , no different than there's

14:28

no such thing as a shopping mall . A

14:31

shopping mall is a collection of stores , no

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different than mind is a collection of functions

14:36

. And unless we understand

14:38

how we're creating our sense of reality

14:40

, you and me and all the rest

14:43

are going to believe

14:45

we're broken , because function

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is of the true self , not

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in memory , our

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natural ability for executive functions

14:54

. See , you asked if I'm going to automatically

14:57

say something in habit or

14:59

do something in habit . Well

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, intention is

15:04

the executive function that

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stops it all , and

15:08

that's why the truth of who you are can

15:12

never actually be harmed by that which

15:14

you're not . Because you

15:16

have executive function , the

15:19

mind cannot get you something to

15:21

do that you intentionally choose not to

15:23

do .

15:28

So then the analogy where I wanted to change . I told it

15:30

I wanted to change , so that's where it was like on it , boss

15:32

, give us some time though .

15:35

This is so new for so many people

15:38

and now we've been doing this for

15:40

17 years and I've waited until

15:42

this year to finally release it publicly

15:45

because I needed to have a 15

15:47

year base period on

15:50

the first group of clients . So I knew

15:52

long term results and I'm one of those

15:54

clients , so right . But

15:56

again . So now we're releasing it because just

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we're going to fuck up every spiritual program

16:03

, every personal development program

16:05

, every medical therapy

16:08

program , because it's all

16:10

bullshit , the majority of how they're doing

16:12

it . And

16:14

spirituality is our past

16:17

past . Yesterday

16:21

was my past . My past

16:23

past was before I was born . Spirituality

16:27

typically has to do with where you become

16:29

from . Who are we . We're

16:32

a spiritual being , having and

16:35

remember all

16:37

I can ever actually remember experiences

16:40

, my actual past and

16:42

the past past before

16:45

birth . Spirituality is

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an idea . There's

16:51

nothing there . I

16:54

was not here , so

16:56

it's just belief based Religion

16:59

is our future's future

17:02

. Tomorrow's

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my future . When the body dies

17:06

is my future's future . Religion

17:08

has to do with our future's

17:10

future where I go after I die . Spirituality

17:14

who was I before I was born ? Religion

17:17

who am I before I die ? And

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none of that solves the now problem . So

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let's look at personal development . Personal

17:26

development , actually dealing with the now ? No

17:28

, they're dealing with IMS . Is

17:31

therapy dealing

17:33

with the now ? Noticably , they deal with IMS

17:35

, okay

17:39

.

17:43

So I'm asking this for a friend . She's

17:45

dealing with a lot of like anxiety

17:47

and identity crisis

17:50

. She believes she's one thing , but

17:52

I've noticed it in her she wants

17:54

one thing but , like her subconscious

17:57

, does another , or the habitual

17:59

habit , and it's like

18:01

two pitfalls

18:04

going at each other .

18:05

Can I actually add something here ? Because you and

18:07

you see this , you'll understand . Is there a way to

18:09

put an attachment or a loop ?

18:11

There should be an option to share your

18:14

screen . I

18:16

think it's under more .

18:18

When you do this

18:21

, then yeah , there's a yeah . When I saw you , I've

18:24

listened to some of your interviews and

18:26

my thought was man

18:28

, if I can get through to him and really help them with

18:30

some things , it is just amazing what this

18:32

man can accomplish more than he's done

18:35

now , because I'm going to actually give

18:37

you some solutions and anytime

18:40

I can find someone to partner with

18:42

, I'm just looking for those couple

18:44

of places to really get this out . I've

18:46

shared the option

18:49

.

18:50

So if you go to the bottom , there should be the mute . Yes

18:53

, yeah , so

18:56

there's like a .

18:58

So the green

19:01

this is what I call by the Mimi tool the first

19:03

born . The first

19:05

born is my

19:07

true self . Who

19:09

are we ? Well

19:12

, we're born with empathy and compassion , wisdom , emotional

19:14

compassion , wisdom , emotional control , resilience

19:17

, all of these things . This is who

19:19

we are , that we are born with

19:22

an intention based

19:24

body , that the body doesn't

19:27

have to move unless I intend it to , and

19:30

an intention based mind

19:33

that I don't have to think anything . I

19:36

choose not to think , though .

19:39

Okay .

19:40

That is who we are , which means we have complete control

19:43

over right in the

19:45

mind and emotional control , 100%

19:48

complete control . Every human being is

19:50

born with and then

19:53

and then comes the yellow

19:55

, the one view

19:57

illusion . And if we were

19:59

taught about one view illusion at around

20:01

three or four years old , this is

20:03

when the idea of theory of mind

20:05

comes on . It means that

20:07

we understand around three

20:10

or four years of age that

20:12

I could be thinking something different

20:14

than you are . It's called theory of mind

20:16

that there's an awareness that

20:19

, just because the reality is

20:21

shown this way , that somebody else could be thinking

20:23

of it differently . Now , without

20:25

that , in a human

20:28

being and 99%

20:30

of human beings I work with have never

20:32

gone past that threshold because they did not

20:34

have An individual at home

20:37

to teach them how to utilize that . Instead

20:39

, they were taught something else

20:41

. They were not taught how to

20:43

see thoughts and who they are is different

20:46

. Instead , they were taught to

20:48

melt into the one view illusion

20:50

. And this is the problem

20:52

. This is the only problem . The

20:55

problem is is that , as a human being , both

20:58

of our eyes are joined into

21:00

one view , and

21:04

since the mind will join

21:06

both eyes into one view , it

21:09

will also join whatever else is coming into

21:11

the senses and my beliefs

21:13

, worries and fears into

21:16

one view . And

21:18

in that moment I am my mind

21:20

. I am my thoughts , because

21:25

we see who

21:27

we are and what we've

21:29

been going through . Remember who we

21:32

are . The cup and what

21:34

we've gone through . The content in the cup

21:36

has been the same . It's

21:39

the one view illusion . We treat the

21:41

cup in the content the

21:43

same and

21:46

that's the I am . To

21:49

protect the I am is our emotional

21:53

I do . This is the us that we say is

21:55

not us . Why didn't you do that ? They made me do it

21:57

. I didn't do that . That's not me . I

22:00

wouldn't have done it in less . And

22:05

every client I've ever

22:08

worked with , every

22:10

client . The key is always

22:12

to show them that whatever

22:15

problems they're having in the red is

22:17

because whatever that circumstance

22:20

is is void

22:22

of your natural ability to be able

22:24

to deal with it in the green . That's

22:29

all it's ever been . Then

22:32

the problem after that is is then going

22:34

in and retraining the automatic

22:36

I am and the emotional and working with them . But

22:39

this is what's called by a present moment solution

22:41

, like snacks . If

22:44

I was hungry now but there was only future

22:47

based solutions like breakfast , lunch and dinner

22:49

. I'd have to stay hungry till dinner

22:51

. But there's present moment

22:53

solutions like snacks , snickers

22:56

I really only utilize

22:59

this understanding . In their

23:01

stickers , candy bar commercial with

23:03

everyone asking like Betty White is ahead and had Snickers

23:06

. So

23:09

we provide present

23:12

moment solutions

23:14

, which means we wake individual up

23:16

. So the function of

23:18

intention , now , while

23:21

we're working on the visual and the emotion

23:24

, and

23:26

so they have something immediately to

23:29

stop the addiction , immediately to

23:31

stop the

23:33

panic and the anxiety

23:36

, because it's built in , it's

23:38

who we are . The suffering

23:41

is proof that we don't know who we

23:43

are . That's it

23:45

.

23:46

Wow , that was profane right there , like that was

23:48

powerful , because it's true , like

23:50

for a long time , like

23:52

I believed I was , I

23:55

was or I am ADHD

23:57

and there was no cure for it . And

24:00

the friend I was asking for she has ADHD

24:02

also . But

24:04

I told her , I said the part is like kind of what you

24:06

said , like the intentional catch yourself

24:08

. Like if you start getting a squirrel like

24:11

my , my catch is like pinch

24:13

my thumb , so I'm really feel pain

24:15

, so I have to be like , oh okay

24:17

, and I just train myself

24:19

now to habitual habit . That's a good one for

24:21

me , I can catch myself .

24:25

But you . So you see this for yourself . The

24:27

problem is we didn't have something

24:30

on paper to be able to look at and go my

24:32

God that . Yet I understand

24:35

. I just don't know , and that's

24:37

been the key . I mean , look at you . Everything

24:39

you're describing with her or me or you , is

24:42

understanding that . Yeah , we just

24:44

did not understand how our mind

24:46

creates reality , so it makes it easy

24:49

to cut up on the one view illusion . Everyone

24:51

else , every movie , says you are your thoughts

24:54

. You know , never get over this . So society

24:56

says that that's who I am .

