Married for over 50 years, Pat and Ruth Clifford are a delight. Their mutual respect, love, and fun-loving ways come through in this conversation. Years ago, Pat was diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes. Yet it was what his doctor said to him after the diagnosis that changed the course of Pat's life and health. He said, "You're diabetic, but you don't have to be." He inspired Pat to remove all animal products from his diet and incorporate plentiful whole foods onto his plate. Pat and Ruth took on the challenge, and as a result, Pat has never had to take insulin, nor is he on any diabetes medication.

Resources mentioned on this episode:

"Eat to Live," by Dr. Joel Fuhrman: https://www.amazon.com/Eat-Live-Amazing-Nutrient-Rich-Sustained/dp/031612091X

"The McDougall Quick and Easy Cookbook: Over 300 Delicious Low-Fat Recipes You Can Prepare in Fifteen Minutes or Less," by Dr. John A. McDougall: https://www.amazon.com/McDougall-Quick-Easy-Cookbook-Delicious/dp/0452276969/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=quick+and+easy+cookbook+mcdougall&qid=1621368104&s=books&sr=1-3

"How Not to Die: Discover the Foods Scientifically Proven to Prevent and Reverse Disease" by Dr. Michael Greger: https://www.amazon.com/How-Not-Die-Discover-Scientifically/dp/1250066115/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=how+not+to+die&qid=1621368219&s=books&sr=1-1

"How Not to Die Cookbook: 100+ Recipes to Prevent and Reverse Disease" by Dr. Michael Greger: https://www.amazon.com/How-Not-Die-Cookbook-Recipes/dp/1250127769/ref=pd_bxgy_img_2/143-3812159-5312909?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1250127769&pd_rd_r=a82278df-2ca5-413d-ade2-9bfcdc21198c&pd_rd_w=SscQd&pd_rd_wg=8I2YJ&pf_rd_p=fd3ebcd0-c1a2-44cf-aba2-bbf4810b3732&pf_rd_r=VKM7Z4TVG6CMTKDFPVMC&psc=1&refRID=VKM7Z4TVG6CMTKDFPVMC

"The China Study: Revised and Expanded Edition: The Most Comprehensive Study of Nutrition Ever Conducted and the Startling Implications for Diet, Weight Loss, and Long-Term Health," by Dr. T. Colin Campbell:  https://www.amazon.com/China-Study-Comprehensive-Nutrition-Implications/dp/1941631568/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=china+study&qid=1621368339&s=books&sr=1-1

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