After paddling through the rest of the eastern Columbia River Gorge which brought with it a heat wave of 110 degrees or 43 degrees celsius for more than a week. I managed to finally reach the mouth of the Snake River and begin my ascent to Lewiston, Idaho. Which is the end of my upstream canoe journey by river before transitioning to a bicycle portage over the rockies. 

The following is a conversation with John Macbeth who lives rurally outside of Pasco, Washington.  The Snake River is quite remote in comparison to the Columbia and after almost getting bit by a rattlesnake while portaging my canoe on a 5 mile rustic dirt road around the first of four dams. I met John and his family at a boat landing on the upper side of this dam and was invited to stay on their farm for a couple nights.

A former professional bull rider, country music singer-songwriter, and full time farmer. John is a captivating storyteller and a man of many adventures, travels, and talents. We had such a great conversation sharing stories, songs, jokes, and life perspectives that this is by far the longest podcast I have done so far. I hope you enjoy and see you up the river road.