25:00

And that was , yeah , that was me too , because

25:02

, like junior high labor could like , oh , you're a

25:04

monster , you're this , you're terrible

25:06

, no woman will ever love you , kind

25:08

of thing . Sorry , man . Yeah , that

25:11

was like 12 to junior high . So that set

25:13

me on a really rough trajectory

25:15

and I did , I attempted to , as

25:17

I do , clearly didn't work . I'm here

25:19

, um yeah , and

25:22

that's where , yeah , and

25:24

I actually my more source instructor picked me up

25:26

six months later because I was thinking about it again . I'm like man , this

25:28

time I'll just take a whole bottle out of bill , kind

25:32

of thing . There's no going back

25:34

to that , like , hopefully it doesn't hurt . And

25:36

that's where my instructor picked me up , and because

25:38

I had a lot of anger I

25:41

never got to put some more so he showed

25:43

me how to put my anger into a bag and

25:46

use it constructively as martial artists .

25:48

Oh yeah , man , and listen

25:50

. This is where yoga

25:53

, martial arts , meditation

25:56

, all of these things come

25:58

in . The dilemma

26:00

for most is

26:03

that it gives you relief and

26:06

it's just a shiny object and

26:08

I've given a kid a new set of keys that

26:10

just stop crying . It's

26:12

called a redirect , right ? So

26:15

most meditation , most of the stuff out there now , is a redirect , so

26:18

it keeps you in the I am because it's a

26:20

habit of meditation , a habit of yoga

26:22

, and it's not moving you outside

26:25

of it , so it's able to give relief , but

26:28

it doesn't give you a solution , and

26:30

so most of the things out there are

26:33

relief generating

26:35

, not solution generating , and

26:38

so that's why I'm literally the last

26:40

stop . People don't

26:43

need to go in and wrap it . They come through this program

26:45

and it takes about eight hours to

26:47

really get a handle on understanding it . Let

26:50

me just go through the process of what it takes kind of

26:52

long term to guide someone through

26:54

a change , and

26:56

the reason why I know it works is my

26:59

mom committed suicide when

27:01

she was 38 . All

27:03

growing up as a kid , that's all

27:05

she would say is suicide . I watched my

27:07

mom change in

27:09

the timeframe I was born . When young

27:12

teenage girls are pregnant , they're bad

27:14

. They're kicked out of high

27:16

school and kicked out of their homes . The same was

27:18

for my mom . She never finished

27:20

the 10th grade . So here's this teenage kid

27:23

who has got pregnant by some guy that just got

27:25

back from the Korean War

27:27

in his mid 20s . So

27:30

they married Pretty soon

27:32

. She wouldn't go outside without her makeup on . Pretty

27:36

soon she wouldn't let anyone touch her unless

27:38

her legs were shaved , and

27:40

so pretty soon she lived in . I am that

27:42

she didn't know before and I lost her . I

27:44

didn't know that's what was going on at the time , but

27:47

it's the same thing that happened to you and same thing

27:49

that happened to me . We got

27:51

lost in a mind that we didn't

27:53

know how to get out of and

27:55

we're inside going . I want

27:57

out , but there was no functions

28:00

or buttons within the identity that could

28:02

let us out .

28:04

Yeah and yeah , I

28:07

agree .

28:08

In 2000 . Sorry , in

28:13

1982

28:16

my daughter was born . In

28:18

1983 I

28:21

had a mental breakdown . I

28:23

was in the military . It

28:26

was a suicide attempt . Military

28:29

doesn't like suicide attempts . They

28:31

put me in a federal military prison

28:33

for six years . I

28:37

didn't see my daughter until she was 27 . And

28:41

when they let me back out , the

28:44

first thing I did was try to commit suicide again . And

28:46

you know what they gave me when I got out of a mental hospital

28:48

on 90 days of quiet , prozac and

28:50

sleeping pills . That's

28:53

when I knew they had no fucking clue

28:55

. My

28:57

mom couldn't get out , my brother died of a heroin

29:00

addiction and I damn near died

29:02

too in soaring heavy . And

29:04

this is why I would do everything I

29:06

can to help and

29:08

I can't thank you enough

29:11

for this

29:13

conversation and having a chance to

29:15

share this with

29:17

other individuals . And if there's ever

29:19

a time you'd like

29:22

to come on board . I mean we need

29:24

, we need good people . I mean in a lot

29:26

of different things we were . I don't

29:28

know what you're doing , but if there's anything on

29:30

the side , you want to sit on a council of

29:32

and and with and be part of and

29:34

maybe monetize a bunch of

29:36

stuff . I mean I'm looking for individuals

29:39

that were just like me , that have been out there trying

29:41

to help , and if they had

29:43

these tools also help people

29:46

with just how much will better help

29:49

her they can be in better outcome that they can

29:51

be .

29:53

I agree , I 100% agree . Yeah , I

29:57

always like my motto . When I first started

29:59

this , like I said , when I was on the floor pretty

30:01

much having a seizure on at the job , I

30:05

just said I was going to pot . Yeah , it was

30:07

. That whole situation was fucked up

30:09

. I even told my former

30:12

employer when he was leaving because he heard

30:14

about the situation for me and he's like he's

30:17

like I ain't you suit the company . I'm like I

30:19

didn't know better . Plus , that's annoying . I don't

30:22

want to pay lawyers a lot of money . I'll

30:24

just quit and said kind of

30:26

thing . But

30:29

my rules when I started this podcast is

30:31

I want it to be if ever

30:33

a little Josh could stumble across

30:35

something , I want him to find this . So

30:38

he realizes like , oh

30:40

yeah , that podcast guy . He has no clue what he's

30:42

talking about , but he's learned that

30:45

the guest is giving him way more

30:47

than he came into the room

30:49

with in his like okay , I'm not alone in this

30:51

, like I get it as

30:54

fucking awesome and I mean I love

30:56

how that's

30:58

been the story of our wisdom story

31:01

.

31:01

It's like the wheel was invented

31:03

4,000 final

31:05

years ago somewhere , but

31:08

it meant that only people right

31:10

there on earth knew about it . Nobody else on earth did

31:13

. And how much

31:15

knowledge is out there , like what we're sharing

31:17

now , that's out there that people

31:19

just don't know , that's available to them

31:21

. So for you to have a platform

31:23

that not just brings

31:26

in wheels you

31:30

never know , but also for you to then share

31:32

that and that's off to

31:34

you and fucking me . That

31:36

is a gift of what you're doing .

31:40

That's actually one of those , like how you were talking about

31:43

we were born with certain talents and

31:45

skills . Mine has always been like

31:47

nine like a insubordinate way

31:49

, but I've always challenged people , even

31:52

at a in preschool

31:54

and kindergarten . I was

31:56

actually kicked out of a Christian preschool because

31:59

I asked him a questions .

32:01

I'd like to buy you a beer . In hell over that one .

32:07

Because they they contradict

32:10

themselves . They're like oh you , if you do this , this

32:12

and this , you will be accepted in heaven

32:14

, no matter what . But then , like , they

32:16

skip back a couple of verses and it says do

32:18

this , and which canceled

32:21

everything . That's what I was like wait , wait , wait . It just said this

32:23

and you can have him . But they say do the same

32:25

thing and guarantee to go to hell which one's correct and which one's

32:27

not . And they're like oh

32:29

he , even he , even blessed for me

32:31

. I'm like wait , I'm confused though

32:33

.

32:36

And I think we're at a point now where

32:38

, especially with the release of AI

32:41

, I think people are going to need

32:43

more and more of the authentic now

32:45

, more than ever .

32:46

Right , that was actually a big one . I tell

32:48

people because they're like , a lot of people

32:50

still contact me over my show what's

32:53

your thoughts on AI ? I'm like AI will get

32:55

very smart on strategies , but it'll

32:57

never fully understand the human emotions

32:59

. I said that's

33:01

the . I

33:05

just told them , like that's the edge we as

33:07

humans have , because emotions themselves

33:10

are so unpredictable Like you can predict

33:12

on how to trigger it , we don't predict what

33:14

will happen from it . So that's

33:17

that's the part where we humans .

33:18

Well , you can now Sort

33:21

of . Well , again , again

33:23

, it's it's . I always

33:25

want to be careful when we're talking about the I

33:27

am change , because you

33:30

know the , the

33:33

, the I am Is

33:36

not an always , it's

33:39

not a never , and

33:42

so you know it's it's

33:44

always wanting

33:46

to make sure that that

33:48

I'm including the

33:51

it is version of

33:54

it . So

33:56

there's , there's , there's no habit

33:59

that

34:02

that can't be changed because it was created

34:05

or habit . This

34:09

will blow your mind , you know I . Most people

34:11

don't believe solutions are

34:13

available to them . Why ? Because

34:16

the real them , the green , their

34:19

natural abilities have become unconscious

34:22

to them .

34:25

Interesting .

34:26

Now watch , at this moment

34:28

there's pressure of the shirt

34:30

on your shortness , and

34:34

so I reminded you . It

34:37

was unconscious . So

34:40

something that's right here right now

34:42

can be unconscious

34:44

to us , and how

34:46

much else of who we are , of

34:49

our gifts and talents and abilities

34:51

, are also unconscious

34:54

to us , and I swear

34:56

that they're not here . No

34:59

different than and

35:04

so that's that's the key

35:06

is , and then making

35:09

sure that we understand that the human mind

35:11

is the only thing I've ever found capable

35:14

of being taught to tell itself it's

35:16

broken . And once the

35:18

human mind has been taught to tell itself

35:20

it's broken , it can then be taught

35:22

to tell itself there is no solution

35:25

, no cure .

35:28

Yeah , I

35:32

can . I honestly I believe that because when I was , I

35:34

was taught at a very young age from

35:37

all the people at school like you're a monster

35:39

in this net . So I started

35:41

building that habit of a monster and

35:45

then , like it was , and

35:49

I was 26 , I left my

35:51

old job at 30 . So by

35:53

26 I started to realize something's wrong . And

35:56

then two years later , because

35:58

I started in , 1820 is when the

36:00

lockdowns happen , so

36:02

by then I couldn't get into the doctor , fun

36:06

fact for you . So the doctor Indian

36:08

guy when I needed my health insurance and all that

36:10

, because California they got

36:12

some health insurance rules I don't like . So

36:16

I did it , got my Kaiser permanent in all that . And

36:18

the physician the

36:20

doctor prescribed me meds and all that . Like

36:22

, how long have you been on these meds

36:25

? Proper Indian dude wouldn't say

36:27

anything bad or politically

36:29

incorrect . I'm like , oh you know

36:31

, last

36:34

I can remember , like this cocktail I've been on

36:36

since I'm 13 , but I've been on it

36:38

since I was eight . And

36:40

he sat there and he said the medicine

36:42

you're taking specifically is

36:45

anti seizure , side

36:47

effect , antidepressant . The

36:50

other one pill I was taking was a mood

36:52

amplifier and then I was essentially

36:55

so my brain's really slow , really

36:57

emotional . And the third one was legal

36:59

speed . He's like I'm

37:01

surprised your brain can even function right now

37:03

. He's like it should technically

37:05

be mush right now because

37:08

you've been running in the red for like

37:10

13 years . And

37:14

I told him like I guess I'm just made of tougher stuff . The

37:17

thing he said he's like do you remember

37:19

opening the doorknob coming into my

37:21

building ? And I'm like , oh

37:24

yeah , I opened it because you know it looks very

37:26

specific . What does it look like ? My

37:28

it's officially opened . Yeah

37:32

, and that's where I was , like I literally

37:34

I can't call it , I don't know why . And

37:36

he said that's because the drugs have fucked

37:39

up your brain so much you can't remember anything .

37:41

Yeah , I wouldn't go that far . I would say that what it really

37:44

is is this there's

37:46

this constant thought stream .

37:48

Okay .

37:49

Run in our head just chatter , chatter , chatter , chatter

37:51

, chatter , chatter , chatter , chatter , chatter , chatter , chatter

37:54

, chatter . And

37:58

if awareness

38:00

is gone from the pressure

38:03

of the shirt on the shoulders Right

38:05

, wouldn't awareness be gone for

38:07

the doorknob ?

38:10

Yes , you're just

38:12

going through the motions at that point .

38:13

That's it . And

38:16

the reason is no one's ever taught anyone

38:18

how to actually see their subconscious

38:20

, so they have no clue what a projection

38:23

looks like , no idea what the thought

38:25

stream looks like . If

38:27

you have a book , takes 30 seconds

38:30

to show you , I'll show you , you'll

38:32

meet your subconscious .

38:35

Just put Ron Michelle hang on . There

38:40

we go .

38:42

Preferably find something . Preferably find

38:44

something is just text

38:46

, not pictures or anything . When you open it up

38:48

, just a couple of pages to just that's

38:51

a perfect . Now , if you would

38:53

I don't want you so if

38:55

you would just look at the page and

38:57

tell me what's the first thing you see when

38:59

you look at the page , when you turn

39:01

it around . I was first using let

39:04

go of things . Okay . Now

39:06

if you would turn it around to just

39:08

your scene it , if

39:10

you would want you to just look at a

39:13

paragraph somewhere

39:15

in the middle and just kind

39:17

of glance at

39:20

it . You're not going to focus , your

39:22

gaze is that way , but you're not really

39:24

having to focus on anything . Okay

39:27

, and I'm going to ask you Are

39:30

there words on the page ? Yes

39:33

, words are on the page

39:35

.

39:36

Okay , on this side of the like

39:38

, on the paper itself , yes , Okay .

39:41

So I want to ask you something . If I didn't speak English and I

39:43

looked at that , what

39:45

would it be ?

39:46

now , what would

39:48

be words in a different language on a piece

39:50

of You've used no words .

39:53

How do I know that if it's a different language ?

39:54

Okay

39:57

, okay , I get where you're going now .

39:59

No , look at the page , you can . The

40:02

words are not on the page . Is that

40:05

here ? Yes , okay , welcome

40:10

to the one of your illusion . Now

40:12

look around at everything and

40:14

your subconscious will say draw

40:16

tree . That

40:21

. That Is

40:26

the subconscious thought stream constantly

40:28

going in the mind , constantly here

40:30

, and most people can't

40:33

see beyond the thought

40:35

stream . And

40:38

the thought stream was the doorknob

40:41

. All they

40:43

saw was an automatic turn

40:45

into us or whatever it

40:48

was . Okay , the words

40:50

are not on the page . Look again

40:52

, just look at the page . The

40:55

words are not on the page . This

40:57

is the most important thing I can give you

40:59

as a gift . The words are

41:01

not on the page . Look at it again and

41:03

see on the inside of it . Don't just know it . The

41:06

words are just on the page .

41:10

No , they're in your mind . So

41:12

then I'm just curious then , since

41:15

we're going down this route , if

41:19

there's words are not on the page , how

41:22

am I still able to read it though ?

41:24

Because but

41:27

I think this A

41:29

, b , c , d , e , f

41:31

, g , h .

41:32

I Okay .

41:35

Your mind has patterns , your mind has patterns

41:37

, okay , and it knows that this letter

41:39

and this letter and this letter equals that word . It's a pattern

41:42

, okay , okay

41:44

Now . Get

41:49

in that now . You don't look

41:51

out in your eyes , John .

41:57

Is it like the third eye too ?

41:59

No , don't fuck with me that bullshit . You

42:02

don't look out your eyes . Remember

42:04

. Senses are input devices

42:06

, not output . Can

42:09

you see in the dark ? Are there flashlights ? No

42:11

, it's an input , not an exit , not

42:13

an output . The light does not come out . The eyes

42:15

Inflate , goes in the eyes , and

42:19

so reality is happening in here . There's

42:22

the reality of what is and

42:24

then the reality of what's being made

42:27

of it . Okay , and

42:31

most people is automatic because

42:34

they only see what's being made of it . They can't

42:36

see actual reality . Is it

42:38

because actual reality is too hard

42:41

?

42:42

No , actual reality is not what they're

42:45

into the influencing ?

42:45

Okay , so how does one maybe like

42:47

, let's say , they're ?

42:49

listening and they're

42:52

still a little confused on it . How does one catch like their subconscious

42:54

? Is

42:57

it like when you ask yourself a voice you don't hear ? It's all the doer . It's

43:00

all the doer Daring to you . It's all the doer Every

43:03

time you do something . It's easy to know , right off the

43:05

bat .

43:05

Was it a habit of motion or did I intend

43:07

to ? I don't know , I don't know

43:10

, I don't know , I don't know , I don't

43:12

know . Was it

43:14

a habit of motion or did I intend to ? We

43:18

get you send it . What ? Should you go back

43:20

to do ? Any

43:24

kind of whatever that is ? Are

43:28

you intending to have a panic attack , or is this a

43:30

habitual or emotional , or

43:32

intention ? Intention

43:34

brings back every time , every

43:37

time , every time , every

43:39

time , because nobody

43:41

intends to be panicked , nobody

43:44

intends to be broken

43:46

Right

43:48

, so we're

43:50

taught , but

43:53

here intention is

43:55

the only way back out and

43:59

you don't have to go anywhere . Dogs

44:02

everyone to dog paddling

44:04

school . Never had to see a dog have to

44:06

be taught on a paddle . I've never seen

44:08

a baby have to go to baby laughing

44:11

school . You automatically

44:13

know , I don't know . We

44:15

automatically know the difference between what

44:17

is and what isn't . You automatically

44:19

know these things Until

44:23

we have been so conditioned

44:25

to be hooked on the thought stream . And

44:29

now , really , all we see is

44:32

the thought stream and

44:34

we don't see the other . Yeah

44:38

, my

44:40

job , I was actually like you need

44:43

to be out of that . Sure , yes , my job

44:45

, the gift I've

44:48

spent 17 years to learn to understand , is that

44:50

transition point . All

44:53

we go asleep , we wake back up

44:56

and that's what I've spent everything

44:58

to do . I mean , think about it . You

45:01

know why most businesses fail . They

45:03

sell to an I am . That

45:05

will only do what

45:08

the body is supposed to do to act

45:10

out that identity . So if they buy a new product

45:12

, it's not habitual . They won't use it . So

45:16

most people try to better themselves

45:18

buying products that will better themselves

45:21

. But there's

45:23

no intention of the I am to ever

45:25

use it . Because

45:28

if they did , they have to become a new I

45:31

am . Because to use it they

45:33

become a new person . They'd have a new portion

45:35

of life . They have a new thing they do . So

45:37

they can't change their identity . So

45:43

the habitual I am with

45:45

an I do that won't do anything except

45:47

what is been taught to do . Now

45:50

just bought a product and the I am is back

45:52

on . Who's going to do it ? I can't

45:54

. And 99

45:56

, every coaching program , every therapy

45:58

, every , every program is that they

46:01

don't understand that they're selling to

46:03

an I am and they did not

46:05

wake up . The intentional do

46:07

word is now going to use the product

46:09

, because you're not going to be

46:11

able to create a new habitual I . Am they

46:14

just signed up ? How long is that going to fucking take ? We're

46:17

not going to get them change their emotional reactions

46:19

. That's going to take some time to

46:22

rewire the money , and

46:24

so the only way anyone can ever get

46:26

anyone to do anything is

46:29

to bring them back to intention . Why

46:35

do so many programs have a failure rate

46:37

? Why do so many therapy

46:40

, coaching programs and schools

46:43

of lessons ? That's why we were brought into San

46:45

Francisco State University and several

46:47

other places to help them on some things , because

46:50

they just didn't understand . This

46:52

is where you right

46:54

now , your intention

46:56

, don't need to replace

46:59

your past . Why

47:02

would you ? And you can just intentionally

47:04

move on from it . You

47:08

don't need to change any habit . If

47:10

, when it pops up , you can intentionally stop

47:13

it at the incredible mouse before it gets to

47:15

the incredible hole , then

47:18

in the stopping of it is

47:20

the new teaching that

47:22

the mind and body is learning , not

47:24

memorization , as if it's a new phone

47:26

number , right

47:28

? So

47:31

the easiest step one is

47:33

this always when

47:36

you don't need a step two or three . Step

47:38

one is did I just say

47:40

something to bitch . If it's a bitch , emotionally or did I intend

47:42

it ? And

47:46

if you cannot say that you intended it , then you know

47:48

where you were . So I just said something or did something

47:50

, emotional to have it .

47:52

Yeah .

47:53

And I now see that . What would I

47:55

rather do ? Because now I'm

47:57

an intention and I can do something else instead . Okay

47:59

.

48:03

So then I'm just curious for you you

48:06

definitely would have the answer then . I've

48:08

always wanted to write a story , but

48:10

every time I sit down from my computer I

48:12

freeze Like really I like

48:14

my hands , I'm like I'm like having to like do

48:16

this , like move , so what

48:18

?

48:18

you're saying is your true

48:21

self intentionally wants to do

48:23

something that

48:25

you keep allowing . A knowingly

48:27

habitual I am , but doesn't

48:29

want to .

48:31

So for that case , would I just

48:34

literally have to muscle my way through it and just put my

48:36

hands in the back of my head .

48:41

Well , you know , if you're not going to have muscle , well here's the

48:43

muscles . A good word . It

48:46

just seems like it's going to be so much fucking

48:48

work . But if you

48:50

ever had your bladder tell you that you needed to

48:52

go pee but you're in a situation that

48:54

you can't then you notice about two , three five minutes

48:58

later that sensation

49:03

went and went away . Yeah , so same concept , okay , okay . So you know

49:05

, gotta be a body . And you did what I

49:07

intend not to at this moment . It's

49:09

the same thing , we just never noticed .

49:14

Hey , you saved like right there . That

49:16

was like the light bulb for me . That

49:19

is that because I have a lot

49:21

of stories since a very young age

49:23

, I've always wanted to put them on paper , even

49:25

if I don't get them published . But

49:27

it's one of those . Every time I sit with my

49:30

fancy little Bluetooth keyboard I even buy nothing

49:32

, I just literally my

49:34

hands sit there .

49:35

Well , here you are , that intentional creator

49:37

wanting to share

49:40

something with the world . That's

49:43

part of the truth of who we are . We're creative

49:45

, we're curious , we're explorers

49:48

. Right , we share and do cool

49:50

things because that's our natural state of being

49:52

. And then you sit down to

49:54

the keyboard and

49:57

the thought string takes over and we

50:00

want to call that procrastination , but

50:02

what it really is is my I am

50:05

is not the type of person that would do this .

50:08

So then , to build a new world , you already would have .

50:11

Well , you just do it , okay

50:13

, because it has

50:15

nothing to do with your identity . I

50:17

mean , the moment you realize that red is

50:20

just all made up , I don't even call it a fucking

50:22

identity . I mean I just don't live with that

50:24

shit anymore . All right , do something . I

50:26

intend to do it . If I don't , and I don't , and I

50:28

just don't fuck around for red shitting anymore , because

50:30

we were never meant to begin with . It just happens

50:32

we could have been taught to pay attention

50:34

to the dust in our belly button instead of we're

50:37

taught to dwell and focus on boxing emotions

50:39

. It's the same shit .

50:42

So then also would that be

50:44

like the fear

50:47

of posting , like someone listening wants to

50:49

start a YouTube channel . I'm just giving an IPa set . Their

50:52

fear is the post , because the like Twitter

50:54

mob would come after them . I love Twitter trailing

50:56

, so that's a different story .

50:58

Well , no , that's the I am because , remember

51:01

, the I am isn't someone that would do it or it already

51:03

would . And so the

51:05

Frank , the emotionals , giving all the

51:07

reasons why Okay

51:10

, see the Okay , the

51:14

I am is a what . What

51:16

do you do ? I do this to bitch

51:19

. The I am is a what . The

51:22

I am is also an emotional why

51:25

, and

51:28

that's the emotion side . Now

51:30

, what did you do to have it so ? But

51:33

why ? Anytime there's a wire

51:35

? Because it's emotion driven

51:37

, every time it's

51:43

not the true self .

51:47

My ego is completely shattered right now , because

51:49

this is not my whole brain . I'm freaking out

51:51

like well , what are we doing ? What are we doing ?

51:54

Well , but what's happening is and that's

51:56

a good thing that you can watch

51:58

it , and you said

52:00

my brain is doing it , it's not that I'm doing it

52:02

, so you can even hear the disconnect

52:05

that a do is happening , like having

52:07

to pee , but I just really don't fucking need to do

52:09

or anything to do about it . I have something else

52:11

I'm going to do . Thanks , spring . Thanks , that's

52:14

right . Life sucks . I appreciate it anyhow . Thanks

52:17

, sensation . Oh , you're right

52:19

, I got to pee , but I can't right now . Anyhow , if

52:24

it's not intention , you have to bring

52:26

it to intention and it's

52:28

over . Then

52:32

the next time bring

52:34

it to intention , just like fucking

52:37

learning a new phone number . Except

52:40

I'm not trying to memorize my

52:42

behavior , I'm trying

52:45

to teach my subconscious what

52:47

it does , so

52:51

individually . Going you can't

52:53

do it is you

52:58

can do anything you want , because emotions aren't what's going to fucking

53:00

do it . I

53:02

mean , you just find the reality . That's true

53:05

. I

53:07

don't do this because I want to experience an emotion

53:09

. I do it because I have a passion

53:11

, and

53:14

if the way my mind was previously

53:16

taught gets in the way of that

53:18

passion , well

53:20

then it's no different than an eight year

53:22

old come up to me and saying you can't do it . I

53:25

can listen to an eight year old

53:27

, listen to a previous thought , remember

53:30

. It's still going to pop up , but

53:32

if it doesn't match my new intention

53:34

, I wouldn't want to answer it because

53:37

it's the me that I used to be

53:39

. That's the time . That's what

53:42

takes time . It takes

53:44

time for the person to get used

53:46

to that

53:48

, automatically looking on to that , coming

53:52

back to intention , because

53:54

pretty soon they have it as what Attention

53:57

?

54:00

Intentionally being here , potentially being like

54:02

with the present kind of things .

54:04

So this way my habitual and my emotional

54:06

now represents my true

54:08

self , Not the

54:11

person I was taught to be . Remember

54:13

, our mind was taught to

54:15

have virtually and automatically give us a

54:17

life much different than the one I would choose

54:19

.

54:24

Is that because of , like previous

54:26

conditioning from our parents and school system

54:28

, or ?

54:29

is it All of it Not knowing

54:31

I'm not knowing I'm

54:35

knowing . Didn't say I mean it's just from

54:37

all of it again , if

54:40

reality is only what is now and

54:44

the true self Is

54:48

what's now and

54:50

the natural abilities of the body is

54:53

now and the functions

54:55

I have in the mind is now , and

54:59

anything does not represent well , could

55:01

not represent intention .

55:07

So essentially Nike kind

55:09

of like , summarized in three words just just

55:11

do it .

55:14

You're a now year old . Well , you're a now year old , right

55:16

, but that's all you could be . That's

55:19

all you could be in actual reality is a

55:21

now year old . You can only be

55:23

that which is true now , and

55:28

that's reality .

55:36

So the present , or the now is

55:39

reality . The past is

55:41

done and the future is

55:43

yet to come , and so be

55:46

here .

55:47

I can't solve my past

55:49

from beliefs in the past . It's

55:52

not now the function to be able to solve

55:54

, it is now . I

55:57

can't stop an emotion and

56:03

something I learned yesterday if it's not

56:05

a habit . Instead , I need to be able

56:07

to do it intentionally . Now I

56:11

can't stop a behavior I don't want to act on

56:14

If it's automatic

56:16

. Instead , I have to turn it off

56:18

intentionally . I

56:24

choose to no longer give these thoughts

56:26

of voice and I choose

56:28

to no longer give those emotions of

56:30

behavior , and

56:32

that becomes your new you , the

56:35

you in the mind . All that's

56:37

left is intention .

56:43

I'm sure you have the answer to this . So how

56:45

long would it take ? Once you're being intentional

56:47

, does the intention become habit ? So

56:50

like , let's say , someone suffers from porn

56:52

addiction , how long would

56:54

it be before they realize , like , okay , after

56:57

X amount of time , it's not

56:59

just , it's

57:01

not intentional , it's become habit now

57:03

, the

57:05

way to answer that is through

57:07

a direct experience .

57:10

The only thing I tell people

57:12

, the only high tech tool I use is

57:14

a plastic cup , and

57:18

the plastic cup . Teaching goes like

57:20

this Take

57:24

a cup , put it next to your bed

57:26

with a little bit of water and

57:28

sit it next to your bed and look at

57:31

it and say to yourself where's the cup ? And

57:33

then lay back down Where's

57:36

the cup , where's the cup

57:38

. When you wake up in the morning , you're going

57:41

to get up and you're going to

57:44

just habitually get up how you normally habitually

57:46

get up , and you're about to put your foot over and

57:49

you all oh shit , the cup , where's the cup , where's

57:51

the cup . So the first time is going to

57:53

be a failure because it's not habit yet

57:55

, right ? So that morning , where's the cup , where's the cup

57:57

, where's the cup ? When you go to bed that

57:59

night , where's the cup , where's the cup ? And

58:04

what's going to happen is is inevitably

58:06

you will wake up one morning and

58:10

before you even move the covers

58:12

, before you even consciously

58:15

think where's the cup ? The

58:17

cup in your head . Automatically , and

58:22

in that moment , by a

58:24

simple exercise , you

58:26

will now understand how to retrain your mind on anything you choose , to retrain it

58:28

to do . Everything I teach

58:30

is for the individual to actually know how

58:35

to utilize it purposefully . So

58:40

the amount of time it takes for someone to wake

58:42

up and say where's the cup , it's

58:44

personal . It's going to depend

58:46

on their intention that

58:48

night . If they mean it , I mean the mind

58:50

. We can't fool ourselves . You actually

58:53

have to want to be able to do it , and

58:55

when someone does , usually takes about 10 days , Eight

59:00

some , well , 14 in the next . The

59:03

old bullshit it takes 12

59:05

days for a half , it's all bullshit . It

59:08

just depends on the stability of the prompt , remember

59:13

, you can't just wake up and go I wonder

59:15

where the cup is . No

59:17

, it's where's the cup , and so it really depends

59:19

on because you can't be able to do it

59:21

. And so it really depends on

59:24

because you can't memorize your phone number

59:26

. With them being random numbers , you

59:28

wouldn't be able to recall the exact same thing as

59:31

a phone number . So it's the same thing in the

59:33

mind . And once someone sees

59:35

that , they see how everyone

59:37

of their habits were created

59:39

and they know what they have built

59:41

it within themselves to solve . Whatever's

59:44

been going on , it's

59:48

built in for

59:50

you and all of us .

59:52

Okay . So then this just

59:55

kind of popped in my brain Would

59:57

like journaling also sort

1:00:00

of help with . I'm not talking like that today . Lucy

1:00:02

looked at me and said I was mean , it's

1:00:05

like the more bullet points

1:00:07

and like , okay , I did this , I need

1:00:09

to work on this kind of thing , right

1:00:11

?

1:00:11

So what I always tell

1:00:14

everyone is

1:00:16

don't do

1:00:18

anything until

1:00:20

you have the . And

1:00:23

the cup exercise is one of the first things

1:00:26

I introduce because

1:00:28

it takes that seven to 10 to

1:00:30

14 day timeframe . So I

1:00:32

needed to age while we're working with them on

1:00:34

other things , and

1:00:39

so it's the same . It's

1:00:43

when you understand

1:00:45

that ability to naturally

1:00:48

reframe the mind . Again

1:00:53

it's . I

1:01:00

bought an RV in 2000 . I spent

1:01:02

a year in it to go teach . My

1:01:05

dog spent the first night with me . I

1:01:07

got out of bed and when I went to hit the

1:01:09

floor I stuffed in a dog . I

1:01:12

didn't realize he was sleeping on the floor

1:01:14

next to my bed in the RV

1:01:17

. I then started the cup exercise Of

1:01:20

course not In this case . It was where his spirit

1:01:22

and

1:01:25

it took about 10 days . It

1:01:29

was on that journey that

1:01:31

understood how to really

1:01:33

quickly retrain the mind . Where the

1:01:36

human being sees that

1:01:38

whatever addiction , whatever habit , sexual

1:01:40

, could be hurting themselves

1:01:42

, emotional reaction , whatever that is

1:01:45

is once they understand

1:01:47

how to reprogram the mind , it

1:01:49

can then be shown how to take on whatever those

1:01:51

addictions or other things are

1:01:53

literally within a very short

1:01:56

period of time of reframing

1:01:59

it . Most

1:02:01

addictions it's faster to

1:02:03

introduce a new

1:02:06

expression . For instance

1:02:08

, I'm not calling my

1:02:10

dealer , I'm calling my sponsor

1:02:13

. I'm

1:02:15

not having a meltdown , I'm not smoking

1:02:17

cigarettes , I'm eating chewing gum . The

1:02:21

ability of reframing a habit can be

1:02:23

very quick in comparison to creating

1:02:25

a new one , like the cup . Once

1:02:28

they have an understanding of

1:02:30

the cup , then reframing other

1:02:32

ones are even that much easier . I always

1:02:35

go for the reframe . I always go

1:02:37

for them knowing how to redo the cup first . Then

1:02:39

they know , functionally there's

1:02:41

nothing . Anyone can never tell them that they're helpless

1:02:44

about it again Ever

1:02:46

.

1:02:51

That's good . I know

1:02:53

a lot of people , especially

1:02:55

since the lockdowns with COVID

1:02:57

. The

1:02:59

reason I brought up porn addiction is I did

1:03:02

have it for a while . It was starting

1:03:04

to catch myself slip back . I was also asking

1:03:06

for myself because I don't

1:03:08

want to get to the point where I

1:03:11

have actually missed interviews over it . It's

1:03:13

like sitting there for three hours

1:03:15

and it's like why isn't anything happening ? It's like

1:03:18

, oh crap , I had someone like an hour ago

1:03:20

I was supposed to interview . That's

1:03:23

where I was just asking for myself , also very

1:03:25

selfishly , so I don't slip back to it .

1:03:29

I mean , listen , in

1:03:32

1987

1:03:38

, about a carpet company . In 1990

1:03:41

, about an art store , a

1:03:44

vending company , in a newspaper . By

1:03:46

1987

1:03:51

, I was homeless , broke

1:03:53

a meth addiction

1:03:55

and basically living out of

1:03:57

a car that if they

1:03:59

could find they would repossess . That

1:04:04

then led to suicide

1:04:06

and led to everything else and I

1:04:08

was told that you will never

1:04:10

get over the addiction . That's

1:04:13

a disease , I was told , because I have

1:04:15

my own sexual issues as well . I

1:04:18

mean , it's when we realize

1:04:20

that a fantasy is just between me and my

1:04:22

beliefs . There's

1:04:25

nobody there but me . I'm

1:04:28

literally taking the . I am

1:04:31

what we're making in the mind and

1:04:34

making it emotional and having an orgasm

1:04:37

. That's exactly the same

1:04:39

thing that creates pain . There's

1:04:43

nobody there but me and my thoughts . Nobody there but

1:04:45

you and your fantasy . If

1:04:47

I can have an orgasm over something not

1:04:50

there , then I can create

1:04:52

depression over something not there . I

1:04:55

can be excited about Santa , even though there's

1:04:57

no one there . This

1:05:00

is the illusion of the one

1:05:02

view . We treat

1:05:05

what's

1:05:07

in the mind as equal to what's in the real

1:05:09

world . Pretty

1:05:11

soon the real world isn't giving us what

1:05:13

we want when the fantasy world does

1:05:15

, because there's nobody there

1:05:17

needed but me .

1:05:23

I'm not going to be able to do that . That's

1:05:27

good , it's

1:05:30

true , though , as I thought about

1:05:32

it , a lot of things I

1:05:34

do , actually

1:05:36

a lot of people have been saying this to me , but I'm getting better

1:05:38

about it . I was telling

1:05:40

you about the writing thing . I was

1:05:42

like what do I do ? Just do it , or

1:05:45

understand the process of it . One

1:05:49

cousin I'll actually throw her into this she

1:05:52

had a tantrum over not getting a car . It

1:05:55

was this whole big deal . She

1:05:57

knows me and I'm very blunt about things

1:05:59

and I don't really mince my words . She

1:06:03

officially came to everyone , tail-talked for her time

1:06:06

between her legs and stuff . Finally

1:06:09

, I'm like hey , how are you doing ? Why were

1:06:11

you crying in the car over there ? It's a great

1:06:13

car , I get it . It smells good , I

1:06:16

think . Why were you crying ? She's like oh , I won my own

1:06:18

car . Then I saw

1:06:20

you came and I didn't want to come out . I'm like why

1:06:23

? Because you always

1:06:25

call out everything , you see . I'm

1:06:28

like oh , I mean , it's just who I am

1:06:30

. That's what puzzled

1:06:33

me for a second , I guess . I

1:06:35

believe that I'm always the one that has to call

1:06:37

out things that I see . So

1:06:41

is that a good belief or is that a bad belief

1:06:43

?

1:06:44

Well , it's good for you , it fucking sucks for most

1:06:46

people . Okay , I

1:06:49

mean , when it really comes down to it

1:06:51

, there's

1:06:56

eight billion people with an opinion

1:06:58

, but only one person is a fucking

1:07:00

stay . Yeah

1:07:04

, but that's not what we look . We look

1:07:06

for other people's self-esteem

1:07:09

. It's not self-esteem

1:07:11

, it's what other people think of me . Self-esteem

1:07:13

it's still the I am . It's

1:07:15

still looking for approval . It's

1:07:18

still looking for a place to

1:07:20

play out its I am . So

1:07:22

it doesn't have to be emotional because people

1:07:24

won't let you call them out anymore when

1:07:30

you think about it . What happens if you can't live your your

1:07:33

habit ? What happens ?

1:07:36

For like the first day or two you start kind of glitching . You're

1:07:39

like , but after like a few

1:07:41

days you just like well , can't

1:07:43

do that anymore , right .

1:07:45

But what I'm saying is that if

1:07:47

you can no longer call anyone out

1:07:49

or whatever you want to call it , it's

1:07:52

it's , oh , that one , okay , yeah , it's

1:07:54

like it's it's . What

1:07:58

part of your I am says

1:08:01

that that's the best

1:08:03

use of your relationship and friendship

1:08:05

with someone . How's

1:08:08

?

1:08:08

that really to to friendship

1:08:10

. I've

1:08:12

actually had that many friends . So

1:08:15

I said , to be honest , I haven't

1:08:17

had that many friends in my lifetime because

1:08:19

I was so outcasted Again

1:08:21

with the mindset I was , I was a monster , but

1:08:25

like generally speaking , though , for the few friends that

1:08:27

did stick around , it was good

1:08:29

, because they would always call me and be like

1:08:31

all right , I'm stuck with this , you're not directly

1:08:33

involved , what am I supposed to do

1:08:36

? That's bullshit . That's bullshit . This is

1:08:39

like stupid . Why the hell did you do that kind

1:08:41

of thing ? And they would . And they're like

1:08:43

every time . You're like the next day or two later . They're like

1:08:45

man . I feel like every time I call you

1:08:47

, you're like that . The voice I was already

1:08:49

hearing in my head just double reassuring it

1:08:51

for me . I

1:08:54

guess I took too much pride in that . It's

1:08:56

like good , like at least , at

1:08:58

least I got through to you .

1:09:00

Again , but if , if , if you don't know

1:09:02

who you were talking to , how did she get

1:09:04

through to them ? Were you talking to

1:09:06

a , a virtual mind , or were you talking

1:09:09

to a present moment , human being ?

1:09:12

You . It's usually the ones that I like

1:09:14

. Sorry , I'm going to let you go over that . No

1:09:16

, it's . Oh , what time is it , it's

1:09:18

444 .

1:09:20

Do you ?

1:09:20

have an urban .

1:09:21

No , no , you're a virtual human being . Let

1:09:24

me ask you something . Oh , okay , right

1:09:26

, think about that . Right . Out of

1:09:28

all the places that you could have looked , how

1:09:31

many options did you give you in that moment

1:09:33

? I'm

1:09:36

just that one , so it wasn't really an option

1:09:38

. We just I have it Right . So

1:09:41

do you have an option of not telling people what

1:09:43

time it is ? Yeah

1:09:48

, so do

1:09:51

people always ask you what time it is ? Yeah

1:09:55

, actually , well , one isn't that

1:09:58

your happen . So telling people , which is the thing of

1:10:00

them , because

1:10:06

it has nothing to do with what they want , because everything they do is

1:10:08

what you want , what you want , your , I am

1:10:10

told about as they're

1:10:14

just the people you're projecting the words

1:10:16

on to , so you can live it out . Remember

1:10:20

, you need an object , like a book

1:10:22

. So

1:10:27

I am

1:10:29

here for

1:10:31

an . I am to project their

1:10:33

beliefs on to . So

1:10:40

you see , someone , part

1:10:44

of what comes up like the word is

1:10:46

it's a little what I

1:10:48

think .

1:10:54

And I guess my new habit to

1:10:56

build is to not

1:10:58

necessarily say everything I see .

1:11:01

Well , hold on , okay . What

1:11:03

do you mean you see with your eyes , or

1:11:05

with your mind ? I

1:11:08

guess it would be the eyes . Ah , yeah

1:11:10

, so you probably won't have a lot to say then

1:11:12

, will you ? Yeah , wow

1:11:15

.

1:11:20

I was very proud of the skill , but

1:11:22

now I realize it was terrifying for others . I

1:11:26

could figure out a person within three questions

1:11:28

. All the crippling insecurities

1:11:30

.

1:11:32

Well , you thought you could , you were probably close because those are

1:11:34

habits , but it wasn't actually

1:11:36

true .

1:11:37

Right and that's where I'm starting , like that's

1:11:39

where I'm catching myself and stopping , because

1:11:42

it's like I it was pretty accurate

1:11:44

, Like 90% of the time I got it right

1:11:46

and

1:11:48

it was just one of those . So I believe like , oh

1:11:51

, I am able to

1:11:53

read people on a such deep level that

1:11:55

no one , that no one else can . But

1:11:58

now it's like .

1:11:59

here's a quick question . I was taught to

1:12:01

drive from the left side of the road . I don't

1:12:03

know , Was it the right side of the road ? How about you

1:12:06

?

1:12:06

America is on the right side and

1:12:09

left is in Europe .

1:12:10

So um , is it ? Are you

1:12:12

really that good , then ? I guess you know

1:12:14

which people drive on what side of the

1:12:16

street . Come on , you're

1:12:19

good at habitually looking for things

1:12:21

in people that were habitually

1:12:24

taught to do those things .

1:12:28

Oh .

1:12:33

Are you really that good ?

1:12:36

No , then I wouldn't be . Oh no , I

1:12:38

was just looking for an easy prey .

1:12:41

Well , you were just looking to live

1:12:43

out whatever that belief was , because

1:12:46

it was something that added of

1:12:48

some value to you , and

1:12:50

what a gift you thought you were bringing value to your

1:12:52

friends and value to the world

1:12:54

. It isn't true in

1:12:56

the world of reality , but

1:12:59

since most of the people that you're

1:13:02

with are

1:13:04

asleep , and on that as much

1:13:06

as you were riding , then , then

1:13:09

it makes sense to them

1:13:11

, because

1:13:14

I

1:13:17

don't know how much of your advice

1:13:19

to them would have been to go to the green

1:13:21

.

1:13:24

I'm thinking about it . It's the actual

1:13:27

reality of what they should be doing , right

1:13:29

, I guess what I was

1:13:31

doing is reassuring that they're that

1:13:35

your belief came true . Yeah

1:13:37

, I was reassuring . My belief came true , but

1:13:39

also , like for them , it's just

1:13:41

like the words

1:13:43

they said , echoing what I was already thinking

1:13:46

, kind of thing .

1:13:49

Or do you really hang out with people that much differently

1:13:52

?

1:13:55

Most of the people , most of the friends that stuck around were

1:13:57

pretty much like me , sometimes a little

1:13:59

bit meaner too .

1:14:01

Right . The

1:14:04

mind is always looking for people that challenge

1:14:06

itself . Mm-hmm , listen

1:14:09

, you are like me

1:14:11

and all of us , just

1:14:15

in no way Right . And

1:14:18

when , all of a sudden , we find some

1:14:20

answers , I mean , I've been

1:14:22

doing this for 17 years and it took 17

1:14:24

years to talk to people

1:14:26

from all over this world to find a piece

1:14:29

of the puzzle there and a piece

1:14:31

there , and then found it within

1:14:33

me and then find a piece within

1:14:35

you . And here

1:14:37

we are . The truth of who we are has been scattered

1:14:40

to the wind because we've been replaced

1:14:42

by an . It's like I am in the mind . It

1:14:45

has no abilities

1:14:47

, no function . You know , the

1:14:49

I am has no intention of

1:14:51

doing anything . You can only promise

1:14:53

. A promise is

1:14:55

the it's like for intention

1:14:57

. I

1:15:00

promised , but the doer

1:15:02

doesn't show up on a promise , does it ? That's

1:15:05

why they have to say but I promised , there's

1:15:08

no intention there , because

1:15:11

if they promise to do something , then it's just

1:15:13

, and they don't have

1:15:16

intention to do it , then it's a frank . It's just

1:15:18

a lie to get people to shut up .

1:15:20

Yeah , Notice

1:15:24

Okay yeah , I

1:15:26

noticed that , like especially Be

1:15:29

even before this day chatting with

1:15:31

you , I've noticed people

1:15:33

say , oh yeah , I'll get that , I promise , or

1:15:35

like , or afterwards .

1:15:36

They are man , I'm sorry , and

1:15:39

the thing it's not part of

1:15:41

their automatic I am , so they're not going to do it

1:15:43

.

1:15:45

Right . So

1:15:47

for a business situation when it's

1:15:49

a diverse amount of people , how do

1:15:51

you , how do

1:15:53

you set that up so it flows better ? This

1:15:55

isn't genius . Like if a

1:15:58

CEO can they

1:16:00

I don't think a full like Coca Cola would implement

1:16:02

this , but like if a company can build this from the ground

1:16:04

up . This would be a powerhouse

1:16:06

of a company . So

1:16:09

how ? How would you structure ? Like teach

1:16:11

let's say I'm the CEO and I called you for that how

1:16:14

would I structure it so my employees are

1:16:16

doing what's best for them at that ?

1:16:19

I think without . I'll

1:16:21

actually show you through a share Perfect

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. So

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the first thing that we're doing

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is

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where

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we've created a

1:16:43

system . But can you

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hear ?

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all on .

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, the

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product for a business is

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this . I'll show you exactly

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how we work with this . The

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key to onboarding anyone is

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asking who am I onboarding ? Because

1:18:19

the I am is habitual

1:18:22

. I don't want to onboard

1:18:24

the I am because

1:18:27

the only do what they're

1:18:29

normally used to do . I

1:18:32

don't want to onboard the emotional

1:18:35

I am because the

1:18:37

emotional I am that the doer is

1:18:40

either going to be I love this

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, this is amazing , yay , but

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then there's no intention to do anything with it , or

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it's they fuck you . This sucks . You guys

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took my money . I want my money back , right , so I

1:18:51

don't want that . So

1:18:54

if I'm going to onboard , the

1:18:56

very first part of this is

1:19:03

what I call the three

1:19:05

I do's do or swap . The

1:19:07

very first lesson

1:19:10

in my onboarding is

1:19:12

to teach them about the

1:19:14

habitual doer , the emotional

1:19:17

doer and the intentional doer

1:19:19

, and they will go through some

1:19:21

exercises of knowing the intentional

1:19:23

doer . Why ? Because if I don't have

1:19:25

the intentional doer , they're not going

1:19:27

to go any further . Next , they're going to

1:19:29

get a map of the program and

1:19:32

they're going to get the creed

1:19:34

. And this is where they picked their why

1:19:37

, why they want to be here , why

1:19:39

they want to make the change . So that's the onboarding

1:19:42

. When we go to the

1:19:44

pre-training

1:19:46

, the

1:19:52

pre-training is

1:19:57

here . In

1:20:02

the pre-training you're

1:20:04

going to understand the

1:20:07

I

1:20:09

do three . The

1:20:12

I do is the intentional , the

1:20:15

I do one is the habitual

1:20:18

and I do two is the

1:20:20

emotional . What

1:20:23

happened to the original ? You Remember

1:20:27

? The I am is belief-based

1:20:30

and

1:20:32

whatever is in the I am is

1:20:34

called O O U , one

1:20:37

of us . One of us

1:20:39

, and if it's not one of

1:20:41

us , it's others , and

1:20:44

we have been taught what about others compared

1:20:47

to one of us ? What

1:20:49

have we been taught ?

1:20:51

They're over there , they're bad

1:20:53

, they're over here , good .

1:20:56

So anyone

1:20:59

teaching you something that you don't believe

1:21:01

is automatically another

1:21:04

.

1:21:07

Is that why , like , because I listen to a lot of audiobooks

1:21:09

and that's how I got myself to where I'm at . Is

1:21:11

that why certain audiobooks , when I listen to it , I'm like

1:21:13

, hmm , I'll get through this

1:21:15

, but I don't fully agree with it ?

1:21:17

Yeah , because we're exactly because

1:21:20

we've been taught to live by opinion , not

1:21:22

by facts and functions and elements

1:21:24

and abilities . Remember

1:21:26

, the I am is in its light , while

1:21:29

it has an opinion , it can't actually

1:21:31

do anything . So the I am

1:21:33

believes the opinion

1:21:36

is the doing .

1:21:46

How many paradigms have you already gotten Just chatting

1:21:48

with you ? Thank you , that's

1:21:51

. Yeah , that's a good point . That's

1:21:54

we were never not intentional .

1:21:57

Right , it's not intentional , and

1:22:01

that's the key . When I'm talking to someone

1:22:03

, I have to ask who's

1:22:06

talking . What am I currently

1:22:08

under the influence of ? Because if I'm under the influence

1:22:10

of something , I'm going to be recruiting them

1:22:12

to match that . If

1:22:16

I'm not under the influence of a

1:22:19

half to or a habit or of emotional

1:22:21

reaction and I'm present now

1:22:24

I can be adaptive with you . Because

1:22:27

I'm adaptive , I'm not in the red

1:22:29

box . I can be intentional

1:22:31

with you , not the virtual or emotional . I

1:22:34

don't have to make a promise . I'll actually

1:22:36

will do it .

1:22:38

Right .

1:22:39

And so whenever you're , whatever

1:22:42

it is again , we were taught

1:22:44

to self analyze one . You

1:22:46

don't look for the monster under the bed . There's no fucking

1:22:48

monster . So I look right . We

1:22:52

have to ask why anymore we just go straight to

1:22:54

intention . Well , why did

1:22:56

I do this ? I don't know what . Would you rather

1:22:58

do this ? Well then , just intentionally , just go do that

1:23:00

.

1:23:04

Oh , what if the ego fights back , though ? How

1:23:06

do you ? How do you get the ego ? What's there to fight

1:23:09

back ?

1:23:11

Is it maybe the oh no no

1:23:13

, no , no no no , no , no , no , no , no Okay

1:23:15

come on . Sit there intentionally and

1:23:18

you try to tell yourself presently

1:23:21

that your

1:23:23

habit can get you to do anything

1:23:25

you don't choose to or can't stop

1:23:27

.

1:23:31

And yeah .

1:23:35

So what in anything can you

1:23:37

not intentionally stop ? Should

1:23:40

you start acting out where you're talking that we're feeling about

1:23:42

? What is it in your mind

1:23:44

that you could not intentionally

1:23:47

stop ?

1:23:49

Maybe then it's the mind doesn't fully believe

1:23:51

it can change how can the mind believe

1:23:54

it's based on beliefs .

1:23:55

What do you think of beliefs ? Going to believe the

1:23:57

sense of believe in dogs ? Come

1:24:00

on , this is . This is where , right

1:24:02

, this is the insanity . Right , this

1:24:05

is . It's a belief , but I'm not seeing it as a belief

1:24:07

. Every question

1:24:09

you're asking is

1:24:11

somehow show me that my beliefs are actually

1:24:14

there in real . Remember

1:24:18

, everything in the mind is virtual

1:24:20

. You actually have to act it

1:24:22

out for it to be trying to be real , and

1:24:25

so the only reason why stuff seems real

1:24:27

to you is you're acting

1:24:29

it out first . Remember

1:24:36

, you see the overlay

1:24:40

before reality .

1:24:44

So it's the filters , essentially

1:24:46

like how our

1:24:48

minds have built , like the

1:24:50

stereotypical , the rosy shade color

1:24:52

sunglasses like we

1:24:55

, we it's not a literal sun class

1:24:57

, but there's , there's a filter and we

1:25:00

only perceive it a certain way .

1:25:02

So when you see this is a curriculum

1:25:05

, one of the benefits of understanding

1:25:07

the curriculum is understanding

1:25:10

Frank and

1:25:12

this is yeah , so

1:25:14

it should . What

1:25:16

if , in reality , it

1:25:20

goes in the eyes and

1:25:25

that , as a

1:25:27

present moment , human being what

1:25:31

is , can

1:25:33

see what is as

1:25:36

what is ? So if you look on the screen , what

1:25:38

is is coming through the eyes

1:25:40

, it goes through the brain

1:25:42

and we see

1:25:45

it as

1:25:48

it is . What is

1:25:50

it ? It's that , and

1:25:52

the same thing

1:25:54

is coming through the eyes and

1:25:57

it's going through our subconscious that I

1:25:59

call Frank , and

1:26:01

now Frank is putting up here it's

1:26:05

habits and it's emotions about

1:26:07

what came in . So

1:26:11

every moment of every moment we

1:26:14

have , this is what is and

1:26:16

we're like and our subconscious

1:26:18

is like that guy in

1:26:21

the alley Pull it

1:26:23

open , it's when you buy

1:26:25

a thought like a yeah , you want to

1:26:27

buy a thought , right . You want an emotional

1:26:29

reaction and it's just that way

1:26:32

all the time . What

1:26:34

is ? And the thoughts

1:26:36

came that I've been talking about it and

1:26:39

it's happening all the time

1:26:41

. All the time it's

1:26:44

like having the TV

1:26:46

on what is . But

1:26:49

what's on the TV is a program

1:26:51

made 20 years ago , and

1:26:53

we have to understand the difference between what

1:26:55

is and what's presenting

1:26:58

itself as what is , because

1:27:00

that memory might be remembered

1:27:02

now , but it does not reflect

1:27:04

what is reality . And

1:27:11

so if I blame that memory

1:27:13

, not only does it

1:27:15

not have function to solve the

1:27:17

memory , but it doesn't have function to do anything

1:27:20

against us . Remember

1:27:23

, it's just the milk in the cup , right

1:27:28

. And so what happens is that

1:27:30

after a while , we start treating

1:27:32

the

1:27:36

overlay as

1:27:38

reality , because we're stuck in the

1:27:40

one view illusion . Remember what is

1:27:42

what we're making of it ? Both

1:27:44

eyes are blended in . So we

1:27:46

literally believe . I

1:27:49

think it must be true , I feel it , it's

1:27:51

proof that must be true . And

1:27:54

then what happens ? Pretty

1:28:06

soon the overlay

1:28:08

becomes our

1:28:11

primary reality and

1:28:14

we argue that actual reality

1:28:16

is a lie . You

1:28:21

go tell somebody with addiction that

1:28:23

it's not a disease . You go tell

1:28:26

someone who spent 40 years

1:28:28

having panic attacks and depression

1:28:30

. So

1:28:32

I'll

1:28:37

tell them that it's not

1:28:39

real . The punch it

1:28:41

, because it is real

1:28:44

in the illusion

1:28:46

but it's not real

1:28:48

in real 100%

1:28:53

.

1:28:59

Don't know if you can hear me or not , but you're lagging really

1:29:02

hard , janiji

1:29:09

.

1:29:13

The last hour or so and

1:29:15

look at just those three things

1:29:17

, how much it's made a difference in your life . Now

1:29:20

you get into something that's an actual

1:29:23

structured teaching , like what I have

1:29:25

, and it's through the whole program and

1:29:28

this is why I do what I do . I

1:29:31

don't go on vacation . I get up every

1:29:33

morning at around five or six and I'm in my

1:29:35

chair till 10 , 11 , 12 that

1:29:38

night and my team and I put in

1:29:40

16 , 18 hour days to get this out

1:29:42

to the world , because I truly believe

1:29:44

that we solved the problem .

1:29:48

You really have , honestly , like all

1:29:52

the motivational books and self-help books

1:29:54

and whatever books , they

1:29:57

hint at this idea but they never go into

1:29:59

it and

1:30:01

I think , yeah , you put in such simple

1:30:03

way and an

1:30:06

average Joe that's just mindlessly

1:30:08

consuming can even be like wait a minute . He

1:30:11

said something like me , like I said I had like four

1:30:13

, five paradigms just already

1:30:15

.

1:30:17

Well , that's why Tracy

1:30:19

and the team is

1:30:22

trying to get me on podcasts and unfortunately

1:30:24

there's just a lot of podcasts

1:30:26

out there that are just

1:30:29

that they're full of

1:30:31

podcasts is about

1:30:34

trying to bring

1:30:36

help and health to people

1:30:38

, and it's amazing

1:30:40

. The products that are

1:30:42

being sold out there the machines , that this

1:30:45

and that and this , and all I can

1:30:47

say is therapy and the meds

1:30:49

and all the crap kept me alive long

1:30:52

enough that I could forgive this out for myself , and

1:30:55

so the yoga and the therapy and the machines

1:30:58

and all of that it's there to

1:31:00

keep people alive until I can finally

1:31:02

see what's actually going to help them 100%

1:31:05

, 100% .

1:31:08

Well , it's been an absolute honor and a pleasure

1:31:10

, is I truly

1:31:13

I mean this like I will be calling

1:31:15

you in the future to come back on , just to be also

1:31:17

like all , right now I'm here , what do

1:31:20

we ?

1:31:20

do Good , good , good . So

1:31:24

like pre interview , interview kind of thing

1:31:26

, or what are we doing here ?

1:31:29

That was . I just consider that the interview

1:31:31

.

1:31:32

Good , I hope so . What did you record

1:31:34

it ? Yeah , oh , thank

1:31:37

God . Yeah , because this is how I like just

1:31:39

talking , just kicking back and having

1:31:41

a conversation . Oh , good for

1:31:43

you , man . Yeah , that's the best way to have a conversation

1:31:46

, dude .

1:31:47

Honestly , that's kind of my motto is like how I

1:31:49

explain it to people on the show here I'll turn it off , so

1:31:51

we'll actually make a whatever .

1:31:53

Whatever , I'll turn it off .

1:31:57

Whatever you need , right , so tell

1:31:59

everyone where they can get you out .

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1:32:19

you learn this a little bit more and being

1:32:21

able to live the life you were meant to have , not

1:32:24

the one your mind was the only thing thought

1:32:26

to give you .

1:32:28

Thank you so much , denise . This has been an

1:32:30

absolute honor and a pleasure . Truly , I'm going

1:32:32

to be having like the best dreams

1:32:34

in my life , trying to figure out okay , what do we do now ?

1:32:38

Yes , Well , I'd like to

1:32:40

maybe at some point

1:32:42

edit

1:32:46

this off , I'm hoping , but at some point we'd love

1:32:48

to set up a regular

1:32:51

, once a month little one or two minute series

1:32:53

that can come in . I'd love to have you on mine . I'd

1:32:55

love to hear what it's like for another podcaster

1:32:58

to have all these people come on and

1:33:00

offering tools to

1:33:02

help people . I'd love to have another podcaster

1:33:04

come on about that . And so I'm

1:33:06

all about just really trying to work together

1:33:08

and helping people , and you , sir , are

1:33:11

just a gift , just

1:33:14

a gift trying to do what you do , and I really honor

1:33:16

you , man . I really do . Thank

1:33:18

you so much .

1:33:19

Yeah , and another thing .